Endtown 11-18-16

>>87764488
HOLLYFAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH

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>>87764488
I want off this ride.

Holy shit, what if Holly is dead?

Holy shit, what if WE'RE dead?!

>>87764488
the real holly died back at endtown

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>>87764488

He better not still be in the ditto's illusion

>>87765102
he's still on Marx's ship

>>87765112
I hate it when I'm right.

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>>87764488

>Tradition

>>87764488
Well this was predicted... in just about every recent thread, come to think of it. Also strongly hinted at by the misplaced focus on Kirbee in the previous page.

The clone seems self-aware, though... think this is the consciousness Wally was talking to before? The waitress who mentioned "Management"? Some sub-community of dittos?

... I wonder if this means Aaron's given up on Christmas in Endtown? Doesn't seem like there's going to be any time left for that...

>>87765279
His infection probably killed any chance of this. He is like 2 weeks behind schedule.

Did we just get two in one day? Is it christmas already?

>>87765313
This is just Fridays update, really early.

>>87765295
Might be a silver lining, it felt like he was rushing the conclusion after overextending the flashback anyway.

What just happened is so in line with predictions that I can't help but wonder if he didn't just read what people were saying and say "Sure, why not?"

In before the ditto-clone sticks around as a new character.

>>87765102
I doubt that.
Why would Kirbee reaction be sadness in the last update? That means she and Chicago are real at least. Plus Wally can sense dittos, so I doubt this is an illusion. The real question is, did Aaron really kill off Holly. The butthurt would be epic if he did.

>>87765406
>Chicago

/r/equesting Chic dressed as the entire city of Chicago.

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>>87765406
>Chicago

>>87764488
>>87765389
>New clone isn't just a decoy, it's an attempt to "trade" Wally an ideal version of Holly for the broken real thing
>The clone has all of Holly's memories, unusual for a ditto duplicate
>Wally rescues Holly anyway, possibly over her own protestations, because leaving her would be wrong, even if it turns out the computer's being nice to her and giving her a simulation of her baby and husband to live in (because it starves people to death, and Wally won't let Holly live a lie)
>The clone is on course to develop severe identity issues anyway, but they'll be exacerbated by the presence of the real Holly
>Conflict and coming to terms with her idealised self eventually heals Holly and helps her clone find its own identity (that or one of them kills/sacrifices herself and leaves us with a single Holly, real or cloned)

>>87765406
The computer doesn't kill people immediately, it stores them in simulation cocoons and uses them as batteries. The real Holly is likely still alive.

>>87765654
>Wally rescues Holly anyway,

as wacky as your theory is, the first two lines are more likely to happen than this...

>>87765654
What is this? Fallout 4?

>>87765681
If Aaron just has Wally turn his back on Holly and walk away, I think a lot of readers might jump ship...

>>87764488

I see a lot of people suggesting that this development, or that she is a clone, is new.

What if she's been a Ditto construction as far back as the Milk Trial arc? Before? What if she actually died in custody and was replaced by Marx himself?

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>>87765733

Had to dig up the panel that made me think that was the case:

>blocks computer's illusions
>Holly solidly passes through it

I know there could be an excuse that Wally let her in because he wanted to believe so badly but I think this twist makes a lot of sense too.

Her being obsessed with Clive being a person makes more sense if she was like an AI herself.

>>87764488
He guessed wrong. She's going to be upset with him.

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I mean... I'm not a Hollyfag. If anything I love Kirbee more. But I also appreciated that Wally and Holly were the best couple, even despite recent outbreaks.

If Aaron is letting Holly get written off... I'mma be super sad, guys.

>>87765261
Why isn't this ever the OP image in the first place?

>>87765733
>>87765875
Why'd Wally never sense her as being dittos, then, if he can sense them? I think he just made a hole in the bubble because it's a solid thing and he didn't want (the being he perceived as) Holly to smash her face in.

I like Holly, I hope she'll be okay.

>>87765962
I hope whatever makes the story more interesting happens

I just want to see Wally struggling trying to fug Kirbee due to his size.

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>>87764488
>Christmas in Endtown is going to be in a fictional Endtown with Holly and Cat!Lynn
>Everyone's happy. and giddy
>Wally ruins it for everyone to break the illusion
>Because Wally can't leave another woman he cares about behind
Calling it now.

>>87766069
Don't forget Junior, who will finally get a name...

>InB4 Holly with a stroller full of goldfish bowl

>>87766069
>We'll know when Holly's healed because she'll be capable of forgiving him for ripping her out of the comfy illusion

>>87765920
It's an ancient meme

>>87764488
At this point I just want an explanation. Why would there be a decoy Holly? Why couldn't they find the real one? If she is a decoy, how could she survive in the "Bad Dittos go fuck yourselves" bubble?

>>87764488
I knew there was something more to how obsessed the computer was with the idea of Holly's husband. Is she cooperating with the machine?

And holly shito temple, what a dramatic development this would be if Holly really chose the safr fantasy world over Wally's post apocalyptic wanderlust.

>>87765716

I would worry that it would be Aaron's Rickenbacker Falls moment... killing off a character for whatever reason only to find that a whole slew of people were big fans and not as interested in his stuff without that character. Would be especially troubling since the size of his tiny readership is directly connected to his cash flow and therefore his health.

Really hope he's not trying to have his cake and eat it too by trying to frame this event as Holly's healing (having written himself into another corner). I think a lot of people would probably reject that, especially if it comes with some kind of Marxy garbage like her soul being split neurotronically and the real version getting the "sick" half with Flask-esque soul-cancer. I know I'd prefer to see the real Holly recovering via character development...

>>87766238
Maybe real Holly send out the decoy to kick Wally out. And for all we know Wally was momentarily tricked into letting Decolly thru the bubble.

Maybe Holly saw that flying kiss.

>>87766238
>If she is a decoy, how could she survive in the "Bad Dittos go fuck yourselves" bubble?
It was more of a solid barrier than anything, I think. Looks like Wally opened a Holly-shaped hole because he wanted her to come to him.

>>87766281
What is she's controlling the machine, and every time it starts to think it's Lyn, it's because it's been ordered to think like that by its captain?

Turning Holly into the villain of her own arc while simultaneously having her still being the person who has to be rescued (from herself, now) would kind of fit the concept of mad people being their own worst enemies...

>>87765922

He hadn't sensed the bullshit of his ditto imprisonment until horrorLynn was nearly eating a fake Chic, fake Kirbee, and himself. It's likely a very advanced ditto illusion would bypass his notice. Given we still don't know everything about dittos it could be possible she's been a decoy for a long time.

Whether this was a longterm issue or whether this was a quick shell game swap we'll probably discover in the next strip so right now it's just wild speculation.

>>87766293
It isn't about healing.

There is precedent that Holly and Wally have incompatible points of view about the post-apocalyptic world. Wally has wanderlust and Holly thinks the world is ruined.

Holly lost Endtown and is now offered a safe fantasy world of her own. I could see why that would tempt her more than going back to Endtown, wandering the wastelands, or taking a risk by relying on another hidden town.

>>87766414
>>He hadn't sensed the bullshit of his ditto imprisonment until horrorLynn was nearly eating a fake Chic, fake Kirbee, and himself. It's likely a very advanced ditto illusion would bypass his notice. Given we still don't know everything about dittos it could be possible she's been a decoy for a long time.

To be fair, that was when he was entirely surrounded by dittos (as he mentioned when he first went through the "portal"), as was the situation in the illusion when he was collecting the fake Holly. It's reasonable to suspect that being surrounded by that much ditto mass jams his senses somewhat. When he's not surrounded by so many dittos I would expect him to detect a ditto Holly the way he apparently just did.

>>87766419

Sorry, by "frame this event as healing" I was referring to either making a mentally-healthy clone of her and treating that as a healed Holly or framing a potential and completely hypothetical soul-healing-kiss 2.0 as the end point of her current arc and her "healing", with the plot seeing the healthy part of Holly's soul shoved into a ditto shell and her real body left with the bad part to succumb to mind-cancer or starvation while the computer feeds off of it. To be fair, I doubt Aaron would go that route, but after the Flask stuff that kind of plot twist is always there as a possibility. I wasn't talking about a comfortable lie being made to seem like a healing thing, sorry for not being clear.

As for the points of view thing, I'd hope they could learn to see things from each other's.

>Holly lost Endtown and is now offered a safe fantasy world of her own. I could see why that would tempt her more than going back to Endtown, wandering the wastelands, or taking a risk by relying on another hidden town.

I actually hope this and "Wally Ruins Christmas" are the way the plot goes. Feels much more interesting. I'd hope he wouldn't leave her there to be drained to death, and as mentioned her forgiveness would make a good marker for the return of her sanity.

>>87765733
>This is Aaron's way out of the frequent accusations of "Holly's treatment is Marx's fault"
>Holly didn't die in custody, though, she's been Marx's sidekick in other dimensions the whole time because he knew exposing her to that treatment would ruin her, but he still needed a Holly at the milk trial for the Long Game
>Also because he finds the idea of a mousegirl sidekick really funny and cute
>Holly comes back with her mind completely fixed... by Marx

>>87764488
I want to get off Lyn's Wild Ride.

>>87764488
fucking brutal

>>87765733
Clive scanned her and decided she was an anthro with a recently healed arm, and we know the plasti-brain transports are really good at detecting dittos, so if she was replaced it happened after that.

>>87764488
>>fake!Holly sad that he realized the illusion
Oh shit, Holly's already dead and her personality is part of the ship now. Calling it.

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>>87764488
I want off this ride

>>87767503
I don't think it works that way. It's explicitly stated to be using people as batteries (unless all that admittedly dubious stuff about being powered by emotions was a line of bullshit it was feeding Wally). Apart from that, the only "other personality" we've seen it exhibit so far was Lyn's, and he's been dead for years.

>>87767552
Your thoughts are irrelevant. Only the events unfolding in the comic can prove/disprove it.

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Drawfags, your path is clear.

>fake ditto Holly decoy
>Wally knew all along
>cut his losses to save Kirbee, Chic, and Irving

All I can tell you is next week's updates are not going to make you smile

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>Wally never rescued Holly from Unity
>rescued Molly instead
>Molly nine kinds of crazy

Oh Aaron!

>>87768769
KC?

Do you get plot a week in advance or something?

>>87768769
This is Endtown.
Why would people expect anything happy to happen?
Also I said months ago, it would be a hell of a twist if Aaron killed off Holly or Wally.......or even bother of them. Aaron has said that the comic has no true protagonist, and he writes for them until he feels like their story is truly over. If he thinks that Wally and Holly story is done, I could see him possibly killing them off.

>>87768840
Reminder that Aaron himself thinks the comic is too depressing.

>>87768833
Aaron asks us to consider the fact that he's shown us three suicide attempts by Holly, and alluded to several more. But remember when all of this is done; this is ALWAYS how it was going to end.

>>87766395
Hi Aaron!

>>87768920
I believe him when he says she was damaged from day one, I don't think she was supposed to be this damaged. That seemed to suddenly get worse after Aaron himself got ill halfway through Unity.

Also... sorry, but "writes them until he feels their story is truly over" kinda conflicts with the implied pre-planning of "it was always gonna end this way". I think he has a main game plan, mostly involving the background story and Marx, but he's said himself his writing is very flexible and I suspect it's become even moreso since his illness wiped out his buffer... Kirbee, for instance, wasn't even going to be a main character.

>>87768840
>Why would people expect anything happy to happen?

'cos we'd like Aaron to surprise us for once, lately.

>>87768959
You need to think of things in terms of narrative blocks; all that's important is that all of the proper parts are in the right place at the end. Doesn't matter how you get there...

>>87769012
The problem with that is I think the ends he has planned relate to the setting as a whole, not the characters, which seem more freeform.

>>87768999
Nope!

>>87768959
There's also the feeling that he cut quite a bit out of this arc, such as Pep Cola Stadium and Kirbee's flashback (and name).

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>>87769041

>>87769047
As I understand it, if we see the Pep Cola story, it'll be a Walt memory when we're back in Endtown.

>>87769079
I hope so. It really seemed like it would have fit into Holly and Doc's story but for the fact that it would have overextended the arc - feels like Aaron saw that that was going to happen and cut it out because the plot was already dragging like a jet covered in christmas trees.

>>87768920
>Allie
>Flask
>Holly

>Aaron doesn't think broken people can ever get better without magical help from Marx's kissy-lips

>Aaron also knows the blowback is going to be so bad he's likely to lose fans on /co/ unless KC can be sent in to prime them first by spoiling the plot

>>87769211
Aaron has not and does not endorse any of my trolling... much.

>>87769238
>KC is worried that Aaron's gonna get a backlash

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>>87769273

>>87769273
That or he's deliberately misleading in order to give Aaron a chance at an actual surprise.

>>87768769
>All I can tell you is next week's updates are not going to make you smile
>next week's updates

InB4 Aaron gives us a bait-and switch where it looks like Wally is abandoning her all week, then he turns around the Monday after, says fuck it, and goes in, dittos blazing.

>>87769260

>gocomics readers

what do you expect?

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>>87769394
>then he turns around the Monday after, says fuck it, and goes in, dittos blazing.

Anon...

>>87769420
>complains that he's made his own comic too dark
>does what KC's implying he's going to do

Man's got an addiction.

>>87764488
>Kirbee fags get btfo
>very next page Hollyfags get equally btfo
Aaron's just fucking with us isn't he?

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>>87769586
Oh, I dunno...

>>87769586
>equally btfo

Holly's gone, so no... if anythings hollyfags got obliterated

>>87769591

Kc, you seem to know the story ahead of most of us, tell us... are Kirbee and wally Fuggin at the end?

>>87769012
>narrative blocks

That just sounds like another way of saying "I tried arguing with him when I found out about it, but Aaron is stubborn as hell"

Somebody get the man a chisel.

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>How does it feel to get utterly BTFO

I dunno. You tell us.

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>>87769601

>>87769623

i will take that as a yes

>>87768840
I doubt he'll kill Wally off. Too much narrative backed up behind his mysterious "duty" and his burgeoning ditto powers.

Killing Holly would be... questionable, but with the writing quality lately and the way I get the impression he's tired of her (or at least the crazy version of her), I could see it happening.

>>87769623
Wally will always get cucked by cream gravy as far as Kirbee is concerned.

>>87769653
OTP

>>87768769
>He got them out of there to save them
>Gives them his dittos, tells the dittos to get them back to Endtown come hell or high water
>"I believe in you, Kirbee!"
>Last thing we see in this arc is Wally walking back into the ship, dittoless, intending to steal enough dittos to fight the computer for Holly or die trying
>Christmas Time!

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>>87769686
Anon...

>>87765041

Top kek anon. That's perfect.

So did Aaron give you the go-ahead on plot spoilers, or are there going to be Words later?

>>87769738
Dammit, intended for >>87769711

>>87769738
I'm presenting nothing he hasn't already set up.

>>87769754
So you don't actually know, you just really really strongly suspect.

>>87769738
Go back and read the arc CAREFULLY and without preconceived notions (i.e. shipping) and you'll see it. It was always there.

>>87769782
Do you, or do you not, know?

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>>87769766

>>87769782

I remember her looking over the side of the ship, which definitely echoes the clock tower.

I also see a setup for giant ditto hands saving people's lives, though, so... *shrug*.

I can see next Friday being a mouse in freefall.

>>87766293

Endtown since the beginning is a story of broken people. There 'shouldn't' be any 'protected' characters.

>>87769789

Of course he knows, he's probably got all the main plot points, he likes to hint enough. Why'd you think he hitched his wagon to Kirbee?

>>87769823

Honestly, Kirbee looks pretty protected, which makes sense, really, since she seems to be some kind of mental health totem for Aaron.

I hope Marx bites it, though.

If I get some free time,
I might post the entire
post Unity arc this weekend
as a refresher.

>>87769852
Days in desert heat
Then they find a tall dark ship
Much misery then

>>87769823

Doyle thought that too.

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>>87769845
>Why'd you think he hitched his wagon to Kirbee?

Most of the Kirbee drawing are requests from Aaron or gags based on a specific update. I've given Holly PLENTY of love.

>>87769947
>tumblr name is kirbeefan1
+
>Aaron waifus Kirbee hard but deflects with Maude

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>>87769966

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>>87769947
And plenty of other side characters too.

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>>87769966

>Aaron turns Kirbee into a hambeast

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>>87770032

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yknow what I don't even get what the deal is with this comic and why /co/ loves it so much

it just seems like edgy dark shit for furries with the gimmick being tone whiplash

>>87770032
I doubt he would.

>>87770000

>>87769966
>>Aaron waifus Kirbee hard but deflects with Maude

Definitely get that impression lately, especially since the thing where he held her up as his little ray of sunshine. The change to drawing Kirbee art after ceasing to draw Holly art hints at it too. I think he wanted a happier end for Holly originally, probably before the comic settled into total darkness, but he kind of drifted away from her and found her more useful for reinforcing the comic's bleakness.

>>87770032
I swear she looks thiccer in the previous strip. Another hiatus-induced design change?

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>>87770092

>>87770098
>Another hiatus-induced design change?

There was one before that? Which character had a change? Holly?

>>87764488
>We made it off Namek.
>We need to go back to Namek immediately.

>>87770128
Holly definatly got bigger. Remember, she used to ride in Wally's backpack.

>>87770128
He heavily tweaked the proportions of the Unity lizards when he came back to drawing them.

Related but not the same, he drew Endtown differently after Wally and Holly came back to it via Marx-portal, IIRC. Different lamppost design and so on.

>>87770126
KC? Is that you? Tell us what you know!

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>>87770145

>>87770142
Or did Wally get smaller. Duh Duh Duhhhh.*dramatic music*

>>87770167

>The Incredible Shrinking Wally
>Wally small enough to ride Irving
>Kirbee carries him in her mouth
>Aaron reveals a new fetish

>>87770144
Checked. Also, yeah you're right. Personally I really liked the lizards with the short legs. They were cute and more tooney

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>>87770165

well, it's definitely nice to know what Kirbee Wally is officially a thing now.

>>87770098
I think he might have ruined the "inspiration value" of writing Holly for himself, at least in terms of romance and fun, when he drove a wedge between her and Wally and altered her personality for the worse, after which he probably just decided to repurpose her, possibly around the time Kirbee stepped into the picture.

I'll note that Kirbee vaguely resembles all the fun parts of Holly's personality as she was originally presented, back when she still appeared to be a little spot of brightness herself, which might be why Wally and Aaron both find her so appealing. He liked her so much she went from a bit character to the person who apparently has the most important lesson to teach Wally, which suggests that said lesson was originally going to come from Holly.

>>87770427
>he probably just decided to repurpose her, possibly around the time Kirbee stepped into the picture.

this was bound to happen, Kirbee or not...

>>87770427
>>87770440

This outcome was ALWAYS how this was going to end, Kirbee or not.

>>87770474
I can believe Aaron told you that, but then, I don't believe everything he says, personally.

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>>87770491
You are wise

>>87770511

Maude is best waifu though.

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Why can't anything nice happen in this comic? Just once?

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>>87770557

what do you mean? Kirbee and Wally are hooking up!

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>>87770557
Aaron seems to have difficulty writing endings with any measure of uplift. Recall that his solution to ending an entire comic two or three times before has been "kill everyone". I don't expect Endtown to be any different, come the end.

He can draw happy just fine, though.

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>>87770574

> those pics

>>87770574
I think a problem Aaron is going to run into is that a lot of people don't much care for Kirbee (he may be blind to this because of what she means to him and his tendency to ignore the downside of things) and will (or already do) see her as something being foisted on them.

>>87770133
Yeah I don't see Wally just accepting that Holly is somewhere still back there and leaving her there

Wonder if she's dead or not. Probably not.

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>>87769782
>>87769820
>When Holly ran through the ditto portal she also ran right off the ledge, inadvertently accomplishing what she'd tried to do before
>Aaron was predicted again... way back in April

>>87770752
Especially with his newfound ability to mass-steal dittos and his improved handle on the situation. Also thinking time.

>>87764488
Defend this, Hollyfags.
Too busy defeding best koala to try.

>>87770626
It's not just endings, it's the comic in general, and Aaron recognises this but can't conceive of any other solution at the moment than the stop-gap of questionable functionality that is Kirbee.

>>87769823
Not being protected from being or becoming broken is fine, I think the issue people are having is Aaron's apparent inability to show anyone healing from being severely broken without supernatural aid.

>>87770793
>That's what he meant by "depends on what you mean by 'in one piece'"

Anyone got that email for reference? I seem to have lost it...

>>87771239

Who did heal that you are meaning?

I hope it isn't Flask. I must point that Flask literally died in the current dimension.

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>>87771447
Right, and then Marx kissed her all better and took away the part of her that was broken.

... wait, you're not suggesting that's going to happen again with Holly, are you? Death and then a Marx kiss?

... pic related.

>>87771533

What I'm saying is that Flask 'technically' didn't heal. She is dead on the prime universe.

Now, I don't think Aaron will pull another Marx. But that was once a time situation which was possible to show reality bending. It's something that shouldn't be considered when talking about the current reality.

>>87771605
I was talking spiritually/mentally, not physically, anon. "Heal" is applicable in all those contexts. And I think it not being applicable without Holly being dead is either a cause for concern (because implications) or irrelevant because I was talking about Holly (and others) *not* healing.

>>87765433
>He had it coming
>He had it coming

>>87770626
Shout out to the fact that Holly lacks the bags under her eyes and her jagged tail curve in most of that art... the idea of them being healed, whole and together definitely held a strong appeal to Aaron at one point.

>>87769012
I bet you love telltale games
they're alright. Their older games had lots more effort though

>>87771766
So Injustice just completely ripped this off, huh?

>>87770808
Not only that, but Aaron's made it look like he'd go through anything the computer could throw at him like it was tissue paper.

>>87764488
So what does /co/ think?
All ditto fake?
Sentient ditto fake?
Ditto outer shell, other captured person filling?
Looks like fake Holly feels some shame.

>>87770626
Al and Gustine arc had a happy ending....well by Endtown standards.

>>87772305
>Ditto outer shell, other captured person filling?
Now that would be 10 times more fucked up at the end of the day

>>87766125
It's not, it only started when the number of phone posters went up and only they find it acceptable.

>the fake holly is made of dittoes
So what if Wally fucks her in the vag? Would it be oral at the same time considering how small the creepy alien things are?
Is this how they get a good dose of happy feelings?

>>87764488
Holly's resemblance to Hillary Rodham Clinton does her no favors.

>>87772468

>dittos give wally's dick electric charges
>nuts in seconds
>keeps ditto holly and ditches both real holly and kirbee

Your wife is dead.
Embrace it.

>>87772481
Dottie, Maude, Linda, and Kirbee are alive.
Holly is dying and Allie is long since dead, so you're kind of right. My first choice in waifu is already dead.

>>87764488
>Wally goes back in to save Holly.
>Tells the gang to go on without him.
>New adventure follows Kirbee, Chic, Irving, and a ditto version Holly.

>>87770793

>Just replace Holly with Kirbee

Done and done...

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>in Monday strip Holly will turn into Marx

>>87772305
Here's a new wrinkle, what if she's real but knows she's too headfucked and will bring Wally down if she sticks around.

>>87772305
Remote unit.

>"A decoy.. I suspected as much"
>"Not exactly."
>"What? I-"
>"Wally, you have to go. Go and leave me. I'm happy here, happy with Lyn."
>"But he's not-"
>"Just GO. Or I'll never forgive you."/"Just GO. You have others to take care of now."/"Just GO. You have someone else to love now, and I'm bad for you."
>Aaron lets Wally be convinced by Holly's words
>Even though he's just spent the last year or so drumming the point home that she's currently incapable of making rational decisions
>Even though there's no reason to believe anything the ditto Holly tells them (unless Wally suddenly gains some kind of ditto truth sense)
>Even though the ship has been shown to kill everyone it comes in contact with
>Even though Wally could probably beat it
>Wally watches as the ship lifts off under the power of Holly's emotions and vanishes into another dimension, the Holly-shaped dittos next to him losing form and joining his own herd
>Aaron spends the rest of the strip's run insisting in emails that Wally knew Holly could never be mended enough to forgive him for pulling her out of her fake life, a-la Allie inevitably being an awful partner, and/or that Holly was somehow rational enough to decide that she was a burden and that Wally was prepared to accept that, somehow
>A large portion of the fanbase never believes him, being quite certain he just got tired of Holly in favour of Kirbee as well as being suspicious that he even cut her farewell short in order to get back to Endtown on time, and always nurses some resentment over the issue.
>Aaron loses enough Patreon followers to hurt, but not to put him off making the comic
>Kirbee doesn't work out as well as Aaron was hoping and eventually disappears from the comic in a slightly more graceful fashion a year or two down the road, possibly in favour of yet another new girl

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>>87775093
>>Kirbee doesn't work out as well as Aaron was hoping and eventually disappears from the comic

>>87775093
This, but Holly "jumps" the ship suddenly with just the words "I'm sorry" and Wally spends several arcs being told that Holly is out of reach and probably dead, before finally meeting Marx again and browbeating the interdimensional dipwad into taking him to Holly for a confrontation.

Turns out Holly has left the illusion and used the ship to reinvent herself as a successful Scrap Pirate Queen, or something. They've grown apart, and can no longer love one another the way they did, but Wally is happy to see that she's back to sanity now, at least, and more or less happy. She later returns once or twice as an ally, the cutest swashbuckler ever.

>>87775344
Flavour of the arc.

Bets on the species of the next girl?

>>87772364
That was years ago. I think he's lost the knack from disuse.

>>87772364
Betting Al has been lynched by the next time we see Endtown. At the very least he's been run outta town.
Speaking of Endtown, wonder if they're going to explore Jacob's whole philosophy of embracing your animal nature backfiring when predators start turning on prey animals like him.

>>87772305
Either sapient dittos (the Waitress) or >>87775093's remote idea, and it/she tells Wally that Holly just needed them to be far enough away from the ship that they couldn't interfere.

Holly was in control since she ran through the ditto-door and was guided into the control room. Wally wasn't the ship's captain, as it told him, but Holly was.

Everything they've seen has been a combination of Holly explaining herself to Wally (and Aaron trying somewhat desperately to make her look irreversibly traumatised - hence the way he kept piling it on long after you'd think a sensible writer would have stopped) and her telling the ship to find a way to scare Wally and the others away so she can do what she wants to do.

Aaron has been loading the dice and stacking the deck against Wally for the next scene because he wants Holly gone and he wants to pre-empt any complaints (he won't, though - people will wonder, for instance, why she was in suicide-mode while being lucid enough to concoct such a plan, since the only other times we've seen her being suicidal she's been completely off her head).

Holly gives a short speech via the dittos about being a danger to Wally and being in too much pain to go on, and then jumps from the stern of the ship and impacts the dust at terminal velocity before Wally can get there (or possibly Wally gets there just a little too late to catch her and accidentally slams her against the hull with his dittos, killing her like he did the teacher, as perhaps hinted by "I" - either way he will hate himself for not listening to "I" re: how she was going to die, believing for a long time that if he'd known he could have changed it, until he's set straight somehow by Marx).

Aaron gives her a repair/sendoff via Marx and the Afterlife, and we're expected to be satisfied with seeing her reincarnated alongside Lyn and her baby.

The last scene in the arc is a shot of the diminished group standing silently by a small grave in the shadow of the ship.

Holly is too cute to die.

:(

>"Wally can beat it!"
>"Wally has ditto power enough to beat the computer!"
>"Wally will fight that computer to the end!"

>Inb4 Aaron has Wally say he can't because reasons

>>87769411
The same level of autism as /co/sters.

>>87770023
I like to think it was Endtown that made you draw more varied things, and different poses.

>>87777810
*(not really addressing you, but the artist)

>>87775486
https://www.randomlists.com/random-animals

>Wheel of animals turn, turn, turn
>Show us the waifu for which we yearn

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>>87778406
I got a deer.

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Please, get me off of this thing!

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>>87774872
Just imagining that the strip on Monday cuts to Holly looking up to Wally with doeful, tearful eyes, and then suddenly her head turn to Marx with big, shit eating grin.

SURPRISE!

>>87778503
>Deresses into ditto cloud
>Blows away in the breeze

Reaction poll:

http://www.strawpoll.me/11682698

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>>87765875
What is that, a panel for ants?

If Hiro wasn't such a jew I'd suggest him to ban all phone posters.

>>87765716
no one cares

an author shouldnt give up his integrity and fuck his story up just because readers would be butthurt over the loss of their waifu

>>87779267
>*pre-emptive reaction to holly's death poll

>>87766238
Wally is a chronic bullshitter.

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2016:
>Trump wins
>Cubs win
>Harambe dies
>Presidential candidate declares war on meme frog

>>>Holly finally fucking dies
Best year

>>87769305
So he's pulling a Morbi?

>>87770491
I bet you've never dealt with a mentally unstable person, the red falgs were there but they just looked like flags (quirks) through rose-tinted glasses.

captcha: causeway medico

>>87770574
I haven't seen those by Jamil.

>>87780206
And you never will

>>87770700
clearly people dont like kirbee because you dont, and because you dont like kirbee, aaron can only be setting her up because he's blind to his fanbase and doesnt consider consequences of his actions

clearly

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>>87774872
What happens if it turns out to be Farx?

>>87770574
Could you dump all of them in the /trash/ thread, please?

>>87772514
>having a dead waifu
Hahahahahahahaha.

>>87779660
Moot himself said something like 60% of 4chan browses on smartphones. And that was several years aho, the number more than likely increased.

>>87780750
And that's why 4chan got worse.

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>>87779895

>>87779660
A bubble comprised of nothing but Wally's love for Kirbee!

>>87780858
Damn it Shon, every fucking time. Every fucking time, I think i can discard a waifu, you put her right back on my pedestal.

>>87780780
4chan has always been bad, and you know it.

>>87780179
I'd say red flags indicate instability, but I wouldn't say they foretell the future except in a medical sense. Recovery always felt like an option, even if it was going to be a long hard road with the first step being getting Holly back to Endtown over her own protestations and paranoia.

More to the point, mental health red flags indicate a complicating hazard or obstacle in the story, not a forgone conclusion. I mean, I'd give Aaron more credit than that.

>>87780976
Despite everything, I still love drawing Holly, I just don't get many requests for her these days.

>>87781082
Sad but hopeful Holly waving goodbye?

>>87781082
Holly backstage, celebrating her departure from the Endtown Comic?

Holly on the phone with her great uncle Jerry, letting him know that she's done with that "depressing wasteland comic"?

>>87781183
Screw that! Let's get all the drawfriends to do Holly art this weekend. Let's give Holly a vikings funeral!

>>87781359
AKUUUUNIIIIIIIIIIM...!

>>87780858
>no balloon boobs
>small /fit/ boobs instead
Amazing work of art.

>>87780995
It always felt to me like the big achievement in this arc was going to be getting everyone back to Endtown, albeit with Holly even more damaged, and then after the Christmas breakaway to focus on other characters we'd get an update on Wally and Holly after Wally had had some time to think about what to do and Holly had... well, probably been locked in a comfy room for a while. No ropelike objects, sharp implements or high places. Almost felt like Wally's next quest might have been the Quest for Lithium or something...

Huh, I just realized she spent two years up in the clocktower, when the trauma was still fresh, and she never jumped then (if she had tried and been caught she probably would have been forcibly and permanently removed from there and taken to hospital, like the time she actually jumped)... and it looked to me like she waited long enough for Wally to get within range to act, when she jumped before... always seemed like a cry for help.

>>87780256
Can't speak for others, but Wally, Holly and even Chic feel like real people, while Kirbee just... doesn't, for some reason.

>>87781560
It looks like a reference.

Don't forget this is the guy who drew a tall Dottie with an hourglass figure and a smaller snout at first.

>>87781657
This.
Even for someone who's supposed to be "happy-go-lucky", Kirbee is way too upbeat considering all of the fucked up shit she's seen.

>>87781657
She doesn't have that traumatic backstory or anything, comparing her to the others does make her seem like a kid even next to the actual kid

I like her okay, she's a good break from all the depressing shit that goes on in this comic

>>87781738
Her upbeat-ness feels weirdly forced, which makes some amount of sense if she's Aaron's little bit of "just keep swimming" that he put in the comic partially for his own sake, as one of his friends vouchsafed.

>>87781787
I don't even think she feels like a kid, she feels more like some sort of... I dunno, "construct".

I actually thought she might be something planted in Unity by Eye, specifically so she'd end up in the group.

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>>87781787
>She doesn't have that traumatic backstory
As far as we know but there's also pic related.

It's more about her having the right attitude. Or maybe she was just that detached from reality that she genuinely didn't care about anything as much as she's done recently.

>>87781802
>as one of his friends vouchsafed
I don't know if Aaron considers me a friend but he didn't tell me anything, I just guessed.

>>87781944
If there's any fairness in the world (or more accurately, Aaron's writing) the gentle caress of Post-Apocalyptia will be as an eroding sandstorm to the basalt of her soul, much as it was to Holly's.

Break the lizard, Aaron.

>>87781787
>She doesn't have that traumatic backstory or anything
We just saw her traumatic backstory.

>saw the dead bodies of her best friends, surrounded by the bodies of hundreds of dead, fertilized eggs (which may as well be babies)
>watched most of Unity and it's people burn to death at the hands of a schism-syndromed ex-topsider,
>saw her own tail get cut off by flaming rubble
>Watched not just one, but two civilizations come to a horrific end.
>Got cucked by a mouse

>>87782154
>>saw the dead bodies of her best friends, surrounded by the bodies of hundreds of dead, fertilized eggs (which may as well be babies)
Wait, weren't they fertilized eggs, but with the wrong time of animal inside them?

>>87782202
Jim murdered everything in the hatchery, including the baby lizard eggs

>>87782001
I'd say that guess was fairly accurate. It feels like an Aaron thing to do.

>>87764488
Turns out the real twist is Holly never left Endtown with him, the one with him was made of Ditto's all along, due to him wanting her to tag along with him subconsciously.

>>87782239
No, not Jim.

All the clues were there. Only a lizard could get into the nursery and attack the gals one by one.

>>87782326
>Dramatic piano chord

>>87782320
See >>87767267.

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>>87775427
>>87781359
Well, here's a space pirate Holly for reasons.

>>87782641
Would join her scurvy space-crew.

>>87782641
That's an incredibly generic retro-scifi costume. I love it.

>>87781901
I thought she was a side character that wasn't gonna amount to much, then reading here on /co/ that Aaron decided to keep her made sense, she felt like a one time deal at first. Kirbee grew on me though.

>>87781944
>>87782154
It's been awhile but wasn't it implied that mostly everyone in Unity kind of treat her like shit? She never understood they were making fun of her or giving her grunt work cause she was so dense.

Getting cucked by a suicidal mouse would hurt though.

>>87781657
She feels empty. Hollow.

>>87782746
>I thought she was a side character that wasn't gonna amount to much, then reading here on /co/ that Aaron decided to keep her made sense, she felt like a one time deal at first. Kirbee grew on me though.
Afraid I can't say the same for me. To me she still feels like a re-tooled side character at best. I won't say Aaron can't make her deeper, realer, but I don't know if he will because with the way he talks about her it sounds like he likes her exactly the way she is.

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>>87783132
Ironic, isn't it?

>>87783425
Deep.

Unlike Kirbee.

>>87783483
[insert a joke about Kirbee technically being deep here]

>>87765261
I don't get it.

>>87783917
OPs constantly post the mobile (small) version of the new page.

>>87783917
OP didn't post the full-sized page. It happened a lot at one point and some people insist it's a "tradition" to feel less retarded. Back then someone even claimed to do it on purpose because it guranteed replies.

It's obviously mobile posters racing to post first but not being capable of getting the full-size image from GoComics.

>>87780995
>Recovery always felt like an option, even if it was going to be a long hard road with the first step being getting Holly back to Endtown over her own protestations and paranoia.
Would have been more interesting to me than suicide.

>>87782239
Did he?
It was never proven it was Jim. I honestly still believe it was Sarah.

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Aaron don't you dare.

I will bully king cheeto if she's missing even a single whisker.

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>>87782326
The lizards had access to the nursery but maybe something could get in line a bug?

>>87784883
*like

>Aaron probably retconned the "Endtown Reality Spectrum" down from the multiple near-identical copies of Endtown he'd mentioned in emails to the single live world surrounded by dead ones to block fan-writers from bringing back Holly with an AU where she decides not to kill herself
>He'll probably have the ship self destruct with her aboard to be extra sure, too

>>87784844
Kek. Good one Akunim

>>87784844
Aku you're the best.

>>87784844
I approve this message.

>>87775486
>Flavour of the arc.

>Aaron keeps trying out new partners for Wally and then new pairings once the comic moves past Wally
>Never recaptures the lightning in a bottle that was Pre-Milk-Trial Wally and Holly

>>87779732
Yeah, I think Aaron can fuck his story up just fine on his own.

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>>87764488

>>87786440
I don't get the reference.

>>87787496
you have to be 18 to use this site anon.

>>87787544
But I'm 22.

So what are people's suspicions?

-Holly's alive on the ship but wants to be left alone with Lyn
-Holly's alive on the ship but Wally can't save her because reasons
-Holly's alive on the ship but she set this up to commit suicide without interruption
-Holly up and died from fear due to being a mouse
-Holly ran right off the ledge Wally stopped on as soon as she went through the invisible door
-Wally's wrong (again) and this is the real Holly, but she can't look him in the eye because the foundations of her identity have been rocked, she's been made to remember her past behaviour and she doesn't currently feel as though she's the Holly he loved, or worthy of that love (maybe she'll lie and say she's a decoy, then lie about the real Holly being dead, then the last thing we see is her "husband" calling her back inside the ship as the others leave... or maybe Holly about to jump off the top of the ship as the others walk away in the distance)

I can't say I feel confident that her death will be well written, if it comes to that.

This will all end with Kirbee leaving with a ditto copy of Wally and not realizing it.

>>87788303

Maybe Kirbee could consume Holly soul and become a hybrid.

>>87766025
Yes, that would be good.

To be fair I'm more worried about the lack of porn of cowgirl

>>87786140
Wally +1 is not what Endtown is about

>>87792216
Nobody said it was.

For the record, though, I think it being The Adventures of Wally and Holly was a bigger part of its appeal than Aaron thinks.

>>87792041
Maude?

Because you are right there isn't enough porn of her.

>>87793190
I think he recognises it to some extent, and Kirbee is at least partially his attempt to reclaim some of that after changing Holly's character for whatever reason. YMMV on whether it works. Feels very forced to me, unfortunately.

>>87793190
Is it?
I have grown tired of Wally and Holly. And can't wait for the story to switch back to Endtown, and feature Walt and Dottie.

>>87794538

Well, they did say "was", not "is".

>I have grown tired of Wally and Holly. And can't wait for the story to switch back to Endtown, and feature Walt and Dottie.

Dunno about anyone else, but I'm pretty much the opposite. I'm interested in seeing Holly claw back her identity and sanity and I'd like to see her patch things up with Wally (not saying it's going to happen, but it's where I'd prefer the comic went), even if they end up as friends and adventure-companions but not lovers.

I don't even particularly care for Endtown-the-place and I think The Great Waste and the other places within it have always been a far more interesting part of the comic.

Everyone bracing themselves for a patented Aaron Neathery Questionable Writing Moment™?

>>87793190
He doesn't care

>>87782075
>Break the lizard, Aaron.
This is Endtown anon, do you think there was a chance of anything else happening?

>>87795876
Okay, anon.

>>87796527
If nothing else, making Kirbee disintegrate similar to the way he's bought Holly to ruin in order to drive home how awful the wasteland is would throw some water on the accusations he's "abandoned" Holly in favour of Kirbee.

I'm pretty sure Aaron reads these threads, but does anyone else wonder if he ever anon-posts here?

>>87797924
he posted the legendary Kirbee cheesecake as an anon, this was a year ago.

>>87798076
Did he get his post deleted and a warning?