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Talkback thread
>>87712489

Episode

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Promo Next Episode

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wC7--Kk2A5g
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>>87715764
GIVE ME THE ALLSPARK, AND YOU MAY LIVE TO BE MY PET
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UPCOMING EPISODES

7. Killer Frost (November 22, 2016)
>Caitlin uses her powers to save Barry, but as her mother predicted, the effort unleashes her inner Killer Frost. She then goes on a rampage looking for Doctor Alchemy, kidnapping Julian and battling both The Flash and Vibe. Meanwhile, Joe and H.R. have a heart to heart talk.

8. Invasion! (November 29, 2016)
>Barry joins forces with Green Arrow (Stephen Amell), Supergirl (Melissa Benoist) and the Legends of Tomorrow to protect Earth from the Dominators, aliens armed with advanced mind-control technology who have deemed humanity a threat due to the surging meta-human population.

9. Title Unknown (December 6, 2016) - MIDSEASON FINALE
>Barry confronts Savitar and uncovers a secret that leave the entire world in jeopardy. Meanwhile, Doctor Alchemy's identity is exposed.
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>>87715782
So whose time remnant is this?
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Someone please make a webm of Vibe vs. Killer Frost.
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>caitlyn is having her period at the same time she is becoming killer frost

there, everything makes sense now
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>>87715818

>wellsobard 2.0
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>>87715840
>Caitlin's period has been ongoing for months
This woman has the patience of a saint.
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>>87715818
Hell's Wells'
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>>87715840

anon you've never been with a woman have you.
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>>87715782
Mandatory speculation that it is Eddie. and the blue stuff from S1 finally gets some payoff.
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>>87715911

I have been with the same woman for 16 years anon.
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>>87716004
the only way this would make sense is if you were a 16 year old girl
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>>87716026

I am 31 years old, anon.
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>>87716034
>He had 31 years
>Still on 4Chans
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>>87716069

While I was the other guy shitting on him, I'm also in my late 20s, anon you'll find after you do everything you need for life, it still ends up sucking.

>>87716034


I guess you're just unlucky anon, my woman gets horny on her period.
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>>87715764
Caitlin something something blue balls ...
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>>87715818
>Those speedster powers
>That blue look in his eye
Post yfw Savitar is Eddie Thawne
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HD Look at Savitar The Transformer
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>>87715997

That blue thing was to power up the particle accelerator.
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>>87716069
It'll happen to you.
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mega link for the latest ep? I usually watch live but I was busy and I can't do P2P on campus.
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>>87716125

I don't care if people hate it, that suit is sexy and we finally get away from the cw's shitty leather fetish.
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>>87716141
Likely story. As I don't remember anything about it
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>>87716143
>28 yrs old
I'm already half way there.
Half way there.
Half way there.
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>>87716190
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PNKhCP9csw
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>>87716086
>>87716143

Just having a little fun, guys
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slightly off topic, but I've been browsing AO3 and the amount of Kara Danvers x Lucy Lane and Alex Danvers x Maggie Sawyer fanfics both seem to have skyrocketed.
did something happen on the Supergirl show?
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>>87715782
my thoughts exactly. WTF did you do to my Savitar, Berlanti?!?
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>>87716220
I did say it was likely
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>>87716264
Fuck your Savitar.
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>>87716307

you think that looks better?
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>>87716244
No. They're just friends.
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>>87716364
Not that guy but IMO both suits look bad. They should've dressed him in robes.
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>>87716244

they sidelined male love interest and pushed all the women to forefront.
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>>87716244
Lucy Lane?

Are you sure it's not Lena Luthor?
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>>87716460

we'll have to agree to disagree because I think it looks awesome and isn't leather.
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>>87716460
Robes are perhaps the least practical outfit for a speedster.
>>87716364
I think literally anything looks better than the comic Savitar.
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>>87716488

I agree.
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>>87715764
Anyone mind telling me how to use a Magnet link on qBittorrent? I uninstalled utorrent back when they started data mining and haven't had to use a direct magnet link for qBittorrent yet.
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How come they didn't make Savitar into the first completely nude speedster? It would have been closer to his comic look.
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>>87716469
Yeah. I meant Lena.
sry
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>>87716488
I'm all for not directly translating source material, but to redesign Savitar and make him look like fucking Megatron is just HORRIBLE
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>>87716469
I think the fandom just misses Lucy because she disappeared without a word

Also the Lucy/Kara fans are probably feeling territorial since they finally defeated Super Cat but now Lena/Kara is moving in on their turf
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>Savitar is so fast he's literally impossible

Screw you, /co/. I like speedster villains.
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>>87716526
Copy the following

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Then paste it in the thingy to the left of the + (plus) icon
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>>87716564
Thanks. the real issue was that I wasn't copying the "magnet: " part. I feel like an idiot right now.
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>>87716364
>>87716488
>>87716506
I think comic Savitar looks pretty rad. He looks like an insane bad-ass.
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>>87716639
Right?
The least they could have done was put some gold on him. If you would have showed me a picture of that before it aired, I would have thought it was fake.
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>>87716639
>>87716684
He looks like a male stripper who got lost on his way to a Flash-themed bachelorette party.
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>>87716639

I don't know why you're linking to people that disagree with you, it isn't going to go anywhere. Just agree to disagree because he looks like a faggot in comics.

this new version is bad ass.
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How come Barry was the only one who could see Savitar even though he was standing still?
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>>87716824

he is god of the speedforce.. anyone that uses it even tangibly is going to be inferior to him eventually.
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>>87716824
Savitar was moving so fast he couldn't be detected, but Barry's connection to the speed force means he can adjust his perception to see things moving slower than they are.
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>>87716824
It seems that only people in direct physical contact with Savitar can see him.
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>>87716755
I was stating my opinion. Not trying to change their opinions.
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>>87716875
Savitar wasn't moving when he was choking Barry but no one could see him while they could see Barry.
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>>87716903
I assumed Savitar is always vibrating so fast he's not visible to the human eye.
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>>87717077

you know what else breaks the visible spectrum? light refraction. it's what the army is working on for camo cloaks for tanks and other invisibility technologies.

Who else mentioned light refraction in this episode?
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>>87716824
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>>87717110

also what other technology was able to change the perception of everyone in the room?

hmm
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>>87716181
Yeah, but it's not even a physical suit.
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>>87717110
If it were just refractive armor, Barry wouldn't be seeing him like everyone else.
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>>87717137

because of his abilities, I'd argue he is the only person capable of naturally changing his eyes and how they view the spectrum, since changing the frequency with how your eyes 'see' the spectrum, it's something like the way your eyes are catching light and refracting it, so if you're oscillating the eyes, the light would hit them at different frequencies, so he could change his eyes to see at different ratios
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>>87717077
He wouldn't be able to grab Barry like he did if that was the case. At least if he could choose which parts vibrate, they would've been able to see his hand at least.
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>>87717188
Then how come he didn't automatically see through HR's disguise like you're saying he automatically saw Savitar?
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>>87717232

If you inverted the technology, instead of changing the visible spectrum, you're moving something out of the visible spectrum, think of it as a sliding scale.

You're changing frequency of light and the object it is connecting with and whatever magic maguffan nanobots allow the light to be modified to make his appearance different instead of just fading out of the visible spectrum.

I think the face changer is more than one tech at work and invisibility is just the main (single) technology on a sliding scale.
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>>87717110
>>87717135
Nah, nah, it'd have to be HR's partner, not HR himself. He honestly just doesn't strike me as a smart person, and I can't imagine *any* version of Wells that would pretend to be of average intelligence.
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>>87717263

which now that I think about it, the suit might not be real either, it might be a disguise like the face changer, just some shit thrown on to make him look more intimidating.

I guess we'll see if the stabbing blade works or not. I bet he doesn't get stabbed.
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>>87717288

if you want to get away with a big lie, you need to constantly distract people with other lies, that way they never know where to look.
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anyone got the "next week on"?
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>>87717308
That would still require him to be an inhumanly large man to hold Barry up against the ceiling like that.
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>>87717351
See the last section of the OP.
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>>87717354

We have no clue extent of his abilities or tech yet but there is no way they can afford to keep using that cgi which makes me think it is a disguise.
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>>87717393
I didn't save the pictures, but one the photos from the finale shooting he's shown in a CGI suit.
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>>87717637

i'm not sure what that means then, maybe we won't see much of savitar then?
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>>87716364
The TV version looks way better IMO, I also felt the Zoom costume was a great improvement over the comic version which was basically identical to Thawne's.

Hunter Zolomon may have been ruined in the show but if they ever bring him back for the comics he should wear the black suit.

Also I hope they give Savitar his speedster army like the comics, that was pretty epic so I wonder if the shows budget can pull it off.

There are already rumours that Savitar is Eddie but as much as I want him to return it shouldn't be as him, wouldn't be angry if he did though. I miss Eddie :'(
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>>87717791

I want eddie back too but I feel like that would cheapen him, especially after what he did to save the day.

He's listed as quantico, castle and some film so far this year and don't see anything else listed for him so not sure.

I thought people were arguing that he should be cobalt blue or something.

I don't know. They have this penchant for wanting to have a twist and they rarely do good at it anymore so..

I hope savitar is someone we know already, but on other end of it could end up worse than zoom, so maybe they shouldn't reveal him.

I don't know.
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Why does Joe have to suffer every time he's around Wells?
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I liked Savitars look.
Atleast it isnt recolour of flash-s leather.
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I live on campus, can someone make a MEGA link?
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So, Julian is Alchemy, right?
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>>87715782
the worst

When are we getting real Rogues and not evil speedsters? Because every subsequent one becomes lamer and lamer
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>>87717637
You're kidding. They can't have shot the season finale already.
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>>87716244
Alex decided she was gay and wanted to fist Maggie and Maggie told her since she was a new gay they should just be friends
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>>87717924
Of course, multiple personality disorder.
>>87717927
The season midfinale, he means. Here's the picture.
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>>87717924
No, he's Savitar.

>>87717949
Ah, makes more sense.

>He's got Iris
Oh come on. I mean, it's an obvious move, but damn. Really?
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>>87717971
>he's Savitar
They have the same voice actor, Savitar's is just a bit modulated. Maybe he's both of them.
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look at me

I am the BluePower now
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>>87717868
Savitar is a literal God in this universe by the looks of it. Doubt he'll have an alter ego, he's gonna be a force of nature. The real mysterious villain is Alchemy but he could be Julian I guess.
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>>87717994
Savitar's just a dude juiced up on speed powers with an ego. Jay reminding Barry they're not gods was probably deliberate foreshadowing.
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>>87718012

Savitar at least so far in show reminds me of that origin the new flash comics had for RF, where he goes back from his future where he is king in crystal cities, and goes back to destroy flash's influence on future or whatever, I'm not sure if it is nu52/rebirth or what but it must have been last year when I read it and that kind of ego where you go back in time to destroy someones image because it is used by your enemies to say you're not as great as this other guy..seems kind of like what they want to do with savitar so far
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>>87717924
I think it would be too obvious, but now that they're making us think Savitar and Alchemy are the same it might be trying to throw us off.
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Danielle is cute
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>>87718012
It looks like they might go a step further in the show though given he'd be pretty similar to Zoom if they don't shake it up.

I wanted Zoom to have no secret identity and be a malevolent force of nature or someone possessed by the speed-force in a venom-like way.

But it turned out to be Jay with daddy issues. If they'd had followed the comic Zoom i'd have liked it more but TV Zoom was a disappointment.

So I'm hoping they'll make Savitar more of an apocalyptic supernatural force rather than a deluded air-force pilot like the comics, but an appearance from Max Mercury wouldn't be unwelcome...
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>>87718047
First off, Nu52 Eobard was fucking garbage, like everything else Venditti did, and second off, there has been no indications whatsoever as to any goals Savitar might have.
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>>87716460
Savitar originally wore robes. He just took them off to start running.

fuckin plebs man
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>>87718100

I'm not an expert but he seems like he has that kind of ego, but you're right we haven't seen enough yet for any kind of 'plans'
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>>87717791
don't whitewash savitar
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>>87718100
They hinted at the real Eobard several times through Flash Rebirth so he'll be back soon. DC have said Rebirth's second year focuses more on the rise of the villains now that they've reestablished the heroes foundations.
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I'm amazed there isn't more outrage at how the show just completely wasted Shade.
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>>87718128
It's not like he even has a face in the show, he probably doesn't even have one. And I'd whitewash Savitar to get Eddie back anon...
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>>87718159
I nearly forgot he was even in it, what a waste though. He was one of the better villains and had great lore around him. At least he's appearing in the comics this month as the main villain.
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now that was kino
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>>87717917
It'll be up here when it is:
https://www.reddit.com/r/megalinks/
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Can someone red pill me on savitar?
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>>87717992
>vlc-record
Never.
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>>87718217
Thanks m8
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>>87718229
In the comics, he is another Speed Force user, back from the WWII/Cold War days. He got shocked while testing experimental, super fast fighter jets.

His "gimmick" is basically that he sees the Speed Force as an all powerful deity and he its prophet. He treats other Speed Force users who don't follow his teachings as blasphemers and fools who need to be disposed of, as he thinks they waste its power and taxes his own access to the power.

He's basically the most powerful/learned user of the Speed Force ever, as he took to studying it and understanding it better than anyone. He has a bunch of unique "speed" based powers that are absurd. He created speed steal, can lend speed to others permanently, can instantly heal mortal wounds, can basically simulate telekinesis, and control the age of others at will from across the world as well as a couple other things I'm forgetting.

Basically, the only stupid wacky over powered Speed Force power he didn't create/know was making clothes out of Speed Force (a Wally West special).
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>>87718067
Danielle is prime waifu material
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>>87718371

Savitar sounds like a literal force user.
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>>87718371
Got it. Speed priest with plot-demanding powers.
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>>87718371
So do you think in the show the speed force went up to Savitar and said "Yo that Barry kid fucked the time space continuum again. We are going to need you to unfuck it."
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>>87718470
I don't know what they're doing in the show. He looks like a doofy robot.
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Why do people like MEGA?
They keep imposing limits on me.
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DAILY REMINDER THAT OG WALLY WEST IS STILL THE MOST OP SPEEDSTER NEXT TO HUNTER ZOLOMON
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>>87718700
lol Zolomon can't even time travel.

Eobard Thawne is still the most OP, atleast the pre-New 52 version.
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>>87718739
Zolomon would still murk Eobard in a fight. No one can out speed Zolomon while Eobard is slow as fuck compared to OG Wally and Barry at his top speed
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>>87718159
>>87718189
just think of him as a weak echo of the real Shade.

who would utterly anhilate Flash, BTW, but loses on purpose because he likes to play the game of the bad guy (but not the winner)
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>>87718899
yea only way to beat Zolomon is to steal so much speed that you are so fast your outside of time itself (which Wally did, but it wore off)
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>>87715782
WTF is this?
So I am like 3 episodes behind. Is it even worth catching up?
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>yfw Caitlin is redeemed and later calls herself Ice
>Fire is later introduced soon after
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>>87715782
>GIVE ME THE ALLSPARK
http://movie-sounds.org/sci-fi-movie-samples/sound-clips-from-transformers-2007/give-me-the-all-spark-and-you-may-live-to-be-my-pet
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>>87719018
Ice is a shit name. If she's redeemed I want her to be called Frost.
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>>87719018
>>87719210
You guys did get the memo that Killer Frost is going to be a hero in the comics now right?
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>>87717868
Well, Castle isn't going to be a conflict, shit got cancelled because Nathan Fillion ran roughshod over people backstage.
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>>87719279

I think you're being a little biased anon when there is two sides to the story, and almost everyone on set backed him and he is still on abc on another show..and she is doing lifetime movies.

Who knows what the real truth is.. they used to get along really well and somewhere along the line started hating eachother.
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>>87718098
>an appearance from Max Mercury wouldn't be unwelcome...

Agreed. Michael Rosenbaum for Max Mercury NOW.
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>>87718105
Christina is an underrated Evil Speedster.
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>>87715782

A evil speedster every season.... can they think of anything new....
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>>87719018
Beatriz was mentioned in the first season

And an Earth 2 version showed up as part of Zoom's army
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>>87718371
>Basically, the only stupid wacky over powered Speed Force power he didn't create/know was making clothes out of Speed Force (a Wally West special).

What about making clones out of speed force energy?
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>>87719407
>Beatriz was mentioned in the first season

We can only hope that she and Ralph got dekilled by Flashpoint.
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>>87719382
pretty faithful actually
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>>87717924
It is a huge red herring. This episode they even made sure that you knew that Draco was nowhere to be found while they were going to fight Alchemy. If Draco was Alchemy they would have tried to hide it better, like they did last season with zoom and fake Jay.
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>>87715764
Candidates for Alchemy:
>Malfoy (would be a huge letdown)
>Flashpoint Barry that existed in the timeline before E1 Barry messed with everything
>Eddie (because why not)
>One of the Alchemy guys from the comics
>Piper (haven't seen him in a while and it's a similar costume dot of)
>Dante (extremely remote, but possible)
>Someone we haven't seen yet
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Just want to say that I am loving the shit out of Earth 19 Wells. Dude is fucking hilarious.
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>>87719274
Livewire as a hero when?
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>>87716125
GIVE ME THAT CUBE!!!!!!!!!
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>>87716125

>snap hiss of a lightsaber
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>>87719274
>That fucking haircut

Stop God please.
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>>87719633
30th/31st Century.
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>>87719274
Wish they would have the Snow Frost as a hero and the Frost/Lincoln Frsosts as villains.
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I also hope that Julian isn't Alchemy, but it is kind of funny that the character's power comes from something called the "Philosopher's Stone."
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>>87719695
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>>87715812
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Lb-zp8RwhA
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>>87716125
I like it I have to say, pretty dece cg for tv
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>>87716125
Why could only barry see him?
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which one /cwg/?
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LOL at the retina shit that HR does just so they can keep Cavanaugh and not pay extra for the other guy.
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>>87719853
If it was ten years ago, I'd pick Kay. Today, I'd pick Danielle.
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>>87716125
Wew lad
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>>87719873
i just looker her up nowadays. oh god why?! (anyone who wants to do the same, ignore google images)
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>>87718739
>lol Zolomon can't even time travel.

Zolomon moved outside of time, broheim.
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>>87719839

His eyes are mirrors into the soul, bro.
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>>87719918
She chose to quit acting and become a zookeeper. If you're not an actor you don't need to stay attractive.
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>>87719926
Him not being able to time travel is literally his whole problem.
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Anyone else feel like Barry was an afterthought in today's episode?
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>>87719853
>Stephanie Kay Panabaker (born May 2, 1990) is a former American actress and current zoologist.

....whaaaaaaaat?
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>>87720005

I don't even know why they call this show the flash honestly, majority of the cast could disappear and the outcome would be the same. I mean why do you need 5 people standing around telling you in one of many different ways to run faster.
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FROSTED
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Reminder Linda from E2 is still running around naked and invisible.
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>>87720020
>team movies like Avengers
>always put too much focus on one or two of the characters
>solo character TV shows like Flash and Arrow
>always puts too little focus on the main character
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>>87720067

I mean in all honesty this show should be more structured like early dexter as him being the sole pov.

I mean he is a forensic tech so he would still interact with a lot of these characters but there is no reason to split the narrative so much.

I mean seriously its just a terrible idea turning every show into an ensemble when the ensemble isn't interesting.
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>>87720020

Because you get more stories and content when Barry has a strong supporting cast? It also, you know, helps them keep the budget from exploding.
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>>87720310

Both of those statements don't make any sense. You would still get same number of stories and variety is only limited to who you would want barry to interact with and would have more time to define your antagonists. The second part makes even less sense than the first one considering a large supporting cast takes away from the show when you could put money from additional characters into sets, vfx/sfx, better guest stars.

The pay channels have already proven that shows with less characters can work really well.
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>>87720339
The reason for ensemble cast is because Barry isn't at Future Barry's level, the one who doesn't need others help so much and has his speed force intellect who created the Gideon AI. Even Thawne remarked on how this Barry was stupider than the one in the future.
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>>87720365

I never said he couldn't have a supporting cast, I said there is no reason now for him to have one. Between his forensic knowledge, meta-abilities and experience, shit time-travel itself, there is very little he couldn't do.

many other characters have done far more with less. You're just making excuses for the Cw shows being tied to a formula. It is bad writing at this point.
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>>87718140
>>87718100
Currently have a crack theory that Nu52Eobard is actually Zolomon with facial surgery possessed by Pre-Flashpoint Thawne (the impaled one) from within the speedforce.

Seeing how Nu52 Thawne has Zolomon's powerset, and Barry was recently possessed by Eobard when the two Wallys shook hands last month.
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Haven't been keeping up with these threads in a few weeks. Has anybody called H.R. being Abra Kadabra?
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Knew they'd fuck up sooner or later.

This shit is a complete joke.
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>>87720388
Yeah but you want it more concentrated on Barry and I just told you. From a plot perspective Barry is not Future Barry yet so he has people help him. Yes Barry could do everything himself on the show if the show decided to advance him but you'd see less of 'the team.' You can complain all you want but it may never change since it is on the CW.
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>>87720496

I never said it would change, I was merely pointing it out.

The show would be far stronger with a more limited cast and turning some characters into reoccuring to dial down on pointless filler/drama and making interactions more valuable over-all.
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>>87719992
What a waste of good genes
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>>87720523
Well and like I said you may never get what you want because its on the CW. Example: How many seasons was there of Smallville? 10. How many of those seasons was there a limited cast or dial down the pointless filler drama. None.
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>>87720523

The show would just turn into a monster of a week show which people seem to hate, given with the level of bitching whenever they just do one and done episode.
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>>87720578
No they like the monster-of-the-week shows because it limits the pointless filler drama >>87720523 is talking about.
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>>87717992
Watch Vibe be the evil one in that scenario.
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>>87719352
if he shows up as anything they're got to be a throwaway line where he's confused that wally is black.

just like someone better call ray clark in the crossover
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>>87719428

>Time remnants are basically Bart's speed scouts
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>>87720597

if you look at other shows with procedural and genre elements, motw episodes tend to stand out better because when you do hit something good, it is self-contained within the episode which is why networks often want stand alone episodes and actually growing trend of serialization has grown over the years. I think to detriment of some shows and while some shows handle their ensemble casts better than others..

It is often glaring when you see the same formula repeated by the same network and makes the contrast just that much easier to notice.

That isn't to say some actors/characters don't stand out but on whole younger actors cannot support the amount of time they're given on these shows.

Joe served a purpose/narrative reason for season 1 but truly he should have been the one killed off in the first season not eddie.

I would have pushed flashpoint at end of season one, going into season 2 and shown a drastically different world but I also would have deviated from what they did on show so far with it and comics. I would have showcased the weirdness in standalone episodes and reduced the main characters to reoccuring in season 2, and then went back to something more familiar in season 3, and avoided reuse of season 1 narrative.

I can think of much better shows that avoided a lot of these pitfalls that this show is running into and they had a smaller budget over-all.

Unimaginative people are driving these shows.
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I never thought they'd bring savitar back. and I never thought it would be on tv. and never thought he'd be a transformer.
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>>87720697
I wonder if they bring Bart into the show. But you know if they do, he'd be part black. Though they'd likely cast someone who's half black, but looks fairly white like Cameron Boyce.
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>>87720721
You're preaching to the choir Anon. I mean I think reason why Supergirl failed on CBS was because Berlaniti's studio was behind it, but this is also the reason why there was such an easy transition to the CW.
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This newest episode was probably the best written in the show yet. Not like it was amazing or anything, because it definitely wasn't, but there were absolutely no moments of cringey dialogue or retarded lines of logic. I've never seen an episode where I didn't have to roll my eyes 3 or 4 times throughout. Barry acted like a hero, Cisco acted like an understanding friend to Caitlin, Caitlin apologized for her shit and opened up, Iris admitted she was useless, Wally had believable reason to act like a shit... I don't even remember all the times in the episode that I assumed they'd do something stupid, and actually ended up avoiding it.

This is what the show should be all the time. Looks like the only new name on the list of writing credits for the episode is Emily Silver, so I hope we get more from her in the future.
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Dr. Alchemy is the rock and the rock is mind controlling Julian into thinking hes with his girlfriend, who has been dead for years. Savitar found the rock and is slave to it.
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>>87720890
>I mean I think reason why Supergirl failed on CBS was because Berlaniti's studio was behind it

It "failed" because it was on CBS, where the majority of viewers are geriatric old people.
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>>87721166
Thats the simple answer, but it's really Berlanti's concept that was shit.
It was pulling much larger numbers than it does now, just not enough for CBS to keep it.
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>>87721338
>It was pulling much larger numbers than it does now

Yeah, because it's on CW now, where it's a hit.
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>>87716069

>laughing at wizards

Its like you want to be turned into a frog
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anyone hopping this happens in the crossover episodes?
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testtoastkillerfrost
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>>87721338
>It was pulling much larger numbers than it does now, just not enough for CBS to keep it.
It was pulling larger numbers because CBS reaches more households than the CW.

Supergirl didn't really fail, it underperformed but it still had the ratings to be renewed easily. The tax credits that were promised for filming in California didn't come through and that jacked the price way up. They had to cut costs and CBS didn't want to pay that much for it, especially for a budget Vancouver special.
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>>87721864

A show that they ended up having to spend a lot more on for what they got when a comedy like BBT which is more about paying the actors than the show itself makes them far more for much less.

While it is never fair to contrast across genres, CBS has much higher expectations that other networks.

They get a lot more out of much less.
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I don't wanna come back to STAR LABS, you have to protect people there, and if you fail, you'll be thrown out. To rot in a looped pipe, listening to songs from old american movies. And people'll get back to their lives like nothing ever happened.
Meta-genes are handed over to little kids. In every meal. Then they have a boner like Eiffel Tower. But after the particle accelerator explosion, they also started butt-fucking each other. Turning the lights off and running all-over Central City. Screwing around. Some put that Flash costume on and did a protect@serve routine.
If you're unlucky to stuck in the basement of STAR LABS — you're done, pal. You'll be given a nickname by Cisco in the morning, little bit of fisting before lunch. Rucola for lunch. After that — back to your cell. No dinner. Fucking fags. I'm hungry, you morons! FUCK.
When Vandal Savage went mad, the team of heroes found him in some sort of hangar. It was a trap, the magic staff was also brought to the party. But heroes knew nothing about that, kept fighting. Oliver dropped his bow. He was neutralized and butt-fucked by some goons. Vandal just laughed at it. He got a seizure moment after. Knelt down, eyes wide open, and then there was a flash from that magic staff. Boom. All dead. Everyone vanished, and timeline had to be reversed to prevent that.
Cisco cried. Don't give a fuck. The hand vibes like hell, what to do? You know the answer. If Barry is tied up to the nightstand —he's guilty. He has to be kicked. Or fucked, it depends on the person.
Today Barry was promised with an easy task. They fucking lied. SHIT. Barry showed his autism. Again. The Rogues could use their STAR LABS’ guns to shoot Barry! But we decided not to give the Rogues firearms, hooked them up with some felt boots. Those idiots almost managed to kill Flash with that shit. Turned up, they put broken bricks in those felt boots. Don't feel sorry for Flash, he regenerates fast.
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Someone is making costume out of the yellow boots, someone is ironing Grodd. Beware, here’s shit on the floor. And Felicity-poster. Supergirl-poster on the opposite wall. Signed. It's a mystery by whom. The previous timeline is all fucked up, but nobody admitted who did this. Tough to remember. Stinks like shit. Half-decayed corpse of Turtle. So that's how our science department looks like.
Why do we protect? Otherewise they'll attack. Those metahumans. Gonna walk around Central city, rob banks, citizens, doing mayhem. Damn faggots. After annihilation of half a city by superforce, what can you say to that kind of a person? He can't understand you. He can't be taken to court, he's not your everyday mobster. Just lock him up in the STAR LABS for good. Faggots. All niggers are faggots. And metahumans are fags too.
If you can't run, you'll be given two serums. Of Velocity. One is poisoned. The other has bromine. You have to guess: either you'll die, either you'll be speedfocing your pants out. But most of the guys are speedforcing. How can't you do that when you're buttfucked? No one?.
If you go away from STAR LABS when fed up Harrison's bullshit, you can visit Earth-2 without an invitation. It's deadly important not to be spotted by Zoom. If he spots you, you'll be tied up and taken to the garage by Killer Frost. Gag in your mouth. Cold floor, freezing your balls off. They start to lecture you about speed, etc. Zoom hits you hard. Hands only, with speedforce. Luckily, no buttfucking. Don't know what's better though.
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If somebody has a daughter on Earth-2, he'll get his balls cut. STAR LABS' tradition. Like freshmen initiation, but with balls cut off. By scissors. Rusty scissors. You can add it to your senior album though. But daughter will run away nevertheless.
Who's over Mach 3 — is Flash. Is privileged to wear a costume. He always has some sort of entourage. He eats first. Oliver bows at Barry's feet and calls him «Fastest man alive». Flash always eats on the move. Like a wolf. Or a dog, he knows better. After 5 minutes of every episode, Flash get his ass kicked and butt-fucked. Why? Because he's an autist and a passive fag.
That's true that you shouldn't give a fuck. Or not, I don't freaking know. «Watch the CW every day, be a madman all the way». Sounds like bullshit? That is truly bullshit. Who can withstand over 5 seasons of different the CW shows becomes fully retarded. With an ass like Donald Duck's. But alive, unlike Bruce Wayne's parents. Or dead. Who knows.
They say inmate's food budget is 25 dollars a day. Bullshit. A half of that, really. Half - for Cisco. Half — for Caitlin. Half — for Harrison. And there's only 17 cents for an inmate. And they eat. Those faggots eat cents. Spicing it up with speedforce, little bit of butter, just to have a poo easily, and eat. For those who fail - there's no dinner. So it goes.
«Run, Barry, Run». Like Thawne said. Then he wiped out. Or was wiped out. Who knows.
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>>87715782
Looks awesome.
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>>87721903
>>87721911
>>87721921
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Iris punching out Wally was fucking hilarious.
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>>87717791
>Hunter Zolomon may have been ruined in the show but if they ever bring him back for the comics he should wear the black suit.
Fuck you
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>>87721630
Only if it's ginger wally ;(
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>>87722188
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>>87715764
I'm starting to like HR.
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>>87723576
The best part about the Wellses is the "Oh yeah we already have this villain insert anecdote here."
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Are we ever going to have a season without a speedster being the main villain? I wish they could just make an entire season about The Rogues, if they hadn't already used all them in throwaway episodes.
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>>87719854
Thats not why. It's so we can see based Cavanagh obviously, and not some other dink. Would you really want to lose his acting?
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>>87718910
>>87718159
I thought he was wasted too, but I also don't know a whole lot about his character.He's different from the changing man, right?
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>>87716069
36 here.
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>>87717949
Damn.

Savitar's a big guy.
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>>87719689
I wanted the girl one.
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>>87715764
Man, I thought season 3 was going to be a disaster, but jesus.

Glad I dodged that bullet
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>>87719597
...how about Flashpoint Wells? Have we seen Flashpoint Wells? I mean, if Barry stopped Thawne from killing his mom, that means he never got to steal Wells' face/identity, right?
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Are they ever going to use Shade again or will he always just be that random villain they used for 5 minutes as filler?
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>>87723109
>black Wally
>pudgy white Artemis

lol
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>>87717791
we better get those ninjas.
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>>87725241
According to Iris, he funded S.T.A.R. Labs, but then sold the building to billionaire Cisco.
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>>87725315
Whats the problem?
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>>87725401
it's a reverse race swap. Well, assuming we're doing YJ GookArtemis.
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>>87725388
>billionaire Cisco
>evil Cisco

why is he only interesting in alternate timelines and different worlds?
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>>87715802
Isn't episode 9 with the earth 3 flash and the tricksters?
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>>87725766
Apparently that's coming next year.
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>>87716125
He looks like a Collector to me
>tfw ASSUMING DIRECT CONTROL
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>>87720023
Thanks, Darkseid
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>>87726013
ping.ping.ping
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>>87717924
I think they're trying to ruse us
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>yfw Julian GF is Patty
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>>87726275
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>>87715782
How did this show become so shit so fast?
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>>87719839
Because he's fast
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>>87721630
Thanks for reminding me the CW fuck up Wally and Artemis.
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>>87720868

They've been saying since season 1 they would eventually like to have Bart.

>Cameron Boyce

Yeah wtf he doesn't look half black at all. I'm a quarter and I look blacker than him.

Or Wentworth Miller. He has a black parent too. lmao Even Captain Cold has been blacked.
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>>87721166
>>87720890

It got decent numbers. It was just expensive as fuck to make.
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>>87718429
No doubt.
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>>87719606
He is so mwa magnifico
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>>87726800
Stop repeating whats already been said just to bump the thread moron.
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>>87721864
>They had to cut costs and CBS didn't want to pay that much for it

It wasn't good enough to stay on CBS to bring in the ratings to justify it staying on the network. If it had gotten much better ratings CBS would have kept it.
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>>87719352

Make him Max Mercury. Make Vanderbeek Alan Scott.
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Can anyone photoshop Eddie face to Savitar?
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Wally got a glass chin, he got KTFO by his sister in one punch,.
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>My partner, Randolph, is better with tech than I am.
Randolph Wintergreen?
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>>87729774
Randolph Morgan.
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>>87720023
d-darkseid?
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>>87726275
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>>87719597
or none of those things. It's probably Albert Desomond
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So it was definitely Savitar that killed Clariss.
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>>87732207
Called it.
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>>87717992
Too much a bait and switch. Probably Earth 2 Vibe, somehow still alive.
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I have the episode sat on my pc and i have no desire to watch it. Please tell me it was a good episode
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>>87732612
It was a good episode.
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i miss this classy bastard
i think a starman tv series would be okay for cw
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>>87719853
Why is she caressing the other girl's thigh?
I also don't know who is who
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>>87726986
So is it me
Or does she look a lot like the scientist girl on Agents of SHIELD?
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>>87732612
you know it was actually pretty enjoyable.
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>>87720911
this is anon is kinda right
everything was pretty much on point
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>>87720023
HYPERCRISIS
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>>87716069
33 and 34 by the end of the month.
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>>87717924
No, Cisco is Alchemy in revenge for his brother dying. Alchemy's power to give people their alternate reality powers is a subset of Cisco's ability to see and transverse alternate realities.

He also gave Caitlyn her powers back.
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>>87735878
Alchemy is clearly a possession controlling whoever wields the Philosophers Stone.
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