ITT: Villain character development

>>87846179
Ludo is only a bad ass because of Toffee. Still a great development.

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>>87847209
That guy goes through several phases of villain development. Each one better than the last

>>87846179
Fuck I love this trope, why does it have to be so rare.

>>87849290
Because it has several downsides. Make them too interesting and fans might like them more then the MC, make them too sympathetic and fans won't like seeing them fail.

>>87846179
I love the new ludo and I love that he's an actual threat now too!

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>>87849823
how did it go so right

>>87850249

wasn't that reversed?

>>87849290
Besides what >>87849921 said, there's two other reasons

-It requires actual writing foresight. In other words, the people making the show have to actually be aware that the villain is a character that they are going to develop and that's hard when you are focusing on main characters especially in wacky shows

-It is a double-edged sword because if you develop the villain, you are completely cutting out previous episodes where the villain was a joke. You are essentially committed to having a story arc at that point. I mean, there's a good chance the show as already having a story arc and all, but developing the villain means you are going whole hog into having him be a growing threat. And that's scary to producers

>>87850373
good one

What image editor do you guys use for this? Paint blurs the fuck out of the images when cropping and gimp is crap.

>>87850758
Photoshop CS2 is free on Adobe's website. Just use the Bifocal Sharpener when dreducing sices.

>>87846179
Jesus, what? I stopped watching Star Vs. because it had a really obnoxious humor to it and I couldn't stand the ineffectual idiot villain. Maybe I should try again.

>>87846179
i still can't believe hat the guy's a kappa

>>87853075
hes really not that threatning desu.its just he went from an incompetent idiot to a insane idiot who achieved something thanks to a talking wand.

>>87853278
After the last ep, He's about to get REALLY dangerous

>>87853278
>hes really not that threatning desu
He kinda is when he does his "I'm mad, fuck you all" magic.

Also the shit with the clown outfit was amazing you have to admit

>>87847209
Gary too.

>>87854278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dy2zB8bLSpk
was thinking of this when he popped up

also he only knows how to channel the wand through emotions and anger is his strongest one so thats pretty much all he can do until he gets proper training

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>>87849921
>Make them too interesting and fans might like them more then the MC
This.

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>>87849921
The real problem: Main characters usually are shitty characters

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>>87846179

>>87854794
It's because a lot of creators fall for the relatable straight man meme for MC's.

>>87854532
Pic unrelated?

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>>87855528
Dio is a good example of saturday morning cartoon villain who is entertaining as fuck and isn't boring.

>>87855745
Maybe in Phantom Blood. He was barely in Stardust Crusaders.

>>87855855
He owned the fuck out the screentime he got, though.

>>87855528
Dio is more popular and well liked character than jotaro or johnathan outside of japan.

>>87856079
Just because of memes.

>>87850373
Like everything in At it just goes back to the previous one because status quo.

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Does this count?

someone post the nazi bird from Mystery Incorporated

>>87856522
That guy use to be a pink haired woman?

>>87846179
I know that it's not /co/, but fuck it. A villain's development that I loved was the Meruem and the majority of the Chimera Ants and Kaito from Gaim. Mainly because they evolved from the typical Saturday cartoon villain into complex individuals with understandable and even at some points, noble motivations who stood against the protagonists. I always have a soft spot for those kinds of antagonists as they can blur the lines between heroes and villains.

>>87846179
Meh

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>>87859099
Wouldn't surprise me, given the character designs.

Nah, he goes from background character to likeable supporting cast to joke villain in a single arc, and gradually work his way up the ladder on a "hero's journey" kinda thing that the audience rarely sees. We just check in on him every now and then. He's been slowly pulling strings across the series and is now set up as the main villain.

In a series that's been running weekly for nearly 20 years.

>>87854579
He'll come back
You'll see

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>>87854579
needs an update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvIj3_n0v5U

>>87861658
Come on now, anon. That's clearly an illusion.

>>87862161
yeah but it's fun too pretend

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>>87850249
It's not really development if it's a complete asspull with no character arc.

>>87862218
Technically not an ass pull.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dpN6MR0sOI
Still dumb though.

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>>87855855
Because deep down, he knew he wasn't the best villain in Stardust Crusaders

Anyone else wish we could glimpse into the alternate reality where Araki kept with his original idea of Hol Horse switching sides?

>>87846179
meh

>>87854863
fucking kek

>>87862341
Source?

>>87862341
This marvelous bastard was going to be redemm?

>>87862341
I'm still wishing we go back to the original universe for a part with Hol Horse being one of the primary antagonists for the whole part but still not being the big bad himself.

>>87856522
Lewd

>>87862341
After killing Abdul, I really don't see how it could've worked.
Would've been interesting to see the attempt, though. I guess the brain parasite could've come into play again.

>>87866099
>killing Abdul
Anon...

>>87866819
The reason Abdul came back was because Araki changed his mind about Hol Horse becoming a good guy.