F4

Kill yourself Fox. Give the rights back to Marvel. Just ask for a couple billion. Recoup all your loses in one fell swoop. It's a dead franchise at this point.

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Pixar like tone, fun and fancy free family exploring the cosmos through science and mysticism, with the kids and extended cast

Pic related as Reed Richards

You don't.

>>88174348
Does "good" have to include "successful"? Because I don't think that's possible at this point.

>>88174412
They tried. Ike refused the pitiful price they asked on the basis that they'd revert eventually anyway.

>>88174348
Take the first volume of Ultimate Fantastic Four.

Then film it.

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>>88174348
Live action Incredibles.
What do I win?

>>88174348
The only way to make a good Fantastic Four movie is to make a good Dr. Doom. Magic, doombots, Latveria and all.

>>88174348
Make it a hard sci-fi adventure movie with no final boss and no traditional super-heroing.

The conflict is something like "Reed was working on experiments in the negative zone, sci-fi shit happened, and they're all stranded. Now they have to do science stuff and work out a way to get back". Basically do a classic Star Trek style story but with the F4.

And no origin story.

>>88174348

Doesn't matter. I could write a script where every time you read it money just falls from the ceiling and contains a functional and scientifically accurate cure for cancer, but Fox would find a way to fuck it up by sticking their dick in it.

As long as they think that they have a better idea of what comic book fans want than the fans themselves do, they will continue to produce a shit product.

>>88174500
I dont like to wish death on people but I cant wait until that old fuck dies. Why cant 2016 just take him already?

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>>88174529
We did this and the results were underwhelming.

>>88174529
>And no origin story.

Unfortunately, Trank fucked us on that.

Tranktastic 4 gave us a completely different origin story than the previous F4 movies. That means that, unlike Batman and Superman who have had their origin stories done and redone more than enough times for the general public to know them, the Fantastic 4 doesn't have that sturdy foundation.

There is a legitimate problem that Trank invented for us that casual audiences might not know that Fantastic 4 origin anymore. Or rather, not know which one is 'canon' for you until you spell it out.

>>88174506
I for one don't want to watch h a movie about that planet of assholes.

>Victor Von Doom is a scientist and astronaut working for the Russians on experimental space weapons
>In this version of the story Latveria is part of the Communist Eastern Bloc and has suffered greatly under Russian occupation; Doom, seeing himself as a voice of the people, attempted to stir revolution against the Russians but was caught and sent to Siberia; here Victor is recruited by the Soviet Space Program knowing of his genius, to earn his freedom and ensure the safety of the people of Latveria (essentially becoming a slave to the Soviets)
>The Americans, actually ahead of the Russians, send Reed, Sue, Ben, and Johnny (all working in some form for NASA) on a rocket to Mars
Learning of the American’s plans, the Russians send their own team (including Doom) to Mars in an experimental (and possibly unsafe) rocket that Doom designed (Doom says the rocket isn’t ready but the Russians use it anyway)
>On route cosmic rays bombard the Russian ship, heavily damaging the Russian’s and sending it spiraling back to Earth
>Reed, Sue, Ben, and Johnny all make it to Mars and plant the American flag in the red martian soil, collect samples, etc... before making their way back to Earth
>On their way back they too are hit by cosmic rays but manage to successfully land
>The Russian rocket is retrieved by the Russians with Doom being the only survivor (who is horribly scarred)
>Meanwhile the four’s powers begin to manifest and are placed under quarantine; news of their successful mission has been revealed to the public and the media dub the four “The Fantastic Four”

>>88174643
>Reed has the power of elasticity (gaining it from the rocket’s experimental lightweight rubber polymer), Sue gains the power of invisibility (from the rocket’s stealth functions), Johnny gains fire powers (from bonding with solar flare particles), and Ben becomes rock-like (from bonding with samples of Mars’ soil)
>Back in Russia the Soviets see the American’s success as a huge embarrassment to themselves and lay the blame on Doom; as punishment Doom’s village is massacred while Doom is put back into prison
>The Fantastic Four begin training to control their powers; Reed is guilt ridden for what happened to his friends and is worried they may never lead public lives ever again - especially Ben
>The military wants to use the Fantastic Four as propaganda pieces and embrace their media popularity; they do so by revealing the team’s abilities to the public and calling them the first REAL American superheroes; this angers the team who still see themselves as freaks
>In his prison cell, Doom’s powers manifest (various forms of “cosmic energy projection”) and he escapes (killing nearly every guard and soldier)
Doom flees to Latveria and discovers his village and family massacred; he retreats to his ancestor's castle where he finds a suit of armor and cloak which he fashions into new attire and wears it to cover his scarred body and face; it is here that Doom learns of the “Fantastic Four” and stews in anger and jealousy
>Apprehensively the Fantastic Four make their first public appearances in person (they are given costumes to wear - all part of the propaganda angle); to their surprise the four are welcomed by the public and begin to feel more at ease with their powers and new identities (Ben in particular is loved by children)

>>88174575
That was in no way the same thing as what I suggested, it wanted to be an action movie and it had that weird monsterface final boss man.

>>88174672
>Soviet soldiers are sent into Latveria to retrieve Doom; the USSR know of his powers and wan’t to use him as their own propaganda piece and weapon; Doom kills the soldiers and decides to take action - never again will he or his people be used in such terrible ways
>Doom returns to Russia where he holds General Secretary Brezhnev hostage and assumes control of the Russian military and nuclear weapons; Doom activates the space weapons program known - a satellite with a cosmic control rod that collects cosmic rays and channels them in a form of a ray which Doom plans to use to literally carve the world in his image
>The Americans learn of what has happened in Russia and send the Fantastic Four to stop Doom before he activates it
>The Fantastic Four and Doom battle as the weapon begins to wipe away portions of the United States and Russia landscapes as it moves towards major cities
>Working as a team, and with great struggle, the Four incapacitate Doom and shut it down
>The US government (in contact with the Four) order the Four to move control of the weapon to the military team; the Four refuse and opt to destroy it, believing no government should wield that type of power
>During this Doom escapes
>Sometime later the Fantastic Four have separated from the US Government, agreeing to look out for the interests of the globe and not just the United States; because of how loved they are by the public the US agrees and as a peace offering allow the Four to take up residence in New York City’s historic Baxter Building
>Alarms go off in the Baxter building as subterranean seismic activity begins to rattle New York and reports of a a giant three-headed monster emerging from the ground pour in; the four suit up and get to work
>Doom meanwhile has fled back to Latveria where he has started to gain a loyal following; Doom declares himself “absolute monarch of Latveria” and works towards inciting further revolution in the region

>>88174412
Disney gave 4 billion for Star Wars, you really think they'd give billions for the F4?

The franchise is so thoroughly raped that even 100 million would be too much.

>>88174529
Yeah this could work. Like maybe they get stranded on some planet in the Negative Zone that's under siege by Anniluhs and they have to save the inhabitants if they want to get back home.

Harlan Ellison writing.
Darren Aronofsky directing.

Reed - Forest Whitaker
Sue - Winona Ryder
Johnny - Elijah Wood
Ben - Clancey Brown
Vic - Javier Bardem
Kang - Viggo Mortensen

Make it the darkest, bleakest mindfuck humanly possible. I want people jumping out of windows after the film gives them an existential crisis.

>>88174767
So Stargate?

I liked Stargate.

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Is there like a list of which F4 related characters FOX own?

>>88174529
>Basically do a classic Star Trek style story but with the F4.
We can't even get a Star Trek movie with a classic Star Trek story.

>>88174672
>Reed has the power of elasticity (gaining it from the rocket’s experimental lightweight rubber polymer), Sue gains the power of invisibility (from the rocket’s stealth functions), Johnny gains fire powers (from bonding with solar flare particles), and Ben becomes rock-like (from bonding with samples of Mars’ soil)

Eh just have some cosmic relic/experiment they uncover on Mars, some leftover from the Celestials/Inhumans/some cosmic faction they have rights to (or can trade for) and have it be based on the 4 elements, since the FF's powers are basically the 4 elements anyway.

And drop the whole Cosmic Rays thing altogether. Purists will REEEEE but fuck them.

>>88174760
This. It has negative value at this point. Fox lost money on the last effort.

>>88174348
You cant. Shity heroes get a shitty movie.

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>>88174767
>>88174787
Go full Stargate and make the villain Rama-Tut.

>>88174687
>Whitebread genius/talented family goes into space and has sci-fi adventurers.

It's exactly what you suggested thematically, minus sooper-powers.

>>88174575

I liked Lost in Space

>>88174348
You need the sjw factor to save it. Only one main black was not enough.

>>88174903
>Egyptian
>white male

[literally shaking intensifies]

>>88174937
There are always people who like whatever, the studio that made that film would have like for it to have made some money.

>>88174348
Turn it into a period piece that takes place during the 60s ala X-men first class.
Fantastic Four is all about the 1950s nuclear family mixed with the fantasies born of the space race.

>>88174937
Shit, I thought I was the only one who liked that movie.

>>88174643
>>88174672
>>88174736

Fox we know it's you. Just stop it. No more origin stories. No more trying to ground the F4. We want fantastical Stargate/Star Trek shit. Fucking get Jonathan Hickman to oversee the production.

>>88174982
That would actually work best if they were to appear in the MCU. It would explain why they weren't around in the present day events.

>>88174828
Beyond was pretty close, but you're not wrong.

>>88174971
>Jew Line Studios
Welp, we'll never know if it made money or not then.

>>88175015
Are you implying that Marvel doesn't do origin stories and that if they got the rights back that they wouldn't do one?

>>88174348

Period piece like Cap 1. The FF belong in the early-60s space race with Reed and the gang as the first humans to reach space. Simply never bring them into modern times.

(or show that a Future Foundation exists in the current timeframe with the children and students of the original 4. but the original Fantastic Four stay in the 60s)

>>88174621
Early morning Johnny and Ben are horsing around Ben sits down turns on the TV and you get a news story talking about the anniversary of the shuttle accident. Don't spend too much time on it just enough to make it clear that's what happened and to establish that the 4 are recognized as heroes

>>88175065
They didn't do it with Spider-Man, so yeah.

>>88175050
But not explain why there has been no mention of them

>>88175065
Marvel knows when a property is too worn out to manage an origin story, that's why we're not getting one in Homecoming.

>>88175065
If Marvel did it, it would be good.

If they got the F4 back they would go the way of Spider Man and Hulk.

>>88175160
>If Marvel did it, it would be good.
You fucking Mouseketeers will eat up any garbage.

>>88175015

all you comic fans complain about origin stories but these movies Are Not For You. You're a negligible drop of water in the moviegoer bucket, and the casuals want origin stories.

Besides, you complain about it but you're the first person to pre-order tickets to go see BvS *knowing* it was going to be yet another origin story, and a fucking hack Snyder origin story at that.

There is a reason the studios do not listen to you.

>>88175065
>glossed over Origin story in Incredible Hulk (Yeah I know technically wasn't Marvel but whatever)
>No origin for Homecoming
>Ant Man was a torch-passing as the first film

If the property won't work as an origin story they'll do something else. They know how to make money.

>>88175189
But BvS literally wasn't an origin story for any of the three heroes who featured prominently...

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Combination of:

>The Incredibles
>Star Trek Beyond
>Guardians of the Galaxy

A 60's period piece if possible. A ton of focus on DOOM, he's top 3 villains ever and we're in age where capeshit villains are AWFUL so that can be your winning ticket.

>>88175119
The best way to integrate F4 in the MCU would be with alternate dimensions.

Already introduced the concept in Doctor Strange, so it would be very easy to have the F4 come from a different dimension to the MCU dimension. Just introduce the Earth-whatever stuff. Pretty sure the MCU is officialy known as Earth-199999.

>>88175189
How was BvS an origin story?

>>88175186
Better than your shit Fox. That's why the MCU consistently gets good reviews and does billions at the box office while your shit flops and underperforms.
>>88175189
BvS wasn't even an origin story. Casuals dont want origins for heroes they've seen already. That was the biggest complaint of The Amazing Spider Man movies. Fucking Doctor Strange streamlined the origin story aspect because Marvel with all their wisdom knew people didn't want to sit through another generic origin story.

Maybe if you fucks listened to the fans you would be making good movies.

>>88175255
Doom might be the most wasted property owned by a major studio. He's prime for becoming a Darth Vader tier villain to the masses.

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>>88175255
>Let's keep flogging the arch-nemesis in film after film.
Lets not.

>>88175189
>pre-order tickets to go see BvS *knowing* it was going to be yet another origin story

I think you mean MoS. BvS has like three minutes of origin story.

>>88175205
Ant-Man is an origin story, it's just framed as a sequel to story we don't get to see.

>>88174348
Id hate to parrot the "Revert back to Mahvel!" thing but in reality I believe that the Fantastic Four are best suited there, not to mention their rogues gallery is prime material for Phase 4 (no pun intended). Its been said before, but the best way to do the four is by focusing on two crucial aspects: that theyre a family, and that theyre explorers first and heroes second. Dr Doom should be cockteased and be the next big bad after Thanos. For solo movie villains, Id go with Red Ghost and Annihilus. Has FOX budged on the bargaining yet? You would think they'd focus more on the mutants and cut their losses.

>>88175353
Does that 3 minutes count the time we showed Bruce's origin the second time, in case retards (Snyder fans) forgot it over the first hour?

>>88175308
>your
>Marvel with all their wisdom

Do you really work for Marvel or something?

>ITT: Foxlet is mad that fans aren't eating up their ideas for another F4 reboot.

This is why your movies fail. Listen to the fans and stop trying to shove your shit in our faces because we aren't taking it. We didn't take Fant4stic and we're not taking this.

>>88175416
Did it trigger you when Nolan flashbacked to Bruce's origin for 3 straight movies?

>>88175348
Christ! Stop posting pics of Donald Trump on /co/ !

>>88175476
>>>reddit

>>88175399
Near as I can figure, relations between Fox and Marvel are so strained at this point that Fox would sooner license the property out to Brazzers than make any kind of deal with Marvel. I'd be less surprised to hear that they let an executive's nephew make a student film for grad school to retain the rights at this point.

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Only Snyder has the mastery of the genre to show the Origin Story twice within the same film.

>>88174956
Kang is not Egyptian tho

>>88175548
He Wuz.

>>88175539
Feige recently said that they're never getting the X-Men back. I believe used the term "impossibility"

>>88175548
>cultural appropriation

I literally cannot shake any harder.

>>88175548
Oh God, if they cast Idris Elba as Kang, the Banepost meme would finally be toppled.

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>>88174348
Lean into the 60s aesthetic and have fun with the retrofuturistic shit Reed can make a reality.
Also be unafraid to really be weird with shit and feel a need to have everything cater to what they perceive normie tastes are ie DOOM can be a hammy mix of SCIENCE and Magic rather than another energy manipulator who got fucked up in the same accident.

I mean it'll fail but it'd probably be somewhat fun if done right.
>>88175399
How would Fantastic Four work better in the MCU exactly? I hear it a lot but I never really got it.

>>88175582
If you're referring to the comment I believe you are, I think that was a response to the possibility of a collaboration similar to the Spider-Man situation. He said the studios working together was impossible with the way things currently are.

>>88175547
>he doesn't realize that the Krypton sequence is Zod's origin story, not Clark's

>>88175627
It'd be a slightly better plotted version of the first FF movie with a less engaging version of Doom. Seriously, why do they insist on using Doom for the first film? He's a third film bad guy. Use Mole Man for your first villain.

>>88175539
As I figured. They were really pissed when they lost Daredevil and Marvel flipped it into a hit Netflix show. Problem is that FOX isnt hurting like SONY was, and the F4 aren't in the same league as Spider Man. Question is, will Marvel bite the bullet come Phase 4? Galactus and Doom are more valuable than the F4 themselves

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>>88175701
>he doesn't realize that the destruction of Krypton sequence is the most familiar superhero movie origin of all time, and it didn't stop Hack Snyder from explaining it TWICE in the same film.

>>88175627
I would say the tone, and the material they are working with. Id hate to compare it to Guardians of the Galaxy, but its the same weird territory the Fantastic Four usual deal with. FOX had their shot, and Id rather see Marvel take a crack at it than have FOX be petty shits about their own fuckups

>>88175708
It's not up to Marvel, it's Disney's call. They won't even let them make another Hulk movie because they'd have to collaborate with Universal, who gets a piece of the pie. Disney doesn't want that, and there's no way in hell they'd buddy up with Fox to do something similar. The only reason the Sony thing happened is because they're on the verge of bankruptcy.

>>88175708
Marvel has way too much shit to draw on for them to give a shit if they can't get Doom and Galactus.

They've barely fucked with Dormammu yet, Mephisto hasn't even been hinted at, Shuma Gorath exists, Norman Osborn could easily weasel his way onto the stage outside Spider-Man's films, Surtur could show up, Ultron 2.0 could be a thing eventually, the list goes on.

Marvel has made their entire image on taking D-list characters normies never gave a shit about and turning them into movie stars. Nobody knew who the fuck Thanos was before Avengers happened.

>>88175785
The beginning of the movie was to set up what the codex was and Zod's motivation. What Jor-El told Clark later in the movie was how Krypton got to that point. It's not similar at all you fucking dunce.

>muh period piece
>muh orange story

jesus!

>>88175855
People still don't know who the fuck Thanos is because they've done nothing with him since Avengers. It took him 4 years to get out of his chair.

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>>88175855
Fair enough. Its a shame though. Oh and Surtur is already set to appear in Thor Ragnarok. Speaking of Norman, can we even salvage Goblin at this point?

>>88175785
>he doesn't realize that outside of the '78 Superman film the destruction of Krypton is glossed over or only referenced in films
>he also doesn't realize that Krypton sequence is devoted entirely to the immediate circumstances of Krypton's destruction to inform the audience of Zod and Jor-El's motivations while the version told to Clark contextualizes the first sequence

>>88175918
And yet people are still hype as fuck about it. Do you see my point? Marvel doesn't need name recognition, people get hyped just from seeing their logo at this point. They could throw random villains up on a dartboard and pick whoever they hit as their next big bad and it wouldn't matter at this point.

>>88175948
Considering what Vulture looks like, no.

>>88175855
Just touching on the Elders of the Universe so far
just a glimpse of the Celestials
Eternals
Magus
High Evolutionary
Masters of Evil
Gravitron
Sentry
Taskmaster
Leader
Enchantress and Executioner
And on it goes.

>>88175997
But even normies know Marvel's villains suck.

>>88175948
You wouldn't even need to do the Goblin, you could introduce him as the shady business guy with a checkered past (alluding to his villain background) and just make him the the kind of character he was during Dark Reign.

>>88176042
I'd love to see Taskmaster mix it up with Captain America at some point.

>>88175701
When did I imply the plot at all? I'm just saying things should be allowed to be weird and out there. My issue with a lot of Superhero movies is hey always tend to be pretty incestuous with origins and shit like that. Have Mole Man have Skrulls have any of that shit just don't have the villain be "and they're the same thing as the heroes but also an asshole"

>>88175948
The Green Goblin is one of those characters where there is no getting around how silly they'd look in live action if you went faithful to the comic design.

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>>88175950
>he doesn't realize that outside of the '78 Superman film the destruction of Krypton is glossed over or only referenced in films
That's because it's the most well-known superhero origin ever. It was extremely well-known well before the 70's film.

>>88176106
Design-wise, the only solution for the goblin is to just give up and trying the guy in a suit angle and going full Ultimate Spider-Man Hulk Goblin.

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>>88176055
I suppose. But part of me still wants to see a well done Green Goblin.
>>88176000
Whats wrong with Toomes?

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>>88176170
>Whats wrong with Toomes?
They tacticool'd him up.

>>88176055
Because the Goblin is a better villain than Dark Reign Norman which also requires he be a literal insane supervillain who weaseled his way through the government ranks to run SHIELD. Being a shady businessman doesn't have the same punch.

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>>88175950
>while the version told to Clark contextualizes the first sequence
It's already put into context by the discussion between Jor El and the council, and the arguments with Zod over the course of Krypton's future.
THEN Jor El re-explains it all to Clark
AND we have to have scenes with Zod confirming what was explained about the failed colonies by visiting one,
Then later Zod has to go on a long diatribe to Clark about the same fucking issues.

You've spent so many years water-carrying for the film that you are no longer capable of discussing it rationally or intelligently.

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>>88176106
>>88176159
?
>>88176225
Its the helmet isnt it? Be honest anon, Vulture is one of the harder Spidey villains to adapt. How would you do it?

>>88176225
An old man in pajamas and feathers was probably not going to cut it, honestly.

Umm a family-friendly lighthearted adventure series.
I'm daring and or crazy enough to use the cast from Fan4stic...

>meanwhile in glorious Russia, Ivan Kragoff sets to repeat FF experiment with apes and himself, creating glorious Russian Super-Apes.. and publicly challenging the Fantastic Four, lest the power family that was working in Russia] get's bombarded with energy...

Will the Fan4stic defeat the challenges of the Red Ghost...?
Will the hostages survive?...
Does Fox even have the rights to all this?
Find out never.

>>88176311
That looks retarded on paper, and would look even more retarded in live action.

>>88176159
>going full Ultimate Spider-Man Hulk Goblin.

That's even worse. I think Raimi's GG is a good place to start for a live action Goblin. There is already a trend of drawing the Goblin suit with armored elements to it, so take it to something of a fantasy armor design.

>>88174423
>with the kids and extended cast
nope, ur dumb

>>88176391
You dislike it, but it would work in a film and normies would love it. You need to realize that the comic accurate adaptation is not going to be the one that's successful most of the time when it comes to character design.

>>88176297
You realize that Clark isn't watching the film alongside you, right?

>>88176471
Not him but I got to agree with that anon in this case, Ultimate Goblin isnt as good as 616. Fire throwing hulk just doesnt compete with the insane bomb throwing nutjob. And cmon, who doesnt love the glider?

>>88176475
You realize that doesn't excuse the directorial choice of making us follow him on the ride through the "Museum of Shit we Just Spent 20 Minutes being Shown".

>>88176469
There's been three failed attempts at making them hip young heroes. So let's give the family angle a try.

>>88176533
People who spend money on movie tickets don't like super sentai goblin.

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>>88176591
This

>>88176602
Then dont give him a stupid fucking mask

>>88176602
Are you saying the original Spider-Man film wasn't a success?

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>>88176602
Yeah, I remember that box office rejection.....

>>88176679
I'm saying it wouldn't be a success if it released today.
>>88176656
So make him a regular dude wearing a flight suit riding a flying segway? Or make him a weirdo monsterface man with a suit of armor (you know, like they did in ASM2 and everyone hated it)?

>>88176757
>I'm saying it wouldn't be a success if it released today.
It's not 30 years old. You said
>People who spend money on movie tickets don't like super sentai goblin.
I'm saying that Spider-Man had the third biggest domestic gross in capekino history behind only The Avengers and TDK.

People liked him plenty. No one cares what you like.

>>88174423
>"Flame Johnny, Flame..."

>"Bubble Sue, Bubble..."

>"Clobber Ben, Clobber..."

>>88176757
I would argue that ASM2 had the right idea, but made EVERY wrong decision surrounding it. They didnt commit to the monster face and we got......whatever the hell that shit was

>>88176850
The goblin is the most made fun of aspect of that film, even when it came out people were making fun of the power ranger suit. Age of Ultron made $1.4B, but people fucking hated Ultron's design.

>>88177074
>but people fucking hated Ultron's design.
Autists on 4chan aren't "people" by most accepted definitions.
And given the Box Office of both films, I'd say their whining means less than nothing.

>>88177074
>People fucking hated Ultrons design
You're exaggerating. People had a problem with the script and what it allowed him to do

>>88176893
All the teenage emo love bullshit ruined those films, Peter stairing at his relationship photo wall after his break up with a sticky note saying "How can I live without you in my life?"

What the fuck is that bullshit?

>>88177179
and again by "people", he means professional internet complainers.
The normies will all the tickets didn't care.

>>88177134
>literally defending the Ultron design

I really hope you're being paid to shill this hard.

>>88177228
Hes not wrong, normies didnt give a fuck about Ultrons design

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>>88177228
>you Marvel shill
Thank you for perfecting illustrating my point. Non-retards who take their families to movies never sound like this.
Don't bother mouth-breathing at me any harder, I'm well aware of what a fucking mess you are.

Make it fantastical and futuristic and hopeful and optimistic, not edgy, gritty, realistic body horror.
Hire a natural blonde as the Invisible Woman, not a latina.
Don't give the blonde girl a black brother.
If you need a minority make it Thing I guess, since he's Jewish in the comics anyway.
Include Doctor Doom, don't make him a computer hacker, don't make him a greedy CEO.
He's a foreign dictator with a strong code of honor, who was hideously scarred due to vanity.
He has the 'related to the hero' thing because he attended school with Reed, and the 'scarred mask wearing' thing, studios love shoehorning these things in where they don't belong (GI Joe) to make them more Star Wars-ish so they should love this.
Give him an Eastern European accent.
Make Reed smoke a pipe and Thing smoke cigars.
Include fun sci-fi things like the Fantasticar and H.E.R.B.I.E.
Reed's stretching powers could look really cool in 3D if they get really imaginative with them, have him do some of the weird visually interesting things with them that Jake does in Adventure Time.
There's lots of potential for building franchises around this property, but focus on the first movie before you get ahead of yourself. If it works you could have:
-Doctor Doom origin spin-off
-Future Foundation
-Silver Surfer spinoff

>>88177325
That's some serious projecting there.

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>>88177445
Pithy comeback.

start in Manhattan, dropped into a fight with moleman and moloids. recreate the classic cover.
no real origin story, just let the characters actions and personalities explain themselves as we go. team history explained in breif news reports after the battle.
brief respite, reed working on ftl and subspace accidentally access the negative zone.
full on tripping balls negative zone shit.
even if the movie ends up being mediocre you can at least go back and get high and enjoy the visuals. team defeats annihilus with the power of SCIENCE and clobberin time..

>>88177551
It wasn't a comeback, it was an observation. You sound a tad insecure.

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>>88177445
>Accuse of being an overreactive manchild
>responds with the Pee Wee Defense

The irony

>>88177804
>anyone who criticizes my precious MCU is an over reactive manchild

The irony.

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You know how you can tell how well "the people" love your movie? By the 2nd-4th weekend take.
At this point, their friends, schoolmates and co-workers have asked the avid movie fans how well they liked Movie X, and based on the enthusiasm of their response decide whether to make one of their infrequent trips to the theater. Those weekends are the ones where you get repeat ticket buyers as well.

Spider-Man was still the #1 movie in it's second weekend, and #2 weekends 3-6, not fading to #3 till it's 7th weekend in theaters. It was dropping like 30% a weekend, which is incredible. It took a Star Wars movie to finally dislodge it out of the top spot.

Man of Shit, on the other hand, was #3 in it's second weekend, behind a cartoon sequel and a Brad Pitt zombie flop. Then #5, and eventually hitting #10 in it's 4th weekend, essentially pulling in pocket change.

This is the difference between a beloved movie, Goblin and all, and a poorly-received Hack film that had the benefit of a great trailer, no critical advance review, and half a year's pre-sale of tickets.