Green Lantern

Hal was closer.

It's not about being without fear, it's about overcoming great fear.

>>88120747
In Up Up and Away this very thing happened, although it was Clark who received the ring, not Superman.

>>88120747

Probably because the guardians wouldn't want to deal with trying to control someone who was already powerful enough to destroy them without ring magic.

Proximity and urgency. Abin Sur was dying and needed to impart a message before passing. So Hal was the closest and fastest option.

>>88120845
in other words, fate had a different plan for Hal Jordan.

>>88121334

And Guy Gardner, because according to the ring Guy Garner was the ideal candidate, but since Abin Sur didn't had much time and needed to pass his message the ring got Hal because he was closer.

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>>88120789
I like that it wasn't even that big a deal, Hal just showed up and was like hey want a ring

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>>88120747

There was a rule about giving the ring to a non-native species. That's what this says.

I'd like to think the Guardians have this rule so less developed worlds don't end up having some random alien as their lantern. It probably sits better to have someone from the local population picked.

>>88121444
But what if space sectors have several inhabited worlds?

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>>88121444
I think this was also a story that retconned that Hal actually didn't have the ability to feel fear because Abin Sur removed it from his brain prior to giving him the ring. The better reasoning is that Hal is just older than Superman.

He deserves a blue ring more.

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So Batman doesn't have the power to overcome great fear I take it?

>>88122017
No, he still have nightmares about his parents

>>88121963
I'm kind of disappointed he didn't get a blue or indigo ring during Blackest Night desu.

>>88121720
>I think this was also a story that retconned that Hal actually didn't have the ability to feel fear because Abin Sur removed it from his brain prior to giving him the ring
yeah that was a PAD story from Action Comics Weekly and it's never been brought up again (for good reason, it's dumb)

>>88120747
Because Superman gets his power from our yellow sun, and the ring is weak to the color yellow. So Clark would've traded his Superman powers for Green Lantern powers. That's a very bad trade if you ask me.

>>88122017

It's not that Batman doesn't have the will-power, but rather that he won't forgive or forget. He's the type of dude that use the time his parents died as pass-word. He's always nurturing pain and fear.

>>88122017
He's basically the exact thing the Rings were designed to fight.

>>88122110
Sodam Yat also derives power from a yellow sun and he's a Green Lantern. And isn't the yellow weakness not a thing anymore?

>>88122110
>be Supes
>use GL ring
>shit begins to run out of juice in space
>goad yellow lantern to chuck me into a yellow sun
>OH NO MUH WEAKNESS YELLOW SUN
>speed blitz everyone later

Supes picks up a yellow ring from Sinestro in Injustice since it's powered by fear -- namely the fear of everyone on the planet.

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Why didn't the ring choose Diana?

>>88122017
batman's willpower comes from fear so he's "tainted" according to the story where batman gets a ring

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Post characters from non-DC media who could become Lanterns.
>Blue

>>88124034

so the artist could draw her in a skimpy star sapphire outfit

>>88124079

Isn't Batman's motivations due to rage? Wouldn't he be more of a red lantern kind of guy?

>>88120747
He fears what his foes could do to his loved ones. He fears what would happen if he wasn't paying attention when some crisis happens.


Also he was probably twelve sectors away battling space bugs.

>>88120747
I'm not sure how canon the story is, but wasn't Tomar Re the Lantern of Krypton when it blew up, and the Guardians prioritized protecting it because they projected that the son of Jor-El would make a great GL, but when it all goes down and he becomes Superman, protector of the universe, they're just like "Eh, close enough."

>>88124200
Bats has all kinds of red, yellow, and green in him. he's probably too emotionally fucked for any particular ring to fit him well. Phantom Ring Bats tho

>>88124205
>He fears what his foes could do to his loved ones. He fears what would happen if he wasn't paying attention when some crisis happens.

And Hal doesnt?

>>88124299

Hal overcomes it

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>>88124147
Orange
He'd give Larfleeze a run for his latinum

>>88124342
Tenth Rule of Acquisition

>"Greed is eternal."

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>>88124464

>>88124411
Asami has never demonstrated exceptional willpower.

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Why didn't the ring choose him?

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>>88124567

>>88122017
Yellow lantern

>>88124262

Yup. Batman's actually a boiling stool of emotions. He's emotional as fuck. He simple know how to disassociate himself from his emotions thanks to his training.

That's why Batman's constantly feeling guilty about everything. Dude cares and feels too much. He just doesn't show or doesn't know how to express.

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>>88124615

>>88124299

Right? I find hilarious when people say shit like that as if it was unique to Superman.

>>88121592
2814 DOES have more than one inhabited world, hence Abin Sur.

But the rings recruit by proximity. The NEAREST person to the dead GL who "can overcome great fear"

And Abin crashed on the So-Cal coastline.

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>>88122017
Yes, he has, it's just that Johns is a hack. Anyway Johns tried to push that you needed an special kind of willpower.and then forgot about that.
Johns doesn't know shit about batman.

>>88124738
>you needed an special kind of willpower
The fuck? What kind of willpower do you need?

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>>88124505
No but she does suffer a lot, which is also a requirement for being a GL

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>>88124836

>>88124738

I can see the whole "overcoming the trauma and moving on" as a set-back when it comes to Batman.

Say that Hal can use the ring because he overcome his father's death and his fears. He put it all behind him and now he's in a better place. Let's say that for you to use the ring you need to muster pure unaltered willpower.

Batman certainly can't and won't do that. He won't overcome and move past his parent's death. Their death will always serve as a motivation and constant focus so that he can muster the willpower to go on. Tap that horrible night and the emotions they stir in him like fear, outrage, rage and so on. That could serve as a good reason for why he can't use the ring. Because his willpower comes from a very dark and muddle place filled with conflicting and wild emotions.

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>>88120747
He does not have the will to do what needs to be done.

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>>88124954

>>88122166
>Sodam Yat

Whatever happened to that guy?. Last i knew he got kidnapped by 3-eyes psychic bad guy during the crona arc after Brightest day

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>>88124726
I wonder what Toucan Sam's crime was.

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>>88121444
did this pic imply dick grayson could have become green lantern

or is that masked teenager not robin

>>88124605
This

>>88125058
That would be an interesting episode really, if an enemy uses all the doctor's previous personalities against him like a weapon trying to overload his ability to function. Has it been done before somewhere?

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>>88125416

>>88125480
Briefly in season 6. "Almost People" has a clone made of the Doctor who almost goes insane in the first 30 seconds of life because he's bombarded by all the Doctor's previous personalities and lives.

>>88124216
No, they actively interfered in Tomar Re's efforts to save Krypton

>>88124639
You know, in a crossover continuity who would get the role of the 'Oldest Race in the Universe'? The Guardians or Gallifreyans?

>>88124954
A Green Lantern ring might be a step down for Samus, imo

>>88125610
They're both equally old.

>>88124770
I seem to recall Ollie had trouble using Hal's ring in an issue because his willpower was 'tainted with cynicism' or something to that effect.

>>88125381
Well, you don't see his nephews anywhere, do you?

>>88125041
He showed up in post-Johns GLC and did nothing for a couple issues, hasn't shown up again

>>88120747

He's 10/10 on intelligence.

He's 10/10 on imagination.

He's 2/10 on doing what the Guardians want.

And now you know why.

>>88120747
I think the Guardians made a rule about Kryptonians not getting rings

>>88120747
The ruling, IIRC, was that because Clark wasn't a native of the sector

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>>88125517

>>88122017

Batman's whole purpose is instilling fear.

>>88125976

Since when Hal ever listened to the Guardians?

>>88126229
Wrong, Drax is white

One good reason for Superman to be a poor fit for a Green Lantern's Power Ring is that Superman, despite being confident and courageous, doesn't really flex his will all that much. Most of the time he's holding himself back, not pushing forward. He's optimistic and courageous, but rarely have to push his body and soul to the breaking point.

>>88126299
As was pointed out in this thread several times... not only do they regret him getting the ring but other, better, choices were out there. There just wasn't time/proximity to find them. With Superman it's more obvious he couldn't be controlled. Especially considering how pragmatic (read they'll sell you out in a heartbeat to serve their own purposes) the Guardians can be and considering how idealistic Superman is.

Will power isn't about not feeling fear, its about overcoming it

Never feeling it actually makes you weaker in this case.

Are you only strong when you have cheat mode engaged in life, or are you strong even when its a risk to yourself personally and you don't stand a chance. Are you Superman where you can stand fearless because the world is made out of cardboard to you, or are you Dan Turpin who calls Darkseid a shit to his face and dies for it.

>>88122017
He kinda doesn't, he doesn't want to overcome it, he needs that fear.

>>88126403
I mean one of the core character traits of Superman is that the powers aren't what make him Superman

>>88126465

But his powers make his life easy (and also hard). Superman constantly have to watch himself and hold it in. He rarely have the opportunity to let out, much less go past the breaking point. Superman's mostly unaware of his own limits.

>>88122017
In the story there was an entire plot point the Guardians had to spend a great deal of time manipulating Batman precisely BECAUSE he wouldn't let it go.

>>88126465
This loses a lot of meaning after the thirtieth time he gives the world of cardboard speech in some manner, saying he was holding back all along and there was never a challenge.

>>88126513
>>88126546
we have objective measures of this
1) Several characters with the powers of Superman who are not Superman
2) Several instances of Superman losing his powers and continuing to be a hero in some capacity

>>88126587

Post-Crisis whenever he lost his powers would take the chance to chill out and enjoy being human, since he almost kinda resented the fact that he wasn't technically human.

Nu52 Superman became scared and desperate as fuck to get his powers back, and ended up fucking his body trying to jump-start his powers back.

>>88125027
Very fitting. Or blue for having the hope to redeem the Krogans.

>>88126587
>1) Several characters with the powers of Superman who are not Superman
Until he reveals that he was holding back all along, which is how he usually wins. All of a sudden he just punches harder. Even with Doomsday he didn't win with some clever plan, he just punched harder.

>>88124954
Wouldn't Samus be a Red or Yellow Lantern? She's the protagonist but she's kind of a bad person.

>>88126682
LITERALLY with his powers, i.e. other Kryptonians

>>88120747
Because hal jordan has more will. Simple answer

>>88126687
>Samus.
>Bad.
The fuck?

>>88126692
Even with other Kryptonians, they reveal some "I was holding back all along" moment somehow. Like when they said that he was stronger since he's been exposed to Earth's sun longer or something.

>>88126654
>Post-Crisis
>spent the entirety of Up Up and Away doing his best to be a hero
>Nu52
>spent a considerable amount of time being a depowered superhero well before actively trying to regain his powers

Why doesn't Hal just get special GL rings made for the entire Justice League?

Why doesn't Batman use all the technology at his disposal to make himself a robot suit that functionally puts him on par with the JL heavy hitters, and then give copies of that suit to all the non powered JL heroes?

Why doesn't Wonder Woman get magical batarangs forged for Bruce and a magic sword for Superman?

Why doesn't Red Tornado build a billion copies of himself to increase his efficiency?

>>88126671
Or Violet.
For that Krogan cock.

>>88126723
he usually just punts them to the Phantom Zone

>>88126724

Superman in Up, Up and Away worked as a reporter in very inventive ways. He didn't really placed himself in unnecessary harm.

Superbro was scared as fuck initially about losing his powers and being locked out from his Fortress of Solitude and later tried to get his powers back in any way possible.

>>88126725
>Why doesn't Hal just get special GL rings made for the entire Justice League?
The Guardians don't want him to.

>Why doesn't Batman use all the technology at his disposal to make himself a robot suit that functionally puts him on par with the JL heavy hitters, and then give copies of that suit to all the non powered JL heroes?
1.) He did. It's just not always the appropriate solution. 2.) They wouldn't want it. 3.) If they do Batman probably doesn't trust them.

>Why doesn't Wonder Woman get magical batarangs forged for Bruce and a magic sword for Superman?
Batman can get his own if he felt like it. He doesn't trust magic, however, and probably wouldn't use them. Superman wouldn't use the sword either.

>Why doesn't Red Tornado build a billion copies of himself to increase his efficiency?
Probably the only legitimate question... if you ignore the philosophical quandary it poses for Red Tornado and whether or not he would be up to tackle it.

>All literally babby-tier questions.

>>88125416
>dat vulture
>dat lion
>dat perfect Daffy
>dat stork
this is perfect

>>88126789
>later tried to get his powers back in any way possible
not until Vandal Savage revealed himself and was causing huge problems

>>88126654
>Nu52 Superman became scared and desperate as fuck to get his powers back, and ended up fucking his body trying to jump-start his powers back.

He still tried to help with what he had left. He needed to recover his powers because of the growing threat of Vandal Savage and his children. If anything, the sacrifice he made when he exposed himself to the kryptonite reservoir in Argus shows how strong his willpower is.
>>88126682
>Which is how he usually wins

Name specific cases

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>>88120747
Who is the best Lantern and why is it Kyle Rayner?

>>88126725

Batman doesn't like to rely to much on robo-suits or have too much Kevlar. He wants to be in peak physically condition and with his skills horned. He doesn't want to go "soft".

>>88126848

Yeah, but then he had exhausted all the possibilities and had to accept his new condition. He also had tons of help.

>>88125560
Which is stupid, because the doctor's been cloned before with no such drawback. In fact, his clone-daughter is still out there somewhere, just time-lording across the universe, and nobody ever seems to remember that shit.

In *double fact* whatever happened to his actual granddaughter from the original series? I mostly watched the Baker era, but I distinctly remember the first doctor having a granddaughter following him around.

>>88126897
That's a little silly when you're fighting planetary threats.

Plot armor will save him, or course. But that's kind of like going to war without a helmet because you don't want to go "soft".

>>88122249
>Yeah, we sure showed him.
>What a coward
>Hey, what's that coming toward us?

>>88125610
>>88125731
Well, except that one has probably used time travel shenanigans to have existed for many times as long as the universe has, in linear time. The guardians are masters of space and emotion, but they ain't got shit on the Time Lords for time-fuckery.

>>88126872
>Kylefags being delusional
business as usual I see

>>88126934

>That's a little silly when you're fighting planetary threats.

Batman's fucked in the head. He places a lot of expectations on himself and he has a lot of complexes.

He'd fight a god naked if he thought it was something his ego needed.

>>88126852

>If anything, the sacrifice he made when he exposed himself to the kryptonite reservoir in Argus shows how strong his willpower is.

Self-sacrifice is easy, bro.

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Is Green a neutral color, because I never understood why there were not any evil Green lanterns? Would doing acts of evil take both willpower and overcoming fear of being killed or caught?

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>>88127014
>Self-sacrifice is easy, bro.

>>88127060

>Is Green a neutral color, because I never understood why there were not any evil Green lanterns?

Unh... Sinestro?

>>88127060
>why there were not any evil Green lanterns
well this was this dude named Sinestro once

>>88126932
>whatever happened to his actual granddaughter
She probably "died" on Galifrey with the rest of the Time Lords in the Time War with the Daleks (just before the 9th Doctor/modern series starts).

>>88127060
are you dumb

>>88127060
the Guardians will fuck you up if you go evil

see Sinestro

>>88127092
but the Doctor didn't actually kill Gallifrey

>>88127084
>>88127087
>>88127094
>>88127096
Who became Yellow and dropped the green color ring.

>>88127014
Bathing in a material that breaks down his molecular structure and causes tremendous pain from a distance is not. Specially since he had to accelerate the process to save Steve Trevor (If my memory doesn't fail, it's been months since I read that arc)

>>88127123
What's your point? He still turned into a dictator while he had a green ring

>>88127071
It's incredibly easy when you hate yourself.

>>88127123
he didn't give it up voluntarily, and got it back a few times

>>88127071

It is. You don't need to use willpower to jump in front of a moving car to save someone. Just a lot of compassion and a good dose of depression.

You use willpower when you're trying to take a really massive dump that's basically raping your asshole open. That's when willpower comes in.

>>88127084
>>88127087
>>88127096
>Sinestro
>evil
Go back to bed, Hal.

>>88126798
I kind of want to go into that red tornado one. If he did make a bunch of copies of himself, would they all be different looking to tell them apart? Would it be a hivemind or something?

>>88121592

What this anon said >>88124659.

I think it has to do with proximity AND I think that makes sense, it's basically giving the local population precedence in protecting them from whatever killed a Green Lantern.

>>88124034
She is more of a compassion kinda of gal like supers is for hope

>>88120837

Yeah, this. Making your entire city yellow isn't going to do shit against a guy who can cave in your skull with his pinky

>>88122017

Batman uses fear as a weapon. He isn't fit to be a Green Lantern.

>>88127060
Green was chosen because it used to be related to manhood. Being a man = willpower. Before, you know, recent societal considerations mucking shit up and making me saying this a no-no.

>>88127125

Man, that whole bit was pure character wanking. Superbro swim through a lake of kryptonite kills to save Wonder Woman's chump of an ex, killing himself, and later she goes to her godly brothers crying and begging on the top of her lungs for them to save the man she love, promising them anything.

>>88124738
>it's just that Johns is a hack.

More like Johns doesn't write him as Batgod and that pisses off his fanboys

Batman can't overcome his fears? How many times has he beaten Scarecrow?

>>88124567
This made me realize how much cooler it would be if Kyle was younger

If I was to become a GL, could I trade in the ring for something else, like a helmet, gaunlet, or a glove?. I hate jewelry with passion; always have for some strange reason.

>>88127265
he can overcome immediate fear, but he still clings to the fear he felt at his parents' death

>>88127195
What if one of them had an identity crisis? What if one of them turned evil? Would he freak out? Would he blame only the evil one or blame all of them?

>>88127280
Green Lanterns aren't real, anon.

>>88127265
That's fear v fear, anon.

>>88124659
>>88127197

Abin Sur's death was a special case.

Usually the ring only abandon a Green Lantern after the body is lifeless and cold, so the ring takes its time to search for the perfect candidate in that space sector.

Buuuut Abin Sur wanted his ring to go find a new candidate while he was still alive, because he wanted to pass a message to the new guy before dying. That's why Abin Sur's ring picked someone close and FAST.

>>88126932
>his clone-daughter

Not the same thing. She was assembled using his genetic code but was essentially a blank slate. The goo clone was supposed to be an exact copy of the Doctor

>>88122017
Elseworld.

Year Zero Bruce gets the ring instead of being inspired to become Batman. Turns out he is so god damn overpowered with the ring, the Guardians have to give rings to clark, dianna, etc. Green Lantern Bruce beats their asses.

>>88125416
WISE

>>88127292
Are any of us real anon?

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>>88127218

>She is more of a compassion kinda of gal

So what happens if one rejects the ring? What if Hal said no?

>>88127060
The green light was chosen because it was at the center of the spectrum, thus being the most stable

There is this GL called Mogo who is a sentient planet, he works as a "moral compass" to make sure the rings will only choose good guys so they won't need to deal with another Sinestro scenario

>>88126687
Literally how?

>>88127393
it finds somebody else I guess?

>>88127354

That's not "Year Zero", but the Elseworlds "Darkest Knight".

>>88127393
I don't think you can

but I would assume since the rings are advanced enough to detect whether someone is able to use it, they can detect whether someone is willing to use it

>>88127380
meh, either compassion or love, Barry and Clark get hope

>>88127430
pretty sure you can, IIRC Simon willingly decided to use his ring so he could escape from the prison cell

>>88127320
>Usually the ring only abandon a Green Lantern after the body is lifeless and cold

A lot of the lanterns got their rings passed on to them by living people actually. Sinestro just happened to kill his after he got the ring and Arkkis Chummuck ate his after he got the ring. Hal had two dying people give him a ring. It's really only in the Johns era that Lanterns even died at all so much. Used to be you just retired and passed a ring to an apprentice.

>>88127433

She isn't really good at loving people as well.

>>88127457
Simon's ring was weird

>>88127393
I'm pretty sure it just fucks off to the next best guy in the area.

>>88127459

Yeah, i'm reminded that Arisia's dad was a Green Lantern and left his ring for her, which was something super important and celebrated.

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>>88127462
that's like her whole thing

>>88127496
yeah her family was a line of GLs iirc

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So Emerald Twilight did happen on Smallville.

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RIP

>>88127427
it was a year zero like bruce.

he had basically gone out as just a guy and failed. then sitting in his mansion, instead of seeing a bat fly into his room, he gets picked by Abin Sur.

>>88127501

When you love everyone, you love no one. You dumb whore.

>>88127501
Wish she'd fucking figure out how, then. Most of the time she's shown tying up men and letting them getting decked or acting like a prissy bitch in cartoons.

>>88127510
it says Parallax possessed a Guardian, not a GL though

>>88126872
How is his face a different shape behind every mask? That's his real superpower.

>>88127522
what does that even mean

>>88127510
>>88127520
well fuck that

>>88126798

>tfw no Red Tornado adaptation where he's actually just an octillion or so foglets that developed an emergent AI

>>88127527
>Most of the time she's shown tying up men and letting them getting decked
you mean exactly once?

>>88127510
>>88127520

I like the hard light based uniforms that look like armor.

>>88127535
What does, "I love. Everyone." Even mean? Same semantics and both empty of meaning. One exists, however, to remind you that sophistry is shallow.

>>88127564
>Helped overthrow a male god to institute a female one.
Yeah, sure. Only once. It's not totally a contrivance that's occurring over and over and over again.

>>88127337
How is that different? She was a clone using his, and only his, genetic material. She isn't a blank slate at all, her personality is exactly like the 10th Doctor's, and there's no reason to suspect that she isn't a clone encompassing all of his previous incarnations either. She looks different, but so does he.

>>88127522
Get out of here, Syndrome.

>>88127354
They didn't even beat his ass either did they? They just came down to the Lantern cave only to see Sinestro with a star sapphire Carol, I think a yellow lantern Two Face, and Alfred as a hostage. They beat the absolute shit out of them because they have powers and when Bat lantern comes, they ask him to train them and he just leaves to find and kill sinestro.

List of superheroes that both violate their no kill rules and have complete mental breakdowns as a result
1. Superman
2.

>>88127393
It would have gone to Guy then. Salaak said theres only three ways to get away from the corps, path of honor which is to die, path of dishonor which is to voluntarily leave or path of the fool which is both.

>>88127638
Might Man of Murder murder the Man of Murder meme?

>>88127587
I don't know what you're referring to tee bee aitch

>>88120747

this reminds me, what happened to sodom yat?

also that name is very unfortunate

>>88127686
well his name is Sodam, so it's not AS bad

>>88127657
>Man of Murder
I was actually talking about when comics Superman originally killed Zod and then went so bonkers he had to get a dude off death row to cope with what he did.

>>88127686
he got stuck in Daxam's sun didn't he? he showed up in new 52 GLC without a ring later though I think

>>88125416

dafuq? didnt daffy have a green lantern ring?

>>88127725

He stopped being a GL and decided to help Daxam get its shit together.

>>88127729
no no, that was Duck Dodgers

>>88127724
I was actually just making a joke. But your response just makes it funnier.

>>88127520
I've always been curious about this; wasn't the whole Parallax thing a retcon? I thought Hal went crazy somehow and then Johns(?) wanted to save the character, so he decided that he'd been possessed the whole time. What was the story before that decision? I've never been a big GL reader, so I've only heard the rough outlines of what happened.

>>88127810
Hal's hometown blows up and Hal goes fucking crazy, he attacks a bunch of other GLs for their rings, kills Kilowog and Sinestro then absorbs all the energy from the central green power battery leaving the corps defunct and himself extremely powerful. he starts calling himself Parallax when he tries to reboot reality

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Poor Saint I wish they have continued the comic.

>>88127810
the original story was he had a mental breakdown after Coast City was destroyed by Robot Superman, and wanted to bring it back

to do this killed a bunch of Green Lanterns and stole their rings, then used that power to drain the Central Power Battery, which caused him to become the massively powerful villain Parallax

the Johns retcon simply added in that an entity of pure fear that was trapped in the Central Power Battery latched onto his soul when he drained the battery

>>88127354
What disgusting wank.

>>88127747
Wouldnt he die since he has lead poisoning and without the ring it'll spread ?

>>88127879
that is pretty much what Elseworlds are

>>88127845
That was my basic understanding, I guess I just don't get why he would do any of that? I'd heard the retcon referred to derisively, but it sounds like it actually makes more sense than Hal just suddenly going full retard.

>>88127915
PTSD fucks you up

>>88127915
>I guess I just don't get why he would do any of that
You mean why Hal would go crazy and try to restart the universe in an attempt to fix everything?

Because DC wanted a sales boost so they picked the most expendable big hero and fucked him over

Keep in mind this came right on the tail of Death of Superman and Knightfall, it was somewhat more permanent than those two

Johns' retcon made it so that Parallax was slowly feeding fear into Hal so when he totally snapped Parallax could take over

>>88127951
>>88127965

Is this a gay thing?

>>88127994
No

>>88127686
He got sodomized by Superboy and never recovered

>>88127878
>Bluebird/lantern Barbara
I am confused

>>88128057
Smallville got weird

>>88128057
She is Nightwing since, dick did, not exist in this universe Saint walker gets killed by a manhunter

>>88128005

It looks like a gay thing. Why would Barbara set up a date between Bruce and Dick in the middle of the night when Bruce never met Dick before?

>>88121592
Each sector has trillions of inhabited worlds.

except 666 because killer robots really fucked that one up.

>>88122017
In the canon appearances, Batman is apparently very shit at using a power ring. Green Arrow too,

In the early Johns series they said using a power ring is like passing a kidney stone. You have to have a shitload of brain power to make it work right.


Then again lately they pass those things around like candy in each event so who knows.

>>88127981
I guess in that context it does make a sort of sense. I didn't read death of superman until years later, but Knightfall was practically my introduction to comics.

So considering the entire universe is only split up into a few thousand sectors, how fast are GL rings capable of going with their wearers to get from point A to point B?

>>88128129

Batman managed to control Hal's ring with Hal's help, but he have the ring back because Batman wasn't ready to let the past go and embrace his wishes.

Then a Sinestro ring found him, but since the ring detected that he had a GL's ring radiation in his body the Sinestro's ring left.

>>88128129
Batman had to face his inner demons (which, you know, he can't) every time he wanted a construct. With Green Lantern it wiped him out mentally. I'm guessing a combination of the two would be needed (you know, actualized willpower and not a second-hand version).

>>88126966
Guardians outlawed time fuckery as their first act.

>>88128185

Batman's constantly facing his inner demons. That's his favorite past time. He's constantly self torturing with reminders of his tragedy of a life. The dude uses the time of death of his parents as his password for everything, That shit is morbid as fuck.

>>88128156
pretty fast

>>88128156
they can go faster than sound (not sure about FTL) and they use wormholes to get places faster

>>88128079
but>>88127965

explain.

>>88128233
Which is pretty much why he can't properly use a Green lantern ring.

>>88128233
he faces them, but he uses them as fuel instead of overcoming them

>>88128254

It's a gay thing.

>>88128229
The question was about a crossover though, and you can't have Time Lords without time fuckery. Guardians get BTFO

>>88128254
Dick didn't get introduced until, comic concluded, Female nightwing was mean, to be steph but DC editorial sayd no.

Dan DiDio’s reasoning for the change was “If we’re going to introduce a character into the Smallville world, I want them to be the most iconic versions like Barbara Gordon or Dick Grayson, and maybe down the road we can do more.”

>>88128079
>She is Nightwing
No, she is fucking Bluebird.

Literally just Harper with a dye job.

>>88128344
She actually predates Harper by a few, years 2011.

>>88127060
>>88127084
>>88127094
>>88127123

Malvolio used a regular power ring to be an asshole. Then he figured out how to use the green light without one.

Power ring uses a green ring to be a dick too.

Couple incarnations of Volthoom was a real bastard as well.

And the last guy to use Alan's ring a few centuries before him attacked China for the lols

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>>88124592
>mfw I thought those were Stands for a second

>>88127915
I don't get why the Guardians would not just turn his ring off and take it from his finger like they did Sinestro. They just whipped the ring right off him and he was banished within the hour.


Hal gets pissed and there is nothing anyone can doo.....

>>88122017
Honestly the ring thing never made much sense to me.
Especially the Hope ones, when they do those "every JL member gets a ring" moments they always feel all over the place.

>>88127981
By that time they already replaced everyone. Hal was just next.

They killed Superman, replaced Batman with John Paul, replaced Wonderwoman with Artemas, replaced Flash with Wally, replaced Hawkman with Zauriel, turned Aquaman into Beardy Hookhand,

90's were another attempt at replacing all the heroes with newer models. Like they did in the 60's.

>>88128572
Wally had been Flash for nearly a decade by that point, though

>>88128233
>>88128265
Sinestro says Batman cannot get a ring to work because he is supposed to give in and let the ring take him over, and Batman does nothing but resist it completely and try to be the one in charge.

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>>88127915
Because the editor at the time, Kevin Dooley, wanted GL to go through something similar to Knightfall and Death and Return of Superman to boost sales. So he kicks out Gerard Jones before the end of his run which would've had the return of the Corps fully rather than just the 30+ they had and instead got Ron Marz to write Emerald Twilight. Originally it was going to be 6 issues but got rushed to only 3 issues in 2 months so it would hit issue 50 as the finale. So instead of seeing Hal go through stages of grief as his world breaks down, he goes completely bonkers after a Guardian tells him to nut up.

Hal goes through a lot of character development over the years after becoming Parallax and later dying/becoming the Spectre, but Geoff Johns wanted to wipe the slate clean so we get a bug made of fear somehow possessed him and stuck with him after he died and became the Spectre. So Hal officially Did Nothing Wrong™ and it makes Emerald Twilight look even stupider in retrospect.

>>88128572
more like 6 years

But the point is they were replacing each and every major hero in the 90's.

>>88120747

Just stopping by to say Smallville season 11 was fucking great.

>>88128630
Why did Marz have such a hardon for making Kyle's life suck so much and have him appear as the constant loser?

Even when he left the series and the next few writers made Kyle's life get better, Marx came back for a few issues and undid all of it and made him the Charlie Brown of the JLA all over again.

>>88127380
>using the nu-shitty-too version as an example
Why not just use an elseworlds while you're at it?

The more stupid you are the better you can use a power ring.
That's why Hal is the GREATEST GREEN LANTERN THAT EVER LIVED™

>>88128496
is that a jojo reference?

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>>88128658
In the beginning I don't know why, I guess he just wanted to emulate the Parker Luck type thing, but went a little too far with it. Later on though that was mostly the fault of Raab. He's the one who had the infamous Jade cheating on Kyle thing that Marz later had the confrontation for. Honestly, I think Winick had the best run for Kyle. He got shit done, grew up, got respect and hung out with Wally/Connor more and was banging hot green pussy. Then Raab came and ruined it.

>>88127268

That doesn't really say much considering you can't get much less cool than Kyle.

>>88128774
you know I can't see that third panel without thinking of that one Dobson comic

>>88128814
He's so uncool he can't even look cool standing in front of an open fridge, amirite?

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>>88128737
It's pretty much unwritten canon that Hal is just too dense to comprehend fear, and that was good enough for the ring to chose him out of immediate convenience.

>>88128774
It is baffling to me that Arisia and Hal's pedophile adventure is still part of canon. I would think that somewhere along the line that would have been blasted from continuity.

>>88128572
yeah but Superman and Batman obviously weren't going to stay gone

and none of those fucked anybody over as much as Hal did, at least they all got to stay heroes

>>88128630
to give an idea of how last minute Emerald Twilight was, there were actually solicits (that are shown three months in advance) for issues of GL 48 and 49 written by Jones

>>88129026
instead of nuking the whole thing from continuity like they should have done they just removed the aging herself up thing from continuity and made it so Arisia was always an adult (although still very young) and it was still stupid

>>88124299
Not since he already lost friends, and it was his fault. He's already faced his worst fear, and overcome it.

>>88124262
>A person that experiences a wide range of deep emotions
How could the rings have ever accounted for such an anomoly

>>88128720
nu52 is the only wonder woman now. This new wave of material the movies will bring will all be based on this interpretation.

Compassionate Diana is gone anon. She is the elseworlds now.

Just because he's the stongest being in the quadrant and has a heart of gold doesn't mean he's wise or has a stong will. On an off day Superman can be trolled into a localized rage at what ever poor sap of a villain got his goat.

the main problem is that there is nothing special about Hal or Jhon so the fact that they can use a ring while others can't just makes no sense

>>88129337
That typo almost made me rage out because I like Martian Manhunter

>>88129364
but that's J'onn

>>88129388
Oh yeah, the H is in the 2nd Jon
That's a sign I should go to bed, i forget how to spell gibberish nerd words I should have memorized.

>>88129337
>there is nothing special about Hal or Jhon
the willpower is what makes them special

>>88128774
I liked Winnick's run, Kyle did do things well and actually evolved as a character. Even finally got a nemesis.

But yea the second he left the character did a complete U Turn back to being the worst loser in DC.

>>88129029
I think they assumed Hal was third rate and replaceable enough to make into a villain and few people would give a shit. There are already lots of lanterns, what's a new one.

But the mandate to only have a single lantern and nothing else, while spending years of teasing a return of the corps, only to make it a dream or a villain plot over and over again just angered fans after a while.

>>88130167
Judging by HEAT a bunch of people cared

>>88120747
I remember buying a comic at a local grocery store that had Superman as a GL. But then at the end it was all a simulation by Jor-El showing what would happen if he sent Kal-El to Oa?

I never knew the context because I was like 10 or so and that was the first and last time I saw any place in my area selling comics.

>>88120782
>overcoming

That was the movie.

>>88124726
I understand this reference

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>>88130245
???

Holding yourself back 24/7 is exactly a supreme act of will.

>>88129303
Wut?

What superman comics have you guys been reading? Dude can bench press mountains and manages to sit in an office all day taking orders from people. What exactly do you think "will" is?

>>88125610
They'd probably say some bullshit like they're both offshoots of the same race so technically they're equally old.

>>88126386
I'd say it depends on how you look at it. I mean think about how much power Superman has. Wouldn't it take a lot of will to restrain it constantly? If he didn't restrain it even something as simple as walking could break a city or even worse.

>>88125591
Good God the fucking guardians are so Damn idiotic. Honestly the whole GL corps is a mess, with so much shady shit going on. The universe of being protected by just Superman than an those blue headed Fucks

>le Green Lanterns have more will than any other heroes!!

not a surprise since the people that like GL have an incredible superiority complex toward other heroes

>>88130287
I'm pretty sure they just added that shit after they decided paralax was a thing. I stopped giving a shit about the gl stuff well before Hal went all crazy, but don't remember them having to overcome shit.

>>88125591
No they didn't, they wanted him to save Krypton and sent him to get Stellarum to stop the planet from blowing up. A supernova blew up though and blinded/knocked him unconscious and he never made it to Krypton on time.

>>88127195
>Would it be a hivemind or something?

Makes me think of Mainframe from MC2.

>>88122249
If the ring is vulnerable to yellow, how's it going to stop yellow sun radiation?

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>>88130489
nope

although the ring didn't specifically say it, the ability to overcome great fear was always a criteria

So what happens if you slap Daredevil with a Green Lantern Ring?

How badly would it go anyway?

>>88127280
Unless you were of a species that needed some special accommodations just to hold and use the thing you'd be stuck with the ring because that's part of the uniform.

>>88127605
I would imagine the goo clone also had memories implanted in its head while the daughter did not. Also their methods of cloning were pretty different.

>>88127510
>>88127520
While I kinda like the hardlight look of the armor, that seems like a waste of energy if they're not in combat.

does this mean fear toxin wouldn't work on a green lantern?

>>88124464
wouldn't that costume expose her mark?

>>88129026
>Arisia and Hal's pedophile adventure

Could you explain this to someone that does not read GL regularly please? Like is that the girl I heard about where her age is listed as something like 10 but because of the time it takes her planet to rotate around its sun she's still the equivalent of an adult human or someone else?

>>88130844
she was 13 and used the ring to age her body up when Hal was like "what the fuck you're only 13" and then he just rolled with it

>>88127638
>>88127657
>>88120747
superman is in fear of his own power. He wouldn't be able to use the ring.

>>88130695
I would imagine if a GL had that aura of energy around them it would not allow them to even breath in the gas in the first place.

>>88130565
You get Rot Lop Fan, who recently got a double-page spread being a badass.

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>>88130844
>>88130872
Hal and Arisia had a little sister loves big brother oniichan thing going on while Hal wanted nothing to do with it because he obviously thought she was too young. After the Crisis she started subconsciously altering her body and mind to age itself up because she wanted Hal's dick that bad. Black Hand trapped the two of them in a ditch with no ring charge and Arisia started making advances on Hal with some bedroom eyes and seeing as how they thought they were gonna die, Hal went with it.

>>88130695
It would, as part of something larger. Batman included fear gas in his plan to break Hal Jordan.

>>88120747
Because Superman is stuffed full of yellow light from the sun, as he's just a cosmic yellow sun light battery. Green ring didn't want to go near that shit.

>>88131450
What if Superman fully charged up while in space?

>>88121444
Why would they care? If you aren't one of Earth's 512 green lanterns, then you are a Green Lantern for an entire SECTOR of space. Most sectors have multiple worlds in habited by tool using sentient races. So there's no reason to skip over Clark Kent, Kryptonian and wardling of the Kents, just because he is different from the local humans.

Heck, the ring could just as likely select a whale, pig, dolphin, cow, raccoon, or large rat as a human. Or even the planet itself. Lantern rings aren't exactly sensible in who they pick.

>>88131498
Krypton isn't in 2814, there ya go

>>88124511
Why is Guy Gardner with One Punch Man and the Pointy Haired Boss from Dilbert?

>>88124522
It couldn't catch up to him.

>>88121592
That rule would still apply if Krypton isn't in Sector 2814.

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>>88130443
Is it any wonder he stayed "Honorary"

>>88125517
I would have thought that Usop should have been Yellow.

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>>88122017
Batman lets his fear fester, and turns it on others. He's a perfect candidate for a ring, but not a green one.

>>88131628
Are you retarded? Yellow is the ability to instil great fear. Yellow means you're a scary motherfucker, not that you're a scaredy cat.

>>88131628
Usopp is all about overcoming great fear, since he has so much fear to overcome.

>>88127092
But the Doctor didn't kill everyone. What he did was to create a pocket universe that is just missing Galifrey and the Daleks (for the most part) and lock himself away from the rest of existence in his own little "safe space".

>>88120747
Because superman is ablue lantern.

>>88131730
literally every hero should be a blue lantern

>inb4 the justice league isn't a symbol of hope

>>88126687
Samus is a genetically engineered superweapon, the warrior will of a dead race of godlike birds made manifest
But yeah she might be susceptible to a red ring

>>88130796
She covers it by leaning and long hair then.

>>88127414
She's a nigh-emotionless, sadistic bounty hunter.

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>>88131652

>Batman is so famous even Aliens have heard of him and his name ended up on the Sinestro Corps database of potential hires

>>88124607
>That's why Batman's constantly feeling guilty about everything. Dude cares and feels too much. He just doesn't show or doesn't know how to express.
so he's autistic?

>>88130494
They totally set up that supernova

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>>88133598
She's not sadistic, just merciless against her sworn enemies, the space pirates.

>>88133887
THOSE DIRTY DIRTY SPACE PIRATES

AND THEIR TUBES!

Also it's never Samus' fault that the planets get destroyed when she's done... Assholes always seem to self destruct when she wins.

>>88131541
Those are the three Stooges, give it a watch and have some laughs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfGWPpPy0uw

>>88133647

Yes, actually. Bruce was even fucking weird as a kid.

>>88120747
Superman's responsible, well-meaning, hard working, and morally up right, but he's not brave. By the scales of 99% of beings within his home sector, he is, without exaggeration, as unto a god. That he would fight without powers does stand to reason that he should get a ring at some point, but Hal usually gets his ring well before superman's gone through any such ordeal. As such, at the time, superman has yet to exercise or experience true courage, and therefore would not ping on the ring's brave-dar.

>>88125956
>>88125041
He was captured and experimented on by the Durlans, the GLC rescued him and then... he just didn't do anything else. I guess he hasn't been a GL since, or he'd have gone to the other universe with the rest of the GLC.

Or maybe he did and died there. Who knows.

>>88124147
There's this one, though it has Superman

>>88136096
Good work not forgetting your image

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>>88136177
Blimey

Krytpon was in Sector 2813.

Abin Sur was Section 2814.

Even if Clark was closer, he doesn't count as he is not a native of the sector and 2813 at the time already had a green lantern.

After Baz and Jessica the writers don't really take the rules into account when choosing new lanterns

>>88134742
>he's not brave.

How do you guys get this? Even at times when various incarnations of Superman has been shown as temporarily powerless he's never once hesitated to put his life on the line like he does almost every single day as Superman.

Yes. He's like a god here. But he spends his days fighting other people with similar levels of power. He's "like a god" but never even hesitates when it's time to punch a real god in the face if he has to.

Tell us where you guys are reading all these stories about how superman shirks from dangerous *to him* activities. Tell us one time when someone tells him "this will kill you" and he ever says "Oh, shit, really? Welp, I'm out."

What superman stories are you guys reading?

>>88126244
So Batman should be a Yellow Lantern?

>>88137397
If not the main universe Batman, at least ASBAR Batman should be one.
He basically says Lantern power is wasted on Hal and if he had a ring he would clean up this planet.