How does Disney do it!?!?

Executives who are better at sniffing out talent than most and put story first.
Warner Bros, for example, hires hacks without creative instincts and when the project turns out poorly they commit incomprehensible atrocities in the editing room dictated by test screening notes. Sony just throws whatever potentially marketable ideas they have at the wall and don't give a single fuck about the quality of the execution.
Disney is extremely profit and franchise driven but they always try to make a satisying, complete story. Plus they have the money for top-tier animation and Lin-Manuel

Didn't this happen with the Ghostbusters reboot?

>>87802661
Which was also a good movie. Therefore, Moana will be flawless.

>>87802297
I wish Disney did another 2D movie

>It won't turn out a profit
True, it didn't 10 years ago, but times have changed. 90s/early 2000s nostalgiafagging is huge now, so who's to say 2D animation won't bring misty-eyed 20somethings to theaters in droves, yearning for the days of The Lion King and Tarzan?

>>87802297
The SJWs would lynch the critics if they gave this a bad review. Same as with Ghostbusters 2016

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>>87802297
>rotten tomatoes

>>87802683
>Ghostbusters 2016
>good
pick one

>>87802297
RT used like 3-400 critics in total. How much money do you think it would take to bribe 250+ of it? How much money does Disney have? Would it really dent their money if some of that "marketing" budget leaked onto the critics?

>>87802297
They actually try most of the time.

You'd be surprised how rare that is. Spielberg climbed to the top only because he did not half-ass it and cared fir the final result. Compare his modern stuff to the one made in his younger days and you can almost pinpoint the moment he burned out and stopped caring, when his directing went from his passion to his increasingly boring job.

Disney tries to make a good job. Because they know it's marketable and makes people come back for more. Zootopia had almost no promotion and it exploded into a billion (compare it to Civil War, which made barely 150 million more with a shitload of ads) on good word of mouth alone. A good movie defends itself and makes bank.

>>87802817
But Trump won so how does that change things? Will future movies be affected?

>>87802723
If they treated 2D movies with the same care as they do CG, they'd all turn a profit.

>>87802797
I choose both.

>>87802817
Okay, that's it Frank. Whites and Blues only until further notice.

>>87802817
>people are sheep
>but not me, I'm special!
Oh look, another idiot who needs to call others inferior only to stop his crippling sense of inadequacy for a few minutes.

I bet you are a sad man without anyone to love. Am I wrong?

>>87802933
Then you have a really shitty taste in films anon

>>87802297
>>87802661
Didn't this also happen with Sausage Party?

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with this

>>87802297
Because
>Muh Diversity
>Muh Female Empowerment

>>87802602
Yeah, this really shows in how they make their comic movies and set up sequels.
>Oh look, a teaser pointing to the next thing after this completed story!
>Why does this movie feel like a trailer for when the real shit will hopefully go down?
>The fuck?! This is like six first acts going nowhere! They truly believe they will make at least seven of these, don't they?

>>87803001
(you)

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>>87803127
For what purpose? A reply is a reply.

>>87802982
Why do I get the feeling you liked BvS and Suicide Squad?

Is anyone actually excited for this movie? All the trailers I've seen have been cringe central

>>87803000
fuck off

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>>87802297
kek

>>87803790
haha pixar really turned to shit

>>87802297
Not surprising at all, since it's a Musker/Clements movie. They've only had two "flops" (Treasure Planet and Princess and the Frog), and both were mostly due to bad marketing (especially TP)

>>87804309
>both were mostly due to bad marketing (especially TP)

Also Martin Short's character, which almost every reviewer listed as a negative.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQzAi-a9Bv8

Crab has good song

>>87802723
Why wouldnt it turn a profit? What faggot kid prefers disgusting 3D minion troll shit to patrician 2D?

>>87802297
I already saw it in an early release and I'm planning to see it in theaters again. It was pretty good.

>>87805745
Kids today by and large prefer CGI to 2D, if box office numbers are anything to go by

Heck, they've preferred CGI to 2D ever since the early 2000s (that's when 2D animation began to lose its grip on the market)

>>87806064
That's mostly just because the movies haven't been as good or have had the same universal appeal.
If Tangled and Frozen had been 2D they would have been just as profitable, especially because Tangled would not have cost $300 million

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>>87805248
SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT MOON MEN

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>>87802297
So is the Oscar dream over for her now? I think she had it in the bag before this.

>>87803746
You like fucking Ghostbuster 2016, you are in no position to judge what that anon likes.

>>87802297
Gee, I dunno OP, how does one of the most wealthy and powerful corporations on earth receive nothing but positive reviews from paid critics?

I mean I can't think of a single means by which a company like Disney could induce critics to write them positive reviews, can you?

>>87806064
Why are kids such bland tastkess fucks these days? Seriously, we need to beat kids as revenge for inventing dabbing and selfie sticks while hating real cartoons.

>>87802764
>muh sjw boogeyman
They hated this movie for portraying Hawaiians accurately(fat)

>>87806376
I know right :/
I was born in the wrong generation just like you

>>87802297
Two words...Paid critics. RT is disgusting. I don't even care to visit this site anymore.

>>87806183
What?

>>87802297
its not exactly difficult as long as you can deliver a semi decent product that doesnt conflict too much with what your bought reviewers put out

>>87806513
Why does everyone shit on RT?
As far as I know they don't have any in house critics, so why do people always blame them for reviews?

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>>87806513
paid critics? whatever could you mean? Surely there is no way a site as impartial and professional as RT would have paid off critics.

>>87802297
>How does Disney do it!?!?
There aren't many other animation studios (is there any at all honestly) that actually try to tell stories in their animated films. Really they have it down to an art and it's not even hard, it's just that they're the only ones consistently doing it

>>87803790
Oh how the tables have radically turned

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>>87806297
There's still a chance for an animated series. Big Hero 6 and Tangled are both getting one.

>>87806761
Look at it this way.

If one reviewer says that a movie has a stock plot, shitty humor but great characters and special effects, how do you determine if that's Fresh or not?

What if the movie is a great movie, but it's really similar to 2 or 3 other great movies that only came out a few years ago so it comes off a little unoriginal? Is the movie Rotten?

Two people could read the same review and come up with completely different determinations on whether it was fresh or not. And it being Fresh/Rotten doesn't mean shit. Tons of great movies got horrible reviews and vice versa.

A critic worth their salt isn't going to leave a movie up to a number rating because everyone seems to think

1-7 = SHIT
8-10 = GREAT

So tons of people just look at the number and if it's not overwhelmingly critically approved it's a shitty mediocre movie.

>>87802933
You can't choose both, just like you can't turn your head left and right at the same time. Ghostbusters 2016 was a syfy channel quality movie that was released theatrically because of feminism.

>>87806330
kek, doesn't deny being a snyderfag. BvS was about as good as Ghostbusters, it just had a shiny coat of varnish to make it look more professional.

>>87806781
I love how one of the positive reviews literally says "the only people who could dislike this film are gamergate neckbeard trolls!"

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Who am I?
I am a girl who loves my island
I'm the girl who loves the sea
It calls me

I am the daughter of the village chief
We are descended from voyagers
Who found their way across the world
They call me

Lin's most likely going to get the oscar for We Know the Way, but I would almost rather him get it for I Am Moana. It's such a simple song, but it's genuinely emotional.

>>87806605
Jermaine Clement plays both Fart and Tamatoa.

>>87802297
they use the same formula over and over

>Maui won't be crushed to death when he attempts to crawl into the goddess of death's vagina to kill her and one of his men laughs and wakes her up

Dropped.

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>>87808549
But Moana is about a spirited but sheltered girl, and a wise cracking guy going on an adventure, meeting colorful characters and ultimately learning more about themselves. What's formulaic about that?

>>87802723
john lasseter killed off 2d. we won't see another 2d film until he and bob iger get replaced.

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>>87802840
>almost no promotion

bullshit, it was everywhere! however that suckass song was so grating they had to stop playig it.

Now this is interesting. Normally Disney has 1 is hit a year but now they have 2. Zootopia made a shit ton of money and was praised. However Moana seems like the film that may end up be better received by critics and may get more awards as a result. Only time will tell which one Disney pushes harder but even with flops like BFG this has been a great year at the house of mouse

>>87807101
That's more just the issue with criticism in general and our obsession with tying numbers to our experiences.

Rotten Tomatoes is at least a convenient place to go read some different reviews of a movie.

>>87803746
>>87808161
Snyder haters have this weird obsession with Snyder, bringing him into every thread no matter how unrelated. Think they're gay for him?

>>87806297

>Oscars

you know these things are rigged, right?

http://www.cartoonbrew.com/award-season-focus/proof-that-oscar-voters-are-clueless-about-animation-109456.html

>>87809887
Why was this post deleted?

>>87802764

Nobody gives a fuck about SJW's anymore. What are they going to do, punch a trashcan?

>>87803000
>AND THEN YOU'LL BLOW UP

>>87810009

i deleted it myself.

>>87809962
So it really comes down to if the voters' kids like furry or delicious brown more.

>>87810059
DON'T TRICK ME

>>87810063

i think it's also MUSIC.

"who gives a shit about" Shakira vs Lin Manuel Miranda.

That's why TLK won with Pocahontas

>>87809962
>http://www.cartoonbrew.com/award-season-focus/proof-that-oscar-voters-are-clueless-about-animation-109456.html
its shit like this that makes me die a little bit inside

>>87810153
Have you listened to Moanas soundtrack?
Apparently one of the people in the production said Moana is less of a musical and more of a movie with musical parts, and the soundtrack makes that very evident

Whether or not that truly makes a difference though, I don't know

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>>87810382

not yet, gonna watch it next week and then base my own opinion on it.though it's standard adventure movie.

>mc need helps of deuteragonist
>they dont get along
>they separate, both end up in unfamiliar environment, realize they need each other to complete the task
>happy end

Just sprinkle it with godtier music and you've got a merch selling machine

>>87802602
No they fucking don't. If they did, you wouldn't have out and out trash like Through the Looking Glass or Tomorrowland or The Lone Ranger or middling tripe like Maleficent or every Marvel movie since The Avengers. Get the Mouse cum out of your eyes.

>>87802297
>Rotten Tomatoes
>Rotten Tomatoes after 22
reviews.
Good grief, man.

>>87810912
Animated canon =/= live action

>>87809892
It's good for aggregation, but people don't really use it for that, which sucks.

>>87802602
What is Pete's Dragon, Lone Ranger, Alice, and BFG?

>>87803082
>A good movie defends itself and makes bank.

Kubo

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>>87802297
bribing

>>87802661
It started getting reviews immediately that were on the level of "well it tried really hard and I didn't hate it so 6/10" just so the reviewer wouldn't get crucified by the "y u hate wimmin" brigade.

>>87802297
8/10 ain't THAT amazing
I mean it is still really really good but don't act like it is something to Paul Revere over

>>87802661
Women are funny, Kyle, get over it

>>87802297
Bribery

>>87813235
>being such a dumbshit
You take rottentomatoes too literally. It's not like a grading system, use metacritic if you want that

>>87813235
Nice pic.

>>87810029
Kek. You got me

>>87803116
We're talking about Disney, not the WB here.

>>87802297

Man, this just hasn't captured any interest whatsoever.

I mean I love brownies and everything but this just seems unappetizing. Like, "let's take modern characters with modern dialogue and "humor" and throw them into a world with a slight veneer of exoticism and fantasy".

>>87802297
And here I thought RT scores didn't matter

>>87802297
Honestly, Disney just tries harder than other studios. They have to money to fly their animators and musicians all over to world to research and they take their time. Time and attention leads to a good product.

>>87813235
>RT is owned by WB
Meme harder newshit.

Moana just seems boring as fuck. I'll just wait for /co/ opinions to even think about pirating it.

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>>87816212

little girls wanted XL sized princess, so disney delivers, Even if the movie is going to be a turd it's going to sell toys of her and her gargantuan friend because it's going to have CATCHY MUSIC!!

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>>87816250

and if they'll get stronger they gonna buy the talents from them.

>>87802297
money

>>87802683
Feminazi detected!

Kill it with fire!

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>>87816349
>Disney Infinity died before the Moana figures dropped
I didn't even play the game, so I guess I was part of the problem, but I liked buying the figures

>>87802297
Disney has evolved into a massive superorganism hellbent on creating timeless classics everybody can find something to love in. With every movie, every special, every game and every product, it gathers more data. It analyzes, it learns, it evolves. It hungers not just for money but for recognition, for that special place in every child's heart where they put our best experiences of their youth. It will never stop, it will never give, those very concepts are alien to it.
If it should create the perfect movie that will end the world, that movie will be in 800,000 theatres and on subscription streams, and it will premier right when some struggling animation company is putting out it's best.
It hungers, and it will feed.

>>87808870
The only met like one character on their journey besides the villain. This is a point A to point B story.

>>87816283
>owned

40% minority share

>>87816578
the problem was the figure didn't sell well enough. They were made to make figures that didn't sell to make ones that did.

>>87809662
No it actually wasn't.

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>>87817471

oh it was, furfags all over the world were creaming themselves over the upcoming billion (actually i started that hype, sorry guys..) not realizing if you want to make movie print money you need to sell toys, even if they're shit, kids MUST buy toys, catchy song is the key.

Lego movie had everything: good cast, story, humour, lesson and catchy song. sure it only made 200m domestically, but damn it made lego bricks fly of their shelves.

all what we got now are bunch of furries in /trash/ pretending playing with their new fursonas.

>>87806781
That's because Rotten Tomatoes doesn't have any critics, you vapid, meme-spewing cunt.

>>87816283
>WB owns 30%
>movies get 30%

Plus you can own a part of the company without owning the critics. Can they control which critics get chosen by RT?

>>87816241
RT scores don't matter in terms of quality of the film, but they sure do matter to normies' perceptions of the quality of the film.

>>87813917
Who?