If a BRITISH critic (with NO COOKING BACKGROUND) gave a 4 star

why do people listen to critics with no background on anything that they review anyway

>>88123416
Anton Ego is french

>>88123416
>>88123437
you don't need to be a cook to tell people what food tastes like

also Ego is French

>>88123416
If a British food critic came to work for a French food publication they'd HON HON HON him out the door.

>>88123437
Because something something bad food analogy.

>>88123416
Ego grew up in the French countryside, asshole. You think Linguini was American?

>>88123416
Roger Ebert never directed a movie. For critics, the important ones are just the ones that have enough fame that people listen to them.

>>88123416
>4 star
There are only three possible stars, you philistine.

>>88124780
Ebert never directed but he did write the screenplay for Beyond the Valley of the Dolls

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>>88123416
>>88124817
it was 5 stars so you're both wrong

>>88124386
...yes?

>>88124817
>>88125011
they changed it for the movie, because they weren't allowed to use the real rating system

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>>88123437
I don't know, ask Doug Walker.

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>>88125096
They didn't have to mention Michelin. They really couldn't just say "three stars"?

>>88125096
Wouldn't want to sully the name of a tire company's travel and food guide

>>88124386
I assumed he was meant to be italian.. and talking like a new york american was their version of..

>>88125096
nobody OWNS stars

>>88125129
Do you seriously think people listen to him as a critic? People think of him as an entertainer, that's it, and that's pretty much what he has always been. Only the editorials are kinda like actual criticism and stuff like that, but there is a reason why these are not as popular as his usual videos. The videos of him not acting where he explains his actual thoughts are just reactions videos from any other youtuber who does reactions

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>>88125201
say that in real life not online and see what happens

>>88123416
how food tastes isn't a very technical thing, anon. You don't need to know how to make creme brulee to know when they haven't cooked the goddamn custard.

>>88125412
IT'S FUCKING RAW

>>88125240
>Do you seriously think people listen to him as a critic?
People are dumb and anything is possible.

>>88123416
He grew up in a small French Village.
>>88124386
>>88125171
I assumed Linguini was some other European and his American accent was just meant to demonstrate his foreign status.

I actually have a mexican friend who looks pretty damn close to the way linguini looks, at least facial shape wise.

>>88123416
He's not British and that's not at all how food critics work.

>>88123437
He's criticizing taste/presentation, his experience as the "audience", not rating the chef's technique.
Besides it's either they have little to no background or they're bitter failures.

>>88125546
I think it's meant to signify social class rather than origin. And yes, das rayciss.

>>88125292
Kek

>>88126199
but Horst and Colette were (generally) the same social class and they had different accents

>>88125292
>>88126245
You can OWN stars, man!

>>88126271
They're more established as cooks than Linguini and most likely make more money. Anyway, the only guy with a British voice is posh af.

>>88126378
but Mustafa is a waiter and he has a French accent

>>88126430
>high
British
>low
Everyone else

>>88126578
but his butler guy has a British accent

>>88123416
Would anyone in Paris give any fucks if some Italian guy got a bad review?

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>>88125129
He made the attempt. Now if he ever wants to compare to a really shitty movie he definitely knows of one.

Now we wait and see if he tries to make a cartoon series that will outshine his most hated 90's Disney Afternoon.

>>88126668
>Gusteau
>Italian

Anton Ego is so underrated. God tier voice acting and he wasn't even the villain but had all of the charisma. He just had impossibly high standards.

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>>88125240
Hey, I learned not to watch old episodes of Gummi Bears and Wuzzles because Doug said they were awful shows with shitty writing and too much childish antics with no sense of continuity.

>>88125129
TFW he has more hair than me now...

>>88123416
Anton Ego is french, he just has the british accent to display his character to English speaking characters. Kind of like that one Le Miserables movie where Paris is inexplicably peppered with people who have cockney accents.

>>88126751
>Linguini
>fucking stupid

>>88126763
>opposed to the protagonist
>is a huge dick about it
>actually dedicated to seeing the protagonist's proxy fail, not just forwarding his own plans
>not a villain

>>88126790
>Renata is an Italian name
>Gusteau's suddenly became an Italian restaurant because of change in ownership

>>88126822
disregard that first line, Renata actually is an Italian name, I'm retarded

>>88126796

>critics have to be your friend otherwise they're you're enemy.

Tom, please.

>>88126796
He's not opposed to the protagonist, he's opposed to Chef Skinner and the restaurant for the absolutely correct reason that it didn't deserve the ratings it had. Skinner didn't add a SINGLE new item to the menu since he took over.

He didn't believe that Linguini had what it took to be a master chef and he was right and wrong about that too. Once he was satisfied he voluntarily ruined his own career to give an honest review.

>>88126928

Also schilling Gusteau's legacy to Hell and back

>>88123437
>why do people listen to critics with no background on anything that they review anyway

Because I don't have a background in that thing either, and I want to know how likely I am to find the experience worthwhile before I spend money on it.

The point of a critic isn't to tell the guy he did a good job or not, it's to tell us, the people who don't know shit about anything, whether it's worth us going

>>88126928
he reviewed it poorly while Gusteau was still running it though, that's what started the whole thing

>>88126928
I'm still curious as to why he would lose credibility, he would lose more by being contrarian an saying a restaurant that genuinely turned itself around is still shit. Even taking to account the fact they found rats, that would be something else entirely that wouldn't affect the taste of the food itself and wouldn't reflect on his opinion of the food if he knew nothing of it.

>>88127046
This. Anton allowed his feelings about Gusteau's philosophy taint his reviews until Remy turned his worldview on its head.

>>88126751
Why would an Italian chef become French if he worked for a French restaurant?

Either way the critic would be writing about the Italian guy in the kitchen. Something I sincerely doubt any French people care about.

>>88127167
critics review the restaurant, not the head chef

>>88127046
That happens in the industry. Gusteau was experimental and sometimes his stuff didn't work out fantastic and to get the max stars you have to be GREAT.

>>88127137
Well he did say they took him back to the kitchen to see how the food was prepared in the review didn't he? At the very least he gave an incredibly infested restaurant glowing praise.

>>88127137
>that wouldn't affect the taste of the food itself
Yes it would, especially the amount of rats that the investigator fucking saw.
They were all over the fucking food when he walked in, if they had been normal rats that didnt clean themselves beforehand, the food would have suffered easily.
The public would only have to read that there was a massive rat infestation at Gusteau's, see that pest control actually shut down the restaurant for it, and Ego's glowing review despite all that to think he was out of his god damned mind.

>>88124957
That movie is 60s af

>>88127236

He never actually said he was taken to the back. The most he knew was that a single rat made the room. That's pretty much all he had to go on in the review.

>>88124957
that was a really weird movie

>>88123437
You don't need to be able to do something to know if it's done right or not.

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>>88125171
>An aspiring Italian boy finds out that he has a surprising family lineage, and is helped greatly by the French in his illegal plan to use the denizens of the local city underbelly to lead his career-of-choice's industry
>his first name is a fucking pasta
Anyone else notice Ratatouille is vaguely reminiscent of Venturo Aureo?

>>88127187
Other way around

Critics care about the chef and their capability, only Yelp gives a fuck about the building.

>>88126618
Butlers always do.
Even Jeffrey in Fresh Prince.

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>>88126751
>Gusteau
>French
His name comes from the Italian word for "taste", he just Frenchizied it so that people wouldn't treat him like the guido he is. The word for taste in French is "goût" (pronounced sort of like "goo").
It's like believing Jonah Hill is not a jew.

>>88126874
Nobody except Colette (and the rats) has a French name.
>inb4 Mustafa

Where is Skinner even supposed to be from?

>>88128967
Auguste sure ain't an Italian name

>>88129038
Frenchizing Augusto doesn't seem like a hard job then.

>>88129180
Auguste is literally a French name, you tard

>>88129180
Augusto is more a Latin American name than an Italian name

is Gusteau also a spic now?

>>88126796
Just because a character is a dick doesn't mean they have to be evil. He just had very high standards and an ego (sorry) to go along with them.

He mentioned in the movie himself that the negativity was what made people come back for his opinions on restaurants and he himself enjoyed dishing out said negativity. He looked forward to seeing Linguini fail because it would bring him business. Yes, it is scummy, but his job as a critic depended on it; and Linguini was being a cocky little shit.

As soon as he realized Remy was the one who cooked the dish that left him floored he willingly analyzed himself and fully admitted that what he used to think about cooking was wrong. He could have very easily just made up some bullshit excuse about how the dish was shit, but he took the other route and ended up with a much more satisfying and positive job.

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>>88129199
I know.
t. France

>>88129207
>Augusto is more a Latin American name than an Italian name

>>88129272
>a guy who spoke Latin, not Italian
>Romans=Italians
>Augustus was a title, not his name
>AugustUS, not Augusto
>most famous person actually named Augusto was a Latin American dictator
there's a lot going on here

>>88129314
>literally can't read the search field
Augusto is how they call him in Italian you filthy Anglo.

>>88129342
Augustus is the Latin so the Italians are fucking WRONG

>>88127015
Pretty much this. He's approaching it as "one of us" and if it's worth the effort to go through with it. We want good food and he's telling us how he tasted it.

>>88127362
I cannot help but get triggered when someone says this.

>>88129448
you don't need to know how to shingle a roof to know your roof is leaking

>>88129463
Correct, but you have no idea what type of shingles to buy, whether the roof was weatherstripped, or if there's a hole a squirrel or something chewed in it that's actually causing the problem.

Who would you critique anyway, the roof or the roofer?

>>88129533
That assumes the critic knows nothing of cooking, which is impossible becasue they would have a very short career if that is the case.

Does a building inspector need to have built roofs by hand to know something is wrong with a roof?

>>88126271
Wasn't Horst German?

>>88123437
That's a great critique of critics, but I don't know what I'm supposed to believe here.

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>>88125129
Doug Walker has background in film. He made this masterpiece!

>>88130547
Say want you want about the CA movies, but they're still more than anyone here has done.

>>88130623
What is your point?

>>88129371
Good thing we were talking about an Italian name.

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>>88130520

>>88130683
We were talking about whether Auguste Gusteau is French or not and we got off track

>>88130623
In runtime that's technically correct but I have film made.

If a Brit did anything, anyone with a brain would tell it to fuck itself.
Brits are not human and don't belong in human society.

>>88130709
Well yeah, my claim is that he's a krypto-italian.
Augusto Gusto.
Really though, French and Italian culture regarding cuisine is pretty mixed together in American media, the writers didn't care to give much authenticity to the names (except maybe if they were going with a very multicultural depiction of France, but that would validate my Gusto theory) but it's still my favorite Pixar movie.

>>88126786
you mean...the musical?

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Ratatouille is actually the best pixar film, and fuck anyone who disagrees
Second is Wall-E, third is probably the original Monsters inc

>>88125129
nitpicking films for laughs doesn’t make you a critic. Sadly, I do know people who value his opinion.

>>88131142
you know I just realized that a porn I've jerked off to a bunch of times is based off a real thing and not just made-up characters for the porn

this is a weird feeling

>>88125460
LOOK!

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>>88125160
>being a pirellifag

>>88130623
Its better to make nothing than complete shit

>>88130547
Anyone's got the screencaps of all the shitty things that happened while filming kickassia?

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Say what you want about Doug, at least he's not Moviebob

>>88133910
Back when I followed moviebob, at least i could get something out of him, while nonetheless acknowledging the limitations of his perspective. With doug, there's absolutely nothing to gain other than general nitpicking.