What made Marvel think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

comics have always pushed political agendas

>>88082644
Yeah, I agree that it's shitty for Marvel's CEO to be so public about his financial support of Trump.

>>88082682
>>88082703
Doesn't matter which side it goes. It's still retarded to purposefully alienate half of your potential customer base just because you think that your opinion somehow matters more simply because you write for a fucking comic.

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>>88082644

Comics have always lean left, but alongside the political zeitgeist in the western world it got kicked up a couple of notches. To the point of being unbearable in certain issues.

Marvel being the prime offender. They are trying to court a different audience because of social sites like Tumblr and twitter makes it seem young kids and young adults, who are more to the left than Stalin, is a massive untapped market.

So they hire writers who push those ideals, and sometimes very hard.

That's my take on it. Anyone have a different view on the matter?

>>88082725

If the comics are good a political agenda doesn't matter. I read and enjoy tons of stuff that expresses views contrary to my own but which I still enjoy. Same with all media.

Current Marvel is just shit in general. Being politically charged is incidental, not the cause.

>>88082644
It's all about public image. Marlel wants to be more known among the lowest common denominator so they opt for the easiest option: clickbait

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>>88082682
This the only difference now is it's politics you're aware of/are fresh enough that you actually have an opinion on them. Nobody cares about commentary of events in the 70s, that shit was the 70s. Nobody cares about beating up Nazis because that's just history to us.
Also twitter doesn't help.

>>88082750
>comics have always lean left

What is golden age?
What is silver age?

>>88082644
A little something called The first amendment.

>>88082750
That's some pretty high-grade cringe on that page and I can tell it must be not particularly high for that piece.

>>88082765
> If the comics are good a political agenda doesn't matter.

I don't even think even the best comic in the world could be saved if the agenda was like 'kill all women' per example.

>>88082644
it's the same as comedy, people go to a show and expect jokes, instead they get this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Js3UcZz6VZI

they weren't booing her because she's black or even that they were trump supporters, they booed her because they didnt pay money to be harangued, same goes with comics. if I want current events I watch the fucking news.

>>88082785
>What is the golden age?
A period of left leaning in comic books

>What is the silver age?
A period of "family values" veneer enforced by the CCA.

>>88082682
This. Fucking Conservatards and /pol/acks need to fuck off

>>88082777
Is this some sort of joke?

Was Power Girl shit until the godly Connor/Palmioti/Grey days?

>>88082798

OP didn't say anything about government censorship.

>>88082725
Marvel Comics have always been left leaning. Fuck off conservatards.

>>88082777
fucking this

remember when Cap hung up the flag and became Nomad because Nixon was part of hydra

>>88082815

>Le /pol/ boogeyman whoooo

>>88082832
You seem pretty angry for no reason.

> voting is a bad thing

ohhh anon

>>88082838
If you don't know that comics have always been left-leaning than you're a casual.

>>88082805

Aye, but we're not seeing such extremes here. Just standard naive lefty stuff.

>>88082806
Is this the only video of this? If not why use the one with the cuckold filming?

>>88082644
It's not their politics, they just like to tick people off for the notoriety.

>>88082876
That's a bad market business btw.

>>88082725
>alienate half of your potential customer base
that would imply that the tumblr crowd buy comics

>>88082750
If that is the fantastic 4 human torch then her speech is already bullshit, and cyclops there means that Jean and Storm are also around

>>88082644

You people are the biggest fucking crybabies possible. Every single time someone says something that violates your safespace, you get so triggered that you complain about it for days on end. Every possible person has to agree with your agenda, and if anyone dares to say that LGBT people, Muslims, Hispanics and blacks deserve the same rights and dignity as everyone else, then you lose your shit.

Tell me, you precious fucking snowflake, would you prefer if Marvel pushed YOUR politics? If they jammed in your regressive, anti-intellectual, pro-authoritarian lunacy into comics, would you feel less threatened? Don't worry, sunshine, I'm sure someone will give you a hug at some time and tell you that your feelings are more important than education, democracy and enfranchisement.

>>88082867
Says the idiot who's generalising 80 years of a medium into [preferred pronoun]'s ideology

>>88082860
Because I'm sick of those groups of people coming here and shitposting threads like this. It'd be more bearable if they at least did some research but they're all just /pol/ MCUfags

>>88082876
Yeah, pretty much. Idiots like OP don't see how this all a cynical rebranding as being the progressive alternative to DC.

>>88082869

Didn't say it had, just pointing that yes a political agenda can ruin an otherwise good comic. Especially if it's against something you believe.

>>88082785
>What is golden age?
The period in which Batman went after actual businessmen and Superman beat the shit outta wifebeaters?

>>88082644
Captain America Comics #1

>>88082907
You should open a cinema with the amount of projecting you're doing.

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What made Marvel think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

>>88082892
>Implying the Right reads comics

Stop this meme. It's been said time and time again in this very thread. Comics have always been for the Left. The fucking X-Men is one big metaphor for Civil Rights. Kill yourself.

>>88082907

Please stop roleplaying as a tumblerite.

>>88082915
name a right-leaning series, arc, or plot and we can probably name twice as many that were left-leaning

hardmode: big 2 only

>>88082934
And wonder woman called Japs "little monkeys"

>>88082907
Nice copypasta.

Also see >>101030621
They are literally laughing at it.

>>88082927
>>88082929
Shut up you fucking crybabbies, they ruined Mrs.Marvel after applying political behaviour on them like every other marvel hero.

She became just another comic, that the difference is just the character because of that

>>88082950
He's objectively right. You faggots whine more than SJWs.

>>88082785

>What is the Golden Age?

You mean the point in time when comics rallied around the idea that we should beat the shit out of fascists, when Superman was a proponent of unions and labor, and Captain America literally punched Hitler in the face?

>What is the silver age?

You mean when censorship and a false family values concept was forced onto comics that made everyone toe a political line that no one was allowed to cross?

>>88082955
Literally all of the silver age superman, just for starters. Throw in Superman's girlfriend Lois lane and Superman's pal jimmy Olsen

>>88082960
> Shut up you fucking crybabbies

Huh why did you quote me anon? I simply pointed that an agenda can ruin a media.

>>88082915
Superman was a socialist strongman.
Wonder Woman is literally feminist propaganda.
Captain America is a new deal democrat.
X-men is about anti-racism.
Superhero Comics are lefty as fuck.

>>88082960
Except Carol Danvers has always been a symbol for feminism.

If you're talking about Kamala then it's pretty obvious you've never picked up her book.

>>88082937
>>88082960
>>88082950

>implying that it's copypasta

Also, why don't you actually try to address the shit that I said instead of continue to stay in your hugbox and refuse to grow the fuck up and realize that not everyone has to agree with you?

>>88082938
>Kraut with a tommy gun
What?

Didn't know how to draw a MP 40?

>>88082872
I'm pretty sure it is, it wasnt a tv show just a stage show

>>88082973

> He's

Stop roleplaying anon. You should have used less libtard jargon if you wanted to be taken serious.

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What made DC think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

>>88082984
How is SA Superman right-leaning?

>>88082995
Superheroes are literal fascists. Every single major 20th century critique has observed this

>>88082907
>If they jammed in your regressive, anti-intellectual, pro-authoritarian lunacy into comics

but I think the OP is anti-left wing

>>88083015
They did end up making fun of that, though.

>>88083019
>Superheroes are literal fascists.
Alan Moore pls go.

>>88082984
>an unmarried professional woman headlining her own title in 1958
>right-wing
funny joke

>>88083003

Because there is nothing to address, it's just the standard 'enlightened left of tolerance education and democracy everything nice' vs 'right of anti intellectuality, authoritarism and regress'. Basically people only say that when they are trolling or they are retarded.

>>88083017
Well, if you were willing to actually read silver age superman, you would know. If you want me to prove this then the image limit would exceed

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What made Wildstorm think that pushing their politics was a good idea?

>>88082725
You only need about 10% of potential customers to be successful. Trying to please everybody is a surefire way of watering your product down and not having strong support.

Also, why does everyone keep saying "half"?

>>88083019
>don't work for the government 99% of the time
>fascist
How stupid are you son?

>>88082919
>asking a legitimate question is shitposting
>not wanting to be preached to when you buy something is shitposting

k

>>88083003
I readed what you quote, and do you really think the Right-wing or /pol/acks don't have passed thorught any harrasment or any critic over their behaviour?

/pol/ for example is filled with clickbaiting Left Threads, always asking why X is wrong.
You should check their page even though you don't agree with them before writing shit.

>>88083007
probably didn't have references for it. it's not like image search was a thing.

>>88083027
Alan Moore has openly criticized superhero critique

Filthy casual.

>>88083038

Once again proving that whenever anyone challenges your safe space, you don't have any means or desire to actually address and meet on a level playing field.

>>88083019
>Superheroes are literal fascists.
People who say that literally do not know what fascism is.

>>88083053
>lefty calls anything that triggers him fascist
stop the presses!

>>88083050
nah. you're making the claim, you supply the evidence. otherwise, you're bullshitting.

my dad works for nintendo, I'd know.

>>88083056

Should I also go to Stormfront, so what they're talking about? Maybe I should go to a Klan rally and discuss their ideas over a domestic beer?

>>88083053
>doesn't understand fascism

How stupid are you?

>>88083019
You mean the critique of Watchmen and the horrendous critique of DKR that ignores the fact that Batman sets up a literal vigilante cult to fight crime outside the law? Because no other comics are ever even critiqued.

>>88082644
Trying to tap into a new market. Problem is they hired writers whose political views are not only childish but their attitude isn't much better which alienated a large amount of customers, hence the plummeting sales.

>>88083050
>I can easily prove my argument.
>but I won't.

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>>88083015
That whole series was pretty much the 70s edition of the stuff we whine about today. ALL THE POLITICS

>>88083092
>to see a page on the internet you must agreed with all their topics

Are you baiting me or are you really this close minded?

>>88083092
Yes, so you can understand them faggo

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>>88082804
>Dude, tampons.

>>88083105
Why should I bother arguing with people who don't even read comics?

Also, don't you have a bull to prep?

>>88083074

What playing field, what safe space? Throwing accusations like the standard 'you're a racist sexist homophobic blah blah' are basically non arguments. It's nothing but a whine. Stop talking like an idiot and then maybe people will take you serious.

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I still can't believe some of the shit Marvel has shat out in recent years.

>>88083092

Yes anon, opening the Stormfront site will suddenly turn you into a nazi.

>>88083099
I've read comics for a lot of different classes at university (usually English, once it was a Fine Arts elective). I've had to write papers on them and there are a lot more scholarly articles on comics than you might think.

>>88083119

Not being willing to address or dialogue with odious belief systems doesn't make me closeminded. It means that I value my time. Like, right now. I'm going to go to work and do something productive with my time. Maybe you should try it sometime, stop crying about how the horrible horrible SJWs are ruining your life by thinking that everyone in the world is basically the same as everyone else and deserves to be treated as such.

>>88083138
Looks like someone can't handle the bantz.

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Will he be a recurring villain?

Politics and progressive messages are not the issue, it's the hacky talentless, unsubtle creators that have no idea how to write that are the issue.

So business as usual I guess, 90% of superhero comics are badly written trash. Always have been.

>>88083054
It's not a legit question since comics have always been left leaning. Don't want to be "preached" to? Grow the fuck up and accept other viewpoints or don't go into a left leaning medium.

>>88082644
After the 2012 election there was a lot of talk about the new demographics of America and the idea that millennials were more diverse and more liberal than their parents.

So a lot of companies decided it was simply good business to be more openly liberal, because advertisers are more interested in young people than old people.

Plus big companies like to suck up to whoever's in power.

Now it turns out the political power of the new, diverse America wasn't as great as people thought it was, they'll try to backtrack a bit. I think they'd be doing that even if the election had turned out differently. Open politics was basically a fad like pouches.

>>88083062
He got the Luger right, although that is a much older gun and was sold in the US commercially.

>>88082644
Comics have been political since the 40s.

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Why do 4chan hate feminists, are you guys against equality or something?

>>88083175

> it was just bantz

gg

>>88083179
>president elect is assaulted by the spawn of Sam Wilson and Squirrel Girl

>>88083036
She spends almost every issue trying to trick superman into marrying her and drawing stupid conclusions over simple misunderstandings.

>>88083179
you mean recurring hero?

>>88082750
Does anyone have that twitter screencap of the comic shop owner, after going on about how awful his Marvel sales are, says that Marvel seems to think Tumblr and comic conventions are their audience?

>>88083171
>look at me I'm being productive
>he says while posting on an anonymous nigerian Craigslist fourm
OK buddy. Also you really should have no reason to scream about people if you are not going to listen to them, you fucking fag

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I know who the true villian in the world is and so do Marvel.

>>88083171
>Not being willing to address or dialogue with odious belief systems doesn't make me closeminded.

Yes it does, you're literally giving to yourself thoughts of what is forbitten knowledge.

> It means that I value my time.

You're on /co/ my dude.

>stop crying about how the horrible horrible SJWs are ruining your life by thinking that everyone in the world is basically the same as everyone else and deserves to be treated as such.

I'm not an american to feel treatened by SJWs, they are a minority here mostly because they thing bandits must also be protected agaisn't the cops but mostly can't realize that they are redistributing drugs to their own children around where i live.

The problem with Marvel isn't politics but how it wants a cookie for having couple titles with black leads. Doing the absolute bare minimum and fellating yourself is not an accomplishment Marvel.

>>88082817
Yes. Almost entirely garbage.

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There's a lot of white cis mansplaining going around in this thread.

>>88083189
Not really. Hillary was an unelectable meme candidate nobody wanted and didn't show up to vote for. She still won the popular vote by a large margin even if you did take out the illegal votes. If anything, things are going to go even more left to protest the Trump administration.

Like seriously go look at a map of the election. All the red is in places nobody lives in. The blue is where a high density of the population lives. Who's more likely to read comics? Michelle from Seattle or Cletus from bumfuck Kentucky?

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>>88083257
Agreed, they should push harder and see where it gets them.

>>88083189
Also a lot of writers and editors don't know they're being political. It's like with Trump, whatever you think of him, if you're in the entertainment business you probably don't know many people who like him (you don't know many conservatives, and the conservatives you do know dislike him). I don't think it really sunk in until November 8 that their view is held by half the country but not much more.

>>88083235
I have a friend that's so triggered by Miles because he's not Peter Parker. Yeah, never mind that Spider-Man is a mantle that anyone with Spider-Man-like powers can assume.

>>88083266
That is an awfully racist thing of you to say. Why are you assuming that everyone is white? Would it be racist if you said there is a lot of black cis mansplaining? Yes. So if it is racist with one why do you think it is ok to be racist to another group?

>>88083212
I don't know how that makes it right wing tho. It maybe a little sexist but it's still pretty liberal what with the single professional women angle.

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What did Marvel mean by this?

>>88083186
>b-b-b-but dey've always been left leaning!! trust me!
>there's nothing wrong with ham fisted and awful plots and dialogue because of that you dumb conservatard

You need to cut back on some of that mad you've got there.

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Top o' the marnin ter yer guys, what's 'eadin' on in dis thread?

>>88083303
>Nick Spencer knows Black America.
Seriously Marvel? You couldn't find anyone else to write Black Captain America?

>>88083278
Cletus from bumfuck Kentucky. Let me explain. Michelle from Seattle has a shit ton of entertainment at her disposal. Cletus from bumfuck Kentucky, not so much. There is probably a theatre and a local comic book shop and MAYBE a strip mall. If Cletus isn't into playing or watching the local high school sports odds are he ends up at the comic book shop.

>>88083235
Miles doesn't seem to agree there.

>>88083128
Didn't this kid just kill a cop and it was totally brushed off? Is the person who wrote the mockingbird comic some kind of sociopath

>>88083316
So Cap punching Hitler or Black Panther fighting the KKK isn't hamfisted?

>>88083297
It fits in with the right wing stereotype that a woman's endgame is to tie a man down and that all women make unwise choices based on little=le evidence. Also the man is always right and puts her in her place and she probably secretly likes to be put in her place,

>>88083353
Is it a real disagreement or is he being a silly duped minority who needs the wise liberal to show him the light?

>>88083363
Who said it wasn't?

Why is shitty dialogue and plot now excusable because 'but its always been left!" ? Explain that first.

>>88083296
>More white male tears and fragility

But whiteness is more a state of mind, or a societal position, than the color of your skill. Read a fucking social studies book once in a while.

http://racetraitor.org/abolishthepoint.html

>Whiteness is not a culture... Whiteness has nothing to do with culture and everything to do with social position. It is nothing but a reflection of privilege, and exists for no reason other than to defend it.

>>88083372
knowing nu-marvel, the latter

>>88083372
a rich white liberal?

Protip: everything about USA is right wing. Everything. So people who say this or that is left leaning don't know what they're talking about. You're welcome.

>>88083378
>http://racetraitor.org
See?

>>88083353
Why would he? His an oreo that puts a white man on a pedestal despite being superior in skill.

>>88083345
Not him but most comics are set in the big cities because the writers and potential readers know the big city. Cleatus can't really relate to the big city like that.

>>88083266
excuse me, did you just assume my race AND gender?

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>>88082682
>Cape comics have always pushed political agendas
FTFY
I don't think things like calvin and hobbes or the sonic the hedgehog archie comics ever tried to tell thier readers what party they should vote for. Stop trying to drag down the whole medium

>>88083375
But it isn't shitty. You're projecting that notion because it goes against your shit-tier beliefs Bubba.

>>88083378
>neologistic navel-gazing bullshit
I wonder why academia is largely mocked as useless.

>>88083418
>it isn't shitty

That's some serious projecting you've got going on there.

>>88083375
The problem with your argument is that you're saying liberal politics=shitty writing.

>>88083412
Show me on a map where Gotham is. You think that Cletus can't figure out a big building?

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Are you telling me Marvel is trying to draw parallels between the comics and real life?

>>88083417

You've literally never read Calvin and Hobbes.

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>comics have always been left leaning
If you say so...

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>>88083417

Ken Penders was pretty political, this is one of the reasons he was so hated.

>>88083435
That's not what was being said at all.

>>88083303
That Blacktain America doesn't have a moral leg to stand on and he knows it, but doesn't care.

>>88083378
>But blackness is more a state of mind, or a societal position, than the color of your skill.

Do you see how racist that is? Stop being a racist.

>>88082957
Nowadays she'd be telling the wimmen to make sucky-sucky.

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>>88083266
Isn't Iceman gay, as in 100% gay, or did the axis event also turn that around?

>>88083437
Cletus doesn't read for fun anon, He goes out drinking and hunting for fun.

>>88083466
Me thinks you have spent to much time in the city and not enough time in the small towns.

>>88083437
Not him but you missed the point of his post.

>>88083438

t. superhero who can take down criminals with ease

>>88083452
That's exactly what's being said. Anon is blaming liberal ideas for shitty writing.

>>88083137
mmmhmmm

bullshit

As much as /co/ is tumblr and goddamn it is and I'm kind of sick of it, it wouldn't come up outside of like, /sug/ if you people weren't always bitching about it and taking the bait.

Equal and opposite reactions. If you weren't always complaining about how shit like Kamala bothers you, her threads would be limited to a storytime once a month. You guys are just breeding controversy and thiniking you've won when in reality all it does is bump up sales of Mockingbird and create a dozen more "journalism' articles for you to chimp out over.

Even /v/ as slowly but surely learned this lesson and let the Sarkeesians of the world shadow box themselves into irrelevancy but I guess we're collectively even dumber and it's a damn shame.

>>88083466
>Implying Cletus can even read

>>88083466
You're quite the bigot and classist.

>>88082817
Considering that's obviously from the Giffen/DeMatteis JL stuff, yes.

>>88083500
Point it out then instead of making a strawman to flail about impotently against.

>>88083457
Thanks to societal structures that oppresses minorities I can't be racist, it's literally an impossibility.

The fact that you don't understand this simple fucking point is not my, or anyone who's black's, problem.

There's a legititmate reason why people tell white guys on the internet to check their privileges.

>>88083437
>Show me on a map where Gotham is.
It's on my other computer but Gotham is in New Jersey. Supposedly around Camden.

>>88083489
Nah I get his point just fine. Somehow people from BFE can't figure out scenery. Yet for some reason people can.

>>88083480
Me thinks not cause I live in rural america anon. I know cletus, cletus is a friend of mine, he doesn't really read a lot and when he does it's not superhero comics. The nearest comic book store is twenty miles from bumfuck.

>>88083446
I mean I don't think there was a political faction who was ready to go to the mat for japanese-americans. WWII made us a bit crazy

>>88083508
>/co/mblr meme

We just have the least amount of underages who frequent here just like /vp/. There's just more maturity. /pol/, /v/, and /b/ houses the most underages and this you get endless shitposts about "lol niggers" and the like.

>>88082644
The problem isn't they're political, all media has some kind of message and opinion on somthing, if you deny that you're retarded. The problem is that new Marvel does it in very hamfisted and condescending way. It insults readers' intelligence.

>>88083019
Kys.

>>88083437
Gotham isn't a real place but it's based on chicago, iirc. you know, Chicago. The third highest population city in the entire USA. You think someone from the sticks can wrap their head around that concept when most people from all over the country can't?

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>>88083536
>Can't be racist because society.

You should look up the definition of racism. Pay attention to the part of saying someone has it better because of their race.

>>88083512
You don't really know rural America if you think they read comic books for fun.

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>>88083574
Naw.

>>88083541
No you fuck. Culture in the city is different from rural America.

Actually Cletus should read some comics so he can be inspired to move to the city and not live like a subhuman.>>88083556

>>88083464
A telepath invading your mind to and forcing constant homosexual thoughts doesn't make you gay

>>88083536
I like your mindset because it means I can hate white women and not be sexist.

>>88083616
That last link was a mistake.

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>>88083571

> having political positions I don't agree with means you are immature

>>88083571
>/co/
>mature
c'mon, anon, c'mon

>>88083536
your societal structures mean jackshit outside burgerland, negro de mierda

>>88083618
That sounds like a really good invade comic plot

>>88083597
Keep making fun of the proletariat. Bourgeois like yourself will find out soon enough just how wrong you are.

>>88083441
But I have read it, just not all of them.

Political ideologies in general died with the advent of the hashtag.

>>88083593
>You should look up the definition of racism.

You should look up social studies. You're just as much a climate denier that denies reality just because you don't like what science says about the real world.

For example; patriarchy isn't a cabal but everything wrong with society that puts weight on male issues such as competition, war, indifference to suffering and inequality.

>>88082750
>Comics have always lean left
that is a lie

they were mostly left but also had conservative opinions every now and then

it´s only recently that they stated to go ultra left as in white, straight men hating and to openly repeat leftwing propaganda word for word as in the wage gap lie or white privilege

>>88083536
>thanks to me changing the definition of the word, I can't be racist

wowie

>>88083651
That prolaterate elected the biggest Bourgeois in existence to be president. Think about that.

>>88083629
You are though, it two different things. Although you can be racist towards that demograchic you can be sexist since men have always, and still largely do even in the west, oppressed us.

Even black men can be sexist towards white women, they can't be racist, but sexist sure.I don't understand how this is so hard to grasp.

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>>88083536
>can't be racist because of definitions.

>>88083651
Me and my bourgeois friends will be fine anon, really it's your prolaterate ass that should be worried.

>>88083683
>"They were MOSTLY Left but had some Conservative opinions!"

You mean like now? Why are you inbreds so stupid?

>>88083696
Words' meaning change, buddy. Literal has come to mean the exact opposite. Not my fault you fight a pointless fight against progress.

>>88083637
no where on 4chan is mature except *maybe* /an/ but I'd cop to a relative scale

>>88083700
Don't worry, everything will work out once they got those factory jobs back.

>>88083740
Hes getting all them (You)s either way

>>88082644
>when Ike used extremely high level tactics to get people to vote for Trump by annoying them with propoganda for the other side

OUTPLAYED!

>>88083733
Nope. It's only white women. I have no problem with any other kind. Specifically because they have privilege based on their race and deny it because of their gender.


Don't get mad just because I found a loophole in the stack.

>>88082682
While you are correct, they fall in two categories:
- The political pushing exists as the point.
- The political commentary exists as a part of something bigger

Current marvel for the most part sits in the first one, while older marvel falls on both depending of how hacky the writer is being at the time period.

>>88083733
Because the idea that it's only an -ism when pushed through a power structure and a black man doesn't have more power than a white woman in this scenario therefore he can't be sexist because she holds the power.

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>>88083801

> tfw that was his plan all along

>>88083606
>That man don't speak for me, and Captain America is supposed to represent ALL of us.
Is this seriously supposed to be a detestable strawman? He's way too reasonable.

>>88082644
Israelis control most of the media in the US, including the comic book industry.

In the West, the Israelis use the media to push for multiculturalism and promote race mixing propaganda. However, in Israel, they do DNA tests on immigrants to prove they are Jewish enough to be granted citizenship, they've built a wall to keep illegals out, and it is even illegal for Jews to marry non-Jews.

It is not "politics". It is a genocidal agenda.

>>88083678
I can't tell if this is b8, or freshman liberal arts major.

>>88083632
You're a mistake.

>>88083097
Maybe you don't? It's authoritarian, which means there has to be an authority enforcing things, which is the opposite of a vigilante.

>>88082644
What happened to make Americans such fucking big pussies that they get triggered by "agendas"? I swear, its only you Americans that go on this huge pissy little rants thinking you're all smug debating the dumbest shit ever. All these victories over absolute fucking non-issues you losers keep taking pride in would be hilarious if it wasn't so pathetic.

>>88083700
You know nothing of the struggle or even who the bourgeois is. Hillary won the popular vote!

>>88083331
go write a story about an irish vietnam vet getting his dick cut off, I'm sure Steve Di-oh wait

>>88083798
I don't know if he is just trolling or actually believes this shit. This place is called /co/mblr for a reason, this is probably the most tumblr like board ever.

>>88083834
I never understood it. What do the Jews profit in pushing multiculturalism and diversity? I would ask /pol/, but I am Latino and they would probably shitpost me to death.

>>88083904

I'm a BR and I normally post there. Spain posters do too.

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>>88083796
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

Well, this'll be an interesting foir years to say the least.

>>88083536
No, minorities cannot commit systematic racism. If a minority says "I hate X race" (could be another minority even, a lot of asians hate blacks for example) they are racist. Saying all racism is systematic and minorities can't be racist is like saying squares aren't rectangles.

>>88083356

>Didn't this kid just kill a cop and it was totally brushed off?

That entire issue was centered around how difficult and confusing it is to be a teenage girl. Except in the process the teenage mutant winds up getting at least three guys killed (and I doubt that this was an attempt to bring attention to male disposability).

>>88083904
To kill off the Aryan race as revenge for WW2.

>>88083890
>most tumblr like board ever.
what about /lit/?

>>88083946
But why would they want revenge if the Holocaust never happened?

>>88082682
You can have characters that have their own political ideas without forcing people into thinking that they are correct. You could have a conservative hero with liberal villains and a liberal hero with conservative villains in the same world, even in the same city. They could even clash.

>>88083963
This is Bait.

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>>88083733
>>88083629

This is true, white women are no longer a protected class.

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>>88083864
Hahahaha!

Look at this modest living Room! Obviously the living room of a man that knows the struggle!

>>88083852
Where is Batman getting his authority from anon? Superheroes don't get their authority from the state but from themselves, making them highly individualistic.

>>88082644
The fact that they thought their politics were absolute and untouchable.

Then Trump won and their sky castles turned out to be made of cardboard after all.

>>88083946
If that were their goal they'd stop breeding their own women to have such huge tits.

>>88083831
>>88083831
Captain America represents what should be the values and ideology of America, not its politics.

>>88083977
I don't know what they thought was going to happen. Women are a majority in the world but we have never had a female president. That says a lot about how much women's back a sista up. As in not at all.

>>88083995
That's not bourgeois you retard. The middle class is the bourgeois, Trump is the elite. Hillary won the vote of the proletariat.

You're a fucking halfwit and I can't wait to see your filth get reeducated.

>>88083904
They take out their main competitor for world power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q90kmUbEv7c

>>88082644
Comic creators are quite hermetic clique. Most of Marvel top writers and editors represent the same sicial group and worldview, so no wonder all they write is heavily slanted to the point of being comical because it's the usual people in bright spandex fighting for Important Social Issues by punching each other in the face.
There is no inflow of people with fresh ideas and different beliefs because the current clique function as gatekeepers, reinfoircing their orthodoxy with social media witchhunts.

One could go back to /pol/ and argue whether black Spider-Man is just a tool of (((globalists))) pursuing white genocide, but it's undeniable that Marvel lost the bond with a big part of its core audience whichbis slowly being reflected in sales.

>>88084027
>muh trump
Fuck off.

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>>88083222
Here you go.

>>88083904

>What do the Jews profit in pushing multiculturalism and diversity?

It's not really some big conspiracy like /pol/ makes it out to be, but it's just a matter of survival. As a minority group with a rather long history of persecution and being ousted from their homes, it's beneficial to encourage the societies they live in to be more accepting of minority groups, both in terms of allowing them into the country and treating them like human beings.

>>88084048
>Hillary won the vote of the proletariat
>sheltered first-world faggots think they are proletariat
no wonder why Castro died

>>88084113
Castro was 90 years old you idiot.

>>88084113

2016 was a good year.

>>88084069
Maybe in 8 years. :^)

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>>88084069
>implying Trump's victory didn't give liberals a simultaneous aneurysm.
I won't post any reactions, or collage thereof, because frankly I wouldn't even know where to start.

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>>88084113
>>88084130

>>88084113
>Castro said he would only Die when America is destroyed.

>>88083939
So the British colonization of India had no components of systematic racism, because Brits were a minority there.

Notice how, barring a few trolly "it's okay when DC does it" threads, no one really complains about DC publishing the occasional progressive propaganda (e.g. Prez, Flintstones) like they do with Marvel? It's because, after DCYou, they know better than to make it line-wide. It's niche stuff that has to be supported by comics most people actually want to buy.

>>88084188
Do t forget South Africa under apartheid or Rhodesia

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>>88084188
Of course, the Britsh were never racist.
They were assholes to everyone independent of race.

>>88084188
>>88084236
Hey man, the pilgrims were only a persecuted minority in early America. Technically up and until they came to hold power they were mere punching up at the privileged native americans and their respective systems of power.

>>88084264
More like he takes credit for some jobs not going overseas even though those jobs were never under threat of going overseas anyway.

>>88084139
Who do you think shuffles money up to the elite?

>>88084283
The key factor there is power. If you have the most power, you are not in a position to claim that you're oppressed.

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>>88082984
I'm not following if you're saying Jimmy Olsen was a rightleaning comic.

>>88084307
The elites and lobbyists that authored trickle-down economics and sold America in the concept.

>>88084162

> Trump killed Castro with a finger

Already MAGA.

>>88084343
It might have something to do with how Trump said he was going to bomb innocent families.

>>88084386
>mexican company says it's willing to help building the wall
What? For real? Source on this shit cause this is hilarious if true.

>>88084237

Go build wall Paco.

Also 3 million illegals will go immediately. Feels good.

>>88084393
>dumb enough to think it's "muh trickle down" meme and not the entire basis of capitalism

Reeducation can't come soon enough for ignorant savages like yourself.

>>88084424
You mean kind of like Obama has been doing for at least four years?

>>88084343
Hillary is a womyn. Not voting for her and supporting everything she does is mysogynistic.

>>88084343
'Sup Moscow.

>>88084331

> Enjoy your trade war with china

Yes, because China is a totally good country to do business.

I wonder why people bring this argument. China technically has legal slavery.

>>88083995
>Implying the owner of that room didn't make with his own bare hands.

The only struggle you ever faced in your life was typing your opinions on 4chan you pathetic white male.

>>88083967
That's how Civil War happened and look where that's gotten us

>>88084424
>bomb innocent families.
So, no change in policy from the last 60 years.

>>88084356
At what cost, anon? Trump essentially bribed them with US 'incentives'. But what were those incentives? Also this.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016/11/30/hundreds-could-still-lose-jobs-at-carriers-indianapolis-plant-despite-trump-deal.html

>>88084386
>spoiler
Chile? Peru?

>>88084441
That's deflection anon, Trump said he was gonna bomb innocent families.

>>88084441
But he didn't say it.

>>88082750
I can't imagine the life choices you have to make to put your self into a position where you find fault with this page.

>>88084436
http://nypost.com/2016/11/24/mexican-cement-company-offers-to-build-trumps-wall/

>>88084463
> you pathetic white male

It's fucking, at least do it right nigger.

>>88084344
Yeah and they weren't in power until the scales titlted in their favor. Your thinking is a straight jacket on the majority which means they can't do shit until they're the minority and then it's too late.

>>88084441
Yeah, which would make Trump pro-war.

>>88084469
Having the jobs is better than not having them.

>>88084344
Define "power", and why you think it's necessarily shared evenly among racial lines.

Because I'm pretty sure Obama has the most "power".

>>88084424
>>88084476
To be fair as far as I know he didn't say he'd bomb innocent families. Just terrorist's families. The hypothetical family's innocence or guilt wasn't specified.

>>88084485
I know, can you believe some people think for themselves?
How dare they

>>88084461
>China basically legal slavery.
Which is why they can offer cheapers products, which is why a horrible idea to go in a trade war with china.

>>88084488
Don't attempt to correct me you fucking white fascist rapist.

The world would be better off without your fucking mansplaining.

>>88084526
Mulattoes are the most powerful race.

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>>88084463
Trump inherited a vast fortune and business empire from his daddy. So he didn't build that up on his own.

The first job that he's ever applied for in his life is 'President of the United States'. The man isn't Bill Gates or Steve Jobs. Trump's dad was the one that built up his own wealth from nothing. Trump is a spoiled rich kid that's been coasting on his dad's work his entire life.

>>88084344
You'll notice he said as much, but until the pilgrims took over by the rationale tumblrites spew out they were an oppressed class since native american societies were filled with native americans. It's fucking retarded, but that's because it's leftist theory used on other societies than white which highlights the retardation where normally people don't see it.

>>88084465
There's a difference between casualties of war and actively going after innocent people, which is literally what Trump was said he was going to do.

>>88084483
So if I say I rob someones house and does it that makes me worse than someone who lies about robbing that house?

>>88084540
> China has cheaper products because they are basically devoid of human rights, which allows them to have an advantage to American companies
> better keep sucking their dick, that will make them stop

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>>88084540
But we are only making China stronger. We must unite and embargo China so it can crumble.

Sure the big corporations will get pissed off but thats when we beat them into submission and remind them who lets them live.

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>want to criticize Trump
>remember my country elected DUDE WEED LMAO ISN'T CASTRO A BRO?

>>88084546
>Halfbreeds

>>88084563
Right, because when Obama does it for eight years straight, it's just collateral damage. But when Trump, who isn't CiC yet, does it, then it's suddenly finally a condemnable evil.

>>88084587

Boy, that really hurt.

>>88084548
>Not a single black person in your picture
>White man glowing like Jesus


I didn't even read the shit you wrote. Your post belongs in the trash.

>>88084188
I was just talking about the US, as I thought was implied.

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>>88084587
Say it with me:
>A

>>88084526
Obama won two elections where he flat-out lost the white vote because several demographics combined are powerful vs the most powerful single demographic. That's not the same as all ethnic groups being equally powerful.

>>88084603
Obama did nothing wrong!
He was a good president!

>>88083003
>my side is pozwords
>your side is negwords
>haha I win

That's not a real argument and that post had no substance.

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>>88084587
He is half the reason (Current Year) is goind the rounds too, the other half being John Oliver.

>>88083303
That democracy is a failed system and force is the true universal method of enforcing systems.

>>88084563
>casualties of war
Which war? The US hasn't declared war since WW2.
Please tell me you didn't buy into Bush's 'collateral damage' wankery. If the police nukes an entire neighborhood to kill one criminal, is it any less evil?

>>88084581
>We must unite and embargo China so it can crumble.
And say good-bye to all these cheap chinese goods? I can't exclusively buy American anon, i'm not made of money.

>>88083051
Agreed. This is disgusting.

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Is he right, /co/?

>>88084472
Chile, home of the biggest pit open copper mine

>>88084657
If you want to see something really nasty:
Look inthefuckingmirroryoufuckingwhitemale

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Remember, folks.

>>88082644
>>88082725
The problem stems from these people thinking that they have some deep, important message, when in actuality it's shallow as a puddle and relies on strawmen. This is also why political cartoons are the absolute lowest form of discourse.

>>88084563
>casualties of war and actively going after innocent people
Then why does the US fund Israel for whom there is no effective difference?

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>>88084610
>Not a single black person in your picture

Pic related

>White man glowing like Jesus

StevevJobs was actually an Arab, but whatever bro.

Also, while you're bitching about black people not being in the picture, know that I'm as black as the ace of spades.

>>88084698
>tfw when 3/4's nazi

Wtf im evil now

>>88084610
>Not a single black person in your picture
Being so racist you don't even see the six black people in the picture. You need help faggot.

>>88084677
Of course he's fucking right. He's never not been right.

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>>88084698
>nazism
>bad

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This entire fucking thread is filled with nothing but MRA talking points, holy shit.

>>88084627
obama dindu nuffin

SAY IT WITH ME WE'RE GONNA BUILD
THE
WALL!!!
>nixes building the wall

SAY IT WITH ME WE'RE GONNA DRAIN
THE
SWAMP!!!
>appoints goldman & sachs dude as treasury secretary

SAY IT WITH ME WE'RE GONNA LOCK
HER
UP!!!
>oopsie tee hee

>>88084461
The fact that China has slavery is precisely why so many companies want to do business with them

>>88084711
>The only black man in the picture is someone who died because politicians and big corporations wanted more $$$.
>inb4 muh 9/11
>inb4 muh terrosim hunting

>>88084603
You're still deflecting anon, you're can criticize Obama but that doesn't change the fact that Trump said we should bomb innocent people.

>>88084730
Why would someone make a comic to attack a single troll account?

>>88084744
Then what's your point?

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>>88084436
If only you knew how bad things there really are.

>>88084740
>being butthurt because no one bought into your shilling
Her campaign isn't even paying you anymore. Go home

>>88084730
>canceled book

>>88084697
Did you just assume my race and gender, you bigot? You should be banned.

>>88084730
Ugh, I know right? I literally cant believe these trashbabies think they're on the right side of history.

>>88084708
Cause Israel is our lynchpin to the middle east.

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>>88084599
>all of our strengths, none of our weaknesses
>mfw blade predicted Obama

>Post shit form the 40's

wow you sure showed him

>>88084778
>lynch
stfu racist cracka

>>88084763
TRIGGERED

>>88084001
Batman is a deputized member of the Gotham police force and summoned by them to take down villains they cannot defeat

>>88084078
That's part of their deception, to have you believe that they're just trying to survive and that they're perpetual victims. But the truth is, they want nothing less than world domination, and they will do anything to obtain it. They are masters of deception, and they specialize in blaming others for things they have done or plan to do to others.

>>88084626

More whites voted for Obama than minorities combined.

According to your weird racial hive mind theory of "oppression", that shouldn't be possible.

>>88084730
I genuinely can't tell if /co/mblr is a false flag or legit anymore.

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>>88084743
Here's four more black people for ya.

>>88084730
>One single twitter account

I mean come on, at least find other tweets.

>>88083278
Neither is going to read comics. Michelle may watch the latest MCU movie and that's what really matter

>>88084754
What's yours?

>>88084802
The one on the far left is clearly a muslin you RACIST.

>>88084752
It came about because of the writer of the new mocking bird deleting her twitter and people claimed it was harrasment from MRAs so the cirtue singalling cucks that makes up Marvel's fanbase took to their drawing tablets and tada here you have the drawing.

>>88084800
Obama still lost the white vote in both elections. I never said that obama didn't get *any* white votes. Only that he lost the white vote.

>>88084763
Close to three million brought into the shilling m8, she won the popular vote by a very large margin.

>>88084708
The US funds Israel because Israel runs the US. We live in an occupied country.

>>88084222
That's only half the reason.
The other halff is that DC isn't constantly patting themselveso n the back and putting out press releases and going on The View to talk about how progressive they are.

And since most o the discussion of this on both sides is from casuals that don't read comics in the first place, that allows DC to go under the radar.

>>88082838
Remember kids,/pol/ and sjws don't actually exist

>>88082976
>You mean the point in time when comics rallied around the idea that we should beat the shit out of fascists, when Superman was a proponent of unions and labor, and Captain America literally punched Hitler in the face?
With the exception of the union thing those are not inherently left leaning.
Being anti fascist doesn't make you left leaning it makes you sane.

>>88084835
Looks like a black guy to me. Also you're the racist.

>>88083021
Underrated post. It's like the modern left still can't see they've become everything they hated. When comics used to get political they were actually standing up for just causes, now they're just smug reinforcement of the status quo. There's nothing revolutionary or thought-provoking about that.

>>88084001
Which is not fascistic at all. Fascism is about homogenous nationalism and a powerful state that controls all authority.

>>88084854
MUH POPULAR VOTE
wowitsfuckingnothing.png

>>88084485
Female superheroes exist so the notion that a y chromosome is required is idiotic

>>88084873
He's not black, you're the racist here assuming he's black for your own personall interests.

>>88084867
>Being anti fascist doesn't make you left leaning it makes you sane
Nice try cuck. You're not fooling anyone.

>>88084839
You didn't even answer my point.

More whites voted for Obama than minorities.

Without their votes, he would have been completely oblitherated.

This is because races aren't the hiveminds you pretend they are, and do not share "power" as racial groups (which you still haven't defined).

Your entire "theory" is nothing but a baseless narrative.

>>88084486
>Even the building of the Great Wall of America is being exported to Mexico
Thanks, Trump. Hard-working American construction workers could have gotten payed instead.

>>88084754
That trump isn't the anti-war candidate.

>>88084827
>Michelle may watch the latest MCU movie and that's what really matter
you forgot buying S-size captain america leggings for her L-size salami legs

>>88084914
Okay kid you really need to take the redpill and read Hillary's emails.

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>>88084677
You know, it's really funny. Less than five years ago -- maybe just three -- all this talk about privilege and patriarchy and representation/erasure, etc. would've been rapidly dismissed as the mindless gibbering by some underground cluster of mentally disturbed, socially inept slacktivists on tumblr. Fast forward to this year, it's reached mainstream media, and is talked about by actual professors both in favor and against it, and then the elections.

I can still remember when /co/ used to say "social justice" was just an isolated, insular tumblr thing that would never take off.

/co/ simply never gets tired of being wrong all the time.