Moana

the trailers make it look terrible

I was uninterested of the film at first similarly to BHS and Zootopia.

But then I heard the villain song and now I'm gonna watch it day one holy shit.

>>87874165
>musicalfags
not even once

>>87874208
It's some good shit nigga.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQzAi-a9Bv8
Jemaine makes a damn good Bowie impression.

>>87873559
I'm a sucker for The Rock, and from what I've seen he's just gonna be hamming it up as Islander Hercules in this movie, so I'm looking forward to it. The water effects look really pretty too, hoping they have some good visual jokes with the ocean spirit thing.

Great songs, easily in the Top 5 disney animation soundtracks.

Dwayne Johnson as a vainglorious demigod is a joy to watch.

The chicken... oh my god, the chicken. They haven't shown too much of the chicken in the trailers but we're all going to be talking about the chicken next week.

The water effects are spectacular. Doing water in 3D is notoriously difficult but Disney really raised the bar here. You'll want to watch the movie again just to pay attention to the water effects.

The villain is Disney's version of Dr Frank-n-Furter. Its going to be fun watching people claiming the movie is black culture vs homosexuality.

How much money you'd think Moana is going to make in opening day? The first week? The second week? International release?

>>87874208

why the fuck are you in a animated disney musical thread?

>>87874165
>>87874330
>>87874334
This villain is a fucking ridiculous looking hermit crab with goofy as fuck teeth

Ruined

>>87874864
He's the midboss. The final boss is a lava goddess.

>>87874894
Is she hot? Like, in the sex way

>>87874948
Are you trying to say you wouldn't try to fuck an animated mound of lava?

>>87875006
I would fuck her so hard my dick would turn into a six-inch-high Darth Vader

Just got back from seeing it. Very fun. Great songs--none of them felt useless or out of place--and a solid cast, although you can tell that they rehauled the chicken at the last moment. He's such a dumb shit and I love him though.

I do wish that they had put more emphasis on the relationship between Maui and humans or focused a bit more on his backstory before Shiny, since the lyrics in Shiny ('far from the ones who abandoned you/chasing the love of these humans') weren't as poignant when you didn't quite know what Tamatoa meant by that.

I know it's kind of cliche to say but damn, that animation was stunning. The ocean looks like you could actually jump in and swim, and I wasn't even watching it in 3D. The animation in 2 sequences (the "I Am Moana" song and the end where Moana asks the ocean to allow Te Ka to approach her and she walks to meet her was so, so well done and moving.

There's a scene at the very end of the credits. If you don't feel like waiting, it's Tamatoa still on his back from the end of the battle, wiggling around. He halfheartedly sings "Shiny, I'm so shiny..." then says "then why am I still on my back? I bet if I was red and had a Jamaican accent, you'd help me up! Wouldn't you! Wouldn't you?! Ugh...." then flops back down

>>87874864
You have terrible taste.

Do I see this or trolls?

>>87874334
Did you see it early too? I skipped class for it.

>>87875471
>skipping class

what would Walt say

Just sat down for the movie early showing. What am I in for?

>>87875560
Fun music, great animation, some laughs, some tears, and a giant glittery crab singing a David Bowie inspired number.

>>87874332
>I'm a sucker for The Rock, and from what I've seen he's just gonna be hamming it up as Islander Hercules in this movie, so I'm looking forward to it

He does and it's great. He even does the pec dance.

Watching right now. Water is amazing. Moana baby tits.

>>87873559
I'm genuinely excited to see this movie. Gonna try and find a passable torrent for my saturday thanksgiving dinner.

>>87876390
Get off your damn phone or whatever and watch the movie.

>>87876396
I can see it working. Hell they managed to do fucking Pirates of the Caribbean

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>>87876396
>MFW the Island Sora, Riku, and Kairi were on at the beginning of Kingdom Hearts is the Moana World

I've seen no ads for this movie on TV. What the hell is going on?

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>>87876478
I think you forgot to turn on your TV.

>>87876396
>KH3 Motu Nui world with Wind Waker-style sailing

>>87876396
>land on Maui and Moana's boat in the middle of their quest
>help them sail through seas filled with heartless while Maui sings about how great he is
My fucking dick
Not that they could get the Rock

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>Moana tries to tell everyone that they need to sail farther away to survive because of the evil rotting
>Moana stops the evil rotting
>Everyone gladly goes back to exploring the ocean even though they don't have to any more

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>>87874864
>implying coconut crabs are hermit crabs

leave now

>>87873559
>her own identity
Soooo... she's a trannie or a dyke or something?

I like that they actually did a good job with the goofy animal sidekick instead of making him an annoying character who ruins every scene he's in. Hei Hei is pointless, but funny.

>>87874864
>he doesn't like SHINING
https://youtu.be/dQzAi-a9Bv8

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>>87874864
>implying tamatoa isn't GOAT

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How was the short?

>>87877220
>average 4chan user talks to a girl

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>>87874325
Glorious

>>87876797
The original plan for him would have been so annoying.

>The character Heihei was sort of this big macho character with attitude. He was kind of like the watchdog for Moana’s father, the chief, always keeping an eye on the young woman. He was also very judgmental, often being mean to Moana for no real reason.

>>87877220
Too similar in concept to Inside Out.

The trailer made it looks annoyingly modern
Like they kept trying to shove in fad jokes all over the place

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>>87877220

>>87875258
See this first or with friends and family.

Trolls is more of a movie you would see on your own during matinee time.

>>87877220
It was cute, if a bit confusing animation-wise at times. I like that the message wasn't "office/tedious jobs are horrible and soulless" but that you could do your best to keep yourself from being crushed by the job by taking part in life as a whole

>>87877320
What is "that's every Disney trailer since Tangled" for $400?

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>>87874325
Jesus Christ

>>87877400
Yeah and they all a shits

>>87877419
Trailers? Yes. Movies? No.

>>87877440
Well what are these "Good" movies since Frozen?

>>87877446
Are you high?

Big Hero Six, Zootopia, now Moana.

>>87877594
BHS was pretty sloppily made
Like the whole daughter thing brought in at the last second for motivation?

And Zootopia was a little bit too on the nose with the racial metaphors

>>87876652
Just saw it. It's more like
everyone stopped exploring in the first place because of the rotting (aka the "darkness")
Moana stops the evil rotting
Now they can explore again because the thing stopping them is gone

>>87877732
Yep, you got it.

Where was the pig? I thought that pig was a main sidekick character. He was in the movie less than Phillipe the horse was in Beauty and the Beast.

I don't even like animal sidekick characters, I'm just confused why that pig is even in so much marketing when they didn't bother to put it in the main bulk of the movie.

After finally seeing the movie, I'm glad they replaced "More" and its reprise with How Far I'll Go. They're still really great (especially the reprise, jesus) but I don't think they would have worked as well in the film itself.

>>87877910
Because the pig is a cute marketable toy

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>>87874325

Motherfucker.
This one actually made me laugh.

>>87877910
>I'm just confused why that pig is even in so much marketing

Because he's cute, and kids like cute. And kids ask their parents to buy merchandise and see movies.

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Did they?

>>87877964
If I were a kid I would not even remember there was a pig in that movie, he was used so little.

>>87877910
Is the chicken as obnoxious as the trailers make it seem?

Also, I thought Polynesians ate food dogs

>>87876400
Why not go see it in a theater instead?

>>87877995
That doesn't matter with marketing.

>>87877997
No. He creates some good laughs. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>87877997
The chicken is "turkey drowning itself in the rain" levels of retarded and that is played up for laughs. Make of that what you will.

>>87874325
It's a loss edit, isn't it?

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>>87877973
I doubt she would still be walking if they did

Movie was pretty good

nothing was really out of place, it was all really fluid and flowed along at a nice fast pace

the only real flaw was Dwayne/Maui being such a little bitch at times, it got distracting

>>87874325
There actually is a "the fourth panel of loss" scene on Maui's back

Well that was a surprise.

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>>87877973
No.

But I would bet Maui has had sex with humans before.

>>87876430
The Pirates of the Caribbean world in Kingdom Hearts was fucking grotesque.

Fun fact: In the actual mythology, Maui died trying to give humans immortality. He planned to do this by turning into a worm and crawling into a goddess's vagina and out of her mouth. His plan was ruined when a bird saw him go into her vagina and laughed. The goddess woke up, shut her legs, and cut Maui in two with her obsidian vaginal teeth.

I assume this scene was cut from the movie and will be available on the blu ray.

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>>87874325
Fucking Christ

>>87878055
its funny because the writers literally tried to make it the dumbest character in all of Disney

Just got out of the movie. It was fucking great.

>>87877220
I really liked it. Better than inside out in just the 5 minutes.

>>87878202
What was the bird that laughed?
Because Polynesians should have had made it extinct

>>87878202
Actually it seems a version of this myth is told in the very first scene. Just instead of "immortality" specifically, the prize is a "secret of life" talisman thing known as the goddess's heart, there's no mention of a vagina, and Maui actually succeeds and gets out safely, which is where the trouble concerning the main conflict of the movie begins.

>>87878126
Reminder he died from putting his head inside a Goddess's vagina.

>>87878202
>>87878442
Myths didn't fuck around in the old days

>>87878126
but what about Mini Maui

>>87878442
does that top turning into a swan to fuck a queen?

>>87878126
For sure

>I know it's a lot, the hair, THE BOD

>>87878467
Depends what kind of tattoo Maui has on his dick.

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>>87878474
I'm pretty sure Zeus peaked when he turned into a golden shower to impregnate a woman locked in a cage

>mfw girl i like it part polynesian
>her moms name was moana
>she really wants to see this movie


Looks like I'm seeing it soon, senpai.

Hey it's okay it's okay we're dead soon

>Lin-Manuel Miranda and Dwayne "the Rock" Johnson unveiled their new project, 'Millennials: The Musical' in a hilarious new mockumentary.
>Millennials: The Musical will premiere on Johnson's YouTube channel November 29th.


Our Demigod seems to get along very well with Alexander Hamilton after Moana, we might get some new stuff.
Just you wait. Just you wait.

I can't get over how beautiful the scene where she crosses the ocean and gives back the heart was. Good form, Disney. Good form.

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>>87878861
Broke ass millennials
We are some broke ass millennials
And there's a million things we can't afford
But just you wait
just you wait

Consider the coconut

>>87873559
>mfw in my country they changed the name from Moana to Ocenaia because Moana was a famous pornostar

>>87879396
the WHAT

>>87879441
Italy, right? It's going to be called Vaiana (with her name changed, too) in most of Europe because because Moana is trademarked in Spain by some perfume company.

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>>87877220

>>87875077
>I do wish that they had put more emphasis on the relationship between Maui and humans or focused a bit more on his backstory before Shiny,

Same. I thought they were going to delve into it since Maui is the reasons that humans can even thrive because he stole the fire for warmth, lassoed the sun, etc, but I guess that would have diverted things too much from Moana's story.

>>87877973
>the weak should fear the strong

>>87874334

reddit pls

>have to work a shitty retail job all of Thanksgiving weekend

I guess I'll have to wait another week to see it...

>>87873600
>>87873559
Do you think Disney regrets making this movie after the gorillions of dollars they made from Frozen and its cast of pretty white princesses?

>>87879532
After all Disney is a Pro-Female corporation. They reek Estrogen fueled Gynocentrism. Honestly, will pirate this movie just for Maui. Moana herself? Easily the least interesting part of the whole damn thing.

Oh a woman must find her identity? What a shitty uninspired cliche. Just as overdone as Rebellious Princess who fights back against tradition. Women aren't interesting and much less are they interesting when they're written as Men with Tits meaning the writers pretend that women have depth to their natures.

If women were written realistically most women would bitch to the point the country will go deaf and most beta males would kill themselves.

>>87879632
>Nice Guy: The Comment

>>87879632
Who hurt you?

>>87879642
It's called reality and Disney makes propaganda lies. Then again people are soooo well indoctrinated that they believe Female Characters being portrayed and celebrated as everything women have never been is perfectly normal. It's never considered SJW bullshit propaganda crap.

Nice going beta simp sheeple.

>>87879693
Consider the following: the coconut

>>87879030
Both scenes with manta ray grandma appearing were cool as fuck

>>87879538
I'm really surprised they went with the rooster over the pig for animal sidekick.

>>87879693

Go back to /pol/

>>87879583
Don't worry, they're making Frozen 2 to fill that gap.

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So, uh, can we skip like 20 days worth of threads and get to the point where we're pairing Moana with other princesses?

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The trailers looked really bad. I was seriously cringing in the theatre. I can't think of any reason beyond pretty water animation and cool lava monster to go see this.

>>87879868
>pretty water animation
that's actually a main selling point for me desu

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Well come to think of it I gotta go,
Hey, it’s okay to say "you’re welcome"
'Cause I’m gonna need that boat
I’m sailing away, away you’re welcome
'Cause Maui can do anything but float

So the plot is that Maui somehow pissed off the ocean and as a result can't swim in it, which is why he needs a boat to get off the island where he was stuck. But the ocean is the ally of Moana, and she's basically a waterbender.

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For those who have seen it, how does Moana, herself, hold up personality wise, compared to the other princesses?

>>87877220
The ass was fat.
She was canonically impregnated after the events of the short even.

>>87874330
That is the worst villain song I have EVER heard.

>>87874112
Disney trailers always make the films look absolutely terrible

>>87880022
Does she have a name? And are there any other standout characters?

>>87880064
You have the worst taste I've EVER seen.

>>87878005
Different anon but at least in my country it's released in February, so no way to see it in a theatre for 3 months and I'm not waiting that long.

If it's good I'll try to drag some family members to a theatre with me

>>87880084
This isn't up for debate, child. It's horrendous.

>>87879963
>which is why he needs a boat to get off the island where he was stuck.

Nope

He needs a boat because without his fish hook, he has no powers at all. And the island is too far from other things to swim anywhere.

>>87880103
It is not. You need to take a hard look at your life, your choices, and where it all went wrong. God speed on your journey.

>that animation in the last part of You're Welcome

sweet

>>87879850
When the Disney logo was on the screen I thought to myself "You know, Moana/Elsa might be an interesting ship." Like, before the movie had even started, that was the first thing on my mind. I feel dirty for it.

>>87880127
>that part after the song where Maui traps Moana in a cave and leaves her for dead

jesus

>>87880138
>crossovers
Purge yourself from that madness, anon.

>>87880104
I thought he said he sinks near the start.

>>87880158
I saw the movie, and that is why he needs a boat. He can swim, and does swim in the movie. There's no indication that the ocean ever prevented him from leaving the island.

>>87879973
She's really cute and she actually gives a fuck about being a leader and taking care of her people, and genuinely feels torn between them and her thirst for exploration. She likes both of her parents and even seems to want to obey her father's stubborn curmudgeonly "muh tradition" stance despite it not aligning with her personal desire, but it comes to a point where she goes against his wishes because that would basically condemn her and her people to just waiting around for death and pestilence to overcome them.

>>87880236
Consider the following: consider its trees

Probably the most visually beautiful Disney CG film yet. I think Moana and Rango are at the top of the CG heap (though The Croods is way underrated). Great music, and I legit teared up a couple times.

>>87880190
>>87880104
He LITERALLY says in the fucking song text that he can't do anything but float, which is why he needs her boat.

>>87880265
>He LITERALLY says in the fucking song text that he can't do anything but float, which is why he needs her boat.

And you LITERALLY see him swimming in the fucking movie. Maybe watch the movie before going on a whiny tirade, yeah? He had no way to get off the island because he has no powers without his hook and it's too far to swim anywhere.

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Is it

Is it okay to have a crush on the crab?

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>>87880213
That sounds really nice. I actually really like that they've switched from princesses that give no fucks about their kingdom or ruling, to ones that actually do want to rule.

>>87880265
>Maui can do everything but float

Yeah. Float. Like a boat floats. Because you need a boat to go across the ocean, you can't swim across it. It has nothing to do with him not being able to swim in the ocean because he pissed it off.

>>87880213
I loved the parts where they showed her practicing being a leader and looking for solutions. Especially when it came to protecting that dumb fucking chicken.

>>87880304
His song's pretty lewd so it'd be weird if you didn't

>>87880288
>going on a whiny tirade
The only one doing that here, is you.

>>87880425
>goes on a tirade because they're wrong about why Maui needs a boat
>n-no, YOU'RE whining!!

Okay, honey. Go back to bed now.

>>87878861

Can we put the WWE tag team titles on The Rock and Lin-Manuel Miranda? Just for a week or two?

>>87879575

Fellow retailfag here in the same boat, hopefully I can get in to see it Friday night.

>>87880355
I did too, but I also wish someone could have gently pointed out to her that just randomly pointing to a lot of land that happens to be within eyesight and telling your farmers "um. replant-over there i guess" wasn't the best possible move there. She was trying, and it's kind of excusable because she's inexperienced, but she should work on that one.

>>87880355
I like the part where she starts giving the simple and obvious answer, and the tradesman keeps saying "well, yeah, I've already tried that" and she keeps going through all of the solutions and the guy's already done it all because he knows his shit.

>>87880457
You kids get worse every year.

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>>87880457
Did you see someone use the word "tirade" once and decide to keep using it without knowing what it means?
That's so current year.

>>87877910
Had some people come to my college to talk about the movie and screen some clips. They said the pig was originally on the boat for the movie but had to get cut for time.

>>87876813
Wow, this is awful

>>87880657
I thought he may have played a bigger part at some point in production but, geez, they should have scaled back on his presence in the ads too. I spent a large chunk of the movie wondering if Maui and Moana were going to make a stop over at Moana's island and happen to pick up the pig while they were there before proceeding with their journey again.

>>87880695
Agreed. If it were up to me I wouldn't have kept him in. It's needlessly misleading and distracting from what IS in the film.

>>87880754
It's also kind of sad to see it confirmed that Disney's current animal sidekick characters really are so superfluous that they can just be cut out completely and the film's still fine for it.

>>87880810
I didn't even think about that. My God.

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MORE LIKE MANA

>>87880138
Elsa's too old for Moana though, and only has eyes for Anna.
Moana/Mulan is the ideal ship, tbhfamilia

>>87874332
The Rock apparently really put his heart into this kind of work.

>>87877220
How long till the short is ripped?

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>marvel movies come out outside america weeks before
>actual disney movies are delayed for about a month
I'm mad

I read the junior novelization and half dozen other Moana books a few months ago. It will be hard-pressed to make a $billion USD. Mark my words. And if it does will take as long as Finding Dory. :^/

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>>87873559

>>87879850
Post bingo card

>>87880138
>>87881227
>CURRENT YEAR
>not shipping Moana/Moofy

I haven't followed any of this movie's development at all but I'm strangely eager to see it.

>>87881984
>>not shipping Moana/Moofy
Of course not, nobody gives a shit about Moofy anymore.

AUEEE AUEEE

>>87873559
I love the Rock and my sister is looking forward to this movie so I'm pretty much guaranteed to see this eventually

I RATHER BE SHINY

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>>87874325

>>87881827
>And if it does will take as long as Finding Dory.
So just 3 months which was shorter than Zootopia

So far Moana is wwwaaaayyyy behind Beasts in ticket sales, according to Movietickets.com. Just saying.

>i have to wait tull 22nd Dec to see it in theatres
>Of course, it gained a stupid sub title: "Paradise has a Catch" The word for catch in this context being the same for "hook".

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>>87885877

in my country it's "Vaiana:Ocean's Treasure"

>>87879583
Yeah I'm going to guess no.

>record breaking 2.6 million so far at the box office
>Frozen was 1.2 million, same timeframe

The skin texture looks so weird and plastic

>>87886813
That's the only thing that bugged me in the movie. Everything else looked fantastic--from the clothes down to the hair--but the skin stood out. I'm not sure why, this didn't bug me in any other recent Disney animated film. Maybe it's because everything else was so textured.

>>87886860
My uess is that they just show more skin than usual, but the skin does look off

>>87886860
>>87886897
For me it was only distracting for Maui because his head is so huge. They needed more texture to their skin... maybe a scar or more wrinkles or something would have helped.

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Some visual design art for the villagers from a Disney artist

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>>87887543

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>>87887562

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loved when this guy showed up as a spirit with the other ancestors and nodded at Moana

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>>87877220
>short


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvp3zAPraF4

fun fact:

if not WW2 Disney company would cease to exist.

Behind the scenes feature about the water: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSoAgLgdAWQ

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>>87888010
Emotion could use more art

I did really like that Te Ka was actuallyTe Fiti. It was clever on the film makers part since the thing she lacked as Te Ka was compassion, so her turning into what she initially was was pretty cool.

>>87888277
Same. I wasn't expecting it either, since they marketed the volcano monster as just one of the three bad things they had to get through to get to Te Fiti. The scene where Moana approaches her was so beautifully animated too.

>>87873559
I saw it at a screening a few days ago. Absolutely loved it. Great visuals, loved the music. Who knew The Rock could sing? And that he sounds a bit like Voltaire when he does so?

>>87879632
Are you ok anon?

>>87888710
>Who knew The Rock could sing?

Well, he did sing quite a bit in wrestling.

>>87879632
I'm genuinly worried for you.

>>87879632

Let It Go

Vaiana or Moana?

Saw it last night enjoyed it, had a shit ton of musical numbers, wasn't bad and I particularly enjoyed when she came to Dormammu to bargain. Nice DIsney synger : ^ )

>>87889624
Moana if you're a puritan, Vaina if you don't want to make parents think Disney's doing a biopic about an Italian porn star.

What were your favorite animation sequences in the film?

>>87889878
without spoilers:

-The ocean when it first "meets" Moana

-The last third of You're Welcome

-The "I Am Moana" sequence

-The last part of the confrontation with Te Ka

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Art by Britney Lee for baby Moana. She worked on the film a few years ago and said "most of the things I worked on changed drastically" except baby Moana

>>87878570
>implying he didn't peak when he literally raped Europe

>>87876478
They're not pushing it as hard on non Disney owned or non children networks.

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saw it early
the crab was the best part of the movie but the rock has fun moments. Take your kids or go with your family.

Shitty torrent when?
>>87890918
Would bang

>>87887543
>>87887562
>>87887587
they look like the villagers from Emperor's New Groove

Is the chicken only in it to keep the kids laughing

>>87880359

>pretty lewd

I must have missed something, how was it lewd?

>>87892275
As said before, turkey level dumb.
Make of that what you will.

>>87892481
Maybe they're just talking about how his voice is slinky? No idea.

>just got back from the movie
wtf i want to be a wayfinder now

How Far I'll Go was great and it's going to be stuck in my head for weeks. Really great soundtrack overall.

The crab's design bothered me a bit, but he was still a pretty fun villain. Genuinely got a bit spooked by him when it got serious with Maui, and also by that first monster with the mask that was blown by the geyser.

Moana is qt and a good leader.

The "You're Welcome" song sequence screamed "we wanted to animate this whole movie in 2D but the producers didn't let us."

>>87892275
I'm glad they cut the pig out of most of the movie. One animal sidekick is enough, and the chicken was so hilariously retarded that it felt like it was making fun of the obligatory wacky sidekick.

>>87892849
>When Maui tells Moana to not start singing
>"If you're a girl and you have an animal sidekick, you're a princess."

>>87892849
I don't like cutesy-wootsy animal sidekicks so I'm glad the pig was mostly cut out too. The chicken didn't need to be there but him being so damn retarded was at least funny.

>>87892901
Flynn would be proud

Has anyone checked out the art book yet?

>>87874330
Fucking terrible. What the fuck Disney. What the fuck.

>>87893275
There's a video of the pages on an Amazon review

So was the movie any good?

>boss offers me a trip to take some pictures at the Chicago premiere
>get to watch the movie too
>no way to get there in time
Shit sucks, man.

>>87893898
cross posted from /tv/

It was good. Better than Princess and the Frog which was Musker/Clements' last film. Better than Brave, which this film shares a lot of geneology with (no love interest, tough girl protag, based on more obscure folklore, etc.)

Great music, "We Know the Way" was my favorite number and the scene itself was epic. Maui's song "You're Welcome" is also good, but you can tell the Rock struggled through it as he is not a trained singer. There is a cover by Jordan Fisher and Lin-Manuel that plays during the credits where the song shines much better.

Also there's a cameo from Jemaine Clement of Flight of the Concords and his whole song and character is excellent. There's also a post-credits sequence that's not AMAZING but if you want more of that spoiler, it's there.

Overall an 8/10. I only go to theatres to see Disney Animated Studios stuff anymore, so make of that what you will.

I wish we got a teaser for Frozen 2 or Gigantic instead of garbage-ass Cars 3.

>>87893898
Yes

>>87892727
Over the past few years, I've noticed the 2D animated parts of most CG movies are really gorgeous, creative, and well done. I slowly started realizing it was all of the 2D artists going all out with what little time they were allotted.

I think CG animation has finally reached the level of matching the beauty of excellent 2D animation (ESPECIALLY with Moana). But that doesn't meant I wouldn't still love a 2D movie.

Fantastic movie.
Moana was so damn hot.

>>87893854
She's gotten 3 terms and it looks like a 4th is likely. However you might feel about her policies, it seems Germany as a whole is pretty okay with how she's running things.

>>87880304
No, get help.

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>>87892727
Clements and Musker did want to make this either 2D, or at least make the entire film with the paperman tech, but they didn't think that the tech could hold up with what they wanted to do.
I'm still holding out that we'll get a 2D film again someday.

So is the chicken like a parody of mascot animals?

>reading reviews on RT
>they actually say the movie is about "Progressive Moana challenging Maui's mansplaining"
>no really, "mansplaining" is used

I'm now scared to watch this movie.

>>87895836
And retards said Frozen is about a lesbian coming out of the closet.

Who cares?

>>87895454
I legitimately have no idea how they made the water so incredible in this movie. There's no way the Paperman tech would have been able to handle it. Hell, I even wonder how a regular 2D film would handle it, other than having a shitton of animators working on the water non-stop.

>>87895836
You could flip Moana's gender and the plot would be exactly the same.

>>87880304
I would fuck him

and how soon will we get porn of him and Sebastian?

So does that redhead from Inner Workings have a name or not? Based on reviews, it doesn't seem so.

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>>87895836
The King of the Elves is technically still in production. Maybe they could use the Paperman tech for that? But, the concept art looks so lush that I wonder if it could handle that either.

The movie's all right - - visually stunning, but the basic plot is the same as Kubo And The Two Strings.

And Kubo did it better.

tfw alt right and inspired by this movie

I thought for sure the short would end with the guy quitting his job and going on some dumb adventure. Glad Disney avoided the usual dumbassery and instead gave a more realistic message like WIR's.

>>87895836
So what actually happens in the movie is

Maui tells her that she, a mortal kid princess with no experience fighting or sailing, needs to just sit and wait for him to beat the crab and get his hook back. Moana tells him that wants to help, and that the ocean must have chosen her for a reason, so she isn't going to just sit back. He mocks her for it (basically saying the ocean is an idiot) and she doesn't back down, then ends up helping him and saving his life, and he apologizes. Also, shark head.

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>>87896110
I was about to post something similar. It's just the familiar Hero's Journey.

Although I liked how Moana visibly and gradually got better through effort and was able to use her new skills to go up against Te Ka.

I don't think that was something as evident or even present in Kubo.

>>87895836
Maui is a demigod, Moana is a human And Maui is an insecure person who was abandoned by his parents, and only gained support of the humans by pulling fantastic feats of bravery, until his last one made his name cursed by them all, so the desire to impress and regain the adoration of humans is a big driver for him, and when his power to be unique and special is almost taken, it's a major blow for him so needing help from Moana seems not only impossible, but an insult to him. It's not about gender unless you place the gender there. Sure, you can say the princess commentary is gendered, but it's more that it's a Disney meta joke.

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>>87896110
Moana would be able to beat up Kubo though.

>>87896579
Yeah, you got it. I feel like aside from the princess comments their relationship is very gender-neutral.

>>87874330
>>87880064
>>87880084
>>87880117
Shiny is pretty terrible as it is, the original demo is MUCH better, but Disney wasn't going to let the soundtrack for the movie have a hip-hop instrumental.

>that one dancing kid near the beginning
You know the one.

>>87896025
Actually that itself IS the problem. Moana, much like how general media does, portrays women as Men with Tits.

You know women are intelligent, capable, etc. That is all Gynocentric bullshit for girls to eat up and for little boys to be deluded by until they grow up and see women? A shit. Though by then Disney and all other media makers would have gotten their money.

If Moana was written realistically she would have either died in her journey because women suck at journeying and taming the wilderness OR she becomes a moist pussy for Maui. Neither portrayal sells with the current Pro-Female agenda where the United States loves to pretend women are everything they've NEVER been. So that's why lies and propaganda get made. To keep the twats from whining so that their purses OPEN and merchandise can be sold. And if a few beta males also see the movie and buy stuff? That's bonus sales. Manginas are just bonus sales.

>>87877920
Really? I haven't seen the movie yet, but "More" sounds like a more necessary song to me.

>>87896715
(You)

>>87896715
But consider the following: the coconut

>>87896110
>The basic plot is the monomyth
Nihil nove sub sole

>>87896646
It was a very gender-neutral film in general. It wasn't 'look I'm a girl I can do things' it's 'look I'm a potentially competent person when I believe in myself I can do things'. So it's even more infuriating when people try to inject the same gender challenges into a story. It felt like a classic tale, a world where people don't care about the gender 'context', even as sort of a 'look how rebellious we are'.

I wish we didn't care about this stuff. That people could just fit roles of adventure or gentility when needed, for adventures. Heroes are supposed to be exceptional, why do we feel this need to bog down stories with relatable cultural expectations?

>>87880810
I'm really fucking happy that's the case. Are you joking? This is a vast improvement from the days of Mulan and Hunchback of Notre Dame where 10/10 films were rendered 7/10s thanks to obnoxious shitty sidekicks. Now they're just minor comic relief to sell toys, which is the way it fucking should be.

>>87896784
Okay, but consider the following: its trees

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>>87896304
Okay, I'm gonna regret asking but, how? It's a feminist brown chick showing the world she's independent and shit.

>>87896658
The demo sounds like Lin is trying to do a drag impression. I prefer Jemaine's David Bowie version.

>>87896715
>That is all Gynocentric bullshit for girls to eat up and for little boys to be deluded by until they grow up and see women? A shit.

what did he mean by this?

>>87896823
Mushu was fucking great and was a lot less annoying than this chicken.

>that fucking black monster in the neon mask that attacks Moana right before they meet the crab
What the fuck WAS that. Its never explained in the movie and I feel like it should have been.

>>87896841
Anyone who calls themselves alt-right is pretty much shitposting at this point.

>>87896846
okay, but consider the following: each part of the coconut, that's all we need

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>>87896846
I felt sorry for Maui because he had a hard life. Why the fuck does everyone want to inject their politics into this crap?

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>>87896658
>hire someone known for his hip-hop influences and for writing complex multisyllabic raps
>have barely any of that in the music
He's working on a project with Byron Howard, so maybe that will have a princess dropping a diss track on a villain.

>>87896907
I don't know but it was horrifying as hell. It felt like it was looking into her soul.

The movie was good but holy crap that song the crab sang was garbage. Why was it in the movie?

>>87896907
It was scary and cool. They just gave it extra focus to show the geyser that would be used on Tamatoa.

>>87896715
Didn't you already post this? >>87879632

>>87896974
>hey Lin we need a villain song
>except we don't really have a villain
>can you just write a song for this crab thing that stole Maui's hook

>>87896985
Yeah, the /r9k/ posters pretty much have all their posts pre-written in text documents, they just change a few things here and there to make it sound like they're actually responding and engaging.

Remember people, report & ignore the shitposters.

best Disney movie since the Renaissance

it's almost comical how much better the music is compared to Tangled and Frozen

>>87896974
You kidding? I love that song!

Probably will watch this movie this Friday when my family go out black friday shopping

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Tamatoa did nothing wrong.

>>87878202
This was a good post.

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>>87896715
>>87896945
Jesus fuck. You know why it's fun to watch a female lead like Moana? Because she's an ideal, a hero who is brave and tenacious enough to fight hard enough for her people without being swayed by her hormones like a shitty IRL teenager, while still having enough flaws to be somewhat relatable.

We watch cartoons for these ideals in the first place, they are attractive characters with strong personalities that you won't find in the usual shitlord teenage girl, that's what's so great about them.

>>87896994
>propaganda is blatantly injected into everything
>There's got to be a way to make it illegal to prefer a Pretty Lie in media. Like castrate and spay anyone who subsidizes that kind of junk. They can enjoy propaganda filth, but they must be neutered both female and male alike.
Just because you're open about it, doesn't mean you're not a hypocrite

>>87897073

It wasn't a bad song, but it really had no place in the movie. All of the songs had a South Pacific vibel, and then there's this random David Bowie disco song smack in the middle of it.

>>87897111
Tamatoa is the David Bowie that the Pacific Islands needed

>>87896880
Mushu is great, it's the cricket and horse that were annoying and unnecessary.

>>87897078
This looks like a dream or something on account of her floating. How big is the crab?

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>>87896841
Moana is a person raised in a culture that fears the world beyond, and cares only for the here and now, while those who dare to hit on cultural potentials are excluded.
The world is dying while those who could save it hide away and dance and sing like nothing is wrong and it's always going to be safe where they are.
Moana knows the danger, but unlike other princesses, she doesn't reject her culture to find that out, she feels like she needs to save it by going further.
She discovers her people used to be great explorers and inventors who traveled and galvanized on the bounties of the world, not hid away from them, and it inspires her to quest to save the world.
She meets a legendary figure, now spurned for his actions that he did to help people, and made their culture great, but via a mistake was scorned.
We find out abandonment as a child and a need to fill the world with things to be thanked for are what make him happy, but he is afraid of facing the monsters of the world that could take away what he has left.
The villains are all greedy, self-centered, against the notions of identity and purpose. The Kakamora are genderless featureless creatures searching for prizes and bounty, Tamatoa is vain and prideful of his small world of being fed constantly and glittering pointlessly in a cave, and Te Ka is just uncoordinated rage, missing the heart of creation leaving only to destruction.
When Moana is finished, the world is creating new islands again, and she leads her people to their cultural heritage and the ambition to explore and conquer the seas, like her ancestors did.

In short, the story is about overcoming willful ignorance and living only in the now, swarms of creatures lacking identity, monsters of external gratification in isolated bubbles, and corrupting forces that destroy what little safe places are left, to set out, bring back the spark of creation and joy to the world, revitalize her people's heritage, and restore her legends to greatness.

>>87896852
I'm not talking about the singing, Jermaine is a better singer than Lin, it's the music in the demo that sounds better.

>>87897129
He's holding her up by a plate on her back.

Moana's personality is how Korra's should have been written, honestly.

This samoan Disney film is getting pushed like Roman Reigns even on the WWE Network.

I'm watching Survivor series then this shows up, lmao

>>87897129
He's holding her up by something.

He big.

>>87873559
Did Maui's parents abandon him because he was too ugly or something?

None of the normal myths for him that I've found mention anything about it like the movie was implying.

What movie references were there? The only things I was able to spot was Sven, Baymax, and Sebastian.

Was hoping for a Zootopia reference

>>87897184
Anything that concerns the Rock is getting pushed hard, anon.

See:
>Reigns
>Nia Jax
>Usos

>>87897181
The only reason /co/ hates Korra is because she's more realistic. She liked bad boys, broke the heart of the Nice Guy (Bolin) and constantly messed up and typically got out of bad situations via the power of Bad Writing.

/co/ only likes stupid idealized bullshit waifu shit where females are everything they've never been. No wonder women don't care for beta males. They love their Wonder Woman and such. Speaking of which that upcoming WW film is going to be a riot. So many simps and manginas are going to go there and cheer for Feminist filth yet also claim they're against Feminism propaganda. Oh the hypocrisy.

>>87896941
I think that's my problem with the soundtrack. Lin is a hip-hop artist, meaning rap and R&B, but Disney didn't want to make a movie with a rap or R&B soundtrack.
The music is good, but it's not as good as could've been.

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>>87897247
>>87897184

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>already doing worse than zootopia

still #1 disney movie of all time

How old is Moana supposed to be? Why is she so hot?

>>87897374
16ish I'd imagine

>>87897374
16

And is she that hot?

Filipinos, Malaysians, and Indonesians already butthurt.

>87882374

>>87897374
>Why is she so hot?
Why not?

>>87897368
>>>/trash/

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>>87897374
16 so not for sexual

>>87897423
I'm a flip, ain't even mad.

>>87897423
they just mad cuz they know they'll never be as cool as Polynesians

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>>87897514
16 is fair game in much of the world.

>>87873559
>Searches MOANA on pirate bay
>all that 90s italian porn
Fucking cicciolina.

>>87897387
Don't know about her personality, but physically she's the second hottest after Jasmine. I know she got a fat ass.

>>87897137
You forgot to meme a jew being behind everything.

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>>87897385
>>87897387
>>87897514
>>87897674
>16
It's time.

>>87879830
more like /r9k/

>>87876732

They are part of the Hermit Crab family

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>>87873559
Roadhog rides again

>>87897137
This guy gets it.

>>87897271
Did it just never occur to anyone that they changed it because Bowie died during the making of the movie and they wanted to pay homage to him?

>>87898531
No, why the fuck would they do something like that? It doesn't even sound like Bowie, that's what Jermaine always sounds like.

>>87898575
I'm talking about the change in the instrumental, and is it really so far fetched?

>>87898531
Lin didn't start working on on the song until months after Bowie died.

>>87898719
It's not THAT far fetched, but there's no evidence for that claim.
It seems completely random.

>>87898928
source?

>>87898957
https://twitter.com/lin_manuel/status/704749401693093889

March 2016.

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>>87899075
And

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-moana-lin-manuel-miranda-20161115-story.html

Screencap is bit about Bowie

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>>87899107

God damn I love Jemaine Clement

Interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vu66sjht4zU

Interview 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8-wE93UWsM

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> that second half of Shiny when shit gets real

Easily the highlight of the movie

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>>87873559
D-did anybody happen to catch her canon name in the end credits?

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>>87874325
>not sure what everyone is so amused by
>finally see it

>>87897514
Ugh, americunts cant do Good proportions on Women...
..

>>87899999
what happens?

>>87899743
This man is one of my favorite actors and musicians. What We Do in the Dark is still one of my favorite recent films.

Best seen for me is probably her hitting the wall moment with her grandma showing up as a ghost "Looks like I chose the right tattoo" was funny but then shit gets real.

Why does Disney insist on making pop covers of the main songs of their movies? They are fucking garbage and people will listen to the original more.

>>87896715
>Men with Tits

Is that not okay anymore or does it mean something completely different than what I've always thought?

To me it always meant to forget about gender and focus on writing someone whose actions, thoughts, and motives made sense. Are you saying people take it to mean writing women like stereotyped macho men?

Take the Terminator series for example. T1 Sarah Connor is my version of man with tits. It's just the same old hero archetype, but with a girl instead of a boy, and it was fucking great. Then in T2, she became the bad kind of man with tits. They made her a weird macho man, and that was terrible.

>>87900403
Originally, it was so they could make money by having songs played over the radio and sell more singles.

Maybe it's just me, but I feel that "How far I'll Go" is this movies "Go the Distance". They have the same feelings in my opinion

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>>87900403
fuck you

>Tamatoa shit talking Maui and revealing his insecurities all in one song.
I love him.

>>87900434
I guess that makes sense. Maybe I am the minority but the movie version is always better

>>87900601
That caught me off guard, dude was fucking savage.

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>>87896715
end your life as quickly as you can

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>>87900611

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>>87900708

>Te Ka was never evil, just lost without her compassion.
>Knowing that without her heart the world would slowly fall to chaos, she allowed rage to take over to gain it back.
I really did like the bad guys this time around.

I liked how the dad being all "no don't do that", was not just him being a cunt. He had legit reasons to act the way he did.

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>>87900739

>>87900806
That was actually a really good reveal. The scene where she gives it back was glorious

Why can't Disney movies have a human male protagonist for a change?

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>>87900907
They did.

>>87900907
Disney makes animated movies for GIRLS and Nu-Males. So if you see a modern day protagonist? He's going to be notably emasculated and pussy whipped completely outsmarted by a female character because that is what is currently politically correct.

Man Dumb, Female Smart. Men can be strong....but their lives are useless without a pussy.

Disney cannot break out of formula. To do so would destroy their entire media making scheme. That's why all their movies in subtle or not so subtle have Pro-Female themes.