Nonsense

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they've been around for a while now

pic related, best example

>>87688726
i dont get it

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>>87688675
I think it's, in theory, possible to have a down to earth show that's swarming with magic robots, but I believe the "off the wall" bit implies a degree of zaniness that contradicts "down to earth."

>>87688675
realistic simply means that the characters resemble real people more so than plot devices or antagonist beaters
down to earth means that the characters resemble people who would watch that show
so for shows like gossip girl is down to earth because the target audience is girls of that specific age who act in that specific way
big bang theory isn't down to earth because 1. it's not realistic and 2. the people who watch that show aren't the kind of people it portrays

So a show about magic robots can be realistic if the character interactions are decent and their motivations aren't weird
it could even be down to earth depending on how they booked it

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>>87688675
Not at all. If that was true over half of entertainment media wouldn't exist. We wouldn't have The Walking Dead, Game of Thrones etc

>>87688675
No. the characters can still be realistic and down to earth even if the setting isn't.

>>87688675
It's called willing suspention of disbelief

>>87688788
>1. it's not realistic
If that's true than why does everyone say I'm just like Sheldon?

>>87688759
There's someone on /co/ who has a fetish for women destroying the environment

Not that I expect you to get that either. I sure as hell don't

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>>87688675
No

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>>87688675

>>87688796
That tweet really pissed me off

Shows that they don't respect the setting at all and proves it's nothing more than a tool to make money to them

>>87688788
>down to earth means that the characters resemble people who would watch that show
>it could even be down to earth depending on how they booked it

How do you book a show to reach the magic robot demographic?

>>87688675
any good anime ever made?

>>87688824
because you're autistic as hell and you crave cock, duh

>>87688675
>create setting with magic robots
>think "what if magic robots actually existed in real life, what would things be like"
>write story that has realisticly behaving characters and consistent internal logic, while still having components that don't exist in real life

>>87688675
FLCL

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>>87688675
As if this didn't exist

>>87688876
Focusing more on what your characters are rather than who they are is exactly the opposite of what you want to do to have a "down to earth" show.

>>87688876
Well if the actors were portraying well off millennials attending a prestigious academy for the construction, design, and research of magical robots (basically similar to SyFy's, the magicians) having a bunch of side plots about the intricacies of open relationships and the struggles that many young adults face in regards to how to figure out what your life will be like from that point on
But if the actors more resembled those of BBC's Jonathan Strange & Mr Norrell, the stories could be more about the struggles of providing for your family and balancing social and work lives
It's not "easy", but it's far from impossible

>>87688796
I think video game developers are more guilty of this that anyone else- but it seems like some writers resent the idea of in-universe logic

i think the best example of "realistic, down to earth and off the wall, swarming with magic robots" is in movies like District 9.

it's not about the elements that are in the story but the presentation, we see a wider scope of social repercussions and the premise that life has to go on despite or in spite of the fantastic, crazy things going on.

it doesn't really trivialize them.

>>87688925
>anime
>good
Nice try, but we all know japanese writers are the most convoluted hacks on the planet.

>>87688739
What's realistic and down to earth in it?
All I can think of is that it references lots of things people know in real life like shows or bands or actors.

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>>87688675

FCLC?

>>87688978
Or they just don't keep track of what's "in universe" or not.

>>87688978
>Magic exists so my world doesn't need to be internally consistent
The mark of a lazy writer

Real people with real stories in a fantastical setting

>>87688675
I think its mainly the "completely off the wall" part that contradicts "realistic, down to earth".

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>>87689033
The emotional development the characters go through (especially Dean). Hank being a romantic. Dr Ms The Monarch and The Monarchs relationship. The list kinda goes on. Point is, these are realistic relatable problems told in fantastic and insane ways.

>>87688796
Would Walking Dead and Game of Thrones really be considered "down to earth" though?

>>87689012
>we all know japanese writers are the most convoluted hacks on the planet.

You must really loved Season 2 of Gravity Falls or post movie spongebob, amirite nigga?

>>87689125
Characters react logically to situations, even if those situations are fantastical. Actions have reasonable consequences. There's a clear cause and effect between things. The fantastical elements in both series are consistent. Things don't just happen for the sake of happening, they happen because it makes sense for them to happen within the context of the setting.

I'd say all that means they count as down to earth.

>>87689216
I dunno. Walking Dead's characters felt more b-movie-ish to me.

>>87689150
Season 2 of Gravity Falls was actually good in its first half, and hit and miss in the second. I wouldn't put in the same league as zombie spongebob.

>>87689267
Kinda. Though I always remember that scene in s2 of the show where Shane is trapped in a bus surrounded by zombies and slowly kills them all off by spearing them through a window. Those sort of tactics aren't normally seen in b movies.

>>87689095

What if the world has "magic" and actual genuine magic, where the first has rules and limitations like science, and real magic is this super rare "no fuck you" power that can do anything because the whole point of magic is the power to make the miraculous reality?

>>87689330
but the girl with the katana folded over a thousand times of glorious nippon steel though.

>>87689361
It has the inherent problem with any reality warper, where logically nothing in-story should be able to defeat them because they can just change the outcome.

>>87689361
You can have magic like that, just don't suddenly pull it out of no where to solve plot problems. Deus ex machina and all that.

>>87689392
>>87689408

I always invoke the Tom Bombadil clause for god power characters, they're too silly and uninterested in the larger conflict to be part of it.

>>87689216
A lot of situations in GoT actually feel like they happen specifically to setup someone getting killed, though.

>>87689463
In GoT characters typically die when they "stop playing the game" Ned Stark went out of his way to go against the Lannisters and told them he was going to tell everyone their secret TO THEIR FACE. It shouldn't have shocked anyone they'd have him killed (though I was). Same kind of thing with the Red Wedding and pretty much through the show. Jon can be the only exception and we all know how that panned out for him.

To elaborate on my post here >>87689426, I think that it's just logical that if a character has the power to rewrite reality to whatever they wish, and there's still big problems in the world, then that character isn't interested in solving things. I mean you could literally just ask that character "hey could you make it so the evil empire never existed?" and he could do it if he gave a shit.

>>87689524
Everyone should have known Ned would die just from the fact he was played by Sean Bean

It perfectly describes Regular Show to me.

>>87689699
Eh, Regular Show's characters are too sitcom-like, IMO. Then again, I never watched past season 2.

>>87688675
I always thought this was a meta-joke. The Simpsons at that time was all about realistic and down to Earth plotlines that featured utterly ludicrous jokes and scenarios.

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>>87689069
FLCL is non stop retardation though. With 2deep4u symbolism about penis thrown in. Not down to earth at all.

>>87689361
A being with such power doesn't have place of relevance in any plot other than the subject of following, religious or otherwise, IMO; no 4 dimentional time-travelling hypersphere is going to come down to flatland just to tell the inhabitants how inferior and worthless they are to him and has no interest in fixing or crating any problems whatssoever inside that plane of existence.

>>87689033
They depict a really bizarre setting in a realistic fashion. They show you the more mundane and bureaucratic sides of the lives of supervillains. It's also a pretty common gag to treat the more wacky things as superfluous and inefficient. For example the moment when Billy shoots his hookshot hand only to point out that it can't support someone climbing it since it's still attached to him, and it has issues reeling back in.

>>87689123
Idk I wouldn't find me using my friends to make up random reporter or mugger scenarios to impress a chick relatable.

Nor a relationship with someone as singleminded and insane as Monarch

Then again I have no love life so I shouldn't be finding most TV versions of relationships relatable.

>>87689011
>that montage at the beginning of the prawns conflicting with the locals
definitely one of the more unique takes on alien contact

>>87690136
That part with Hank was more ridiculous but relatable rather than based in reality. The relationship dynamic with the monarch and DrMtM is very honest and realistic. Man is defined by his career (ie fuck with rusty) wife is
driven and highly successful.


also, hang in there buddy.

>>87688675
Depends what you mean by "realistic".

>>87689388
What's more, she took it off a neighbour kid. Think about that. What suburbanite owns an honest to God katana and not some shitty dollar store knock-off

>>87690697
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb3UobSZl34&t=116s

Down to earth doesn't just mean the characters are portrayed realistically. It also refers to the tone and rules of the setting so they can feel like they belong there, to allow the audience to take it seriously. Otherwise it'll feel like a setup for a joke, or a b-movie/soap opera that lacks self-awareness.

>>87688863
That tweet was in response to the kid in the fridge, right? But I don't think ghouls need to drink or eat. Or at least nobody complained about them not doing that in Fallout 3 or New Vegas. How many ghouls do you find locked in a room by themselves? They've been there centuries, but didn't have access to food or water. Feral or not, a kid being locked in a fridge isn't much different.

Now, how he didn't go batshit insane is another issue altogether. Pretty sure he should have been blind after 200 years in the dark as well.

>>87688675
No. Some aspects of a show can be realistic, others crazy. Old Simpsons used to be like that: they were a normal family with a believable dynamic that had crazy shit happen to them. Doremi is a good example: magical girls parallel to very serious and realistic problems that children and families face.

>>87690814
Simpsons family were only truly realistically written in the first couple seasons. They became more caricature-ish by season 4.

>>87690136
It's believable in context. The boys are transitioning from Hanna-Barbera shit to the real life albeit slowly. A fake mugger scenario is what seems normal to Dean. Now what's Billy's and Pete's excuse for going along with it instead of telling him that that's not how you impress normal girls is unknown.

>>87690136
You've never had your buddies prop you up as a more impressive person than you really are to help you get in good with an attractive woman?

Personally I think the problem with "Realistic down to earth" is that it's mutated to mean cynical and kind of shitty people.

>>87690948
Thats because most people in the real world today are cynical and kind of shitty.

>>87688796
See, I'm not implicitly against outlandish things happening in Fallout, because Fallout has always had some pretty ludicrous things in it. Like a fucking mini-nuke Launcher, or shit like Mirelurks and even Super Mutants.
What's important is the tone that the stuff is presented in. I haven't played FO4, so I can't really comment on the tone of the game. I do think a child surviving in a fridge for however fucking long is a bit out there, but if it's presented in the right fashion I think it's workable.

>>87689012
>Hussie is japanese
got it

>>87691150
I like it because of how hilariously ludicrous it was, but like >>87690802 somewhat explained, it was presented pretty poorly. Yes, it's possible that the kid could survive like that, but I don't think he's just going to politely request your assistance after spending 200 years locked in a fridge. And with all the people roaming the wastes, you'd think someone else would have found him already in that long period of time.

>>87691836
It's also funny because in Fallout: NV if you have Wild Wasteland on you can find Indiana Jones corpse in a fridge.

>>87690988
That doesn't necessarily mean that it isn't any less "realistic" then a person that is neither of those things though.

>>87690905

Buddy, you're on 4chan. The majority of people here have never "gotten in good" with any woman, attractive or otherwise.

>>87692014
People who are mostly neither do exist, but even they will have their moments. If you have characters that are 100% neither, its no longer realistic, and more appears idealistic.

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>>87688675
Realistic is not reality. Pic fucking related.

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Did you rike it?

>>87688675
Anime usually nails it more than cartoons.

Fooly Cooly for example.

>>87688675

Yes, stop being a contrarian.

>>87695300
0080 is the only valid example from all of Gundam. The Newtype stuff turned far too many characters into fucking wacky messiah super beings in almost every other UC entry.

>>87689216
>>87688796
This.

Nigga, fuck Bethesda.

>>87688675
My dream show described, I was actually thinking about posting the exact same image.

I would watch it religiously.

>>87689769
the characters are pretty down to earth

>>87688675
No, not at all.

I think what people want is people reacting and acting in a realistic, down to earth way, in fantastic settings. Being human, making mistakes, getting afraid, struggling with interpersonal relationships and the weight of duty and their choices etc. while also managing in this crazy world.

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>>87688675
Isn't that just Regular Show?

Assuming you count Father Time, The Phone Guardians, Doomageddon, and the cast of "The Last Laserdisc" as magic robots, among others.

>>87688739
Holy shit you are legitimately delusional or you're one of thos faggots who th8nks "good qualities a show can have? Of courelse my favorite show has them, its literally perfect after all"

SLICE OF LIFE is the most overrated boring genre of entertainment ever.

inb4 muh seinfeld

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>>87695736
>0800 War In the Pocket is the only good Gundam because Newtypes are dumb.

Mon Homme.
Although I really like MS 08th for it's gritty aesthetic. The EZ-8 Custom Ground Type remains one of my favorite MSs, because V-fins are for idiots.

Don't click on this pic; it'll make you real sad.

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>>87702167
Zeta and Victory are pretty fun to watch.
0079 is overrated and ZZ is the worst shit.

Never got the love for that.

>>87695736

The only character who fits that mold in the original show gets killed by a beam saber taking a blow for her captain.

>>87688863

Pete Hines isn't even a dev though.

>>87688828
i wish people would stop trying to summon deforestanon in every thread

>>87688675
Of course there's no middle ground. You're either kooky quirky ironic and self aware ultra comedy or you're super dark and gritty and realistic.

>>87688675
The crazy fantasy stuff is more fun if it is placed in an otherwise believable world. So not really.

>>87691150
>Like a fucking mini-nuke Launcher
Those are real things, you know

The only discrepancy is that the ones in Fallout can't level a city

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>>87699877
Regular Show is hardly what I'd call down to earth.

>>87699974
me too, th8nks.

>>87691836
My guess is that he spent the better part of the 200 years in a coma from a shockwave or something. To his knowledge he might have only been in there for a few days when you find him, which is why he is so suprised to see the world destroyed.

>>87688675
Battle Star Galactica (2004) literally had magic robots.

>>87688675
That show was already made, it's called Futurama.
>>87688739
Nothing like what OP said.
>>87688925
Hamtaro.
>>87689012
Tiny Toons & Animaniacs will like to have a word with you.
>>87689069
Nope.
>>87689699
No, Regular Show is nothing like what OP said.
>>87690814
Hamtaro did the same thing, until season 5 with the magical candy land.

The movies and OVAs 2, 3 and 4 were also "out there" as well.
>>87695560
No, thats Hamtaro's human cast.
>>87699198
No they were not, they were just as crazy as 40s Daffy Duck.
>>87699877
No.

>>87688828
i thought the joke is that woman don't do these kinds of work
but liberal propaganda is trying to convince us otherwise

>>87690802
Ghouls do need to eat and drink, yes. There was a ghoul in NV that was trapped in a basement and explains where he got his food and water from.

Plus, I mean, stealing the water chip from the ghouls was a pretty significant part of Fallout 1.

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Realism in fiction means the physical properties, characters, and actions are consistent with what is established. For example, Daffy Duck getting shot in the face by a shotgun and getting only mildly hurt in Looney Tunes is realistic since physical harm in the show is established to be painful and funny but nonlethal.

Down-to-Earth means that work you're producing is mainly for art's sake and you're embracing the medium and genre you're using with no particular agenda.Comedy for comedy's sake, action for action's sake, adventure for adventure's sake.

So basically make sure you have internal logic, character consistency, and manageable tones.