Snyder Bat Epic Pt.4

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First up is the first annual which serves as a reboot for Mr. Freeze, which in my humble opinion blows ass.

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Posting this from campus so I humbly request a bump or two until I get home.

>>87849426
>It's a villian is retconed into being one of the many Batman villains who happen to be mentally deranged episode
/CO/ IS GONNA FREAK

>>87849426
Snyder agrees with that and he said that this change will be ignored in the future anyway

>>87849574
Now if only he's regret Duke and Harper and stop forcing them on other writers...

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Not to be a douche, but can you guys please refrain from posting images. Shit talk Snyder all you want but use words, not pics. Please and thank you.

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>>87849604
Don't think we're that lucky, although I do like where your head is at.

>>87849919
The Best Duo returns

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Starting one of Snyder's more polarizing arcs, Death of the Family. Hold onto your butts.

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This is by far my favorite cover for this issue.

>>87850591
>Polarizing

Does that mean that people actually liked it?

>>87850591
What's with Snyder shipping batsXSnyder

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>>87850688
Read reviews online. A lot of people love this. I enjoy it. Not the greatest, but certainly not the worst.

>>87850231
Ya know they really didn't need to shit ALL over his character. For fucks sake.

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>Barbara's sure to find it soon, the way she hounds me.
I'm strangely disappointed by this. I want him to end up with Essen.

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It begins...

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They need to let him finish the goddamn joke.
Also I know this arc is very edgy in some aspects, the idea that Joker is moving through the dark snapping the necks of these officers is "otherworldly" for the character. He's ascended to true Michael Myers territory.

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>Sometimes I lie under there at night and lisiten to you sleep. The sad things you say...how I want to just reach my arms up and...

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I don't think he told a joke.

>>87849540
Mom.

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>>87851441
I'm not sure anyone know's the point of Joker letting dollmaker cut hit face off.

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I always though death Joker toxin would be one of the worst ways to go.

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I love that Ace Chemicals is a location in the DCEU. Also love the Red Hood throwback outfit. More maitre d' than motorcycle fetish.

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>Giant mallet out of nowhere
I love it

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The three Jokers theory would provide a decent explanation for why this Joker is so much more edgy/obsessive compared to past incarnations.

Also can anyone tell me which versions of the Joker are included in the 3 Jokers Theory? I hypothesize them to be:
1. Golden Age Joker
2. Killing Joke Joker
3. Death of the Family/Endgame

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Someone's been to the zoo.

>>87851645
To prove that his smile wasn't a mask. Wanted to prove underneath batman's mask was an actual batman. As if they were supernatural entities.

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Say what you will, if I was in Alfred's shoes I'd probably piss myself right there on the spot.

>>87851854
Nice reference my man

>>87851907
Based Joker just wanted to remove the batfamily, how can people disagree

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Backup story with Harley. I wonder if they're every going to adapt this story in some other type of media (animated feature, motion comic, basis for Batman movie).

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>When did I ever say I found you beautiful?
That's not funny.

>>87851945
I think this is the closest the Joker has ever become to becoming a legitimate monster compared to the members of Batman's rogues gallery. His later appearance in Endgame really sells this point.

>>87850678
Love this variant it is both works in hiding the jokers face and the artist name is appropriate for the character

>>87852191
Yeah, which made sense too since this Joker was getting "serious" and not playing around anymore

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>>87852234
Is that Araron Kuder?

>>87852076
Joker was an internet shit poster all along

>>87852191
Snyder has said during the Endgame interviews that he views the Joker as Gotham's version of the Devil

>>87852384
It's Gene Ha!

>>87849745
>You hurt me, Victor, they'll turn this room into a sauna so fast
>Victor snaps his neck
>Nothing happens and no one notices until he starts rewiring the cooling system

Fucking Arkham security.

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>>87852865
I'd just off myself if I had to stay more than a week in Arkham.

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I wonder if there's any actual science between Joker's pigmentation mutations and the calamitious concoction of chemicals

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Now he's lost two fathers.

>>87852983
and yet both Joker and Harley survived it, unless Harley's vat had different stuff in it

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Oh christ

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Do you think Snyder was trying to channel what Miller did with his version of the character? Or do you think he was going for something different entirely.

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He's not playing the game anymore.
I just lost.

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It always struck me how wordy Snyder decided to make this Joker. Also which Joker voice do you hear in your head when reading? I'm thinking a mix between Emerson and Ledger.

>>87853287
Miller always felt like a strong influence in Snyder's Batman in my opinion

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Considering what happened in Endgame, how would you interpret this page?

>>87852477
nah, it's kuder. he's signed it at the bottom left

>>87853360

This is way too Nolan Joker for me. Comics Joker never cared about Batman as anything other than Batman

>>87853877

>four black haired clones and one redhead

>>87854126
Christ Snyder why is this so FUCKING gay

>>87851369
The payoff to this in Endgame is my second favorite moment in that storyline.

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Welcome to the Mad House

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Flaming Steed

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It's almost embarassing how quickly Batman dismantles some of the members of his rogues gallery in just a few panels.

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Love this page.

>>87855549
now that's disturbing

>>87855612
>Penguin literally here just to get the gang lord equivalent of paid
I don't know why that kills me but it does

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>>87855614
You said it.

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>...Now sit your #%^ down!
Really? We can show extreme body horror in all shapes and forms but we can't say ass? Any work I produce would have to be creator owned mature just for cursing alone. I'm not censoring.

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I really enjoy how Joker is written in this page.

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Last issue of this arc. Let's see if Snyder can stick the landing.

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Alfred being here is just too much.

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Eww

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>I hate nothing more on this earth than you, Joker. Nothing.
This dialog reads as if it was written by an eighth grader.

>>87853360
When ever they use the symbols to censor out swearing, I try to guess what is actually being said.

What did Joker call the bat-family? Fuck-ups? Shitheads? Assholes? Fuck-ups seems the most relevant to the point he's going for, but maybe some more creative alternative?

>>87856155
Is Snyder a good writer? Because a lot of his fucking work tends to fall flat

>>87856178
did a killing joke equivalent happen before? It was referenced so I assumed so, so that means Joker doesn't actually know any of their personal details, because he'd totally bring up Barbara being paralyzed.

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>He captured them and didn't cut off their faces.
Ha.Good one

>>87856295
Honestly why even fucking bother with the suspense for fucks sake. I swear, what a lame cop out to an already kinda boring scene. Just give us a month of the batfamily wearing skin over their face like fucking leatherface because at least that would have been funny.

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>>87856322
They could use a healing gel made from similar particles that construct clayface to erase scarring. Jason's face is too mangled to fix so he wears the Joker's face becoming an even more distant member of the bat family. I know this insane but that doesn't mean I wouldn't read it.

>>87856155
>>87856178
>when even Joker asks why Batman doesn't kill him

and he makes senses too

>>87856322
but making them believe that he did that when it wasn't true is more funny, he pranked them

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This is literally some of the gayest dialog I have ever read. Nothing about this is subtle.

>>87856387
Which would have been funnier? the time everyone thought they'd lost their faces? or the time they actually had their faces carved off? because I can imagine some fucking hilarious banter with the joker where he just constantly brings it up as a way to remind them how absurd their lifestyle is.

>>87856295
Ok I call bulshit how the FUCK did joker manage to create perfect imitation face masks

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>Jason and Babs
DC make it happen.

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>>87856448
He had them made a while ago and was saving them for a rainy day.

>>87856427
I really hate Snyders homosexual writing we get it they have a complex fucking relationship

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I think it's weird that they decided to incorporate the glasgow smile with this Joker. It's fascinating which influences they decided to incorporate at various points.

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I can't even comprehend what is going on in this page.

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>>87856521
I think the Joke does care, it's just not at the top of his priority list.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etst4t3ES8Y

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Ha

>>87856560
>even send him back

Eh, wonder if the foreshadowing was intentional

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>>87856702
With Snyder I really want to say yes. He doesn't seem like the guy to make shit up on the fly.

>>87850157
And this is yet another reason why nu52 sucks big fat donkey dong. Let's go from the villain being a tragic man with good reasons for doing evil things to "lol, he's just another psycho".

>>87856854
Damn, Cullen can't catch a break

>>87856217
Critically he's considered the best writer DC has

>>87856404
Joker sounds like some posters here whining about the batfam

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And it looks like that's going to be it for this thread. Hope everyone enjoyed. We start my favorite Snyder arc tomorrow, Zero Year Secret City

>>87856218
Yes, Killing Joke happened in this continuity (but Barbara got better), and Joker doesn't really know who they are, he's just saying he does to fuck with them.

Except Jason. He knows who Jason is for reasons explained in another (non-Snyder) story that went on about this same time.

>>87856427
Joker is the ultimate batfag

>>87856448
He was gone for an entire year.

He had lots and lots of time

so basically Harper was supposed to be the new Tim with a starting point more similar to Jason that saw Batman becoming too edgy and wanted to help

>>87856521
It's just that joker doesn't see or can't see Bruce Wayne as Batman.

It for him ruins the fundamental concept of their relationship.

Batman and Joker.

To him there is nothing underneath the mask, which is why he cut off his face to show that underneath his smile is simply more Joker.

That Batman is more than The Dark Knight, that he's also a son, a father, a friend, that he's is Bruce Wayne is simply unfathomable to the Joker.

>>87856779
Ha on the fly.
>>87856605

>>87856178
>And him (again)
It's still chuckle deserving

>>87855429
I wonder if people have been spotting the flies.

>>87857149
I really like it as well. Instead of the grounded Year One it takes the epic, operatic tone of TDKR and apply's it to Batman's origin. Which was a fun way to set it apart.