Judge Dredd

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>Should I just read the Case Files chronologically?
Yes. There are also a lot of fun Dredd crossovers worth checking out as well.
>Are either of the movie adaptations worth watching?
Watch the recent Karl Urban film, Dredd. It's incredible. But, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT watch the Stalone film, it's not Dredd at all.

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>>88195775
> But, DO NOT, I repeat, DO NOT watch the Stalone film, it's not Dredd at all

I knew you'd say that

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>>88195695
You can start with the cases files if you don't mind the early stories or you can give a shot to days of chaos if you prefer recent stuff.
Also you can start reading the recent Dredd as soon as a new storie start. Si
Everythings is canon since the first issue making it really easy to jump right in.

>>88196241
>Everythings is canon since the first issue
Does that mean everything AFTER the first issue?

I remember that line about Judges being "elected by the people" in that first strip.

Bumping this thread for the possibility that Judge Anon may see it. He usually storytimes.

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>>88195695
>Should I just read the Case Files chronologically?
Yes. If you're at all willing, a chronological Dredd read is a great insight to how a character can develop over time. CF1 are mostly wacky standalones that introduce some great ideas and CF2 has two longer epics that are often cited amongst Dredd's best. CF3 are more standalones introducing some major characters and then I believe CF4 onwards start moving towards refiniation.

What might be an unpopular suggestion is to not limit yourself to checking out some modern Dredd while you're reading. Dredd is very accessible and it can be super cool to read some newer things while looking at the older.

Have fun!

>read case files so quick because theres literally 40 years of comics that i can never actually remember most stories

How help bad memory?

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>>88196321
Yeah, there's been a lot of small retcons since the early issues.
>judges were democratically elected
>MC1 was NY
>Judges were elites working alongside police
etc.
>>88195695
Just read case files chronologically, yes. Some say CF05 is best entry point, and not without merit, it contains several setup issues with future crime, the first Dark Judges story (though Death appeared once before) and ends with Block Mania and Apocalypse War mega epics.
Also, America is a good starting point, since it shows common folk's view on judges, but it's not one-sided.

>>88197208
Don't binge, try and imagine sitting down each week being that clever 8+ year old you once were excited about these thrills this week.

Otherwise they can be difficult to remember, but I think it helps you appreciate the 5 page short art

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>>88197225
Get over yourself. Loads of us are happy to talk about characters we like and help other people get into it.

>pic related
Ask me about any of these and I'll share.

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>>88196036
It's funny how Stallone movie kept the comic aesthetics but the one thing they changed were the helmets, while Urban movie changed the aesthetics entirely but kept comic helmets.

>>88196036
>>88197371
I did try watching the Stallone movie and really enjoyed the tone and aesthetic but I lost interest the moment he takes his helmet off.

Not muh Dredd.

>>88197251
I have a poster of that exact image above my bed. He protects me from dirt-bags while I sleep.

>>88195775

>Stallone movie
>Bad

One of my favorite Dredd memes. Its not even bad. It has a fucking ABC Warrior. The Angel gang are great. It invented the flying lawmaster. "LAAAAAAAAAAAAW". Its all great. Even Rob Schenider is tolerabal.

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>>88197431
>I lost interest the moment he takes his helmet off.

You should at least keep watching for the Angel Gang

Also
LAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWW?!?!!?

>>88197503
Maybe I'll give it another go. I also learnt about rotoscoping so I could put a CGI helmet over his head and make my own cut.

It would mean there'd be a scene where he takes his helmet off and there'd be another helmet underneath.

>>88197563
Only /a/ cares about spoonfeeding. Please go back there

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>>88197563
This is you.

>>88197573
>It would mean there'd be a scene where he takes his helmet off and there'd be another helmet underneath.

Honestly I would love that

>>88197473
It's not bad as a Stallone action movie, but it's a terrible Dredd adaptation.

>>88198112
Other than "muh helmet" how is it a bad Dredd movie?

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>>88198595
Too much emphasis is placed on Dredd as a character. Dredd is an all-around action hero instead of being lawful neutral. Dredd is a personification of the system, a faceless lawman, not the hero in shining armor.
The whole shitty world atmosphere is lacking, too. There's mega-city, there's cursed earth, but it just doesn't feel that dark or shitty as it should.
And muh helmet too.

>>88199274
There are many stories that Dredd is a straight up action hero. The genre/tone of Dredd can change weekly as you likely know.

Also its funny that you cite lacking world too considering its 1000% more in depth with lots of locations compared to Dredd which i assume you probably liked which was entirely contained in one mega structure.

The movies are both worth watching for fun, but the 2012 is far superior in terms of actually being Dredd.

If the script of the 95 film was closer to Dredd then it would be better.

>>88197364
Which is bottom middle?

>>88200557
Kid Loki.
Journey Into Mystery 622-645

>>88197106
I think it's a good idea to just follow the chart here, read the recommended case files in any order and then some of the modern ones.

This gives you a nice survey of the character's history without having to read 15 enormous tones back-to-back.

I think you have to develop a love for the character and universe first before you can go back to those old stories. The "dated" aspects can lessen your enjoyment if it's your first exposure, but once you've gained some knowledge of Dredd, you can appreciate the earlier stories much more.

"Starting from the beginning" is just all around a bad idea for any long-running comic not by a single author.

>>88197364
Ignore that troglodyte, he trolls rec threads all the time. Don't let him derail good threads with his bullshit.

>>88197563
How much do you weight irl?

Why do you faggots always ask where to start when you know the best answer is AT THE FUCKING BEGINNING.
Just read it from the fucking beginning. Fucking dumb cunts.

>>88205763
that's not really the case with serial comics where there are usually well defined eras of varying quality
also shut up fag

>>88197503
I loved the practical effects, Mean Machine and the ABC Warrior were like sex to me.

>>88203711
I think if you're prepped for some camp adventures, you could enjoy it. Maybe check out some of the modern ones too.

>>88195775
>>88196036
Oh come on, the Stallone film is what introduced me to Dredd, and I love it.

>>88208211
That's probably because its the good Dredd movie.

>>88208101
The movie did have lots of very good practical sets and effects. Just take stallone Dredd out and add Urban, you got a perfect Dredd film.

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>>88199364
>There are many stories that Dredd is a straight up action hero.
That's not much different than saying that since Goddamn Batman exists, Snyder's Batmanslaughter is justified. Stallone's Dredd is not quintessential Dredd, Urban's is.
>1000% more in depth with lots of locations compared to Dredd
Like I said, yes, It has more, but it feels like a theme park ride. While Urban movies' setting may not be as rich on details and scenery, it actually feels like a distopic shithole.

>>88208438
>Just take stallone Dredd out and add Urban, you got a perfect Dredd film.
Urban is a talentless manlet, Stallone was perfect casting.
Urban looks like someone put a Dredd helmet on a pug.

>>88205604
More than he lifts. A lot more.

>>88209081
My beef with Urban MC1 is that it makes too much sense. Stallone MC1 wasn't utterly insane but it was far closer to the comic MC1 versions that were a big part of getting me into Dredd.

>>88209109
Come on, one of them is above the Standardised Manlet Threshold and it isn't Stallone.

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>>88209212
For Dredd 2012 I think they did great with the budget they had.

>>88209109
>Urban is a talentless manlet, Stallone was perfect casting.
kek
Urban is 185cm
Stallone is 177

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S7p2JJ_WGBI

>>88209291
Is that just an excerpt from the script, or the actual script had concept art in it?

>>88209291
So Judge Dredd is a woman now? But /co/ tells me that European comics a re supposed to be better than American ones.

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>>88209340

>>88209340
>bait this pathetic
here's 2 (you)s, for charity

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>>88209324
Don't know, it's from the illustrated script and visuals, but I don't think the "real" script had the concept art in it.

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>>88209340

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>>88209340

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>>88209109
>Urban looks like someone put a Dredd helmet on a pug.

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>>88209324
>>88209383
The story is that Jock, the artist, was brought in to do concept work for the movie after a couple of pieces he'd done for fun got posted all over the internet as "SUPER SECRET CONCEPT ART FOR NEW DREDD MOVIE". The producers saw it and offered him a job doing the real thing.
After doing a bunch of pieces, the director asked Jock to draw an illustrated version of the script, a mix of storyboard and comic book to show around investors and the crew and give them an idea of how the movie was gonna look like.
A couple of years after the movie, that illustrated script got packaged with a ton of awesome concept art and sold. It's a pretty cool book.

>>88210193
Which Chief Judge is this supposed to be? MacGruder from the ponytail?

There's no real reason not to start from the beginning. There's some really good stories in there, like the robot uprising or when Dredd is stationed as Sheriff of the moon.

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>>88210860
Yup. The script never named her, but her description was "an elderly woman", so odds are they were thinking of good ol' Hilda when writing it.

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FAZ U BIF

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OOOOOOO NOU!

>>88199274
This is exactly why the new Dredd works.

We see a spectacular battle taking out a crazed gang, But for Dredd it's just another day on the job.

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>>88211672
And it also works beautifully as a contrast to Anderson, for whom this is the most important day of her life.

>>88197364
Don't recognize bottom left. What's it all about?

>>88211887
It's Lost at Sea by Bryan Lee O'Malley. I put it there as a sort of placeholder for all his work. If you like Scott Pilgrim. It's a cute one off graphic novel about teenage angst and shouldn't be too expensive now.
>>88200557
>>88201522
Yup, Journey Into Mystery. One of the best Marvel runs in recent times, and great use of the shared universe.

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Seeing how this thread is wlos I will use it to storytime

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>>88214031
>wlos
Slow ! ...don't know how I mess up this badly

Bough Case files 2 and shitloads of pages are faded. Faulty scans of the originals or did the prinht screw up?

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>>88214602
Faulty scans of the originals

>>88195775
>there are Dredd fans who still think this
Stallone cheapened the image of Dredd by having to show his face all the god damned time, but otherwise the movie wasn't as bad as people make it out to be. It captures the absurdity of the comics, and has some ABC Warriors and Mean Machine Angel thrown in.

>>88214657
For me the perfect Dredd film would be Urban with the aesthetics of Stallone and the 2 hr action scene shortened to 1hr 30min to accommodate 30 more minutes of buildup and investigation.

>>88214749
I don't know how I overestimated the length by that much... Probably not used to movies keeping up the pacing for so long, but the idea stands.

>>88214652
Why is Dredd wearing Inquisitor power armour?

>>88197225
Get thee back to /a/, this is /co/, where spoonfeeding is a joy

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>>88215265
This ain't Dredd

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I read a few Dredd comics and read the wiki. I was disappointed when I found out most of Megacity 1 dies. I'd rather Megacity 1 be this unchanging grim dark future like WH40K.

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>>88215404
You should read Day of chaos., most of Megacity dies but the story is worht it

Is that the end?

>>88214323
>Extreme prejudice
You want me to be racist at them?

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>>88215647
No there is another volume

>>88216130
this is obviously digital, is it from one of the restricted files tpbs?

>>88211722
>raul_julia.jpg

>>88214031
Lovely!

Question, anyone have an idea as to how this fits in with main Dredd? I recall Abnett describing Insurrection as a possible future, but I'm pretty sure I've seen references in main Dredd that indicate this I going on more or less "now".

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>>88216228
Don't remember but I think it's one of the case files

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>>88216390
More or less now but before lawless

Question: where are the restricted case files in Dredd Chronology? Are they rec?

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>>88216630
They happen along side, they are just the special and annual.

ex : The Restricted Files 01
(Reprints: Judge Dredd stories from 2000 AD Summer Special 1977, 2000 AD Annual 1978-1985, 2000 AD Sci-Fi Special 1978-1984, Dan Dare Annual 1979-1980, Judge Dredd Annual 1981-1985)

>>88214634
Because fuck you that's why. *BOOM*

>>88215265
Insurrection started life as a script for Warhammer Monthly. When that went away it got retooled for the Dreddverse but a lot of 40k elements still got carried over

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>>88217320
>script for Warhammer Monthly
As it ever been confirmed or is it just fan theory

>>88217369
Pretty sure I read or listened to an interview that confirmed it, maybe on everything comes back to 2000ad?

The parallels seem to too strong for it to be a coincidence regardless

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>>88217449
Oh ok.
It never bothe rme because in the early Dredd the power ressource of Mega 1 keep fluctuating between huge space armies and not having enough judges for the street

me sad

>>88217876
Even the robot has a sad face

What happened to the woman with Gallows? Did she die in the explosion at >>88217454 ?

>>88217917

>>88195775
>a movie in which you get to see Rob Schneider get shot in the stomach
>bad