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what happened to adult cartoons?

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what happened to adult cartoons?
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Cartoons are for children, not adults anon.
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Family Guy, Futurama,South Park etc are your choices. If you want adult cartoons you're gonna have to watch anime.

Sorry.
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>>87663930
Normies need to be accommodated so most cartoons have been to audience they would feel comfortable with
>>87663939
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>>87663939
You forgot about comic books.
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>>87663930

No one saw Final Fantasy and nobody liked Beowulf.
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They're still being made.

They're called Deadpool, Star Trek Beyond, Independence Day: Resurgence, and so on.

Each of these movies had as much animation as live-action, if not more.

Pic unrelated.
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>>87663930
It got replaced with later season Family Guy tier humor.

Then again what kind of adult cartoon are you looking for? Gratuitous violence/naked girls or adult subject matters in animated form?

There was this, from Pixar. Not sure if you would like it or not.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i515tcsRSjg
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>>87663969
Nah, kids these days aren't interested in comics and geek culture oriented kiddie shit comics (super heroes/fantasy/sci-fi etc) are dying and moving on to film/tv. alternative/underground/comix, or whatever you wanna call them, which are aimed towards adults are in a golden age at the moment.
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>>87663930
were replaced by cartoons with muh feelings, crying and fat quirky porotaginists
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>adult cartoons have to be sexual for me to enjoy, not explore more mature themes or ideas, all I want is big bosoomed women in my 'toon
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>>87663939
>never heard of Fritz The Cat Coonskin or Heavy Traffic

>Doesn't know about "Tijuana Comics"
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>>87663930
They were dumbed down to appeal to normies so that they could survive. Trying to make an adult cartoon that takes itself seriously like a live action show would be financial suicide.
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>>87663930

Anime offers a lot more, and it's more open about sexuality. Which makes it especially weird, I have to say, when there's all those sexualization threads about cartoons. Not comic books, but cartoons like Stephen Universe or whatever.

That just strikes me as insanely, unspeakable creepy because those are really aimed at kids. At least in anime, you get the distinct impression that the girls are down to fuck.
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>>87664053
There's literally only one cartoon that has what you described, and that is Steven Universe, even then it still hasn't changed the industry much and its following is still limited.
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>>87664018
Except those are all live action smart ass. And don't pretend they would have even a fraction of the success if they were all animated.
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>>87664059
Tijuana comics are not cartoons though and they are basically just porn parodies of real newspaper comic strips. They could be regarded as proto-comix though since a lot of the underground cartoonists in the 60's and 70's got inspired by them.
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>>87664063

>not down to fuck

Are we watching the same show?
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>>87664075
They are already animated, you fucknut.
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>>87664057
> not wanting more Frazetta men and women in cartoons
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Fucking love this film, pity there are not more like it.

Closest we will ever get to animated conan like films.
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>>87664090

I don't know, what are you watching?
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>>87664071
woah woah! I din't mention names, if you want to put your favorite cartoon in that category it's not my problem
>mfw some nigga get's mad around me
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>>87664091
Technically speaking we are all "animated" but that's not what were referring to now is it? You're just bending the definition to make yourself look like less of an ass after making such a ridiculous statement.
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>>87664131

The Brak Show
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>>87664110
I hope Rodriguez doesn't fuck up the remake.
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>>87664057

>not wanting both

Fire and Ice is a bad example tho
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>>87663930
The theatrical market was way too niche to get good returns during a time when animation in the west wasn't doing to hot. At the same time the tv market was ever growing, but it had lost the "family appeal" of the Flintstones and went for the "kids appeal". Then the Simpsons happened and reawakened the market for "adult" cartoons. Afterwards you had South Park, Duckman, MTV and the birth of [AS] and Fox' non-Simpsons stuff. We've just sort of been sitting here until Sausage Party became the first R rated animated theatrical in 20+ years to see success.
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>>87664146
It's not even my favorite cartoon, all I did was point out that the only cartoon you properly described was Steven Universe and not the rest of the industry like you implied.
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>>87663930
They didn't make money.
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>>87664063
/co/ animation generally doesn't involve realistically or semi-realistically drawn human characters, isn't deliberately or openly sexual, and is generally intended for children (with the mindset that children should not be exposed to sexuality), so shit gets really weird really fast when /co/ and sexuality collide.

Anime sexuality is mostly not different from real life.
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>>87663930
Can't think of anything that isn't comedy (except Bakshi's stuff but that's not very relevant today).
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>>87663930
>Pocahontas in a thong

That's what I initially thought and what I'm going to continue thinking.

>>87663939
Sure they are.
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>>87663954
What the fuck? The target audience for anime is literally children.
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>>87664205
no need to get so angry my man, I know your love for lesbian cartoon is unique but I really wasn't trying to disrespect the thing you like, I was talking about bee and puppycat but I guess stiven univers fans are a little jumpy and grumpy all the time, sorry for triggering without any warning
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>>87663930
there are
ITS CALLED HENTAI
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>>87663930
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>>87664283
The target audience for some anime is literally children. Most anime produced today airs at night and isn't meant for children. Even historically speaking a lot of anime hasn't been for children, or at least not in the sense that children's animation is understood in America.
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>>87664057

>WAAAAAAAAAH! Some guy on FourChinz wants boobage in his entertainment!

Hey Dobson, finally done mourning over POTUS elections? :^)
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>>87663930
They turned into kids cartoons with an adult rating.
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>>87663930
Define "adult"
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I swear I've read this exact thread before.
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>>87664197
Same, but considering how most remakes go I am not getting my hopes up
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>>87664271
>Bakshi's not relevant today
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>>87664342
it's appears like twice per week
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>>87663978
I liked Beowulf, but that was because I knew going in that it wasn't a true adaptation, but a commentary on it. I don't think anyone but Gaiman actually picked up on it, though.
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>>87663930
Same thing that happens to every art form

Lefties got triggered it and made it go exstinct with the help of intimidating and censorship
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>>87663930
There are plenty of cartoons with profanity. That's usually their whole joke, "A cartoon character said damn, that's so whacky!"
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>>87664025
Not OP, but thanks all the same. That was pretty good.
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>>87664283

The largest consumers of anime are adults. Adult otaku (18+) watch the most and spend the most which is why all the studios pander to them. They buy the most waifu merchandise and they're the ones who stay up at night to watch the adult rated shows the general public doesn't care about.
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In the West they're all garbage. Any attempt at mature themes is overshadowed by ADHD humor and shitty character design.
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>>87664356
He is tangentially relevant at best. A bunch of the 90's big names got their starts working under him, but now their students/proteges/underlings are now the showrunners.
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>>87664378
>Soccer moms and Suburban Dads got triggered by it and made it go extinct with the help of intimidating, censorship and what about muh children.

Fixed.
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>>87664408
The studios don't "pander" to them any more than fantasy writers pander to fantasy fans and RPG developers pander to RPG fans.

Late night anime isn't watched by a monolithic group of "otaku" who all like the same things and buy the same things, and there is no such thing as "waifu merchandise."

http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/08/23/sweetness-and-lightning-makes-a-good-start-for-animenome-slot
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>>87663930
They did not take off in the west. Its the only media from the US is not leading in
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>>87664271
Was it always simplistic shit design?
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>>87664205
pretty much all frederator cartoons are like that
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>>87663930
People realized how stupid they were and stopped making them.
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>>87664445
>The studios don't "pander" to them any more than fantasy writers pander to fantasy fans and RPG developers pander to RPG fans.

That's wrong. There's clear favoritism towards that niche of anime fans.

>Late night anime isn't watched by a monolithic group of "otaku" who all like the same things and buy the same things

Do you really believe anyone besides the most dedicated people are staying up late at night to watch anime? Normal people don't even do that in the west. Everyone staying up late at night to watch Toonami are the kind of people to post on 4chan and Reddit.

>and there is no such thing as "waifu merchandise."

http://www.nekomagic.com/?tag=beach-queens
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/1016/0/1
http://www.amiami.com/top/page/c/bishoujo.html
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>>87664378
Suuuure, which is why "lefties" also form the overwhelming amount of animators that are constantly pushing the boundaries of what is acceptable.

/pol/ not exactly taking the brightest posters nowadays are they?
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>>87664354
My three biggest worries are that they cover the characters up, that they attempt to make it more plot heavy and fail, and that they make Nekron a creep towards Teegra rather than Larn.
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>>87664521
>/pol/ not exactly taking the brightest posters nowadays are they?

It was literally soccer moms from the suburbs and religious types who got television and shit censored but you can't tell underage /pol/ that. Buckle your seatbelt. We're gonna have to deal with this for four years.
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>>87664511
>That's wrong. There's clear favoritism towards that niche of anime fans.
or its just what you have with low budgets and not wanting to do stuff you could have done in live action
> staying up late at night to watch anime?
no one gives a shit. Tv shows hire people to make them content to put in between the ads, profit comes from dvd box set sales and various other merchandises and events
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>>87664481
Sadly yes, but the writing is almost Larry David tier.
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>>87664511
>That's wrong. There's clear favoritism towards that niche of anime fans.
The "otaku" anime that so triggers you is just a normal part of anime, and there are other kinds of anime. And "otaku" anime isn't a monolith either, or a clearly defined concept.

>Do you really believe anyone besides the most dedicated people are staying up late at night to watch anime?
People normally record the shows, and even if they didn't it does not negate what I just said.

>http://www.nekomagic.com/?tag=beach-queens
>http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/1016/0/1
>http://www.amiami.com/top/page/c/bishoujo.html
Note: I did not say there is no merchandise. I said there is no "waifu merchandise." And there isn't.

>>87664544
>or its just what you have with low budgets and not wanting to do stuff you could have done in live action
Budget doesn't affect anime in that way, and shows such as K-On would be trivial to accomplish in live action.
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>>87663930

They're still around, its just that 99% of them are comedies because of South Park and Family Guy's success.

If you want adult cartoons that actually explore other genres and subjects, you'd have to look at foreign films.
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>>87663930
You mean like Sausage Party?
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>>87664543
This guy is right. It has always been the right winged conservatives that has been banning and censoring things. However, the neo-liberals/lefties of today have become lovers of censorship too.
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>>87663930
Same thing that happened to the rest of popular culture: SJWs.
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>>87664591
>The "otaku" anime that so triggers you is just a normal part of anime

They don't trigger me. I would be considered one of them.

>and there are other kinds of anime.

There are.

>And "otaku" anime isn't a monolith either, or a clearly defined concept.

It's a pretty defined concept. People who are obsessive about their hobbies. I still believe that anime otaku are a driving force behind the anime industry still being alive because it certainly isn't shit like Crunchyroll keeping it around.
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This came out in the 90's, and even lasted three seasons.
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>>87664623
Ironicially it was the "SJWs" of that time who made animation and comics for adults and got banned by conservatives. Little did they know that they wuld be banned by their successors too.
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>>87664633
Also this.
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>>87664633
But it's stil geek culture oriented so not really "adult" in the first place.
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>>87664633
Did season 3 flop or something?

Why was it cancelled so abruptly and why HBO just stopped trying with animation?
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>>87664629
>They don't trigger me. I would be considered one of them.
Then what are you complaining about?

>It's a pretty defined concept.
It really isn't. Love Live for example is something that people here would peg as "otaku anime" for sure, yet it has sold extremely well, the movie was the eight most popular domestic movie last year, the mobile game has 18 million players, and the series has seen all kinds of mainstream exposure. Girls und Panzer is another example.
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>>87664659
From what I understand, it was cancelled because it was very expensive to produce, even with only six episode seasons.
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>>87664283
Not really. Some are, but a lot aren't.
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>>87664274
Are there any quality FHD remasters of Red cartoons? All I can find is VHS copies.
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>>87664675
Well, it was pretty good.

Still, 60% of it was Simmons brooding in the dark.
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>>87664591
>K-On would be trivial to accomplish in live action.
oh yeah find me jap girls that can looks so distinctly, can act and even fake playing an instrument. Im sure trip to london could have been done in the backyard.
>Budget doesn't affect anime in that way,
yes it does. it does not seem that way at first because only in very rare cases are there stretchered out shots. These days they just cut away to stationary objects for 5+ seconds, often every 10 seconds. camera moving away from action like a mild shaky camera is also a factor. lets not forget all the rushed drawing jobs that they "fix" only in BD release
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>>87664647
Funny how that works. Almost as if censorship is terrible no matter who's doing it.
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>>87664155
lol he's saying that CGI is such a huge part of those movies that they're basically animated. Why are you being a dick?
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>>87664664

I'm not complaining. The guy said anime was for children and I said adults are a larger consumer of anime and spend more money on it.
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Okay before we get the shitfest going, let's define (or at least categorize) "adult" animation.

* porn
* political (Coonskin, Heavy Traffic, American Pop)
* drama (anything that isn't action or adventure or the above)

Anything else?
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>>87664706
You accused studios of pandering.

>>87664715
The basic definition would be animation that is intended for an adult audience.
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>>87664633
>three seasons.
>less than 24 eps
With often poor voice acting
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>>87664729
>You accused studios of pandering.

I did but I never said I was mad about it or that it was a bad thing. You assumed that.
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>>87664739
Then why are you accusing studios of pandering? What is your angle here? What are you trying to pull?
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>>87664735
Keith David did a great job as Spawn, and the guy who voiced Clown was pretty good too. The rest of the acting was actually pretty hit or miss.
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>>87664753

Because I'm saying that a big portion of anime and manga is made for adults because they buy the most of it.
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>>87664715
>fantasy with blood
>gundam, etc
>depressing shit like blue gender
>comfy like yuujinchou
>philosophy/pseudo philosophy ergo proxy,kino no tabi
>romance were characters actually hook up or come close to it
>work drama about working X job, anything from a civil servant to whatever else gov is pushing
>mahjong/go anime
etc
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>no more undergrads
>no more clone high
>no more Mission Hill
Just end the suffering
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>>87664715
American Pop isn't political. Out of the 3 categories you listed it would fit best under drama. You also left out comedy. We then run into the very big problem of genre overlap, especially if we are seperating out political, comedy and drama all which can easily crossover in the same movie.

The best method to define adult animation would be like >>87664729 said, animation intended for a "mature" audience.
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>>87664793
To be fair only one of those was actually good.
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>>87664025
>>87663930
>>87664419
>>87664468
>>87664758


I'm actually thinking of doing a proper statistics comparing french and american animated series to see if there really is an acceptance for mature content in the former.
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>>87664812
End your life
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>>87664770
You said studios pander to otaku.
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>>87664664
You are just mixing the concept. It's not a genre, nor a definition of the consumption material, or even a demographic. It's just a term for an specific behavior in people. Being obsessive about a hobby.
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>>87664831

Yes and the majority of otaku are adults. What's the issue?
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>>87664862
I was talking about "otaku anime," not "otaku."

>>87664866
The issue is that you are making a false accusation.
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>>87664818
No need to be upset, anon. You can feel nostalgic about things that weren't actually that good. It's normal.
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>>87663930
Nothing, they still exist.
But you'd rather watch whatever Disney puts out.

>>87664815
>series
You're better off comparing movies, TV shows are rarely aimed at adults.
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>>87664902
Thats what your ex told me about your dick
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>>87663930
They got replaced by live actions enhanced by CGI
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>>87664779
>>>/a/
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>>87664197
He will, Anon. He will.
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>>87664729
Snow White is intended for adults. Is it adult animation?
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>>87663930
It turns out adults Pirate everything on thee planet and don't buy anything sooo...
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>>87664700

He's got a point though, they can easily do something like K-On. Now if it would be GOOD on the other hand is an entirely different story. Japan's had a couple of adaptations of anime/manga medium that have fallen flat.
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>>87664951
Joke's on you. I don't even have an ex. Or a dick.
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>>87664700
Japan has professional actresses and having actors play instruments has been done hundreds of times, there is nothing unusual about it.

>yes it does.
Everything in anime is drawn and painted. You can draw aliens and paint space stations just as easily as humans and high schools. Budget has nothing to do with it.

>These days they just cut away to stationary objects for 5+ seconds, often every 10 seconds. camera moving away from action like a mild shaky camera is also a factor. lets not forget all the rushed drawing jobs that they "fix" only in BD release
What the hell are you talking about?

>>87665059
I said it's the basic definition. What is and isn't considered for adults is culturally determined and may change over time.
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>>87665106
TORONTO
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>>87665106

SOUTHSIDE BEYOTCH
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>>87665115
>What the hell are you talking about?

If that sentence confused you then you know literally absolutely nothing about anime and probably shouldn't be arguing.
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>>87665273
I know more than you.

You're trying to change the subject because you can't explain yourself.
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>>87665319
No, you really don't know shit and probably don't watch any. Are you a compulsive liar or something?
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>>87665115
>Japan has professional actresses and having actors play instruments has been done hundreds of times
yeah but overlap between a voice actress who can be anyone including woman in her 40s. Yes you could fake a guitar play but why do that when you can just take a sound and draw to it?
>You can draw aliens and paint space stations just as easily as humans and high schools. Budget has nothing to do with it.
are you clinically retarded? yes budget has no effect set wise but you have to animate motion, even with speed lines and all the other tricks, action takes more budget then just guys talking in a room.
>What the hell are you talking about?
I guess I have my answer. Im out
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>>87665319
>can't spot basic cinematography of a low budget anime
>drawn and painted
CG cars, furniture, etc must be made of magic
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>>87665330
I know more than you and watch more anime than you. Fuck off.

>>87665343
>yeah but overlap between a voice actress who can be anyone including woman in her 40s.
What?

>Yes you could fake a guitar play but why do that when you can just take a sound and draw to it?
We are talking about a live action production.

>are you clinically retarded?
No, but you are.

>yes budget has no effect set wise but you have to animate motion, even with speed lines and all the other tricks, action takes more budget then just guys talking in a room.
There's shit-tons of action shows, it doesn't require any special budget. Even One Punch Man had an average budget.

>I guess I have my answer. Im out
So you can't explain yourself? Yeah, I guess it's better if you leave.

>>87665363
>can't spot basic cinematography of a low budget anime
What are you talking about?

>CG cars, furniture, etc must be made of magic
Drawing and painting are the basic building blocks of anime. Just because I didn't mention 3D rendering doesn't mean I'm unaware of its existence.
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>>87663969

So did kids, that's why they're written more for adults now.
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>>87663930
This happened to adult cartoons.
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people like comedy cartoons more than mysteries, dramas, and horror cartoons. Comedy cartoons are also MUCH easier to create than any other genera because why waste time making an continuum story when you can just create episodic episodes that can be reaired at any time without needing to watch a previous episode
from a business stand point comedy cartoons for adults is the best thing to do
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>>87664110
Have you not seen the animated Queen of the Black Coast?
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>>87665115
>I gave a definition that doesn't work and now I'm piling up more shit
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>>87666005
What are you talking about?
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Without getting into the stigmatism that animation and comics are 'only' a children's medium, the problem is that an animated project needs to be able to do something that live action can't AND be appealing enough to garner an audience.

Any kind of drama? Cheaper to film live actors than draw it.

Science fiction/fantasy is a good genre to go with but it's kind of a lateral move, since you could spend just as much building a dragon castle set or make spaceship minatures/CGI and green screen the actors.

Horror *could* be a possible genre the medium could thrive, but for horror to be profitable, it has to either unique or thoroughly appealing, or it's an attempt to cash in on someone else's unique horror story and in those situations with imitations.

Comedy, on the other hand, is the exception, because adult humor (and I don't just mean boob jokes or sex innuendo) is distinct from children's fair in the eyes of society, and animated comedy can go farther with the jokes and situations. Also, in a cynical way, humor animation doesn't need to be lavish and is much cheaper to produce. South Park's over the top and oftentimes insane satire couldn't be replicated with a set in front of a live studio audience. Same for the Simpsons and while it's a repulsive show, even Family Guy can do more and get away with more than if it was a live comedy.
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>>87664372
>I don't think anyone but Gaiman actually picked up on it, though.

He... wrote the script?

I liked the way they did a faithful adaptation of the legend but twisted it by making B an unreliable narrator in the legend.
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>>87664934

Noted
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The FCC happened
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>>87663930
>what happened to adult cartoons?
They still exist if you're willing to escape from your little western bubble.
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>>87665509
God those designs are so hideous.
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>>87663939
Quality bait
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>>87664090
In which episodes is Pearl shown as a perverted mean son of a bitch? It's always the skinny faggots that are the most crazy and sex crazed.
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>>87663930
There was a real effort to put them out by ambitious animators from the early 70's to the early 80's.

The 70's was the era of New Hollywood, when directors like Martin Scorsesse, George Lucas, Robert Altman, Francis Ford Coppola, Steven Spielberg, ect. where able to make artistically challenging and financially profitable films. Auteur theory was "in" and the Director was God. They where given massive budgets and very little creative interference from the studios.

This was reflected in animated movies like the ones from Ralph Bakshi (Lord of the Rings, Heavy Traffic, Fritz the Cat, American Pop, Coonskin) and the Canadian animation studios that produced Heavy Metal and Rock N Rule.

In 1980 the western Heaven's Gate was released by directed by Michael Cimino was a hugely publicized financial and artistic disappointment (coupled with highly publicized on set overspending and delayed shooting) that lead to Transamerica Corporation to sell of United Artists to MGM and effectively close down that studio.


TL;DR: Bad financial timing, the fact that animated films are time consuming, slow to react to change and hard to market led to them being pretty much scrapped for the last 40 years.
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>>87664062
I don't know what they're complaining about non-adult animated movies because to me there's enough artistic mature movies in animated form to go around like After Earth, Anastasia, Atlantis.

And plenty of shitty indie-film garbage which has no merit of being called artistic nor mature.
http://movies.about.com/od/animatedmovies/tp/animated-films-for-adults.html


The whole point of maturity is intelligence and rationality. Not about dramatic lies over "oh how horrible the world is, oh woe is me" get over it you crying failure.

My main gripe is the obscene lsck of quality for tv series where the writers+director just doesn't give the slightest fuck about making an artistic/quality-driven project.


I wished for Tron Uprising to be the breakthrough in cinematic-quality tv series.
I was needlessly disappointed with absolute dog shit writing paired with the low framerate CGI.
I've seen more mature writing in The Last Airbender and better flash animation in Motorcity.

Justice League, Young Justice, Teen Titans and Avengers are commercial garbage where the characters pretend to act mature and edgy for the sake of entertainment. I much prefered the original comic books of the TEEN titans where they actually have a personality.
Looks like The Last Airbender still comes to be the most mature in terms of writing, not themes and atmosphere. Adults just aren't into this fantasy garbage with magic powers and skinny 10 year olds defeating 40 year olds with buffed muscle.

Wacky cartoons can be exceedengly gruesome, sick, adult, dramatic, depressing, moving(in a pathetic kind of manner) despite their bullshit "it's just a joke, bro.". Just a joke over my /co/ browsing history.
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>>87669147
Anime has the same exact problem as Family Guy, Fritz the Cat and Batman the animated series.

So you have this rich kid who trained around the globe in order to dedicate his life to fighting crime in the name of his dead parents. Using up all his money and life for a simplistic goal because 1 criminal. Only to have him put on an entertainment mask, pretend to act serious and then see him fighting baby doll, a bunch of other masked idiots and crazed fruitloops. You kind of lose any fucks you had for this show and immedistely notice that Marvel and DC's creations are nothing but garbage saturday morning cartoons meant for children pretending to be adults.
When they start making those juvenile jokes, using that cheesy dialogue, being pseudo-intellectual and pretending they know their shit then it just makes me want to laugh even as an 8 year old.

It's pathetic, ridiculouse, tryhard and above all stupid.
I especially hate the nudity and blood in anime, it's obnoxious and our version of diapers, farts and literal shit jokes.

Seriously... your parents are dead and you use up your life being a "super" hero? Only to end up with your city still a pile of degeneracy, your social life dead and the cops hating you because they're corrupted assholes. Real smart move, genius. Real fucking rational.
Superman made more sense because at least he gets shit done. Unfortunately nobody has to deal with giant meteorites in his slice of life.
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>>87669421
>I especially hate the nudity and blood in anime, it's obnoxious and our version of diapers, farts and literal shit jokes.
No it isn't. And why are you trying to drag anime into this anyway?
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>b-but Sausage Party will usher in a new age of R-rated animation! Not just dick and fart jokes, but legitimate mature themes and stories!
Where did this notion even come from?
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>>87669641
The strangest thing is that some people think you need an R rating to make something serious.
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>>87663930
As far as lewd goes People don't embrace fapping to toons in the west. Even when they had adult cartoons it didn't get to hardcore.
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>>87669674
Well, we haven't even had a PG-13 animated film in 7 years (since 9)
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>>87669641
No idea where it originated but it sure caught fire here. Pre-release Sausage Party threads were full of that.
>THIS WILL LEAD TO THE MATURE ANIMATION RENAISSANCE!
>not really at best it's just gonna be copycat lol weed movies
>NO SHUT UP YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS WILL BE THE DAWNING OF A NEW AGE
>not it won't how is this going to lead to mature movies
>IT JUST WILL OKAY YOU HAVE TO BELIEVE
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>>87669565
Yes it is *bitchslaps*, cunt. You're making me rp, that's how cancerous your cheap buck-toothed japs cartoons are.

Because every japan fanboy in denial seems to think anime is quality and mature-driven just because it's written by talentless manchildren suffering from aspergers who can't have any etiquette, rational thought and a mature mentality if their whole island was on the line.

Anime is basically what that weird goth kid in class would write, together with his autistic sex robot-crazed friend. They're both idiots who have nothing to do with artistic things and depth.
They're lazy cheating degenerates, that's why japanese can't even respect the 12 principles of animation. They're too shit and stubborn to do anything but sketch animatics with tacked-on inbetweens, they're just that fucking lazy and irresponsible to do more than 1 side of the job.
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>>87664063
>anime
>more open about sexuality
You sexualization and fetishism, which I have no problem with mind you, but there's a big difference. Anime, for the most part, deals with actual sexuality in the same way Family Guy deals with social issues (as in, not that well desu). Very few anime actually explore things like sexuality with any sense of maturity or subtlety.
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>>87669878
>Yes it is *bitchslaps*, cunt. You're making me rp, that's how cancerous your cheap buck-toothed japs cartoons are.
You're doing that on your own, dude. Good job showing us you're underage, by the way.
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>>87669878
>Yes it is *bitchslaps*, cunt.
No it isn't. Go fuck yourself.

>You're making me rp, that's how cancerous your cheap buck-toothed japs cartoons are.
They aren't cheap nor are they cartoons.

>Because every japan fanboy in denial seems to think anime is quality and mature-driven just because it's written by talentless manchildren suffering from aspergers who can't have any etiquette, rational thought and a mature mentality if their whole island was on the line.
>Anime is basically what that weird goth kid in class would write, together with his autistic sex robot-crazed friend. They're both idiots who have nothing to do with artistic things and depth.
This is just fucking gibberish.

>They're lazy cheating degenerates, that's why japanese can't even respect the 12 principles of animation.
You can take your 12 principles and shove them up your fucking ass. They are not scientific laws, they were just Disney's idea of how to make animation. Nobody has to follow them.

>They're too shit and stubborn to do anything but sketch animatics with tacked-on inbetweens, they're just that fucking lazy and irresponsible to do more than 1 side of the job.
Anime is vastly superior to Western animation, so go fuck yourself. Fucking subhuman.

>>87669883
Moving the goalposts. Being open about sexuality does not mean some "mature and subtle" "exploration" of sexuality must be conducted.
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Who remembers animated movies which were actually made for an older audience?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njRH_EDfLpA
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>>87669878
>that's why japanese can't even respect the 12 principles of animation
Even in the west only a few people outside Disney have adopted that as a real rule of thumb, though.
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>>87663930

>what happened to adult cartoons?

The Animation Age Ghetto, as installed by cheap TV animation like The Flintstones.
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>>87670016
Spirits Within, another adult oriented animation which the fans of The Matrix and Aliens would have enjoyed. I remember every weeaboo being disappointed thst it wasn't their final fantasy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUXVOfdGE4o
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>>87670110
Is Kingsglaive better or worse?
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>>87669964
Good job on me for revealing what a die-hard weeaboo this guy is. >>87669988. It's good to be a brat for the right reasons.
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>>87670226
I'm not a weeaboo. Go fuck yourself.
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>>87669988
Maybe you should give examples of anime that are open about sexuality, because the idea of sexuality is completely different than the one anime tends to portray. I can remember FLCL actually touching puberty and teenage sexuality really well despite the show being a wild and crazy adventure about cosmic space pirates, evil corporations wanting to destroy the Earth and interdimensional robots, but that's one of the few I can remember. A ton of anime tend to just be sex appeal or teases for sexual gratification more than actually touching in those subjects. Mind you, this is an issue in American animation, too, especially the ones aimed supposedly at adults.
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>>87670135
Much better, Spirits Within was painfully generic.
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>>87664703

Because the intent of the thread is clear, and a cartoon is not the same as a live action film with a heavy special effects component.

You can fuck around with the definitions and the language if you want to be clever, but the question is clearly about Heavy Metal, not Life of Pi.
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>>87670282
>Maybe you should give examples of anime that are open about sexuality
There is no need since it's such a common, normal thing.

>A ton of anime tend to just be sex appeal or teases for sexual gratification more than actually touching in those subjects.
It is not necessary to "touch in those subjects." You are just being pretentious.
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>>87664688
This. every episode was some bad dude fucking shit up in the alley and spawn just whoops his ass while Sam and Twitch are being based
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>>87667368
fuck off weeb I want American love
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>>87670439
You don't know what weeb means.
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>>87669878
>Yes it is *bitchslaps*, cunt. You're making me rp, that's how cancerous your cheap buck-toothed japs cartoons are.
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>>87664018
God, Sausage Party is probably one of the worse movies I've seen.
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>>87670110
I liked it, but not because it was a Final Fantasy movie.
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>>87670284
this
Spirits Within was hot garbage
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>>87670787
>Screencap this for future prosperity, /co/.
Why? What purpose would saving this post serve?
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>>87670787
This is some middle school shit right here
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>>87663930
Nothing. Japanese are still making them, top quality as always. Why?
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>>87670787
>I've made my number

what does this even mean
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>>87670787
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>>87670787
>Remind me again how a weeaboo(japanese cartoon fanboy) is any different from an ungrateful muslim and an arrogant african monkey.
That's not weeaboo means you retard.

>As long as you're posting on /co/ you will respect me and the content inside it, you autistic snot-nosed prick.
Fuck you. Fucking subhuman piece of shit. Go fuck yourself. You have no authority here.

>Talking with you is like doing a piss fight with a 4 year old in a 15 year old's body. You pretentious, sociopathic retard. You have absolutely no ethic and common sense for arguing, no problem. I know how treat a cunt-sucking loser like yourself. Don't commit suicide, stay here and be my punching bag forever like you deserve. You won't even deserve to be left alone, you're worse than a furfag.
Go fuck yourself. Fucking cunt. Piece of shit.

>"Moving the goalposts" You're the one who just moved the goalposts, you hypocritical, projecting failure.
No I didn't. Fucking moron.

>You come to my board
This is not your board. Go fuck yourself.

>you're an inferior faggot who hates who he is and takes all his frustrations on others
You are projecting. Fuck you.

>You know your tastes are shit
Shit taste is a meme. Retard.

> you know anime is made by deluded weirdos for kissless autistic "virgins" like you.
No it isn't. Fucking moron.

>You're an insanely, stubborn retard with the mindset of an autistic mudslime.
Go fuck yourself subhuman.

>Take your sorry ass back to /a/ where you belong.
I'm not from /a/. Retard.

>If this were real life you'd be in the hospital right now.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. How fucking delusional are you?
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>>87670787
>Blood, gore and sex is considered immature, degenerate and stupid, exactly like farts, piss, shit jokes.
There is more blood, gore and sex in American TV than there is in anime yet virtually nobody complains about it. Fucking hypocrite.

>Go cut your balls off to remove the testosterone so you can stop fawning over drawn japanese cartoon girls, you stupid, uneducated, mentally defunct animal.
Fuck you you fucking subhuman piece of fucking shit.

>I've made my number, now I'll go back to discussing good animation for intelligent audiences.
Western animation is fucking doshit compared to anime. You stupid fucking piece of shit.
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>>87670787
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>>87670787
>>87670885
I'm almost certain these two posts are from the same person
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>>87670910
I'm almost certain you're a fucking meme-spouting retard.
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>>87670910
Yeah, this guy's creating his own strawman to look cool, I guess because he wants us to screencap his "sick own" for internet cred?

Too bad his takedown still makes him look like a retard, even if his sockpuppet wasn't blatantly softballing him.
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>>87663939
This mindeset is why many classic animations didn't get the awards they deserved.
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>>87670936
Fucking memelord retard. Do you think every fucking time there's an argument on the internet it's the same person? That's what you fucking idiots have been constantly claiming lately. It's a fucking meme and you're a fucking idiot for repeating it. Kill yourself.
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>>87670926
>meme-spouting
You don't even know what this means, do you?
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>>87670959
Yes I do you stupid fucking piece of shit.
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>>87670954
I get the feeling you're upset, son
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>>87670972
I get the feeling you're a fucking subhuman.
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>>87670954
You'd have a stronger case if you didn't end your post with "screencap my wicked hella badass response"

Also you need to be 18 to post here.
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>>87671001
I never said ""screencap my wicked hella badass response" anywhere you fucking liar. Fuck you.

>Also you need to be 18 to post here.
Then get the fuck out of here.
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>>87670987
>subhuman
Say, that's the favorite word of the "weeb" you're arguing with. Hmmmmmm.
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>>87671014
>I never said ""screencap my wicked hella badass response"
No?
>>87670787
>Screencap this for future prosperity, /co/.
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>>87671019
I'm not arguing with any "weeb" you fucking idiot.

>>87671022
>You still type like that silent weirdo with failing grades which I used to punch him in the face and feel like he deserved it.
You're still a fucking subhuman piece of shit cunt.

>Always treat weeaboos with authority when you feel like it, /co/. They're your punching bag, not theirs.
Anime is superior to Western animation. Go fuck yourself.

>>87671033
>No?
No. You fucking moron. That isn't my post.
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>>87670787
>>87671022
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>>87671042
Oh god he completely forgot which of his two personas was being responded to. This is too cute.
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>>87671042
Wait, we started out laughing at the "epic takedown, anime is shit!" guy... and the "anime is great and you're shit!" guy is the one now responding.

Hmmm...
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>>87671053
Again, you stupid fucking piece of shit: this is a fucking meme. People suddenly decided that every time there's an argument it just somehow MUST BE a single person, because holy shit how could there be arguments on the internet in 2000 fucking 16?

Kill yourself you subhuman piece of trash. Fucking cunt.
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>>87671084
There are two people involved you goddamn fucking retard piece of shit fuck face.
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>>87671084
He's really new to this.
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>>87671092
If this is the case, that means you're inexplicably coming to the defense of the guy you're supposedly angrily arguing with and calling subhuman filth.
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If you only mean movies, most are being made outside of North America. Plenty, not many, as much as the '70s at least, animated film aimed at adults in other countries. TV series, unless it is comedy, don't do well because unlike movies which can be just someone pet's project or faith in success, they have to rely on staying alive or being renewed on a TV network that might care for the series in question. A movie, and not just an animated movie here, can do more shit when they only have to worry about a small run using a story that may or not be concluded under and / or above two hours. That is why the only adult cartoons outside Japan you will see are still just movies that pander to a niche. Much like series in live action are saturated with crime show and sitcoms, we are saturated on comedy cartoons until someone gets lucky and makes a serious cartoon series that can make bank and get the executives to cash the fad, like The Simpsons kick started the adult comedy boom in the '90s.
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>>87671095
See >>87671092 YOU FUCKING IDIOT.

>>87671112
You have no idea what the fuck you're talking about you fucking moron.
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>>87663954
>you're gonna have to watch anime.
what about the quality of the show?
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>>87671129
Why are you so angry if we're all laughing at the guy you're arguing with? I don't see your problem, unless you're also that guy and completely forgot which "character" you were playing.

Noticeably, that other guy has mysteriously gone quiet.
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>>87663978
Beowulf was crap. They should have made a movie based on the Grendel book.
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>>87671151
>Why are you so angry if we're all laughing at the guy you're arguing with?
You're claiming we're the same person because you're a fucking meme-spouting retard piece of shit subhuman.

>Noticeably, that other guy has mysteriously gone quiet.
So fucking what? Fucking moron.
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>>87671141
>what about the quality of the show?

Watch Gundam Thunderbolt. You won't regret it.
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>>87671129
Calm down. Quit arguing with yourself. We're your friends we wanna help you. It's just that you're having a psychosis fit and you forgot that you were fighting with yourself, pretending to be 2 different users.
Why did you call yourself a snot-nosed prick? Is it because you feel that way about yourself? Are you a genuinely shit person? Is that why you hate yourself?
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I'm disappointed it took me so long to hear about and watch this, but at least it still came out this decade.
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>>87671212
>Quit arguing with yourself.
I am not arguing with myself you stupid fucking goddamn piece of shit cunt subhuman.

>Why did you call yourself a snot-nosed prick?
I didn't, you fucking moron.

You fucking retard idiot pieces of fucking shit. Fucking meme-spouting mentally ill retards.
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>>87671215
It was really great, despite my distaste for no dialogue dramatic animations.
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>>87671165
>You're claiming we're the same person because you're a fucking meme-spouting retard piece of shit subhuman.
Because that's the only way your bizarre reaction makes sense. We were all laughing at the guy you're arguing with- then you suddenly and inexplicably started defensively responding to us, even though we weren't arguing with you.

Let me illustrate what happened:

>Poster A: Fuck you, what you like is shit!
>Poster B: Fuck you, what you like is shit! Screencap my post!
>Other Posters: Ha ha Poster B is such a loser
>Poster A: SHUT UP I'M NOT A LOSER

Do you see what went wrong here?
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>>87669130
Nice image.
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>>87671235
Are you ok? Did you take your medicine? Perhaps you should call an ambulance and stay in the hospital for a while.
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>>87671248
>then you suddenly and inexplicably started defensively responding to us, even though we weren't arguing with you.
Because, again, you are fucking claiming we are the same person. You stupid fucking piece of fucking shit. Retard. Cunt.

>Let me illustrate what happened:
Go fuck yourself. You have no fucking idea what's going on here.

>>87671257
I am ok, but you are a fucking moron. Fucking retard. Subhuman. Cunt.
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>>87671240
But didn't it have a ton of dialogue?
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>>87671266
>Because, again, you are fucking claiming we are the same person. You stupid fucking piece of fucking shit. Retard. Cunt.
But then why are you coming to the other guy's defense?
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>>87671271
I'm not, you fucking retard. Fucking idiot. Fucking piece of shit. Go fuck yourself.
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>>87671266
Psst. Word of advice, since you're new to 4chan: angrily responding only makes them more likely to keep picking on you.
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So does anyone think there's any hope for Urbance to become a series?
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>>87671290
I'm not new to 4chan you fucking liar. Fucking cunt.
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>>87671299
I like how you completely ignored that advice.
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>>87671316
I like how you're a fucking lying piece of shit.
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>>87671321
I'm lying about you ignoring the advice?
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>>87663930
Ralph Bakshi didn't make enough money.
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>>87671339
You're lying about me being new to 4chan. Fuck you.
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>>87663978
I fucking loved The Spirits Within, screw you
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>>87671299
An assumption isn't a lie- he has no idea if you're actually new or not, but is assuming you are. If he were lying, he'd actually know for sure whether you were new or not, but would still say you were new even while knowing it isn't true.

You'd know the difference between a lie and an assumption if you weren't 12
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>>87663930
Tell me more about Pic related, anon.
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>all this cursing

Did one of the characters from Sauasage Party wander into the thread?
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>>87670608
Worse than John Waters films? Worse than A Dirty Shame?
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>>87671363
Shut the fuck up you fucking retard.

>You'd know the difference between a lie and an assumption if you weren't 12
Projection. Fucking piece of shit.
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Well the most darken and adulty cartoons in the 1969 short film "Ego" directed by Bruno Bozzetto, which this story is about a nightmare that gone out of control.

See it for yourself:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpHVWeSuWIs
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This is just getting sad.
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>>87671291
Here's the pilot, for those unfamiliar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F_rXxp6KY8
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>>87671378
>Hey about the hospital thing. I mean it, call your parents, an ambulance and tell them to register you at their psychiatric ward for the clinically insane who are so dumb they throw their shit around even towards the people who help him.
GO FUCK YOURSELF. You are the one with the fucking mental issues you fucking piece of shit cunt subhuman.

>I love it when weeaboos get pushed around.
You didn't push anyone around you delusional fucking moron.

>When they spout their copy-pasta all day because they have no idea how to respond accordingly to context.
I haven't used any copy pasta you fucking liar.

>Look /co/. I told you. Stop even trying to give them a finger. A weeaboo is like an automatic shit-flinging machine who doesn't know who he's aiming at.
Go fuck yourself you stupid fucking cunt. Anime is superior to Western animation and you're all just fucking trash.

>Muslims/africans are naturally stupid, they can't understand why they got belt whipped in the first place.
I'm not Muslim or African you fucking moron. Fucking retard.
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>>87671378
>>87671417
Does your mother know you're sockpuppeting on 4chan? She worries about you, you know. Don't do this to her. Don't break her heart like this.
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>>87671417
Oh oh man, I think I really got to him with the psychiatric ward. Well as much as you can get to a dense motherfucker.
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>>87671452
I am not sock puppeting you stupid fucking ignorant meme-spouting piece of fucking shit. Two people arguing doesn't mean they're the same fucking person you goddamn fucking moron. Go fuck yourself and then kill yourself. Piece of shit.
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>>87671469
You are projecting. Go fuck yourself.
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>>87664063
>SU characters aren't dtf
lol wut
Pearl is an actual sex addict
Amethyst tried to fuck Steven's dad
Kevin is desperately in lust with Stevonnie
Sadie's entire relationship with Lars is based around the possibility that he will fuck her again one day
I mean yeah the show hides it well but like Rocko's Modern Life it's kiddie viewers will realize things later in life
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>>87671417
This is the first time you used caps lock. Something the matter?

Go find your happy place >>>a/
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>>87671378
>>87671417
>>87671470
Thanks for the samefag comedy, /co/.
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>>87671499
Fuck you you fucking piece of fucking shit.

>Go find your happy place >>>a/
Go fuck yourself you fucking moron. I didn't even bring up anime in the first place. Fuck you.

>>87671511
I AM NOT FUCKING SAMEFAGGING YOU GODDAMN FUCKING MORON. KILL YOURSELF.
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>>87671529
>I didn't even bring up anime in the first place.
Sure you didn't. Keep samefagging.
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>>87663930
Get High and Watch Heavy Metal

You won't regret it
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>>87670016
Titan AE was so good, it's massively underrapreciated
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>>87664283
Thanks for the input, 4kids
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the logic behind why we don't have adult animation is like this:
>I want to make this [insert idea]
>but....why you don't make this live-action instead? It would cost less
>well sir I'm um....I have ideas...and uh it will be different and sir...sir? We are you going with that huge bag of money? Sir? SIR!

This is how it works. You may not like it. I don't like it. But that's how it works.

Nobody in the west would make Wrinkles as a animated film. The producers would rather have made an actual live action film.
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>>87671639
>>87671675
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>>87671684
It is, so was Anastasia just because it didn't come out of Disney.

Instead Atlantis got tons of praise... and almost got a tv series.
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If you like music videos then see this hot animated music video that has been playing on youtube this month.

https://youtu.be/t7Q3QtD9DWc
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>>87671727
Atlantis was planned to be a huge franchise like, say, Frozen, but actually didn't do as well as Disney had planned and just kind of got ignored instead.
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>>87671732
>>87671749
He's having a stroke, ignore him.
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>>87671766
Ok weeaboo we get it, you fuck yourself at night. Go see the doctor already.
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>>87671816
I love you. Be my sockpuppet wife.
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>>87671373
I've never seen any of those
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>>87671816
YOUR MOTHER ABORTED YOU.
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>>87671141
As with most things, it varies.
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This thread got weird fast
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>>87671886
Will you be my waifu, you fat disgusting weeaboo?
(I'll fuck you in the ass, baby. All night, I love you. I know you goat fuckers enjoy it)
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>>87665582
But this is exactly why Wander Over Yonder was cancelled. Episodic plots are starting to disappear from modern cartoons.
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>>87671886
Weeaboo, will you take Bugs Bunny to be your loving husband for all eternity?
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>>87664304
Bullshit. You've never been to Japan.
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>>87672072
I'll take that as a yes.

If any /co/mrade has a strong objection towards why Bugs Bunny shouldn't marry this, fat turd, stupid, perverted weeaboo.

Speak now or forever stay silent.
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By the power invested in me, I now pronounce you husband and fat neckbeard, you may now kiss the bride.
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replaced by anime. westerners can't compete with the japanese in this respect.
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>>87672184
Oh god, I always tell myself not to cry at weddings and I always do it...
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>>87672197
>>87672206
Come here baby I'll show how to spiderman kiss /co/-style.

You'll be my loving sex slave in my harem of fat neckbeards. Now cook my dinner, bitch. I'll bring the real animation back home, you just be my waifu.
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>>87672230
It's okay man, this is a beautiful day and we all cherish their love
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>>87672206
>>87672270
You need to calm down and watch some cartoons.
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dis gud
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>>87672270
>Hey... wait a second, Tony. If they's getting married then we's out of our job. Those fst neckbeards over at /a/ will ask for half our board in the divorce.
>Hmm... you're right. Time to call it off.
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>>87672339
I think after he got caught sockpuppeting, he just went full "FUCK YOU" to make it seem like he was only pretending to be stupid.
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>>87672379
I NEVER SOCKPUPPETED YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT. FUCKING CUNT. FUCKING LIAR. FUCKING SUBHUMAN. FUCK YOU YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU.
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>>87672379
Yeah, that sounds about right. Anyone else would've quietly disappeared and stopped reacting but he's just getting louder and angrier and trying desperately to make it look like he was never stupid and this has all been an act.
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Because nowadays you either get a pornfest, a shitty Family Guy clone, or a 2deep4u story about a person with depression.

and they're all comedies.
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>>87669130
Heavy Metal 2000 is shit; Starchaser: The Legend Of Orrin is superior to that waste of film.
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>>87672335
What did you say, bub?

Bugs Bunny is my husbando...

*cue funny SFX punches, kicks, slapstick humour, chair crushing, plate breaking ensues*
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>>87670226
>>87670271

Nothing wrong with anime, you cunts.
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>>87672449
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>>87664063

>Stephen Universe

>not open about sexuality
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Because animation is still a genre to westerners.
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>>87669147
>Tron Uprising, JLU AND Teen Titans
>bad

I didn't think it was possible to have taste this objectively shitty.
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>>87671816
Started by Weeaboo
Directed by a unique /co/mrade.

This was an original /co/ production, we hope you loved it.

(No cartoon characters were harmed during the production of this venture. Only 1 really ugly muslim who loves anime)
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>>87672602
>ANIME AND CARTOONS ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT MORON CUNT SUBHUMAN RETARD. FUCK YOU.
>
>ANIME IS SUPERIOR TO WESTERN ANIMATION. FUCK YOU.

Anime and Animation are the same thing, just as Manga and Comics are the same thing.

QED.
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>>87672613
>This thread in a nutshell.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYBce9Gsz7g
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>>87671860
That is a good policy, you should maintain it.
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>>87672607
You've obviously never been to /tv/
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If you had to turn all your childhood cartoons into a mature version then how would you do it, /co/?
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>>87672547
Okay, friend lets fuck.
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>>87672889
Do whatever it takes to get bleedman to not take a year between pages. Animate it all when he's done with the ppg story :^)
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>>87672434
What if I told you, weeabos are really dumb as bricks and true /co/mrades who watched, Top Cat, Bugs Bunny and Animaniacs back in the day have developed a trolling habit?

>>87672889
I'd turn reboot "Ed Edd Eddy in the City", it would be like Grand Theft Auto, but with our favourite scam-artist characters.
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>>87671364

Fire and Ice, 1983. it's basically literally "Frank Frazetta Painting: The Movie"
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>>87672889
I wonder what Eddy's parents are like.
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http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Titan-A-E/Movie?id=3766

Someone wanna watch Titan: After Earth with me?
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>>87672117
>regurgitating /co/ groupthink

I actually have been to Japan, and I know for a fact that a lot of young adults there watch anime. Do you really think shit like Shinsekai Yori is made for five-year-olds? Don't be retarded.

Granted, most of them have pleb taste, but watching anime is not uncommon in Japan. Just as watching things like AT is not really all that uncommon in the west.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYqJOutmMGA

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Illusionist_(2010_film)

Supposedly this is what grown-ass adults like us should be watching and sympathizing with. Honestly I find this really boring and kinda shitty even as an adult.
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>>87673087
>What if I told you
Then I'd say you're full of shit.
I watched all those as a kid, even Top Cat despite it being Hanna-Barbara garbage, and I never bother with trolling.

When you've been here as long as I have, you too will stop bothering with retarded shit that belongs on /b/.
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>>87664283
Wow, it took my literally one search on youtube to completely disprove this notion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHuWC6gqnBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y31DPsTy-kE
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>>87664653

GOAT comic book adaptation, any format.

Doesn't even matter that they changed the ending, still that good.
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>>87673267
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY6p6eGZl3o

I still found the 2006 /tv/ movie much more appealing than the animation. But I'd like to hear about your opinions too, /co/.
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>>87673267
The Illusionist was pretty good.

The idea that only this style of for adults is retarded though.
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>>87664653

Possibly the only instance ever where the adaptation made the source material BETTER. In this case, by literally perfect VA casting.
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>>87663939
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>>87673267
>Supposedly this is what grown-ass adults like us should be watching and sympathizing with
Hey, if this isn't your thing that's fine, but don't pull the "ugh this is boring shit I can't believe adults like me are supposed to like it!" card.
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Are there any high-budget animated movies of Alexander Dumas' books?
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Hey, /co/. Does this count as mature?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4R0_BLaTW64
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>>87673267
>Supposedly this is what grown-ass adults like us should be watching and sympathizing with
You need to be 18 to post here
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>>87673477
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0reHLHGyQnM
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>>87672889
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_n3H_EuSzE

By simply keeping it lovable. Something the creators of the Thundercats reboot didn't understand.
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>>87672889
It looks like I'm already getting one.
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http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Final-Fantasy-The-Spirits-Within

I wish the movie was 1 hour longer in order to have more alien encounters and expeditions before shit hits the fan. I'm a sucker for horror sci-fi and this hit my Starcraft and Aliens fanboying just right.

If you guys have anymore horror sci-fi movies then I'd to know about them.
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>>87673267
I like it. I just thought Triplets was better and more entertaining.

I can completely understand why someone wouldn't like The Illusionist and I don't consider it a film for everybody.
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>>87669878
>Yes it is *bitchslaps*, cunt. You're making me rp, that's how cancerous your cheap buck-toothed japs cartoons are.

And people wonder why /co/ is a laughing-stock compared to other boards.
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All these replies and now mention of Bojack Horseman?

This is probably one of the best adult cartoons of all time
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>>87673477
>that scene were they try to get a pterodactyl egg
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>>87673432
There's probably a couple based on the ballet based on the book that Dumas ripped off from Hoffmann.

Also the Mickey Mouse version of The Three Musketeers, if you count it.
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>>87673754
eh the Dead Space animated movie is alright
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>>87671157
Not many people know this, but they did make a movie based on Grendel. In 1981. In Australia.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grendel_Grendel_Grendel
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>>87673823
To be fair, most of the replies are just people trolling that one faggot and him falling for it rather than actually discussing cartoons.
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Came in this thread expecting titties, saw a bunch of asses instead.
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>>87673805
Please, other boards get even more pissed off over furries, weeabos, bronies.
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People talk about adult anime for adults such as myself but what shows exactly are they talking about? I mean there a lot of series with gore and tits but most of them don't even try to develop mature themes and those that try generally fail.
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as far as I know, they never really existed
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>>87669641
Kubo was far more mature, and it featured paper wasps trying to sting a monkey in the butt.
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>>87672889
Basically it's Robocop meets Blade Runner meets Leon The Professional
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>>87669130
>watership down
netflix is remaking it
and its gonna be kid friendly
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>>87675321
Penny is now in the hospital. Inspector Gadget has put all his jokes in the closet, get his shit together and become a competent detective.
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>>87671774
I know there was some special, an Atlantis 2 Milo's Return, where Demona, that redhead gargoyle from Gargoyles makes a crossover with Atlantis.
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>>87671714
There are some things you just can't accomplish with real-life actors and a crap load of digital effects.

There are some times when people just need to see some 2D faces on those 3D rendered bodies.

http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Poet-Anderson-The-Dream-Walker/Movie?id=31364
Poet Anderson offers us a glimpse of what can be accomplished with 3D CGI masked as 2D animation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmdieHtgAjc
Tron Uprising was on its sure way to breach into this and offer us 20 episodes of greatly animated 2D-3D CGI. Before Disney thought that Star Wars shouldn't have any competition, thus they pulled all the budget and talent out of Tron. At least if we had gotten a clear 30 minute episode with the trailer's budget before they pulled it out.
Instead we got the Lion Guard animated with CGI 2D-look alike. Which not many consider it as an improvement and a revolutionary step into the future of animation.
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>>87663930
>I don't want to be hurt no more, you know what I mean.
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>>87676052
has kisscartoon fixed the ad problem, or am I going to get computer std going there,... asking for a friend
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>>87675321
So Doosex?
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>>87676099
It's sunday, they shouldn't have ads on weekends.
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Is Ghostbusters adult? Should it be?
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OP here. I was expecting /co/ would recommend me good adult themed movies similar to OP pic. But I got this shitshow instead.

Thanks /co/.
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>>87664063
I would say it's a combination of this and cartoon characters being so stylized as to not appear attractive to anyone.

If you want to beat off to Jasmine, great. Don't flood the internet with ponies and lisa because you're a sick, twisted fuck. No one seems to understand that one of the appeals of anime is that even the 'ugly' people in anime are moderately attractive.
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>>87676258
Any Bakshi film, Waltz with Bashir, Persepolis
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>>87676258
Most of /co/ doesn't watch anything that isn't on current American television.

Except anime.
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>>87672889
It either turns into a jumpscare fest or it goes full psychological horror.
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>>87664378
Most animators that push the enveloppe are lefties.
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>>87676428
Nah, It would just get into some fucked up plots, lot's of gore, but not the faggy one.

We are talking sex-with-limbs-of-5-year-olds type of gore. Would watch.
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>>87676718
>We are talking sex-with-limbs-of-5-year-olds type of gore. Would watch.

>The things I do for love.
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>>87676779
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>>87675367
It's always been kid friendly.
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>>87673823
You just have to root through the thread a bit
>>87676258
>>87673776
>>87673267
>>87671561
>>87671291
>>87671215
>>87670016
>>87670110
>>87669130
>>87664653
>>87664633
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Fuck I messed up the order. >>87677117
meant to reply specifically to >>87676258
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>>87676258
Not all these are adult, but here's a recommendation list.
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>>87676718
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>>87672889
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>>87670016
imo Treasure Planet was better, even though they were both good.

Its a shame they were both released at about the same time.
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>>87677182
>updated list
Check that shit out. I haven't looked at one of these lists since 2009.
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>>87669878
Why are you here? Go back to /r/cartoons or whatever
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>>87663939
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>>87673754
>sucker for horror sci-fi and this hit my Starcraft and Aliens fanboying just right
This so much.
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>>87671529
why are you samefagging so hard friend? No one needs to see you do this
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>>87676139
u wot
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>>87675916
I think Gadget should be still be a little bumbling, but ultimately competent at the end of the day
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>>87664286

Your le trole fedora was already out of orbit but this is some next level shit right there
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>>87677182
>Sita sings the Blues
Wait is that thing any good? I know Paley because of a video or two on YouTube but I never bothered with the movie
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>>87663939
Damn, you got me triggered
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>>87669749
>9
am I the only one who was disappointed by the movie? The hype as fuck trailer got me so excited, and it was just... meh.

Introduced me to Coheed and Cambria though so that's good.
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>>87664310
What a disappointment of a person.
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>>87680143
It's okay. Not amazing like some of the list, just kinda good. The most impressive thing about it is probably just the way it was made by so few people and through crowdfunding. The animation is really cheap and Nina's autobiographically segments throughout it fit well but kind of detract from the fun of Sita's more interesting story. Probably one of the least popular things on the list. But I happen to like it a lot. It's at least worth a watch to decide if you like it on your own.
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>>87669641
From the people who don't watch animated movies with mature themes and stories.
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>>87663939
Then why are YOU here?...
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>>87669147
What the fuck is mature about the writing in ATLA? It has some of the worst writing faux pas I've ever seen and relinquishes to actually explore its themes properly specifically because it's a kids' show.
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>>87670282
Shimoneta.
Not even kidding.
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Moonbeam city was alright. Got replaced by a better chamberlain hights though
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Here's one from Serbia.
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>>87682003
Eeeeee it's sci-fi.
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>>87675321
>>87675916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ly1vZewWeBA

Just make it down to earth, that means no edge, no dark, no weird gothic shit.
He's just a robocop with a normal dog and I guess a normal niece.
The first thing to making your show mature is not making the children more competent than the adults(or the adults more naive and stupid than the children)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iF9BMc3rVA0
http://kisscartoon.me/Cartoon/Roswell-Conspiracies-Aliens-Myths-Legends

Roswell Conspiracies was a better Men In Black than the actual MIB tv series.
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>>87671359
When they come through the walls...it scares me.
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>>87664521
>>87664543
>he doesn't know of the horseshoe effect
>he doesn't realize that, in other countries, the left are the primary drivers of censorship and oppression of ideas.

Both sides are just as bad, but don't let reality stop your self-righteous tirade about that ebul /pol/.
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>>87663978
Beowulf gets a pass from me because it actually managed to combine Beowulf's story into one cohesive Tale. Works a lot better as Gaimain's version than Grendel > Grendel's Mother >>>>>>>>> MOTHERFUCKING DRAGON OUT OF NOWHERE A HUNDRED YEARS LATER.

I think where they failed was the stunt casting (Jolie in particular).
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>>87672339
This image macro speaks to me. Much like that one Junji Ito horror manga, I believe this is my meme; it was made for me. Drrr.... Drrr.... Drrr...
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>>87682876
>Defending the worst board on 4chan

KYS.
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>>87682148
anybody remember any simular shows like this

I can´t find this one show that was about traveling to other dimensions

one time they were trapped in one were people with bird faces ruled and another time they had to fight raptors with a self made flamethrower made out of a lighter and hairspray

only thing I remember is that it ran during the 90s
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>>87671359
It was actually okay but Kingsglaive and especially Advent Children were all better.
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>>87671714
>>87673267
>>87673776
>all these movies were distributed by Studio Ghibli over in Japan under the Ghibli Museum Library
>check other stuff they had:
Wallace and Gromit
Shaun the Sheep
Tales of the Night
Kirikou and the Sorceress
The King and the Mockingbird
The Snow Queen (1957)

>the Sylvian Chomet movies were released in the US by Sony
>check other stuff they had:
Blue Jasmine
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon
House of Flying Daggers
The Red Turtle
Paprika
The Imaginarium of Doctor Parnassus
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>>87663930
I just watched Fire & Ice last night. I may have been high.

Serious question: why did this film have so many taint shots in it? I have never seen so many men's and women's perinea barely obscured by a loincloth or G-string. The camera seems to go out of its way to shoot people from a low angle right at the moment their legs start spreading.
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>>87677182
Where's HTTYD?
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>>87673823
If Bojack is one of the best adult cartoons of all time then anything below it must be pure shit considering how boring it is.
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>>87664378
>muh leftie boogeyman
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>>87663954
anime is for manchilds
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>>87671177
a wasted potential
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>>87685079

Enjoy your "mature" adult comedy cartoons then.
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>>87683170
They also release Animal Farm over in japan.
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>>87664291
I always wondered...there is any /co/ animated porn movies?

You know, like equivalent to hentai but in western, porn animated movies.

I think I've never seen one.
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>>87663930

Evangelicals.
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>>87664286
there is not a single human bean outside of our cesspool that recognizes that show. we all know damn well what you were talking about. stop tipping
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>>87686324
Actual porn? Probably exists as parodies, but very likely obscure and hard to find.

During the 70s and early 80s some people tried to do adult-oriented movies like Fritz the Cat, Down and Dirty Duck and Tarzoon: Shame of the Jungle/Jungle Burger.

Naturally, they never really caught on for most of the reasons already discussed.
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>>87682003
Underrated
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>>87673267
Fuck you nigger, The Illusionist was an awesome movie and comfy as fuck
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>>87686404
more likely mormon, as there taking over the US government
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>>87664445
>no such thing as waifu merchandise
>he's never seen a bodypillow
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>>87683417
Ah, you just gotta watch it from like episode six, I felt that way the first time I watched it as well.
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>>87683367

Its hot.
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adults dont like traditional animation, that's what happened
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>>87685079
Everyone knows that but who cares? I am manchild
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>>87663930
T H I C C c...hnnnnnggg
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>>87683410
The trash where it belongs. Move was fucking garbage.
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>>87687176
What about all that figurines? I have alot those
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>>87675232
There is none most of time anime is for teenagers. Manga is much better for that
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>>87674899
But 4chan is weeaboo place.
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>>87674899
/co/ has always been a denizen for furfags and bronies.
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>>87687374
Really, though? I've heard of someone being a tit man or an ass man or even a foot man, but never a taint man. Of all the different kinds of paraphilia on display on the internet, never have I heard of someone with a taint fetish.

>>87688683
She's a butterface.

Seriously, though, the main problem of Fire & Ice was choosing its two least interesting characters to be the main focus. I don't give a shit about the bland He-Man, or Teegra, who manages to get kidnapped no fewer than five times. I'm much more interested in Batman with an axe, Necron and his weird passive-aggressive relationship with his mother, the neanderthals living under the yoke of a couple of cro-magnon wizards, the local witch who lives on as a cool skeleton after death, and the inept King Gerald who reigns with his finger on a Dwarf Fortress-style Magma Apocalypse Button.
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>>87688737
(you)
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>>87689489
He's right you know.
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>>87689489
Literally the only reason youl ike it is because you want to fuck the stupid cat dragon or the obnoxious weaselly main kid. Get fucked.
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>>87664110
Is there any other stone age fantasy settings?
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>>87665509
WTF is that?
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Most of the time "adult" ends up meaning "depressing".
Other times, it means what 13 year olds consider adult: porn or gore.
I just want something fun or adventurous, where politics exist, villains have real motivation, and people aren't disney chaste..
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>>87665509
So Sausage starts it all by being cucked.
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>>87689961
Don't you know that "adult" means nihilistic and depressing, anon?
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>>87664063

Cartoons are so stylised, and so simple that they aren't attractive, there is a whole thread about it right now, they are also made for kids so the characters are kids themselves or think like kids, little kids.

This is why cartoons can't be waifus, no matter the count of origin, you aren't supp to be attracted to them, people that do, just have mental issues.

This is why the world hates "rule34" but not Hentai. Infact, rule34 is supposed to be humourous.
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>>87690026
>Cartoons are so stylised, and so simple that they aren't attractive
Except those that aren't overly stylized.
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>>87687240
Nah, I'm not the guy you're replying to but come on. Bojack is but it's not in no way great. It has a couple of good gags but Ugly American was way funnier and probably more "mature" without going "depression! depression! nihilism!" every two minutes. It also surprises me how much people relate to an asshole depressed millionaire has-been tv star on 4chin of all places.
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>>87689409
>Seriously, though, the main problem of Fire & Ice was choosing its two least interesting characters to be the main focus
I agree. They were just too generic to be interesting. Nobody in the movie really had personality, but the other characters were more interesting based on how they fit in the setting.

I also love the idea of the main villain just making a huge ice wall and literally bulldozing everything.
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>>87683367
Where's the crotch!?

There's supposed to be an Earth shattering crotch!?
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>>87686774
after urotsukidoji, I guess the U.S. adult cartoons were like "Fuck it, how we s'pose to compete with that".
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>>87689961
I've read the last Legend of Korra thread and it occurred to me that one of the main problems of the plot is that I don't doesn't have the balls to deal with it politics seriously. >>87687240
Nah, I'm not the guy you're replying to but come on. Bojack is but it's not in no way great. It has a couple of good gags but Ugly American was way funnier and probably more "mature" without going "depression! depression! nihilism!" every two minutes. It also surprises me how much people relate to an asshole depressed millionaire has-been tv star on 4chin of all places. First, third and fourth season's antagonists start with motivation that mirror real-live political movements, but instead of looking into the problems with those movement the show just turns them into mustache-twirling villains with a convoluted plot to fuck over the avatar and no moral grey areas.
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>>87664283
oh how WRONG you are.
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>>87663930
This happened.
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Okay let's get back to giving a working definition for "adult cartoons", and no, "cartoons whose target audience is adults" is not a working definition because it doesn't work, moron.

* porn
* political cartoons
* drama (stuff that's not comedy, action, or adventure, or the above)

What else?
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>"it's a family film, I swear"

- Ralph Bakshi
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>>87691433
I remember catching that film on Space back when I was like 12.

Amazing shit.
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/co/, you can enjoy cartoons while still accepting they're generally inferior to anime. It isn't hard and you'll look less like an autist if you just accept it.
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>>87690916
I'd say the distinguishing feature of adult cartoons is the lack of censorship.
The actual themes and content can be anything as long as it isn't hiding complicated or unpleasant themes for the sake of children.
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>>87691768
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>>87683083
That's a shitty opinion if i ever saw one.
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>>87683410
On the Dreamworks list. I know PoE is still on the other list, but its a special exception to the loose no Dreamworks/no Disney/no major current franchise rule that's kinda going on there, which is why HTTYD was moved off.
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>>87689914
A party.
A SAUSAGE party.
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>>87663930
>what happened to adult cartoons
>>>/aco/
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>>87663930

70s to 2006 was the golden era of animation then it went on a rapid decline

now everything is cheaply made with 3D or horribly animated by foreign studios
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>>87664091

Lol you're so clever and funny
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>>87681118

Damn, I love WwB

And I doubt I'd have loved it as much if it weren't animated.
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>>87665081
>K-on

>"Good"
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>>87665880
SOURCE NOW
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>>87664110
>A Ralph Bakshi/Frank Frazetta Production
Is it as great as it sounds?

I'm a huge fan of the first Conan the Barbarian film and Heavy Metal for reference.
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>>87697650
It's caveman fantasy.

So, yes.
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>>87669130
Which is the bottom-left image from?
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>>87663930
People got too triggered
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>>87698220
Little Nemo in Slumberland.
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>>87698302
thank you, sir!
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>>87663930
Cartoons for a general audience means a better chance to to get more viewers,
Which means more money.
Although it's a superhero flick, it's why it was a surprise deadpool did so well with its R rating
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>>87671412
>>87671291
I get pilots are typically rough around the edges but that was corny as all hell. I think it was all the lackluster voiceacting and "obviously written by a dorky, out of touch person" dialogue.
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>>87664304
>>87664408
You're wrong.

Otaku are a small % that buy overpriced BDs and fapping merch.

But their anime are not popular, late night anime are not popular.

For example Cowboy Bebop and stuff the west likes to jack off, that's not popular in Japan.

There's very few late night anime that become popular, Evangelion is one and on a smaller degree GitS. The most "modern" example is K-ON
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>>87695885
Well it is probably best of moeshit but then again /co/ only likes MANIME
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