Inhumans vs. X-MEN #0 Final Preview

Shit, already?

>>87908381
Hank is a piece of shit. I wish misery and pain upon him.

I'm so tired of Soule's garbage Inhumans. I can't wait for based Ewing to save them.

>>87908381
Beast is taking Cyclops' death well.

>>87908381

Could Beast be any happier?

>>87908343
Get ready nothing! I ain't buying that shit. I'm not even gonna pirate it.

>>87908400
I hope Iso gets gutted

>>87908400
>sidecut
why

>>87908400
Because of course, just removing the terrigen is out of the question. Inhumans must get their way after all.
FUCK THIS SHIT.

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Variants!

by Alan Davis

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FIN


>>87908407
You finally chose naught. Deserved.

>>87908424
Because fashion.
I give it until 2018 before the trend dies enough for it to leave mainstream and go back to goths and such.

>>87908381
>>87908400
you just know beast caused the entire thing

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>>87908390

>>87908411
I don't know why but I found this hilarious.

Alright, who's the team I'M BUYING IT FOR THE ART?

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>>87908365
>>87908381
Fuck you Marvel. Beast is just an Inhuman in all the other events charts and he's no longer an X-Men, so putting him in the middle is wrong and insulting to both sides and the readers

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Some more of preview

>>87908503
Nope, I'm in team I'll take the scans from /co/ when they inevitably get posted.
My team needs a shorter name.

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End of texless preview

>>87908503
I'm team "I'll pirate it since companies say pirating translates 1 to 1 to lost revenues, and I want Marvel to have negative money from me for this utter shit that they dared publish"

>>87908559
>Hey Karnak, how do you feel about homosexuality?

>>87908559
Is she going to make Karnak gay?

>>87908545
>IvX #1 Unlettered Preview (around the middle)
ftfy

>>87908530
Nothing wrong with Beast.
It's Marvel that sucks, and they stop writing comics with characters they don't deserve to own anymore.

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>>87908545
>>87908559
Karnak looks like he's trying to contain an erection

>>87908576
>it's another Magneto chains Crystal and gang episode

>>87908428
>Pet Avenger against Pet Avenger

>>87908381

Hank: "Ah science!"

Iso: "Dr. Pym why are you so happy? Your oldest friend just died."

Hank: "Oh yeah I forgot"

>>87908695
>Pym

>>87908343
I'd rather not. Thanks.

>>87908699
In Anon's defence they do have the same first name.
Though against Anon, he's got teh same surname as Bones, so forgetting that is unforgivable

>>87908722
I thought Bones name was Temperance?

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>>87908343
>Starting another event while there's already one running.

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>>87908785
Wrong Bones

>>87908805
what event is going right now?

>>87908785
And just when I thought I forgot everything about Bones...
>>87908805
Pfff. Unless Ressurrexxion doesn't start before IvX is finished, they're doing it wrong.
When is that event with monsters starting?

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>>87908530
You got that backwards Anon, here let me fix that for you

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I can't wait to read this in the storytime, the Bingo chart for this event is much better than the CWII one and hopefully things will actually happen here

>>87908827
Shit, forgot.

>>87908845
January

>>87908400
>>87908381
i hope beast catches super-legacy virus AIDS

>>87908860
I feel like the Phoenix one and Ms Marvel one are the only ones not going to happen

>>87908910
its canon that mutants can't get aids

>>87908839>>87908845
When will IvX begin?

>>87908915
The X-men are losers thing won't happen either

>>87908930
It's canon until it isn't.
>>87908948
Next week, according to OP.

>>87908343
Why does Beast hate mutants?

>>87908427
I think this is all stupid but you think the solution is to try to remove a gas that's free floating around the world from the atmosphere?

How would they go about doing that?

>>87909047
Because he looks like freak while they're supermodels.

>>87908400
I can't fucking grasp the bias here
>Scarlet Witch wipes out the mutants
>still an avenger
>Terrigen Gas kills muties
>Inhumans dindu nuffin
>Cyclops sterilizes the cloud
>Literally hitler

>>87909074

build a gaint vacuum cleaner and suck it all up.

>>87909074

Crystal can literally control air. Iso can control Air Pressure. Storm can control the weather.

You'd think they'd try something. Hell, Cyclops managed to nullify one on his own, right? But your telling me the entirety of the Inhuman braintrust can't figure it out?

I've been out of the loop for a long time. Why doesn't Beast look like a wolf/lion anymore? I'm happy about that in any case

>>87909047
cause he is an Uncle Tom

>>87908958
>IvX starts while Civil Shit 2 has yet to finish.
>Even if things went according to plan, we would have a crossover event right after another crossover event.
Ever heard of saturation?

>>87909177
I think it happened around Aaron's run

>>87909074
A giant vacuum cleaner

Iceman goes Ice Age on the planet again, controls the weather systems and turns the cloud solid.

Storm, Crystal and Iso contain it to a single area again and Magik opens a massive stepping disk to a hell dimension and sends it through

Magma sets off a chain of volcanos, adding sulfur and ash and other shit into the atmosphere in an attempt to change the chemical composition of the gas again

Jean Grey, Rachel Grey, Psylocke, Hellion, Nate Grey, Cable, Hope Summers, Justice and any other remaining telekinetic combine their power to draw all of the terrigen around the world into a single place, contain it inside a massive force field and throwing it into the sun

>>87909185
>IvX
>Monsters
>Hydra War
Anything else? Not crowded enough. Something Spider-related, we didn't have one of those for a long time.

>>87909189
It happened in Bendis' run. He was dying so he pulled his younger self to the present, under the pretense of stopping Cyclops from causing a mutan genocide, and together they figured out how to put Beast through a third mutation

>>87909177
something about bendis bitching & crying until he got his way at one of those marvel retreats

>>87909074
Man, there are MULTIPLE ways of doing it.

Pym particles could shrink the cloud down to a manageable size and they could literally contain it in a box.
Storm could summon the winds create a series of tornadoes and twisters, keeping the mists trapped in a certain spot for years until an actual antidote is found.
Magik(In a fucking biohazard suit), could open up portal to Limbo, have like a whole bunch of vacuum cleaners on the other side and suck the mists inside there.
Mother fucking Molecule Man could just eat the goddamn thing.
Somebody strikes a deal with one of the many fucking devils or demons that exist, selling their soul or marriage or penis to get rid of the mists.
Doctor Strange could bargain with it.

>>87909177
Because Bendis threw a hissy fit about wanting Wolverine-hair Beast back. Hickman and Remender laughed and threw shit at Bendis for it so much that Bendis almost started to cry. Brevoort, feeling bad about the whole affair, approved Bendis' "change Beast's look to be more ape-like again" request just without the wolverine hair.

>>87909214
We're having Clone Conspiracy right now

>>87909214
>we didn't have one of those for a long time
A-anon, in case you're not just joking, we're in the middle of a Spider-event RIGHT NOW.

>>87909151
Well, they had to sacrifice the mutant that actually did it. But sure, others don't seem to be doing anything.

>>87909231
>Pym
More interested in killing these days. Avengers, though. Not sure what he thinks of X-Men.
>Storm
>Magik
We've seen how willing they are.
>Molecule Man
Where is he these days, really?
>>87909248
>>87909252
Yeah, I know. I storytimed Kaine issue. But is something announced for future?

>>87909214
there's also Kang war

>>87909271
Other characters know how to manipulate Pym Particles. His daughter Nadia had her own lab in the Microverse.
Scott Lang manipulated Pym Particles so that he could beat a Doom with the power of Kang and Annihilus
Raz Maholtra is able to program Pym Particles well enough that the Ultimates called on him to help shield their ship.

Molecule Man is helping Reed rebuild the Multiverse

>>87909271
>is something announced for future?
Future trade solicits show that we're getting a Mega-arc starting after Clone Conspiracy wraps up about Osborn vs. Parker and is the big final battle that's going to be responsible for Parker Industries getting destroyed.

If there ever was a time for Slott's run to end, it'd probably be with this upcoming Goblin Nation vs. Parker Industries arc.

>>87909308
Kang War is just the first arc of the current Avengers ongoing. It's not an event. In fact, each issue is a NEW Kang War, because Kang is an asshole like that.

>>87908343
It is not important that so bad this saga is, undoubtedly is fault of McCoy

>>87908576
>This is for cheating on my on-again-off-again son, you fart-huffing skank!

>>87909377
>IN THIS ISSUE
>START OF THE KANG WAR
For five issues.
>>87909437
And Luna still isn't shown.

>>87909452
Yeah. And then the solicit for number to is KANG WAR 2 BEGINS NOW and solicit for number three is KANG WAR 3 BEGINS NOW etc.

>>87908400
Where are the Illuminati, The Avengers or SHIELD in all this matter? It seemed as that they simply decided not to intervene in this matter and to leave that Mutants and Inhumans kill between them

>>87908910
I hope Beast gets infected and the virus mutates and becomes deadly for the Inhumans

>>87909472
I think most of the world in MU only cared about Wolverine so now they don't care about Muties.

>>87909472
The biggest problems with this event is nobody outside of the X-men and Inhumans caring. It might be worse than CW2 when it comes to ignoring obvious solution and have people make the worse decisions available.

>>87909452
luna showed up in a one off recent issue of ANI
it was crystal's birthday or someshit

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>>87909452
>And Luna still isn't shown.

>>87909505

Seriously? After all that bullshit shoved at us to excuse AvX and the illuminati fucking with everyone for the 'better good', and CW2 whole theme?

Looks like yet another event I'm not wasting money or attention on like the rest.

>>87909244
>Hickman and Remender laughed and threw shit at Bendis for it so much that Bendis almost started to cry.
Source?

>>87908394
I don't want them saved. I want them gone.

Marvel has created a bunch of unlikable supervillains and is trying to force its audience to see them as heroes.

>>87909631
IvX is just a means to an end. It doesn't really matter as anything beyond "let's finally put this bullshit mutants vs. inhumans plotline that everyone hates to rest." RessurXion is what has a chance of fixing both franchises. IvX is just more shit from the people who were making things you didn't like in the first place.

>>87908400
>telomere
That writer really has no idea what he's talking about...

>>87909638
Hickman said so on his formspring back when that was a thing. Unfortunately its long since been deleted and I don't have the screencap saved. Hopefully someone else does.

The last instance of it being posted through the archives that I can find is back from 2014, so the image isn't saved on desu anymore.

>>87909756
See:
http://desuarchive.org/co/search/image/Yf3FlMTAuhjB9MD5qBzlwg/

For people talking about said image, but unfortunately all the image links are broken. Anyone happen to still have it saved?

>>87908381
>>87908400
What if this isnt really Beast, but Dark Beast?
Faking his death and took his role as Beast?

Official list of ways this could have been solved with nobody dying.
>turn all mutants into inhumans with gene therapy or a reality warp
>turn all mutants into humans with gene therapy or a reality warp
>use somebody's, I won't say whose, weather powers to gather the shit into a safe liquid form that could be administered to folks in a manner that doesn't kill all mutants
>turn all humans into mutants with JEEEEEEEEAN therapy or a reality warp, thus turning public sentiment against the inhumans so they can be purged like the monsters they are
>something something healing factor antibodies cure
>better hiring on Marvel's part

>>87909866
or turn inhumans into mutants
oh wait, inhumans are already mutants, only alien

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>>87909047
Because he is secretly dark beast.

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>>87909857
They should just pretend that every appearance of him from the last decade was either Dark Beast.
Even the times where Blue McCoy directly interacted with Dark Beast.


I just want my favourite X-Man back, you guys.

>>87909912
mutants are alien mutants too, just different aliens

In fact, the x-men don't even restrict themselves to x-gene mutants as seen in the case of Brood the mutant alien so grouping inhumans separately from mutants was full retard in the first place

>>87909706

Well I'll just read something else till then.

>>87909117
To be honest, are there ANY Avengers that hasn't committed a crime/evil act? Top of my head it's only Quasar, War Machine & Monica,

>>87909979
mutants are humans with mutant gene ignited.
There are different versions over what celestials did. Inhumans on the other hand, are Krees failed attempt at creating eternals.

>>87908400
>this thing that gives us powers is killing you all
>instead of accepting being regular humans let's take away your powers

>>87910011
celestial gene fuckery, kree gene fuckery, it's alien mutant apes either way

>>87909866
I forgot
>have a child born from both races through which a cure can be synthesized

>>87909857
>First page in which we see Beast being cheerful and optimistic that mutant kind can be saved.
>WHAT IF ITS DARK BEAST!?

>>87910089
wait, i've got another one
>turn all mutants into vampires

>>87909958
>>87909960

I feel like the O5 are going to be the asspull to 'fix' this. Something like Beast was wrong about pulling them to this timeline being harmless and it's affecting EVERYTHING.

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>>87908400

I don't get it. The Inhumans are super heroes too right? Why do they just let a cloud travel around the world and genocide an entire race of people? They don't seem the least bit concerned and even defend it.

>>87910089
>celestial gene fuckery,
but that's what I'm saying. In Gruenwald version Celestials gave humans protection over radiation, but didn't add x-gene. Some other writer later retconned it that x-gene was a creation of Celestials. Later it was retconned that Celestials only vivisected some primates and put Eternals in order to observe humankind

Kree on the other hand, had different goal, because they wanted to evolve themselves, therefore they started some experiments.
Inhumans = humans / eternals hybrid with mutation unlocked by mist and mist only

Mutants = humans with mutation unlocked randomly

Also, x-gene is the reason that Spider-Man got spider powers instead of spider cancer

>>87910157
this isn't even technically the same timeline post secret wars

>>87910172
i thought spider-man got his shit from the spider totem

>>87910167
Inhumans are more Namor than Cap

>>87910219
see? that's the problem with writers, everyone tries to retcon the estabilished facts in order to go down in history. Spider Totem doesn't seem to be canon anymore

>>87910167
because the terrigen is sacred or something and they want to make more of themselves, mutie

>>87910241
Speaking of Namor, where the fuck is Namor? He's a god damn mutant and he gives less fucks than Magneto. Shouldn't he be murdering Inhumans right now?

>>87910253
they can always recreate terrigen, especially that this is what Randac basically did

>>87910268
Before Secret Wars, he did help Magneto secretly in Mag's solo series, and it was revealed that he did so for decades. However, Namor considers himself an Atlantean first.

>>87910268
He just got resurrected himself.

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>>87908343
Reminder that not only did Cyclops do nothing wrong, he didn't even do anything at all.
PRESS X TO PAY RESPECTS

>>87910321
>However, Namor considers himself an Atlantean first.
I don't think the mist gives a fuck what he considers himself.

>>87910360
but the mist can't penetrate waters, can it?

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>>87908400
>>87908381
>You will never roofie Beast and make him your personal bara-bitch slave
The Inhumans are using you Hank, just reverse engineer the Terrigen to kill the Inhumans. Cyclops will obviously be alive again through the phoenix macguffin.

>>87910372
As long as it never rains, sure.

>>87910388
you are too smart for marvel and their mentality.

>>87910219

At the moment the O5 are a plot tumor that is going to have to be dealt with eventually, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's to clear the board even if it doesn't make sense or fit with the narrative.

>>87910407
>clouds become rain is too complicated for a company with a weather witch as a major character

>>87910415
well like I just said, this isn't even technically the same timeline so they're technically less of a plot tumor now than they were before.

In fact, since this universe doesn't really have a pre Secret Wars past, the only plot tumors are any shit they write going forward since literally anything can simply be justified by that's just how shit got put back together.

Admittedly Secret Wars made no god damn sense in the fist place but that's a moot point at this point.

>>87908343
At first, the Terrigen Mists going all across the planet was something the Inhumans weren't happy about, to the point that Black Bolt was exiled for it. It was shown that the Inhumans wished they could stop the cloud, but there was nothing they could do about it.
Now, they're suddenly against anyone doing anything against the Cloud even if it means letting thousands of mutanst die? What the fuck Marvel? And you want us to root for them?

>>87910268
He got revenge-killed by a supreme squad of Incursion survivors.

>>87910562
The motivations and logic of all the characters changed just to make sure IvX happened.

>>87910535
>clouds become rain is too complicated for a company with a weather witch as a major character
well apparently it is, since a cloud is a major threat.
I guess that when they triple over their feet, they die

>>87910562
There's no hope of getting the Terrigen genie back in an Inhuman bottle if the mutants destroy it.

>>87910671
Just make more mists using whatever science Randac and the Kree have been using for millenia. Actually, I have an even better idea, have Lockjaw teleport to a dimension that still has Terrigen Crystals and nab them.

>>87910010
US War Machine should be consider a war crime

>>87910116
He is happy to do science.
In the last time he didnt cared for other just for own goals and science.
Even here, like the inuman said, he shouldnt be so happy, but he is. Thats Dark Beast behaviour. Regarding what he did in the past, its even more possible.

>>87909117
The Scarlet Witch was posessed and driven insane at the time. That's why she gets a "pass", and she doesn't really since most heroes, especially the X-Men, still keep their distance from her.

>>87910388
>>87910407
>>87910535
>Bendis cant into science
>raining
Normally the mist wouldnt last for a year or even 5 months.
Rain and normal weather would drag most of it down and scatter the terrigen in the whole atmosphere.
But what would you expect from Bendis.

>>87909958
Except Dark Beast may be evil but at least he's likable and charismatic. Beast is just a douche.

>>87910010
Scarlet Witch

>>87910907
this isn't Bendis

>>87910957
diff anon, I think that Bendis is secretly writing and editing all comics, when no one is seeing. He probably stays after hours and mess in the computer files

>>87910731
The Uncanny Inhumans tie-in for IvX is about Maximus knowing how to make more Terrigen and realising that he could just stop the war at any second but doesn't because where's the fun in that?

>>87910957
Didnt he wrote the fundament of the x-men vs inhuman problem and the terrigenmist?

>>87911051
Nope, he has nothing to do with any of this. Sure, he brought it up in Civil War II, but it wasn't his idea.

>>87908559
YOU JUST KNOW

>>87911065
Ok than i apolgize and say general
>But what would you expect from Marvel.

>>87909472
>Where are the Illuminati, The Avengers or SHIELD in all this matter?
Because fuck mutants?

It's not Adam and filthy mutant scum

>>87910974
He's like the Anti-Johns.

>>87909472
>illuminati
The one with Beast and Black Bolt? Tony is dead by this point, Namor hasn't been brought back, Steve is hydra, Strange is too wrapped up in magic dying, T'challa has a civil war and space shit.

>The avengers
which one?

>shield
>implying Maria Hill didn't send Black Bolt a thank you card for killing Scott.

>>87910535

I mean in the sense that they're just kinda there now. There's no agency to keep them safe and besides Jean being a cunt they're hardly contribing anything significant. It's hard to look at them and not think how pointless they were.

>>87911455
>Implying that Maria Hills thank you card also wasn't a bomb for a dick she wanted.

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>>87908343
That's the most blatant shill pitch I've seen on /co/.
You should hire an 18-25 year-old to do your marketing, Marvel, they know what's hip with the youth.

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>>87908343
Can heroes stop fighting other heroes allready?

We have a motherfucking universe of villains out there wanting to wipe out dimensions and conquer earth.

Can you stop punching each other and start to punch villains?

>>87911455
Is the ANAD Illuminati book still going? Dropped it after the first issue but wonder if it got any better.

>>87911712
Since when are the Inhumans heroic in any way?

>>87908400
Classic.
Degas the inhumans deviant war now

>>87911851
If you think that way there is no heroes at all in Marvel since pretty much everyone is a dick with his own agenda, but in the big scheme of black and white things, I'd put Inhumans in the "hero" sack any day.

>>87908492
Me too, but I can't figure why it's so funny.

>>87908618
>Nothing wrong with Beast.

Yeah, if you just ignore the constant bitch he's been for the last few decades he's a great guy.

>>87908856
>let me fix that for you

The only thing worse than your mspaint skills are your opinions.

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>>87909182

>>87908400

Let's get rid of the mists.

>muh culture!

What do you propose?

>Delete parts of your DNA and erase your culture.

Fucking Inhumans. Not even once.

>>87911712
The Spider-People are fighting the Jackal and his clones (which you clearly know), the Avengers are currently fighting Kang the Conqueror, the New Avengers just got finished fighting the Maker and the Revengers, the USAvengers will be fighting the Golden Skull, the Hawkeye's Avengers are fighting Hydro-Man, the Ultimates are going to be fighting a cosmic entity that's chained Eternity, the Heroes for Hire are fighting the New Pride, Dr. Strange is fighting his entire Rogue's Gallery, Thor is fighting Malekith and the Dark Council, and the next big crossover event will be heroes vs. Giant Monsters.
This "heroes don't fight villains anymore" mean needs to die. Yes, there are too many hero vs hero stories, but they're a minority compared to traidtional hero vs villain stories.

>>87912168
Wouldn't everyone be happy if all the mutants lost their powers? Even mutants themselves?

>>87910947

Unless you are being funny, Scarlet Witch first became an Avenger to atone for her actions in the Brotherhood.

>>87908395
Wait...Cyclops is...DEAD?! How?!

>>87912300
Guess all that dancing for Magneto really took its toll.

>>87912304
Got killed poisoning from terrigen mist

>>87912304
He died of Terrigan poisoning in the first issue of Death of X.
Emma used her powers to make people think he was still alive for a while so he people would think he went out like a champ, and used his influence to get a Terrigan cloud destroyed.

>>87912304
Terrigan Mist killed him

So Inhumans want to keep the cloud because it turns people into Inhumans.
But it's also killing people, and nothing bad would happen to any existing Inhumans if it was gone.

How is there supposed to be a debate about who the bad guy is here?

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>>87912380
>>87912386
>>87912390
Was it a dignified and glorious death or just dumb?

>>87912327
I'm pretty sure erotic dancing for your dad has to be some kind of illegal. Fucking muties. Then they have the temerity to wonder how they get demon bits falling out of their junk.

>>87912467
>Magneto
>Wanda's father
Pls.

>>87912452
He got both, yay?

>>87912452
It wasnt. Emmas entire motivation throughout death of X was to give him a more worthy end than just suddenly dying from terrigen poisoning

>>87912452
Depends on how you look at it?

>>87911764
It got better but too little too late. Was cancelled at #7.

>>87908343
So let me get this straight: this is all over the mists being toxic to only mutants. Cyclopse had the mist changed so it was no longer toxic to anyone but the inhumans are now butthurt? This makes it sound an awful lot like the inhumans are just an invasive species that shouldn't belong where it's occupied.
I'm backing the X-Men this time round.

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>>87912452
Poison spread almost instantly, he couldn't even fight it.

>>87912524
>tfw I expected Thunderball to plow Titania
Glad I was wrong.

>>87912482
Is this some anime level "we're not technically related so it's ok" bullshit?

If at any time you think you're related to someone *and* you've some kind if sexual history, you're garbage. Complete garbage.

>>87911851

You might want to check out war of kings and post annalation cosmic marvel. I really enjoyed the inhumans ruling the kree, even Ronan got some nice development.

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>>87912536
Everything since the first issue, was Emma being mind broken trying to keep his dream alive

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>>87912452
wrong on all accounts.
Black Bolt just screamed him to death

>>87912452
Pretty dumb
He actually dies of poisoning, leaving his work unfinished, his people divided and dying.

The psychic projection of him is "murdered" by Black Bolt for...being kinda mean?
And for some reason everyone hates him for constantly devoting his entire life to saving lives and making the world a better place.

>>87912585
Dumb spoiler only reading poster

>>87912600
don't shoot the messenger bro. Just here to dispense the plot. Besides they said right form the start he gets killed by Black Bolt while picking a fight with him, not from being mist poisoned

>>87912580
>Emma- Broken

She was sad but she focused. She made a plan. She executed it. She made mutants everywhere twice as safe. She also gave her beau a more fitting death.

Emma fucking won.

Remember before Schism, when the X-Men titles couldn't be described as "mostly stupid"?

>>87912594
>Pretty dumb
>He actually dies of poisoning, leaving his work unfinished, his people divided and dying.
His death is nothing but human in a sense. You think you can punch your way out of anything, what happens if we just turn off the plot armor one day. You walked through a cloud of what you most likely knew was poison since you just saw Multiple Man die in it, guess what happened.

>>87912623
Can't wait for IvX to paint her as a villain.

>>87912631
Yep. Schism is what killed X-Men. Just to find out whose idea it was so I can hate him to death.

>>87912594
>.being kinda mean?
attempted to shoot them with his OPTIC BLAST

>>87912623
Check the last page of the issueagain, and a few of the pages posted above showing what will happen in the new series. You don't know she's mindbroken until the last page.

>>87912620
Try reading the issue you dingus

>>87912664
She isn't "mind broken". She's sad but determined. You guys read too much porn.

>>87912661
Oh no, an illusion almost shot them with nothing, because they killed a lot of people. If the inhumans gave more of a shit Medusa could have read the mind of it to see it was an illusion, or they could have accepted the attack as a small atonement for the deaths. If they let him do it, it would be fairly interesting at least, since it would show the world he was fake.

>>87912620
You're a fucking idiot.

>>87912664
>preview

You mean where she's training and getting ready?

>>87912706
>Medusa could have read the mind of it to see it was an illusion
Medusa's powers are prehensile hair, not telepathy. It's Maximus that's the psychic, and he's more the "mind control" type of psychic than the "read people's minds" type.

>>87912661
>implying it'd deal any damage
She's no OML Mysterio.

>>87912706
>Medusa
>mind read

I know Scott's on page being right as fuck, but that doesn't make the redhead in panel JEAAAAN!

>>87912657
Jason Aaron started the ruination.
Wolverine & The X-Men was his idea, so they let him do Schism to make it happen.
Then Editorial as a whole decided to do AvX because it would sell more than just an X-Men event, killing YEARS of buildup and making the whole team look like villains/losers.
Then they handed the franchise to Bendis.
They the higher-ups decided the Inhumans needed to be pushed as mutant replacements.

Only good books in that time have been Spurrier's Legacy and...His X-Force, PAD's All New X-Factor, and Bunn's Magneto stuff is okay?

So what happened to Cyclops up to this point? Why do they always compare him to a certain dictator? Is he trying to wipeout the Inhuman race?

If so...how can Cyclops be right?

>>87912664
Son, stop jackin' off to hentai so much.

>>87912781
>Is he trying to wipeout the Inhuman race?

He stopped a cloud that was killing off all mutants, and then sacrificed himself. That's pretty much it.

>>87912661
Attempted to blast the people who just gave the kill order for him after letting loose a pestilence on his people.

There's no way the inhumans come off non-monstrous in any of this. They're wrong from start to finish.

>>87908394
>save them

Inhumans deserve to be made extinct.

>>87912772
Oh, Spider-Man & The X-Men was also very good.

>>87912781
Beast got pissy with him in Utopia, Wolverine got pissy with him in Schism, and Captain America got pissy with him in AvX. The three of them spent years running a smear campaign on Cyclops now everyone thinks he's Hitler despite doing LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG.

>>87912781
Have you considered reading the comic? It's 4 issues.

>>87912834
>reading comics
Fuck off. If I gave a fuck about comics then I wouldn't be coming to /co/.

>>87912781
No, that's the crazy part.
He's only opposed to the Inhumans in that they unleashed the clouds and were content to let them be, and they didn't consider themselves responsible for the deaths.

But all he wanted was for his people to stop dying horribly, he wasn't trying to murder the Inhumans.

>>87912847

Too poor to afford the 30 bucks, huh? Sorry about your life anon.

>>87908394
Ewing is being WASTED on this shit.

He should be on a main X-book, or a Fantastic Four relaunch.

>>87912888
>paying for shit
lel I wouldn't buy it, even if it costed 0 dollars

>>87912834
Nice try, Marvel.

>>87912861
He fake died as he lived: Right as fuck.

Unfortunately he died for realsies like Beast lives, sad and alone in a lab.

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>>87912772
It amazes me how someone can be so... shortsighted, in lack of better word.

>>87912781
People saying Scott did nothing wrong isnt a meme. There has been a massive dissonance between his actions and the way people have been treating/talking about him. One of the worst parts of all of this is its the X-men that have been trashing him the most even though he has been doing things to help mutants without harming humans

>>87912908
Don't worry. I'm not judging you. I was once too poor to buy things too. When I was a child.

I hope things get better for you. Good luck.

>>87912951
Better be poor, than marvel shill like you

>>87912927
They've become a truly terrible publisher.

The worst part is that with Disney money behind them it doesn't even matter if it continues to effect sales.

>>87912888
>Too poor to afford the 30 bucks

Spending frivolously on bad comics is not a good thing, anon

>rocafort is off ultimates for this
no sir i dont like it

>>87912536
Another lame death right after the lame death in secret wars. Why do they hate this character? He isn't even used prominently in the movies.

>>87912743
You say that like they knew it was fake

>>87912805
They do, that was half of Emma's plan by making them look bad it will convince mutants to fight. Either way Medusa is still the queen. If you pull a gun on the president the secret service isn't going care if you're justified.

>>87913013
Marvel always hated him, and loved Wolverine. At least the current generation of writers at Marvel.

So Black Bolt purposely released the T-Bomb, knowing full well that they were responsible for gassing another race.

Black Bolt is from the Moon and is an offshoot of the Kree Empire.

Black Bolt isn't a dictator...he's a warlord! How isn't the governments and heroes of the world fighting back his declaration of war?!

>>87913010
It wouldn't be so bad if Foreman's colors weren't hideous.

>>87912951
There is no shame in being poor. But there is a shame in shilling bad comics anon. So fuck off with your lame baiting

>>87913052
>So Black Bolt purposely released the T-Bomb, knowing full well that they were responsible for gassing another race.
Well, no. They had no idea it was harmful, and if I'm remember it right releasing it was basically an accident.
It wasn't even harmful at first, because Marvel hadn't realized it was the perfect way to kill off mutants while also making them the bad guys and bolstering the Inhumans' numbers.

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>>87913052
The same governments that built giant death robots to snuff out that same race he just gassed?

Trump is the President now, you'll get used to this sort of thing.

>>87912970
It's pitiful to watch you try to cover for your inability to pay for something my retarded neighbor could scrape the change together to afford.

Here's some advice: if you're so sure someone is paying dudes to post here, maybe you can get a job and spend a little less time begging for information about comics here on 4-chan?

I'm trying to help you out here. Like I would any scrub holding a sign the side of the road begging for scraps.

>>87913111
>Well, no. They had no idea it was harmful
Nigga pls

>>87913003
Yeah, it's better to beg people to tell you all about these things second hand. You sure have it all figured out. Good for you.

>>87913111
Still why aren't the Inhumans trying to stop it and helping save Mutants and humans from dying or becoming Inhuman against their will?

Are they happy to have released a murderous gas that kills and maims everything it touches?

@87913128
>cringe: the post
also, no (you) for you

>>87913136
They didn't.

But they also didn't care even a little when it started killing mutants.

>>87913052
>So Black Bolt purposely released the T-Bomb, knowing full well that they were responsible for gassing another race.
Black Bolt didn't know that it would effect the mutants. Black Bolt wanted Maximus to make it so it would be diluted enough not to effect humans or mutants but still be able to cause terrigenesis.

But of course, Maximus is a literal super-villain who is actually capable of making new terrigen but chooses not as a fuck you to Medusa for usurping the throne, so it's entirely possible that he knew that M-Pox would happen and just didn't mention it to Blackagar.

>>87908381
I feel like this event is going to end with Beast being revealed as altering Terrigen in order to kill all mutants or something. It's amazing how much of a piece of shit they've made him that just his fucking face and once sentence is enough to piss me off.

>>87913111
>if I'm remember it right releasing it was basically an accident.
Nah, Black Bolt always intended on using it, he just needed an excuse. Thanos' invasion just gave him that excuse and made it so Black Bolt had to trigger the bomb earlier than he was originally planning to.

>>87913162
They did, you fucking casual

Also, even if they didn't, it wouldn't absolve them from any responsibility, quite the opposite.

If you want to defend this shit, at least pick a better argument

>>87913027
She gave the order first. It's quite clear.

>>87913178
What did beast do that was so wrong?

>>87913192
which makes BB an even bigger cuck

>>87912585
What did he say /co/

>>87913207
Joined Avengers.

>>87913219
X gon give it to ya

>>87913209
He's nothing more than her tool lately. Shame.

>>87908559
>Karkak... you're gay.

>>87913052
How many realities are there now in which Black Bolt tries this Assimilation plot? I feel like its the only thing he ever does. Why is he still a hero?

>>87913153
But they are helping...

By providing a pretty insignificant-looking amount of assistance to Beast's research, and only after months of casually letting tons of mutants die horribly.

And their new solution is yet another mutant cure.

>>87913231
Beast was only ever good in his Avengers days.

>>87913255
poetic justice for king asshole

>>87913153
>humans from dying or becoming Inhuman against their will?
I don't see how either are things that would be bad for the inhumans. The former doesn't effect them and the latter just gets them more subjects to rule.

>>87908860
I like how these bingos are always 70% things that will surely happen and 30% things that are extremely unlikely to. Except this time it's maybe 85-15

>>87913155
>maybe if I don't actually reply to him he'll let me go.

Get a job son. Stop asking for other people to buy books and tell you what's in them. Take a little responsibility if you're at all able to.

>shill

You mean adult. Adults buy things. Children ask for hand outs.

>>87913277
>And their new solution is yet another mutant cure.
Given the number of times "mutant cure"s have been undone, that actually wouldn't be the worst idea though. Disable the x-gene so people don't get the M-Pox which buys them enough time that they can find a cure for the disease without having mutants dieing every day.

@87913317
>more cringe
yawn

>>87912046
Is the beep before the crash.

>>87913287
But them not caring about deaths of innocent lives and subervting free will would make them villians and Scott even more right.

>>87913277
Why not just stop the gas or contain it instead of letting people die instead of waitching beast fuck around in a lab?

>>87913322
It just seems like destroying or managing the cloud would be much easier than altering the genetic makeup of thousand of people all over the planet.

>>87908343
>Marvel females drawn to look sexy
It's like a blast from the past!

>>87913344
I'll accept your surrender. You can continue to hide your responses like you hide from work apparently. I won't search for them. Toodles.

@87913440
>he keeps going
get a life loser

>>87913378
But muh culture!

>>87913219
Blackbolt was right.

>>87913368
>But them not caring about deaths of innocent lives and subervting free will would make them villians and Scott even more right.
When the Royals or any of their nuhumans, that's not them doing it for moral reasons. That's them doing it as a diplomatic mission and a PR move. Sure they don't want to see innocents die, but their top priority is the safety of their people and the status of their city-state above all else.

The Inhumans have been antagonists almost as often as they've been protagonists. They're still on the side of the "good guys," because other than Maximus they're not evil, but they're not superheroes (other than Crystal). Black Bolt and Attilan is more comparable to Namor and Atlantis than anything else. Hell, Attilan was over Atlantis for a bit and Triton spent years living there as Namor's buttbuddy.

>>87913535
More like Blackbolt was left

>>87913573
>When the Royals or any of their nuhumans go superheroing/on a mission
Fixed.

>>87913378
Been reading this thread and this comes up alot, especially with

>Storm can just create stormclouds and winds to control it

And

>Crystal can just control air

You're basically asking for global wide super-hurricanes that could kill thousands and impoverish millions just to save a few.

Why don't the mutants simply round up all the Mutants and go live on an Asteroid and wait for the terrigen to die down?

Instead of you know; thinking of a plan that would kill hundreds of humans.

I have a life with a job, and comic books that I can read because I paid for them.

>>87913585
But from his point of view, he was right.

>>87913594
Well what about magic?

They can get a bunch of wizards together to stop a Celestial, but a massive cloud of cancer is just too much bother.

>>87913621
dude, even on that picture,>>87912585
BB is on the LEFT side, while Cyclops is on the RIGHT side

>>87913640
Again; because a magic ritual that big would fuck shit up even more.

So again, why can't cyclops put aside his fucking matyr complex and just hang out in space.

Get help from the Shi'ar or his dad or something.

Fact is, I have hated mutant comics for ages because of cyclops being such an utter cuntrag.

>>87913657
You didn't really read his post did you?

>>87913527
But that's the exact opposite. Until now, most of the Inhumans hated the cloud too because it broke from their dogmatic rituals that they'd been practicing for thousands of years. Terrigenesis is supposed to be a holy and pure ritual that people go through after coming of age and being approved by the Genetic Counsel's eugenics program. A giant floating cloud made of diluted terrigen that turns everyone it contacts into an inhuman en mass is sacrilege to them.

DoX was the first instance where they implied the Inhumans wanted the cloud to stay, other than Black Bolt who does want the cloud since he wants to build an unstoppable inhuman army to protect Earth with and has been trying to pull off this "turn everyone into an inhuman" plan for years. But he seems to have stopped caring about that and become content with just running his bar and polishing his replica-Kaneda bike.

>>87913710
>You didn't really read his post did you?
calm your tits samefag

>>87913219
"Two down, one to go"

>>87913710
Why can't the inhumans fuck off to space and stay there? Why release their gas on earth?

>>87913710
>Again; because a magic ritual that big would fuck shit up even more.
Since when?

Again, I have to assume making a space god fuck off is a taller order than making a weird cloud go away.

>>87913710
The Inhumans used to LIVE in space.
Like, all of them.

>>87908559
>that lazy eye on the last panel

>>87913748
>Why release their gas on earth?
Because there were humans that had interbred with inhumans across the planet. As partially inhuman, that made them Black Bolt's rightful subjects but there was no way to figure out who was or wasn't.

So why not detonate a bomb that covers the world in terrigen and forces terrigenesis on every one of them. That's a whole lot of new inhumans and if you're an inhuman supremacist then that's great for you.

>>87913748
>>87913773

Because honestly, it's even less difficult than the Mutants moving out of the way of the cloud until it IS dealt with.

The Cloud isn't even a huge global catastrophe, it's basically only effecting mutants.

As a side note though, does Cyclops not see any of the Irony here about the Terrigen cloud and what he was doing with the phoenix?

>>87913832
So, BB is an evil tyrant?

>>87913052
because 20th Century Fox owns the movie rights to the X-Men and Marvel need the Inhumans to be the good guys.

>>87913835
Phoenix is a god of mutants. You don't mess with a god
If the god says "more mutants", you go along with it.

>>87913710
>cuntrag

Yeah, not bending over for the government is such a bitch thing to do, huh?

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>>87913748
They're going to space, anon!
Using scrapped X-Men plot, funny enough.

>>87913835
>Because honestly, it's even less difficult than the Mutants moving out of the way of the cloud until it IS dealt with.
How?
There's untold thousands of mutants all over the world, including people who have no idea that they ARE mutants.

The cloud is huge, but it's just one thing.

>As a side note though, does Cyclops not see any of the Irony here about the Terrigen cloud and what he was doing with the phoenix?
Except bringing back mutants didn't give people cancer and sterilize them.

>>87912245
>Kang the Conqueror
Former hero, technically.
>the Maker
Former hero.
>the New Pride
Led by a former hero.
>Giant Monsters
Many of whom are heroic.

>>87913892
not to mention that any human being can have a potential mutant offspring

>>87913892
>>87913872

>Except bringing back mutants didn't give people cancer and sterilize them.

No, it almost destroyed everyone because Hope wasn't prepared to control the Phoenix.

Also Terrigen only gives Mutants cancer and sterilize them, not blow up the planet.

I think people are forgetting that, Cyclops was basically gambling the entire world JUST for a few new mutants, he can't say Black Bolt is any worse when the Terrigen doesn't even harm normal people.

>>87913888
What scrapped X-men plot was that?

>>87913851
If it wasn't for the M-Pox which was an unplanned and unforeseen side effect that was tacked on by Marvel after the fact to force this conflict, then what Black Bolt did really wouldn't have been that different than what Cyclops wanted to do and Hope did in AvX.

Is the Terrigen Cloud really that different from The Phoenix? Did the world really "need" new mutants? Obviously if you're a mutant then the answer would be yes, but all those regular humans who suddenly had active x-genes because of the Phoenix being unleashed on the planet didn't exactly get a say in the matter. Same deal. If you're an inhuman, then all these people who "should" be inhumans but aren't because of circumstances (like all those people that "should" have been mutants but weren't) getting their powers triggered against their will by a hero on that side.

Cyclops and Black Bolt really have a lot in common when it comes down to it. If Utopia had gone differently and Scott found himself as King of the Mutants, can you really say his rule would been that much different?

>>87913949
>No, it almost destroyed everyone
it didn't destroy anyone
Phoenix Five gave peace to earth.
But if anything, it was all Avengers fault for acting like retards

>Also Terrigen only gives Mutants cancer and sterilize them
Ah, you're being facetious...

>>87913980
X-Men in space. Dunno. Ask Marts, it was his idea. It got shitcanned when he left Marlel to found Aftershock.

>>87913949
The Phoenix was coming, like it or not. You don't fight the Phoenix and win. Rachel went toe to toe with the Beyonder. Meanwhile the Inhumans poisoned the planet's atmosphere of their own free will

>>87914044
I don't remember Cyclops being an evil Mutant Tyrant. BB is an evil tyrant. Fuck him

>>87914048
>X-men in space
That's hardly a new or novel idea, anon. The X-men went to space all the fucking time under Claremont.

>>87914047
>Phoenix didn't go into hope because it was splintered
>After it was reformed, it did go into hope and she instantly almost went Dark Phoenix without Iron Fists help.

Someone doesn't seem to understand.

>>87914066
You can not hold out your arms like a Martyr Cyclops wants to be, Everyone had every right to be a fraid when Cyclops's plan would have killed the world.

>>87914077
>implying I don't know that already
Dunno, everyone talked about that like all muties will fuck off to space forever. I dimly remember people going full BUT MUH CROSSOVERS.

>>87914067
You don't remember when he trusted his insane son from the future who tried to kill the Avengers because the Avengers were right to worry about Hope failing to contain the Phoenix?

>>87914127
>Cable
>insane
okay, seriously, fuck off avengerfag

>>87914066
>Meanwhile the Inhumans poisoned the planet's atmosphere of their own free will
Not really their own free will. Their King was acting in secret while colluding with his evil brother, no one else knew. Medusa knew something was up but not the specifics. I'm sure the Inhumans weren't too happy about having their homes get blown up all so some half-breeds could go through a heretical terrigenisis process.

>>87914095
It didn't matter what anyone did. The phoenix was xoming to earth. The avengers fucked with the natural order of things and got the phoenix 5 but in the end the Phoenix got the redhead that it wanted. You're complaining that someone predicted a meteor would strike the planet and was right.

>>87914100
If you're talking about the Planet-X idea that Remender was originally going to do before that all went to shit, that's not even remotely what the Royals ongoing is about. Even then, if anything, "mutants get sick of dealing with Earth's bullshit and take all their people to fuck off to space" is an Inhumans plotline that X-men would have been ripping off. I mean shit "let's relocate to space because fuck Earth" is one of the like 3 inhuman stories that always get told.

>>87914095
>You can not hold out your arms like a Martyr Cyclops wants to be, Everyone had every right to be a fraid when Cyclops's plan would have killed the world.
But it didn't, and the Avengers' alternative turned five people into insanely powerful nutjobs because the Phoenix wasn't meant for them.

>>87914142
Then black bolt and his faggy brother should be executed and the cloud should be destroyed.

>>87914127
>Cable
>insane
Ok, now you're just shitposting.

>>87914188
That Maximus has never been executed is inexcusable, yeah. Blackagar had his throne usurped and got cucked by Johnny Storm. That's a fate far worse than death.

You can come back from death easily. You can't come back from getting cucked.

>>87914178
>>87914160
>>87914139
>>87914190


And if everyone listened to Cyclops and Cable, the world would have ended.

Cyclops literally listened to a mad Prophet, started a war because of it and didn't try a single ounce of diplomancy.

Go ahead, tell me, What would Cyclops have done when Hope went Dark Phoenix?

>>87914222
>And if everyone listened to Cyclops and Cable, the world would have ended.
It wouldn't. Rachel Grey says hello

>>87914188
You make it sound like Killing Blackbolt is an easy thing.

>>87914233
The Phoenix didn't WANT Rachel Grey did it? It wanted Hope.

Rachel Grey couldn't stop Dark Phoenix from happening.

>>87914233
>"oh shit, Phoenix is getting uppity again"
>shoves Rachel at it
>>87914241
Everything is difficult in comics until it isn't.
batman-flash-loony-tunes-endgame-gag.jpeg

>>87914222
Rachel commanded the Phoenix Force for years.
If it's where it wants to be, nothing bad happens.

>Cyclops literally listened to a mad Prophet, started a war because of it and didn't try a single ounce of diplomancy.
Captain America showed up on his doorstep demanding the most important mutant be released into his custody, then unleashed a superhero army to take her by force.

>>87914260
Dark Phoenix isn't some inevitability.

>>87914260
Phoenix already visited before, and actually gave birth to Hope. Any other argument, or do you want just to move goalposts?

>>87914309
The guy flat-out said that he just hates the X-Men, what is the point in debating him?

>>87914299
>>87914283
>>87914309


Hope was literally going Dark Phoenix until Iron Fist taught her Channeling spirit shit. That is LITERALLY what was happening.

Christ, Xfags are some of the most delusional shit, no wonder Marvel wants to be ride of your tripe.

Cyclops was a genocidal fuck who literally flipped a coin for the planet with not a single ounce of diplomacy.

>B-But Cap showed up on his shores

No, the confrontation started with Cable trying to merc the Avengers because Cable forsaw it, and instead of telling people like a sane person should, he acted like an isolationist asshole.

>>87914322
I said I hated Cyclops, he's by far the lowest point the X-men have been in years, He's been a terrible leader for the Mutants and just makes things consistantly worse all the fucking time.

>>87914299
It was in Hope's case. She couldn't control the Phoenix Force, she actually begged Wolverine to kill her before it was too late. Iron Man saved her life by splitting the Phoenix.

>>87914353
>He's been a terrible leader for the Mutants and just makes things consistantly worse all the fucking time.
Stop visiting Hypercrisis threads, characters don't write themselves.

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>>87914222

You're dumb or didn't read the comics.

Cable came back to the past usinf Dr. Doom's time-machine because he learned that when the X-Men handled Hope Summers to the Avengers someone in the Avengers killed Hope, starting a war with the X-Men and dooming the planet because when the Phoenix Force showed up and Hope was dead the cosmic bird scourged the planet. So Cable tried to stop the Avengers before that could happen and when he failed begged his father to never handle Hope to them.

The Phoenix Force was coming to Earth one way or another and the reason why was because Scarlet Witch messed the cosmic design when she wished for mutants to stop existing. So the cosmic bird was coming to Earth burning everything in its path to correct Wanda's mistake.

Hope Summers BY COSMIC DESIGN was chosen to be the Phoenix Force's host to fix that mistake and again BY COSMIC DESIGN she was destined to control the Phoenix Force with the help of her Five Lights.

The problem started when the Avengers attacked the Utopia island giving the robot Unit enough time for him to teleport and erase the minds of Hope's Five Lights. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF THAT HOPE NEEDED IRON FIRST'S HELP. SO THAT'S ON THE AVENGERS, NOT CYCLOPS.

And Cable was right in the end, because WOLVERINE TRIED TO KILL HOPE. He was the Avenger that killed Hope and doomed the world. He was also the asshole that told the Avengers to invade Utopia and kidnap Hope. And even if he hadn't killed her, the Avengers best plan was to keep her locked up in the Negative Zone, which would also doom the planet once the Phoenix Force reached the planet since Hope would be there.

But hey, let's blame Cykes.

>>87914353
Maybe it'd be better to focus on Marvel's intentional ruination of the X-Men, rather than getting mad at fictional people.

>>87914399
Damn straight I blame Cyclops.

Cyclops never once tried to reason with anyone. He never once said

>Oh look COSMIC DESIGN deems that we need Hope here on the planet to contain the Phoenix please help us.

No, he instantly butted heads and escalated the situation.

And at no point did the Five Lights ever be said to work. Who were the specified Lights to work? What if Kenji was one that was needed?

Turns out the COSMIC DESIGN prophecy came true when the Avengers and X-men worked together, Without Cyclops causing rifts.

Because that's all he ever did, cause rifts.

>>87914532

>Cyclops never once tried to reason with anyone. He never once said

HIS SON TOLD HIM THAT IN THE FUTURE HE CAME FROM THE X-MEN BELIEVED IN THE AVENGERS AND ONE OF THE AVENGERS ENDED UP KILLING HOPE. HIS SON BEGGED HIM TO NEVER HANDLE HER OR TRUST THEM. And you know what? Cable was proven right when Wolverine went alone behind Cap's back and tried to assassinate Hope.

Let's not forget that when he met the Avengers on his shores that he had Emma Frost by his side and he only made a move after consulting with her what were really Cap's intentions. Emma told him that they came prepared for war and wouldn't leave without Hope Summers. That Cap wasn't there to negotiate.

SO FUCK YOU!
WHERE WERE THE AVENGERS BEFORE? WHERE WERE THEM?

>>87914233
Rachel Grey had to be begged out of burning down the universe to defeat Beyonder by Storm. Rachel is FAR more competent than Hope since Hope gets ready to burn shit for trying to teach her ethics and knows less about controlling the phoenix than the students at JGHS did within their first month of classes.
The phoenix is always on a hair trigger from burning the universe ahead of time and the point behind it grabbing a host is to prevent that from happening.

>>87914532

>And at no point did the Five Lights ever be said to work. Who were the specified Lights to work? What if Kenji was one that was needed?

Gillen's Uncanny X-Men tie-ins.

>>87914658
And where were the avengers then?
Somehow everything turned out fine and X-Men managed to deal with it on their own.

>>87914644
How about Cyclops goes to the Avengers, tells them what Cable said, because let's face it, Everyone knew it would be Wolverine, and have Thor guard Hope.

bam, Sniktbub can't harm shit. Everyone wins.
>>87914659
Kenji was one of the OG Lights, he died.

Was Pixie there to stand in instead? Would she have worked?

>>87914682
Being kept out of Mutant shit because you Xfags would go fucking ballistic if a Non-mutant ever helped out.

It's why Mutants are always better off outside of X-books.

>>87914714
>Being kept out of Mutant shit because you Xfags would go fucking ballistic if a Non-mutant ever helped out.
Good, because flatscans suck at saving the world

To quote the Great Wonder Man "Avengers create more problems than they solve"

>>87914714

>How about Cyclops goes to the Avengers, tells them what Cable said

Because he gave Cable his word and by then, after everything he and the mutants went through, was already wary of the Avengers.

>>87914742
Fuck yeah. And let's not forget that during Second Coming, Avengers had problem with getting through the red ball, so instead they made a picnic outside of Utopia, all while watching mutants get killed

"Earth's Mightiest" my ass

>>87908381
Jesus christ Hank. You are too damn cheerful about this after years of being somber all the time.
>>87914682
I don't know exactly as it's not their job to be constantly hovering over the X-men like the gestapo nor would they approve of doing so.

>>87914659
Gillen also explicitly said that if either side had gotten their way everyone would have died. Everything in AvsX was basically each side's retardation canceling out the other's. That and Tony Stark. Tony Stark was gaming everyone since he cheated and took notes on wtf to do from his future self so technically everyone should be praising Tony Stark for making Earth survive that clusterfuck.
>>87914714
The lights were being explicitly separated by the deathbot Cyclops has in his secret prison. I don't know why anyone references the lights as if they were going to work during that event.

>>87914731
Yeah, because the X-men have a much better track record.


>>87914742
And this is why Cyclops, the Isolationist Martyr with a saviour complex, should not lead the X-men.

>>87914804
>took notes on wtf to do from his future self
The ABSOLUTE FUCKING HYPOCRISY

>>87914806
>Yeah, because the X-men have a much better track record.
As a matter of fact, they do.

>>87914804

>Gillen also explicitly said that if either side had gotten their way everyone would have died.

Where?

>The lights were being explicitly separated by the deathbot Cyclops has in his secret prison. I don't know why anyone references the lights as if they were going to work during that event.

They were going to work and the deathbot only managed to separate them from Hope thanks to the Avengers.

>>87914806
Let's be fair. They only had as much interest in Hope as they did by the time AvsX rolled around because they were attacked by Cable. It was a self fulfilling prophecy.
>>87914840
Iron man interview shortly after AvsX since he was about to write Iron Man.

>>87914836
How can you even say that when the X-men bring the Phoenix to Earth by sheer existence?

I mean seriously, what problems did the Avengers cause?

>>87914840
They were going to work and the deathbot only managed to separate them from Hope thanks to the Avengers.
You mean the deathbot that could have escaped at any time and defeated everyone whenever it wished without much effort? Are you talking about some other deathbot? Unit clearly didn't need anyone's help to do anything.