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How does it feel that, once again, the fucking Polynesians are getting the monopoly on representing our ethnic group?

I want to hear from all my Malay-Polynesian, Formosan, and other non-Oceanic siblings about what watching Moana felt like. Bathala and Antaboga have to, yet again, make way for Toarangi and his beach bum family fucks because American sailors liked decorating their mainland homes with Tiki themes after the wars. Our pantheons and mythologies get left behind because our ancestors had the audacity to like wearing shirts every once in a while.

Is this what every other South American race felt like when they were watching the Emperor's New Groove?

Australian natives need not apply, you fuckers get enough representation already.

Honestly, I'm not even mad at the regular Polynesians, Moana was a pretty dope movie and Hakas are cool. It's just weird for me to see a movie where everything is one degree off in everything from fashion, mythologies, and naming that I can feel is mine but isn't at the same time.

At least we all have coconuts.
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Butt-hurt much?
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>>87882374

There is the Madagascar movie series and they're part Austronesian, but yeah, is only about animals and not people.
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>>87882374

Why Polynesian men are hulking mosters and the other Austronesians are skinny Asians?
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>>87882374
Yeah, the biomechanical beings need representation too.
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You may have your little corner of the world, but we all have to share a planet. At some point, we're all just going to have to give up and accept that. "Your culture", "my culture", in the end, we're all from Earth. Get over it.
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Does cultural appropriation make you feel down? Do thing seem hard or tough? And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft, and you feel that you've had quite enough?

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving and revolving at 900 miles an hour. It's orbiting 19 miles a second, so it's reckoned, the sun that is the source of all our power. Now the sun, and you and me, and all the stars that you can see are moving at a million miles a day in the outer spiral arm at 40,000 miles an hour, in a galaxy we call the Milky Way. Our galaxy itself contains 100 billion stars. It's 100 thousand light-years side to side. It bulges in the middle, 16,000 light-years thick, but out by us it's just 3000 light-years wide. We're 30,000 light-years from galactic central point, we go 'round every 200 million years, and our galaxy is only one of millions and billions in this amazing and expanding universe. The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding in all of the directions it can whiz. As fast as it can go, the speed of light you know, twelve million miles a minute, and that's the fastest speed there is.

So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure, how amazingly unlikely is your birth. And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space, 'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth.
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Now you know what it feels like to be Norwegian or Danish while those gay fucking Swedes whore themselves out to the entire world for attention and declare their rotten little burg of Stockholm, "the capital of Scandinavia" despite never having led a unified Scandinavia liked Denmark did or even pulling in the same amounts of visitors as Oslo or Copenhagen.

All that matters is how hard you force your particular brand of culture on others, so hop to.
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>>87882374
You want your culture exploited and misrepresented by Disney too?
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>>87882374

Austronesians have small penises.
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>>87882878
Fact: Filipinos are the strongest race in the world.
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>>87882374
I don't really care, I'm not a cultural cuck who gets mad that my skin color isn't being represented in some dumb generic cartoon.
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Dude...This movie isn't an ehtnology essay. It's not the end all be all of culture. It's AN ANIMATED MOVIE FOR CHILDREN. It doesn't "represent" you. It just uses pieces of a culture as source material.
It's not a documentary on your people.
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>>87882628
From one astronomy fan to another, thanks for the lesson. :^)

I wish there was some animation to show all that.
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>>87882661
Stay mad, little brother.
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Did they ever explain why it's called Vaiana in most of Europe?

Sorry if it's already been mentioned, I don't give a dick about this movie.
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>>87882928
It maybe because Disney didn't want the film to be associated with that Italian pornstar Moana Pozzi, but that only explains Italy and probably just a fraction of Europe.
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>>87882962
It's called Vaiana in at least 18-20 countries, but in Italy it's called Oceania
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>>87882628
>So, can we have your liver?
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>>87882551

Polynesians have mixed with native Papuans, pinoys/malays/indos have mixed with negritos who are small. Only taiwanese abbos are pure austronesian.
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>>87882661
>All that matters is how hard you force your particular brand of culture on others, so hop to.

This. If people want to stop being mad at misrepresentation/appropiation, they need to bother their governments/society until they care about cultural diplomacy.
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>>87882975
>Moana is called "Oceania" in Italy itself
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>>87882374
>>87882661
>implying you have it bad
I'm french, and our only representation is always a fucking parisian. AND EVERYBODY FUCKING HATE PARISIAN.
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>>87883108
> represented by your capital
> which is also a tourist hot spot and with instantly recognizable landmarks

God, guess why?
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>>87883108
L'hon hon! Play me a contemporary tune from AmeliƩ on your accordion Monsieur so that I may enjoy my pain du chocolat and my red wine combo while I adjust my beret and striped shirt.
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>>87882374
>make major movie about an ethny that isn't usually represented in movies put out by this company
>people complain that more obscure ethnies aren't represented
Not to be that guy but why bother?

Also you don't want your country to be "represented" in a Disney movie because they'll do a half-ass job of it and adapt it to be entertaining rather than faithful. Which is fine but not representative for shit.
t. France
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>>87882613
nwo shill pls go
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Disney should represent EVERYONE in EVERY movie.

Fuck cultural uniqueness, fuck having traditions and things that sets us apart and makes us interesting as people.
What we need is a big, brown disgusting mess with no cultural coherency or anything to bind people together except misery.

Sweden: the Movie coming 2020.
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>>87883108
Nobody in Beauty and the Beast or Sleeping Beauty was Parisian though. They might aswell not have been French, sure, but they weren't Parisians.

Also I doubt a guy called "Linguini" is actually French.

Last but not least half of Paris is people from the rest of the country that instantly become just as insufferable as soon as they move there.
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>>87883108
>AND EVERYBODY FUCKING HATE PARISIAN.
And everybody fuckin hate french people.
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>>87883171
Chill out chief Runs-with-premise.
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>>87882901
Not OP, I agree with you but most people know about other places thanks to pop culture (Is that a flaw of society and not the movie? Yes) but non the less If your culture is misrepresented to the eyes of the rest of the world you have the right to be pissed off.
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>>87883189
kek
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>>87883216
Fucking sweet beard.
Was Nero the emperor who trained 3-5 year old boys to swim underwater in his pool and nibble his testicles?
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>>87883171
Sweden is a small nation state. You're thinking of large multicultural empires like USA or Russia.
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>>87883240
It's much easier and faster to fill a tiny pool with shit than a big one.
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>>87883174
10% of the French population is of partial Italian descent due to immigration from Italy

>without immigration the italians would have overrun all of europe
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>>87883232
>sweet beard
>neckbeard
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>>87883250
The metaphorical large pools are already filled with metaphorical shit.
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Could be worse

Could be Carribean
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>>87883378
Literally the wrong ocean, potato.
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>>87883232
that was Augustus' successor, Tiberius. Nero was 3 emperors later. It went Augustus, Tiberius, Caligula, Claudius, Nero, then he fucked everything up for the Judo-Claudian Dynasty.
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Pretty goddamn surprised this thread got any traction for such a specific gripe.

Now I'm wondering how Polynesian folks feel about the movie.
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>>87882374
>Formosan,
What the fuck does Taiwan have to do with shit?
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>>87883476
Non-Chinese people from Taiwan are pretty island Native dude
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>>87883108
>EVERYBODY FUCKING HATE PARISIAN.
No they don't. The reason is americans think you looks so pure
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>>87883516
>.t parisian thinks people like Paris
Lel
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>>87883108
Brazil has the same. Everything is Rio.
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desu it's the same with meriga

everything is new york
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>>87882374
So the fuck what?
Imagine people who matter were this fussy.
Paris dominates the international representation of France and Bavaria is the first thing people go to with Germany.
Do you see people from Burgundy or the Rhine valley bitch and moan?
There are fucking limits of how closely you can be expected to be represented.
I'm sure there are villages still in Maine that Steven King never wrote a book about and they don't get to demand one, either.
You can set a movie in one place, really. You are not being discriminated against for it not being your tiny island.
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>Disney movies are not culturally accurate
WHAT
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>>87883128
>not dipping your croissant in cafe au lait
Tu es doing it le wrong.
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>>87883333
I'm aware, I'm just saying he's not exactly the Frenchest.
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>>87883516
That's fiction Paris, when people who have that idealized image of Paris actually get there they have panic attacks.
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>>87883142
In any case, at least you're not Germany or Russia.
You know you won't be the villain by default.
Curse those snappy uniforms!
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>>87883611
>I'm sure there are villages still in Maine that Steven King never wrote a book about
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>>87883611
>Do you see people from the Rhine valley bitch and moan?
Yes. Bayern is a bunch of faggots.
t. BW
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>>87883712
Oy vey.
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>Is this what every other South American race felt like when they were watching the Emperor's New Groove?
No
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>>87883378
You're carribean? I thought you were some kind of outer space potato man.
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>>87882374
Pfft. In most of the West Latino is a race, a skin color, and a single culture.
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>>87883736
Yes, but you don't make angry theads about Nightcrawler, gell?
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>>87882374

grow a spine, man people are so touchy today.
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I'd play a videogame with Tongan themes or watch a TV drama set in 1600s Fiji or whatever.

Get to creating content; there are consumers.
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>>87882613
Unfortunately nobody is gonna get this until we have a couple different Star Trek races we're forced to live in close proximity to, and then we'll just have ten billion humans whining about MUH URF in unison.
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>>87883611
You have someone in this thread literally complaining about Paris taking the lions share of representation for France.
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>>87882374

Im from Indonesian & i can tell you this.

We have Small Dicks & our girls arent pretty.
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>>87884955
Complaining that it takes up all the representation in thousands of instances.
OP complained that the one time someone cares for the Pacific islands it's not his island.
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>>87883171
Disney's actually been pretty decent at representing different cultures with their movies since forever. or at the very least in a way that doesn't come across as overly pandering.
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>>87885240
Indonesia should never have drifted away from the continent.
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>>87882374

I'm south american and I loved the Emperor's New Groove. I think you are taking this kids movie a little too seriously.
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>>87883108
honhonhonhonhon
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>>87888424
Omelette du baguette
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You fuckers don't understand! The color of the triangles of their sails are a slightly different tint of red than the color of the triangles on MY people's sails!

Not the same at aaaallll.
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>>87882613
Fuck off globalist faggot.
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>>87882374
More importantly, was Disney ACTUALLY accurate to whatever culture they portrayed, or did they westernize the shit out of it?
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>>87882374
>Australian natives need not apply, you fuckers get enough representation already
Aus natives can't even use the internet, mate
They hocked the PC for cigarettes at cash converters
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>>87890209
They were not allowed to portray a single goddamned thing that was not approved by a group of about 40 Hawaiian "native culture experts"

Those guys got pissed off at things like the main character having her hair down while wearing X dress for 2 minutes of screen time etc.
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>>87890718
What about female empowerment? Were polynesians actually permissive of female action heroes?
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>>87883516
>No they don't
I do. I think Paris is an overgrown tumor. Filled with assholes and literal garbage.
And the worst thing is I have to go through it everytime I take the train, since all french railways go there.

Hey, I actually feel better now.
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>>87882928

Vaiana sounds like a brand of vaginal cream. Terrible.
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>>87882551
My pet theory is successive genetic bottlenecks. Samoans have high frequency of a CrebRF variant that causes a 1 point BMI increase compared to wild type. This probably was selected for because of droughts and long voyages hopping from island to island. Theoretically if there were more islands, the further you got from Asia the fatter the natives would get until they reached an equilibrium point. But that's just my theory.
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>>87882928
Some Disney Twitter account claimed that "Moana" is a registered trademark in EU and they can't use the name for that reason.
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Let me know when they make a friggn movie about West Africa then I may care
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>>87890556
>implying they didn't hock it to sniff petrol
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>>87893936
Why? Are you a fan of ebola? Or eating bats?
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>>87882374
Why do people like the Haka so much? It looks kind of dumb to me, but it might just be because i saw it way too many times in high school.
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That's just what you get. PatF is the only Disney film we're going to get with black people for another films. Unless they finally make that Aida movie or something.
inb4 WE WUZ
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>>87895737
I liked it because it did look dumb and it felt overused to the point of comedy.

Probably not the intention of the movie, but it made if funnier for me at least.
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>>87882374
I find it funny that they had to change the movie's title in my country because Moana is the name of a very, very famous pornstar
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>>87890856
of course they were! Only cis white males enforced the patriarchy, ever, in all of history.
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>Shitskins arguing among themselves
Why does it matter when all non-whites deserve the rope anyways?

You're all Untermenschen to me
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>>87896423
Go back to argentina, no one cares.
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>>87896458
>This subhuman asshurt
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>>87882613
Found the kike.
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>>87896423
Why did you post that smug Syrian, anon?
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There isn't enough little-islander hate in this thread from big-islanders.
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>>87882374

Hey be happy you got a movie. The Mexicans got a fucking kid's show and the bitch is voiced by a fucking Dominican.
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>>87896483
He looks like he found an extra surprise decoder ring in his cereal.
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>>87882962
In Spain, "Moana" is trademarked by a perfume company which operates in Europe and Disney just decided to rename her to a different Polynesian name.
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>>87896423
>edgy
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>Moana is a Abo
>sleeps on the road after sailing for like three hours and huffs coconut paint
>world dies
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>>87896710
Everything is topsy turvy, though.

Like, everything is the same except for one goddamn detail. The boats are exactly the same except their sails are triangular instead of trapezoidal. Their percussion is the same measure, shape, and musical sensibility except they're made of hollowed wood instead of hollow brass. They use the wrong constellations for hand navigation. The sprouting animal plant isn't the durian but the coconut. The dumb crab king that gets tricked in the underworld is a robber crab instead of a regular crab or a sea turtle, though I think that's a stylistic choice on Disney's part.

I'm going crazy with these switches and substitutions.
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>>87882988
>tfw RepoMan the musical was just a five minute python sketch stretched into an entire movie.
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>>87896912
Also the raising the sky myth was just because Maui was fucking around instead of folks figuring out mortars and pestles.
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