/swco/ - Star Wars Comics And Cartoons

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>>87632884

rip based general

Stream when

>>87632954
I don't think we're getting a new episode this week.

>>87632954
Next week comrade. You're have to wait for those children who are beating the empire

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>>87632964
>>87632991

>waiting one more week

what is with these hiatuses? Is the Disney/Lucasfilm animation studio being held together by duct-tape and string that they have to delay episodes?

>>87633002
what kind of dolphin porn is this?

>>87633033
it's becuase they are still rendering the end of the season and they also want a certain episode to release with R1

>>87632964
Yeah, supposed to be the 19th based on the last recon.

>>87633130
Awesome, it'll be a birthday present for me!

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>tfw you will never go to the droid spa and order their "organic services"

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Should this new wave of SJW-tier writing and viewpoint coming from new-canon bother how much we enjoy Star Wars? I do enjoy the series, but I don't enjoy how they're going to be jamming their narrative down out throats. Albeit, I do like how canon is better treated than the previous EU where everything was a mess.

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>>87633242
I liked it when it was a mess, because it was our mess. It was goofy and silly and autistic, but thats what we all are

Star Wars just feels so limited now, so cramped and afraid to expand at all

>>87633242
Maybe you're so steeped in your own politics that they prevent you from enjoying things, so much so that they cause you to see things that aren't there.

Regardless, if you can't handle seeing or reading something that expresses an opinion that's different from your own, you're exactly the sort of zealot that Lucas warned us about.

>but muh cuck wendig
There's plenty of other good canon material out there.

>>87633337
I like you, anon

>>87633337
They're talking about the writer of Rogue One tweeting about how the movie is about women leaders leading a diverse group of people against a white male patriarchy.

>>87633418
I wonder how much of that was purposefully put into the film or what's just the writers trying to save face for losing the election. I wonder how the director and Disney feels.

>>87633337

>Regardless, if you can't handle seeing or reading something that expresses an opinion that's different from your own, you're exactly the sort of zealot that Lucas warned us about.

That's the thing. Different opinions are alright by me. Star Wars is definitely on the left-leaning side of entertainment and its one of my favorite series. But there's an air of moral militarism that permeates in the franchise recently.

>cuck wendig

Its not just that dude, though yes, there are far better entertainment materials in the new canon.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/11/11/media/star-wars-rogue-one-donald-trump/

>>87633418
>one guy on Twitter acting like a shithead
>part of the sjw narrative

Shut it down, the Goyim know.

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What ships in SW are sexy like the viper?

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>>87632884
>>87632943
Plo Koon was badass.

>>87633471
E-Wing

>>87633418
Death of the author and such. Let's see how the movie itself handles those themes before criticizing it.

>inb4 Mouseketeer
Nigger, I'm as far as you can get from a Disney Wars fan, I just want to think I'll get another enjoyable SW movie. Let's just hope for the best and prepare for the worst.

>>87633418
In defense of the writer, that wasn't what they said.

They compared the Empire to White Supremacists and called the Rebellion a diverse group lead by Strong Women.

While I don't agree with this idea, as the Empire is shown in Canon to be okay with any individual willing to serve so long as they are useful, the writing was trying to convey the marginalization they feel from the recent election and aftermath.

Now, their tweets are clearly wrong, but were meant to convey that the Empire is comparable to a group that subjects outsiders to it's will.

He just did it really distastefully.

>>87633418
I thought he said they were white supremacists. Where are we getting this other stuff?

Oh hell, not like it matters anyway. I mean I cannot fault someone for looking at the Empire and mostly seeing white dudes. Blame the guy who bought 50 billion cans of white armor paint. So the writer isn't aware of Rae Sloane or Thanoth? Hardly the end of the world.

Feels like people are trying to make this into a bigger fuss than it really is. There's got be something better to talk about. Shame we're stuck without an episode this weekend.

>>87633454
The Rebellion has always been pretty matriarchal, bro, what with Leia and Mothma.

>trying to save face for losing the election
They've been making this movie for 2-3 years and the election ended 3 days ago.

>>87633457
He's not entirely wrong. No, the Empire wasn't a white supremacist group, but it was certainly human supremacist. Honestly, very little of what he said was inaccurate.

>>87633571
He said white supremacists but had human there in parentheses to specify. Mas and Thrawn are not the norm, and Sheev himself may not be specialist, but the Empire at large is. Also they're space Nazis.

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>>87633471
Headhunters, the ultra sexy CW type.

>>87633585
>but it was certainly human supremacist
In old canon.

>>87633571
>So the writer isn't aware of Rae Sloane or Thanoth
You actually think these people look at supplementary material?

>Feels like people are trying to make this into a bigger fuss than it really is
Yep

>There's got be something better to talk about
So... What's everyone looking to get for the Holidays? (Star Wars related at least)

>>87633337
>
Maybe you're so steeped in your own politics that they prevent you from enjoying things, so much so that they cause you to see things that aren't there.

You haven't read Bloodlines have you.

>>87633613
Does anyone have an offical source to find those engine sound effects? The V-Wing and Jedi Interceptor have a very distinctive engine sound effect.

A while ago, some goons ripped Battlefront's entire sound data bank. Been using it for a mod on EaW.

>>87633667
>In old canon.
Name one canon Imperial besides Thrawn who wasn't a human.

>the inquisitors
They were force users, they had abilities that were useful to Sheev. The only reason they were in was because Sheev was using them.

>>87633703
>Name one canon Imperial besides Thrawn who wasn't a human.
Grand Inquisitor, SS, FB, SB

>>87633667
>In old canon.

Pablo said that the emperor isn't xenophobic, but the empire largely is.

>>87633585
>>87633632

I kind of wonder why the Empire has to be human supremacist now. Almost all of the galaxy is under their rule except for outer-rim territories, so wouldn't that mean that most of the imperial aligned worlds have tons of aliens on them? Why enact human supremacist laws in a very diverse culture?

>>87633703

Mas Amedda

>>87633585
I don't know about the Empire being human supremacist. Oh it would hardly be a huge shock for an evil empire, but I think it is more being stuck within the confines of the OT. They had so much trouble with the aliens they did have, there was no way they were going to be able to fit them into scenes with the stormtroopers. Plus George preferred the uniformity of their armor for intimidation purposes. Probably one of the reasons he envisioned them as a clone army back then.

If Rebels put a bunch of aliens everywhere working with the Empire it would look a lot weirder compared to the OT. We do know there are aliens working for the Empire, and not just the Inquisitors, but also people like Thrawn. We know there are alien worlds loyal to the Empire just as they were to the Republic. Was it weird that the Republic had so many aliens and yet everyone we saw in their military (who wasn't a clone) was human? It just seems to be the way it works out. In Star Wars there are a shit ton of humans in the galaxy. A sheer numbers game that tends to limit the visibility of aliens.

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>>87633719
Nigga read my post again, I think you missed something

>>87633737
>Why enact human supremacist laws in a very diverse culture?

Slave labor...?

>>87633688
>Bloodlines
Bloodlines did a great job showing how two individuals with separate political views can interact on friendly terms, even come to see some of how the others views can be right

>>87633741
>They had so much trouble with the aliens they did have
Well shit, I meant the effects not the actual in-universe problems with aliens.

>>87633775
That's how they treated the Wookies, so yeah.

>>87633775
From mostly all canon material, the Empire is terrible against Humans too. People were working themselves to death on Ciena and Thane's homeworld. Lothal got it's shit kicked in too. We had a short story of a stormtrooper commander killing human civilians to make a point.

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>>87633775

>slave labor

this walking human disaster was a slave too

>>87633823
Yeah, and he never went back and freed all the slaves on Tatooine like he said he would either.

>>87633703
>Name one canon Imperial besides Thrawn who wasn't a human.
Grand Vizier Mas Amedda
Sly Moore

>>87633737
>Mas Amedda
And tubby Orn Free Ta and all the other alien Senators. They're all Imperial. Doesn't mean they all agree with Sheev, naturally. Hell, every alien Imperial citizen like that dude running the bar on Lothal. The Stormtroopers are often dicks to them and they may not like the Empire but they're still Imperials.

>>87633853
The Clone Wars kinda got in the way of that...

>>87633857
>>87633703
On top of this, add in every non-human senator who worked with Palpatine

>>87633242

I hated TFA for obvious reasons and it felt visually strange to me(seeing TIEs and Falcon with modern CGI was really weird for some reason) and Rogue One looks incredibly boring and shows that how much of a modern Disney movie it is with its token Chinese characters.

But I like Rebels a lot and Im optimistic about the 8th movie.

>>87633857
I kinda figured Umbarans were just albinos.

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>>87633865
>Orn Free Ta
That loser lost his re-election. Low energy.

Yuuge Bigley is Ryloth's new Senator.

>>87633867
He never went back to do it as Vader either.

>>87633888
Nope

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Umbaran

>>87633919

Anakin died on Mustafar, Darth Vader is someone else.

...from a certain point of view.

>>87633857
Sly Moore hasn't been confirmed yet surprisingly

Remember that the Republic military was overwhelmingly human too. The clones are easy so discount them. That still leaves those people in the Republic ship who brought Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan to Naboo. All the Senator Guards, too. Every non-clone officer like Admiral Kilian...Some other human guy I cannot recall the name of who died in his first appearance. Tarkin, naturally.

I wouldn't call the Republic overwhelming human centrist, but for whatever reason their military tends to be almost all human. I'm having trouble thinking of any non-humans who weren't Jedi...

>>87633915
Orn Free Ta was still part of the Empire. Shows up in Lords of the Sith. He kind of disappears after Cham's forces take down that Star Destroyer and Sheev just assumes his fat ass managed to survive.

It should be noted that he was in mortal terror of the Emperor and Vader.

>>87633986
TCW missed it's chance to show aliens in the republic army honestly.

>>87633613
>Hey sheev, ever think of putting in some railings? I mean we are rain slicked metal hundreds of stories up and this wind man, you just never know

>>87633981

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sly_Moore

>>87633981
She was literally with Palpatine when he transformed the Republic into the Empire. She's Imperial.

>>87634014
There was probably intent behind that. Lots of TCW and the prequels were about the slow transition/descent into the Empire.

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>>87633986

>I'm having trouble thinking of any non-humans who weren't Jedi...

And with good reason.

>>87634024
Nah I mean we haven't seen her at all in stories. Mas has pretty much become a cornerstone.

>>87634011
>legitimate reply to joke post
Anon...

>>87634042
I wonder if Sheevy-P is still hitting that in Canon

>>87633781
Only got a 1/4 of the way through the book until I couldn't stand the author trying to push her SJW agenda by making everyone gay or trans, when it had absolutely nothing to do with the story except to simply point out that there are lgbt people in the Star Wars universe. Fuck that shit.

>>87634014
True, but budget constraints forced them to use clones for ship staff too.

We did get a few new faces. Admiral Coburn. I cannot believe I forgot to mention Yularen earlier. Still can't remember the name of that one guy who showed up and then died. Felt like a bit of a waste of a new model, really.

>>87634097
Anon I think you read the wrong book

>>87634097
You seriously dropped a good book over something as stupid as that?

Shit nigga, you sound as thin-skinned as a SJW

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>>87634075
I thought it worth mentioning that Orn Free Ta MIGHT be dead. To my knowledge he hasn't been mentioned since Lords of the Sith. He hasn't been mentioned at all in Rebels, for instance, when you'd think pointing out they have a Senator who isn't helping ease the suffering of the people would be worth mentioning.

>>87634194
I wonder if he'll pop up in Rebels?

>>87634252
I doubt it, considering we are getting close to ANH and the dissolving of the Senate.

>>87634115

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Dao

Here ya go.

>>87634252
I would like a bit more action from the Imperial Senate. I'm surprised people don't do more to try to convince them to help curb the violence of the Empire. It obviously won't work, but nobody suggests trying.

>>87634252
>Dispatched to Bakurua to discover the root of a planet wide food shortage, the rebels discover Orn Fre Ta, who has ballooned to be the size of the republic senate building and is being fed by a constant unending train of space dump trucks

>>87634268
That's the perfect time to re-introduce Senators to see how they are coping with nearing-two decades of Empire rule. Then show their reactions to Sheev committing suicide by shutting down the Senate.

Since it's known to Sheev that Mothma is the leader of the Rebellion, could he know that Bail is helping too? Would this whole mess of Mothma and Bail's team causing Sheev's greatest weapon be the reason he shuts down the Senate? We never did get a reason for it.

>>87634291
I know there's some in Rogue One, but Rebels only has Bail so far. There was one in the Rebels UK comics though.

>>87634278
That Ryloth campaign got nasty. I don't think we saw anything else from them afterward, did we? They managed to gain supplies for the people, Ima-Gun Di dun died, and that was pretty much it.

>>87634313

>Would this whole mess of Mothma and Bail's team causing Sheev's greatest weapon be the reason he shuts down the Senate?

Probably, which if in Rogue One that Mothma is exposed to being a rebel leader, giving a proper narrative for Sheev to relieve the Senate indefinitely.

>>87634340

Ima-Gun Di's episode was a prequel to the Ryloth arc in season one.

>>87634313
>We never did get a reason for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnNSnJbjdws

because he doesn't need it any more. listen to Tarkin.

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/swco/ how do I into Star Wars fashion that's not graphic tees and without looking like an autist? The hip thing to do now seems to be wearing jackets and scarves.

>>87634302
Andrew Dobson please leave

>>87634413
He needs a (fake) reason to tell the Senators and the public about it. His Imperial-internal memo doesn't need a real reason other than "I'm the boss and I said so."

>>87634377
>Ima-Gun Di's episode was a prequel to the Ryloth arc in season one.
No it isn't, because he was working with Cham. Cham only joined during the episodes we saw with Mace getting involved.

>>87634521

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Battle_of_Ryloth#Prelude

>The Separatist ground forces then attacked the Republic garrison, which was under the command of Jedi General Ima-Gun Di and Clone Captain Keeli. The Republic troops received help from the Twi'lek resistance forces under Cham Syndulla.

>>87634481
Why be hip when you could innovate your own style?

>>87634521
It is according to the timeline.

>the neverending bait cycle of PT opinions isn't deleted but a Star Wars writer talking about Star Wars is
wew

>>87634572
People still cite The Wook as proof of anything canon? Amazing.

Why would Orn Free Ta have needed to mention Cham and they talked about him as an outlaw who had previously been fighting the Republic or at least Republic Senator of Ryloth rather than someone who had previously worked with the Republic and the Jedi?

>>87634591
Don't get me wrong, I actually like it this way. This means that after they chased off the CIS and captured Tambor the war didn't return, as it had previously done with places like Geonosis.

It just doesn't seem to mesh well with the previous episodes and how Cham was first introduced to us. later season I guess they decided to change things up. It's not necessarily canon breaking, but it is pretty awkward to try to match them up that way.

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>>87633471
A-Wing.

Look at this sexy motherfucker.

Jedi Starfighter is good too, I love that sexy hyperspace ring addon.

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>>87633471
Another kind of Viper?

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>>87634614

It kind of became a /pol/ related topic. And /pol/ is a pathway to many viewpoints some consider to be unnatural.

OC incoming

>>87634653

Its pretty much one of the only good sources readily available that is in-depth about SW canon. Otherwise we'd have to point it out in books or other unreliable sources.

Star Wars Databank on the starwars.com website is pretty good though.

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>>87634377
>>87634521
http://www.starwars.com/news/star-wars-the-clone-wars-chronological-episodeorder

1 216 Cat and Mouse
2 116 Hidden Enemy
T The Clone Wars theatrical release
3 301 Clone Cadets
4 303 Supply Lines <--------------------------------
5 101 Ambush
6 102 Rising Malevolence
7 103 Shadow of Malevolence
8 104 Destroy Malevolence
9 105 Rookies
10 106 Downfall of a Droid
11 107 Duel of the Droids
12 108 Bombad Jedi
13 109 Cloak of Darkness
14 110 Lair of Grievous
15 111 Dooku Captured
16 112 The Gungan General
17 113 Jedi Crash
18 114 Defenders of Peace
19 115 Trespass
20 117 Blue Shadow Virus
21 118 Mystery of a Thousand Moons
22 119 Storm over Ryloth <--------------------------------
23 120 Innocents of Ryloth
24 121 Liberty on Ryloth

>>87634732
Tell people the best way to get canon: marathon the entire series all over again!

What? Any excuse is a good excuse.

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>>87634489
I thought it was for you my bad. I`d love to see a any scene with the modern senate but I don't see a narrative responsibility to show it in rogue one. i hope im wrong tho

>>87634776
It's already been talked about. The problem, as I see it, is there is a bit of a disconnect. Cham, when talking with Mace, never seems like he worked with any Jedi or the Republic Army. There's nothing that hints that he fought along side them, then they were overwhelmed so he claimed the Republic had failed and abandoned them, then the forces on the planet died so the twi'leks could escape and then the Republic dropped food crates for them.

Gobi flat out tells them that Cham feels betrayed but he'll eventually get over it, and yet none of that is even hinted at earlier. The obvious reason of course is because this was a later episode, however because of that you think they could have made it sync up better.

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>>87634867

>>87634874
Well it doesn't matter how you see it or what you think. Supply Lines canonically occurred prior to the Ryloth episodes

>>87634867
>>87634892

Watching this in theatres was so satisfying.

But I can't believe its been eleven years since it showed.

>>87633497
best jedi master
too bad they retconned him having an orange saber

>>87634489
I prefer the old theory that the way Sheev "disbanded" the Senate was locking the door and then cutting loose on them with lighting and hurling around senate pods. Finally working out more than two decades of frustration of having them get in the way of his Unlimited Power.

Funny thing is when I first saw this joke someone freaked out because, gosh, the Emperor can't let anyone know he's a Sith! For some reason that guy thought there would be survivors. I just assume Sheev covered his ass by saying that they ordered some bad nerf at the senate commissary and sadly there were no survivors.

Good thing Mom Mothma was chilling with Rogue One. And so lucky Bail was safe on Alderaan. Wait, what's that shadow overhead? Are we having an eclipse already?

>>87633823
>That Ben/Sebulba poster on his wall made it into the propaganda book
it's the little things

>>87634913
Anon, we're still free to point out things that don't quite work with the series. That's the whole point of having any of these discussions, otherwise every thread for every show here would just be a post that says, "It is what it is" and who else can say otherwise?

>>87634944
I wish I could see it in theaters again knowing what I know now and having a more adult-oriented mindset going in, opposed to a childish one back when it released. Watching it on DVD just doesn't have the same feel.

>>87634732
"Everything Political Is /pol/" is just as bad as "Everything Political is essjaydubyas"
i just wanted to laugh at the dumbass writing a movie mayne

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>>87635062

>i just wanted to laugh at the dumbass writing a movie mayne

Where do you think we are?

>>87634986
I'm not saying you can't discuss it but at the end of the day there is Lucasfilm Canon and you can't change it.

You weren't just discussing it anyways. You were outright attempting to deny what is canon.

>>87635105
I'm surprised anyone knows who the heck he even is without being told first.

>>87635138
Did you somehow stroke out and miss the actual discussion? That's on you, pal, but it was most certainly there.

>>87635173
I didn't say there wasn't a discussion spawned, but you certainly went in denying canon.

Watching The Searchers.

Imagining Sandpeople in place of the Comanche attacking the homestead for some dumb reason

>>87635253
God damn, this feels like Autism Awareness Day instead of Veterans Day.

Someone said something wrong, it got corrected, we discussed it, then you're still pissing about someone being wrong. Like how dare they do such a thing. It happens. Get over it and next time try joining the conversation instead of whining like a bitch.

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>>87635265
Tusken Raiders like to raid shit. It's in the name.

But it's also racist. We should probably petition the NFL to change the name.

>>87633336
This. It's organised but the stories rarely have the heart and reach the same heights that some of the EU's books did. Seems the main reason a lot of fans buy the books now is not for the enjoyment or the story, but to see how it connects to the rest of the canon and then move onto the next. It feels very hollow at times. If you can only enjoy things that are canon then I feel bad for you.

>>87634097
The only thing I can think of it mentioning Seastriker having mothers one time in passing and never being brought up again.
Hell it might not even be that they are lesbians but maybe his planet has a raised by the tribe mentality and all the elder women of his town were considered his 'mother'. They did seem pretty hippie-dippy.

>>87635379
I think the whole "movies every year" plan really puts the potential range of the books back a bit. Where the books could have done a multi-book saga at some point (like Aftermath but more, and not specifically crafted for a movie after it), they now have to settle for the movies potentially taking that plot for themselves instead.

While we are waiting for the whole 'movie every year' thing to settle in, liking the books just because they are canon isn't that bad of a situation. Once there's more freedom for the books, then it would be an issue.

>>87635442
Mystery Box and shorter timelines for the Sequel Trilogy don't really help either. Like Episode 8 starts immediately after 7, so there isn't much room to do stuff in-between.

I'm hoping they focus on just doing Anthology stuff for a few years after Episode 9 before doing another big trilogy (probably an Old Republic reboot).

>>87635379
>If you can only enjoy things that are canon then I feel bad for you.
I see people mention this a lot, but I have never met anybody who actually shares this sentiment. Chances are, if you are reading the Canon books, you probably read some of the EU too.

It's really unfair to judge all of the Canon books and its readers like that, there are plenty of really enjoyable stories in Canon, and we're only 3 years in.

Yes it's true the books are currently mostly supplementary, because we're getting so many movies. But some pretty important stuff HAS been in the books too.

And if you compare with the EU, most of the EU was like this too. Heir to the Empire and the likes were not even close to being the majority of the EU.

>>87634331
She was killed in the first Star Wars Annual

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>>87633337
That's just what happens, it's been handed to the fans. Maybe the wrong kind of fans but it's what Lucas wanted to do when he sold it and nothing can change that now. It's a shame all artists do now is use their platform to preach their personal politics all the time, especially Marvel comics. But what can ya do?

Times change, Lucasfilm is teeming with so called progressive millennials under K.Kennedy who's probably a devout feminist herself, this has been the way since Lucas left. And the more moderate older gen that have stuck around are the only beacons of talent left like Filoni. So at least he's training an apprentice guys!

>>87635616
Yeah, that was kind of a bummer. Worse was that whole prison arc picking up the character of the spy. It was so damn obvious who he was, which, okay, isn't the worst thing in the world, but then they didn't really do anything interesting with that arc. Maybe Sana and Aphra having a past together? Or seeing some IG-RM droids (or was it a variant?) Ah well parts of the main comic have been really hit and miss.

>>87635345
Insulting me doesn't make you more right anon. Just admit you were wrong and that you denied canon initially and we can move on. You're the only one whining.

>>87635653
Artists have always done that.

>>87633454
Kathleen is probably feeling salty, they released a video of her and Daisy promoting women in NASA a day after the election result. Felt a bit coincidental.

>>87635710
Well yeah NASA is probably going to collapse now

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>>87635751
>NASA
>collapsing under a Republican president

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>>87635692

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>>87635751
NASA has been neglected for the last 8 years already, surely it won't get worse?

>>87635773
Gotta use the funds for more clones, so no more funding for exploring the unknown regions!

>>87635807
Poe got caught snorting blue spice with Leia or what?

>>87635807
Trump will have a moon base within 4 years. Believe me.

Does Starwars have any good Last Stand monuments?

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Go buy the good Star Wars vidya, not the EA shit.

https://www.gog.com/promo/20161110_fall_sale_star_wars_byob

>>87635830
Trump will be lucky to have his voter base not turn on him after 4 years

>>87635696
Well yeah, but it's been becoming increasingly more vehement in the last couple of years and it reads as very heavy handed when it's being tackled by mediocre tumblr writers, which Marvel have an abundance of unfortunately.

>>87635751
Vice President Race Bannon loves spehs almost as much as shocking gays into not loving cock, NASA's going places.

>>87635830
He'd probably make it NASA's top priority to build a Hotel Resort on Mars and make the Martians pay for it :')

>>87635710
I'm still having trouble figuring out if that's Daisy in that Geico commercial. It looks like her for some reason.

>>87635908
How about Mike "Nuclear Homocaust" Pence?

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>>87635878
>>87635908
>>87635924
It's impossible to escape election talk even here. Dammit.

>>87635876
So many good choices. How well do these run?

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>>87635692
What are you going to do if he doesn't, anon? Cry some more or man up and hire a bounty hunter to track him down. Come on, princess, I know the perfect guy.

>>87635957
Like I said I don't really like authors trying to make heavy handed political allegories in SW. None of the Nucanon authors seem to bed good at it

.It was a light reference, I honestly couldn't care desu. I'm British anyway & pretty impartial to it all.

>>87634723
Sexy as hell, and a little exotic. I hope it shows up in the hands of pirates again.

I would also like Tyber Zahn to return to canon, if only because his name is pretty cool

>>87635957
How high do you think Sheev's midi-chlorian count is?

>>87636020
It was just a dude on twitter. Who cares about twitter, it's where brain cells go to die in 140 characters or less.

I could care less about his politics as long as he did his job on the movie.

>>87635933
It's not her, she has one of those faces though. Personally I find her very plain looking, she's no Natalie Portman or Keira Knightley, just kind of ehh.

But I wouldn't say she's that recognisable desu.

>>87636042
Fortunately we never found out about the ranking system. I'm sure the point about Anakin's isn't that he's super powerful because he sure as hell wasn't for most of his early career. I thought it was more an indication of him being unusual since Qui-Gon was convinced he was a vergence in the force. If the Force was his daddy I suppose having an unusually high midi-chlorian count would be a damn good indicator.

>>87636020
Lucas based the whole PT on heavy handed political allegories.

>>87636103
The point also may have been "Anakin is incredibly powerful, but he has no idea how to harness it properly so he gets taken advantage of by people who do know"

>>87636020
>>87636108
The PT was part of teh Anti-Bush and post-9/11 movement in film.

The OT was a parallel to the Ruskies and Nazis.

Star Wars has always had political allegories.

>>87636058
I wasn't talking about the twitter, I don't even know what that's about. Just saying in general it seems to be a trend that hopefully won't catch on too much.

I agree though, people just need to have professionalism and produce good work instead of making it about them. Obviously Star Wars isn't the authors. If it was Lucas and his politics I'd be more understanding him being the creator and all.

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>>87636103
Anakin had the most potential out of all the force users in his era, potentially of all time.

He just never made it to the point where he could reach his fullest potential because he was impatient.

>>87636134
The Umbara arc is pretty much a condensed Vietnam War as well. Also all those political episodes in TCW.

>>87636146
Sorry, I thought this was the thread still obsessing over that tweet from the Rogue One writer.

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>>87636163
>its a padme episode

>>87635967
They all run just fine on modern systems.

>>87636127
Could have been though honestly I find that odd. I mean are people born with an upper limit? I know Force Sensitives typically attract them so you think it would be a cumulative effect as you get older.

They compare him to Yoda so I like to think the comparison is about the live giving midi-chlorians would naturally be high in a species that lives up to 900. But even then 900 years is a long time to accumulate midi-chlorians. Like dust.

>>87636179
Fuck you. I enjoyed some of those episodes.

>>87636134
Yeah but Lucas did it well in my opinion. A lot of authors like Wendig or Marvel writers don't and it's just awful.

I'd only trust seasoned authors like Zahn & Luceno to handle political stuff nowadays.

>>87636209
Claudia Grey did great with Bloodline.

>>87636159
It's an old debate, and who the hell knows if it was still true even before Lucas left. He gave an interview to Rolling Stones about it and mentioned that what happened to Anakin on Mustafar limited him.

Personally the impression I got from later TCW is that Anakin's injuries on Mustafar didn't mean shit to his true potential. It's not like losing his limbs and skins worth of midi-chlorians should dampen that too much. Towards the end Lucas was knocking more towards spiritualism again. I think what screwed Vader over ultimately, besides Sheev being very careful not to make his Apprentice so powerful he wakes up one day with a pillow over his face, is Anakin was relying on the Dark Side.

Nu Canon seems to be running in that direction when we get some of Vader's psychology in Lords of the Sith. Especially early on when Vader is musing about how wrong Yoda is in regards to the strength of anger.

I guess it is a moot point anyway with Lucas gone. With Star Wars fans have a huge tendency to demand canon (at least fans at our level) rather than leave anything open to interpretation. Maybe this is something to bring up to Pablo, maybe not...

>>87636205
The Jar Jar episodes were more tolerable, padme episodes are a fucking chore to watch with her constantly lecturing people on the "correct viewpoint"

>muh diplomacy
>muh peace

Yeah, I'm sure diplomacy with Dooku and Grievous is incredibly likely

>>87636233
Some people found it boring. I read it and I can sort of see what they mean but I don't agree since ultimately I found the novel worth the experience. It will be interesting to see what, if anything, they do in Episode VIII. The Senate is gone, but do Centrists and Populists remain? Will Leia be forced to try to pull the Republic back together again?

>>87633613

Is Coruscant weather polluted?

How does no one worry about Anakin getting an infection from exposure to the rain?

>>87635653
>>87635880
You must be new to this franchise then. We had straight up raping SS style Imperial officers 15 years ago in the EU. Almost every Imperial book made allusions to Nazi Germany or the holocaust. NONE of this is new. I'm tired of people thinking it is

>>87636318
Bacta, man. It does a body good.

>>87636283
>Anakin was relying on the Dark Side
I agree completely.

>>87636286
I mean, that's fine, you're welcome to your own opinion, but I liked how she contined to fight for what she believed was right.

>>87636306
I listened to the Audiobook, so I found it less boring. I also wonder what is going on in the Political world of Star Wars now. It's got to be hell.

>>87636134
>The OT was a parallel to the Ruskies and Nazis.
No, it was a parallel to the United States under the Nixon administration; Lucas admitted this.

>>87636163
>The Umbara arc is pretty much a condensed Vietnam War as well
>not understanding the Imperial Japan allegory especially with nuclear weapons in Umbara
Come on, anon

>>87636334
One can do that without being a preachy cunt

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>>87636205
Heroes on Both Sides and the S6 Clovis arc was peak Padme for me desu.

Shame Filoni never got to make the arc about heavily pregnant Padme hiring Ahsoka as a bodyguard while she brought together the separatists single-handed to end the war during the outer rim sieges only for Palpatine to be kidnapped before they could sign the peace treaty.

She also had an arc with Anakin planned with her meeting Tikkes who hates Palps and it sows the seeds for the delegation of 2000 and her and Anakin have a disagreement over Palps again. They would've gone to Mon Cala again to meet Lee Char again.

That was a real thing btw, planned for season 8.

>>87636334
I like how Ahsoka got involved in one of Padme's quests so she could see how the other half lived. Hell, it was nice just to see what the CIS structure was like outside of Gunray and the boys scheming with Dooku.

>>87636283
>With Star Wars fans have a huge tendency to demand canon (at least fans at our level) rather than leave anything open to interpretation.
I don't mind many things in Star Wars being defined, but some fans take it too far and look for minutiae in most things that need no explanation, and then blow it out of proportion when there is no answer. They forget that even when the franchise is host to a bunch of small details, some things are just fine the way they are without intricate explanation. A lot of these people also let it override common sense when it comes to new material, requiring things that are obvious to be documented or else they will never accept something otherwise.

Sorry for pivoting from the topic, but it just bothers me that people forgo the story and a 10 seconds of critical thinking afterwards or else they continue to willingly cry inaccuracy.

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>>87636412
Separatist Parliament was neat. Shame we never saw more of Raxus considering it was the Separatist hub during the war. Reading about it in Dark Disciple doesn't do it justice.

>>87636283
Lucas made it very clear Anakin would never reach his full potential. He will always be 80% the power of Palpatine. The LSG have been fulfilling this. While they have made Vader extraordinarily powerful, he's nowhere near Palpatine's strength. They haven't been shy to hide Vader is fearful of his master as well.

>>87636286
>I'm sure diplomacy with Dooku and Grievous is incredibly likely
You're forgetting she nearly succeeded but did not know of Dooku and Sidiou's plans. The Separatist council felt the same way the Republic senate did about the war. It was something no one wanted but happened due to the Sith manipulating both sides that no one was aware about. Padme was really the only sane person in Star Wars. It's a shame no one took her seriously.

>>87636433
You had a fair point and I think you made it well. I don't mind the details either, I suppose, I do think they're nice and I like that they keep open lines of communication with the fans. Maybe I think we just ultimately take our canon WAY too seriously sometimes. These threads had, and maybe still do, an impression as being completely canon obsessed. People felt they couldn't discuss any of the old EU material. At the same time, yeah, we did have people who were mixing EU material with Nu Canon, which isn't always a bad thing but the two really aren't meant to intermingle these days.

>>87636478
Does Raxus being canon make Raxus Prime canon? The junkyard world?

>>87636489
Didn't Padme know Dooku was a Sith lord?

If your enemy is led by a Sith lord, diplomacy isnt really an option. Sure she got "close" but they were one step ahead of her and she got her friend killed because of it

>no soft warm twi'lek waifu to hold and cuddle at night with
>ywn hold a qt twi'leks soft hands

>>87636489
>They haven't been shy to hide Vader is fearful of his master as well.
I don't believe fearful is the right word at all. Cautious, perhaps. Calculating enough to know to wait for the right time more like it. He's definitely learned from the rash, even insane idea he was sputtering to Padme about killing the Chancellor and they could take over together. Because the Republic/Empire would be entirely happy to accept a known Jedi who murders their beloved Palpatine and then declares himself leader by right of stabbies.

>>87636517
She was trusting in the people, not Dooku. She was hoping to undercut his base. He only has power because they gave it to him. If she can convince them to head towards peace instead she felt he would lose his grip on the CIS.

Now obviously a Sith Lord isn't going to take that lying down, and he was more than happy to murder anyone he wanted to keep things going as he saw fit. But at the same time it isn't in Padme's character to give up on people. She would feel obligated to try harder to save them because he is a Sith Lord.

>>87636478
It's in the same system as Raxus in canon I think. I assume given Raxus Prime was a separatist world in legends. My headcanon is that the reason Raxus isn't so heavily industrialised like Coruscant despite being a pivotal world is because it's all outsourced to the junk planet nearby. Smart seppies.

>>87635908

We'll probably get to Mars within the next 8 years with Russia

Hey, I can dream

Fuck MemeX

>>87636489
>Lucas made it very clear Anakin would never reach his full potential. He will always be 80% the power of Palpatine.
Actually you know what he showed? The moment Anakin turned back to the Light Side he had the strength to overpower Sidious and kill him. It cost him his life doing so, but then that was the nature of the sacrifice that made him worthy of becoming a ghost.

During the tests by the Force Priestesses, co-opted by Sidious, sacrificing himself to destroy the Emperor was ultimately what made Yoda worthy to learn the secret.

>>87636412
I also really liked that episode.

>>87636392
>Shame Filoni never got to make the arc about heavily pregnant Padme hiring Ahsoka as a bodyguard
Holy Shit. I want this.

>>87636376
>No, it was a parallel to the United States under the Nixon administration; Lucas admitted this.
Source?

>>87636605
Found the interview from celebration EU II

>>Filoni talked about one particularly fascinating story arc that was discussed for the series but never came to be. Dave Filoni was throwing around a story idea for an arc of episodes that would see Padme get in on the action, as he felt she had done a lot of diplomatic episodes for a while. The idea was that Padme was negotiating with the Separatists, and in order to prove herself she had to complete a series of physical challenges. She would take Ahsoka with her to compete in these games, but those she was negotiating with would insist she compete personally. The idea was that she would win the competition, prove herself, and sign a treaty to end the war – but just as she is signing, General Grievous is invading Coruscant to kidnap Palpatine and the events of Revenge of the Sith commence. Later on Filoni briefly mentioned that he had hoped the final episodes of the series could have actually overlapped with the events of Revenge of the Sith.

>>This would have been an incredible idea, as it would have added so much to Padme’s character who didn’t get a great deal to do in Revenge of the Sith unfortunately. The episodes didn’t come to pass unfortunately, there were concerns that there is a limit to how much physical activity Padme could do whilst pregnant. Ultimately George Lucas was involved in the final decision that this story arc wouldn’t come to pass.

>>87636597
>Emperor
Well, not the Emperor at the time, just the number one Sith d-bag.

That was an interesting vision. Sith ritual "sorcery" but the way Anakin beheaded Dooku, shit, the Force had to have left its mark on events. Showing glimpses of the future to come.

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>>87636659
desu this arc sounds like a porno plot
>>Heavily pregnant Padme
>>Ex-Jedi Bodyguard Ahsoka
>>Padme going through "Physical Trials" for the seps.
>> Sheev gets kidnapped ruining everything.

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>>87636478
I'm glad we at least got what we did.

>>87636508
Anon, its been over 2 years since Legends was officially declared. You have no excuse to not know how this works.

But to answer your question, no.

Which canon comic (released as tpb) has the best art? I want to blind buy one

>>87636751
Fuck my shit UP, I forgot how beautiful TCW looked.

>>87636763
Kanan the Last Padawan had damn good art, but so did Obi-Wan and Anakin. Not sure if they're TPB or not, someone else can field that one.

>>87636751
I could've sworn I saw Raxus Prime being mentioned in canon somewhere. It'd make sense the CIS having an industrial world so close by considering how healthy Raxus looks next to coruscant.

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>>87636286
>the Jar Jar episodes were more tolerable
Now, let's not get crazy here anon

>>87636839
Not that anon, but I'll actually rewatch Jar Jar episodes. I always skip Padme episodes though.

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>>87636839
Mace and Jar Jar's Bombad Adventures were fun, you can't prove me wrong.

>>87636839
>not liking bombad jedi or the indiana jones episodes

>>87636524
>even insane idea he was sputtering to Padme about killing the Chancellor and they could take over together.
He literally gives Luke the same speech. Almost word for word.

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>>87636856
>Skipping the Clovis beatdown
You're only punishing yourself, it's a great arc.

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>>87636860
Well you got me there, it was one of the few eps where we got force negro master

You have to be really insane to find whiny murderer teenager anakin attractive

>>87636928
If you don't think Anakin was hot, you've got something wrong with you anon.

Unless you don't like men.

>>87636928
It's all about the smile anon

>>87636928
Some people look at just the physical form and ignore the other stuff, anon.

I would know, I'm shallow enough to do it all the time.

>>87636915
I've seen them all. And that arc is the only worth watching for that scene and based Embo.

>>87636942
"I will even have the power to stop people from dying"

Belongs in a mental institution imo

>>87636962
In a world of Space Wizards and Robots... that doesn't seem too far from possibility

>>87636928
>not knowing about some of the worst serial killers
Not always are they unattractive looking crazies

>>87636901
And yet the circumstances were totally different, anon. That's the key. Killing the Chancellor as a known Jedi wasn't going to get him very far. Being Vader, known as the Emperor's right hand, already with huge power in the military since he is back in more or less Tarkin's position now that Tagge is dead again. Yes, they could have ruled as father and son far better than Jedi assassin who knocked up a Senator would have been welcomed with open arms right after Palpatine has this huge surge of support at the end of the war.

Let's put it this way. If Emperor Palpatine had died due to natural causes or happenstance Vader was already poised in a great position to step into power. Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker was NOT at the end of the Clone Wars.

>>87636962
>I will even have the power to stop people from dying
I actually forgot how early Lucas planted the Plagueis/Padme death seeds.

wow

>>87636928
Padme seems to have a running theme of supporting lost causes

>>87636915
Gotta love those "oh right, he has a robot hand" moments.

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>>87636928
>not finding Anakin sexy as fuck

>>87637006
Hell, I'm not sure the clones were programmed to obey Anakin if Sidious died. Not quite sure how Order 66 deals with Anakin, though. At least they knew he was a Jedi and didn't immediately murder him so clearly the programming makes some allowances for him.

>>87636995
>>87637021
Roasties am I right?

>>87637012
Yeah 1 film before whoa

>>87637030
Pic of jedi temple shooter means that?

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>>87636954
>Not liking the invasion of Scipio
>Not liking the most perfect execution of a Sheev scheme ever.
You gotta open your eyes anon.

>>87637062
>Roasties
tourist please

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>>87637110

>>87637110
>>87637092
Yeah, as great as those scenes are, I'm far too bored by the rest of Padme's droning.

>>87637092
I wish we'd seen more Republic losses in TCW. The way Grievous fought his battles was too one-sided.

>>87636928
>>87636942
Well, he was pretty hot on Mustafar

>>87637006
>Killing the Chancellor as a known Jedi wasn't going to get him very far.
He wasn't planning on killing Sidious that very moment. He was talking like a Sith in terms that eventually he would overthrown him. Anakin also isn't stupid. He wouldn't have just executed Palpatine. He most likely would have thought of a plan to remove Sidious, especially if Padme was by his side.

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>>87637160
The way he falls reminds me of Boromir.

>>87637127
She really is the worst character, even Satine's droning was more tolerable as she was presented as being an unreasonable extremist most of the time. But Padme is not only annoying, the show beats you over the head with her because she is "right", even when she isnt

>>87637123
Why are there Vulture droids on the deck just watching the battle?

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>>87637152
You could even say he was... on fire

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>>87637179
I like how he respects the droids, though.

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>>87637152

>>87637157
Did we both watch the same movie? Anakin was clearly not thinking straight on Mustafar by any stretch of the imagination. Never in any of that did it sound like he was going to play a long con game and wasn't just going full retard because he couldn't handle the influence of the Dark Side yet.

>>87637196
They're on break

>>87637286
Were the droids unionized?

>>87637316
Techno Unionized, yes

>>87637338
top keke

>>87633771
I always assumed black was an officer thing in the empire, like 9officer combat armor would be black storm trooper armor with less plates and more communication gear.

>>87637276
Anakin claimed the Jedi were evil after he was the one who stabbed a bunch of kids in the face, and this was after trying to choke to death his very pregnant wife who was his only reason to fall to the dark side in the first place.

He was completely drunk on the Dark Side. I have the sense that something like 7 out of 10 people who fall to the Dark Side get so full of themselves they end up getting killed pretty quickly. If you're very lucky you end up learning how to ride the madness like Sheev or Dooku. Vader learned how to do it, but Anakin was a complete mess.

I'd just like to remind everyone that the prequel movies are the weakest of the Star Wars movies, just look at the ratings!

The Phantom Menace : five point five
Attack of the Clones: six point two
Revenge of the Sith: seven
A New Hope: eight point five
Empire Strikes Back: eight point two
Return of the Jedi : seven point two
The Force Awakens: eight point one

>>87638088
But most people have shit taste.
I'd reverse those ratings, myself.

>>87638173
what's the reverse of an 8.1?

>>87638213
pi divided by the inverse of pi multiplied by the co-efficient of pi to the power of 9 minus 6000

>>87638088
I'm going to ask you to stop spamming this every thread. You keep this up, you'll be banned.

>>87638227
does anyone actually care about being banned?

>>87638088
The Phantom Menace : 4/10
Attack of the Clones: 5/10
Revenge of the Sith: 7/10
A New Hope: 7/10
Empire Strikes Back: 9/10
Return of the Jedi : 6/10
The Force Awakens: 6/10

>>87638088
>>87638327
Star Wars : 11/10

This is the only correct answer.

>>87638327
>>87638088
>expecting people on 4chan to accept being force-fed opinions from people other than themselves

This is how shitposters are born

>>87638379
>not 11/38

>>87638327
>The Phantom Menace : 4/10
>Attack of the Clones: 5/10
meme

TPM is better than ANH

>>87638389
>not 1138/10

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I've been collecting a bunch of Pablo tweets and some other random information that is useful in discussions and made a pastebin. If you guys have more Pablo tweets or other useful canon info link them/it so I can add to this growing list:

http://pastebin.com/ruG6pufi

>>87638390
AOTC had worse parts than TPM, but it also had a lot of way better parts as well.

>>87638494
AOTC is great, but TPM has this completely ridiculous meme surrounding it about it being "dull' or "boring".

It's not. Dull and Boring is Han and Luke farting around in the Death Star for 45 minutes.

>>87633662
we dont have any back story for x-wings do we?

>>87638088
>The Phantom Menace : 7/10
>Attack of the Clones: 7/10
>Revenge of the Sith: 7/10
>A New Hope: 7/10
>Empire Strikes Back: 7/10
>Return of the Jedi : 7/10
>The Force Awakens: 7/10

I love Star Wars but I'm not going to sit here and pretend their perfect works of cinema. They're very formulaic and family oriented movies. They're nothing close to Chinatown, Godfather, Citizen Kane or Casablanca.

>>87638622
>formulaic
the OT is more formulaic than the PT

I can't believe that I never noticed how dangerous it is for Obi-Wan to train Luke on board the Millennium Falcon with a lightsaber when he could easily accidentally slice a hole in the roof.

>>87638527
>being so butthurt over PT criticism that you have to make up flaws in the OT

>>87638650
>the OT is more formulaic than the PT
How so? Fallen heroes are common in works of fiction. But still it's largely irrelevant since the movies are fairly simple enough to follow along. Star Wars films are not particularly deep or mature. The films are adolescent hero journey films.

>>87638622
>Implying Star Wars doesn't transcend film.

>>87638088
TPM 6/10
AOTC 4/10
ROTS 6/10
ANH 9/10
ESB 9/10
ROTJ 7/10
TFA 8/10

Is there going to be an episode leaked tonight?

>>87638650
Originality does not make a good movie, anon. All the ideas the PT throws at us arr pointless if it's executed badly. This is why the likes of ROTJ and TFA are looked at more favorably compared to the PT.

>>87639022
No, there's no episode this week.

>>87639031
The PT is very well executed though.

>>87638947
meme

>>87639086
>>87639096
The belief that the prequels, especially AOTC, were good is a meme.

>>87639108
Well believing in memes worked out pretty well for /pol/.

>>87639108
The belief that they are unenjoyable is a meme

>>87639132
Hating Trump was a literal meme and he won. What are you talking about?

Memes are memes.

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>>87639132
Good thing we now have enough salt to feed the world with.

>>87639189
Lack of faith. Delusion =/= faith. Them being the same is a meme.

>>87639108
I always loved the PT, but I don't have the slightest inclination of watching AotC ever again. It's down there with TFA. Well, at least Finn was a decent character.

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So does anyone else think Rogue One could surpass Revenge of the Sith as the most visually stunning Star Wars film?

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>>87639201
>Lack of faith.
I find this disturbing.

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>>87639201
>Lack of faith

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>>87639225
A lack of faith can mean only one thing

>>87639222
Probably not.
Gareth "can't see shit" Evans can't into lighting.

>>87639243
Uuuuh, gottachokabitch?

>>87639108
society ruined you

>>87639345
If you're referring to Godzilla 2014, that's actually an issue limited to the home media release.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/188365

>>87639399
oh wow
Well, then Rogue One might be pretty good.

>>87639189
So was liking Trump.

>>87639399
It seemed dark in the theater too.

Do you know if the theater copies were closer to the trailer or too the BD?

My theater might just have not projected it bright enough.

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>>87639189
I think you must have missed all of the Stormfags and wanna-be tough guys constantly editing pictures of Trump and Pepe the Frog into everything, and then posting it everywhere. It was cancer, just as bad as hating Trump.

It was the epitome of meme cancer.

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>>87639471
I saw it at least 3 times when it released, and I remember the theater version resembling the trailer in terms of brightness.

>>87639528
Why is Blu Ray the fuck up format?
SO many high profile movies have fucked up picture dynamics.

>>87639243
Communist invasion?

Star Wars: 8/10
Empire Strikes Back: 6/10
Return of the Jedi: 9/10
Phantom Menace: 5/10
Attack of the Clones: 3/10
Revenge of the Sith: 4/10
Clone Wars/Rebels: 3-7/10
Force Awakens: 7/10

>>87639560
>Phantom Menace: 5/10
>Attack of the Clones: 3/10
>Revenge of the Sith: 4/10
meme

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>>87639537
I don't know, but it annoys the everliving fuck out of me.

>>87639222
Rots isnt stunning and rogue 1 looks worse

>>87639571
the fuck

>>87632884

There's an image floating around somewhere of sheev's head shooped onto the body of Patrick Bateman. Does anyone have it?

>>87639560
Ooh, we are giving ratings now.
>TPM 7/10
>AotC 4/10
>RotS 9/10
>ANH 9/10
>ESB 9/10
>RotJ 8/10
>Not-ANH 6/10

>>87639563
Sith > Clones > Menace is the meme

>>87639583
Don't call me a phoneposter

>>87639594
I really do wonder if the original intent for Jar Jar was a dark side user, but they ruined it with the forced 'comedy'. Then we ended up with Dooku.

>>87639609
What

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>>87636839

>not liking based Jar Jar

>>87639594
The meme is that the PT is worse than the OT.

>>87639592
>>AotC 4/10
meme

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>>87639583
I wish you would but you wont

>>87639606
Sure thing.... phoneposter.

>tfw I am literally posting from my phone.

>>87639622
The meme could have been right.

>>87639629
>RLM, RT, all those people yelling at George and calling him a bad person, JJ, Kathleen, Disney, pop culture, droves of neckbeards
All memes, eh?

>>87639624
Do you have this gif but not for ants?

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>>87639639
Alert the phoneposterposter

>>87638759

And why are there two scenes in ANH where a person questions the abilities of the Force?

>>87639709
Because in 1977, nobody knew what the force was, and shoving all of the exposition into one scene would have bogged the movie down.

This thread was going pretty well until people started calling things memes like the word actually means anything anymore.

And when have /swco/'s ratings ever NOT been full of shit?

>>87639734
Not the answer, I don't think.

Why would two separate people in two separate scenes question the validity of the force.?

>>87639749
That literally is the answer. It was the first movie, and therefore needed the exposition so the audience could understand what the Force is.

>>87639745
but...

ANH - 9/10
TESB - 10/10
ROTJ - 7/10
TPM - 4/10
AOTC - 4/10
ROTS - 6/10
TFA - 8/10

>>87639749
To show that people in universe tend not to believe in the force.

>>87639759
But they aren't just there to explain. They are presented as if the force has been systematically erased from history.

>>87639772
But why don't they believe?

The Jedi fought in the Clone Wars with the Republic.

>>87639788
No, it's presented as being doubted by people who haven't seen it before (much like the audience).

You're overthinking it.

>>87639800
People were presented with the Empire's version of history, they believed what they were told, whatever that was.

>>87639801

But why is there such a feeling of mystery in ANH. Lots of stuff isn't explained.

Like what did Owen and Beru tell Luke about his fathers death to give it such a mysterious feel.

Luke knows his father died, but no one told him how. They didn't even make something up, just told him not to worry about it.

>>87639816
So the force is being systematically erased from Imperial history texts?

>>87639838
Yes, but the knowledge of its existence is being kept alive by the populace of the galaxy, although some people refuse to buy into it.

>>87639831
Because not everything needs to be explained to the audience.

Alternatively, because Lucas didn't have the plot finalized.

You're still overthinking it.

>>87639816
>>87639800
Not only that but, even with a galaxy wide conflict the >100,000 jedi were spread thin leading their forces. Unless you were somebody important you probably never even see a Jedi.

>>87632884
>Plo Koon

damn it you magnificent responsible adult figure. i miss you, man

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>>87639937
>responsible adult figure
About that...

>>87639656
Yes.
None of those are remotely reliable sources and you know it.