How was she in the wrong? All she did was state the facts.

>>87960888
Muh media.

Also, nice trips.

>>87960888
She was jumping to conclusions based on circumstantial evidence on live television. Everything she did was wrong.

Conjecture =/= fact
it was an educated guess, but irresponsible to express to the public without any conclusive evidence.
The same statement would be appropriate to express to a ZPD crew, but as is all she did was whip up panic on a city-wide scale.

>>87960888
>How was she in the wrong?
Because those are microphones and not a bouquet of cocks

>>87960888
>How was she in the wrong? All she did was state the facts.

I felt like that was one of the writer's intentional jabs at modern media double standards.

Like, if someone went on live television right now and started pointing out how virtually every terrorist attack in the last three years on American ane European soil has been carried out by fundie Muslims, they'd be called a racist/hatemonger/Islamophobe, even though it's objective fact supported by demonstrable evidence.

>>87960888
It wasn't facts it was shit she thought may be true backed by absolutely nothing

>It's a subtle /pol/ thread

>>87960979
>>87961118

>Implying she didn't

Predators detected.

>>87960947

Also she she jumped to conclusions partly because of her on "racism".

>>87960888
Dies later at the hands of a Pred who had family and friends die in the ensuing crisis.

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Everyone fucked up there, partially because of the villain's subtle manipulations.

Judy should've held her ground and said that she was not trained to deal with the media and had no place talking to them. Cops have representatives for a reason. She stated what she thought were the facts but was also, yes, leaping to a conclusion based on a bad source, being a criminal scientist she just arrested who was making a guess. The right thing to say there is that the suspects still needed to be interrogated before a conclusive statement could be given.

Bogo should have fucking known better than to send a rookie to the press wolves. Of COURSE she fucked up. Even if she hadn't been set up as a meter maid, she would've been barely off the beat and suddenly dealing with a panicked, angry press desperate for a clear, easy story to exploit. To the film's credit, it showed Bogo realizing he mishandled Judy and him having her back in the end. It would've been real easy to make Bogo a pure heel.

And who kept putting pressure on the department to make hero cop Jody Hopps a symbol of the department? Who pushed Bogo to put her ON the case in the first place, an action that would've benefited her plans if Judy had gotten herself killed OR the one in a million miracle of her success happened? Who, with a few friendly words and gentle abuses of authority, made absolutely sure Judy was set up to fail at that press conference and throw the city into a state of exploitable panic?

>>87960966
Define terrorist attack.

>>87961005
Every thread on /co/ has been /pol/ for the past year or two, and judging by the way things look - will probably be for the next four years.

I sorta thought Trump being elected would make the site swing back to the left like it was during the Bush years, but it appears we've reached new autism levels previously thought to be unattainable.

>>87960888
Discussing the details of an ongoing investigation is a big no no.

>>87960888
She did not have any facts. she had an assumption

>>87960946
Tell that to Trump

>>87960888
It's not that she was wrong, but she didn't have enough to back up her claims.

>>87961425
Yeah, Bogo should've picked up on the idea that a brand new cop shouldn't be speaking at a press release beyond "thanks everyone." It was Bellweather manipulating events by having a rookie cop get chewed out by the press.

>>87961672
So she was wrong?

>>87961820
4chan has never and will never work like that.

>>87960888
She makes the same argument that predators being aggressive is coded in their DNA, making them dangerous, that her Bully made to her. She lets her "pred-judice" get the better of her because she doesn't think she's prejudiced against foxes despite all the evidence that she is. She didn't do it intentionally and she had no clue what she said was wrong. It still did a lot of damage.

>>87961820
>>/lgbt/

>>87961730
>>87961672
She was wrong but her idea was reasonable.
I was unreasonable to make it public before you have evidence.

>>87962375
its like having the media say that the killer lives at X address without checking the address first.

I felt it was more that it was hypocritical. Despite being held back all her life due to being on the receiving end of species-ism, she wasn't cognizant of how she herself was also dishing it out.

>>87962438
Or checking if he is guilty.

Or that they started a lynch mob.

>>87962687
Judy basically started a Pred Lynch mob. I wonder if any predators were killed cause of what she said?

>>87964595

Jesus Christ, I hope not. I really don't want to have to explain the concept of a lynch mob to my 5 year old because she watched a Disney talking-animal movie.

>>87961501
>Every thread on /co/ has been /pol/ for the past year or two
Not really. This boards culture has been strongly influence by the comic book community which is very PC/SJW. There is some degree of counter to it, but mostly does not take the /pol/ form.

As for the political spectrum swing in 4chins. That does not happen over night. It is driven by the acting administration having all the publicity, and thus all the blame, which ignites social feedback loop.

That will probably manifest in Amazing Atheist type of personalities, for 4chan. Which is anti-feminist/PC/SJW left.

>>87960888

She said that the reason predators were going feral was because of some innate biological thing deep inside them that was bound to act up. That was not true and it severely impacted the predators lives fueling a "race war".

>>87961456

An attack perpetrated by a terrorist.

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>>87960888
She was an innocent pawn. A nieve little bunny who was manipulated by Bellwether. Note the grin she had on her face after pulling Hopps from the podium and reassuring her. Timed it right, just enough concern generated by the media without it descending into chaos immediately. Emodiment of evil.

>>87960888
She stated speculation.
It wasn't fact, just her assuming. Until she knew all the facts, she should have given a vague, blanket statement.

>>87961456
An attack created to make a statement to a nation government but actively attack civilians instead of armies/soldiers with guerrilla tactics.

The most commonly used non-Muslem terrorist is Ted Kaczynski an anarchist who wanted to topple the american government by mail bombing random people. While it wasn't totally random, he mostly focused on computer scientists professors, etc. The victims had no real power, influence and was done purely to showcase cruelty.

>>87970916
>Violent acts are called different things based on the person that does them.
Not quite true, if the mass shooting was done as a statement to the toppling of a government then yeah it's a terrorist attack. However most mass shootings are done by autistic white teenagers/young adult /r9k/ types who get bullied and feel outed by their peers.

If it's any consolation more and more white youth, especially in Europe, have become members of terrorist organization.

Actually no, that's terrible.

>>87960955
>Bouquet of Cocks

I'm trying to imagine this as a litteral bundle of severed yet some how living penises in wrap of paper as a replacement for flowers on a date, or it's kinky name for a service for a throng of male strippers to let female patron smell their combined musk and rub her nose all over their head but not go any further with any secual act as it's a service for people with super strong sense of smell or is an odor fetishist.

>>87960966
it was a pretty explicit reference to the Central Park Five press conference

>>87964595
Most likely.

Random whie people were attacked by La Raza types in So Cal because Trump won...Irony would have it that one woman who was beaten with tire Irons was a Hillary Voter...but whatever, mobs are do what mobs do

>>87970916
This. The media and the pigs that eat from their troughs cherry pick the slop they consume.

>>87960947
>it was an educated guess, but irresponsible to express to the public without any conclusive evidence.
Yeah, because she is not a scientist, so she needs to wait until all the research and studies have been done in order to determine a direct relationship.

Her words and actions launched campaigns of hate and fear and violence, whether that was what she intended or not.

She wasn't ready to speak publicly about something she knew very little about, and that's not her fault. But, ideally, she should have bitten her tongue and said that she didn't have enough information to state something for sure.

This is also important and relevant:
>>87961425
>Judy should've held her ground and said that she was not trained to deal with the media and had no place talking to them. Cops have representatives for a reason. She stated what she thought were the facts but was also, yes, leaping to a conclusion based on a bad source, being a criminal scientist she just arrested who was making a guess. The right thing to say there is that the suspects still needed to be interrogated before a conclusive statement could be given.

>>87971272
>>87971272
>Not quite true, if the mass shooting was done as a statement to the toppling of a government then yeah it's a terrorist attack.

That's fair, though I'd simplify to just say "violence that attempts to send a political message" because you see it all the time when a Dylan Roof happens or Planned Parenthood gets bombed by a christian the pundits have NO idea how to refer to these attacks. It's terrorism dude.

>>87960888
Sometimes the truth is wrong anon especially when you are talking about something to a large population thats why we need to hide it sometimes for the common good

>>87960888
actually she didn't have all the facts.

that's also why the sheep wanted her to speak

>>87974632
this
giving truth to the masses is a dangerous thing since they are stupid

>>87966836
You should explain it because that's the world she lives in

>>87960888
Dumbass bitch could of have thinked a bit on her words before saying anything.

>>87961425
True dat. Didn't think about Bogo making a stupid judge of character to think she could handle the media.

>>87974677
/thread

>>87961501
>Every thread on /co/ has been /pol/ for the past year or two

What are you talkin bout mate

>>87960888
Because she didn't take our feelings into consideration.

>>87970916
No, the media labels any shooting motivated by an ideology as terrorism, because that's what terrorism fucking is.

>>87975079
what's the definition of an ideology/
Because that movie theater guy in colorado was spewing edgy Joker shit but that's still a belief system, just an infantile one.

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>>87971620

Sure, those two incidents are terrorism. Still doesn't come CLOSE to the amount of terrorism carried out by Mohammedans, which is what the other guy said.

Abortion Clinic bombings are the most famous and they only killed about a dozen people over 30 years.

IRA only killed about 1800 during the decades they were active. 9/11 killed more in a day.

Mohammedans are king at terrorism.

>>87975996

It's only a terrorism if it's done by a terrorist.

>>87975996
I don't give a shit about your semantics, the facts are that Radical Islamists are dangerous, and there's a lot of them.

fuck dis movie was good.

>>87976032

No one said anything contrary to that moron. What was SAID was

>virtually every terrorist attack in the last 3 years on American/European soil was committed by fundie muslims

Which is wrong and fucking stupid on top of it.

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>>87976113

i think it felt unpolished. and that music was underwhelmind.

tfw you relate to the deuteragonist

>>87960888
Well, humans are predators.

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>>87961158
>implying not homo-sapien

sup

>>87976493

they havent "evolved" yet, and this makes them useful for the people in power.


...wait a minute.

>>87975079
they sure as fuck didn't label Dylan Roof as a terrorist

>>87977261
Did they not? Because I'm pretty sure I saw him called a terrorist. Though it may've been in relation to "why won't you call him a terrorist" but that shit was happening like minute one.

>>87977345

There were a lot of "is this terrorism" stories, but the natural inclination was to not call him a terrorist until after a bunch of people got on their asses about it.

>>87960888
She literally repeated what she herd on /tv/ earlier rather than think about everything she knows about the case and answer the questions based on said knowledge.

>>87977261
>>87977378

It was reported as a hate crime, because that makes SJWs boners hard.

It was occasionally reported as domestic terrorism.

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>>87960888
Actually yes, she did state the facts.

Of course the predators are still predators deep down, that was even in the original script. Here is some of the concept art. The Wild Times place Nick as supposed to run wasn't just a collar free zone, it also allowed predators to act on all those urges they otherwise couldn't.
Then again I doubt they could have used that and still pushed their BS message:
>But we're all the same deep down! REALLLY!! Rabbits and foxes even!"

Which removed any and all depth this movie could have had. Instead of having the species learn to accept each other for their differences, they pretended they didn't exist in the final cut. How fucking shallow can you get.

>>87978182

uh-oh, fandom reared up its ugly head.

>>87978182

Well, it runs parallel to the real world.

There are physical and intellectual differences between the races.

The man that first identified the double helix model of our DNA, James Watson released a paper showing clear differences.

People don't want to accept each other for their differences, they want to pretend they don't exist.
After he released his data on the matter, he lost just about everything, he was called a racist, and a bigot, because he dared to point out there are physical differences between the races.

He fell on such hard times that he had to sell his Nobel Prize.

He sold it for $400,000.00 and the person that bought it returned it to him shorty after the sale.
(that was 2 years ago)

>>87960888
she stated her theory that was only backed-up by anecdotal evidence

>>87978182
But the movie's final message is about how "we all have limitations," and how Judy accepts that not just anyone can become anything -- as she once believed.

I understood it as her going in over her head a lot throughout the movie and realizing that she needs to take a step back, because she isn't the superhero lady cop she envisioned herself to be. But, working past her limitations as a bunny, she still achieved the job she wanted. I think her speech at Nick's graduation ceremony acknowledged the inherent differences between species in a pretty smart way, honestly. I think the quote's something like
>We all have limitations. But, hey -- glass half full -- that means we all have something in common.

>>87978638

so don't judge book by the cover and try harder.

>>87978516
I honestly don't think there is that notable a difference between human races, at least mentally. It mostly seems to be culture that's the culprit in making peace and/or monsters. But that kind of shit is for /pol/

I am more concerned by the intent of the people who made this movie. The problem here is this movie compares things that are most definitely 100% different, like a lion and sheep, and tries to sell the idea that these are one in the same, like human races. That's.. pretty fucking retarded. It has the reverse effect of fighting racism because you're using an analogy that, once examined, ultimately says: "YES, we are very different, because we're just all pretending we're not!"
If people want to show how not different humans are to one another, you really shouldn't use two things that are most definitely different as examples.

>>87978829

We are all very different from each other, and we like to pretend that we aren't.

Of the last 96 people to compete in a men's 100m sprint Olympic final, what is the ethnic breakdown?

What are the odds of that happening by chance?

Am I being racist by examining data, cold hard facts and figures.

It may not be a huge difference between the human races, but there is one that exists. I do understand what you are saying about culture also being a culprit that demonstrates a difference between people, and the cultural difference is not a racial difference.

A lion and a sheep are not one in the same.

a man of African decent and one of east Asian decent are not one in the same.

The movie, as well as the current Cultural Marxist narrative are trying to sell the idea that these are one in the same.

And if you try to speak out against it, you will be concidered a racist bigot and will be demonized for years and pretty much ostracized from society as a result. It doesn't matter who you are, or how much scientific evidence you present.

If what James Watson has stated is scientifically wrong, it should be a case of those with similar scientific credentials demonstrating why he is wrong. Striving towards facts being presented to reach a truth.

Instead, we have certain sections of the media and even members of the scientific community shunning him, plugging their ears and screaming racist.

I didn't proof read this, and I've been awake for over 35 hours, so I'm sorry if some words are out of order or whatever, but I'm sure you get what I mean.

>>87978829

it's an Aesop tale, dude. A movie where animals teach children what is right and wrong.

>>87978974
>>87978182

Also as a closing statement, I would like to quote you back to yourself.

>Instead of having the species learn to accept each other for their differences, they pretended they didn't exist in the final cut. How fucking shallow can you get.

Same as the real world.

Goodnight.

>>87960888
She didn't. She slipped in some of her own speculation based on prejudice, just in a way that made it look like an objective fact. Which is pretty bad when she's giving a press conference on something delicate like this that has most of the population already on edge with fear. She should have been more careful with her words and just said that they don't know but they're looking into it, instead of essentially lying that yeah it's the murderous nature of the preds we all knew was lurking beneath the surface breaking free and no-one is safe could happen to anyone, any time.

She was a fucking idiot. She should have understood what sort of a panic reaction saying something like that would cause

>>87979008

Buns have small brains.

you can't expect them to understand these things.

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>>87979030

first: she was naive
second: the experience with gideon (that fox that slashed her face) left a mark in her mind.

>>87979050

..D-Did Gideon rape the cute little bun?

>>87978974
>A lion and a sheep are not one in the same.
>a man of African decent and one of east Asian decent are not one in the same.
a lion and a sheep are different species you dumb fuck, a black man and an asian man aren't

>>87979432
[source needed]

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>>87960966
>virtually every terrorist attack in the last three years on American ane European soil has been carried out by fundie Muslims
Did your mother ever hold your face underwater as a kid?

>>87979050
That's no excuse though
She should have known better

>>87971089
So rioting doesn't count now? or nazi's stabbing people? Isla Vista? KKK? Those just don't exist anymore?

>>87979531
2nd grade.

>>87978974

Holy shit get some sleep nigga

>>87979690
Not the person you responded to, but it depends on the country. For example, due to Aus having well over 70 different pieces of legislation directly related to terrorism, the examples listed above would still count. So would something as insignificant as robing a bank.

>>87961425
>Bogo should have fucking known better than to send a rookie to the press wolves
But there was no wolf among the press

>>87960888
I don't think she was wrong. If it somehow turned out that all the attacks by Muslim fundamentalists since 9/11 were the product of an evil comic book villain giving them magic watches that controlled their minds like in Naked Gun, then I will absolutely apologize for feeling awkward whenever I fly next to someone in a burka.

Look at the bus crash in Chattanooga. Dude named Johnthony was probably driving too fast. You go on the news and say, "We imagine Johnthony was driving too fast and it caused the accident," because there are literally no other extenuating factors we can deduce at this time. Then you find out that one of the kids was a secret child mastermind who caused the bus to swerve off the road by rigging up a complex device made of Popsicle sticks. No, I wouldn't feel bad that I didn't immediately figure this out... it's fucking dumb, and so was the fact that a pretty standard buddy-cop formula movie turned out to have a fucking Moriarty with magical blueberries or some shit.

How is blabbering details of an ongoing investigation is not wrong?

The real problem here is Bogo who pushed an untrained rookie before the press. Jesus invented public relations for a reason.

>>87979936
>whenever I fly next to someone in a burka.
The number of deaths in the US by female muslim fundamentalists is exactly 0.

>>87979651
Not the dude you're responding too (he's an idiot for including Europe in that statement about terrorism), but Muslim fundamentalists have been particularly active in recent years.

>>87979953
>I cannot refute your points, so I will find something pedantic in your phrasing to call you out on because I am a tremendous faggot

>>87978516
Maybe the controversy came from him trying to claim a hypothesis as fact instead of a hypothesis.

>>87979986
You're afraid of women in burqas. Nobody can take you seriously after that.

>>87961425
when Judy realised it was a chemical she should have rang the cops, why didn't the mayors scientist pick up on the howling stuff?

>>87978974
>Cultural Marxist narrative
Thread over, go home everyone. We have entered the point of no return

>>87979953
What about that lady who shot up her office? You know, sparked the whole controversy if the FBI should be allowed to hack into someone's iPhone

>>87979953

Yes, in US, in Russia they prance around with heads of children they just killed.

>>87960888
She was unintentionally biased, and did nothing wrong.

>>87960888
Instead of blaming the problem on the chemical that made the predators go wild, she blamed it on the predators instead like an amateur.

It's like saying that the guy who got arrested last week for shoplifting stores was a Jew, so every Jew has the urge to shoplift stores and shopkeepers better be careful of Jews.

Hope this autistic comparison made sense.

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>>87980972
>blaming the problem on the chemical

people often forget about that part, sure there was one florist (otterton) who knew what was going on but he was silenced quickly.

>>87981233
Really? I thought OP was the only one who forgot about that, it's literally the plot device of the latter half of the movie

>>87960888
I think she might have been in the wrong when she got in bed with the mob, that is known as corruption

All video gamers are whiny babies who live in their mom's basements.

>>87981963

she wasnt a cop when she asked mr. big for help.

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>>87961501
>I sorta thought Trump being elected would make the site swing back to the left like it was during the Bush years
There's still time, I hope. Trump hasn't even been inaugurated yet.

>>87960888
Technical she mistook a correlation with a causation which almost led to a race war.
But in her defense said correlation was purposefully designed to spark said race war so if she hadn't made the assumption someone else, probably the news, would have done it anyway.
But mostly her only sin was letting her preconceived notions color her view of the world which alienated her friend.

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>>87979432
I think the point he was trying to make was there are physical differences between different humans living in different places.

If you feed an Eastern Asian child milk and he shows clear signs of discomfort you would not give him milk.. If studies clearly show his ethnic group cannot process milk and you are in charge of a class with majority asian children would you give milk boxes to everyone becasue you just aren't certain how everyone would react and it would be best to not discriminate?

>>87960888
She hurt Nick's feewings even though he did the same kind of shit near the beginning of the film.

>>87961501
>>87984488
Generally 4chan is best described as libertarian by nature, they prefer who ever fucks with them less and currently what conservatives are offering is going back before PC culture and SJWs existed. Bush was shit but at least the busybodies he produced were entertaining and didn't know how to use the internet

It was never pure contrarianism for the sake of it.

>>87962017

So, I didn't watch the movie, but are foxes a metaphor for blacks?

>>87985463

yes, but only in the previous version.

>>87979531

Black and asian people can reproduce among themselves and produce fertile offspring. Isn't that enough?

>>87985526

Did they changed the entire movie? Fuck I never saw the original

>>87985573

of course you didn't, no one except the creators did, but there's tons of concept art and clips from it.

that's a funny story actually, it was a noir movie with talking animals, zootopia was an ironic name , it was actually a dystopia, and predators were the minority that was constantly monitored,enslaved and feared.

>>87961501
>Every thread on /co/ has been /pol/ for the past year or two,

Are you fucking retarded? There's a reason /co/ has a reputation for being a Tumblr outpost. It's the most SJW board on this site.

If you think /co/ is anywhere near /pol/, you obviously don't use any other boards. People rolling their eyes at Marvel niggifying their entire character lineup isn't /pol/.