>it's a DnD episode

>It's a "The writers never played DnD but they are 'nerdy' so they think they can just get it right but they totally fuck it up anyways." episode.

>>87732740
>It's a let's spend the whole episode laughing at the nerd instead of actually adapting the nerdy things we claim to be fans of

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I have never seen a TV show, whether in cartoon land or meat space, where dungeon and dragons was played correctly.

>>87732834

You know, now that I think of it even movies that claim to celebrate DnD players seem to go out of the way to make the players look like assholes.

>>87732834
I think Recess came a bit close compared to others

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>Dungeons & Dragons episode.
>Everything is based on recent Hollywood fantasy movies.

>>87732834
Community seemed accurate enough.

>>87732834
Stranger Things? I suppose you don't see much actual gameplay but from what I know the series understands the lore rather well.

This trigger the /tg/

>>87732740
>>87732829
Fun Fact: the the GF dnd episode, the RS dnd episode, and some of the elements of Adventure Time were inspired by the same DnD games that the flapjack crew would play

>>87732834
>He hasn't seen all of Community
Pity this poster.

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>See the Dexter episode
>Find the game fascinating
>Get all the books
>Get bored halfway through the DM guide
>Give up
>Don't have any friend to play with anyway
>mfw

>>87732834
Stranger things captured the vibe of a bunch of 12 year olds playing D&D pretty well.

>>87733002
>>87733343
>DM rolls for players

Yeah, no.

>>87733396
The key is to not play D&D. Savage Worlds or
>Don't have any friends to play with anyways
Ah. Yeah there's no fixing that.

>>87732740
>>87732829
This.

While Iconic, very few, even amoungst gamers play DND. I mostly played GURPS during the 90's because ut was easier to learn being just D6.

>>87733396
/tg/ here. Have you heard of gamefinder threads/

>>87733426
>He's never played with a good DM
Haha it's better to roll for players so they can't gain meta knowledge like the AC of things.

Pity this guy, too.

>>87732834

Why is that? Is it that they don't wanna ape original tabletop games too strongly, or that this many creators just don't get it?

>>87732681
Honestly you could argue that the big bang tgeiry started out being a ahow about what normies thought nerds were.

While I'm told ut get's better later seasons. I saw a couple episodes and was not impressed, felt fake and forced.

>>87733426
>First time players rolling for themselves
"Give me a minute, just gotta blow on my dice, guys."

>>87733444
>very few, even amoungst gamers play DND
>even amongst gamers
DnD is the most common trpg

>>87732834
What about the old Dungeons and Dragons cartoon?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3FZnD21iO0

>>87733466
>DM just plays with himself while you sit there and watch him have fun
Fuck off, retard. Rolling dice is 90% of the fucking game I'm not watching you do it for 4 hours.

>>87733486
Never happens.

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>>87733444

Well I meant that they don't actually play Table top games period. My group was all Pathfinder

>>87733500
Socal is mostly war gamers, battle tech, warhammer, flanes of war, other historicals and such.

Locally most people play gurps, pathfinder or D20 system, but not actual plain D&D

Then there is savage worlds, white wolf and others

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>>87732834
Came here to post this.

I remember an old mango or doujin did it right, but Japanese people always add an OCD level of details when talking about things they really enjoy.

>>87733546
This is such a shitty straw man I don't even know where to start. The game is about way more than dice rolling.

>Fuck off, retard.
You're obviously the retard here. You're obviously autistic if you get pleasure from playing with plastic cubes.

>>87733634
>Japanese Fantasy
>End up turning everything into Dragon Quest

>>87733641
t. Never played D&D in his life

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>>87733655
I'm a fa/tg/uy you're just a scrublord.

>>87733650
Not since the early 2000's, now it takes on a more high fantasy/Final Fantasy airships, magic crystals and cities made out of a god's lost toothpick.

>>87733722

actually these days it's all track suit wearing neets who reincarnate

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>>87733650
Dungeon meshi is the most fantasy thing I can think of in recent times, even has a classic party line up, just in a single dungeon.

It's like i'm really playing ADnD again, except they know how to draw cute elves.

>>87733779
>>87733650
Japan's problem is they don't really have a commonly used word for fantasy, the way we know it, so it all gets dumped into the fiction section.

>>87733834
Oh wow that explains a lot. Quality post.

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>>87733300
>>87733311

>>87732681
>it's a WOW episode

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>>87733904

Sad AT never straight up did this in its prime, would have been great. But I guess it would have pushed the joke too far.

>>87733650
Blame Slayers for that. Shit was ridiculously influential in Japan during the 90s.

>>87732834
Nigger.
Stranger Things

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>>87733936

Gokudo was funnier anyways

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>>87733999
>Nigger.

Never heard of that show. Surprised it got air play.

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>>87733904
>it's a wow episode

>>87732834

I don't think they can actually legally describe the rules, unless they get permission. So they have to fudge their own absurd lookalike "rules" for the players to follow.

>>87733931
FIVE years of my life gone.
Because of that episode
I don't regret a thing

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>>87733834
>Trying to look up fantasy adventure mangas
>Have to sift through dozens of a god appears in high school and a bunch of nerds play an MMO mangas.
Truly suffering

>>87733936
I've got a lot to be thankful for from Slayers

>>87733537
they were never ever close to getting it right

>>87734085
Did you watch the video?

>>87734126
>abridged series

>>87734147
>all dubbings are now abridged series

>>87732892
I'm only aware Dorkness Rising.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBMyZ4cQsSo

And the dickery of the various characters is pretty true to life.

>>87733444
DnD has been the most popular RPG through the whole history of the hobby. Everyone who was at least a bit into roleplaying games has a passing familiarity with DnD.

>>87734303

Eh, Im not gonna pretend there aren't PLENTY of cunt gamers but if you're supposed to be celebrating the fans and the game you don't make your whole movie about

>DRRRRR HARDASS GAMERS
>LOL GIRLS
>IM A STRUGGLING WRITER LOOK HOW CHARMING AND MISUNDERSTOOD I AM.

>>87732834

Teen Titans Go had a good episode about DnD

>>87734340
Eh, it tacky, but whatever. It's an fun amateur movie, what did you expect?

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>>87732681
>It's a D&D Episode...
>Every Episode

>>87732681
I used have a group that would play every week in school. Graduated and moved back home and now I don't any friends to do anything with ;_;

>>87734477

It's a gauche piece of crap that's desperately trying to earn geek appeal

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>>87732834
what about Zero Charisma the meat space movie?

also I think I.T. Crowd episode was charming

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one of my favorite koth episodes

>>87732834
Dexter did a decent job of it

>>87732681
Probably my favorite trope that comes from these episodes is that the characters they RP keep the same voice and mannerisms of the people that are playing them.
example: Big hulking barbarian has the annoying voice of Gilbert Gottfried.

>>87735376
>Probably my favorite trope that comes from these episodes is that the characters they RP keep the same voice and mannerisms of the people that are playing them.

See I actually do like seeing the characters super imposed on their PCs but most of these shows just don't know the game on more than a superficial level

>>87734051
this is probably true

>cant use specific rules
>cant use specific classes/races
>cant use any settings

what's left then?

but on the other hand
>OGL is OGL, so DnD3.5, pathfinder, all good to go?
>most shows are parodies, so can shit on copyright and use everything they want

So I'm guessing it's just lazyness.

>>87735023
I.T. Crowd episode was great on so many levels.

>>87732681

>Dat goblin as obvious tribute to that old hobbit animated movie
>Dat fey looking elf
>Dungeons and dungeons and more dungeons

This joke is officially funny and inoffensive to /co/. Please report back to the hivemind.

>>87734907
Have you seen the first one? It's not riding the wave of geek appeal. It's more about people making a funny movie about their hobby.

>>87736785
also it felt a bit like this was a meta joke
as in
>episode about episode about dnd

>>87736785
hi alex

>>87733343
>>87733002

but community a shit

>>87734907

burn. And you're right.

Just watched the Gravity Falls episode and it's probably the weirdest DnD episode I've seen.
>The rule book that seems to be written in ye olde english
>The game has a slogan players chant
>We ran out of space to put graph paper in the basement and we're going for the record
>90s edition that tried to be "cool"

If not for the ending you'd think all the writers knew about DnD was that it's about fantasy adventures and has complex rules.

What's the deal with the 90s edition though? Could they be talking about the rise of White Wolf game?

>>87737440
I always just assumed it was a general 90s joke, Gravity Falls seemed to like those.

>>87735023
> I.T. Crowd episode was charming
Damn, I compltely forgot about that episode.
You are a treasure anon.

>>87737594
It probably was.

Also the credits joke where larpers go "are we wasting our time on escapism when we could use it to face our shortcoming and improve ourselves" was pretty mean.

>>87737696
> "are we wasting our time on escapism when we could use it to face our shortcoming and improve ourselves"
> mean
Well you are a 4chan poster, no wonder it hits a little too close to home.

>>87734446
FUCK YOU
whats the episode

>>87737760
I'm not even a larper but I know a bunch of larper and they're great guys. They train a lot, are in a good shape and they make their own armor. It's weird to see a children's cartoon trying to put down what seem to be a pretty cool hobby.

>>87733834
5000 kanji and only 30 words because afraid of synonyms

>>87737440
It sort of started out as a D&D episode, but turned into an MtG episode partway through.

Seriously, how do you ban a monster from a game?

>>87738213
Why would a culture that loves puns so much be afraid of synonyms?

Or am I thinking of homonyms?

>>87732834
Freaks and Geeks?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJAGxAeV7YU

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>>87732834

>Dungeons & Dragons
>playing correctly

All those "rules" are just guidelines. Its just to give some initial order. If your DM wants to do shit differently, then so be it. The best campaigns are the ones you make up. The best stories are about off the wall shit you pulled off, or your DM let you pull off.

There is no correct way to play D&D, only the fun way that works for you.

>>87733396
This reminds me of the one article I remember reading one time where a guy was in prison and was able to buy a D&D book from the commissary. At some point because of his behavior he was stuck in solitary for a long period of time and just played out entire campaigns in his head just to keep himself a little sane.

>>87738480
>Seriously, how do you ban a monster from a game?

By omitting it from monster manuals, they way TSR cut/renamed Demons/Devils in the 80s to dodge Satanic Panic attacks?

>>87738656
is that loss in the window or is my brain just fried?

>>87738821
It's there, but it's an edit

>>87738656


You're not wrong, we home brew and fluff the rules a lot in our games but there is a sense of rules even there.

Diggity Dungeons and All That was the funniest joke in this show.

>>87738034
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mr09q7tS4Sg

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Did the D&D parody episode of Lesbian Horse Stories get most of it right?

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>>87732681
>It's actually correct and well researched about role playing games and doesn't operate on generic nerdy stereotypes

>>87732953
Holy shit, you're right... it's the only thing I can think of that portrays nerds even close to their real-life counter parts.

>>87733396
Play RISUS the ANYTHING RPG!! It's super simple and incredibly easy to play. All you need is a DM willing to do silly stuff alongside the cool shit and it'll be amazing. I've played a funky space guitar player fighting Aliens that stole all the hot chicks using raves, a first day small town deputy trying to save his town from the zombie apocalypse, and a superpowered street kid in a The Warriors inspired apocalypse fighting colorful gangs with his older brother. Just recently I ran a DnD game using the system for some newbies and they fell in love with it so much that I'm gonna make a more involved system just so we can keep the game going.

>>87739553
Wait so are the girls lesbians or are the horses lesbians?

>>87739864
Why not both

>>87737696
True say. I was down on LARPing for a while. Tried it once with friends because I didn't want to be that whiny asshole who dragged everyone who wanted to do it down. While I won't go out and do it again since it's not my cup of tea, the people were super fucking rad.

>>87739864
Are there even real life lesbian horses?
This would be super weird.

>>87739553
>dat filename
subtle image barneyfag

>>87733630
>SoCal
There's your problem, you live in California!

>>87739942
I've got a friend whose trying to become one of those Zoo people. Whenever she gets drunk she loudly details all the animals who fuck the same gender. My favorite time was at a gay bar and all my gay friends were asking her what type of animal they all were. I was a Dolphin which really sounds more like a insult than anything else

>>87739955
or stale mrs goodra.

>>87738041
Alex Hirsch is an insecure asshole who managed to stumble onto some success through sheer luck

>>87735023
That episode was comfy as fuck fro what i remember

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>>87732681
>2016
>there still isn't a 40k episode to parody the D&D episodes
>also no shadow run parody

>>87740004
>I was a Dolphin
Horrifying.

>>87740004
I hope you tenderly loved your female friends face like that one gif of a dolphin having his way with a fish.
you know the one

>>87740248
Different anon here.
I don't know.
Do even I want to know?

>>87740145
I've been playing for 16 years and I still haven't played either of those systems.

>>87732834
IT crowd wasn't too bad. Totally nailed the "outsiders think its lame, and then get really into it" kinda vibe. I've seen so many people who come in with a chuckle, and leave smiling after an epic battle with a goblin king

>>87740315
It's better to know now than find out later.
Unfortunately I never saved it.
That's also when I found out a male dolphin's true purpose is to gently persuade all creatures into being it's little spoon.

>>87740565
> almost any hole is fine
> INCLUDING BLOWHOLES
Nature sure is something special.

>>87740686
Ok I might actually be a dolphin then

Most of the good players I've had are ex-military, /fit/bois, or actually smart people with smart things to say. They're all real adults with an interest in the macabre. Besides the ones like me who are train wrecks just smart enough to get by.

If I ever made a DnD cartoon it'd be more about how everyone seems to try and find the easiest path towards murder and torture rather than NERDS!!!

>>87732681
>People think DnD is elves and wizards
That's really fucking cute.

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>>87734446
>Everyone sucked at DnD
>Only Robin gets called out for being a shitty DM
Yeah, don't call out on Raven for not choosing any good spells and cantrips and jacking up her level to 99 to kill rats,

>>87740754
Nice blogpost

>>87738537
this.

>>87733486
Or they keep rolling off the table like a spastic.

>>87733546
>Rolling dice is 90% of the fucking game

I spend most of my time strategizing with other players and roleplaying.

>>87742662
>Even getting to 99 in DnD

I may not have played in a while but I don't think the game scales that high

>>87732834
Part of it I think has to do with it being somewhat difficult to show small excerpts of an actual D&D game and make it entertaining.

5e is the best

ANYWAY who got volo's guide to monsters?

>>87739629
If it exists, please tell let me know. I think community did a fantastic job but if there's more out there I must have it.

>>87739324
Fuck, I'm a bit pissed

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>Character is alone in front of camera
>they make a silly face

>>87733091
Nope. It's obvious they actually know what D&D is about, but it doesn't play like an actual game at all.

>>87739553
Where can I read all this pulp fiction?

>>87743428
To my knowledge there isn't really a level cap but realistically speaking there should never be a campaign that last that fucking long. I think most books give examples up to 30th level which is like God tier. Like anyone 15th level is pretty much a wise old master dragon slayer type of character that is well beyond what any normal human being can do. By default I believe most characters are already beyond human standards at creation and were fit to be adventures unless the game state otherwise. Of course depending on your rolls you could get lucky and have 18-19 Str which is pretty much Juggernaut levels of strength.

>>87733430
how come you don't like savage worlds?

>>87733396
What is online DnD?

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>It's a "Worst character learns a meaningless shitty lesson that she immediately forgets" episode

>>87744425
They were 12, they couldn't have been playing long. They didn't understand how all the rules worked so they just didn't use all of them.
In that way it's the most accurate portrayal of someone playing D&D I've ever seen.

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>>87733426
uhhhh.. that's how gygax had intended the game to be: dm does ALL the rolling, players just say what they want to do/rp

>>87744657
Isn't that how new players should be playing? Slowly learn the rules as they go and have fun instead of reading book after book of info with no real example to go by?

I would love if a GM gave me the time of day to slowly teach me the game at our own pace.

>>87744550
every edition except 4th goes to level 20. 4th goes to 30.
There is supplemental material to go even higher level in older editions (i.e. not 5th), but most campaigns end around level 10 or 12. The only times I've ever seen a 20+ game is for a one-shot session where everyone makes balls insane characters.

>>87732834
Community had two episodes, and if you want a movie there's The Gamers: Dorkness Rising (which admittedly takes a couple liberties, and even features a rules-lawyer character)

>>87743469
>/tg/
it is the best supplemental book they've made for 5e, which I suppose isn't saying much because it is the third supplemental book they've made for 5e.

>>87733426
You've seen the characters, would you trust them to roll their own dice? That and the first time they were specifically trying to make one person "a winner" so he was cheating in his favor

>>87744691
My bad then.

I just knew anything above 10 is fucking insane. Been a while since I play anything. I never play 4th edition though, I think I heard the term 30th level-something from a cartoon once, Mission Hill maybe?

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>>87744691
i've had to stat epic level creatures/characters for when my party of murderhobo players inevitably try to kill the gargantuan fucking platinum dragon they were doing quests for

it only had to eat one of them before they got their shit together and apologized

>>87744738
>GM moving away
>Wants to do a 20 level session for fun.
>Lets us know to make our characters as crazy powerful and OP as possible.
>Text him back and forth to make my character over the week.
>Apparently, no one else did much research.
>I unintentionally steal the spotlight from everyone
>gain the reputation of a munchkin

>>87739955
That's the point.
I was asking about the show that must not be named.
Can someone answer that question, please?

>>87732834
Harmonquest?

>>87739324
I would whatch a show in that art-shift style.

>>87740145
What is regular show

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>>87744738
>GMing a game
>3 player party on lv4 inside a goblin cave
>They had just killed a goblin king
>Suddenly the entire tunnel is flushed with goblin warriors
>the scape route is RIGHT THERE
>"Hey, fellow player, lets stay and fight? They are just goblins!"
>"U..uh, ok, lets fuck them!"
>Two of the three players end up killed, and with their remains impaled in front of the cave
>Only the halfling managed to scape at the last minute, and ended up lost on the tunnels


After that session, they stopped being murderhobos.

>>87745436
Was the guy who insisted they'd stay and fight the only survivor?
That would be delicious.

>>87738480
by being a good DM. Just cause there are 5 books of monsters and many others with monster sections doesn't mean they all have to exist in your setting. As the DM you make your world and if a certain monster race doesn't make sense, you omit it.

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>>87732834
This movie nailed it, tbqh.

>>87733311
Must've been a shitty game full of bad dice puns and people too cool and disaffected to give a shit laughing at the one guy who understood the rules.

>>87735223
>Resplendent

>>87744691
I've had a few that go from level 1 to level 30. One level every 2-3 sessions (which is a little fast but whatever)

>>87745436
>>87745436
this is why everyone should try Hackmaster at least once. You can't make it to level 2 unless you learn to run

>>87745948
>One level every 2-3 sessions (which is a little fast but whatever)
how the fuck is three months fast

am i a scrub? is D&D usually that long and i'm just a huge coward?

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>>87745191
>>87732834

You can bet your arse they did it right. MLP was under Hasbro which had DND as one of their products.

Though out of all the fiction, I still think Stranger Things did it best.

>>87746002
>Barney
>doing anything right

>>87746138
k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtcLh_8eOic&list=PLnGBcsajZuOCOvRya_zbkCEXkW2h1yEmz

>>87736904
Season two was incredible though.

>>87745975
>months
you don't play weekly or bi-weekly? once a month is way too long to wait between games. Personally, I like once every two weeks

>>87746829
what i mean is that thirty levels with 2-3 sessions per game is like three months of solid playtime, spread out even more depending on how frequently they meet up. shit, that campaign could last like two years depending

>>87746888
>2-3 sessions per level
whatever

>>87746888
What system are you playing that you level up 2-3 times per session?

>>87747356
I typo'd, I was responding to >>87745948

>>87732681

>It's a Caverns&Creatures episode

>>87744625
Make a Mabel thread if you want, just don't drag it here

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>tfw nips did DnD cartoons better then the west

>>87749380
The Japs only got like the first two editions of D&D which is why they still depict kobolds has more dog-like since the newer editions turned them into littler lizard people.

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>>87732834
Just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. And if you keep looking and failing to find it, suddenly one just pops up at you and...

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>>87749594

>>87749403
Which is fine because lizardmen still exist

>>87734147

Hahaha no.

>>87739324
>It's a Teen Titans Go has an Art Shift that looks fucking awesome episode
This looks really good.

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>>87749380

>>87733396

https://roll20.net/

You're welcome.

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>>87749403
that led to the creation of my waifu so it's fine

>>87751156
>big meaty paws

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>>87738656
This comic sums that up pretty well.

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>>87749380
>tfw nips did shitty Dragon Quest ripoffs better than the west.
Fixed.
Record of the Lodoss War is pretty great, though

/co/ What should I watch to get a good jist of what dnd is like? I know theres podcasts but those are very long.

>>87752600
Do mean what playing tabletop game is like or the world/setting of D&D?

>>87745389
When did they do a shadow run episode?

>>87752627
The first one, but I wouldn't mind getting a good feel of the lore and stuff, too.

>>87738656
>There's no correct way to play DnD
Can I ask you something? Then why the fuck are you playing the single most beginner-friendly, rail-roady system in the entire existence of all roleplaying systems? Of course there's a correct way to play DnD. It's called following the rules and checking the errata. The entire point of DnD is that the rules are so rigid that the game practically runs itself if your players are partially braindead and have the creativity of a tree stump.

>>87752600
>>87752692
It's a very long game. No one sits down for a brisk 15 minute DnD session. Your best bet is looking up the Penny Arcade DnD podcasts because they're beginner friendly and entertaining.

>>87744691
You can go past twenty if you do the math or award levels via something other than an experience table. I think it says specifically in one of the god descriptions that some of them have classes and they're like 20/20 wizard/cleric or something. Sometimes wizards ascend. Vecna is a good example.

>>87733091
>making an attack roll for a fireball

>>87746888
>sessions
don't tell me your GM has a single plot that he needs to do that day. A sessions just means a night of gaming, wherever you end you end. DM just hands out XP however they feel like it.

>>87751624

I wanna play in Pigtails Girl's game.

Oh, wait, I already do.

>>87732681
At least it had Weird Al.

>>87751670
Record of the Loduss War gave me my elf fetish. It maybe have helped inspired the fuck ton of haram anime, but it had a great story, great art and was from a time when anime was actually good.

>>87752727
okay thank you

>>87752724
>The entire point of DnD is that the rules are so rigid that the game practically runs itself
>never played anything but 4th ed

fuck off. all of DnD specifically says at the beginning, Ignore these rules if they don't let you have fun with this game, This is what DnD is, take what rules you want, ignore the rest.

>>87745436
>Halfling gets lost in tunnels full of goblins
Did he find a magic ring?

>>87752949
How the fuck you gonna ignore the class system, the way levels work, the way spells work, the way leveled abilities work, and still be playing DnD? I didn't play 4th. I played 3.5 and being able to choose your skills just barely saved it from being completely on the rails. But in 5th all you get is "proficiency" and the rest is a question of what level you are and what ability they gave you at that level. SOMETIMES you get a list of options, but that really depends.

>>87752847
>girl

>>87732834
The MLP episode was pretty good.

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>>87746138
>Mocking what is unironically one of the best cartoons of the 2010s

>>87753108
I don't think game mechanics came up at all in that. As far as I recall, one character was a wizard, one was a warrior, and then one character made the game "real" and then the other two whined about how bleeding out was super painful. I mean holy shit, that was a game about monsters and magic in a world where monsters and magics actually exist - if they wanted real they shouldn't have even done the DnD episode.

Is this one accurate?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2XGp5ix8HE

>>87753024
as far as gary gygax is concerned, you only roll dice for the sound they make, all these rules are just guide lines to smooth out all the myriad random factors that go into your action, and at the end of the day having fun and telling a story is the main goal.

>>87745216
Pathfinder

>>87732834
Stranger things did it right.

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>>87751670
Lodoss had the one and only Satoshi Urushihara as character design.
Motherfucking Satoshi, king of boobs.

>>87754354
That's the purest form of roleplaying, but DnD really ain't that. I tend to find that even good roleplayers tend to min/max in DnD when they won't in a point-buy system. I think it's just something about knowing you're locked into your path that makes creative people try to maximize their options.

>>87733002

>Abed rolls one attack for Fat Neil's fighter
>Doesn't roll damage
>Declares that three orcs were beheaded by a single swing of his sword

k.

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>>87754761
I was essentially hard corrupted from youth to be into knife ears thanks to this goddamn leaf-chewing strumpet

It doesn't mix too well with my need to see ancient powerful races humiliated and dragged through the same rotten filth the rest of the mortal races are

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>>87732834

Goblin Slayer is DnD when the DM makes it so only a tryhard can succeed. Also Slayers is literally taken from what happened in the author's DnD campaign.

>>87732834
If it were played "correctly" it would be some boring ass bullshit.

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>tabletop game episode
>DnD always

Is it a problem with licensing and copyright, or are TV writers bigger normalfags than they let on?

>>87754627
>casting fireball at Demogorgon

No they didn't.

>>87755303
>tabletop games are a niche hobby and only the vastly most popular one gets mainstream recognition
Woah...
Who would have guessed that...

>>87755303
D&D is the only tabeltop people give a shit about, if that's what you mean by normalfags.

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>>87752724

Help me, O guru anon, my D&D box doesn't have any errata in it. In fact, I seem to be missing the rigid, rail-roady part of the rules entirely! Oh, halp me lawdy—I must be doing it wrong!

But fucking seriously, yeah there's a right way to play D&D. Pre-stock your dungeons with monsters, traps, and treasures according to the rules. Fill out your wilderness map and key the hexes before you even consider letting your players roll up their characters. Stats are rolled in order, 3d6 down the line, preferably by the DM; or else out in the open where everyone can see each roll. Most earned XP comes from recovered treasure, according to the 1 GP = 1 XP rule. Keep careful time in the dungeon, checking for wandering monsters every second turn. DM rolls all the dice if you can convince your players not to be munchkiny little bitches.

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>>87750989

I wish more people watched Seisen Cerberus. It was retarded as hell but in that honest kind of way and I loved every minute of it.

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>>87736904
you shut your whore mouth

>>87744573
there's a period after D&D, I believe "savage worlds" was the start of a new sentence, which he interrupted for the joke.

>>87752821
He was rolling spell penetration

>>87749403
You say that like its a bad thing, 2nd edition best edition.

>>87755956
is this any good?

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>>87756832

It's completely retarded and I love it. Also there are big fat cat tats

Can we talk about Harmonquest in this thread?

>>87757268

what about it.

>>87757389
I dunno. Literally never seen it discussed anywhere. Boneweevil best character.

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>>87757206
Fuck yeah

>>87752600
Critical Role is long as hell, but it has an amazing story and really shows you both how the game works and how fun it can be.

>>87732986
GMs pull that shit constantly.

>>87744676
Well gygax also intended a simple dungeon crawler rather than the genre definer that it has become. Also beholders. Fuck dragons, I want beholders back.

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>>87757804

Eh, Im not gonna saw I never nicked stuff but they don't have to make it so obvious. There's a world of difference between me stealing from a game I like for shits (and giggles and because Im not a professional writer who knows his friends don't watch much anime) than a professional writer just who just wants mass geek appeal.

>>87732681
>I've been playing for 16 years and I still haven't played either of those systems.
Cause you suck you fuckin 3.5 er
Or worse a fucking fampire

>>87752669
anon's probably talking about realms of darthon. episode itself was just typical cartoon general RPG parody, but I know for a fact that Quintel is a fan of Shadowrun because he talked in an interview about loving the sega game as a kid and some years ago he posted a pic of one of his old shadowrun books on twitter.

>>87743428
In 3.5 epic levels could scale as high as you want, but anyone with sense realized quickly that you were just adding numbers and after a certain point that would get horrifyingly boring

That having been said there was sone 3rd party stuff for stupidly high level characters for when you want to fight neutronium golems, or timelines, or living demiplanes.

>>87734051
It's just narrative convenience. D&D is a storytelling game, but showing off all the game rules accurately drags down the story half.

>>87735223
That's a fun episode, but the group who think they're actual wizards, while they have overlap, isn't the same thing.

>>87758978

yeah but there's an opposite extreme too. Why even have a DnD episode if you're not gonna do it proper. There's a lot of fun you can have with jokes about botched rolls and shit.

>>87759408
>time to crit the hay.jpg

>>87759408
Because D&D can also be used to tie into other parts of the story, and many writers and viewers identify with the emotional parts of D&D even if it botches the actual rules.

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Since we're talking about DnD here: can someone redpill me on Chaotic Evil?

>>87760229
A chaotic evil character has predominantly evil/selfish motivations, and little to no regard for the rules of society, or indeed rules in general.

If your at tabtletop, in an evil campaign a chaotic evil character is the lolrandumb-but-evil guy. Thw player is most likely trying to be the joker and fucking it up horribly.

If your not in an evil campaign then the guy playing chaotic evil is That Guy and its perfectly fine to let the party paladin start a smite train on his ass when he inevitably screws up his edgymctryhard plan.

See also: fishmalk, randumb

>>87760229
>>87760487
Sorry, I'm a fucking retard and meant Chaotic Neutral.

>>87760229
a chaotic evil guy is someone who will team up with you against the bigger threat who is gonna enslave everyone, but then stab you in the back and try to take that power for themself

>>87760229
>Chaotic
You are generally spontaneous and innovative. While you don't necessarily disrespect laws or codes, you may even have one yourself, they mean very little to you and will rarely enter your mind in how to best do things. You generally favor progress over tradition, freedom over order, and heat-of-the-moment over hard planning. Or you simply put the opposition/destruction of a certain code or laws above other things (hence why Robin Hood is CG).

>Evil
You are characterized by your selfishness. Other moral failings may be present but an evil character but an evil character universally looks out for their own interests first. This does not necessarily mean you are mean or even lack for friends but you are more than willing to throw someone unknown under the bus for self-development. You are cruel and will always take the easiest path unless it would cross any personal code.

>CE
You value your own personal freedom far above that of all others. You deserve the world handed to you on a platter and you'll be damned if any traditions or laws stand in your way. You would kill a sleeping man to steal his things where a more neutral character would attempt to leave him be. Your self determination is absolute.
You may also be CE if
>you are a druid attempting to destroy civilization in favor of "the natural order"
>you are a rampaging beast with enough intelligence for sapience such as a gnoll
>you are driven sufficiently mad as to not follow normal methods and morals

>>87760593
That first one would probably be Lawful Evil or Neutral Evil. Chaotic or Lawful doesn't mean following a certain town's laws, especially when it comes to druids who are almost always Neutral and refuse to acknowledge regular authority.

>>87760074

Im not saying be a rule nazi Im just saying acknowledge them. If you're gonna flub the rule book that's fine a lot of players do but show the characters doing that.

Like say an older brother wants to get his sister to play but she misses by a couple of points. She starts to get really sad that her character may die when she sees DM bros face at the dice but instead he (to the audience) says close enough and fudges it.

Maybe a character wants to be something not in the rule book so he the DM characters acknowledges that they're going off the book to make him happy if it can be done in a way that works. One of my earliest memories is our DM refluffing the burning hands spell to freezing hands because one of players wanted to be an ice themed character.

you can do whatever you want in DnD, that's absolutely true, that's part of the dun. But show that. Show the people watching that the rules exist but aren't made of mithril.

>>87760529
Chaotic neutral can mean a lot of things, but a good dm will probably rule it to mean actual sociopathy, or extreme self interest.

The character who ONLY gives a shit about themselves, but cant be assed to murder villages is chaotic neutral.

Players tend to think of CN as "I can totally do whatever I want!" And as a way to avoid the restrictions of the alignment class.

90% of CN characters wind up being randumb murderhobos who just do whatever. This makes them shitty characters.

The other 10% are CN because the DM doesnt allow evil in their campaign. That way they can rape bar maids and claim it was in character.

>>87760529
See
>>87760593
For chaotic

>Neutral
You are balanced. You feel no particular sense of selfishness nor selflessness. You are willing to help strangers without much pause though you would much prefer compensation. You are willing to work for a greater good and alongside others though may require convincing for some tasks but you are willing to go against traditional morality should the need or opportunity arise though you will go within reason.

>CN
You value your own personal freedom very greatly but not to the point where others should needlessly suffer. You are willing to rob an innocent man for good enough reason or if opportunity presents itself obviously enough though you should not go out of your way to do so (dick ass thieves listen the fuck up, you are evil, stop it). You would enjoy compensation for your deeds though you are willing to go without it. Traditions and laws do not enter your thoughts when acting, only what is best for the situation at hand. You come first but others are right behind you rather than beneath you as with an evil character.
You may be CN if
>you are a lonesome ranger who has not been near others for quite some time
>a stranger to common types of law and morality though you are trying to learn
>a reforming criminal

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>>87760745
>>87760676
>>87760593
>>87760564
>>87760229

Ill redpill you one further. Good players don't follow alignment rigidly. It hampers organic play and is bullshit. People who follow alignment as a rule don't really BECOME their character because they're stuck trying to think what the correct choice of actions for their character is based on that instead of reacting naturally to the situation.

The kind of people who care about alignment are the same douche bags who are obsessed with making paladins "fall" because the orchestrated scenario's where they have to make tough decisions completely ignoring that's it's their faith that guides them and can only fall if they lose that. Not because they had to do one bad thing.

The kind of players who play alignment are douche bags who have their thief backstab everyone just because they're a thief regardless of how it fits into the narrative you're all creating.

So yeah. Alignment is for douches, play organically and don't worry about it.

>>87760939
Well yeah, that goes without saying. Alignment is a guideline for how your character normally acts and what they can be expected to do in a regular situation but that doesn't mean that its a prison. In fact, your alignment should change a bit amount over a long campaign as your character grows and develops. Alignment should change to fit your character, not the other way around. And if you don't quite fit in somewhere, oh well, that just means your character has some depth to them.

What's the verdict on Neutral Good? Or Chaotic Good?

>>87753122
>liking one of the worst shows in human existence.

>>87761883
I play a neutral good character. I take it to mean that she has a strict moral compass, but doesn't really bother with laws or institutions that she feels are unjust.

But that's just my character, I'm sure the alignment can work in many different ways.

>>87761883

Think Robin Hood.

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>buy Mouse Guard 2E as soona s it comes out
>look all around college for friends that might wanna play it
>nobody did
>out of college now and have nobody even remotely interested in playing tabletop games

I really wish I got into this stuff when I was much younger, I might not have been such a loner in high school

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>>87762542

Mouse Guard is awesome but a hard sell to douchey teens and young adults

>>87762542
All i want now is a mouse guard / gane of thrones fusion game.

>>87732740
When has this ever happen? You literally can't fuck up DnD. EVERYONE knows what it is, nerds pretending to be elves and dwarfs stealing loot from dragons.

>>87762542
Dude, Mouse Guard is pretty fun, and the fact that you're so weak in comparison to the huge predator monsters you sometimes have to face means you have to be creative in how you take your opponents out.

I also like that stuff like carpentry and glass blowing can be useful skills.

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>>87732681
>It's a DnD episode
>Don't even get to the DnD part until 15 fucking minutes in

For what fucking purpose

>>87763469
>When has this ever happen?

OP image was a great example

>You literally can't fuck up DnD. EVERYONE knows what it is, nerds pretending to be elves and dwarfs stealing loot from dragons.

and yet here we are

>>87732681
DnD isn't even that great of a system, why does it get all the attention?

>>87733634
Hey I do that too.
No wonder I like that style of exposition.
>tfw mild OCD

>>87733546
>Never happens.
I've literally had this happen.

>>87763914
because nerds hate change.

>>87760229
>>87760529
I'll let you in on a secret
the dnd alignments were never meant to model the way real people think or act. They're a gameplay convince so that things like smite evil or magic circle against alignment can exist.

>>87752821
It's still a ranged attack that needs to beat their touch AC right?

I like DnD episodes, but that's probably because my only experience with the game was just after 4.0 came out and everyone was trying to get newcomers to play. The actual game part seemed like mostly a framework to roleplay rather than simulating combat, so the innacurate episodes are fine as long as the focus is on the characters are acting and revealing themselves in the choices they make, but as I understand it all actual DnD players hated 4.0 so maybe that is moot.

>>87763914

what do you mean why? You can debate the quality of games all day but DnD is THE game that started the whole thing. None of the other games would exist if DnD didn't make this shit popular to start with.

>>87740145
the day there's a 40k parody episode is the day i kill myself

>>87767139

There was that 40k family circus

>>87740145
im quite sure the reason is that GW sues people over stupid shit too much for most show creators to bother or try, i mean fuck they once sued a company because HUGE PAULDRONS.

I really don't like the Punisher. I just don't get the appeal of a hero (or even an antihero) who does nothing but murder people with no real repercussions. I will admit that he was the best part of Daredevil season 2 though.

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>>87768615
...And that was the wrong thread. Sorry guys,

>>87760939
I find that alignment often helps new players focus more in on what kind of personality their character would have, instead of just winging it and having it be all over the place. Definitely never be strict about it but I think it has uses for some people.

>>87755661
>Pre-stock your dungeons with monsters, traps, and treasures according to the rules.
nah, things are always better if the GM makes it up as you go. Or just plans the world out and lets the players sandbox it. Players always fuck up your plan anyway.

One of my favorite games went off the rails almost immediately, it was supposed to be a waring houses thing but we didn't like both houses. So we left to another island, built up an army, came back to stomp both houses.

>>87732681
Adventure Time - Dungeon Train

Not D&D, but a total dungeon-crawler, hack-and-slash, pile of euphoria. Loot! Give me the looooot!!

>>87767939
GW is the dumbest company ever to exist. I hope they go bankrupt so someone can actually run a proper company

>>87738656

>tfw your DM makes a garbage homebrew spell like Burst Of Cream and you literally cast nothing but it for 3 months until he finally makes it useful in one specific instance just so you'll be satisfied and stop using it
>tfw you never stop

>>87764159
Nope. AoE spells like that are usually just dex or con save or take full damage.

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Relevant

>>87733834
The way it should be.
Established conventions narrow minds.

>>87733444
>spreadsheet the game
>easier than rolling a d20

yeah, no.

>>87763876
I think anon was asking for an example of an episode fucking up DnD