Lying: the TV show

>>87722939
>show called the Flash
>pacing slower than The Turtle

You're not fooling me!

>>87722966
Pacing is pretty fast.

You forget how drawn out cape TV used to be in the days of "Smallville" and "Heroes".

>>87723488
It's definitely faster than other shows but it's got a long way to go. Pacing was the main reason I didn't watch shows in the old days and the reason I don't watch them today.

But that makes me wonder. How's the pacing for even older shows like Adventures of Superman and 60'a Batman?

>>87722939
Ended at Season 2 and the Writers Were In a Corner: the TV show

>>87722939
>I have a huge problem that I can't possibly solve on my own!
>I know! I'll lie about it. Maybe say its for their own protection
I could never be friends with these people

>>87722939

Flash has developed the Arrow disease. Let's hope it doesn't spread to Supergirl or LoT

>>87726661
>Flash has developed the Arrow disease.

Barry randomly fell in love with Caitlin and the entire show is now about their relationship?

>>87723526
I feel like Lois and Clark was kind of slow but it wasn't really about the long plots as much as the character interactions so it wasn't a pain to watch (though it shouldn't have taken like 3 seasons for them to get together).

>>87728442
I think he means more that they have no real plots in mind and are just throwing out references to keep comic fans watching.

>>87728501
They clearly have a plot, though. You're free not to like it, but to claim it's not there is blatantly false.

Then again "they didn't plan it enough" seems to be the go-to asspull for when someone wants to appear objective in their criticisms.

>>87728535
I think you're misunderstanding what I mean. They have one main villain plot in mind, but they don't really think things through on how they'll get to point B from point A very well. You can just tell when they are biding time at certain points. The side stories don't tend to support the main ones well. And after 3 seasons they are still bad at thinking up ways to defeat villains.

I would consider all of these to be plotting issues at least. Maybe we're categorizing them differently though.

>>87728442
Felicity: The Sequel

>>87728617
I fail to see how you can make such assessments given how quickly they've progressed the Savitar/Alchemy storyline already. I also disagree with your other two points, particularly the second one, since this season has been the most creative with neutralizing villains AND they're adressing head-on the criticism that Barry didn't come up with enough solutions on his own.