If the 90s were so bad why did it have the best costumes?

>>88049343
Thor

>>88049343
>If the 90s were so bad
They weren't.
Well, 90's X-Men kinda sucked.
>why did it have the best costumes?
They most certainly did not.

>>88049343
Tween Iron-Man,
Onslaught,
the Heroes Reborn universe,
everything that was going on with Spider-Man...

The '90s were perfect in every way.

>>88049343
Because they also had the best artists

>>88049370
Cover his belly & ether cover or fully expose his arms & loose the groin brace and 90s Deodato Thor would be perfect decent.

In the 90s creators had enough freedom to do stupid things whereas today editorial tells them to do even stupider tbings

Any era that made high-cut thong leotards into the norm for females is going to be GOAT. This isn't even nostalgia speaking, this is objective fact. And the big hair. GOD, the big hair.

>UHHHH! FLOOFIER!

Comic characters nowadays dress up like they ride crotch rockets.

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They had some good ones, a lot of them were very exaggerated and filled with random things that didn't make any sense.

It had some of the worst costumes as well though

Like every X-Men character having to wear a blue and yellow costume.

>>88049343

the GOAT havok costume. i wish he would go back to it or its varant. outside of some bullshit, i love the 90s

>>88049914
when was there ever a skrull Cyclops?
I've read the entire run of him being an X-Men member while wearing that costume and I don't remember it at all.

>>88049930
Those are kind of the traditional team colors of the X-Men.

>>88049982
and they look shit on characters like psylocke and storm who never wore those colours

>>88050000

>and they look shit on characters like psylocke and storm
>who never wore those colours

?????

>>88049982
nobody is nostalgic for Lee-Kirby X-men

>>88050000
Psylock never wore blue?

>>88050124
she never wore blue and yellow

>>88049914
Fuck I love emo mullet AoA Cyclops.

nigga scott has muscles on his fucking muscles

>>88050175
she has worn it

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>>88050212
this

they all wore the blue and gold for a short period early 90s. it was very brief tho, then x-men #1 by jim lee came

>>88050212
yes, but not before they forced every x-man to wear it. If this is you >>88050099
then you really need to learn how to see contextual clues in conversation

>>88050260
and she wore it again years later. when she returned from being dead

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>>88049343
>90s
>Beast shoved a fuck ton of vocabulary in his dialogue bubbles
>AoA
>original x-man cartoon was airing
>spider-man cartoon came out
>the tick cartoon

fuck yeah man

90's Cyclops is my favorite Cyclops and I never read 90's X-men comics, watched the cartoon or played MvC2. It's just a great damn costume.

Is the apocalypse crossover from the 90's worth reading? What else was going on with the X-men in the 90's? You mostly just hear about the apocalypse stuff.

>>88051064
Onslaught
and the Phalanx Covenant I think.

>>88051191
Phalanx Covenant was fucking awesome

the 90s were the most fun time in comics ever

>>88051204
It was a great lead-in for Gen X, but if you were a fan of the regular X-Men cast of the time you were left reading about non-X-Men characters ... and Banshee.

>>88051872
REEEEEE FUCK YOU BANSHEE IS A BADASS

>>88050260
That's their point you illiterate fuck.

>>88051798
This. The 90's were the last time comics were doing the only thing they do well: entertaining prepubescent boys.

>>88050194
Snakeclops edges out Fedoraclops for me.

Pouches - for when you need to look bad-ass but still be practical.

>>88049343

The 90s was mainly bad for Marvel and it was the era of artists so you had some iconic designs.

Whare are the must read X-men stories of the 80's and 90's anyways? I heard Claremont got shitty in the 90's.

>>88049343
I'd rather even take the boring leather jackets over these crimes against eyeballs.

>>88049469
I thought that list was an argument against the 90's.

Onslaught is one of those "everything was better when I was 12" things. It seemed great at the time, but then you go back to it and realize how terrible it was. Marvel vs. DC is the same way.

They both had some great bits though. Before Onslaught started bleeding into the rest of the Marvel Universe, it was actually sort of great. Amalgam was excellent.

>>88049606
Art got better in the 2000's I think. The early 90's was everyone copying Rob Liefeld, and the late 90's was every copying Joe Maduriera

>>88050099
They wore them for like one storyline.

>>88051064
-X-Tinction Agenda
-Muir Island Saga
-X-Cutioner's Song (Cable revealed to be Nathan Summers)
-Fatal Attractions (Wolverine gets adamantium pulled out, Magneto mind wiped(creating Onslaught))
-Phalanx Covenant (Phalanx invasion, Generation X formed)
-Age of Apocalypse (alternate reality where Professor X dies before creating X-Men
-Onslaught (psychic being with the psyche of Prof. X and Magneto kills Avengers and FF)
-Operation: Zero Tolerance (new babby Sentinels capture X-Men, Iceman saves everyone)
-Hunt for Xavier (Prof X was detained after Onslaught and disappeared, X-Men find him)
-Magneto War (Magneto wrecks shit, his clone Joseph dies, humans give him the island of Genosha)

>>88049914
90s cyc was best

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>>88049343

>Jim Lee designs
>Good

Jim Lee costume design are literally the greatest thing that could happen to the comic book industry during the 90s

also, anyone who says jim lees designes are bad just have the worst taste

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You tell me

>>88054051
X-cutioner's song had the best fucking art thanks to jae lee

>>88049343
What function does Cyclops' neckstrap that goes to his belt serve?
And how does it still look good?

>>88049853
My fellow /m/an,

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>>88050194
>>88053015
Good taste

>>88054051
About half of this is worth reading, and very much so. The rest fucking blows.

>>88049370

Masterson Thor look was an awesome improvement while still maintaining the classic look.

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>>88058060
yea it did

jae lee's art was sexy af

>>88049853

I wish THICC hair would come back in style

>>88058312
>THICC hair
It's floof, you new-aged twat.

>>88049343
Because "90s was bad" was just a meme created by 00s kiddos so they could feel like all their Authority rip-offs of the early to mid-00s were some superior nuanced artform compared to the "shit" of the 90s.

>>88049469
Onslaught Saga is legitimately one of Marvel's best line-wide events.

>>88058307
good god how did I forget this man's art

>>88058525
The 90's started turning around toward the end after Marvel went bankrupt and started making quality books that weren't X-Men and people realized Liefeld wasn't that good after Heroes Reborn. DC was putting out more gems in the mid-late 90's too.

The 90's gets a bad rep because early 90's was legit one of the most garbage periods in comics.

>>88058537
HAHA no

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The problem with the 90s was, there would be a story arc and it would last for literally 2-4 damn years, like Operation Zero Tolerance and it would take over every fucking book so you are forced to read it.

And the shit was so ass, I mean man onslaught was kinda bad fun'ish but Zero Tolerance was just straight up fucking bad

>>88049469

Marvel made multiple separate universes. MC2, 2099, age of apocalypse, and so on. It honestly was a really great way to avoid conflict. Now they have to make it all connected and they run into issues all the time. I miss when marvel had alternate universes.

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>>88049343
Having the worst costumes and having the best costumes are not necessarily mutually exclusive.

>>88058336

fuck you, grandpa.

>>88058537
i think you meant AoA nigga

>>88062136

Wasnt that more its own thing than something that was across all the lines?

>>88058537
I'm so glad I'm no alone on this. It was one of the first that I genuinely felt the need to collect the majority of titles involving it.

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>>88049343
as bad as a fashion statement the 90's where. atleast they wernt affraid to make their superheroes look like superheroes
unlike today's ''le minimalism'' meme

>>88049914
I liked the fact they gave buttons in his gloves to activate the visor instead of constantly touching it to open.

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>>88063948
I mean the fashion wasn't even all that bad. It was pretty much just throw a leather bomber jacket over your costume, it looked kinda eh on some but Animal Man and Cyclops made it work

>>88065159
Cyclops, Rogue, Animal Man, and Black Knight rocked that shit in the 90s.

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Not for everyone. Not even close.

>>88049914

Man I fucking love Rightclops' costume but when it's not in-comic with the glowing X it looks like garbage.

Rightclops & Astonishing still the best with 90s bringing up 3rd.

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>>88065720
>>88065159
Mr Terrific's jacket is pretty baller too

>>88065159

jackets were good

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>>88066073
This. Rightclops is an unbelievable great design

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>>88069491
when he's drawn by good artists

bachalo, irving, I'm not sure who else put out good takes. Yu in Axis?

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>>88066073
Astonishing could use the jacket

feels naked after this show

>>88049382
>Well, 90's X-Men kinda sucked.
Only after Age of Apocalypse

>>88053886
>Art got better in the 2000's I think.
No. The Bryan Hitch generation is so fucking bland

>>88059145
>it would take over every fucking book so you are forced to read it.

Honestly I find this less annoying with the X-Men than when the 90's Spider-Man books did the same thing

>>88049914
Has Cyclops ever had a bad costume?

>>88071192
I think the original Silver age one is pretty bland, also I hate the X visor one he's had since AvX

>>88071192
I cannot abide a cowl that has no pointy bat ears.

>>88052928
Fuck you're right. Come to think of it DC's Rebirth is there to pander to people who read post-Crisis which almost certainly means adults. Marvel on the other hand is writing to appeal to college-age progressives.

Fuck.

>>88053869
Aw man. Marvel vs DC really was so cool when I was 12.

JLA/Avengers holds up though.

>>88058312
>>88058336
Mind posting some floof/THICC hair for the peanut gallery?

>>88049343
>HEY GUYS, HAVOK IS ONE OF THE X-MEN RIGHT

>SO WHAT IF HIS OUTFIT IS JUST A BIG YELLOW X ON A BLUE SHIRT. I'M A GENIUS.

>WELL, OF COURSE HE WARS A JACKET. NAME ONE CHARACTER CREATED SINCE 1990 WHO DOESN'T WEAR A JACKET. YOU CAN'T.

>>88049343
The 90s were the best era for comics in a long time. If anything its more of a final golden age where everyone looks at masterpeices as if they were shit and purposefully look for the trash to exemplify the time. Everything after the 90s is just new age cuck shit.

>>88071192
X-Factor costume v.1 is pretty meh, IMO.

Cyclopsalypse was pretty bad too.

>>88072731
Havok wasn't even an X-Man when he wore that.

>>88049343
I will never understand the X-Men headgear. Havoc and Jean have it in that shot, Gambit is famous for having it. It's just a leather thong to frame your face without wearing a helmet that hides your wavy 90s hair

>>88058662
Early 90's DC > late 90's DC

>>88071158
spiderman was extra annoying because of the clone saga. the constant
>ben reilly is actually peter but peter was ben the entire time but no ben was actually the real one and peter is the clone but ben wasactually clonedby peter
>oh yea and there's kaine now

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>>88071075
I like Brian Hitch and his art was some of the more stand out stuff in the 90's

>>88074346
The original way the storyline was supposed to go was pretty good.

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>>88072731
>>WELL, OF COURSE HE WARS A JACKET. NAME ONE CHARACTER CREATED SINCE 1990 WHO DOESN'T WEAR A JACKET. YOU CAN'T.
He was created in the 60's and at this point he was with X-Factor. It is also a massive step up from this boring and villainous looking shit.

>>88074635
it got so ridiculous that ben was actually in crossovers over peter

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>>88074027
>It's just a leather thong to frame your face without wearing a helmet that hides your wavy 90s hair
I know. It's amazing.

Someone post the Havok from the Age of Ultron tie-in

Literally GOAT.

>>88049914
Not too different from how every costume nowadays has ridges and plates.

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Space pirate Havok is best Havok.

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>>88075620
Tron outfit with space armor was a nice touch

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>>88072726
Rogue is pretty much the high point melding of floof and hotness in western comics. Not perfect floof by any stretch but good nonetheless.

But my curious dude, just look at literally any 80s anime. Kei, basically a TON of the Gall Force girls, etc. That's where the gold mine is.

>>88072726
http://desuarchive.org/m/search/text/floof/filter/text/

>>88049914
What's detective Cyclops from?

>>88076499
X-Men: Noir, I think

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>>88049914
Needs more Earth X-clops.

>>88074635
Which was how?

>>88058278

Only Onslaught and Hunt for Xavier are skippable due to the quality.

>>88049914
Ugh that AoA Cyclops is on point fa.m.

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>>88059145
Zero Tolerance lasted for 6 months.

>>88065159
I FUCKING LOVE POUCHES

I'm serious. The sci-fi bandolieres and pouch suspenders and little capsule shit around the thigh that the '90s loved is one of my weaknesses. See pic related? I love that shit.

>>88049343
>>88049343
OP you badass mother fucker, agree, 90's Xmen was without a doubt best Xmen.

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>>88076391
Some people keep the spirit alive. God bless you Pepe Larraz.

>>88059145
Zero Tolerance was good Bobby was a badass

>>88078739

Pouches make sense on certain characters, like Cable who use guns. Makes less sense on people like Cyclops unless he like, keeps spare visors or some shit in them.

>>88080252
Carrying at least one backup visor seems like it'd be a good idea.

>>88049914
>no Basilisk
>no Extinction Team

>>88054051
Fuck. MY CHILDHOOD. Loved everything before Zero Tolerance. Bastion just felt too serious and scary.

>>88059145
Story Arcs taking 2-4 years are better than a STORY that takes 2 years, like today.

I remember hearing that Liefeld drew pouches because he thought it was cool that SWAT have so many pouches on them. Guess it kinda makes sense if you think of the X-men(or any X-group) as the Mutant Metaphor Militia.

You can blame Hitch and Millar for that.

>>88081086
Ye they look neat

>>88079419
zero tolerance was ass