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Why is everything from the new canon cancerous bullshit?

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What is she, /swco/?

So finally saw the latest episode. Am I supposed to hate Iron Squadron as much as I did? I didn't dislike the episode but it wasn't a favorite for me. The absolute best part was Thrawn sending Konstantine off to fail and possibly die without leaving room for objection.

>>87879576
Because that is what you want it to be, and you refuse to accept anything otherwise

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>>87879576
Killing this thread early I see

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>>87879576

>>87879619
Crashing the thread with no survivors

>>87879619
I'm still mad we never saw the NR fleet. I don't even care if it isn't entirely gone, since rationally you don't keep your entire armada in orbit over the capitol. I just wanted to see sexy new capitol ships besides the (admittedly fine) new Destroyers.

>>87879606
Not sure anyone liked the new episodes. Maybe the Iron Squadron will be important later on, but it felt like a really pointless episode. I think maybe they wanted to contrast Ezra as he is now with Ezra as he was at the beginning of the series, but that seems really unnecessary.

>>87879660

The way they dealt with the New Republic definitely left a poor taste, apparently you destroy one system and the New Republic has no fleet and no command anymore

It was only done because you had to have your underdog rebels

>>87879535
That feel when I pointed out the resemblance between them and you made a thread dedicated to it.

This is a true /swco/ honor.

>>87879701
Yeah, it wasn't the worst. Sabine got to be useful, Thrawn's brief appearance was fucking hilarious, and Commander Sato has some backstory now, but the meat of it just didn't work for me.

What's the next episode slated to be? I don't keep up with the promos that much. I enjoyed the episode before this way more than I thought I would then was let down by this one. Maybe the next will be a good one.

>>87879660
I still cannot think of any good reason an entire galactic fleet, something considered "vaunted" so you know they are proud of it, and they park the entire thing over their capital? Maybe Hux was being ironic?

The only explanation I can think of comes from Bloodlines when it turns out that the New Republic was being dick ass slow about actually patrolling any of the galaxy they pinky swore they'd defend because the Senate was a bunch of bickering, well, basically us whenever we try to talk about the quality of any of the movies.

>>87879718
I can buy the entire loss of your capitol world and a lot of ships causing enough disarray to make you unable to function in the tiny time frame we had from there to the ending, I mostly was mad about the lack of new ships we get to see on screen period. Expand the ship lore, faggots! Maybe we'll see some more in the next one or something.

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http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/New_Republic_Starfleet

>While one fleet of the Starfleet remained with the Galactic Senate which moved to different member worlds on a rotational basis, the majority of Starfleet was scattered across several bases throughout New Republic space including one on Mirrin Prime.

>>87879739
We're in for a Hondo episode next week, with Azmorigan and dark troopers also involved.

>>87879601
A meme

>>87879893
For whatever it is worth since it's from Aftermath, Mon Mothma wanted the New Republic military cut to 10% of the current rather hefty level they were at when dealing with the last of the hostile Imperial Remnant. She had enough ships she felt she could send to anywhere in the galaxy and basically wipe out entire planets, which is an Imperial standard she wasn't comfortable with.

She wanted individual worlds to be able to raise their own defense forces if they wanted and the New Republic would train them. No clue if that ever happened but I imagine key worlds like Dac would always have their own ships.

>>87879934
Hey man, relax. Be cool. Rig-anon just got back from a long vacation. Or exile. Or drug induced coma, fuck if I know.

>>87879893
I fucking KNEW it. I knew Disney was going to explain away Abrams' stupidity.

>>87879919
Well that sounds pretty good. Hondo is always a fucking delight.

>>87879615
the new canon is shit, accept it
>shits all over the old out of spite for it being better
>ahsoka everywhere for no reason
>darth vader has a gf
>stronk female bullshit
>le resisttance

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>>87879535
This is the second time my OC became the OP.
But I can't remember what the first was.

>>87879997
They still lost a "substantial" portion, whatever the fuck that means. Their chain of command is also borked. Not just the Senate and likely their military command being destroyed along with Hosnian Prime but apparently those local defense fleets Mon Mothma wanted answer to the Senators, who were mostly killed (I'd expect some were offworld). They can be replaced but it will take time and it'll be a helluva mess.

What I'd honestly rather have them fix is in Episode VIII Leia has to step up and try to fill the void left by the loss of the Senate and Chancellor so they dump the whole Resistance bullshit in favor of her working to pull together the New Republic and keep it from fragmenting and get them back into fighting shape to resist the First Order. Fuck being a rebel again and that whole "what I was best at" fuckery. Giving people hope and a fighting chance was always what she and the others were best at.

>>87880031
>the new canon is shit, accept it

The new canon doesn't retcon itself every five seconds like the old canon did and the new canon is actually canon

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>>87880031
>no it doesn't
>no she isn't
>no he doesn't
>cry more faggot
>hurr durr reddit

Great argument.

>>87880484
Hey man, you try watching your new best but sweaty friend nearly get raped to death by the monsters you let loose.

>>87879576

Diversity shit over good and unique characters

Identity politics rammed up its ass

Not pushing the boundaries for philosophy and world building

You know, all the usual shit that's killing Hollywood.

Rebels, TFA, the new canon comics and novels, are completely mediocre due to the above reasons.

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>>76561188
>http://movieweb.com/star-wars-secret-movies-in-development-lucasfilm/

>>87880922
>d-diversity agenda!
Back to /pol/ with you

I love it when the dark side of diversity pandering comes out.

>A lesbian Moff!
>She has slave girls, and is a terrible human being.

>>87879734
>>87880041

Thank you for the OC, you turned my imagination into reality.

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>>87880922
>I haven't actually watched or read any of the new stuff but I heard it was SJW tumblr bullshit so I'm gonna bitch about it!
Last (you) you're getting from me

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>>87879535
>Now, I think we should have a program that raises stormtroopers from birth, just like they did with clones in the Clone Wars. We've got a few options for how we can do this, we can ask true Imperial patriots to give up their children for the greater good, or maybe we can just take the babies ourselves... or, or maybe we can have a group of women, maybe a couple hundred or more, dedicated to giving birth to new babies for the stormtrooper army, and we'll choose them based on physical attributes, you know, to make good, strong soldier babies, and maybe... maybe high-ranking Imperial officers like me can volunteer to be the ones to put the babies inside those women...

>Hux, that's asinine.

>>87881056
Doesnt the First Order just take babies? I don't really remember if they said precisely where they got their troops from

Rebels is like terrible characters in an amazing storyline (most of the time)

>>87881129
More like terrible characters in a sub par storyline that only gets good when its borrowing from TCW or including actual serious threats like Vader or Tarkin

>>87881124
I don't think they've ever specified, but Finn seems to believe that's the case at least.

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>>87881151
So basically, the First Order is bad because it steals children and indoctrinates them, but its ok when the Jedi do it

>>87881129
>>87881145
Hera and kanan are good.
Chopper and Zeb are ok.
Ezra and Sabine are garbo.

>>87881167
The Jedi don't steal the kids, though

>>87881213
Thats what they want you to believe

>>87881213
The Dagoyans don't exactly agree with that. But then their queen thinks Jar Jar is sexy so what the hell do they know?

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>>87881213
That's what they want you to think

>>87881247
Stop Jedi pedophilia! Down with the corrupt order!

>>87881262
>guys, do you get it? they're nazis. I know its pretty subtle and you might have missed it

>>87881247
We already settled this. Plo Koon is innocent. Mo Poon was impersonating him

>>87881290
>see, here they are putting their fists in the air, its supposed to be like a nazi salute. I bet you didnt even realize that, but its these subtle things that make this movie great

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>>87881290
This one trooper letting us know how he really feels.

>>87881269
>But JJ, the Empire was already a pretty clear Nazi analogue
>Yeah but we need to make them Nazier!

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>>87881290
Fucking loved his Hitler speech.

>>87881324
It would've been better if the movie gave us more context for it. Like I think Gleeson did a great job delivering it but it's hard to get fired up when you have no idea what he's talking about and the followup scene is him destroying a planet that's never been mentioned and a reaction shot of people we've never seen before.

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>>87880941
That's not "/pol/", anon. That's reality. Marxist faggots control the media, and everything they make is connected to their agenda.

>>87879576
Because no explanations or worldbuilding. That, and the Stormtroopers look like humanoid iPods.

>>87881349
>it's hard to get fired up when you have no idea what he's talking about
First off, you don't really have to know what someone's talking about to get fired up. Just look at real life supporters of both candidates during this year's election. Second, I don't fet how anyone would be confused with his speech. He pretty much said, New Republic bad, Resistance bad, bow to the FO. I could care less about the planet too. Nobody cared for Alderaan, not even the main characters because they forget about it.

>>87881387
>Nobody cared for Alderaan, not even the main characters because they forget about it.
The major story contribution of Alderaan's destruction wasn't that it was a tragedy, but that it was the place the heroes needed to get to, and its destruction completely derails their journey.

Hosnian Prime's destruction has no real purpose being being a big tragedy for the sake of being a big tragedy, and it doesn't work because the movie doesn't flesh them out. If Alderaan's destruction involved a sudden cut to a bunch of people looking up in fear it'd be just as weak as Hosnian's destruction because we have no reason to care about those people. ANH doesn't suddenly bring in the sad Schindler's List music when it happens.

>>87881349
All he said was that the NR and Resistance are treacherous and that the FO should be worshipped. It's not hard to understand, anon.

>>87881412
this
JJ a shit

>>87881387
>First off, you don't really have to know what someone's talking about to get fired up
Speak for yourself

>>87881324
It was TERRIBLE.
Uncommonly bad acting from Gleeson.

>>87881349
It's not hard to understand what he's talking about, but it is hard to care when the speech is literally the first time a lot of this stuff has come up.

>>87881412
>but that it was the place the heroes needed to get to, and its destruction completely derails their journey.
But we get a good look at Obi-Wan feeling all broken up inside when Alderaan is destroyed. It was clearly suppose to be tragic. That along with Leia's horrified expression, but again, nobody cared. As for the journey itself, if anything, it only gave them a convenient reason to save Leia.

>>87881377
>Marxist faggots control the media
Something you couldn't even hope to prove.

>everything they make is connected to their agenda.
And what agenda is that?

>>87881412
Agreed. Hosnian Prime's supposed "tragic" end was almost as bad as the Order 66's "tragic" scene. Though, at least the NR were easier to sympathize with than the Jedi Council.

>>87881412
That, and Leia acted as an emotional character for the audience to feel bad for, and therefore Alderaan was more emotionally impactful. We didn't know anyone or anything about the planet being blown up, it just happened. The only purpose it served was making the Imperials look cool.

>>87881412
Well, that and Leia's reaction sold it better than seeing a bunch of random people on Hosnian Prime freaking out. There is also the sheer fact that Alderaan was a peaceful world without weapons, as Leia tells us. It was a target of terror. Hosnian Prime, however horrific the scope of the carnage, was still the capital of the First Order's enemy and thus a legitimate military target. That is a huge order of difference. The Empire was merciless and wanted to make an example out of Alderaan. It was to prove a point and the more terrible their actions the better it served that anyone, absolutely anyone who fucked with the Empire could be the next target. Hosnian Prime could have been destroyed by anything, even conventional fleet bombardment, and sure it would be horrible, and we don't want it to happen because the bad guys are doing it and the scary and mournful music tells us so, but still a strategically acceptable target. It loses all the pathos that Alderaan's destruction gave us without ever letting us see the surface.

It also helps that by this point moviegoers are fairly well inured to massive destruction on film.

Oh and it also helps that Alec Guinness sold the quiet horror of the moment with his reaction.

>>87881486
Except Leia quickly forgets her planet immediately afterwards. And to be honest, I never felt for Leia, but that was probably Carrie's fault.

>>87881501
I had the opposite reaction. She never had time to mourn the planet during ANH. She's a princess and a rebel, she had a duty and she buried her personal feelings after it was done. What you find out of place ended up becoming one of the most lasting characteristics which carries up to modern day when Bloodline tells us Luke thinks the Force expresses itself in his sister through her willpower.

Not many people could do that. If that makes her appear like a cold hearted bitch then I'm sure she'd take that in stride too. She dealt with that very reaction in her recent mini-series but it wasn't too terribly well written.

>>87881498
The point of Hosnian's destruction was to show how fucked the galaxy is now. Without the NR, the FO has the advantage now. It's pretty much spelled out in Hux's speech.

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>>87881473
>Something you couldn't even hope to prove.
Prove is a buzzword. The forced diversity, turning characters gay for no reason in the middle of a show's season, entire shows dedicated to "comedy" that are just leftist propaganda like the Daily Show or Stephen Colbert, actors being blacklisted or fired for supporting Prop 8, and so on. The industry itself, and where it is based (San Francisco/Los Angeles), is all the proof that is needed.

>And what agenda is that?
Social engineering through propaganda. Things like "being gay is normal and anyone who disagrees is a bigot and a nazi", "criminals are just victims of bourgeois society", "the poor deserve free shit from evil rich people", "non-whites and women are oppressed", "corporations are evil and the government is there to help", and so on. Social Justice, in other words. AKA "Marxism", victimization and "empowerment" rhetoric.

>>87881536
Acting strong willed is fine but Alderaan is never mentioned at all. She doesn't have to break down in tears, but she could at least let it motivate her to keep up the good fight. This is almost like Sabine's problem. We never feel for her even though we know her mother is with the Empire. That's because she doesn't react to it whatosoever. Though her problems are far more severe than Leia's.

>>87881548
You're talking about logistical matters. We're talking about emotional reactions. How are you even confusing these two things when people are spelling it out for you in multiple posts?

Like I said, it didn't matter HOW Hosnian Prime was destroyed. It felt like they were just checking a box in their list of OT rehashing rather than some dramatic twist in the story.

Something that frankly loses the shock value since this is the third time we've had super doom lasers. Han even flat out spelled it out for you when they were going over how, "This is the Death Star. And THIS is Starkiller Base." "So it's bigger."

And no they don't get any brownie points for wiping out entire solar systems. SWCO talked about this ages ago. Starkiller is a hilariously inefficient weapon system that not only requires they kill a New Republic solar system but they also end up destroying a local sun in their own territory. Gravity shifts and rogue planets will end up playing havoc with their hyperspace lanes for generations to come. And how many enemy Star Systems can they afford to nuke anyway? It's nearly as stupid as the rumor that the Empire retook Coruscant from the New Republic and then bombed the shit out of it themselves.

>>87881588
Actually, it is mentioned. When she goes back to Yavin 4, the general tells her he'd feared she was dead when they heard about Alderaan. She insists they don't have time for sorrows.

>>87881588
This is the Empire we're talking about. It may have made more sense back when the OT first hit theaters but these days while what they did to Alderaan was horrible you should check out Lasan or Geonosis or any other world they've BDZed. Leia's grief against the Empire was something felt by everyone in the Rebellion, whether what they lost to the Empire was a family member or friend or even an entire planet.

>>87881583
>Prove is a buzzword
I'm going to present that without comment.

The funny thing about /pol/ is how melodramatic they are. It's true that Hollywood is a pretty shallow gene pool for ideas, but they make it sound like some kind of shady conspiracy, when in reality it's just a bunch of people who all believe in the same or similar shit, just like them.

>"being gay is normal and anyone who disagrees is a bigot and a nazi"
Gay people are just like you except gay, that's a fact.
> "criminals are just victims of bourgeois society"
Under certain circumstances, yes, but there are absolutely zero people out there stating that as an absolute.
> "the poor deserve free shit from evil rich people"
Nobody says this either, the rich just need to start paying their fair share in taxes.
>"corporations are evil and the government is there to help"
Nobody is saying almost any of these things you're complaining about.

>>87881662
Maybe you should stop feeding him

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This design is edgy as fuck but god damn do I love it

>>87881682
I should, I'm sorry, but it's hard when he's this fucking stupid.

>>87881687
Hey, there's good edgy and bad edgy, I'd say the super commandos are good edgy.

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>>87881583
holy crap, anon
I completely agree with you
this shit is getting even more obvious with the pass of time

>>87881733
>I completely agree with you
2nded

>>87881620
Why complain about emotional matters when Alderaan wasn't emotional either?

>>87881825
It wasn't, and yet it still manages to have more emotional impact than the Hosnian scene despite attempts to bring in the fearful faces, sad music, etc.

>>87881825
It's a bigger failure this time.

>>87881829
What sold the Alderaan scene was Sir Alec's reaction.

The dumb shits killed their best actor after a minute or two, so there was nobody to sell Alderaan 2.0.

>>87881829
>yet it still manages to have more emotional impact than the Hosnian scene despite attempts to bring in the fearful faces, sad music, etc.
this this this
Lucas is just a more potent filmmaker than JJ.

>>87881829
Not that anon and I know this might trigger some people but I actually felt more for NR's destruction. The sad music and screaming faces got to me more than Leia's reaction to Alderaan.

>>87881886
I'm almost sure Lucas had nothing to do with it. People held his hand nearly the entire time during production, remember?

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>>87881906
>The sad music and screaming faces
But why?
You didn't know those people.

We get people in this thread that say that Order 66 was a shit scene because we didn't spend hours with every Jedi in the montage.

>>87881813
>Ideology=/=conspiracy
It's neither. It's merely an echo chamber, you should be reasonably familiar with those.

>then turn them gay, and then say that if you "like" said character, you have to agree with gay marriage or the gay lifestyle
1. Why is that wrong? Yes, it is an appeal to your emotions, but how is that an immoral or incorrect thing to do?
2. How are they saying these things? How are they conveying them?

>Most TV crime drama's have many episodes dedicated to making you feel sorry for the criminal
Crime procedurals feature one bad guy per episode, who may have some difficult circumstances surrounding them (because they are indeed human, shock, and have nuance) but they are still rightfully held responsible for their actions.

>Who gets to determine what is "fair"?
The government because they run this shit and we need them.
>The rich paying far more in taxes is not "fair"
Yes it is, they have more money and own the means of production.

>>87881906
Well, that's you. It didn't do shit for me because I had no reason to care about any of them. Even the characters in the story barely care and treat the destruction and the existence of Starkiller Base more as a chore that needs to be done rather than something that desperately needs to be destroyed.

>>87881923
Stop taking the bait, you retard

>>87881923
>Corporations or the US government
Both examples of people with a great amount of power. People with power abusing that power make good villains, this isn't a new thing or a halfway unusual idea, and it has no agenda either.

>(almost always a Republican)
Heh, someone's projecting.

>are almost always the "villain" in most movies and TV shows
BECAUSE THE EMPIRE DINDU NUFFIN AMIRITE

>>87881923
Here's an idea: stop giving the blatant trolls what they want. You're just helping them drag down the thread and throw it even further off topic.

>>87879535

Mother of burgers, white supremacist revisionism starwars, and all the other recent news isn't telling a good story for the brand but someone is claiming the Rogue One is polling strong.

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Remember

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>>87881914
>I'm almost sure Lucas had nothing to do with it.
Here's an example of Lucas's subtle knowledge of the art of film.
Obi-Wan is way farther forward in the frame than common filmmaking wisdom dictates.
Lucas does this to create a sense of hunger in the viewer's mind as their eye is not used to subliminally searching for the focus of the frame.

Compare that to Han's revelation scene aboard the Falcon in TFA.
Standard shot placement.
JJ copies the story, but with none of the art.

>People held his hand nearly the entire time during production
Lies.

>>87881967
>Mother of burgers, white supremacist revisionism starwars

Please explain.

>>87882014
/tv/ meme based on a guy tweeting something that was later corrected. The only reason anyone even brings it up anymore is specifically to shitpost.

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>>87881993
figure 2
<----------
Absolutely boring framing.

Oh, also plenty of CG shit on screen because JJ is committed to practical effects.

>>87882014

Got joke since they hate Targs and she was gaining weight when she is supposed to be in desert.

The writer for Rogue One is one of those brexit knock off liberals hijacking starwars to fit his leftist narrative.

>>87882032

It was 'changed' because the people it pissed off went and showed Disney what the asshat was doing and they pulled on his leash, don't act like it was an innocent mistake nor simply shitposting.

>>87881979
I think people have decided they like taking the bait. That or the baiters are replying to themselves to make it seem like their bait is being taken.

>>87881993
Of course, Lucas was one of Hollywood's Young Turks like Coppola, Spielberg, and Milius.

Too bad prequel Lucas is all that people remember now and he's basically kicked out of his own house.

>>87882014

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rogue-one-is-a-political-allegory-tease-writers-946638

>>87882054
It was corrected because it was already canonically wrong. Not everything is some conspiracy to destroy the white man or whatever you think it was.

>>87882036
>>87882065
Didn't Lucas base Palpatine on Nixon?

>>87882014

https://twitter.com/chrisweitz?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

check all of his tweets from Nov 14, he caved.

>>87882060
I wish the mods would at least do their job and mop up the /pol/ leakage.

>>87882090
Yes, and by the time he did Episodes 2 and 3 he threw in some Bush comparisons as well. Political allegory in Star Wars is nothing new.

>>87882080

No it wasn't changed for that and canonical doesn't mean shit when you're trying to make a political statement.

The pin thing is a leftist thing from UK that people over here adopted as 'silent protest' he tried to force his politics onto starwars and whip got cracked on him because the people it annoyed went and showed his bosses what he was doing.

That is why he 'apologized' stop obfuscating and lying like it wasn't on purpose.

>>87881993
You mean a splinter in their mind's eye?

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>>87882061
>Too bad prequel Lucas
...was still a master of visual storytelling.
Cutting from Anakin's gift to Padme to the birth of the Empire is just genius.

ROTS is a masterwork.

>>87882117
top jej
I have that book on my shelf but I still haven't read it.

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posting best (capital) ship
>has guns
>has speed
>has hangar space
>can easily be retrofitted for any purpose
is there anything it cant do? other than broadsides, all its guns face directly in front of it

>>87882127
I'd rather have had more flawed works from a genius than safe, boring, still flawed works from apes.

>>87879576
You're a bit harsh. The episodes are (will be) fine at least, even if they feel like a soft reboot.
The cartoon is fine.
Comics and books. Eh, I dunno. Maul and Kanan were fine. The rest looks meh.

>>87882140
Nebulon B always messes with my head because no matter how many times I have to remind myself, I always assume the front is the back and the back is the front.

>>87882159

Chuck Wendig.

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>>87882140
That takes the crown, but the Venator is a close second.

>>87882140
>other than broadsides, all its guns face directly in front of it
It's fucking useless
Space is water

>>87882209
explain fighter craft?

>>87881918
Simply because they were innocent people. The difference was that there were unsuspecting civies in Hosnian Prime who died an undeserved death. During Order 66, I've seen various reasons why it didn't work, but for me, it was simply because I didn't like the Jedi for driving Anakin mad. Hell, the only sadness I felt during Order 66 was watching the clones go bad, because they were my heroes. But that's me I guess. I guess if you think about it a little more, NR's destruction isn't emotional at all, but reacting negatively to people screaming as they are about to die was just a natural reaction of mine.

>>87882220
Subs

>>87882216
>the tyranny of governmental busybodies and bureaucratic manipulators
I know I shouldn't be replying to transparent b8, but do you look at firetrucks rushing through traffic to go put out a fire and think, "Fucking governmental oppressors, who needs em"

>>87882224
>why it didn't work
But it did work.

>>87882209
by not doing broadsides, you can punish the enemy for crossing the T, since you will have a smaller profile than they do

>>87882264
>I know I shouldn't be replying to transparent b8
Then don't.

>>87882270
I made an exception because that line made me laugh.

>>87881993
Pretty sure Lucas had nothing to do with that camera shot either. You're running on nothing but assumptions.
>Lies
Well this is me now declaring my assunptions but it's clear he had his hands held by others back then when you watch how the prequels turned out. He had full control over those and nearly every single character conversation scene has the same static and boring camera shots. Even fat fuck Plinkett points this out. This was especially a problem in ROTS.

>>87882267
No it didn't, anon. Williams' music did much more than the movie itself.

>>87879576
It has no heart and soul and is being pumped out just to earn Disney gold.

Lucas has his shortcomings, but everything he did was a labor of love. Too bad the rest of the world didn't agree.

>>87882316
>rest of the world didn't agree.
thats actually pretty significant

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>>87882287
>Pretty sure Lucas had nothing to do with that camera shot either.
fuck off dumbass
Directors block the scenes. It's literally their job.
>Plinkett
Daily reminder that Mike thinks Independence Day 2 is not only good, but better than the first one.

>anon on 4chan was on the set of ANH

>>87882307
>No it didn't
Yes, it did.
Yoda's cane falling is a powerful moment.

I can't wait till your generation dies off.

>>87882334
personally, my favorite scene is
>father, we have to save you
>you already have

>>87882334
Yoda's cane didn't do shit for me because I didn't like Yoda either. None of the Jedi were likable apart from Anakin and Obi-Wan. Mace had that shit coming after distrusting Anakin and manipulating him into spying on Sheev. The Jedi were scum that deserved what they got.

>>87882264
>but do you look at firetrucks rushing through traffic to go put out a fire and think
Nice strawman, retard. If you think THAT is what the "government" is all about, then you really are a fucking ignoramus. The government is about control and oppression, not free shit for hippies and "art students" like you. The government needs to be returned to being Constitutionally restricted and severely limited.

Oh, and, by the way, the federal government doesn't control fire departments, moron.

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>>87882404
b8

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What is going on in this thread?

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>>87882439
Nothing, why do you ask?

>>87880484
SHE'S SO BAD

>>87882287
>Well this is me now declaring my assunptions but it's clear he had his hands held by others back then when you watch how the prequels turned out.

Prequels turned out passable to fine.

NONE of the people who, according to you, held Lucas' had, ever managed to create anything remotely approaching AotC, the weakest of the prequels. The absolute best thing any of them can claim to their credit is blatantly plagiarizing the work they did together with Lucas.

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>>87882453
Oh, that pose is lewd anon.

Can we post more lewd?

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>>87882524
I don't see why not.

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>>87882555
Alrighty then.

/swco/, you ever wanted to learn Huttese? http://galacticlexicon.com/Huttese-Grammar.php

>>87882357
>I didn't like Yoda either
Sounds like a personal problem.
Yoda was clearly a kind and compassionate person.
Look no further for proof than the youngling training scene in AOTC.

>>87882177
did the venator ever appear?

>>87882774
???

>>87882486
>NONE of the people who, according to you, held Lucas' had, ever managed to create anything remotely approaching AotC
This.
Just look at the rest of Irvin Kershner's filmography.

>Robocop 2
I'm sure he was why ESB was good.
>not

>>87880068
>What I'd honestly rather have them fix is in Episode VIII Leia has to step up and try to fill the void left by the loss of the Senate and Chancellor so they dump the whole Resistance bullshit in favor of her working to pull together the New Republic and keep it from fragmenting and get them back into fighting shape to resist the First Order. Fuck being a rebel again and that whole "what I was best at" fuckery. Giving people hope and a fighting chance was always what she and the others were best at.
This

>>87881324
>the last day of the Republic
>not the last day of the last Republic

Could have been a 10/10 but they hit too short of the mark

Describe your genitals with a Star Wars quote.

>>87884969
There's always a bigger fish.

>>87884969
Judge me by my size do you?

>>87884969
That... is why you fail.

>>87884969
Cold, sir.

>>87884969
A ship.

>>87884969
A cup.

Guys, my friend told me I should try watching Rebels.

I watched half the first episode before wanting the Stormtroopers to murder every named character. He claims it gets better, but I want to know how better.

>>87884969
A speeder.

>>87884969
>R2, do you is fucking?
am I doing it right?

>>87885153
It doesn't really get better.
There are a few GREAT episodes, but it's mostly mediocre.

But actually liked the pilot a lot so idk.

>>87885050
jej

>>87884969
We are for the big

>>87884969
Look at the size of that thing!

>>87885153
it gets kind of better, but yeah, not much. Just search for some highlits on YT and you're set.

>>87884969
They are still coming through!

That's... why i'm here.

What if he doesn't survive?

I'd hoped you would be pleased.

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post your shipfus

>>87885153
Is this your first SW cartoon?

Rebels's not worse than TCW's first two seasons. If you survived those, you can survive somewhat lighter tone and downgrade. And it gets better in season two.

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>>87885396
I have many fond memories of annihilating Rebel Scum with her aid

>>87885153
You should start with Clone Wars if you haven't seen that yet. You'll appreciate Rebels more.

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>>87885396

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What are the odds that he will show up in Rebels?

>>87885551

Pretty decent chances, I'd say. We're still like two years from the events of ANH and R1. Two seasons is plenty of opportunity for Saw to show up and even be reoccurring character.

Though personally, I want Sloane to show up and be the series' regular antagonist. Show her getting some actual good wins against the rebels, thus her promotion to admiral by the time of Endor.

>>87880031
Show me on the dummy where the feminazi fisted you, Anon.

>>87885399
>>87885468
I enjoyed the first seasons of TCW, remarkably.

I managed to enjoy fewer and fewer episodes as it progressed, remarkably, probably because my taste got less shit.

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>>87885458
>Those curves

>>87882140
That's what I'd call an offensive weapon layout and it's not a bad thing, though the wedge does a better job of it.

>>87882426
>implying improper Master-Palawan relations
Sorry. No. These guys fucked up so much there wasn't time for more fucking up. Also, sullying MacGregor with proximity to Christensen.

>>87884969
It's a trap!

>>87884969
Come here, my little friend. Don't be afraid.

>>87885681
Reservation, if the Nebulon-B carries disproportionately heavy weapons in limited traverse or fixed mounts it's all good. No idea if it does though. Anon?

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When you first saw Revenge of the Sith, what did you picture Plagueis looking like?

>>87884969
You're lucky you don't taste very good.

To this day, I still don't know why they changed that line. Not angry, just confused.

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>>87885998
Old and skinny.

>>87885998
Not a muun

>>87885998
Oddly enough, a bit like Christopher Lee.

>>87885998
Kinda like Sheev in Episode 1. Unravaged by time and the dark side.

>>87885998
The first time I saw ROTS, I didn't get that Sheev was saying that it was HIS master.

Granted I was 7 at the time, but still.

>>87885492
this. The U-Wing is my new shipfu

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>>87885998

Some Lucasfilm Internships in San Francisco
https://jobs.disneycareers.com/search-jobs/Lucasfilm%20Internship/San%20Francisco%2C%20CA/391-5733-5732/1/4/6252001-5332921-5391997-5391959/37x77493/-122x419418/50/2

>>87885998

Some Sith like the Old Republic depicted them

>>87885998
I'm sad to say my first impression was that he was Palpatine

I was young and my brain was shit.

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>>87886248
>AAAAAYYYYYYYYY LMAO MIDICHLORIANS DUDE

>>87886248
>all these different concepts
>not one Muun
kek


>>87885998
pictured him as a human, i still do now
Always thought Plagueis being a Muun was retarded

>>87886407
>Always thought Plagueis being a Muun was retarded
Why?

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>>87886407

I like to think Plagueis was something near-human. I've always been intruiged behind the idea that the villain is something approachable and unassuming. Like how Sidious/Sheev had that kind grand/dad angle going as opposed to Maul being literally Satan and Vader being a giant emotionless kill-machine.

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>>87886573
Something near-human eh?

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>>87886248
Fifth on the bottom row looks like Dan Avidan.

>>87886616

He's kind of a fucking giant though. Hardly approachable or unthreatening. And what does he have to do with a dead Sith Lord?

>>87886616
I'm genuinely hoping it doesn't turn out to be the case. More instances of things we can see a mile away are only going to hurt things in the long run.

What the series needs is another big twist that nobody sees coming, yet doesn't come off as another asspull.

>>87881583
>>87881733
>>87881811
Samefag

>>87886671
as is?

>>87886407
I wonder how pissed people would be if they made canon Plagueis human. Has the canon ever deviated that far from the EU before?

>>87882111
The birth of the Galactic Empire is a reference to both the birth of the Roman Empire and the birth of the Third Reich.

And it was still more subtle than Hux's Neo-Nazi speech

>>87886707
I imagine not since the establishment of the Prequel Trilogy

>>87880941
Kathleen Kennedy's on the record for having a 'diversity agenda' tho

>>87882773
I love that scene. It's my favorite in the movie.

>>87886707
In character design, no. Story changed more here and there. If they do retell the story of Darth Plagueis i would expect them to keep him a Muun but change his story a little bit

>>87886671
It only goes 1 of 2 ways

A: He is the Darth Plagueis which would be a twist to the plebs

B: Wizard of OZ situation where the master is actually powerless except for his mastery in manipulation.

Im leaning on the OZ route.

>>87887293
>>87886700
I'm having trouble thinking of any particularly good examples. Snoke/Plagueis seems likely, but I can't help but feel we'll be going down one of these paths:

-Finn or Rey goes rogue
-Luke and/or Leia are killed
-They steal a page from PotC and have Ren join the group as an untrustworthy ally against a bigger threat.

Considering the next film to be ripped off is Empire, they're gonna have to try to make an innovative twist, or else they wind up making a film on as same polarizing degree as AotC was when it first came out.

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>>87886677
yeah, no

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>>87887293
>>87887682
>Implying Snoke isn't Gallius Rax
No one will get it, but it's for the best

>>87887818
You now have me curious.

Time to do some research on my end.

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>>87883633
>Robocop 2
>Not good.
Retard.

>>87887751
Cool photoshop, fag.

>>87886693
Here's your phoneposter
>>87887751

>>87888005
The test runs from the proto-robert cops still make me laugh, especially the screaming skeleton

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>>87886677
Yeah, no.

>>87881262
>>87881290
>>87881313
Did they also play this on the background during that scene?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zk6eXvCiuo

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>>87888093
>>87887751
>this desperation

>>87888049
The action scenes were also top notch, and the villain was legitimately scary looking and unpredictable.

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>>87888123
Wow, sport, you're like Khan Noonien Singh, you keep missing the target!

>>87886616
>Even other movies are titans
Shingeki no kyojin has gotten out of hand!

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>>87888158
Don't worry, I believe you.

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>>87882140
>is there anything it cant do?

Survive.

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>>87888168
So Snoke found the location of Nute's Neimodian cartoon stash which granted him power? All that remains is the porn stash

>>87888012
>photoshop
>on my phone
HAHAHAHAA
oh wow

>>87888030
thanks

This thread is cancer. Should I dump the newest Star Wars here?

>>87884969

>If you only knew the power of the dark side

>>87888451
don't like it - close the tab and go away

>>87884969
It's working! It's working!

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/11/23/rogue-one-composer-michael-giacchino-music-star-wars-standalone

tl;dr: Score was done in four and a half weeks, is 95% original and 5% Williams inspired, heavy on the timpani.

>>87888451
Do you have the final Han Solo issue? If possible could you storytime that?

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>>87884969
"Size matters not. Look at me. Judge me by my size, do you? Hmmm?"

>>87888508
Don't worry, viagra ain't expensive.

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>>87888561
It is too late for me, son.

>>87884969
>it surrounds us, and penetrates us

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>>87884969
>I AM YOUR FATHER!!!!

>>87888451
YES, LET THESE FUCKS SEE THE GREATNESS THAT IS KREEL

Kreel is my waifu

>>87888537
>Score was done in four and a half weeks
is this a bad thing?

>>87888470
Well, now I won't. Thanks, cunt.

>>87888757
Yes.

>>87888537
>giacchino
Isn't he the guy who reuses his own tunes in every soundtrack he makes?

>>87888820
Yes.
Dr. Strange had the Star Trek 2009 theme.

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Here's another interesting Force Arena tidbit. Apparently it was originally named "Battlegrounds". Remind you of anything?

>>87884969
UNLIMITED POWER!!!!!!!!

>>87885551
Could R1 not get Whitaker colored contacts or something?

>>87889054
The only time eye color matters in SW is when focusing on someone going in and out of Sith mode with yellow.

>>87888820
yeah but those Medal of Honor soundtracks though. Sweet shit

>>87885551
that guy was in TCW? wow

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>>87886647
He's not actually giant. I mean, he's still tall(7 feet) but not THAT tall.

>>87889143
Where have you been for the last five months?

>>87889207
not in these threads

>>87885551
What's the point in bringing this character to the movie? Couldn't he just be some other black guy?

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Esb > anh > tfa
>>
rotj > rots
>>
aotc
>>
tpm
>>
holiday special

>>>

tcw theatrical

>>87889422
Not this shit again.

>>87885617
If so, will Rebels show Saw lose more and more of his body. Or will he have to have a novel/comic show him becoming less human and more worn-down?

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>>87885396
More of a shipbando

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>>87889432
It will be shitposting without end

>>87889363
They wanted a veteran rebel soldier to mentor Jyn, wanted a black character, and wanted to bolster the "connected universe" thing by showing that stuff from the cartoons can appear in the movies. Saw fits all of those.

>>87882127
>>87882334
I want prequel babbies to kill themselves

>>87885399
SWR is festering shit that couldn't compete with early TCW.

>>87885153
>I watched half the first episode before wanting the Stormtroopers to murder every named character

Chopper is the only good role in SWR, watch the 1 or 2 Chopper episodes and forget the rest.

>>87889422
meme

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>>87889552
>I want prequel babbies to kill themselves
I want *you* to kill yourself, old man.

>>87889363
Personally, I'm glad that the Onderon arc from TCW got callbacks in Rebels' The Last Battle and R1.
>Kalani teaming up with Saw in a later season of Rebels
>Blames the droid for his sister's death
>Kalani does some logical explanation
>Rage intensifies

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>>87885396
Star Destroyers. Any and all.

>>87889618
Imperial version of Clone War cruisers are the sexiest

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>>87889422
>>87889432
>>87889513
>>87889556
Mfw

>>87889552
Rewatch early tcw its shit mate

>>87889363
To connect TCW, the Erso family, probably Rebels and Saw all together with the GCW.

Saw helps Galen, Lyra and Jyn find a new home to escape Krennic (the planet seen in the trailers for R1). Saw's group was responsible for fucking up Agent Kallus back before Rebels starts, we have the droid enemy from the Onderon arc back in Rebels. Mentions of Saw being a terrible menace that even Mothma didn't want to deal with against the Empire, etc.

>>87889697
I agree.

>>87881811
Hail victory, brother.

>>87889754
And yet it still manages to outclass all three current seasons of SWR.

>>87881662
>Gay people are just like you except gay, that's a fact.
Allow me to ftfy
>Gay people are just like you

>>87889809
nope

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>>87889697
They are

>>87885492
You will never replace the Cheyenne in my heart but there is room for you too.

>>87881377
>Marxist faggots control the media
I really liked that marxist film TDKR

>>87888537
>four and a half weeks
Ooooh boooyyy we sure are in for a real memorable soundtrack!

At least the visuals will be good.

>>87889185
Know who else is 7 feet tall, grey-skinned, a non-sith darksider old enough to have seen the rise and fall of the empire, has intimate knowledge of Anakin Skywalker, and has a similar speaking cadence to Snoke?

The Son

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"TK-421, why aren't you at your post? TK-421, do you copy?"

RIP

http://www.baka.com.au/entertainment/movies/peter-sumner-australias-link-to-the-original-star-wars-dies-at-74-20161123-gsvfxp.html

>>87889830
Let me explain how this argument works so you understand, kiddo.

SWR manages to be more shit after 3 shit quality seasons, therefore making TCW less shitty.

>>87889973
can you expain this?
*unzips dick*

>>87889845
I just hope R1 Tarkin looks better than this.

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I just re-watched AOTC.
I STILL don't get the memes.
It's a good movie.
The vibe is so great.
I want to live in the temple.

>>87890022
That Tarkin was great casting though.
When are people going to give up the 'prequels=everything bad' ghost?

>>87890065
That looks like garbage you hopeless fool

>>87890065
The only thing that picture does for me is make me want to live in the temple.

In aayla's quarters.

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>>87890088
Dated effects don't make a movie bad.

>>87890084
Pointless cameo & looks like a caricature

Its time to stop

>>87885998
Didn't really have a design in mind at the time. Didn't have enough art experience to really envisioon a plague.

Now I think one of those plague doctors would look good.

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>>87890022
Why wouldn't he? R1 Tarkin is a CGI recreation of Peter Cushing in ANH.

RotS Tarkin is someone with make-up on that isn't designed for close-ups and looks fine from further away.

>>87890109
It doesnt look like a nice place to live

>that fucking walmart blue carpet

>>87890065
Is that toshiro mifune-looking statue actually levitating the ball in its hand?

>>87890112
>Pointless cameo
not really
Tarkin is an imperial officer.
They are on a Star Destroyer.

>& looks like a caricature
Have you seen Peter Cushing or his TCW model?

>>87890138
That statue is a mary sue

>>87890119
>CGI recreation of Peter Cushing

>tfw if they did this instead of make up in ROTS Peope would still bitch

Prequel haters are braindead.

>>87890145
>Have you seen Peter Cushing or his TCW model?
Nope never

>>87890133
>>that fucking walmart blue carpet

>implying blue suede isn't aesthetically pleasing

>>87885998
Oddly enough, I envisioned him as a withered and frail/crooked humanoid very much like our current Snoke

>>87890177
>Prequel haters are braindead.
Or you could not have him in that dumb scene or find an actor that looks like young cushing considering no actual acting is involved

Denial is always so strong in these threads, its like /pol/

>>87890237
>Denial
Of what?
There's no reason NOT To have him.

Would you rather that he wasn't in TCW also?

>>87890065
who polishes and vacuums that shit every day?

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This looks good to me.
Apparently i'm supposed to hate it.

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>>87890294
Doesn't look any more caricatured than the man himself imo.

>>87890262
you're mother

>>87890256
Denial of prequels being considered bad films by most people (popularity among children and mexicans doesnt count for anything.) Liking them is akin to being a brony

The reasons not to have him are

1. 0 (zero) reasons TO have him, it adds nothing
2. He looks goofy af

>>87890294
monster mash tier

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>>87890347
>it adds nothing
Seeing young Tarkin is pretty cool.
I'd rather have him than not have him.

>Liking them is akin to being a brony
Oh, you're trolling.

>>87890369
looks exactly like the man himself though
>>87890322

>>87890347
>>87890256
Don't like the prequels very much and I agree Tarkin doesn't look great, but the Death Star is pretty much his pet project and the emperor and Vader are checking on the Death Star's progress so... it actually makes a lot of sense for him to be there.

>>87889363
Lucas always intended on making Saw a part of the DS plans theft. He was originally going to be in the live action Underworld show until Lucas decided to show his origin story in TCW before he started making Underworld. Obviously Underworld never got made but they adapted the Death Star plans arc of the show into Rogue One.

>>87890430
>and I agree Tarkin doesn't look great
look at these two images
>>87890294
>>87890322
Cushing's face IS a caricature.
The ROTS make up is hardly exaggerated at all.

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>>87890237
>>87890347
Please stop posting.

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>>87890237
>its like /pol/

>phoneposter admits he's from /pol/

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>>87890391
>55
>>87890405
Looks like a halloween costume

>>87890508
see
>>87890466

Just admit that you're shitposting.

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>>87881290

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Where were you when you heard that Darth Revan was finally canon again?

>>87890430
I thought it was the bug peoples' then krennic's then tarkin's
>>87890466
Youre blind
>>87890469
Ok sure
>>87890487
>this place is hell
>wew lad you admitted youre from hell
Prequeltards everyone

>>87890647
In Bizarro World

>>87890545
Im literally not its a common complaint rots tarkin looks like ass outside this hugbox

I'm convinced that the "PREQUELS DID LITERALLY NOTHING WRONG!" people are the same shitposters who scream "PREQUELS WERE PURE SHIT" pretending to be the "opponent" for the same of continuing the argument.

>>87885551
just looked it up and he actually is, holy shit I thought people were just saying that for the keks

>>87890752
>I'm convinced
Show me some evidence.

>>87890347
Yeah he served no purpose other than to connect both trilogies. But it feels kind of desparate.

>>87890752
Don't underestimate the power of the mentally incompetent.

They seem to be really up in arms since last nights crackdown on generals