Explain to me what exactly is wrong with this fight and why

It's a meme to pretend that the prequels are worse than the OT.

/thread

>>76607085
>Meta memes
Kys

>>76607085
they are worse, but not because of that fight

They just ripped off the matrix lol
There's no emotion lol
The characters don't have any history with each other, robbing the scene of any narrative impact lol
It should be like the Vader and luke fights from ESB and ROTJ lol

lol

>>76607142
Kek, but I hate you

Some looney nitpicky guy who must be some kind of fencing specialist made a video about it, analyzing the sequence sometimes FRAME BY FRAME (anti PT are looney) because of course lightsabers fantasy fights have to be realistic you know... so the RLM sheeple followed as always.

In technical terms: It's over-choreographed. There's no real sense that an actual fight is happening, because it looks like people are going through a dance routine. This is made worse by the obvious stage combat-oriented moves in the fight; none of the strikes are actually aimed at a person or look like they're intended to do much of anything. Overall, there isn't a sense of danger and fight comes off as three people swinging around glow sticks.

In terms of story: There's no real motivation for the fight. Darth Maul, a character with no real background or motivation, just shows up and Obi-wan and Qui-gon fight him for no reason. The characters don't know each other and nothing is really at stake.

It's pretty to look at if really busy choreography is your thing, but it's not impressive and doesn't contribute anything to the story.

>>76607060
https://youtu.be/J0mUVY9fLlw

Episode One is good

The third reich was good

>>76607247
Yeah I was gonna post that

>>76607060
It's quite good except that too many strikes looks like they miss on purpose, and the ending is retarded. Overall the lightsabre fights in the prequels feels a bit weak because they're too active. There are so many spins and twirls and blocks that it doesnt feel like a life or death fight anymore.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tMZdrUx8eM&t

is better because it doesnt involve fencing.

>>76607198
Went to the bathroom and someone basically wrote my post. However, I'll disagree that Darth Maul is a weak point. I think his role as a faceless warrior makes him cooler than the average prequel character. He looks crazy but barely speaks. In a better movie he couldve made a real impression.

>>76607247
this

this thread is why is /tv/ is a meme board

and i wouldn't have it any other way

>>76607198
>>76607330
>>76607359

You see OP, as I told you, they're all repeating what their meme video told them.

Menace Phanthom fight was MUCH better than ANH. Fuck your fencing specialist.

>>76607060

The characters have almost no history, so there's less emotional tension.
Things move so fast on screen that it doesn't really build up any suspense until the breaks in the action near the end.
Darth maul isn't a character, hes a fucking putty patroller with no dialogue.
It's basically a video game boss battle

None of this means i hate the fight, I don't mind it, but it's all endemic to why the prequels were inferior. Original trilogy had some cool action, sure, but at it's core it was a space *opera* with deep and interesting character drama. Not a cgi sci-fi action romp.

>>76607411
If you'd seen some good martial arts movies you'd be able to tell the difference in intensity. It has NOTHING to do with whether or not the techniques they use are realistic or not.

>>76607556
This. It's the same reason I don't really like the main fight in The Princess Bride; it just comes off as people having a conversation while twirling around car antennas to me.

It's not hard to pick up on intensity, or implied danger, in a fight when you've seen in done well.

>>76607247
That fight could have been so much better if they gave Darth Maul two lightstabers instead of that stupid double sided meme saber

>>76607499
the original SW there isnt much to go on betwen Obi Wan and vader just shit obi wan tells you in the first 5 moments of the film.
ESB and ROTJ retroactively add weight to the fight as you get more info on vader and obi wan.

>>76607717
That fight isn't about obiwan and Vader, it's about Luke and obiwan with some incidental character building for Vader

>recently finally watched TFA
>liked it well enough but made me wanna rewatched the other six films
>literally JUST watched TPM last night
Are you spying on me, /tv/?

This fight was still pretty fun, honestly. Quin-Gon was gone way too soon though.

I remember being hyped as fuck over this movie as a kid in '99.

>>76607060
This whole scene is kino in it's purest form

>be me
>7 years old
>in theater with my mom
>watching Episode 1
>the movie is nearing its conclusion
>"stay in the ship Anakin"
>my heart starts racing
>doors open
>mysterious figure appears
>"we'll handle this"
>turn to my mom with a big smile on my face in anticipation
>maul ignites his lightsaber
>the two jedi ignite theres
>Duel of the Fates starts playing
>"KORAH, MATAH, KORAH, MATAH, KORAHHHHH"
>have never heard music of this magnitude before
>literally transfixed to the screen
>they're fighting
>the fight is entertaining, these jedi are obviously in their prime
>the fight isn't a boring slugfest
>it's getting more intense
>the music getting more louder
>time passes
>maul is waiting for the shields to lower, qui-gon meditating, obi-wan right behind them
>qui-gon and maul start fighting, obi still waiting
>jinn dies
>my jaw drops
>obi's yell resonates with my soul
>the shields lower
>obi and maul start dueling
>no music, just the sounds of their lightsaber
>the flashes when their sabers hit visible over my eye pupils
>my intense gaze could tear a hole thru the theater screen
>maul gets the upperhand
>all hope looks to be lost
>obi suddenly taps into the force
>does a super jedi flip
>slices maul
>"HOLY CRAP MOM!"
>my life now forever changed

Thank you for this beloved memory Based George. Disney will never, EVER recreate this type of magic and mysticism for the kids of today. All they'll get are boring saber fights with faux-emotions and uninspired film capeshit-esque stock music scores to accompany them.

>>76607556
>good martial arts movies
It's worth point out that Nick Gillard, who choreographed the fights in the prequel trilogy, apparently has no qualifications as a swordsman, martial artist, or even a fight choreographer. Since it was such a high profile gig, you'd assume he'd be able to brag about his qualifications, but all I've ever seen about his background is that he was a circus performer and he had done some stunt work.

For the OT, even though the fights weren't the focus at all, at least Lucas had the sense to hire a highly respected fencer and movie fight choreographer.

>>76607060
Lightsaber have no weight behind their moves
To much checking instead of hitting
To much choreographed

>>76607895
did your mom whip your ass for saying a swear word

>>76607411
kek

even Kylo vs Finn and Rey is better that that this shit.

>>76607895
Good post. Especially right about the music

There are no stakes whatsoever. They just fight because of reasons.

>>76607198
>There's no real sense that an actual fight is happening, because it looks like people are going through a dance routine. This is made worse by the obvious stage combat-oriented moves in the fight; none of the strikes are actually aimed at a person or look like they're intended to do much of anything. Overall, there isn't a sense of danger and fight comes off as three people swinging around glow sticks.

So like the OT?

it looks amazing and the music is incredible

regarding the fight you could say its over choreographed but it's high-stakes combat - highly skilled and any mistake is fatal.

I reckon the biggest mistake of this fight was killing off Darth Maul.

One of the better characters in the prequels, snuffed out before his time.

Qui-Gon

Gon=Gone

it's gone

>>76608194
>any mistake is fatal.
But they only want to tap each others swords

>>76608309
What's Qui?

>>76608309
like lucastry

>>76607198
>fight comes off as three people swinging around glow sticks
Really makes you think of the original trilogy.

>>76608304
Yeah and they don't develope nothing of his character either. I think that with 5 minutes of the movie developing his background or showing him more would have been enough.

Also as you said, it would have been great if him were the apprentice in the two other movies. Christopher Lee it's a great actor but the character of darth maul could have been more frigthening. I think.

>>76608309
>Obi-Wan saying that Anakin will be death of him in Episode II
Lucas you cheeky fuck.

>>76607895
The chorus is actually saying "corn on the cob, corn on the kabob"

maybe talk with people outside of the hugbox?
infact most people will say that fight is the one cool part of the first movie.
>yea the prequels sucked but at least the maul fight was awesome.

>>76608489
Seriously, he would've made a fantastic rival for Obi Wan to face-off against in the other films. The prequels have way too many antagonists who appear briefly and never really do anything.

Because there's a bunch of dumb flipping and Darth Maul fights like shit on a technical level, but apparently Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan are just worse for some reason.

It's neither realistic, nor cool.

Just because you

1) were 8 the first time you saw it
2) like the music
and/or
3) want to be a contrarian

Doesn't mean it's good.

I hate this new meme of the prequels being good. They are not good movies.

I loved them as a kid, and they do work build nicely, but other than that they are bad.

I hate Disney star wars too btw

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>>76608606
Are you sure about that kid?

>>76608653
He never took an 8 hour rest

>>76608675
>I loved them as a kid, and they do work build nicely, but other than that they are bad.
ok, so you liked them as kid, they are kid/teenagers movies

>>76608681
If they kept him relatively mute, he'd be hard to fuck up even for Lucas. Keep him as the dark horse who shows up every once in a while to fuck up the Jedi's shit.

>>76608754
It is Lucas.
He would have to monologue sooner or later about how good it is to on the darkside at anikin just to drive home the fact that he will become vader.

>>76608659

>realistic
>star wars

>>76607247
The author of that video said the video wasn't a dig at prequels but choreography in general. Every single movie in existence does what the video details. Especially hand to hand scenes like in Terminator. How often would a terminator push or grab a character instead of crushing their throat or piercing them?

>>76607198
>There's no real sense that an actual fight is happening, because it looks like people are going through a dance routine.
I thought that was the point as described:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NyxljZNC8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3rtSwXThXU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rk1qghsNiok

>In technical terms: It's over-choreographed
This term does not exist. Especially seeing films like Hero, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon or the Matrix.

>>76607895
Everyone was so hyped out of seeing that we all tried to recreate that fight scene. Using a broom as a lightsaber staff does not work

>>76608853

It's a sword fight, and it looked like shit.
If it had had better choreo, it would've looked less like shit.

>>76608864

>Hero, Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon or the Matrix.

Those had good fight scenes, it didn't look like actors hitting their marks.

>>76607247
This.

/thread.

>>76607843
>moving the goal posts

>>76607247
>If you pause a fight scene you can see they are not actually hitting each other!
woah.. at last i see! upvoted!

>it's too choreographed!
>too many blocks and too many strikes!
>m-muh emotional investment!!

Oh fuck off. They can literally - LITERALLY - see moments into the future so fast-paced fights like this come down more to force precognition as opposed to fencing skill.

>>76609037
Wow thanks for that Expanded Universe Wookipedia tidbit reddit!

>>76609037

So like Dark Mall knows Obi-wan is going to swing and miss by three feet meaning he can then spin closer by two feet during that swing and still be okay?

brilliant, making it look like shit for the sake of unspoken lore

>>76609037
>They can literally - LITERALLY - see moments into the future
So why didn't Obi-Wan see that he would be trapped in the tunnel of plot convenience? Why didn't Qui-Gon? Why didn't Maul see that Obi-Wan would do a super flip and cut him in half?

>>76608920
>it didn't look like actors hitting their marks..
Of course it does. Every hit is countered and deflected perfectly. Nothing moves realistically. It looks like actors are recalling how they were taught prior to filming the scene. I'm not sure why Star Wars gets criticized so much when other films are just as guilty:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDlZ_SXx5gA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AeeoEpmyb2Y

>>76609075
They literally talk about how Jedi can see into the future in Episode I, idiot.

>>76609098

The fencing always looks like it's choreographed because there's only so many moves that can be done
The Hero fight doesn't look anywhere near as false as Phantom Menace

>>76609155
>The Hero fight doesn't look anywhere near as false as[...]
Stop. This is straight up bias because Chinese films are known for their fantastical elements and impossible feats. There is nothing remotely realistic or accurate about that fight scene. Especially viewing real Chinese sword fighting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulakgClpuLA

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>>76609075
Eat shit. Qui-Gon makes a point of this when recruiting Anakin into the race, whose force precognition makes him the only human in that town able to podrace

>>76609090
>unspoken lore
Read above.

>muh three feet
>muh two feet
Literally nitpicking you clown.

>>76609092
>So why didn't Obi-Wan see that he would be trapped in the tunnel of plot convenience? Why didn't Qui-Gon?

They may or may not have seen it. We know for certain they can tell when the forcefield doors will unlock because Obi-Wan and Maul turn on their sabers a second beforehand, and why Qui-Gon chose to meditate because he foresaw a brief respite.

>Why didn't Maul see that Obi-Wan would do a super flip and cut him in half?

Hubris. Obi-Wan had practically lost and Maul was toying with him. Maul did perceive something though, because the camera shows the realization dawn on his face right before Obi-Wan does his flip and cuts him down.

https://youtu.be/yHqdESArkqU?t=4m32s

Goddamn I love triggering plinketfags. Oh YES SER-RI!

>>76609320
no one cares

>>76607060
why do they turn their lightsabers off? do they want to save energy?

>>76609320
So if I understand correctly
>All Jedi can see moments into the future
>Order 66 is a surprise to literally everyone

>>76608957
That was my first post in this thread, I'm not moving anything. The fight wasn't about Vader, it was about obiwan holding out until Luke could see Vader kill him to cement Luke's motivation to fight

>>76609406
The Jedi had been fighting a war with the clones, had "bonded" with them, and had no reason to suspect them. Another thing is that Jedi can sense malice, but the clones are practically automatons and had none. Also, not at all Jedi are perceiving the future at all time, and their ability to do so varies by individual skill.

>>76609406
It's not a perfect ability. The chaos of the war was probably getting to them and Palpatine was messing with all of their abilities too. He was powerful enough to do that apparently. Also, the clones were designed to kill Jedi.

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Fight was ok
BUT

1 Why couldn't Obi use speed sprint through the red laser shields and help Qui Gon?

2 Why was Theed Palace built on top of huge generators that could power the sun?

3 Why was Theed Palace host to the only global arm arm?

Too many eggs in one Basket

no emotional investment

bad guy= evil horn man with one line
good guys = qui gon (an asshole) and Obi Wan (barely in the movie no character development beyond sarcasm)

Whoever wins it doesn't matter since Anakin blows up the (not a) Death Star so there's no tension

the fight itself look nice but doesn't matter

>>76609320
>Maul did perceive something though, because the camera shows the realization dawn on his face right before Obi-Wan does his flip and cuts him down.

And yet he still stands there for a good 5 seconds and does nothing about it?

>>76607411
But if we hated it before plinkett? Or can your tiny brain not accept that?

I don't like popular things - The Thread

>>76610711
>likes Star Wars, an incredibly popular movie
>anon says we don't like popular things because we don't like it's red headed step child

Ok anon, ok.

>>76610466
How was Quin-Gon an asshole?

>>76607060
There's nothing wrong with that fight. It's just that the movie that fight takes place in kind of sucks. Also killing off Darth Maul was a mistake. He should have been left alive, so he could have actually gotten some damn development.

>>76607060
The double ended light saber is a painfully impractical weapon and Maul should have lasted about ten seconds against two opponents due to it.

>>76607060
There is no gravity to the scene. There is nothing actual at stake, and it feels like three men playing with toys in a greenscreen environment because it is. Moreover, it is ludicrously written, with Darth Maul forgetting how to fight and using his lightsaber to blow sparks at Obi-Wan in his final moments instead of killing him.

>>76610937
you mean besides exploiting a 10 year old kid to get what he wanted or then bringing that same kid into a warzone for seemingly no reason?

>>76611021
its basically a Bō staff. The actor ray park is a prominent martial artist, the way he performs in the fight scene is smiliar to that of the wushu staff fighting style.

>>76611021
>painfully impractical
for you

>>76607190
>Some looney nitpicky guy who must be some kind of fencing specialist made a video about it, analyzing the sequence sometimes FRAME BY FRAME (anti PT are looney) because of course lightsabers fantasy fights have to be realistic you know...

The OT fights are even more 'unrealistic' is that they lack foot work and just have guys standing around hitting their blades against each other for the most part.

They're right that Maul never got built up as a villain and so there was no sense of why he mattered, but that's tangential to the choreography, direction and music.

Reddit letter media was such a mistake. Now look at all those professionnal nitpicking reviewers now. They wouldn't even make the half of it for any other flicks.

>>76611328
>The OT fights are even more 'unrealistic' is that they lack foot work and just have guys standing around hitting their blades against each other for the most part.

Wrong. Maybe true about the Obi Wan/Vader fight in SW, but if you watch Luke/Vader in ESB it's amazing, the tentativeness, the way Luke is tying to feel him out, measure for distance, and Vader is just toying with him, it's beautiful. There's actual tension in the scene, they are acting like they are actually in fight where one mistake, one split second of hesitation or being one inch closer or farther away than you think means instant death or at least maiming. Compared to the prequel lightsaber combat of "watch me twirl my glow stick, now I'll flail around and do a bunch of flips, now we'll clash sabers in the air with no intent of striking our opponent because we're too far away from each other, now I'll spin around and turn my back to my opponent for literally no reason, he won't attempt to attack me anyway, and look, I'll get into this pseudo kung fu pose with my very cut-offable hand stretched out in front of me and my saber held behind me as far from my enemy as possible and in such a way that it can't even protect my back, isn't all so totally cool and badass ?"

>>76607085
Fpbp

THE PREQUELS ARE FINE ITS JUST NOTHING GOT IMPROVED

>>76609247
>This is straight up bias because Chinese films are known for their fantastical elements and impossible feats.

But you're only looking at the level realism based on how fantastic the feats are, as if having less fanciness automatically makes a fight equivalently realistic. The thing is, if anything, the Hero fight is much more 'real' in that the fighters make much better use of movement and actually react to any potential threat, unlike fights where the characters will stand around, in range of each others' weapon, and make little attempt to throw off their opponent or negate their ability to attack through movement or stance switching, which is a huge part of sword fighting that can't be ignored.

Looking at the Chinese sparring, you can see that the fight is slowed down because so much of it actually takes place outside of the range where a weapon would hit. It's in trying to close the distance while being in an advantageous situation that most of the fight consists, while then they actually do get on close they exchange strikes rapidly. Standing close enough for someone land a hit and not doing much of anything is actually the far more unrealistic thing to happen.

>>76607060
Remember that one time Qui Gon and Obi Wan ran really fast to get out of danger at the beginning of the movie? Why didn't Obi Wan do that again?

>>76613667
he would have fallen in the hole. There is force speed but no force slow down.
Also what the fuck was the point of those laser walls anyway. They seem to exist for no fucking reason other than keeping obi-wan from saving qui-gon

>>76607330

>There are so many spins and twirls and blocks that it doesnt feel like a life or death fight anymore.

it is. it's just that they are beings with insane amounts of midichlorians and thus they operate (and fight) on a seemingly unrealistic level

>>76615120
You better be physically retarded or joking.

>>76608110
What color is the sky in your world?

>>76607060
>OT memed Chambara choreography.
>Prequels used Wuxia choreography.
>Expecting plebcucks and neckbeard """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""hema""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""' faggots to know this.
Star Wars has Asian Cinematic references.

More news at 10

>>76615469
Delete your account, weeb.

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>>76607060

why couldnt the movies be like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj07qh51zPI

>>76616037
You want to know why Genndy's Clone Wars feels a thousand times better and more badass than the prequels?

Because the characters keep their fucking mouths shut.

>>76616037
This is some Akira type shit

>>76616200

you gotta watch the whole series its on youtube its fucking sick

>>76607060
Red Letter Memeia

>>76616037
This is literally for children.

>>76616064
Now that you mention that, he likes to do that in all his stuff, huh? People just shut the fuck up and fight.

The man is a genius.

>>76607190
The realism of the choreography doesn't matter, its just a boring drawn out fight

>>76616593
So are all of the Star Wars live action films. What is your point?

>>76607060
man. the prequels are so much better than the campy trash that are the originals.

>>76616626
Beat me to it, episodes with little or even no dialogue in a cartoon was one of his strongest qualities especially when everyone else seems too afraid to try it.

>>76607060
It's legitimately good, even if Darth Maul had barely appeared in the movie until that point and had only interacted briefly with Qui Gon earlier in the film. As soon as Obi Wan gets stuck behind the laser wall and Qui Gon is left to fight Maul by himself, shit gets really tense. My heart rate goes up every time I see that scene. Movies don't do that for me anymore. Needless to say other than that most of the movie is awful.

>>76607895
Muh childhood

you made me feel

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>>76607304

HEIL HITLER

>>76607060
It's the best fight scene of the prequels.

>>76607060
Camerawork is shit.
Editing is a mess in parts.
Mainly the camera for me. And the plastic cgi background for me.

>>76607304
Idiot.

>>76618807 Fuck off you fucking fuck

>>76607895
>7 years old
>has an oppinion
Kill yourself
>>76607996
You go right along with him, faggot

6/10 post

>>76607884
I feel like Episodes 2 and 3 could have benefitted greatly from keeping Liam Neeson on board, they should have had Anakin kill Qui Gon as his downfall towards the dark side.

>>76608494

With all the idiots on this board these days I can't even tell if that is irony any more

>>76607060

THEY ARE DANCING LIKE QUEERS

>>76607085
This.

/thread indeed.

>>76618830
>I'm twelve!
Great point, shitposter.

>>76607085
fpbp

>>76616760
Yeah totally. Wanna touch dicks, bro?

>>76607895
this guy gets it

>>76607060
They went from an emotional moment to a perfectly crafted ballet-like choreography setpiece devout of any real meaning (and this applies to the entirety of the "prequel trilogy").

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0mUVY9fLlw

>>76618941
lol yo lmao minds me of in /b/ we'z seid to me lets go to tv and say the bane lmao but when we gets here banes not in all threds lol so theys seid to me we/z says we say the bane in ALL THE THREDS LMAO

The "no weight" argument has always been fucking retarded to me. The assumption is that you have watched the OT at this point and so you know what a Sith is and what a Sith represents to the universe. It immediately tells you this is potentially a Darth Vader and Palpatine level threat. That is the "weight" in the fight which the quickly garners even more of that "weight" when he kills Qui-Gon.

But of course some memelord is going to say how nobody in the PT is relatable and so Qui-Gon's death doesn't make you feel anything and you don't relate to Obi-Wan and the loss of his master.

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>>76610526
He was trying to see where his dick will go for later recovery.
Which he wasn't able to do.

Honestly I think the acrobatics of the PT fights are a beautiful companion piece to the three lightsaber wielders in the OT.

It manages to take emotional fights that were simply the best they could do with what they had at the time (Obi vs. Vader and Luke vs. Vader) and apply even more meaning and weight to them. People always have this idea that the PT fights cheapen the OT but if anything I feel like it's the opposite.

Seeing how graceful and powerful Obi-Wan and Vader were in the PT serves to show just how far both of them have fallen in the OT. Obi-Wan is at his end and has given up. He doesn't have the energy and hope he once had and can't muster the heart to once again strike down his pupil the way he did in Ep. 3. The fight on Mustafar sapped him of anything he had left.

And Anakin, despite still retaining all of the anger and passion that fueled his fighting style in his youth, is tragically limited by his injuries and a mere shell of his former self. He stumbles just attempting simple swings at Luke in RotJ.

Finally, with Luke it shows that he isn't a "true" Jedi in the sense that all the Jedi from the PT were. And it also shows that that is precisely why he succeeds. He's fighting like an untrained youngling with no grace and all passion. But he's not weighed down by dogma and law. He's following his heart and the will of the force. And because of this even with his inexperience he succeeds in his goal. Because he was a more true Jedi than the entire order of the PT who had fallen so far. Remember, even Yoda and Obi-Wan didn't believe in him and in fact were pushing him to kill as well. Further showing they were relics of a corrupt bygone era.

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>>76619621

/tv/ and reddit letter media like pretend that skilled telepathic swordsmen wouldn't block or dodge nearly 100% of incoming blows so that it looks like they're just hitting swords together and dancing

>>76619811
>implying if that was the case all the fights would be decided with just one swing of the laser sword because everything was decided in their precog brains
Obi One vs Dark Vader (TNH) >>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever bullshit ""prequel"" crap the hack Lucas came up with

>>76620052

But Obi-Wan vs. Vader was essentially one swing of a laser sword...

>>76620052
>neckbeard fanboy: the fight i like is better than anything the prestigious director came up with

>>76620106
There should be a "not" out there somewhere in my greentexty bit, sorry.

>>76607060
I like the part where the one guy gets stuck behind a forcefield and kneels down to pray for some reason which is never explained in any way he just does it while the red dude paces around waiting for the magic energy door to open.

>>76607330
>"this is better"
>2 shots almost 1 after the other of obi wan being thrown back by huge explosions
>3 shots of their weapons being magically knocked from their hands
>they fly back from simple kicks and even a headbutt
>everything is a weird cgi image of people being thrown around or something exploding
sure it was

sure it was

>>76612180
>>76609247
even in cheesy asian martial arts movies the fights happen for a reason even if its as simplistic as revenge or protecting a loved one

why did the jedi fight this stranger? i mean they didnt even know what the sith were and had never seen one in the flesh. they dont even talk to each other at all they just know they have to murder him? what the fuck.

>>76616037
>loses his lightsaber
>uses the force to blow up the droids
>the droids for some reason start to literally walk into his fists to blow up
its like they used real life stunt choreography in a fucking cartoon

>>76607330
>mfw Maul returns in TCW and Rebels and is based as fuck
>mfw no face
it's great tho

>>76620553
>they dont even talk to each other at all they just know they have to murder him?

I don't know and I'm not defending his lack of development, just the fight itself.

>>76607060

The truth is that the fights in the prequels weren't that bad. They were better than the slow, lumbering fights in the originals.

But it's the stories and characters that fucked up the prequels. Anakin wasn't necessary and just killed it all. Podracing was a fucking joke. Senate nonsense was boring. Overuse of CG characters was poor. And meme dialogue was awkward.

The only redeeming factors of the prequels were Qui-gon Jinn (who should've died at the end, killed by Darth Vader), young Obi Wan, and Darth Maul (who should've been in for longer than he was).

>>76621259

I don't mind Qui Gon being killed by Maul. It gave him some credibility, and it provided a dramatic even for Obi Wan.

But yeah, I think he should've at least lasted until the 2nd movie and had another duel with Obi wan and Anakin maybe. He was really under utilized. But I guess all Lucas wanted him to be was the guy who killed Qui Gon.

>>76611021
oh yes please enlighten us about how a real sith assassin chooses his lightsaber

>>76621746
>the first Sith in aeons
>battles Quick Gone Gin and Obi One throughout 1st movie
>becomes their nemesis
>battles Quick Gone Gin and Obi One and Anakin in the 2nd movie
>manages to kill Quick
>Anakin goes overboard full "MUH MENTOR MUH WANNA KILL YOU BECAUSE OF HATE"
>Palpie from a fade-in "Yes, YEEEES. The seed had been planted..."
>ep 3 is Anakin's demise
Would it work better?

>>76607411

It's almost as if the meme video was 1000 percent correct. I can think of 100 more things wrong with the prequels that weren't covered.

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>>76622311

>dubs

Yeah, and even that would allow more development and build up for Dooku, who was under utilized as well.

I mean, sure he beat Obi Wan and Anakin in the second one, but it was kind of a throwaway fight anyway.
Maybe Christoper Lee wasn't up for anymore screen time than he had though.

>>76607060
old people saw the old slow ass fights with old actors that move slower than shit

this scares them because it is "too actiony"

>>76607895
Fuck, this post made me open a vault of memories, but not good ones.

>8 years old
>Finally get to see Episode 1
>Go with the entire family, even my 2 years old brother
>Podracing scene
>Fuck I'm hype
>Mom: Your brother needs to go to the bathroom, go with him
>Me: But mom--
>Mom: GO WITH HIM
>Miss the entire podracing scene

I was mad to my brother and mom for years because of that.

>>76620314
>>magic energy door
>memes about the magic energy door
>when people are fighting with magic energy swords

Darth maul's lightsaber is stupid. Why didn't they just cut through the handle?

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Even fans can make a better fight scene.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djo_91jN3Pk&ab_channel=T7pro

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>>76620314


>Qui Gon kneels to meditate, showing his calm and focus on the ''light side'' of the force
>Maul paces, anxiously and impatiently, full of hatred for the jedi, showing his focus on the ''dark side'' of the force

It's pretty obvious friend. No explanation needed really.

>>76622427
>>76607895
Looks like George Lucas knew his audience well.

>>76607060
I think this fight is the best combination of realism and spectacle. Extremely well done but without all the moon jumps they do in ep 3.

>>76607085
>threading your own post

>>76607060
It's an exciting little romp with no emotional attachment.
I guess this fight is like buying a cheap hooker.

>>76622536
But they did

>>76607060

100% agree. In fact, it is the only satisfying SW lightsaber fight. Perfect harmony with perfect music. I wish it were longer and more frequent. Always hated SW for having lackluster fights with the lightsabers.

>>76622554

WOW! Thank you for this.

Amazing. I can't believe fans outproduced a billion dollar corporation and the creator of the universe.

Truly and utterly pathetic and embarassing.

>>76607060
Agree completely. It blew me the fuck away the first time I saw it. It's a shame that saber fights in II and III sucked in comparison. Ep I fight, though quick and flashy, had some weight and emotion to it and seemed like a real progression from the OT.

>>76622554
This sucked. It was 15 minutes of standoffs with only 3 minutes total actual fighting.

Why would you like this?

>>76623121
Only on the very rare occasions where i'm as sure that i'm right as I am that i'll die one day.