What's the most dated Simpsons joke?

>>88198141
A joke being "dated" doesn't mean it literally has a date. That episode and the cap you have from it are still hilarious even with the specific date.

A dated joke is one that is so rooted in its time that it can't be funny anymore. Like a really topical Judge Ito joke during the OJ trial, or making fun of some specific political thing that has long since been forgotten.

>>88198500

Uhh.... Those are early 90's Baseball players. People that were only famous briefly in the 90's. It's the definition of dated.

Which doesn't mean the episode isn't great, it is, but everything in the episode screams "Made in the 90's!"

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> long dead in North America
> wikipedia says this brand is still being sold in the UK and Australia

>>88198856
I have literally never watched a game of baseball and still enjoyed the jokes in that episode without knowing how they relate to the personal qualities of those specific players.

>>88199259

And...? You should laugh, it's a great episode. But it's a 90's episode with very specific 90's reference that could only be made in the 90's. It's the definition of "Dated."

>>88198856
>doesn't watch baseball

End yourself

>>88199047

I remember when this was a new episode.

>>88198856
A guy saves a baby from a fire, then a cat, then a piano, and eventually all of the furniture

Yeah that'd only be funny if it were ....... that guy


That's not dated

>>88198922
can confirm. sometime the ads still play

>>88199529
Pogs will never be outdated.

>>88199529

Pogs are so memic in their datedness that everyone will remember what they are, even a thousand years in the future long after the last pog has rolled off the press.

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>>88199621


Jose Canseico, the 90's baseball player saving random items in a fire makes it dated. You couldn't make a Jose Canseico joke in the 70's, and few people would know who he was in the 10's. Granted Jose Canseico had a long career so that section isn't as dated as other sections in that episode, but the entire episode is dated.

Seriously, am I being trolled here? For some reason you're confusing the term "Dated" with "quality". Dated has nothing to do with quality, there are some dated jokes that are extremely funny.

>>88199529
Wasn't the joke that pogs were just as outdated as Alf by the time that episode was made?

>>88200117
Is it only funny cause it was Canseico. I thought it was just an amusing extension of the saving babies trope. Is there some Canseico relation that i dont get making it funnier?

>>88200117
I am only just learning that the personalities of the baseballers related to the jokes at all.

Still thought it was funny before

>>88200222
Yes.

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>>88200117
>>88199455
The point is the jokes aren't dated even if the references were. If a joke is still accessible to this day then it's not dated. Dated would be if the actual punchline relied on a reference that only people from that time period would understand.

By your train of thought any piece of historical fiction would be "dated"

>>88200222
No it's literally the opposite, Canseico made them put that part in because he wanted to appear heroic or some shit. They scrapped whatever joke they specifically had planned for him.

>>88200117
If you can insert any person into the joke and it's still funny it can't be dated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlRV6yxZUSQ

I'm going to go with everyone thinking homer was gay or crazy for wearing a pink shirt to work.

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>>88200330

YES! Stuff relating to a certain DATE is DATED! By Jove you're getting it! Quality has nothing to do with whether something is Dated (Home at Bat is regularly rated as one of the top 5 Simpson episodes). That Baseball episode could only be made in the 90's.

>>88200390

You have it opposite. If a generic person does the joke then it's not dated. If random person that was only famous for a certain while is inserted into the joke to make it timely then that joke will become dated. A stupid president joke is timeless. A stupid Dubya joke or a stupid Clinton joke is dated, especially if it's the same joke with the president replaced.

>>88200680
i think youre being dumb

>>88200680
You are so dense. dated =/= old.

Your example is full of dated jokes because the punchlines of those jokes is puns based on things that were relevant for a short while. None of the punchlines in that Simpsons episode are actually related to the time period. Someone watching the episode could assume all the players are made up names and it would still work.

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>>88200854

LOL, I do think I'm being trolled.

Do you agree that Two Bad Neighbors is dated? It's specifically stars former president George H. W. Bush. It could only be made in the 90's. George H.W. Bush hasn't been relevant in decades. Yet the majority of jokes aren't about George H.W. Bush but about him taking the roll of an elderly Mr. Wilson to Bart's Dennis the Mennace. It's a good episode but the episode is very dated.

>>88198141
Not so much a joke, but the idea that being 300lbs was considered disabling less than 20 years ago is pretty baffling to me.

>>88200680
a stupid Nixon joke is not dated, because the concept of a dumb politician is easily grasped and people readily understand the humor. The specific person doesn't matter in the context of the joke.

however, a Watergate joke can be dated, because it is a reference to a specific event, and not knowing Nixon's history with paranoia and wiretapping legitimately makes the joke less relatable

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>>88201478
Here's a better question: did you think the Gerald Ford joke at the end of the of the episode was dated when it came out? Since Ford hadn't been president in over a decade? No? Then guess what, moron, neither is the baseball episode.

>>88198389
Did the Super Nintendo suddenly stop existing?

>>88198922
>Americans missing out on chicken tonight
I feel bad for you

>>88198856
I hate baseball and all of the players played before I was born.
>Best Simpsons episode ever

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Don't Blame me, I voted for Kodos is a very dated episode.


>>88201553

I don't know, Let's check with this anon over here:>>88200330
>Dated would be if the actual punchline relied on a reference that only people from that time period would understand.

The point of the joke was that Ford was as clumsy as Homer. I didn't get that joke because I wasn't around in the 70', but Ford was infamous for falling. This anon says it's dated.

>>88200161
>BUT HE'S BACK
>IN POG FORM

>>88201553
Well he's dead now so yeah.

>>88201747
>makes a comparison to a current fucking event
>durrhurr joking that the two party system is a scam is dated

It probably involves some cameo by a celebrity who was only popular for a short time in the 90s

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>>88201864

Ahh, yes, a cameo with Michael Jackson back when he first became white.

>>88201750
I said "when it came out" but I accept your answer

>>88201747
>The point of the joke was that Ford was as clumsy as Homer

He played COLLEGE BALL you know. I think the point of the joke was more that he was dumb than he was clumsy. Maybe people just aren't as brushed up on US presidents as I thought.

>>88198141
The entire franchise.

>>88199047
What's the joke?

A dated joke would be Madonna's "im british" line because only people who payed attention to madonna at the time would have gotten it.
Pro baseball players joining a local company baseball team is hilarious regardless of date, because they were pro baseball players.
Op thinks something being out of date is the same as dated.
Dated is more like being past its expiration date

>>88201992
I believe it was to show how fancy/pretentious the place was
Now all schools have websites.

>>88199529
I was a kid, 10 to 12, when pogs first hit and became popular and I still have no idea what they even are or what you do with them. With trading cards I can understand, especially there's a game to go with them. But I don't remember anyone doing anything with pogs beyond keeping them in a plastic tube.

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>>88201938

After Ford slipped while getting off of an airplane he was sort of known for being clumsy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlz0he9rtKw

Watch Saturday Night Live, Chevy Chase always portrayed Ford as falling and tripping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk8R4PoR9II

Sort of like how they portray Trump as an avid tweeter or Dubya as being slow.

Bart mentioning Kool Moe Dee in I Married Marge. Bet you he wouldn't know that name now.

>>88202080

There was a game you could play with them. Though, truthfully I don't think anyone actually played pogs, just collected them.

>>88201609
the super what?

>>88202080
Coca-Cola did a pog promotion once, exchange bottlecaps for pogs. You stacked the pogs up and threw a plastic disk called a slammer at them. Any pogs that flipped over belonged to the kid who flipped them.

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>>88199529
>tfw you will never have a alf pog of him playing a guitar or shaving

>>88198797
this 2bh

>>88202055
Far as I can remember every school in my area had their website on the sign outside just like that.

>>88199047
>>88201992
>>88202055
>>88202331
This might be the most dated. It wasn't a very good joke to begin with, and has to be explained in order to get any sense of why it may have been funny.

>>88202441
yep, that's dated

>>88201638
That shit looks gross, Ragu marinara sauce makes me want to vomit

>>88202441
Its not even clear its meant to be a joke now

>>88198797
obviously he means Mapple computers and founder Steve Mobs

>>88198856

>Ozzie Smith
>Ken Griffey Jr
>Wade Boggs
>Jose Canseco
>Famous briefly in the 90's

Every guy in that picture is a hall of famer with the possible exceptions of Steve Sax and Canseco.

>>88202742
>with the possible exceptions of Steve Sax and his run in with the law.

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>>88200680

The whole issue of this thread is that OP doesn't understand what "dated" means. He is assigning his own meaning to a word that has an established meaning.

Ignore him and just talk about good Simpsons references.

>SO DATED

>>88201992
I always interpreted it as being a confusing url since it ends in "net.edu"

>>88199529
Here in Latin america Pogs or Tazos are still popular. Alf... not so much.

>>88202886

>Good work boys, looks like we can close the case on every unsolved crime in New York City.

>>88203136
>You've been watching too many movies, Sax!

>>88203164

>But officers, there are hundreds of unsolved murders in New York City every year!
>You just don't know when to shut up, do ya, Saxy boy?

>>88202138
>Chevy Chase always portrayed Ford as falling and tripping
http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/ford-on-the-phone/n8613

Hah, that was funny as hell

>>88202145
I don't, but I figured it would be the same as naming your dog M.C Hammer or Ultimate Warrior

>>88200362
Yeah, the original gag involved him missing the game due to having a hell of a night with Mrs. Krabappel

>>88204564
>>88200362
They took the original gag of him sleeping with Mrs. K out because his wife complained about it.

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>>88198141
The ending to Mr. Lisa Goes to Washington.

>>88205063
who's the African?

>>88200680
>>88200854
You seem to be confusing the colloquial use of the term "dated joke" with the formal definition of the word dated.

>>88201529
>however, a Watergate joke can be dated, because it is a reference to a specific event, and not knowing Nixon's history with paranoia and wiretapping legitimately makes the joke less relatable

Watergate and Nixon's paranoia are too widely known to ever really be dated. I'd say tha'd be more of a historical reference.

Like the gag where Grandpa Simpson hears JFK say "Ich bin ein Berliner" and thinks he's a Nazi would also be a historical reference, not a dated one.

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>>88203040
>The whole issue of this thread is that OP doesn't understand what "dated" means. He is assigning his own meaning to a word that has an established meaning.

I was just making a joke by posting a screenshot with a literal date in it. I hadn't even replied until now.

>>88198856

The Simpsons could have invented totally fictional baseball players instead of actual ones for their episode, and it would have been just as funny because it's not like any of the jokes depended on intimate knowledge of their personal history.

>>88205939
Just some diplomat.

>>88198141
During Krusty gets Kancelled a bunch of celebrities guest star as themselves to help Krusty with the comeback special, all of them are dead or irrelevant now so pretty much all of the jokes involving them fall flat.

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I didn't even know cable used to have a separate awards show.

>>88198922
We still see this in New Zealand

Anyone MTV related

>>88198141
yeah, you... really dont know what "dated" means, do you?

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I have always wondered if those were real players.

>>88199529
PogChamp

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>>88199529
>>88210102

Sci-fi TV and film references will never age because nerds. Which the Simpsons staff was full of back then.

That article the WSJ did looking back at "the Springfield Files" last week was amusing. At least for the fact that Al Jean got a call after the episode from Paul Fusco (The voice of Alf) saying "If you're gonna do Alf again, call me and let me do the voice".

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>>88199520
>Watching baseball or any other derivative of cricket

>>88209866

Here you go, boss. They were all real.

http://www.hardballtimes.com/the-burns-smithers-question/

>>88209846
Oh come the fuck on.

>>88202138
>stairs are slippery because it's raining
>man falls because of it
>liberals mock him relentlessly and ruin his reputation because of it

Typical.

>>88209846
This still remains one of my favorite bits.

>there are dipshits here that don't understand the difference between "dated" and "old"
An episode with certain guest actors like Homer at the Bat isn't dated, you dumb fucks. "Dated" comes from the -concept- of the -joke- being a product of the times, not the content.

A joke that has a character in its set-up, like George HW Bush, isn't dated unless the joke itself is dated by topical content. If for example the joke were that George HW Bush joins N'Sync or another boy band with the expectation that the audience would view this as a move that hip young people would like, that would be dated. If the joke were that George HW Bush moves in across from Homer and they hate each other, it's not dated because the concept is centered on a conflict between characters.

Test it:

Put (Dracula/Harry Houdini/Julius Caesar) in a boy band. Wow, that's dated.

Have (Dracula/Harry Houdini/Julius Caesar) move in across from Homer and become his enemy. Wow, that's not dated.

I would say that 9/10 of the people here are fucking morons for not getting this.

>>88211762
I think the joke is the joke about Krusty accidentally using an extremely dated episode to cover him not going live is dated.
Though it helps that Krusty is somehow an immortal clown who's had a tv show since practically the invention of television.
>>88212185
Wouldn't Homer at Bat be dated since they were expressly chosen because they were all the hottest Pro Players at the time?

>>88209846
Context?

>>88212266
>Wouldn't Homer at Bat be dated since they were expressly chosen because they were all the hottest Pro Players at the time?
No. Again, it comes down to concept. Drafting ringers for a softball game isn't a dated concept. Who the players are is irrelevant, because you could remake the episode every year with a new roster and intrinsically it would still work.

>>88198797
Apple is a phone company to most people.

>>88212383
I believe they're showing a rerun

>>88212185
>>there are dipshits here that don't understand the difference between "dated" and "old"
If you know nothing about cultural history, there is none.

>>88212383
Krusty comes to see Bart for some reason.
Bart asks doesn't he have a live show to do?
Krusty says they'll just throw on a rerun and nobody will notice the difference.
They turn on the show and on the show Krusty gets breaking news and announces to the audience that war had broken out between Argentina and Britain over the Falklands Islands. The conflict only lasted 2 months or so and at that point in time was about a decade ago.

>>88212518
Oh. That's pretty funny then.

>>88207075
This desu

I only found out this thread that they're real people

>>88201747
>implying Citizen Kang isn't one of the most perpetually relevant pieces of social satire to ever be televised

>>88212185
I think it's just the OP who doesn't quite get the meaning.

>>88212410
you (and everyone else) are forgetting that baseball itself is irrelevant now

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>>88198856
See, the entite episode gives context for who they are which makes the joke work.

Here's an example. The old Looney Tunes Hollywood shorts. Sure, kids may not know Clark Gables, but the joke of pursuing a woman that he's unaware is just Groucho Marx in drag all night is funny regardless.

A dated joke from that example is the horse that keeps nudging Bing Crosby while he's on stage, poking fun at Bing's notorious gambling addiction. The joke doesn't have a setup that provides the context, so nobody from the current generation would get it. That makes it a dated joke.

>>88209846
But the point of the joke is that its dated. Like Mr. Burns being old jokes.

>>88198141

>Is Lisa cool now?
>She looks like Blossom

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>Marge, is Lisa at Camp Granada?

Probably more for the answering machine than Allan Sherman

A lot of the celebrity episodes when some of them became literal whos as the years has gone by for them.

>>88213997
That episode centered entirely around Lady Gaga is going to be weird in about 20-30 years

You guys have it easy

As an europoor, I have 10 times much harder to "get" jokes, since most of them are america-centered. Especially the ones that are old as fuck.

It's one of the reason why I'm scared to watch shit like old simpsons and then realize I'm missed 90% of the jokes.

>>88198141
Lol, I was born that year

>>88215664
most old simpsons doesn't have much of that anyway, those sorts of jokes are the least funny ones anyway

Why are cartoon fans so obsessed with stuff being dated? Everything will be dated, no matter how hard they try to be timeless.
It's bad when something like PPG 2016 tries to be insultingly pandering and hip like grand Dad rapping but stuff that was just made because it was THE CURRENT YEAR at the time like South Park does, it's like a fun time capsule and what only matters if it was funny. Everyone needs to stop being so hung up on being timelessness

>>88215455
Its weird now. Gaga has dropped from biggest popstar in the charts to another pop star in the charts

>>88215969
>It's bad when something like PPG 2016 tries to be insultingly pandering and hip like grand Dad rapping

What?

>>88215455
i figure she isn't even popular now
when someone isn't in the news 24/7 like people are these days, they become forgotten to me.

i also don't give two fucks and that episode sucked balls because it was BORING.

>>88213618
>2016 World Series had the highest TV ratings since 1991

>>88211745
>>88209866
They were and that's probably the quintessential John Swartzwelder gag. One writer said "I always though John was born in the wrong century. He seems like he should have been some Irish city cop in the 1880s with a handlebar mustache."

>>88213947
My parents' answering machine _in_ 1996 didn't look that ancient. That shit looks like the 80s.

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>>88198141

I think a lot of Mirkin episodes have aged kinda bad because he overdid it with social/political commentary.

Nothing will ever, EVER be more dated than the Futurama episode with Lucy Lu.

>>88200680
You're a special kind of stupid, aren't you?

>>88206911
Remember when the Simpsons actually did technology jokes that were satirical instead of "LOL look at Bart using an iPad so kewl XD".

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>>88199529
ALF and pogs were the shit.

The entirety of Homerpalooza.

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>>88202158
They where pretty popular in Spain, I played with them.

>>88216726
that was because the Cubs being the world series was a once-in-a-lifetime event
like literally it's been a whole lifetime since that last happened

>>88217080
I don't know, Lucy Lu still looks pretty good and people still pirate music and movies, it's just her being famous and the specific reference to Napster that are dated.

>>88201930
>He's 300 pounds
>He's white
That is right. Michael Jackson is not white.
What i thought when i first saw it.

>>88212518
Krusty came because Bart was living with Mr Burns at the time and he offered him anything he wanted for supper and Bart wanted a pizza delivered by Krusty.

>>88198141
This was and still is one of my favourite episodes, and I never knew anything about baseball aside from how to generally play it (we play Rounders in British schools, which is similar but more shit).

>>88212518
Most people should know about the falklands conflict, its the most recent conflict that isnt western forces shooting backwards savages. just because america has a shit education system doesnt mean a joke is dated