How's Your Webcomic? #327

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>tfw artist you hired backed out on making concept art

Wasn't his fault or anything, but it still sucks

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

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>>87731630
Well that sucks.

Also I have been posting my french comic a while back to get answers here, I might put it here now, as I made a shoddy translation for you to see guys. Expect "normie" humor and shitty "humor" too.

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>>87731672
It's about a guy called Harry. He likes metal and drinking alcohol. Stupid shit happens.

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>>87731617
:)

stop using bad thumbnails.

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>>87731706
Also I made a comic about Donald Trump and Obama, which made my friends laugh.

>>87731718
NO

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>>87731733
Shit happens. I tried my hand at Genderbending stuff. I shouldn't have. I didn't know how to get out of this mess.

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>>87731770
I hate myself, that thing is cringe but i like tits

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>>87731809
This one is hard to translate? It's about Sarkozy, a french politician who tries to hard to be Donald Trump so he uses racist themes, but everyone hates him because he's basically the embodiment of the establishement.

Last panel says: " i walked into shit"

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>>87731880

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>>87731919

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>>87731972
The Trump one.

I like how I drew him but I fucking sucks at caricature.

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>>87732000
Here's the last one.

So yeah i'm looking for feedback so be constructive.

I beg you. I know 4chan.

>>87732021
tits

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>>87731617
hey alright, we're back. I'll just repost this
>>87731630
paying for it? a lot of us in here are pretty good concept artists. might get a replace.

>>87731672
I am already loving this, and not just because it may happen to paint certain types in a nicer light than usual.
>>87731706
even this is way nicer than this sort of thing usually is.
just a fix: that should be 'left Margaux TO do'
also dem som tig ol biddies and I'm sure that's intentional, but his hands should at least be larger and Margaux's arm is lookin' pretty stickly there. Gotta work on those.
>>87731733
hyeh hyeh hyeh.
>>87731770
This would normally be dragging the concept out too long, but it was funny. You're way funnier than most francophones I know. also you left 'attends' untranslated
>>87731809
okay NOW it's going past its limit
>>87731880
I understand enough fraunch to know basically what he's saying there. No idea how to feel about french politics though since they're kinda all kinds of half-backwards by our standards. just as long as it aint smug, it's good.
>>87731919
okay see now it's worth it again
>>87731972
demons are good. Starting to remind me of Krakow now. But hey shouldnt he have some metal hair if he's a metalhead?
>>87732000
first time i have ever laughed at anything remotely like this. good job.
>>87732021
I'm going to start referring to myself as "legacy" when I lament my rapidly dwindling leftover youth

>>87732919
Well man thanks for the feedback!

My art is really fluctuent, depending of the time of the day, but I guess it's guetting better.

Also I try to go beyond stereotypes. Harry may be a metalhead, that doesn't mean he should have the long hair. His friends does, tho.

I'm gonna experiment more. Also I'll probably put these up on a tumblr or DA or something.

>>87733161
>tumblr or DA or something
please go with 'or something'

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I keep reminding myself, "I'll get to reveal my secrets someday... maybe never."

But first I have to get through the boring set up part at the beginning called character/world building.

Anyone else ever afraid of going to slow?

>>87733412
man I only wish I'd had the patience back then, I hurried too much.

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>>87731617
What are some good tips for a beginner trying make a fighting genre webcomic?

>>87734420
check out something like http://www.slideshare.net/bruno13marques/how-to-draw-manga-vol-23-illustrating-battles
it goes into all the details of things like line of action, how to make an impact look solid and real instead of wimpy and flat. I think it'll be useful even in this nice 1999 newgrounds style you have going here

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>>87733412
I completely fucked up by trying to over manage dataflow.
Reboot.
In other news, Suddenly I can draw like 2x as fast, but I could totally use a flood fill slave.
1/4

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>>87734665
2/4

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>>87734688
3/4

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>>87734718

>>87734606
thanks

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Not posted here yet. Page 3.

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>>87735102
And page 4.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Tdu4uKSZ3M

I'm now taking a short break from drawing pages to improve the site and write more script, now that I know how it ends up looking on page.

>>87734420
Make sure you do a lot of people studies. I like watching certain types of music videos (pop types for the wild dancing and poses) and pausing them to do gesture drawings. It really helped. Remember that to be able to draw comfortably and efficiently in your own style, you first need to be able to draw realistically. It's like the base under your finished piece. Then, your style slowly comes out. Or if you already had one, it starts evolving into something more distinguishable. And of course, you'll be able to do all those action poses you'll need. Good luck lil dude

>>87735143
thank you

>>87735138
and the hook comes out! i'm still with you

dunno if its been covered by anyone already in a previous thread but has anyone got any advice about taking a comic to print? I've researched it a wee bit but every option seems too pricey to be worth it - as in, its gunna be about 50/60 quid per volume, which if fine for me gettin' one for myself as a keepsake but seems a tad pricey to ask what few readers i have to pay if they want a volume.

tl:dr - tips on actually printing volumes

>>87736045
how much is a volume?

as I understand it, you have to print like several hundred before it's cost-effective, and then you have to do the shipping yourself which becomes fucking maddening. I'm getting this from several comics I follow which have had this come up and they've told us about it. if you can get ahold of him, Jake Richmond might have advice

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Here is a new Monster Lands page: http://www.monster-lands.com/

Basically a very slight recap of Othera's adventure.

>>87736122
its just the first arc, its 246 pages - it's lookin more'n more like i'm just gunna have to accept that printin' plenty copies is gunna be a bit've a stretch...

>>87736836
yeah that's a lotta pages, man. gonna cost a mint and a half.

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>>87737152
considered kickstarter and that sort'a thing, but i genuinely dont think ive got the readership/social circle it'd take to fund it hahah - probably better just gettin' my personal copies and posting a link for whoever wants to buy it on the site - this was gunna be my cover image for the printed volumes

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Let's get page 69 on a roll

>>87738745
that is an intentional typo, right?
also you caught my typo fix the last time you posted, right?

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In the past couple of comics, the rest of the crew try to get to the park in time.

http://zyxcity.tumblr.com/

>>87736315
>>87737447
>>87738745
>>87739700

Neat stuff, keep it up!

What are some concepts or stories you want to see in a webcomic? Would you rather have something unique or something done to death, but well made?

>>87740773

Define "well made" and "unique" just a tad further here...

>unique story, bad writing
>cliche story, good writing

The latter

>unique, bad art
>cliche but well-drawn

The former

Post your absolute worst ideas for comics

When I was twelve (27 now) I wanted to make a wholesome Christian web-manga about fighting literally Satan in a dragon form. There was no plot and my characters were bland.

>>87740773
>concepts
a wreck of some kind with a robot or personality-having computer who is not remotely his old self, as he's way too damaged. the basic mannerisms are there but not the depth of personality or the memories

an impostor is exposed by asking a question they can't answer
the next time they're suspected, and it's that impostor again, they ask the same question, and readily give the answer
turns out they never told the real-one about that story, so now ONLY the impostor would know the answer
>stories
a rehabilitation center for captured invading-alien-gynoids that teaches them the wonders of being good guys through love and all that shit, then makes them into a team of crimefighters.. only IN PRACTICE that mostly means minor traffic-cop or litter prevention kinda shit, then, in the process of their training or their day-to-day bullshit, they stumble upon something more major and uses their superior abilities. kinda like that Booster Gold episode of justice league where he was supposed to be on crowd control but blundered into a bigger thing and learned how to be a real hero

>>87740972
it's sad how hard that shit is to do well. just once I wanna see muh epic righteous battles done in a way that feels a bit more Bill n' Ted and a bit less.. uh.. that one CGI show with the armor and like, the special visor to see demons... what was that?
don't even ask me about my RPG videogame ideas

>>87741049

The one that cr1tical riffed on on his YouTube side channel for shitposts?

Also your reverse psychology about the RPGs is working on me.

>>87741076
well honestly I don't have a lot of fleshed-out ideas, just inspiration. The good parts of those old wisdomtree games, without the bad parts. the most obvious idea has the clear flaw that A) a 13-member RPG party is hard to shuffle around, and B) they wouldn't have a ton to distinguish them since even Luke's doctor skills become kinda redundant when you have magic healing.

maybe it would be better to amp up the artistic license and go kinda Spawn with it. I dunno.

>>87741096

Had to look up what Wisdomtree was - I think the only Christian game I ever played was an extremely difficult text adventure my grandparents had. All I remember is finding a shekel on an altar or something and it wouldn't let me do anything except take the shekel.

Also nowadays I'm not religious (not asshole type atheist, mind you, just stopped believing), so 'Christian-themed' would be the 'bad part' for me. It feels like an advertisement made into something that's supposed to be fun, but the fun's sucked away by someone trying to sell you something (in this case, eternal salvation in exchange for your tithe).

>>87741218
>in exchange for
if it helps ya m8, anyone who says that isn't a believer either.
>advertisement
yeah i'm told that's why veggie tales continues to be popular. they focus more on the 'lesson' aspect.. and do it a lot better than most educational tv ever did

funny, and back on topic i'm not sure i've ever seen webcomics meant intentionally for kids. Seems like someone would, if just for fun.

>>87740972
two male 20somethings sit on a couch and play video games with an annoying robot companion

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>>87741324

The dude who does the Flight Anthologies is pretty kid-friendly. Next closest I can think of is Lunarbaboon (pic related), but that one has a pretty clear slant towards parents.

>save great walking pose reference from another comic that posts in here
>finally use it
>arm-swing isn't properly opposite the legs
heh, whoops. maybe i'm not that much worse than everyone after all

>>87741418
yeah there's plenty who intentionally go G, but I can't think of any with a specific aim for the wee ones, educational or otherwise. it's just interesting because, while rare, you do see examples of those in unexpected places like flash games (sissy's magical ponycorn adventure comes to mind) and of course EVERYONE wants to write the next big kids' book (as if it was possible for there to ever be something like Arthur again)
>some Es have white in them
what..

>>87741527

Didn't even notice the e thing. I guess he hasn't figured out layers. Also the comics have gotten worse since he had a second kid - probably because he's helping raise a baby now.

>>87739700
Fun expressions, add a lil' more detail and you're gold.

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I need to take a break from Greg and Goldie because it's eating up all my Lido effort/time but it's just fun

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>>87741853

>>87741580
least he didn't quit. i understand people getting busy, but what I don't get is the few who are lucky enough to be making a living doing comics, and then quit doing it because they have a baby.. what other kind of job are you gonna get where you can spend all your time at home with the baby? that saves massively on daycare, dude!
my dream is to just have my babies clinging to me all day while I draw and do other from home stuff, occasionally setting 'em down in another room to do voiceover or something

>>87741853
oof, already an inefficient method of sustenance and then you barf a little..
>>87741868
oh my god does he sleep in a trunk? that is too fucking cute even for greg

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>>87731617
I have completed inking for the bridge pages between different parts of "chapter 0" comic I have so far.

4 pages.
1/4

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>>87741973
Something I forgot to mention about that page, is that I actually redrawn the second panel by drawing it on a piece of paper, and than cut it out and glue it on top the original page.
2/4

>>87741950
It's a full-sized coffin. Possibly his? Depends on how the transformation went down.

>>87739110
Oh yeah it's intentional this time, the sign is gonna be as someone just put it there and half ass painted DETOUR on it to trick them (you're talking about detour right?)
and thanks again for the last one

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>>87742000
Uh, the central figure of that page, I mean.

3/4 Still on the to-do list, is spotting, speed /effect lines lines, and sound effects. I might try reinforce the line weight and then try coloring them at once.

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>>87742045
The Rococo's head on second panel there is also redrawn and pasted on by cutting out a piece of paper.

4/4 This is the last page I made that bridge from different section of the storyboards or pages that were done out of sequence. The next page is actually one of the earlier pages.

>>87742014
I guess I haven't seen a coffin lately, but it doesn't look like the cliche elongated-hexagon vampire coffin. either way all the fluffy blankets are adorable.
>>87742041
oh good. part of keeping your comic free of typos is so you can do intentional ones like that.
>>87742076
damn impressive as always. pasting panels in is something the professionals do

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feel like sharing a WIP here. Actually, do you guys think the order of the last three rows of panels is right? Without the last word bubble, I'd think the last row should go first.. but the rhythm's better this way.
Either way, the tagline reflects how I feel about this little deto(u)r. although.. no fucking way am I going to finish under 1000 this time. not if I keep having fun on the way to the end.

>>87742191
He's a fairly recent vampire, so it's a standard modern box coffin. He probably graverobbed it if it isn't his.

>>87734740
It's got a nice style visually keep it up

>>87741369
I still think it would be fun to do a gamers-on-a-couch thing once I've got a few action comics under my belt.

The catch would be that it stars the larger-than-life protagonists of my previous series, so it's a barbarian king, a space pirate and a magical girl playing video games and giving completely ridiculous opinions on them, and their zany non-human sidekick would be played by yet another previous protagonist wearing a dog suit (alternately they'd run around naked and just act like a dog. Only one of the other characters would notice).

>>87742242
yeah come to think of it, how often are vampires meant to have actually died and been buried? like, SOMEtimes, but not very often, not in the modern popculturey ones anyway.
once again my mythos makes it easy for me as they're just eccentrics and not undead in the slightest, but coffinbeds is exactly the kinda shit they would do
>>87742273
hey, if you're me, y-you have to admit it!

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>>87742690
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I started my comic out of spite, bitterness, and hatred, and then I never found a better motivation. So now I regularly have to whip myself into an emotional deathspiral to get the motivation to shove through the more heavy workloads.

Has anyone else ever had this problem?

>>87742961
What do you hate/spite that inspired you?

I can relate to writing things to spite other things for failing to live up to my personal standards. Greg and Goldie is literally "what if Twilight had nosferatus and fun main characters". Lido started in part as "I like all the stuff in fantasy but people rarely utilize it well enough to engage me".

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Bump. This panel might be a little too silly-looking for what's supposed to be a tense situation where people are panicking over a monster.

>>87743039
Got thrown out of a writing community, decided I'd go spitefully make something that will be more successful than their sitting around fiddling themselves.

>>87744543
That's amazing, Anon.
For alternate and more positive motivations you could try, though;
>print out comments from people that like your stuff and hang them over your workspace.
>look at your old stuff that sucks compared to what you're making now and think about how good you're eventually gonna get if you keep it up
>read through your archive to remind yourself how much effort you've put into it already and what a waste it would be to stop now. It's a fallacy, but it works.
>If you catch yourself thinking about why you think your particular story is worth writing, write that down and keep it as a reminder.

>>87742703
Jeez, this critter reminds me of Tick's capybara.

>>87744543
>thrown out of a glorified ideas guy community
How?

>>87736045
What about producing a single issue of around 28 pages to start with, rather than a full 246pg GN?
You'll also probably want to start looking into attending conventions as an exhibitor, in order to sell those comics.

You could also try comiXology Submit if you wanted to put out a digital collection.

If you're UK based and on facebook, you should take a look at the CVA and CATS groups.
http://cvacats.com/

>>87744640
There's no answer to this question that doesn't sound like cringy salt.

>>87744617
These are good ideas. Couple of them seem to parallel well with a few things that've worked out for me in the past.

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Current Wip, not sure the dialogue in panel two makes sense.

>>87746080
Took me a second to understand.
I think something in the vein of "Would you be this sad if you'd lost me?" sounds more natural.

In the final panel, the top of blondie's hair kind of looks like the black girl's mouth. Probably won't be a problem once it gets colored.

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>>87746151
I see, thanks a lot! Will make sure to fix by the time I colour. Same for the hair strand over the mouth.

Also, have this one ready to colour, I think this one is the first strip completely dialogue-less I made. I think it still begs some fixing, but I'm falling sleep over the keyboard, so I'll leave that for later.

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>mfw want to play pokemon sun/moon this week
>busy as fuck this week too
fffuuuckkk
who's suffering with me?

>30 pages

Fuck me.

>>87746926
The trick to eating a whale is taking one bite at a time, Anon.

>>87740972
A teen is unwittingly the reincarnation of Adolf Hitler - he doesn't share any political views or aspirations for power, it's basically in-name-only because the reincarnationed people are truly just shaped by their upbringing. This is only known by a secret society that tracks reincarnations of historical figures and probes them psychically to get a better read on the historical events of the time. His best friend is a member of the society, a reincarnation of Alexander Hamilton, and has to lobby on his friend's behalf within the society because the kneejerk reaction everyone has is to treat him like shit. There's also a fear he'll be discovered by modern followers of Hitler and whatever the fuck that would spark.

It was intended to be a drama-romance with a LOT of angst - he's a very sensitive boy, very romantic, flashbacks to Nazi Germany would fuck with him very badly. I ended up abandoning the story because I don't think the intersection of history and fantasy would jive well. I don't think I could handle it with the gravitas it requires. I was about 12 when I wrote it.

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I haven't been in these threads for a while since I've basically just been doing commission work or art trades. I'm back at it with the animations though and even got permission to use an entire album of 90s techno made for an unreleased video game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0ke6ac-O0k&index=1&list=PLhJYEHL2UDhU1zkItMvDBk2zxvT7VGP_v

Pic related is the progress on the background I've been working on for a while, it's about 2/3rds done now.

>>87740972
For a while I was working on a comic in middle school about a psychic who enters peoples minds in a psychonauts-esque fashion to perform exorcisms. It was super grimdark and edgy.

>>87731630
What was the concept art for? I've been interested in getting involved with some collaborative projects.

>>87742690
>>87742703
amazing art, but reaaaaallly not the face i would expect for a critter like that
also kind of distinct spots to have on fur that shaggy

>>87744149
It does seem to be a little, but... not like hard to take seriously, just looks like Skeggy isn't. Maybe if Skalmold's pupils were a little smaller she'd look more super shocked.

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>>87744149
The way the lower character's brows are lowered makes them look bored or skeptic. Raise the eyebrows and add some stress lines to indicate they're panicked. You did a good job with the other person's face. Pic related is a quick example of what you could do.

>>87742703
I agree with this anon>>87748351 the face makes the character really unattractive to look at which betrays your artistic abilities. Also to make it feel more like an environment and less like a background try and add more details to the sky like vague clouds or birds and possibly distant structures or even juist silhouettes. It feels too much like these are the only two characters in existence and this cliffside exists in a void.

>>87737447
your line art is good but you really need to make a color palette for this. The colors are everywhere and there is nowhere for the eye to be drawn. Lighting is all over the place and it really keeps it from having a good atmosphere despite your drawing talent. Try and work the logo into a frame or a plaque, with how it is only separated by a gradient it looks pretty cheap. Even just darkening the edges to draw focus to the center would help a little.

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>>87748499
>>87748767
Oh, sorry, I didn't mean to come across as a "oh god how do I fix this please help" sort of post. The panel was intentionally silly looking, but after drawing up the rest of the page I felt like having a silly visual gag like Short-hair's limbo pose and deadpan expression while her friend is panicking threw off the tension too much. I was just posting to bump the thread off of page 9.

>>87748351
Thanks,dude.Im pretty pleased with the way it looks.I'm thinking that I will just leave it like this

>>87748767
You got me,Im terrible artist

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and with this i now have enough sketches for the first few pages to be completed.

The Glass Fruit Tree.

>>87740972
a sitcom in comic form thats only funny after the characters are built up long enough.

I still want to do it but am afraid itll take too long to start getting good

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>>87749695 I'm assuming you're the same poster as this >>87749617 and somehow you were too braindead to condense your responses to one post.

Nobody said your art was terrible you flaming faggot. They gave you some ways you could improve and despite the fact both responses agreed there was a problem with your work (the fucking hideous character design) you just ignored it like an autistic deviant art user and acted like you were being attacked. If you're going to ignore criticism why did you come here? It wasn't even harsh. If you're just wanting complements and not looking to improve then get the fuck out you egotistical retard. I personally disagree with the people who critiqued your work anyway. they were at least nice enough to say you have talent which IMO is an incredibly generous but false statement. Have fun stagnating in your shitty art "style" wondering why nobody likes it while also refusing to listen to outsider input.

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Cover for an idea I have. First time I tried watercolor paints, so forgive the garbage

Basically the idea is about a soft-ass beta nerd who gets dumped by his gf that he's financially dependent on, moves back in with his mom, and one of his childhood friends gets him into the bloody and frankly fascinating world of medieval combat tournaments. He spends most of his time getting his ass kicked but he eventually starts to git gud, and starts to get in TOO DEEP with the sport.

Idea came to me after doing HMB for a little while and reading "Boys on the Run"

>>87734665
>>87734688
>>87734718
>>87734740

I like the retro feel of your style, but you put too much text into some panels, even by old school standards.
If you have to do it every now and again that's fine, but please not on almost every page.

That said, I'm glad you're posting here again. I have a soft spot for older comics myself and I kinda missed seeing your stuff around.

>>87749725
that's crazy stuff
>>87750261
overreacting a bit, just gonna make it worse

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In today's comic, the Markuso Sisters get called for a new mission!

>>87750512
Sounds pretty interesting.

>>87750681
Going into Power Rangers territory, I see.

>>87750261
Sorry ,I really didn't mean to provoke you in any way.It is true that I'm sensitive about my shit.But I don't think that I was somehow rude to anyone here.I like my leopard bunny design.And I made minimum background design intentionally,so that it would read faster.Establishing shoot on the first page hopefully proves that I can do decent envo.Sorry if I'm offended any of you guys

>>87750512
Mite b cool, but the guy's design is neither particularly cool or memorable, nor does it look like something you'd see at BotN or wherever. The helmet-mask combo is a cool idea though, keep that.

>>87750934
>nor does it look like something you'd see at BotN

Really? The armor I designed is heavily inspired from what I've worn at club meet-ups. The only thing I took from imagination was actually his kettle-helm/chainmail mask.

You're right though, it's not something super memorable- I'm still trying to find a balance between something that isn't super anime and flashy, and something that's completely dull.

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Oh I also finished the basic character sheet for "Dupe" my animated persona character that will be narrating the reviews in this setting >>87747810. I think having his colors change depending on moods will be fun to animate. I also came up with explanation for how he can exist in the universe of my comic "vegabonds" while also having knowledge of things in reality.

>>87749268
Oh ok, the way you worded it made it sound unintentional.

>>87750261
Calm down dude.

>>87750772
I know I don't care, and I'm the one who gave the critique in the first place. If you don't agree with my critiques then it's whatever. I think that angry anon was over-reacting like >>87750661
stated.

>>87747810
Looking good as always, and congrats on getting permisson to use the music.

One little thing, the way you colored DUPLEXIDE makes it read "dupli-exide" or "dupli- no, wait".
I'm guessing you did it this way either because you wanted the split through the middle or because you felt the split letter would be a good visual representation of... well, the split color scheme. But, right now, it doesn't really work on a lettering basis.

You do seem to put a lot more effort into this project than I have ever seen a reviewer do, that's really nice to see.

>>87751008
It just seems like a mishmash of different styles*, where it's my impression that most practitioners go for historical authenticity except where safety doesn't allow it when making a kit (I know some of the big tournaments make it a requirement). But if it's supposed to be a mishmash of borrowed gear because he's new, I guess it makes sense.

I know it's nitpicking, but I think anyone who checks out a comic about a guy getting into this kind of extreme nerd sport would be interested in that kind of detail.

*specifically, he's got 15th century plate armor with an older style multi-part kettle hat, a skirt of scale mail and a narrow, open-sided tabard that I'm pretty sure fantasy artists just plain made up

>>87751253
Thanks,bro,and thanks for the feedback,I admit that I was kinda of fagot for not doing it right away.But I'm faping to traps regularly so that makes me kinda of one

>>87751408
Yes- the only thing the character owns for himself in that picture are the helmet and longsword. Everything else is "club kit". I'll be doing a bunch of explaining about the sport as well in the background and on side pages and stuff for the readers.

I'm kind of planning on exaggerating the sport anyway- it'll be less safer, a bit more violent (as if it could get more violent), and part of the plot involves him eventually fighting for big money and getting intertwined with some scary people. Obviously none of that really happens in HMB (as far as I know of anyway)

>>87751498
Going from a mishmash of club kit to his own personalized flamboyant suit would provide a neat visual character arc.
Maybe exaggerate the bad fit and maintenance of the club kit a bit? Like, give him gauntlets that don't match, big dents in the large armor plates, straps that have been replaced with duct tape, pins that are supposed to attach to pieces of armor he's not wearing... Something to make it obvious even to people who aren't big nerds.

>Obviously none of that really happens in HMB (as far as I know of anyway)
I hear a lot of rumors about corruption, doping and mob involvement in the eastern European tourneys. Of course, that might just be the west Euros being butthurt that the Russians keep pounding them flat every year at BotN. True or no, it might be worth looking into for inspiration.

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>>87751378
Thanks a lot, I really appreciate the input. I'll close that gap more in the E for readability sake Like what I did in pic related. When you spend hours drawing a word it kind of stops registering mentally as one so it's hard to tell if it's readable without outside help.

And to be honest the "game review" thing is just an excuse to do art I think people will actually see. It's also because I have hundreds of 90s shareware games I can't even find much record of their existence, much less reviews. So I have unique content. Though at this point I have probably put more time and effort than anyone else ever has for game reviews. That's kind of satisfying.

>>87733377
what site should i go to?

>>87751855
drunkduck, comicgenesis, comicfury, any of these are fine

>>87751762
A lot more readable already!

That's kind of what I meant - I like watching reviews every now and then, but I've never seen anyone go the extra mile like this, so your stuff certainly stands out.
Never really thought of that as a possible way of gaining an audience, but I could totally see it work.
One problem might be keeping a frequent enough update schedule though, depending on how much unique art/animation you intend to create for each episode.

>>87752007
drunkduck, really?

>>87752286
they all have their problems. drunkduck doesn't let you comment without an account, but it's a hell of a lot better than tapastic, yknow

>>87752350
I thought taptastic wasn't that bad

>>87752533
if you can look at a tapastic site and see nothing wrong with it, then I guess for you it's not that bad

>>87752149
Well I'm glad that's fixed then.

The fact people are liking it despite it not even being out yet is really self assuring that it's something new and interesting (I've already received around 7 pieces of fan art). The plan is to do video game reviews to garner a small audience and then launch my web-comic that is set in the same sci-fi universe so I'll have an audience to begin with. I feel like if i started with wholly original content it would be an uphill battle to get any viewers.

As for the updating schedule I'll have around 20 or so body animations, reusable face parts for a variety of expressions, a lipsynching system I've already finished and a few other things I'll animate before the first episode even airs. That way I'll have material I can mix around with endless variation, I've got some flack for this but what inspired me here was that it's the way Zone does all their ZTV news episodes and they look pretty good for a single animator. Every episode will have some unique animations and graphics but many of the more varying ones will be in the form of Dupe's own drawings and won't have many frames. I'm confident with the systems I've made I could make one episode every week if needed, each containing 5 games.

>>87752737
I frankly don't know the site, so please, enlighten me

>>87752809
well here i'll advertise for harro, check this out
http://tapastic.com/series/A-BETTER-PLACE
very little of that is modifiable at all. almost all the tapastic sites are the same.

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Honest how does it look?

>>87753084
your notes are too damn entertaining to waste
If you're so worried about the nothing, though.. you could move panel 2 up next to a squished-in panel 2, then you'd have more room for panel 4 not to have to overlap with the panels on the left.

>>87753084
Bretty gud.
More use of ruler for straight lines, and making your outlines as dark as the panel borders would help.

>>87752937
So the layout sucks. Mhh. I want a clean site, with my buttons and shit. Might not get taptastic.

Which site gives me the chance to get more noticed, then?

>>87753332
the site's irrelevant, what matters is where you post the URL for people to see it.
true tumblr has this way of quickly linking to other things on tumblr, but it's just as easy to link websites, which they do just as often.

>>87753447
oh and I forgot to say, not sure about some other hosts, but tumblr doesn't let you do a straight up blank, it requires a bunch of bullshit. comicgenesis does, though it uses a template system you can custom do the HTML like you would anything, and you just include certain text strings that it searches for when it generates the pages from templates you make. on the minus side, their staff is almost nonexistent at this point

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>>87753505
Might look into that.

Also I did a funny.

>>87754791
mm, the venting is solid, but the punchline is limp-wristed and weak. I guess the only real gag is that she's a demon so she KNOWS. but that's the kind of thing people say anyway.

the title helps though, since I know the reference. Might help to translate it since 'hell is other people' is well known in englishspeakinglands.

also is that steven fucking seagall?

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Having a really shitty day

To the Anon from the past thread, hope this has some better line variation for you

>>87754791
I think this one would be funnier without Harry's response. What the demon is saying is the actual punchline, but having something after that makes me assume it's going to be at least as funny... and since it isn't, that's kind of a let down.

>>87752937
hey thank you!

>>87753332
I would suggest having your comic up in more than one place- tapastic has a large and hungry community, but every site has its own advantages!

>>87754938
I need to work on punchline and writing, yeah.

>>87754850
And no, that's not Steven seagal, just an ugly woman in tracksuit to look like she does sport.

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>>87754900
Here's the first page for context. Not that it'll help

>>87750549
Man, you are totally correct.
The text dies way, way, way down after page 4, and I am going to relaunch with over 25 pages, maybe 30 (16 of my current pages are usuable in the new draft.) so hopefully, these text heavy pages can be forgiven.
Point taken, though.

>>87755008
>woman
i was wondering why he wasnt getting arrested, but at the same time it's a shock to see a lady depicted negatively. good job.

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Been working on my own thing, mostly for practice. But a small group of people seem to be really into it.

Though, I'd like to take on another, more fruitful project, if there are any writers who are looking to hire.

>>87755680
>Writers
Uh, you sure you don't mean artists? Writers are kind of dime-a-dozen

>>87755847
>>87755680
Whoops, done fucked up reading your post. Ignore that

>>87755847
Good writers sure as fuck aren't.

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>tfw art is shit so I spend forever doing a single panel over and over

>>87748767
shall take it under advisement, appreciate the critique,

Unrelated, but also not worth creating a thread:
I'm having a hard time tracking down a webcomic I used to read. It was about some republican guy who worked in an office with a democrat girl, and snarked at her. Standard newspaper quality stuff, but I'm curious to go back and see how I like it now.

which panel is the best? the first one on a page? the last one? third panel? frying panel?

>>87731617
Are there some good resources for scripting/paneling? I have a running outline for my first chapter, but I'm having trouble making layouts for the individual pages.

>>87760493
the one that's not drawn like shit

>>87760493
In my opinion first panel is best for opening and establishing an event, middle panels are great for action scenes and exposition, and finally last panel are really great at ending a scene or event (like the end of a massive fight or having the character wallow in shame and other emotions after such fight).

>>87761152
is there not one in the OP? lately I've heard a lot of people asking for stuff like this, and I would like to know how to answer them. but I've never really gone through all that stuff myself
>>87761223
>>87761242
wasn't expecting such sensible responses. I was just bumping.

>>87762154
There are materials regarding writing and plotting, but not nessecarily anything like the "theory" behind the execution of comic layouts/paneling, or dos/don'ts; which is what I'm having trouble with.

>plan to make short webcomics to put in portfolio to get a job
>comics are getting liked and faved and all that other shit by industry folks
>none of those "i posted art on the internet!" job offers

Fuck this stupid shit. Still gonna make comics though.

>>87762417
sounds like we need to add to the OP

>>87762486
that's good
sounds great
what? that sentence makes no sense.

>>87762512
A lot of industry people claim they got a job because they posted art online and got noticed.

A lot of industry professionals tell aspiring artist to posts artwork online to get noticed.

I got noticed, but did not get job.

>>87762691
post link

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threadly progress
are these values too muddy?
I'm still not very good with them
experimenting while in the middle of drawing comics was probably a bad idea

>>87762691
there are more steps than that, silly billy. You get noticed, then you KEEP getting noticed, until one day that guy that noticed you goes "hey, I heard of an opening, there's this guy I remember.. i've seen him a number of times exceeding 1, i'll reccommend him!"

>>87763118
the characters stand out, that matters the most

I have a crippling inferiority complex when it comes to my comic pages (but surprisingly not my art). I think I just hate my own writing. Anyway, I don't think I'll ever share the entirety of my comic with anyone and it will most likely be found only after I die (or thrown away more likely), but I guess what I'm trying to say is, would it be okay to just post random pages here and there to share? I'm not comfortable with posting the whole thing, but I have a few pages I'm proud of.

And no, it's not porn. Sorry.

>>87763297
Yes, post away

>>87763297
as long as the number of pages is under.. oh.. say.. seven.. then yes.
otherwise put it all on an imgur or something and give us a link

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Hey guys - I do a comic called Those Unknowable, been at it for over two years now. I posted here a long time ago on a webcomic critique thread and took a lot of the advice to heart - I think there's a very huge leap in quality from when I started and I can't be more pleased.

For those curious it's sort of a more action-oriented simplified take on Lovecraft lore and mythos, with anthro monsters versus humans in a saturday morning cartoon kind of aesthetic.

Have you heard of me? :D If not, and you wanna take the time to check it out, let me know what you think!

>>87765214
i'm surprised I haven't heard of this. it sure sounds good on paper. wanna link us?

Designing visually simple characters is much more difficult than designing elaborate ones.

>>87765602
for a variety of reasons, too.
though they're a lot easier to draw over and over

>>87765638
It's just like programming. Do some thinking upfront or suffer continuously.

>>87765503
Let's see if it's good in practice? Heh
http://thoseunknowable.com

>>87750681
That's quite a set of buck teeth.

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>>87763118
Your perspective is a bit messed up.

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>tfw haven't updated comic in so long you're scared of logging back in

>>87757938
try drawing a tiny little scribble of what you intend to draw so

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New Bits & Bytes page is up. Main characters decide on important aspects of incoming wedding, plus there're recent Indie success guests in the diner.

It's the second time Gretha steals Lakitu's cloud. (see page 51) http://bitsandbytescomic.tumblr.com/

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havent drawn in a few weeks. need to get back to drawing more.

trying to salvage an abandoned comic.

>>87767042
the perspective is fine. the over all look is what matters more

>>87762691
The fact that you got noticed means you can take your portfolio to a con and be recognized.

>>87767264
do some comics before you log in, feelguy

>>87768579
Yeah, I'm hoping I'll get there soon. Like climbing a mountain, keep my eyes on the summit but be mindful of the steps I have to still take to get there.

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>Have so many different ideas you cant progress with anything because as soon as you start working on one, one of the others seems more attractive to work one

>>87769546
Happens to everyone, you just gotta learn to deal.
Nebulous and unspecific ideas are always less scary to work with than concrete ones.
Pick one and force yourself to stick with it. You can still work on other things so long as you do that one first.

>>87769546
Oh, yes, welcome to the club.

Here's what I do: I write the idea down somewhere (a notepad, a TXT file, you choose), so the idea is out of my mind. Then I take a look at everything I have, and decide which one I am more into, right now.

Then I try to compromise. And focus. And yeah, it's difficult... but it's worth a try.

>>87765884
Definitely. It is also really easy to slip a in design element that you'll grow to hate drawing.
God.

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>>87755073
>>87754900
And here's the last page to the whole thing. Just finished it

>>87765884
you speak as if continuous suffering is optional somehow

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>>87751378
Ok I got back to work on this and I think I fixed it. You're right, it looks way more readable now.

>>87765885
site doesn't load at all until I accept the root url in noscript
then the only thing on the page is a redirect to a different site on webcomic.ws
why didnt you just link that

>>87768460
you meant 'maid of honor', right?