/swco/ - Star Wars Comics & Cartoons

>>87920925
those are some lousy deals
I'm going back to Steam

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First for Venators

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tfw no qt robot gf

>>87921041
Oh for fuck's sake

>>87920925
Did Han Solo 5 get storytime?

>>87921107
No, because it's shit.
It's all shit!
FUCK STAR WARS

>>87921046
Hmm?

>>87921125
>>>/tv/76607060

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>>87921219

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>>87921252

>>87921219
>>87921252
>>87921298
>Standing behind me to check out my ass? Sorry, perv! That's where my hands go.

Neglected wook pages:
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Thanoth
It's because wook is racist

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General reminder that Grievous has a cooler ride than you do

>>87921558
I thought he was obviously white from the comics? Also, I'm thinking we should probably starting editing some wook articles for canon. We need to give it another shot.

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>>87921634
He probably picks up all the jedi in that. Never to notice me.

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>>87921592
We might have problems...

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For all dogfight fans out there. What kind of ideas do you have for a dogfight focused Star Wars story?

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>>87921592
AT-TE

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/swco/! You didn't tell me Grievous was besties with Rosh Penis!

>>87921692
a team of rebels have to steal the death-star plans

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>>87921786
Grievous is friends with EVERYBODY

Does this look like a face you can say no to?

>>87921859
Fuck that shit. I remember thinking Rogue One was a hint towards Rogue Squadron.

>>87922165
That's what they were going for wasn't it?

>>87921692
god I wish I knew. Maybe some made up universe where I can rebel pirate a powerful empire, or jedi/bounty hunter role player as an ace piolet hunting dark or even good jedi's and important figures.

With cool B-Wing fights. B-wings mother fucker, not v, not a, not tacom interceptors.

MOTHER FUCKING B-wings. With functional ion cannons.

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Gimme some hi-res Rogue One shots. I need to beat my dick to something.

>>87921692
Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter II

O shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Otdkljzu0iw

>>87921692
Rebel ace team being rivals with Imperial ace team. Maybe have the leaders of both teams fly different fighters from their squadmates. Rebel leader flues a heavily modded Headhunter while the Inperial leader flies a TIE Hunter.

>>87922397
OH shit, that is a movie for me. It is all my favorite kinds of terrible. Oh god, this is some serious pop nerd shit folks.

>>87922391
Nobody wants Jedi pilots. They have that Force shit going for them. We want pilots that run on pure skill alone.

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>>87922446
TIE Hunters, don't often hear that variant come up.

>>87922446
>flues
*flies
>Inperial
*Imperial
I like your idea, but go to bed.

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>>87922543
TIE Defenders are superior.

>>87922397
All those new shots, nice. I'm a bit worried at the wacky Kaytoo bomb throw scene though.

It also just occurred to me: people (/tv/) have been giving Jyn shit for using "May the Force be with us" for seemingly no reason. But, Catalyst shows that her mother was big in the force-appreciation stuff, and she probably got it from her.

>>87922615
Is it just Jyn saying it or do they not realize that Han and General Dodanna both said it in ANH and Ackbar in RoTJ?

>>87922677
Anon, don't you know? OT purists ignore stuff like that and only poke fun at things that make the Prequels look contradicted.

>>87921692

An escort and assault group attached to an infantry division. They have to hit hard targets to let troops advance, keep TIE's and bombers off them, and keep the momentum of the rebellion going at all costs.

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Man, /swco/ I am so fucking BORED. And no new Rebels until tomorrow, or Sunday if I miss the stream. What are you anons up to?

>>87923137
Farming in TOR
I'm on the same boat as you in terms of boredom

>>87923207
Same, but I'm playing SWGemu.

>>87923137
Waiting for it to be Dec. 4 because of The Walking Dead.

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>>87921592
Still don't get why walkers exist (in-universe). I get the excuse is that some worlds don't let repulsorlifts work but wheels exist, with THIS beauty here

>>87923137
Fapping, of course

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>>87923238
As the wookie says: "Every walker was only as strong as its weakest joint."

Speaking of Juggernauts, anyone got that Webm of the the vehicle in RoTS rolling through the battlefield unloading a volley of missiles?

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>>87923416
Here

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5>4>6>7>3>1>2

>>87923465
Thanks.

>>87923486
Fuck off.

>>87923486
Eh I wouldn't put Diamond is Unbreakable that High, or Battle Tendency that low.

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>>87923238
To inflict terror in their enemies either from the sight and/or sound I suppose. It's pretty demoralizing seeing something like an AT-ST or AT-AT literally twisting it's head in your direction, guns trained on you while you're on foot. Practicality be damned.

>>87921692
Pacifist dustcropper pilot is tricked by a jealous friend to join the Empire. Now he must kill to survive so he can return to his peaceful life.

>>87923601
I think I'd be equally scared seeing a Juggernaut, though...like we know the real reason for walkers is the Rule of Cool, but eh. At least AT-TEs have the ability to scale vertical surfaces. which no wheeled vehicle can do. I wonder if other walkers are capable...

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>>87924050
Maul honestly looks like he's been colored in by a cheap set of textas.

>>87923610
So...Baron Fel (sort-of...)

>>87923859
Only the MT-AT, I know for sure but that's not a canon vehicle.

Maybe the AT-OT, UT-AT and AT-AP.

>>87924150
No, Area 88, Shin Kazama. Except without a love interest but a love interest would make the story a lot more dramatic.

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>>87924160
Ooh, new headcanon:

Clone Wars-era walkers were absurdly effective and had crazy capabilities like scaling vertically. When they became the Empire, with walkers being even more mass produced, propaganda of their lethality along with people's memories of their effectiveness led people to think that walkers were practically invincible. That's why they made them so unnecessarily huge, it's primarily for intimidation, since word of mouth and indoctrination would already make them think all is lost when seeing these walkers.

Maybe they also have easier maintenance than wheeled vehicles and repulsorlifts?

>>87924384
Or they build giant expensive things regardless of their effectiveness to justify a higher budget

>>87924422
You're missing the obvious connection. The reason their walkers are so tall is because of Vader. He learned the value of the high ground.

>>87924486
But luke was able to disable one from below, and even from luke's point of view he had the low ground. He didnt even spin

Only a force user can properly utilize sokan

>>87924550
Luke studied briefly under Kenobi. He probably can tap on his "Certain point of view" skill.

>>87922677

"may the force be with us" has always been kind of a generic saying.

Disney is also trying to change the force from just being a thing wizardy types use to being more of a generic religion regular people also practice in local ways. One of the main characters in Lost Stars believes in the force, in more of a Shamany kind of way.

>>87924050
>Maul goes from normal to thin to thinner
Being Maul is suffering

>>87924577
But like I said, even from Luke's point of view he didn't have the high ground

>>87924645
>Disney
LSG, anon.

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Daily reminder that spinning is a good trick. Unless you are 8th Brother.

>>87923207
What's the general consensus of TOR?

>>87924776
Look up TORtanic.

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>>87924776
Good source of laughs.

The best bits about the game are the BLUR cinematics.

>>87924645
It's not Disney's doing. The entire idea of non-users having their own religions centered around the Force came directly from Lucas. The Church of the Force (Lor San Tekka's group) was created for that live action show that never got off the ground.

>>87924648
Luke was flying moments before. He "had" the high ground for awhile.

>>87924830
Okay I gotta know more about this.

>>87924647
Every defeat sucks more life out

>>87924936
From what I can tell, it probably means Makeb, which was basically an entire planet of gay (It was the first to introduce gay LI's in TOR)

>>87920925
>4 ft luke skywalker
>$39
I fuckin' wish

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>>87924936
The game only had straight relationships before the update, which then introduced homosexual and lesbian options, but only on the planet Makeb. Because updating earlier parts of an MMO is quite a tedious process and this would normally be a non-issue, but this is Bioware's audience.

Hence the 'Gay Planet' segregation headlines.

>>87924647
>>87924948

At this point, I think Maul has pretty much given up, and his struggles are pretty much survival instinct and old habits. I mean, I credit the guy with enough intelligence that I doubt he genuinely thinks he and Ezra could ever even come close to challenging the Emperor and Vader, even without an (all but) uncontested Galactic Empire behind them.

I suppose you could make the argument that Maul is as true a Sith, and keeping the rule of two, as a long-term competitor. After all, Sheev did say he was a rival, before the beatdown. He might be thinking generations ahead, I guess.

>>87925142
According to Filoni, he's less obsessed with revenge now and just wants to have a legacy of his own, with a successor of his own.

But yeah, Maul was raised as a Sith so even if he's not trying to be one and is trying to do something separate, you can see that Sith mentality is still there. He's used nothing but a hammer his entire life so every problem is a nail to him.

>>87925088
>TFw ever since Makeb there's really only been two gay characters excluding the PC and one of them's a fucking potato
I just want to engage in some fucking yuri
Does that yuri have to involve a mashed vegetable?

>>87925208
>have a legacy of his own
MAUL IS SNOKE CONFIRM

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>>87925286

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https://deepdreamgenerator.com/generator-style

>>87925286
No, its already been confirmed that Snoke is Windu

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>>87925301

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When did the R6 droids start being canon again?

>>87925453
Probably the first canon appearance of one

>>87925453
>>87925490
One showed up in Poe

>>87925367
How can Snoke be Windu when Pablo confirmed that Finn is Windu after using Force De-age on himself and losing his memories?

>>87925208

It's a shame he didn't play his hand smarter. If he had never turned on Kanan, bided his time, then Maul could have 'joined' the Rebellion himself, and without the fact he fucked up Kanan between them he might well have succeeded in seducing Ezra long-term.

As it is, any dark ideas Ezra gets will be his own, and Maul is due to get fucked up by Kenobi.

>>87925682
Very few dark siders understand patience and the long game.

>>87924550
It's not like Vader made the AT-ATs Force users. Luke, even as badly trained as a joke as he is, managed to defeat one but the normies could only defeat them after they found a way to disable the legs and thus shorten their foe. Once the AT-AT lost the high ground it was easily destroyed.

>>87924648
Ah ah, anon, you're thinking like a low ground pleb. Obviously once Luke put himself at the same level of high ground as that hatch he defeated it, opening the way for his grenade which he further tossed upward into the AT-AT for extra high ground boost.

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>She will never gently violate you.
Why is life nothing but suffering? It's unfair ;-;

>>87924830
Man, those ain't gays. They're clearly robosexuals.

>>87925349
My, granny, what lovely hair you have.

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>>87925349

>>87925973
"Come on, Anakin! You must throw the one ring that Sidious gave you!"
"...What ring?"
"Didn't he give you a ring when he proposed?"
"DUDE! I illegally married Padme, not the Chancellor! I got her pregnant!"
"Oh. OH! Wow, I thought you were just sneaking her food and she was getting fat."

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>>87925973

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When are we getting him back, /swco/? He was with us so briefly, this dark knight, yet he has left an echo that haunts me still with every aired episode where he is the 'kid' padawan again.

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>>87926228
Edgera is hot!

>>87926228

I do love how there were entire episodes about his fear, and how terrified eh was of what a child considers the dark (caves and monsters), but that what eventually started him down the dark path was the trap pretty much 80% fall for - a pragmatic desire to strike back at those who have hurt him and those he loves. A mature fall for a maturing hero.

...if they ever fucking bring it up again, and that wasn't just a one off event.

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Rogue One tickets go on sale this monday, I don't know if you guys knew.

>>87926641

Oh... Well, that's nice. I guess. Suppose I'll go see it after the first few days, when it's a bit quieter, and on a school night so there are no screaming kids.

>tfw you can't get hype. WHY CAN'T GET HYPE?!?!

I just want to see Luke and Kylo again.

>>87926736
I'm going to Alamo Drafthouse, so I don't need to worry about screaming anyone. They're really strict about people not making noise/texting/etc during the movie.

>>87926641
>prequel quote
thine eyes have seen the glory

>>87927040

I remember in BvS there were obviously some girlfriends pissed that they had been taken to a guy flick and their men where actually watching the film, because all the fucking mobiles came out.

Why do 3d glasses make mobile screens into miniature suns? It was distracting as fuck.

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>>87926736
>I just want to see Luke and Kylo again
I feel you. It would be better if we had a teaser or something for VIII.

Also, you just made me remember when I went to watch TFA on opening night, it's amazing how you only seem to find the worst fucking laughs in theaters.

>>87927690
>It would be better if we had a teaser or something for VIII.
We might get one in front of Rogue One. Likely nothing major, but something on par with the first TFA teaser (the one that caused the massive /tv/ chimpout).

>>87927690
>I feel you. It would be better if we had a teaser or something for VIII.

It's like the desire for Ep8 is serving as anti-hype. I really just don't give a shit about Rogue One, even if I know I'll likely enjoy it. The visuals will be nice, and I get to see Vader again. But I honestly had more hype for Suicide Squad than this film.

It really is baffling me too, because I fucking love everything Star Wars, and was even hyped for the Clone Wars movie. Took my little bro to see it on the bus.

This? My family have made it a tradition to go see every Star Wars film since the prequels, and my mum has seen every one, but they turned down going to see this one with me because no Luke or Han.

>it's amazing how you only seem to find the worst fucking laughs in theaters.

Or the one person who stick their entire hand into their popcorn in quiet scenes and sounds like they are fucking digging for cock.

>>87927690
>>87927822
I wouldn't expect anything related to Ep8 until after Rogue One has been in theaters for a while. They're not going to overshadow Rogue One. It'd be suicide.

>>87927826
>but they turned down going to see this one with me because no Luke or Han.

Okay, that's my irritation speaking because it feels like a betrayal of a family tradition. They also had the same complaint I've quietly felt; that none of the trailers had any impact, and the tone just seemed off, like a high budget fanfilm.

>>87927851
A teaser that's directly attached to Rogue One doesn't overshadow it, though.

>>87927875
>like a high budget fanfilm.
TFA seems more like a fan film than what we've seen of Rogue One.

The sequel trilogy era in canon is just fucked. Can't build off a bad foundation.

>>87927932
I could see them putting the teaser in front of RO and then waiting a bit to put it up online, making RO the only way to see it for a week or two.

>>87927932
>A teaser that's directly attached to Rogue One doesn't overshadow it, though.
It does because then everyone will be talking about Ep8 instead of Rogue One

>>87927851
Yeah, that's what I was thinking. I guess until either may 4 or Star Wars Celebration then.

>>87927932
They won't do it if they feel Rogue One can stand on its own. If they think it needs help, they might pull this >>87927970 in order to get more people to come.

>>87926228
We'll probably see Edgra again either during the Wynkathu Job, when he and Kanan go after !Death Star Plans! or when Ezra has to go after Maul for magic raisans

And if we don't see him during that time we'll surely see his anger resurface in later seasons

>>87928727
I like Bobas sexy mom

>>87928814

That's not his mom. She want's to do terrible, terrible things to him.

>>87928829
terribly sexy things

Holy shit just realized felicity Jones played one of the 'mean' girls in the worst witch TV series

When are you guys watching rogue one? I'm watching it December 16th, 1200 EST

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"As trophies, they were superior to the pelts of hunted beings he knew some bounty hunters to affect. He admired the precision and care that had gone into the construction of the lightsabers; more, each seemed to retain a faint memory of its wielder. As a former swordmaster, he could appreciate that each had been handcrafted, rather than turned out in quantity like blasters or pike weapons.

He could respect the Jedi for that, though he had nothing but hatred for them as an Order.

Because of the remoteness of their homeworld, his species, the Kaleesh, had had few dealings with the Jedi. But then war had broken out between the Kaleesh and their planetary neighbors – a savage, insectile species known as the Huk. Grievous had become infamous during the long conflict: conquering worlds, defeating grand armies, exterminating entire colonies of Huk. But instead of surrendering, as would have been the honorable course, the Huk had appealed to the Republic to intercede, and the Jedi had arrived on Kalee. In what passed for negotiations – fifty Jedi Knights and Masters ready to loose their lightsabers on Grievous and his army – the Kaleesh were made to appear the aggressors. The reason was plain: where Kalee had little to offer in the way of trade, the Huk worlds were rich in ore and other resources lusted after by the Trade Federation and others.

Chastised by the Republic, the Kaleesh foundered. Sanctions and reparations were imposed; traders avoided the planet; Grievous’s people starved and perished by the hundreds of thousands.

Ultimately the InterGalactic Banking Clan had come to the rescue, helping with funds, reinstating trade, providing Grievous with a new direction.

Years later, the Muuns would come again…"


I miss the old backstory for Grievous. Same goes for Jango. Liked 'em because the Jedi had inadvertently created some of their worst enemies.

>>87929328
I meant 14th

>>87929367
I never liked Grievous's because it felt like it was stretching too hard to turn him into an sympathetic antihero. It's also hard to reconcile it with his mustache-twirling personality, to the point that they had to explain that his brain was tampered with during the process.

>>87929570
At least it wasn't as dumb as Durge's
>I hate every Mandalorian I see, and the clonetroopers are all clones of a Mandalorian, so I'm gonna kill me a bunch of clones!
It was also weird seeing the EU insist on Dooku's right-hand man being a bounty hunter just because Jango had been one. That was also why they made Cydon Prax, who they at least killed off quickly rather than trying to turn him into a major character.

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>>87929570
Ugh, call me an EUfag but I hated his mustache-twirliness in ROTS and afterward. CW, Labyrinth of Evil, and the Republic comics were his best version, IMO.

>>87929570
>I never liked Grievous's because it felt like it was stretching too hard to turn him into an sympathetic antihero
This. The Jedi had to become total idiots and outright bullies for his backstory to make sense, and that's saying something since the Jedi are already kind of stupid in that era. I think there are better ways to illustrate the Jedi's subservience to the senate beyond "hey Huk good Kaleesh bad go get em/dur okay lets get em guys"

The part where it just becomes laughable is that Sidious and Dooku are just absolutely so dead-set on this one guy becoming their monster general that they won't take no for an answer and have to engineer a shuttle crash to force him to become their minion. Grievous's origin story is so full of bizarre leaps of logic and outright cliches that you can tell it was written by a magazine writer.

>>87929737
My big problem with the old story is that it makes Grievous almost blameless. It's this big sob story that makes him a victim of outside forces and circumstances beyond his control, so he's then justified in becoming a monster because everyone else was a monster to him first.

What I like about his new backstory is that he's a victim of his own pride and frustration. He's doing this to himself because he's obsessed with passing a benchmark that he'll never reach, but can't accept his own shortcomings so he just keeps undergoing more and more "improvements." I like the idea Obi-Wan presented, that Grievous had actually been an honorable warrior at one point but he's completely lost sight of that because now he just cares about becoming better than someone else.

>>87929810
He wasn't blameless in the old backstory. Even before the whole Muun shebang, he murdered thousands of Huk/Yam'rii civilians

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General Kenobi, I'm ARC

>>87929680
Aren't Kaleesh digitigrade?

>>87929865
Yeah, but as a result of war. Everything that turned him into Grievous happened because someone else did something to him.

>>87929890
Some sources yeah, others not.

>>87926179
>Sabine's cheetos dust gets all over a star destroyer

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>>87929880

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>lives with PTSD
>everyone he grew up with is either dead or lost
>only knows a military life so he couldn't retire even if he wanted to
When does Rex get a good end?

>>87920925
That vacuum better be real.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC9AZPVIZhU

Is this war kino?

>>87926228
Would you people stop asking for Edgera to come back? You know that the more you ask the less chances you'll get it

>>87930450
Where is this from?

I like the Two tubes guy.

>>87930333
At the wrong end of the gun

>>87924830
>that pic
wtf i love TOR now

>>87930665
Rogue One

>>87930450
those rebels soldiers look like ISIS troops

>>87930728
Yeah, but what's the source for the image? Are there more?

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>>87930728
The Rebels ARE terrorists after all.

>>87930744
here. catch http://www.empireonline.com/movies/news/rogue-one-two-exclusive-images-show-bodhi-chirrut-baze/

>>87930744

>http://empireonline.media/jpg/100/0/0/0/0/aspectfit/0/0/0/0/0/0/c/articles/58381001faea66290c56d805/Chirrut-Baze-Rogue-One.jpg
>http://empireonline.media/jpg/70/0/0/0/0/aspectfit/0/0/0/0/0/0/c/articles/58381001faea66290c56d805/Bodhi-Rogue-One.jpg

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>>87930794

turn that 70 into a 100

>>87930760
>destroyed alderaan
>the first order destroyed like 10 planets
dude, the rebels are the bad guys here. They're the terrorists ;^)

>>87930770
>>87930794
Thanks!

>>87924422
>regardless of their effectiveness
You serious? At the battle of Hoth we see 5 of them completely destroy the rebels.

The rebels have air support and maybe a brigades worth of ground troops. They have ample time to dig in and prepare. And they have a Jedi.

Still, 5 AT-ATs overruns their position within 20 minutes. At the cost of only 2 units. I'd say that's amazingly effective.

>>87924710
Are tehy flying by spinning their lightsabers?

>>87928829
Elaborate.

>>87931452
Repulsorlifts in the sabers

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>tfw you know it's only a matter of time until an author of the new Star Wars movies compares the storm trooper armor to the ku klux klan uniforms to reinforce the image of the evil white supremacist organization Disney created for the empire, and people are going to eat that shit up

>>87929880
Some day, Fordo. Some day.

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>>87931724
>'kill that negro rebel, TK-682. Do it for the Klan'

>>87921692
>Something involving the Imperial Flight Academy, either pro-imperial or showing skilled pilots dropping out to join the Rebellion
>Poe Dameron stand alone
>Plo Koon stand alone, perfect balance between dog fighting and swordplay

>>87931785
I kek'd.

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>>87922397
>Walker equivalent of spitting out a tooth

>>87931724
>Labeled a racist for wanting to join the 501st

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>>87928829
Please elaborate.

http://www.starwarsnewsnet.com/2016/11/star-wars-weekly-buzz-new-rogue-one-images-and-interviews-and-more.html

>We’ve known for a while that J.J. Abrams has decided not to direct future Star Wars films. However, it seems that “The Force Awakens” director has a little regret about not being able to work more with Daisy Ridley and Mark Hamill.

>I’d be lying if I said there weren’t pangs of regret,”
>or get to work with Mark Hamill in a scene where he gets to speak.” he said

Yeah, I wonder who's fault that is.

>>87932358
The dude could've become the next poet after Lucas and he pussied out.

>>87930744
There's a giant watermark reading EMPIRE

>>87921711

WTF? Did they actually use miniatures during Attack of the Clones? Reverse image is suggesting this is a recent photo.

>>87932602
Tell me you don't actually think there were no practical effects in the prequels

>>87932602
yeah, and real sets, but there were too much post-processing it's barely noticeable.

>>87932602
You still think the prequels were majority CGI?
Each prequel had more practical effects than the OT combined according to one of the guys who worked on ROTS.

>>87932649
>but there were too much post-processing it's barely noticeable.
Not true at all.
That's just something you tell yourself to justify your baseless hatred of 3 great films.

Okay stop
Stop right now

>>87932602
Attack of the Clones was almost entirely miniatures for anything that couldn't be done completely practically.

IIRC contrary to popular belief, the only fully CGI set in the entire movie was the factory scene

>>87932675
eh, I don't hate them. I just think they could've been much better.

>>87932707
Kamino?

>>87932707
>IIRC contrary to popular belief, the only fully CGI set in the entire movie was the factory scene
And this was only done because Lucas got shaken by the plebs who thought that TPM's politics wre boring, so he opted for an action sequence over the cut footage that you can find online that is more political or character driven.

Stupid fucking SW fans.
I really would have liked to have kept Padme's family in the movie, as well as Obi-Wan's extended library scene with Jocasta Nu, and his scene with the Jedi analysis droids (those guys a re cool looking).

>>87932736
Digitally inserted into miniatures.

>>87932715
>I just think they could've been much better.
They are on par with the OT.
You need to realize that the OT is massively overhyped.
They aren't even close to perfect. Empire comes closest, but loses something of the whimsy of ANH with its grim pallette and tone.
Also the AT AT scene is terrible.

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>>87932736
Kamino, again contrary to popular belief, was practical sets and some practical miniatures where needed.

Pic related

>>87932811
Kamino is so A E S T H E T I C.

Lama Su's close ups look better than CGI today.

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>>87932811
I wanna add that even the long, shiny "perfect" corridors were also practical, despite it being a go-to complaint about how "obviously cgi" it all was.

There was also a picture of Ewan in the corridor outside Jango's room which was practically built too. Couldn't dig it up, but it isn't hard to find this stuff if you look. I think theforce.net had a compilation thread showing it all.

The "everything is CGI" complaint really is one of the biggest memes, and the most widespread misconception about the movies. People just needed a smart-sounding complaint to express their disapproval of the non-OT aesthetic choices that Lucas made. (everything has to be old and rusty except for the bad guys who must be black/grey/shiny-white with TIE Fighters!)

At WORST there was some blue screen scenes where the actors would be added to miniature sets, but this almost never happened outside of Geonosis in Episode 2.

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Is he a good character?

>>87932958
Good actor, bad character.

He's not "Anakin done right".
He's "Anakin filtered through a focus group".

>>87932954
>People just needed a smart-sounding complaint to express their disapproval of the non-OT aesthetic choices that Lucas made.
Nail on the fucking head.
"Not muh" in the extreme is what it is.

>>87932954
>>87932811

I can absolutely guarantee to you that despite JJ's aggressive anti-CGI "them silly prequels, wink wink, nod nod" marketing, TFA has a larger amount of reliance on CGI than the Prequels.

From the Rathtars, the the completely CGI """"space battle"""", there was far less miniatures in TFA than the Prequels, be it vehicles or sets. The Prequels often built miniatures for vehicles too, which I don't believe TFA did. Even pre-mocap tech Jar Jar had a stupidly expensive placeholder puppet built, which while a silly waste of money, still shows the length Lucas would go to to make things as convincing as possible before and after the CGI was applied to his movies.

Did you know that not only was the volcanic terrain of Mustafar a huge practical "miniature" with a pump system for lava, and they even went and filmed an erupting volcano during production?

Also, the most insulting thing about JJ's marketing was that the practical effects weren't even impressive.

5 minutes into the movie, you're treated to the shittiest looking bird puppet of all time. Then when Admiral "isnt-he-dead-yet?" Ackbar shows up, his mouth just flaps like a fucking childs toy, when Episode 3 had fully functioning Mon Calamari masks with realistic facial movements.

Anybody who EVER fucking tells me "b-but at least TFA was practical again :) " can absolutely go fuck themselves until they educate themselves.

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>>87932811
The final product still looks cartooney, though.

>>87933082
...I don't agree.
I find it weird that people like you just can't give up the ghost.

>>87933077
>his mouth just flaps like a fucking childs toy, when Episode 3 had fully functioning Mon Calamari masks with realistic facial movements.
this still pisses me off
Lucas should kill JJ for fun.

>>87932954
Didn't help that that scene was deliberately filmed washed out to emphasize how sterile Kamino was.

>>87933077
Could it be TFA used CGI right (except the rathars)?

>>87933149
Nope. The only way it used CG 'right' was by being made past 2013. Every CG technique used was used in the prequels.

>>87933149
Not really. While there was some impressive CGI (It would be hypocritical to try deny it or say that TFA looks bad) there was still places where it was overblown and messy.

TFA looks fine, but this is primarily because it was made in 2015, whereas the Prequels were actually pioneering the technology at the time. Of course TFA's CGI is going to look more polished.

Jar Jar was one of the first ever humanoid/protagonist CGI characters ever put to film. The wide establishing shots blending miniatures and CGI were the first of their kind. Episode 2 was one of the first films to ever use digital filming technology, and Episode 3 was one of the first to ever use mocap.

As >>87933182 said, the techniques used now are basically the same (except TFA used way less miniatures and more straight CGI where applicable)

It's just Lucas and ILM were pioneering the technology and visuals at the time, doing stuff never done before, whereas TFA is using more polished and refined stuff that has become mainstay special effects over the past decade, so of course it's going to look better nowadays.

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AOTC is a very good film.

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>>87933082
That looks fine for 2002, but Lama Su's close up's look INCREDIBLE to this day.

>>87933292
I kinda see why some anons here have expressed desire to fuck Kaminoans.

They're visually stunning, and realistic enough to wonder what it would feel like...

>>87933292
*close ups
whoops

>>87932555
I'm no 'murican, you think I'm well versed in US papers?

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Just bought the Ahsoka novel, won't get a chance to read it until later. Don't care about spoilers, what is /swco/'s opinion on it?

>>87933260
I know a guy who actually believes that. And I'll say to you what I said to him.
No.

>>87933417
I think you could have googled 'rogue one empire' pretty easily

>>87933431
>No.
You lied to your acquaintance though.

>>87933431
it's kinda weak

main arc's pretty dull

it's like a mediocre TCW episode

Like, you know that episode with the younglings and the trandoshans? Did what the novel was trying to do better

>>87924776

WOW clone, without all the optimizations that made WOW become even more popular.

Also, terrible animations, their focus on the story makes me wish they made books or comics. The story aspect of the game really only serves at times to excuse why you are fighting a bunch or robots at one time and then fighting a bunch of slightly stronger robots the next in the same room.

Pvp is really unbalanced, with an obvious empire bias.

The design of the world is also really awkward, with buildings being way too big, probably because they expected hundreds of people to be populating the maps, but sadly it ends up feeling lonely, and it becomes a walking game, you end up trying to disable the sound of footsteps because its the only thing that you hear at times and it gets on your nerves.

>>87933438
Naaah, I'm not smart enough for that

>>87933431
>Just bought the Ahsoka novel, won't get a chance to read it until later. Don't care about spoilers, what is /swco/'s opinion on it?
It's ok. Straight down the middle of the road in every way. You'll enjoy it if you like Ahsoka as a character, and want to see a few of the changes she made to become the girl we see in Rebels.

>>87933431
It's probably the most "okay" canon novel so far. Not good, not bad, not particularly memorable. Just... okay.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3rhXOFLfWg&feature=youtu.be
>Rogue One: A Star Wars Story Exclusive Look | Disney Holiday Celebration

>>87933581
ehhhhhhh

I think this movie is going to be really bland.

>>87933581
Okay, as nice as the AT-AT recovery was, they could've left that out of the trailer

>>87933581
the main girl is terrible desu, the rest looks like average Marvel

>>87933888
>the main girl is terrible desu
She's what's keeping from getting eited about it.

>inb4 you hate women
No, this girl just can't act.
>I rebel
>Rebellions are built on hope
She says these so badly.

>>87932358
>>87932447
I'm not the biggest fan of JJ but you guys give him way too much shit. It was obvious TFA was effected by executive meddling. They did not want a mixed or varied movie. They wanted a smashing success which is why we see so many retreads. Disney had a lot riding on the success of this movie so they weren't going to waste it.

>>87934060
>give him way too much shit.
The only person who gets too much shit from the SW community is Lucas.

JJ made his bed (with practical effects). Now he lies in it.

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Post unpopular Star Wars opinions.

I thought Maz Kanata was a cool character and I want to learn more about her.

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>>87934206
i'm out
c ya

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>>87934206
I like Sabine.

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>>87934060
>>87934101

I'm not one for defending JJ, but pic related deserves some blame as well. Does JJ deserve most of it? Probably. Choosing to consult a long time confirmed OT-babby elitist over the creator of Star Wars (especially when he was offering) is definitely worth getting shit on.

>>87934206
Black female yoda.

Do you know how happy I was when I heard Lupita was going to be in Ep 7? I had really hoped she would play Finn's Mom and it would turn out she was Luke's one time hookup.

Instead, because Jews are Jews, she was a Yoda ripoff in this remake.

>>87934101
Oh stop it. Disney was in full control during production of TFA. Don't be a child. No studio wants to take risks and lose profit. After seeing the critical reaction from the prequels, it's extremely understandable Disney wanted the film to play ultra safe.

This whole idea of JJ hating the prequels and doing everything in his power to spite them is a myth that needs to be stomped out. He's a film director that was asked by a studio to make a a movie. That's it.

>>87933925
it's not even the actress, it's the character that actress plays. If they were going for a Smug British Cunt type, they succeeded.

>>87934269
Why in Christ's name did you want Finn to be Luke's son?

>>87934278
>He's a film director that was asked by a studio to make a a movie.

He also wrote the movie and was responsible for the 'creative' decisions.

>>87934295
It would've been more interesting than a 'muh dick' Janitor?

Also, literally every other actor they hinted at could've been Luke's kid.

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>>87934278
>After seeing the critical reaction from the prequels, it's extremely understandable Disney wanted the film to play ultra safe.
This would be convincing, I guess, to someone who doesn't know that you are factually mistaken.

>>87934269
>>87934295

More importantly, why would she fuck with a man who's old enough to be her father?

>>87934318
Was it JJ or Disney who was responsible for the Nazi-like control over even the tiniest bit of information about TFA getting out? They put the actors on one of the tightest leashes possible and it turned out to be pointless because 90% of the movie was nothing we hadn't seen before.

>>87934251
In my original rant I was going to blame Pegg but I suspect he was picked to reassure long time fans(Gen Xers like Mike, Jay and Rich) they should get out and see this movie. The entire marketing campaign was based on nostaglia they grew up with and introduced their kids too.

>>87934328
Did Pablo conduct the research himself? What are his sources?

>>87934328
None of this matters as it was a soft remake of the original film, like all the other crap coming out. It's safer to make it a 'sequel' than a pure remake.

>>87934206
Honestly, the more I watch the movie, the more she grows on me.

Also, I prefer the space battle and bounty hunters over the whole jedi/sith thing

>>87924050
I really do love rebels kenobi

>>87930450
Is that my bro Plo Koon? ;_;

>>87934370
God forbid that anyone watch anything older than they are.

...but that's more of a /tv/ thing that really doesn't belong here, so I'll shut up now.

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>>87934350
Flashback like the Star Trek remake with deaged Luke, perhaps she's stuck in force stasis, etc.

Luke's a fucking Jedi pimp.

>>87924050
>Rebels Luminara's eyes

I had a cat with those kind of eyes. She looked like an abuse victim

>>87934355
>In my original rant I was going to blame Pegg but I suspect he was picked to reassure long time fans

He wasn't. He was picked because he's a friend of JJ who knows (or thinks he knows) more about Star Wars than JJ does. He wouldn't have been involved at all if it weren't for JJ.

>>87934269
Aside from being a short and old alien she's not really like Yoda at all.

>>87934398
>like that old film in the snow?

>>87934410
>Luke's a fucking Jedi pimp.

Well thankfully, he isn't. I don't think the Jedi code allows for that kind of shit.

>>87934206
I hate the Force and hope it gets destroyed in the final sequel movie.

>>87934440
>allows
The Jedi code wasn't in the Original Trilogy, it's Prequel trash.

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>>87934450

>>87934450
>I want SW to end forever by killing the one thing that holds life together in the galaxy

>>87934460
>The Jedi code wasn't in the Original Trilogy

It is now.

>>87934481
Maybe it's for the best, especially in light of the recent batch of material

>>87934359
Internal statistics and data of Lucasfilm Ltd.

>>87934508
I think it's crazy to think people don't like the Prequels. Kids grew up with those and the Clone Wars cartoons. Plus, the original trilogy aged like shit.

>>87934505
I know Aftermath trilogy wasn't the best, anon, but that's no reason to kill SW. If the immense amount of shit in Legends didn't do it, it won't happen now.

>>87934587
Legends garbage isn't pushed every 5 minutes ondemand commercials.

So what will the traditional SW opening shot be for R1? Or do you think they will do away with seeing a space vessel in the first shot along with the other traditional SW things (no crawl, no Williams music)

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>>87934655
I think it'll still feature a ship. Likely will be the scene where Krennic comes to take Galen and Jyn.

>>87934318
The majority of those creative decisions came from others especially higher ups like Kennedy. See the concept art and behind the scenes. They had a lot of ideas but they stuck to what would bring fans in and make them like the movie.

>>87934328
Have you actually looked at the prequels critical ratings? Compared to the OT they were panned and split the fanbase. I love the prequels with AOTC being my favorite but I'm not going to pretend those films didn't split the fanbase apart. That's not a risk Disney wanted with TFA. They went with the assumption everyone was introduced to the OT because their parents watched it. So what better way to get people to like this film than to give them something they're familiar with?

>>87929367
I miss it too anon

Battlefront is under $10 on PSN for Black Friday. Worth it?

>>87933925
>>I rebel
They have changed that line

>>87933082
Kaminoans are so hot

>>87934206
Kylo Ren's design is cooler than Vader's
Not better character, better design

>>87934892
Is is the "finished fucking game edition"? if so yes.

>>87934892
Only if it includes all the DLC

>>87932958
Yes. He's a very interesting villain. Definitely a million steps up from tattoo villain, old man villain, and cartoon skeleton villain.

>>87934101
>implying Lucas didn't screw himself
All JJ did was embrace practical effects. Lucas did far worse. Like the SE.

>>87934206
The prequels are good. ESB is objectively the worst Star Wars movie ever. Bad pacing, amirite?

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>>87935238
>All JJ did was embrace practical effects.

No, JJ gave the illusion of doing so while actually limiting himself to very few varieties of practical effects and then using CGI for the rest.

Lucas ACTUALLY embraced practical effects, because the prequels used a wide variety of them in addition to CGI technologies, some of which it developed or advanced.

>Lucas did far worse. Like the SE.
The SE did more good for the OT than bad.

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>>87935293
>The SE did more good for the OT than bad.
Top kek

>>87935293
All three of those Blu-ray shots look better than the originals desu. Is that what this image is supposed to prove?

>>87935293
How did Lucas embrace practical effects if he keeps forcing CGI down our throats with the SE?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFicXlvJBdo&list=FLdSuXSeQXpX_Xax4qNKMnlw&index=5

Just found this today, fucking kek

>>87935341
He just went around the rocks. You can see the opening on the right side.

>>87935341
That doesn't negatively effect the movie though.

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>>87935341
I didn't say there were no bad or pointless changes shitposter. I said that the changes did more good than bad.

>>87935388
Yes.

>>87935393
Because he doesn't. You can get versions without the changes if you really want. But the Blu Ray versions of the OT look so much better than the unaltered versions.

And, like I said(which you seem to have ignored) the prequels had a wide variety of practical effects in them alongside CGI.

>>87929810
It doesn't justify it, rather self righteousness very easily leads to evil because of how it makes it easier in his own head to justify atrocities. If you have a mustache twirler either they're complete puppy kicking kitten drowning psychopath Dr.Evils (which is boring) or their believed righteous ends justify their horrific means (which is most of history in a nutshell).

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>>87935293
Can't agree. Even the nice CG X-Wings look cartoony and bulbous compared to their original counterparts.

>>87935460

It's old news. But still good stuff.

>>87935504
>look cartoony and bulbous compared to their original counterparts.
No they don't. They look just about the same, the only noticeable difference is that the shot doesn't look washed out

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>>87925887
>extra high ground boost.

>>87935470
>You can get versions without the changes if you really want.
No you can't. Lucas went to all the efforts to keep the unaltered versions away. It's disrespectful. I don't like CG rocks. I don't care for alien asses taking up the screen. I prefer Jason Wingreen Boba Fett and the CG beak on the Sarlaac looks horrendous.

>>87927826
>digging for cock.

Do people go looking for cock in this manner?

>>87935575
>CG beak on the Sarlaac

My theory is that that was only added so people would stop saying it looks like a vagina or a butthole.

>>87933417
EMPIRE is a British movie magazine. And Google is also a thing.

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>>87935575
>No you can't.
The 2006 DVDs had versions without the changes, and fans have created a wide variety of versions without the changes. Don't even try to deny it.

>I don't like CG rocks. I don't care for alien asses taking up the screen. I prefer Jason Wingreen Boba Fett and the CG beak on the Sarlaac looks horrendous.
Well then, track down copies of the 2006 DVDs, or download Harmy's Despecialized Editions, or any of the other billions of "unaltered" versions.

>>87935341
>cherrypicking the meme "bad" stuff and ignoring the objectively great stuff that the other anon posted
okay then

>>87923486

6 > 5 > 1 > 7 > 4 > 3 > 2

>>87935542
No I see it. Cannons look bigger, wings look smaller, and I hate how the nose is colored tan now.

>>87935653
2006 DVDs have shit quality, retard. We want an unedited blu ray release. Not by the fans but by Lucasfilm or Disney or whatever. Lucas is too cowardly to do so.

>>87935179
>cartoon
>>87935504
>cartoony
Why do you keep using this as an insult? You do realize this is the Comics and CARTOONS general, right?

>>87934508
So nothing that anyone will ever see? Nothing that has been peer reviewed by outside eyes?

Pablo is just spouting shit that you want to hear.

>>87935728
>m-m-muh conspiracy theory!!
Kindly fuck off.

>>87935681
>No I see it. Cannons look bigger, wings look smaller, and I hate how the nose is colored tan now.
None of those things make it "cartoony" or "bulbous" though. The cannons aren't that much bigger(it's mostly the change in angle) and the tan coloration doesn't bother me.

>>87935709
>2006 DVDs have shit quality, retard. We want an unedited blu ray release.

Nice job moving goalposts. You have a variety of options, including HD fanmade versions.

>Not by the fans but by Lucasfilm or Disney or whatever.

You're never going to see an official version, the cost of making an official restoration does not justify it being made.

>Lucas is too cowardly to do so.
No, he just didn't want to, and Lucasfilm and Disney don't either.

>>87935728
It doesn't need to be peer reviewed or other bullshit to be reliable information. It would be silly to assume that a company is just going to release internal statistics and data to the public. Pablo Hidalgo is a longtime employee of Lucasfilm Ltd. and is trustworthy.

>>87935655
All SW fans do this.

>>87934547
>Plus, the original trilogy aged like shit.

Oh come now. Everyone on here defends Lucas like he's there own father, but then shit on his first Star Wars movies. The ones that started it all.

>>87935846
"Started it all" isn't enough to protect it from criticism.

>>87935781
>None of those things make it "cartoony" or "bulbous" though.
Well to you and any Lucasite but I love the X-Wings to death. I love starfighters in general, but those CG X-Wings just don't look good. The bulbous parts, shortened wings, blueish tint, tan nose, it's pretty bad.

>>87935656
1 so close to the front.
3 so close to the end.

You have some weird taste in movies, anon.

>>87935846
Because Lucas wasn't really as involved with them as the prequels. People held his hand the entire time because Lucas was never a good writer. Prequel babies know this which is why they prefer the PT. It's his "true vision".

>>87935885
>Well to you and any Lucasite
No need to start calling people names because you don't agree with their opinion.

>but I love the X-Wings to death. I love starfighters in general, but those CG X-Wings just don't look good.
They do. I love X-Wings too, and starfighters, and I have no issue at all with the CGI X-Wings.

>The bulbous parts, shortened wings, blueish tint, tan nose, it's pretty bad.
It's not though. There are no noticeably "bulbous" parts. The cannons are at most slightly longer.

The wings aren't any shorter, if anything they're slightly longer.

There's no bluish tint, and the tan nose is fine, it's barely noticeable.

>>87935877
But to say they look like shit is a bit of a stretch. Plenty of shitty effects were in movies during the time of the OT, and after. The effects in the OT are really impressive compared to other films from the time. Of course if you compare ANH to a special effects movie of today, it's going to look dated.

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>prequel trilogy arguments

These are still happening? I mean, they couldn't be more irrelevant at this point

>>87935781
>It doesn't need to be peer reviewed

So if Marlboro tells you that their product doesn't cause cancer, you'll just believe them?

Come on?

>>87935781
>It would be silly to assume that a company is just going to release internal statistics and data to the public. Pablo Hidalgo is a longtime employee of Lucasfilm Ltd. and is trustworthy.

Of course they're going to stay middle of the road regardless of collected data. Saying anything else would cause even more of a rift in their fanbase.

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>>87935990
>So if Marlboro tells you that their product doesn't cause cancer, you'll just believe them?
No, that's completely different. Marlboro didn't invent cigarettes and are not the only manufacturer of cigarettes.

Lucasfilm Ltd. are the owners and "inventors" of Star Wars, and they would have statistical information and data about which demographics enjoy which trilogy.


>>87936008
>Of course they're going to stay middle of the road regardless of collected data. Saying anything else would cause even more of a rift in their fanbase.
Then why would Pablo say that the PT is more popular overall if he was trying to stay in the middle ground?

>>87934359
>>87935728
Why would he need to research it himself? Lucasfilm has people who research markets and know how well they do from region to region, and across demographics. Both they and Disney, I can promise you, researched it thoroughly prior to the sale. This was to determine the value of what Disney was interested in buying. George didn't just pull a figure out of his ass and Disney said, "Fine, we'll make out a check written out to Cash." This is GEORGE. He actually had a detailed mountain of paperwork for everything Disney was buying, including the EU. I'm sure Disney could have cared less about Mara Jade or the Sun Crusher but Lucas is a stickler for details and wanted everything they were getting documented.

You can check other sources yourself. For instance we've known for some time that China loves the Prequels and sources indicate they rate it higher than TFA. A common enough explanation/excuse for this is the Prequels were the first Star Wars movies released officially in China back when their cinema market was much smaller than it is today. A rehash of the OT didn't impress them much.

>>87936090
Besides, Marlboro was responding to evidence mounted against them, something this anon has yet to show beyond his own insistence.

Let's just all agree the SE looks like shit. There was nothing wrong with the original version. Don't fix something that isn't broken. Lucasites will never understand this.

>>87936090
>Then why would Pablo say that the PT is more popular overall if he was trying to stay in the middle ground

He said International knowing full well that people in the States don't give two shits about other countries.

>>87936203
>He said International knowing full well that people in the States don't give two shits about other countries.
Ah, so you're backpedaling. Gotcha.

>>87936090
>Lucasfilm Ltd. are the owners and "inventors" of Star Wars, and they would have statistical information and data about which demographics enjoy which trilogy

If you believe anything without seeing some sort of collected date then you are an idiot.

If Gene Roddenberry walked up and said STAR TREK was ranked best sci-fi world wide, was asked how he knows this, and responds JUST TRUST ME then any sane person would call bullshit.

And then also wonder how he was resurrected.

>>87936255
You're comparing a company whose job it is to know that stuff to a single person. That doesn't work the same way.

>>87936212
My main point is that without seeing these so called stats it's fucking stupid to just believe them, but you do because it's what you want to be true.

And as far as back peddling, I'm merely altering the reasoning of my stance given new information. But my stance itself has remained unchanged. Learn to debate.

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>>87936302
You are missing my point.

It is stupid to trust stats that you haven't seen. If any person or company or anything tells you something and then tells you that you aren't allowed to see the actual data, you'd be stupid to believe it.

>>87936315
>My main point is that without seeing these so called stats it's fucking stupid to just believe them, but you do because it's what you want to be true.
It's equally stupid to just deny them because you don't have the clearance to see that information, but you do what you want because it's what you don't want to be true.

>>87936362
>It's equally stupid to just deny them because you don't have the clearance to see that information

I'm pretty sure not believing in shit that you haven't seen is a pretty common standard for believing things.

>>87936343
Awesome!

>>87935504
The only problem I have with that is that they all use the same model. There are slight differences in the filming model because they're actual models.

>cartoony and bulbous
You're retarded.

>>87936411
>I'm pretty sure not believing in shit that you haven't seen is a pretty common standard for believing things.
Not when the company is trustworthy and has no reason to lie about said information.

>>87936343
almost a big guy

>>87936430
>Not when the company is trustworthy and has no reason to lie about said information.

You just keep drinking that Kool-aid anon.

Also, if I say I don't believe something that a Lucasfilm employee says, I have already established that I find them untrustworthy. So if something that they say ina tweet can't be backed up by data that I can see with my own eyes I'm gonna call bullshit.

>>87936485
>Also, if I say I don't believe something that a Lucasfilm employee says, I have already established that I find them untrustworthy.

You haven't given any concrete reasons why you think that.

>So if something that they say ina tweet can't be backed up by data that I can see with my own eyes I'm gonna call bullshit.

Well then you do that, but you're just going to sound stupid. You can't seriously expect a company to release confidential data to the public if they don't want to.

A trustworthy employee of said trustworthy company saying a basic rundown of what the data they have concluded should be enough.

>>87936343
It's gonna be surreal to see him and Mon Mothma interact as they did over a decade ago in Episode 3.

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>>87936485
>I have already established that I find them untrustworthy

>>87936485
>the world is out to get me!!!!!!

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>>87936343
>tfw the last scene we see him in is something like this near the end

>>87936430
>Not when the company is trustworthy and has no reason to lie about said information.

You think companies never tell lies about their products? We're you born yesterday?

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>>87932602
Yeah, apparently. I seen a lot more images of them ages ago.
I'm actually annoyed that people made me believe that they were all completely CGI.

>>87936616
Really?

>>87936644
>You think companies never tell lies about their products? We're you born yesterday?
No, but Lucasfilm so far has established a level of trust with fans. Of course there ARE companies that lie about their products, but we have no reason to believe Lucasfilm is one of those companies.

Stop assuming things like you're some brain-dead toddler.

>>87933077
>TFA has a larger amount of reliance on CGI than the Prequels.
JJ actually complained that the BB-8 puppet couldn't really do a lot. In the end, most shots of BB-8 are either fully CGI or CGI-assisted (for example, attaching a pole to BB-8 and having a guy literally rolling him through scenes, then digitally erasing the guy).

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>>87932602
Yeah, they did. That image in particular is one I found on lucasfilm's website.

There were plenty of sets, miniatures, models, etc.

>>87936703
>Stop assuming things like you're some brain-dead toddler

I'm the one who doesn't blindly follow tweets and treat them as absolute facts.

I don't think you have a firm understanding of what braindead means.

>>87936343
I wonder if we'll get Alderaan too