Oh Hickman you card.

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>>88039074

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He speaks the truth

Not like he's lying. X-fans are cancer

>>88039074
He's right

>tfw based hickman will never write cosmic marvel
feels bad, man

>>88039105
>Tear it up
He means your contract, Marc. Tear it up and get the fuck out of there!

>>88040072
Ewing's about the best shot Marvel has at a good cosmic book or event.

>>88040211
People said the exact same thing about Hickman. But this time they're right.

>>88039074
He's right though.

X fags are one of the worst comic fandoms.
Batfags and batfamilyfags are the only ones that beat X fags.

>>88040262
I firmly believe Marvel had and has good writers with good stories to tell but editorial fucks it all over largely because of corporate reasons.

>>88039105
S A V A G E
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>>88040140

>>88039074
He's completely right. What X-Writer hasn't been savaged in the last 10 years for "getting it wrong"? At some point, you have to realize it's an unwinnable fight.

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>>88040072
He did and it sucked.

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>>88039074
>>88039105
>McKelvie

Into the trash it goes

>>88040276
>>88039903
>God why are x-fags so shit. Why are they so mad that their books have been awful for over a decade!

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>>88041290
they seem ok.

>>88042221
Not hard to draw something still. He sucks at the basic point of comics.

>>88040140
>not wanting Marc to sign an exclusive with Marvel so he gets booted off of Arrow

>>88042221
>Mind Rapist.
>Kid Hitler.
>Time Paradox Monkey.
>Token Gay Kid.
>Kid Apocalypse.

Why is this team so shit?

>>88042221
I don't like them, too detailed. I guess the jackets are okay, but it's been done before.

>>88041222
People mostly liked Gillen's run on X-Men.

>>88041448
You people will never be happy.

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>>88041222
>implying it's our fault Marvel can't get their shit together

>>88039903
The only X-titles that I've ever liked are very loosely affliated with the main books, Excalibur and Alpha Flight

It's also kind of sad that even the indie knock-offs like Elementals and Harbinger seem far more interesting by comparison

>This is X-Fans fault

ha. Turning every crossover into "X-Men are bad", killing several key X-Men and leaving them with time displaced versions of the most boring team, inhuman poisoning, going back to "we're being wiped out" after half a decade of that crap, Bendis, etc.

Don't come to the X-Books with weak shit, then.

>>88041448
They could be like Batfags and pretend that their comics haven't been shit for the better half of a decade now. X-fags are just honest.

>>88043971
>>88044287

STOP BUYING BAD X-BOOKS. That's why this shit keeps getting published. X-Fans will hate something yet still buy it. Things will change once a message is sent. I swear, you guys like punishing yourself.

>>88039074
Hickmeme
heheh

>>88041448
>their books have been awful for over a decade!
wew lad

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>>88044360
>STOP BUYING BAD X-BOOKS.

But anon, they're fans, you just don't understand.

>>88042488
>>Kid Apocalypse.
No, he's Kideath

>>88041240
wut the fugg

>>88042221
Jean was never so short.

>>88042244

but hes not drawing the book.
he just designed the costumes.

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>>88044360
>

>>88044722
>Windows 10

>>88044505
What the fuck is that comic? Some hipster twat is too cool to like things, so anyone who does like things must be doing it out of existential crisis? Please kill yourself for posting that trash.

>>88044651

I would like to know if you made that collection yourself or if it came compiled as such from the source. I've been looking for a MTCDC Marvel equivalent for some time now, and while the CMC is comprehensive it's not sorted in the manner to which I am accustomed.

>>88044360
>>88044505

Thats not how Marvel publishing works.
if you don't buy the book, they won't think "lets try again but better", they'll think "guess this doesn't sell anymore, lets stop trying it for a while"

Marvel employees keep saying "vote with your dollars" or some variation of that shit. but all they see is SELLS or DOESN'T SELL. no commentary on why you did or did not purchase the book gets to them.

>>88044730
The laptop can with it already.
Too lazy to put 7 on.

>>88043009

Gillen's run would've been better if he didn't fuck up writing Magik.
and if he wasn't editorially mandated to attempt steering into AvX

>>88044799
He probably got it himself from various sources.

>>88044799
>>88044722
I scoured it from the sad remnants of TPB, demonoid, and the newly formed World Wide Torrents. Mostly from the user Nemesis43 who's had a presence on all three sites.

>>88044899
also inb4 someone shrieks about how TPB is Fedbait
The big two don't have something like the MPAA breathing down service providers' necks. Copyright law is basically meaningless here.

>>88044899

Ah okay. I thought I recognized some of those folder names. Thanks anon. That method is fine for the main books, but I want something more comprehensive.

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>>88044734
>What the fuck is that comic? Some hipster twat is too cool to like things, so anyone who does like things must be doing it out of existential crisis? Please kill yourself for posting that trash.

It's a comic about an old man being unwilling to outgrow something he liked as a child.

I feel sorry for you for how badly you misinterpreted a four panel comic.

>>88044722
good start....but you need the obscure stuff like Black Sun, Mekanix, Fantastic Four vs X-Men, District X.

>>88040276
Yeah, but they all loved Ewings stealth New Mutants.

>>88045266
God forbid he just like something instead of throwing it aside because he reaches a certain age that people decide "okay you can't enjoy this anymore.".

>>88044805
>lets stop trying it for a while

well, maybe thats the solution. like the f4 being put on the shelf, or patriots mysterious disappearance, or pym being fused to ultron and fucked off to space. maybe some shit needs to be put on vacation until someone with a plan can come through

>>88040377
Marvel editorial is absolutely powerless and simply manages time rather than story.

The reason Marvel has been so inconsistent with quality is precisely because the editors aren't doing their job and reigning in the writers and helping them along.

A good editor would have slapped Bendis around and said "Look, you have the same issues across the board and have had these issues for the past half-decade. This story needs to be trimmed down to one issue, not three. These are the scenes that bog it down."

A good editor compliments a writer, they don't impede and they don't bend over and let the writer do what they will when they keep making the same technical errors.

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>>88045423
>God forbid he just like something instead of throwing it aside because he reaches a certain age that people decide "okay you can't enjoy this anymore.".

That's not the message of the comic.

The man, alone in a room, is repeating to himself that he must always like what he enjoyed as a child because it would alter his identity to reassess what he likes.

At no point in the comic is he criticized by an outside force. The narration is the character's voice.

You are projecting a external threat to the character that does not exist.

Refresh my memory, which X-Books did he write?

>>88045498

Bendis is given broad leeway because of his years with the company.

Unless there's a major shakeup with Marvel editorially, Bendis will always be allowed to slack.

>>88045428
>patriots mysterious disappearance

patriot as a character is under the purview of tom brevoort's office, and he sees patriot's story as being complete.

>>88044360
It's not like they'll give PAD an actual book that has consequences to the overall shit narrative they have.

>>88045611
I was just using Bendis as an easy target. I'm aware we just kinda assume Bendis gets special treatment for being in he spotlight for so long. I'm not sure if that's the case or maybe that treatment extends to other veteran writers (Slott and Waid come to mind), but it's something I've noticed as an editor myself (but not for comic books).

>>88045592
He didn't.

>>88045592
Well, he helped with AvX.

>>88045650

which is nonsense. not even the dead get a game over, the end clause but hes done? there has to be a reason hes not being used beyond that

>>88044477
They have though. People act like Perlmutter was what killed it, but it was dying long before that thanks to the fact that the very CONCEPT of Decimation radically changed the entire theme of what mutant books are about forever.

Minority metaphors don't pretend to be a seperate species and fight against going extinct. Morrison got it. You don't reduce their numbers, you increase them to the level of an ACTUAL fucking minority. You give them their own equivalent to Chinatown or Harlem. You start talking about the culture they're inventing for themselves, their art and music and fashion and shit.

>>88046588
>you give them their own equivalent to Chinatown or Harlem. You start talking about the culture they're inventing for themselves, their art and music and fashion and shit.
What a fucking moron you are.

Morrison killed off Genosha for kicks and made them muh 16 gorrilion-tier.

>>88046588
Fuck no nigga, then instead of the shitty books we have now, we'd end up with the even shittier books of #mutielivesmatter

>>88039105
Guggenheim should be slaughtered in the street.

>>88046755
Why? He single handedly saved arrow in season 5. He should be revered and celebrated.

>>88040276
Spiderfags are infinitely worse than anybody else.

>>88046588
Decimation was pretty good though. NOt because of the concept but because we had good writers on multiple books. The worst was Young X-men but that was selfcontained. Whedons was at best mediocre but just mediocre. Even for as annoying as Hope was, it wasn't until Schism and AvX when all the shit writers hopped on.

>>88041222

Remender was pretty universally praised.

>>88046808
Ignore him. He's only read Morrison.

>>88046784
There is no universe where spiderfags are worse than batfags, doomfags, and cyclopsfags. That is the holy trinity of toxic fandoms.

>>88045266
t.woman

>>88046866
Spiderfags willingly buy Slottshit and throw massive tantrums over people preferring Batman to him.

Spiderfags just seem less toxic because Spiderman isn't that popular, but once they get going the few that exist are the worst fanbase on the planet

>>88039105
I know Hackman likes to be jokey on his twitter but telling Guggenheim, to his face no less, that he "loves his books" actually made me laugh. I mean, nobody enjoys Guggenheim's stuff after all so ayy, good jokey joke there.

>>88046938
"those books"

He could be talking about anybody's output.

>>88046938
Guggy's X-Men was really good continuation of Wood's

>>88045498
>past half-decade
Anon, Disassembled was in 2004. Bendis ignoring everything he didn't write, pulling characterization and plot points out of his ass and writing completely intolerable dreck has been going on for far longer han a half-decade.

>>88046963
>Guggy's X-Men was really good continuation of Wood's
Considering how bad Wood's was that's not a compliment. Some times with bad comic writers, they'll at least have some back up like they're successful TV writers or crime or YA novelists or something but Guggenheim doesn't even have that considering how bad Arrow is.

He's a failure in two mediums.

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>>88046935
>Spiderman isn't that popular

>>88041240
Is this an edit or did each issue come with a magnifying glass.

>>88047049
Arrow is really good this season and the first two were ace
did you really not like Wood and Guggy's X-Men? It wasn't bad at all

>>88047286
a very tired and bad one

>>88046588
And then you destroy the island nation that contains all this
greatly reducing their numbers

>>88047514
BUT MUTANT TOWN xD!!1!

Does it seem weird that Bunn thought Lobo and Aquaman fans were too picky and rage prone but he's perfectly fine doing X-books

>>88041290
I can't even pinpoint which Avenger this pic is referring to, anymore.

>>88047329
They were awful and Guggs Young X-men was shit. So shit everyone ignored it.

>>88047761
I'm guessing it's Hellcat

>>88044844
His stuff was the best shit to come out of AvX and right after.

>>88048594
>right after.
He did consequences right? He wasn't part of NOW though.

>>88045498

Good editors are unfortunately common.

Sure Denny O'Neil was a good editor, but most editors are trash.

>>88046843
that's not a refutation

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>>88046935
>because Spiderman isn't that popular,

Nigga what?! He's literally the most merchandised Superhero because he's incredibly POPULAR!

>>88048750
You're referring to that chart made during the release of Amazing Spider-Man, I take it?

>>88047514

Nobody ever did anything with Genosha. I remember Captain America painting a mural there once. Nobody cared what it was until they took the bomb blast.

>>88046791
Whedon predated House of M.

>>88046662
>>88047514
Genosha is a flawed idea. If you want to discuss groups willingly segregating themselves, it's much more effective to depict that through neighborhoods in America where the fucking readership lives than by showing what happens in the latest of Magneto's million incarnations of "Why don't we just all live on our own island where the humans can't bother us and maybe I'll fly it off into space, maybe I won't!"

>>88045553
It's a fictional scenario that presumes the man stopped getting GENUINE enjoyment from the thing and now only PRETENDS to like it.

Nobody fucking does that.

What people DO do, though, is buy stuff they hate and then repeatedly say out loud that they hate it, which is more mystifying behavior.

>>88049710
Actually, it makes a little sense if you assume those people are hopeless optimists whose attitude is "I hate this right now but maybe next issue they'll fucking fix it and it'll be what I liked again"

The problem is when you keep doing it for years in a row.

>>88039105

Oh my God, you can FEEL the level of sarcasm inside Hickman.

>>88044360

People AREN'T, for the most part. They put bad things out anyway.

>>88044722

>Windows 10

Nigga', what are you DOING?

>>88048648
I meant Consequences. Consequences and Uncanny were great. And his run of Iron Man was during NOW

>>88042221
More like X-Meh

>>88042518
Jean jacket and the boots are literally Quitely designs

>>88045498
>Marvel editorial is absolutely powerless and simply manages time rather than story.
Marvel seems demonstrably shit at managing time too, though.

>>88039105
This is so brutal.

>>88049710
Not that guy but, lots of people do that. Sometimes it means staying in a hobby, relationship, or career because changing threatens their self image. some people cannot handle that. Some people are superficial and neurotic.

>>88049233

No, like consistently.

Hickman built up our hopes that he'd do something cool with a character we'd been waiting years for someone who o do something cool with, Scott, and basically used that to piss on the character yet again. These fucking dudes. They keep shitting on the property and then fcking whine that we don't say thank you sir, can I have another serving. What a pack of assholes.

>>88039074
Late to this, but holy shit

>>88040276
The ultimate crossover event

Batfags vs Xfags

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>>88049710
>the man stopped getting GENUINE enjoyment from the thing and now only PRETENDS to like it.
>Nobody fucking does that.

literally /co/ does this

how many people read x-men or batman because they "always have"

We have people "loyal" to companies that don't give a fuck about them.

>>88054717

The fuck? /co/ doesn't even pretend like some of the good stuff, let alone something bad or mediocre.

>>88040377
What good writers?

>>88048056
>The shitty writing of O5 will continue

>>88046866
> batfags, doomfags, and cyclopsfags
You've been literally falling for memeposters. X-fags and Superfags are the only ones who go to great lengths to scream not muh and act persecuted for every little thing.

>>88046866

Yet Bat-hate threads and Spider-ship threads outnumber pro-Bat threads like 20 to 1.

/co/ collectively whines about the Bat fanbase to holy hell, yet I hardly ever see the people you're crying about.

>>88054863
>The fuck? /co/ doesn't even pretend like some of the good stuff, let alone something bad or mediocre.

/co/ these days hates everything

Even good things get picked apart and treated like trash

>>88053948
but would it be Bendis or Snyder?

>>88054717
>how many people read x-men or batman because they "always have"
I bought Uncanny for a long time, but stopped when Benis showed up. Then I reread it, and didn't hate it (hated ANXM), and I'm back to buying Uncanny again.

>>88055167
Guggenheim isn't writing Blue, so Bunn migt actually do something interesting if his MAgs saga continues as it has been

Characterfags are generally toxic; every single one of them. I've never seen one rational characterfag. It's just that X-men has a huge fanbase, so they appear more toxic than the rest.

>>88041448
That's undeniable.
It's also undeniable that X-fags are impossible to please and will complain no matter what they get.

>>88040377
D*sney in a nutshell.
Look at Pixar.
Hell, look at Star Wars.

>>88039903
>>88040276
I don't think that was the point of hickman posts

I'm not sure what Hickman is getting at. It feels like he is taking a jab at marvel. But whatever.

What a weird thread

>>88041240
Secret wars was not cosmic marvel. It was a playbox

I don't know why I'm so surprised at how insecure comic book fans can be.

>>88057367
I don't know what is the point of this thread

>>88046866
>batfags
true. But at least a lot of them admit batgod is bullshit and wrecks him as a character
>doomfags
Are funny, they just embrace the cheese
>cyclopsfags
Are right

>>88057484
t. mousedrone

>>88047329
Arrow this season is shit. Marginally better than S4. Amell is just as enjoyable as ever but his entire sub team is fucking terrible. Thea isn't even doing anything interesting anymore so the only enjoyable stuff is with Ollie and Dig. Everything is is ollicity bad.

Hickmans twitter is his greatest work

>>88057322
He still did Cosmic. Or did you forget about Infinity?

>>88057641
We all want to forget about infinity

>>88057522
I am actually a /co/ntrarian, i prefer DC street level and Marvel cosmic

>>88057674
Infinity was great though, apart from Thane..

>>88057695
>Was a Great Crap
ftfy

>>88057484
>doomfags
>Are funny, they just embrace the cheese
Some of them. There's a particularly intolerable subset that unironically believes Doom is awesome and can do no wrong.

>>88057726
you can say that about any fandom

>>88042221

What the hell? The young X-MEN are STILL in the present? Didn't Beast get them in like, 2012?

That's fucked up.

>>88057765
>2012
I think right at the very end of the year, yeh

>>88045371

Are you crazy? X-fags had an autistic fit, ON THIS VERY BOARD, about Ewing using New Mutants because "REEEEE NOT AN XBOOK HE'S STEALING OUR CHARACTERS"

It was them shitting up New Avengers storytimes that made me hate all X-Men fans.

>>88045371
Ultimates is good.
New Avengers is literally reddit.

>>88041222
>He's completely right. What X-Writer hasn't been savaged in the last 10 years for "getting it wrong"?
You don't have to restrict yourself to the last 10 years. Morrison was savaged for it and he wrote the second best X-run of all time.

>>88058346

This is bullshit, New Mutant cameos are one of the best parts of NA. My anecdotal evidence probably doesn't outweigh yours.

>>88041222

I haven't seen anyone yelled at for doing it wrong. It's for writing it badly.

>>88049710
>Nobody fucking does that.
Yes, they absolutely do. All the fucking time.

>>88056678
That's fucking bullshit. All they need to do is bring back X-man, give him a prominent role in the franchise, release a New Mutants book with the classic roster, and put Chamber on whatever the current main x-team is. That'd please all of us x-fags, but nope, they just keep pulling the same garbage over and over and continue to ruin the X-men.

>>88058581
>morrison>good X-Men

>>88058758
>Hickman was right.

>>88058581
>It's been more than ten years since Morrison's X-men.
I'm getting old.

>>88058346
Are you a literal retard? Why an avengers book should have new mutants characters in the FIRST PLACE?

>>88058638
>This is bullshit, New Mutant cameos are one of the best parts of NA.
speak for yourself

>>88058346
>It was them shitting up New Avengers storytimes that made me hate all X-Men fans.
Good, because we hate YOU

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>>88059039

SEE? FUCK THESE GUYS. FUCK YOU X-FAGS.

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>>88059128
Yes. fuck me, fuck me, you little insecure bitch.
Lick my anus

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>>88058346
>missing the Warlock reaction

Is Cannonball still married to that ayy lmao?

>>88049233

you can pretty much look at any hasbro year end report. Spider-man makes them a shit ton of money.