Lin-Manuel Miranda Working on Another Disney Movie

>>87736145

How is he a hack anon? Please explain.

I hope it's an inspector gadget movie.

>winner of a Pulitzer Prize, two Grammys, an Emmy, a MacArthur "Genius" Award, and three Tony awards
>creator of groundbreaking, universally-praised work of art that has shaken his field
>hack

>>87736307
Well yeah. He's not white.

LMM is godlike bro, actually a reason to care about Disney flicks

>>87736145
>this will get buried in the current storm of culture war politics and waifufaggotry

/co/ was a mistake

>>87736307
How do you win so many awards and still be a person that most people will go literally who upon hearing your name?

>>87736307
>>87736340

Do you guys notice shitposting is at a all time high recently?

>>87736406

Because he's not on TV or in Movies.

>>87736353
Moana's music sucks though.

>>87736406
>>87736340

>>87736406
A lot of people win major awards and aren't known. If you're not a hockey fan you won't know Carey Price, for example.

>>87736406
Because they're in fields most people don't know or care much about. How much do you know off the top of your head about Broadway, drama, or musical theater?

Disney has been very solid recently and Miranda is a talented man. I'm excited.

>>87736145
>the annoying hispanic faggot from House
Fuck no please

>>87736406
those in theater are generally not known by their name anon, not even in fucking new york. it's why broadway looks to recruit big name celebrities in their productions - the only way to fill the seats.

that said lin-manuel miranda is probably one of the most recognizable names on right now in general and he's not even in fucking Hamilton anymore as the lead. it's not surprising in the slightest that disney would commission him for a musical.

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>Hating Lin Manuel Miranda

>>87736787
It's the standard /co/ntrarianism. Miranda is really popular and praised right now, so some people think they can look interesting or smart by denying it.

>>87736145
>How do we stop him bros?

Why would we want to do that? Hamilton is awsome.

>He doesn't like the Hamilton.

Begging you to get taste OP.

I'm down with it.

Hamilton was good.

>tfw you'll never achieve your dreams
>tfw you'll never make a play (or comic book or story or whatever) in spite of all the people that looked down on you for not choosing a "more profitable" career
>tfw your play will never have world leaders, celebrities, people who have affected the future of the world, attend your play
why even live

>>87739085
Just chase that shot man

>>87739560
>tfw you're throwing it away

>>87736145
>Cool dude who considers Weird Al one of his biggest inspirations
>Makes a cool play that people like
>Doesn't go all crybaby faggot after Trump wins, preaches love and unity and all that good shit
>Generally just seems like a chill motherfucker
OP how did Lin Manuel hurt you.

>>87736145
He's the new director of Avengers: Infinity War and he's gonna turn it into a high concept musical

How would you react?

>>87739643
important question: will the leads all be played by black people and important secondary question: will three of those black people be Daveed Diggs, Leslie Odom Jr, and Christopher Jackson

>>87739685
I hope so man, I'd watch Daveed Diggs in anything.

>>87736145
We bury you up to your neck next to an ant hill and slather honey on your head.

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>>87736145
OP is a faggot. In the Heights was great and Hamilton is even better. Glad he's getting more opportunities to make music.

>>87739685
MFW

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>>87736457

Have you heard the Moana stuff?! I'm eagerly waiting for the soundtrack to drop!

>>87739685
I'm not seeing a down side.

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>>87736145
>tfw you are literally living through the next Stephen Sondheim's rise to greatness

>>87739643
With renewed faith in the goodness of people.

>>87739685
What would be the point otherwise?

Is he the new Howard Ashman? Will he save the Disney musical?

Just pair him with Alan Menken and watch the money come pouring in.

>>87740090
If he is this >>87740123 is bound to happen.

>>87736457
Seconding this thought; but also, I don't find anything about Lin-Manuel Miranda's songwriting to be fantastic. Nothing from In the Heights or Hamilton really made me go "Wow!". His lyrics are occasionally inspired, and his music is more often than not pedestrian.

>>87739643
My dick would literally explode

>>87736145
You're the saddest anon I've ever seen.

>>87739872
>comparing him to that hack Sondheim.

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>>87742007
not taking your bait today, mister

>>87736340
he's got a spanish name, but he looks pretty damn white to me.

He's the new John Legwahzahmoh

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>>87743786

>>87743085

No one cares

>>87743085
he looks white-ish but he's Puerto Rican

>>87736406
Idina Mendel is one of the most talented stage actors of this generation. Most people had never heard of her until she was either "The office girl in Enchanted" or Elsa.

>>87736908
Yeah /tv/ legit rapes this board sometimes

>>87736145
You guys might know him as a playwright, but he'll always be that rapper guy from House for me.

>>87743786
Let's hope not. One John Leguizamo was enough

Good. I really like his music

You would think with trump winning all these alt right racists would settle down a bit with the hateful rhetoric but *shrugs* I guess drumpfkin babies need even more attention now that they got a taste

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>>87736145
This is the only guy that I can trust on a Disney film.

>>87736307
Hamilton is race bait and brings nothing substantial to the table of theatre aside from at most encouraging those not typically theatre goers to go try the theatre because "this has there people". Seriously, the passion of love for Hamilton only proves the grave extent of white guilt and misunderstanding of racial issues in America

Seriously, Book of Mormon had more substantial racial commentary than Hamilton

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>>87747951
>falseflagging on co

>>87748008
hip hop in musical theatre is still pretty groundbreaking

>>87748008
Hamilton is basically a traditional old-fashioned patriotic story dressed up with "diverse" casting (though Miranda himself seemed kind of out of place in that cast).

It appeals to people who want old-fashioned patriotism but also people who want old-fashioned patriotism subverted.

A lot of big hit musicals are like that, like Fiddler On the Roof appeals to religious people and anti-religious people

>>87748008

Nice vague non-criticism there boss. Why do I have the feeling that you would post this about literally any piece of art made by non-white people or starring non-white people?

Stick with /tv/, everyone thinks you're really deep and brave in that shit hole

>>87748008
>I missed the entire point and was just caught up in the founding fathers being played by black people

you realize that was like the opposite of the point right? Miranda didn't care about race at all, he just cast the best people, shocker that most of the best people for a hip hop musical ended up being non-white

>>87740123
Disney's way ahead of you. http://deadline.com/2016/08/the-little-mermaid-lin-manuel-miranda-alan-menken-hamilton-disney-live-action-film-1201803536/

>>87748112
there was a conscious decision to cast primarily non-white people, since half the musical wasn't written when casting was happening

>>87736145
>hack
Hamilton was fantastic. Stay salty that Broadway won't produce your swill.

Fucking new yorkers and their musicals you can't see if you don't live in new yok

>>87748182
got a source on that claim?

>>87748182

He literally said word for word quote unquote "There was no conscious decision to cast non-white people" in his WTF interview two days ago you fucking idiot. The cast is non-white people because those are the only people he knew who could rap.

>>87748212
I don't have a linkable source, but the show book specifically mentions that he wrote Guns and Ships after he learned Daveed Diggs could rap so fast and One Last Time was written with Christopher Jackson in mind

>>87748090
>>87748112
>he didn't like Hamilton because its for uncle toms and white guilt audiences hurr he must be a racist drumph /pol/tv/ergeist xD

SPOILER ALERT: IT IS ONLY AS RECOGNIZED AS IT IS BECAUSE OF THE DIVERSE CASTING CHOICES

You know, not for it's substance of writing and song, but because LMM had the audacity to choose actors who were good for the part instead of an all white cast.

Seriously, there are plenty of better stage productions done by women of color but they'll never see broadway because they're not easy gimmes like Hamilton is

>>87736457
I don't wanna live in a world where "Bowie-inspired villain song performed by Jemaine Clement" is a concept that sucks.

Anyway, soundtrack's out tomorrow, anyone who uploads the deluxe edition will forever be considered a hero by yours truly. Make me proud.

>>87748229
Which is racist in and of itself, and come on, let's be honest here:

The publicity of "yeah we just wanted the best and it happened to be all blacks!" Sounds much more appealing than "oh I wrote some raps in the production so I definitely needed some black dudes with rhythm"

>>87748274
>come on, let's be honest here

So when the only piece of concrete evidence in the entire thread gets posted you just choose to ignore it because it disproves your argument.

This isn't /tv/ or /pol/, fuck off back to where you came from.

>>87748243
all that means is that a cast was picked before the musical was finished not that there was an intent in the racial make up of the cast

>>87740354
I wish I could find it, but there was a documentary on PBS about the developmental process and reception of Hamilton, and LMM's writing style was looked at by everything from intellectuals, to Nas, the Roots, and other performers, and everyone brought a unique perspective about something they caught they they felt made it fantastic to them. If you can find "Hamilton's America", and are legitimately curious, and don't have an irrational hate boner for the guy it's worth a look.

>>87748304
Just because he said something on Maron doesn't validate it's authenticity

Stop taking everything at face value

>>87748209
It got filmed, didn't it?

>>87748244
please name some examples of musicals you think deserved recognition over Hamilton

you clearly claim to know a lot about this sort of thing

to be fair a lot of Broadway shows get well known for the wrong reasons, people like risky and edgy stuff which is why ok works like Avenue Q and Book of Mormon get more recognition compared to how good they are but Hamilton isn't like that all

>>87748357

Just because you believe something it doesn't validate it's authenticity.

When the choice is between what the creator said about his work and what you choose to believe about his work without any evidence, I'll go with the creator.

>>87748209
>>87748368
and the national tour is kicking off in March next year

>>87748415
>fucking americans talking about how awsome their musical is you can't see unless you live in america

>>87748368
Yeah, and when can I see it, huh?

>>87739085
I envy you. I had people telling me to go to New York in high school, but wanted to get a degree first, "to fall back on." I always thought I was going to get back on track after graduating, but I've been out of school for 6 years, and know I won't do it. If you are living your life, pursuing a dream, even if modestly, but love what you do, then god bless you anon. It might not be THE dream, but it's probably closer to being a dream than the boredom I slave through 40 hours a week. I hope it it for you, anyway.

>>87748434
>>87748449
Oh just listen to the soundtrack

so you don't see guys in petty coats and powder wigs doing hip hop dance moves

the songs are like 99% of the substance of this sort of thing anyway

>>87748434
well the title is Hamilton: An AMERICAN Musical

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>>87739872
I THOUGHT THE SAME THING. IT'S SUCH A HYPE TIME.

>>87748375
Work by Katori Hall, Lydia R. Diamond and Suzan-Lori Parks is all debuted back in 2011 on broadway but because the cultural climate was different you didn't not hear shit about it


>>87748392
I'm not inclined to believe one way or the other. It's nice to believe what he says, and that we can have an near all black cast from blind casting, but there is plenty of outcry from casting call phrasings LMM used that make me think otherwise

>>87748163
Fuck, I love Disney. I remember when I used to try to resist it because I listened to my inner company wars faggot, but they are just churning out stuff on a regular basis that makes me legitimately happy.

>>87748531
>musical got more recognition than straight plays
someone alert the media

>>87748571
That's right I forgot that the primary audience of 12 year old white girls that dictates what is popular cant enjoy a theatre production if there isn't singing every five minutes

>>87747839
Personally he'll always be that rapper from The Electric Company to me

>>87748086
LMM just did WTF and he actually said Hamilton was conceptualized as a telling of colonial history with rap and hip hop as the musical vehicle to convey the information and that the minority casting was simply a choice of pragmatism first and foremost because whitey couldn't perform that type of music well. The director was the one that injected the social commentary surrounding the casting after the fact. Your second comment is perfect though, because it does both so well. On one level, it is easy to be taken in by the idealistic ambition of the first act, but on another, every featured founding father has their seeming deification diminished as a consequence. Hell, even the contemporary political process looks a bit less broken because that of the Colonial era is shown to be comparably hostile and divided.

>>87748673
>12 year old white girls
musicals have gotten more widespread recognition than straight plays since like the 50s/60s, why are you acting like this is some new cultural backslide

it's because it's hip hop, isn't it

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>/co/ is being hipsters over some theater dude

Is this what it's come to?

>>87748274
>Which is racist in and of itself
Within the context of conventional employment, you might have a point. Within the entertainment industry however, it is simply competent casting. You hire the performers that are most able to perform the intended piece as best as is possible. What you might have more standing to criticize however would be favoritism, as I believe LMM brought over some of his original In the Heights cast for the original Hamilton cast, but the entertainment industry has been doing that forever.

>>87748449
Some of it was featured in the doc anon mentioned >>87748342. Not all of it though.

>>87748783
/co/ is sometimes stealth-/th/

>>87748783
Want another BvS thread?

>>87748819
>all dose Hunchback of Notre Dame threads

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>>87748845
>official cast recording was garbage

>>87748751
And once again the racism suggestions come out

>bwahahhh he doesn't like Hamilton? Must be a racist

Come on faggot, a good portion of black music has always been appropriated to teenybopper shit, that goes back to the 20s

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>>87748869

>>87748880
ok but why do you object to Hamilton gaining popularity over straight plays when musicals are consistently more popular than straight plays in general and have been for decades

what about Hamilton sets it apart from all the other musicals that get recognition over arguably better straight plays?

>>87748946
What sets it apart is its cast. The musics not exceptional, I can't Imagine the costumes, acting and overall production aren't that exceptional either. I don't mind Hamilton, but I don't think it deserves the overzealous dicksucking it gets, especially when that praise is rooted in placating white guilt and done for primarily white audiences. It is literally minstralization, but because neo-liberalism says that's ok, no one bats an eyelash

>>87748464
i feel you f@m

it's not too late

>>87748243
>the show book specifically mentions

What page?

>>87748434
It's premiering in London soon.

>>87748531
>but there is plenty of outcry from casting call phrasings LMM used that make me think otherwise

What casting call phrasings did Lin Manuel Miranda use, specifically?

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>>87748819
and I wouldn't have it any other way

>>87749297
>I can't Imagine the costumes, acting and overall production aren't that exceptional either.

So you haven't seen the show but you're the authority on why it shouldn't have received praise or become popular? Hmmm.

>

>>87748869
>calling the HOND cast recording garbage

the fuck

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ITT: /co/ gets triggered by the Hamilton guy

>>87752133
no one really seems to care, the re-orchestrations are questionable and best, garbage at worst, Phoebus gets a PTSD verse in Rest and Recreation out of nowhere that is never brought up again

I dunno, I just liked that soundtrack someone me cut together out of the bootleg recording more

>>87736307
Tokenism, anon.

>>87752273
>tfw no recording of the version with the actual deaf actor for Quasimodo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lenfad0T9Xo