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"I’ve seen people describe the show as “comfy.” I think there are people who will have a huge spiel about what it means that the Gems have rebelled against their planet and all of these plot things, but I feel like the people who say the show is comfy are almost more in tune with the point of it." - Rebecca Sugar

http://www.cbr.com/steven-universe-creator-on-crafting-a-show-about-family-love-and-aliens/
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>comfy
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>>87800200
>comfy

Is she /ourgal/?
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>>87800200
Yeah. It's less about what their rebellion means and more what it means to them.
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>>87800578
yep
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>I can't actually write a coherent story so I'll just say it's meant to be comfy to avoid criticism
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>>87800200
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>>87800578
More like /sergal/
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Christ, who gives a shit? Just watch your goddamned show or don´t do it; you don´t need to project your insecurities onto us
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>>87800200
Comfy != boring. Gem Harvest was boring. Stuff like, I don't know, Lion 3 or the first half of Chille Tid nails that feel and is still enjoyable to watch.
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>>87800677
Hm... Does Bismuth actually eat that pizza?
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>>87800686
that's Rebecca Sugar.
She made the show dumbass
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>comfy

I want this term to die.
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>>87800705
with her mouth
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>>87800200
Becky confirmed in full on damage control mode after the fanbase universally derided Gem Harvest, hilarious.
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>>87800724
I´m talking about OP and his need to prove to the lorefags wrong. Seriously, who feels that fucking insecure?
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>>87800785
Confirmed for a time traveler too, given that this is from May
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>comfy
Sucrose confirmed for browsing /sug/
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>>87800789
lorefags are annoying tho

>>87800823
kek
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>>87800823
She's craftier than we though.
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>>87800785
Hey, pal, check the article's date.
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>>87800785
anon confirmed retard who didn't actually click the link
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>>87800849
>than we though
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>>87800923
Please don't bully.
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>>87800200
Thats what ive been trying to tell you fags, just enjoy it.
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>>87800962
Hard to do that when it's really fucking boring.
They somehow were able to make the slice of life episodes snore inducing compared to earlier in the show.
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>>87800200

More like

>"I don't know what to do with the obvious main storyline so please enjoy this group of lesbians living a mundane life dealing with mundane problems"

What a waste of creative content.
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>>87800200
>A show where the characters constantly lie, hide secrets, and generally hurt friends friends and family on an episodic basis

>Comfy
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>>87801088
that's what the show has always been about
If you don't like it, watch something else

>>87801089
our word, not hers
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>intersectional feminism
Oh Becky, that's the opposite of peace and love.
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>>87800578
It was confirmed she lurked in the early /sug/ threads.
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>>87801152
what does that screenshot have to do with anything
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>>87801152
By now the term feminism is as broad as the word socialism.
She'd likely find more in common with Christina Hoff-Sommers than with the likes of Anita Sarkeesian.
Given that her show actually gets made and she doesn't live on pity-party bucks.
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>>87800200

>make comfy slice of life show
>instead of just keeping it comfy, take a big 15-inch strap-on lorecock and fuck it in the ass until it prolapses
>become confused when people decide they enjoy watching a tale about intergalactic space parasites raping planets more than they do a fat kid having pizza dreams

Come on, Sugar. Seriously.
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>>87800846
>lorefags are annoying tho
I'm a lorefag and this is true. Most lorefags are turbo autists who have a poor grasp of what the show is about.
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>>87801586
I dont think you really get what this show is about
maybe go watch something else
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>>87801707

But this is more like enjoying the first Star Wars movie and as a sequel instead of getting Empire Strike Back we get C3PO and R2D2 wacky adventures in Tatooine.
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>>87801861
yeah, if the original star wars was C3PO and R2D2 wacky adventures in Tatooine then your analogy would be perfect
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>>87801770

I think you missed the point of my post. Maybe go back to school.
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>>87801131
>>87801770
>>87801980

t. Rebeca Sugar
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>>87802010
I think you missed the point of the show.
maybe go watch something else.
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>>87800200
Fuck you Rebecca Sugar you phinx cat looking lesbian.
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What the fuck does comfy even mean? Gumball is comfy. Gives me good vibes and it's funny. SU does the opposite
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>>87802101

I think you missed the point of my post. Maybe go back to school.
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It's just a thanksgiving special you rubes
chill
Lore will come in due time.

Don't blame the Crew, blame CN and it's shitty pacing of episodes.
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>>87802101

What's the point of the show?

Honest question.
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the show shines most when its being really down to Earth and SoL
when its being action there's little pay off
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>>87802219
The point?
Successfully making the company money would be ultimately it.
The motifs of the show are mostly self-image and expectations, rebellion and reconciliation embedded in themes of love and family grouped around the main character's development.
Looking over it all, the show kinda forms guidelines of how to human condition in terms that children are supposed to pick up on, at least on a subconscious level.
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>>87802143
SU doesn't give you good vibes? The show is so optimistic it gets kind of annoying.
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>>87802177
think you missed the point of the show
maybe go watch something else.
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>>87802669
>Self image and expectations
The things is no one actually PROGRESSES in this show.
They develop but they just eventually relapse to their old ways through a different method.
That's realistic, but heavily boring. Especially when Pearl and Amethyst have gone over their demons....THREE TIMES now?
8ish if we're counting every time they fucked up.

Like how Bojack tends to end up a bit masturbatory about the philosophy when Bojack by the 2nd season's end was at the breaking point of having a positive purpose, but the third thematically does the same exact thing.
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>>87800789
t. butthurt lorefag
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>>87800664
>Missing the point this hard
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>>87802860
>Who is Lapis Lazuli
>Who is Peridot
>Who is Garnet
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>>87802860
You are misinformed.
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>>87800200
The lore shows us what they've been through, while the "comfy" aspects show us the life they fought for

I think both halves are necessary. Without knowing what the hell the gems did, we wouldn't appreciate when they just get to have some time to themselves.
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>>87802921
> Terrible example
> Excellent example
> Great example
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>>87800683

Cloaca
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>>87802960
this
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>>87800200
Cartoons were a mistake
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>>87803185
anon was a mistake
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>>87800200
pearl a qt
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>>87802860
They have precisely not gotten over it.
They have dragged their baggage around a long time and they are pretty much chipping away at aspects of it.
Pearl has been coming to terms with her ill-fated love for Rose, her self-worth as a Pearl and her relationship with Greg.
Amethyst has been struggling to find a meaningful identity and purpose for herself and fallen woefully short when she found one.
Just like Peridot and Lapis, they keep developing and working on their issues.
They don't have easily resolved problems and the show incorporates these problems as part of the characters, not just one-off plot devices.
And they have made headway.
Peridot has learned the value of life, discovered meaning beyond her function and made friends. She still has a ways to go before she stops being unable to pick up on the mood with a fork lift or otherwise read emotions and react to them.
Lapis has begun to learn trust again, but continues to struggle with guilt and 6k years of abandonment.
And you better believe that Jasper's arc of dealing with her self-hatred and trauma is coming in hot now.
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>>87803789
>And you better believe that Jasper's arc of dealing with her self-hatred and trauma is coming in hot now.
I just hope we don't have to suffer through too many episodes before we get that
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>>87803909
>suffer through

don't watch the SOL episodes if you don't want
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>>87800200
>I feel like the people who say the show is comfy are almost more in tune with the point of it.

...so, I guess the more serious plot involving the war, alien invasion and whatnot isn't the important part. The importance, is that it's comfy.
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>>87804553
Oy Oy, I'm fine with Slice of Life man, but when it's just the townies and not the gems, it's rough is all
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>>87800677
Steven shouldn't be having that pizza, he needs a fucking diet. Or else he needs to diet minus the t.

I HATE HIM.
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>>87804675
exactly.
10/10 reading comprehend


>>87804710
you have to be 18 to post here bro
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I like to think about what it would be like if I wore my shirt backwards and inside out at the same time.
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>>87804861
might be uncomfortable
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>>87800200
Doesn't matter; this show will never exceed a 5/10 rating anyway.
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>>87804767

I'm starting to think that this shill is actually Sugar or his cucky boyfriend.
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>>87800200
>CUTE GEMS DOING CUTE THINGS

This was always the point of the show
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>>87805388
>"everyone who doesn't agree with me, is the enemy"

sounding a bit like a liberal cuck yourself there buddy
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>>87805388
>>87805448
>SHILLLL CUCCKKK REEEE

>>>/pol/
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>>87805067
how contrarian of you
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>>87805416

Man, I kind of wish it was made more blatant, since I felt like they were just cock teasing us whenever Jasper showed up, or other gems were around, or anything about the war is mentioned; they gave us some sort of expectation that more important or serious/important things were going to happen, instead of cute gems doing cute things. And I'm not even talking about the newer episodes or even Jailbreak; it felt like this show would be a bit more heavy/not just comfy, because of lasor light canon, catfingers and so many birthdays.
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>>87805790
>no plot even happens until half way through the first season

how much more blatant can you get?
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>>87800785
Only Tumblr hated it because muh muhsoggyknees
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>>87800200
>fans waiting for Yellow Diamond and an invasion force to return to Earth
>it never happens and is explained as "Earth is beneath the Gem Empire"
kek
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>>87800200
>Sugar makes comfy show for good times with cute characters and uplifting themes

>edgelords shit themselves with rage because it's not a never-ending parade of misery and angst and death
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>>87800200
>Rebecca says show is supposed to be feelgood
>"LOREFAGS BTFO LORE IS USELESS"
How about not thinking by extremes?
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>>87811347
That's because we can't empathize with happiness, anon. We know not of it.
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>>87811347
Oh, fuck off with that cop-out shit. If she wanted a simple, comfy feelgood show she should have made something like Clarence. You don't get to reveal all this amazing, intriguing backstory and then neglect it like it doesn't matter. That's called being a fucking hack.
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>>87813369
but it's a complex feel-good show with a complex backstory and occasional drama
what's wrong with that?
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>>87812816

Where do you think you are?
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>>87812816
>LORE IS USELESS
who the hell ever said that
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>>87800200
Welp I'm dropping SU. These previous 15 episodes or so have been too boring and the plot lines are almost worse than Adventure Time. Nothing gets finished, just pushed to the backburner. What a joke. Also, there are better shows worthy of being called comfy. This is lifeless if anything, static characters, unfunny meme-like monotone humor, all the same shit that killed AT. Too bad too. It's first two seasons were going pretty good. Then it got lazy.
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>>87814962
Good riddance, lorecuck
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>>87815028
Good riddance to /sug/ fags once it goes on to become shit like AT.
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>>87814962
Bye bye pessimist
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>>87800200
>People who enjoy the most interesting part of the show are idiots
Fuck you Sugar, this is just a bullshit excuse to justify the shitfest that is season 4
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>>87802219
Relationships

that was confirmed a long time ago
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>>87815203
The plot definitely isn't the most interesting part of the show though.
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>>87801770
that's what i've been doing
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>>87815234
What is then?
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>>87815260
The characters are.
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I'm fine with not every episode being lore-centric.

But would it kill them to actually make the show funny?
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>>87804710
>he's never heard of the pizza diet
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>>87815433
>But would it kill them to actually make the show funny?
yes
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>>87815051
>i-i-it'll fail! Just you wait!!

You said it in 2013, you said it in 2014, you said it in 2015, you'll say it again.
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>>87815433
but it is funny
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>>87815203
>are idiots
nice strawman there mate

actually read the article before you comment next time
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>>87815752
Only a handful of episodes. Most of them season 1.

I do think Know Your Fusion and Kindergarten Kid were decently funny though.
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>>87800995
You have plenty of options anon. Don't let SU preventing you from going to another fandom you would enjoy more. Go anon, this is your chance.
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>>87815764
>strawman
Fuck off Reddit
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>>87804675
Finally. Someone who understands!
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Well, that explains why the space opera stuff is so stock. But the show needs more Nanefua.
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>>87815295

Clarence secundary characters are more enjoyble and developed than Steven.
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>>87815796
True, Season 1 did comedy way better.

Season 2 and 4 barring Peridot who was actually legitimately funny felt like it was written by fanfic writers in terms of comedy

Season 3 had the Season 1 charm
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>>87816077
>Peridot who was actually legitimately funny
Peridot is just a dumb meme character who spouts catchphrases
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>>87800200
It's not that I dislike the series, but... I do call it Shit Universe. The characters are nice, and the plot is interesting, alongside all the break of the social norms, but the mind-boggling slow pacing of the show keeps me from fully enjoying it. We're back to Season 1, where out of 5 episodes, 1 is for story development. Sometimes I feel this show is nothing but a waste of Rebecca's talent. But here's hoping things can change.
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>>87816009
Go to a Clarence thread, then.
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>>87816287
>It's not that I dislike the series, but... I do call it Shit Universe
You are a retard
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>>87815598
its already failing. Ratings have been dropping since the fucking watermelon island episode.
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>>87805388
>or his cucky boyfriend.
Wait Rebecca is cheating on Ian? With who? Since when?
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>>87802203
The thing after all that happened we can't go back to episodes about LITERAL autists
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>>87816354
and of course you won't have source so why would i even bother asking
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> I’ve always had the plans for the long-term story. Really, after [the Season 1 finale] “Jail Break,” it’s the show. Up until then, people hadn’t seen the show.
Doesn't that basically confirm Lorefags?
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>>87816345
Oh? Heh. You mad cuz I have an opinion? Gee, Anon, don't make me embarrassed.
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>>87800200
And yet. The slice of episodes are bad. I'm not sure how they've done it either. I normally like slice of life.

How do they do it co?
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>>87816599
I don't know, I enjoy those slice of life episodes.
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>>87816616
I told myself I wouldn't laugh over people calling her a Jewish boy... But Goddammit, she looked so beautiful with longer hair.
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>>87816287
>Rebecca's talent
ho ho ho
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>>87816599
>How do they do it co?
By catering to people with different taste than yours?
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>>87800200
HAHAHA GET FUCKED LOREKEKS
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>>87816287
>ut the mind-boggling slow pacing of the show keeps me from fully enjoying it.
You can blame CN for that.

It wouldn't be an issue if we actually had one episode a week.

I mean, this show could basically run each season one episode a week for each years and we wouldn't have a single hiatus.
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>>87815433
I think you hit the nail on the head there. It's been bothering me lately how come I've been bored throughout all these recent filler episodes when I really enjoyed a lot of Season 1's fluff.

It's just not fun anymore. I can't even remember a single funny joke from this season that wasn't more than an offhanded chuckle. I haven't had a good laugh since Back to the Moon. The worst part is, it's not even presented as "comfy"; the recent episodes just play out as a bunch of stuff that just happens, and an unsubtle on-the-nose message slapped at the end.
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>We’re still doing Season 1-style things now, but they get to be mixed in with the conclusions of stories we started earlier. It’s fun. I feel like the thing that I’ve learned from doing it is finding the one thing that I want something to be about, and then having all those elements support it. With those early episodes, there’s so much we wanted to plant that some of them are just seed gardens of future episodes. [Laughs] Now we’re tending a garden, which is really rewarding — but also really challenging.
How is it making lore-fans btfo? she is bascially conforming lots of lores brewing.
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>>87816567
>I don't dislike the show, I just call it shit
That's you
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>>87816910
C'mon, Anon, there are times you'll be willing to offend something you like. You don't need to play the perfect perfecto to me.
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>>87801327
It's an example of intersectional feminist reasoning.
You see, under that particular ideology, feminism can't be just about women, because white women aren't oppressed in the same way or to the same degree as black women or trans women or whoever.
All civil rights movements must preach the gospel of the Victim Heirarchy, where anyone below you is oppressed and anyone above you is privileged (but wealth doesn't factor into victim points at all, so the son of a multimillionaire CEO is still practically a slave because he's black), or else they are by default erasing the more oppressed groups.
There was a gay pride parade recently that got mobbed to a halt by Black Lives Matter protestors, because the parade did not specifically draw attention to the greater oppression of black gays, therefore it was considered a white supremacist gay pride parade by the Victim Heirarchy. This is intersectionality in action.
The screenshot demonstrates the conclusions derived from intersectionality. Muslim terrorists are doing bad things, but they are considered an extremely oppressed group, so it can't possibly be their fault and it would be racist (because intersectionality classifies Islam as a race) to ask them to change. It must be the toxic masculinity of AMERICAN culture that made them do this. Everything you don't like is a conspiracy of straight cis white men, including accidents of nature and your own personal choices. Every other group can shift the blame up a step of the Victim Heirarchy until it reaches the top.
I do not believe any of that, I'm just explaining how intersectional feminism works.
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>>87816970
In other words, all boils down to pointing the finger. Seriously, guys, there isn't a perfect choice, just the most acceptable ones. Instead of bashing each other, why not work together? Why not work for something that everyone is part of, instead of asking for a respect that is already yours by proxy? So a bunch of people dislike you because of a certain characteristic? You can't please everyone, nobody can. There are limits to that, but the world doesn't need to love you. Stick by the few people that are important to you, and vice versa. Rather than preach fear, why not love? Increase the chain, but not for the sake of respect, but for the sake of mutual understanding.
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I'm really glad now I dropped this show when it bored me to tears in the early second season...
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I don't mind SoL but they've been handling it poorly lately, in both pacing (even without the hiatuses) and content. The corrupt gems, Steven's new doubts, Homeworld probably preparing another response after so many went missing... after all that heavy shit a breather is expected and needed, but its dragged on for so long without even mentioning those issues that its not really feeling like a breather anymore, it feels like they just forgot or live in a different timeline.

And the breather episodes aren't even that good. I remember what I liked as a kid and if this season is all I had to judge the show by I probably would've started changing the channel whenever it came on.
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>>87815806
>"oh no he uses actual logic!"
>"better just call him reddit, that'll show him
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>>87816970
>>87817083
and this has what to do with Steven Universe?
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>>87800200
>caring about lore
>care about the lore of lesbian space rocks.
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>>87817700
Hmph, Anon, enjoy what life has to offer to you. Even here, things don't have to follow the rules. Dismiss small opportunities, and you might lose a important clue for the future. Aside from that, those themes are somewhat tied to the cartoon, if loosely. But they still significant by their own regards. Not everything has do to with a boy living with sentient rocks.
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>>87800200
I've watched it, i enjoyed it. As always this place is overreacting. Bunch of idiots.
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>>87817962
Calling others idiots is also an overreaction. Watch yourself for imprudence, then maybe you'll get the inexistent right to "point the finger".
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>>87815433
>>87816753
It's the exact same show, you just got too used to it.
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>>87816753
meh.
The show was never laugh-out-loud hilarious,
It was always honestly just cute and comfy and it still is
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>>87818012
wtf man
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>>87800200
>comfy
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>>87816616
yes.
That is Rebecca Sugar.

Great Google skills bro
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>>87819319
Frybo and, to a lesser extent, Too Many Birthdays were pretty great. And while not outright comedic, earlier episodes had certainly more and better one-off gags.
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