Hey, what the hell's a tiger-force?

>>87624249
It's not as well defined as the speed-force, but it's more or less the innate instinct in all living things to kill.

>>87624249
Have you ever wanted to rip another person's throat out with your bare teeth? Tigerforce.

>>87624249
ask Charlie Sheen. He will tell you

>>87624428
>>87624410
And you're telling me that that's what Darkseid is?
Sick.

>>87624580
Yeah, he is the ultimate negativity. The opposite of hope and life and freedom. Which is why it's dumb when Superman punches him out desu. Or Batman "tricks" him.

>>87624410
>>87624428

Kill just for the hell of it? Or more in some evolutionary sense, like a predator instinct, or an animal that kills for resources?

>>87624580
Oh anon, to limit Darkseid as just the tigerforce would be blasphemy, he's so much more. He IS!

>>87624620
Jobberseid is the worst 'Seid.

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A similar, if not identical, concept came up in the Spider-Man manga.
I blame the Hypercrisis.

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here OP this may help you out

>>87624650
The Spider-Man manga.
I wish all the story arcs didn't end in such a shitty way.
I wish we got to see more classic villains.
And I wish the manga didn't end so soon- just when Yu got a troubled short-haired waifu.

>>87624680
This was immensely helpful, thank you

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I always assumed pic related

>>87624762
glad i could help anon, one day we will all become meat engines for darkseid anyways, its best to be prepared.

>>87624979
Hopefully we don't get any fringe solar-powered interlopers to interfere.

>>87624249
DARKSEID IS!

>>87624622
Predator instinct. Darkseid is basically the embodiment of humanity's drive to trample everything in our paths to fulfill our own selfish goals.

What if though, and bear with me on this, it's an elemental dimensional-force that is literally composed of live tigers.

>>87625991
I feel Apokolips would have more of a tiger motive in her architecture then. Sadly there isn't

I always interpreted it as kind of a weirdly described way of saying that Darkseid is like the universe's apex predator.

"anti-life", "tiger-force"....why is DC cosmic so shit? I guess Marvel was hoarding all the good weed

>>87626361
>why is DC cosmic so shit?

your pleb is showing, anon

>>87626273
Reminder that Darkseid's wife and Orion's mother's name is Tigra. And there's nothing in the New Gods saying she isn't from an elemental tiger dimension.

>>87626296
i like that darkseid has a dedicated pr guy

people always try to turn darkseid into space satan when he's supposed to be space nixion

>>87627991
I think he's supposed to be both. But man, Space Nixon is a good fucking phrase to describe him for sure.

>>87627991
>>87628027

He's Space Satan for the television age. That's why they were called New Gods.

>>87625949
Is there an encyclopedic resource for all of the obscure Kirby coined New God concepts?

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>>87627991

>>87628027

There was that MLK quote about him: “Nixon has a genius for convincing one that he is sincere. If Richard Nixon is not sincere, he is the most dangerous man in America.”

>>87624680
>Has Kanto ever done anything useful?
>No, but he is union so we can't fire him

My sides have transcended the mortal plane.

>>87628249
What DOES Kanto do, anyhow?

>>87628295
he's an assassin

>>87628295
They say he's an assassin, but I'm pretty sure he's just a amateur dramatics guy who got all caught up in everything.

>>87628312
>>87628319
Has he . . . ASSASSINATED anybody?

>>87628347
He was assassinated by Infinity-Man once.

>>87624249
Its at the core of all things you stupid dick.

>>87628365
That's kind of super-pathetic and sad.

>>87628295
>>87628312
>>87628319
>>87628347
>this will never happen in a new gods series

>>87628384
Like I said, am-dram yeah?

>>87628391
it happened in the new52, he did some assassinating. dont remember what book though

Oh, actually I guess Kanto did assassinate the previous Kanto, even though really it was a failed attempt by the previous Kanto to assassinate him. And he didn't actually kill the previous Kanto, just defeated him so Darkseid did.

Perhaps Darkseid trained him as a joke.

>>87628431
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d696t3yALAY
Kanto is just the New God version of Wimp-Lo after all-

>>87624249
Like the Speed Force, only with tigers instead of speed

>>87628091
Just the Fourth World Omnibus' anon.

>>87625991
TIGERS FROM THE TIGER DIMENSION!

The closest Kanto has gotten to being relevant was in Ostrander's Martian Manhunter series, where he's the in charge of a bunch of Apokoliptian experiments and is actually badass enough to trade blow with MM for a while.

I don't know why DC isn't all over him though. Dude's the closest thing there is to a god of assassins. Give him a cooler costume and you could have Deathstroke whose wankery is actually justifiable.

>>87628565
>Dude's the closest thing there is to a god of assassins. Give him a cooler costume and you could have Deathstroke whose wankery is actually justifiable.

Duuude that sounds hype as fuck

>>87628565
All you have to do is upgrade his actual costume so it looks swag and not ridiculous. Renaissance Italy had major style.

>>87624694
>I wish all the story arcs didn't end in such a shitty way.

So you wish it wasn't the manga?

>>87628634
Sort of, I think.

>>87628347
In Suicide Squad he assassinates Count Vertigo, but Vertigo manages to hang on and stab Kanto to death with Kanto's own knife before he passes out.

>>87624580

Nahh. The 'Tiger Force' is just the apex predator - the absolute alpha, the top of the food chain. In the jungle, that's the tiger. In the Multiverse it's Darkseid. Or so he claims.

>>87628745
Jesus Christ. Does Darkseid buy Kantos in bulk or something?

>>87628565
Too many writers forget the New Gods are Gods and instead write them as Aliens.

>>87628565
He'd only get the Lady Shiva treatment.

>>87628745
>is a New God
>is the god of assassins
>tries to assassinate a Green Arrow villain and then gets killed by him
Absolutely pathetic.

>>87624620

To the contrary. Superman IS the opposite of Darkseid. He may be so-and-so powerful, but the New Gods are archetypes... and so is Superman.

>>87624963

The illustration and the font kind of kill it.

>>87626361

Go write to your tribune, plebeian.

>>87628181

The president is SUPPOSED to be the most dangerous man in America.

>>87628295

Darkseid once called him a 'preening clotheshorse'. So I guess he's a male model.

>>87628771
Darkseid can usually bring people back to life at-will, at least on Apokolips.

>>87628852
>>87628181
Where is our Hunter S. for Trump, eh.

>>87628771
Darkseid casually resurrects his henchmen whenever he has a need for them. There's a funny scene in NG vol 2 where he kills Desaad and Kalibak in a fit of rage. He then pauses and goes "Sigh, I guess I'll have you bring you both back to life. AGAIN."

>>87628384

...Well... Infinity-Man is one of the most powerful beings in the DC universe.

>>87628877
But when you ask someone "Did this assassin assassinate someone" and they answer with "they were assassinated" then it's pathetic no matter what.

>>87628819
Mister Miracle is the opposite of Darkseid.

>>87628919
Darkseid really has a lot of opposites, depending on how you look at him.

>>87628870
it's a shame Hunter killed himself, we really could have used his wit and venom in this day and age(my god can you imagine what he'd be saying about Trump)

>>87628936
I think he might have just tried to shoot him.

>>87628936
>(my god can you imagine what he'd be saying about Trump)

He'd be saying something along the line of "this is what happens when you let the wife of a former President rig the primary elections".

>>87624249
>Hey, what the hell's a tiger-force?

http://www.yojoe.com/action/subteams/tigerforce.shtml

>>87628932
That's why he's so great, he's an opposite to everything the idea of a Hero stands for.

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Will there ever be someone again capable of writing with a certain pathos, like Kirby?

I wonder what he would have made of the current president-elect.

Hah. The world being what it is, I am reminded of a quote from a Neil Gaiman story: "Since you [Augustus] we have had emperors who were evil, mad and foolish, and now we have one who is all three."

>>87628932
I like the Darkseid - Orion - Mister Miracle parallels best. Force of ultimate oppression opposed by the force of ultimate freedom, and resisted by the force of ultimate strength (but that carries its own warning....).

But sure, "Hope" Superman is a legitimate opposite. I still don't like it when he just punches Darkseid down. It's got to be better than that.

>>87628871
when darkseid brings people back he can't bring back their souls because he doesn't believe in souls

so they come back as the cheap chinese knockoff versions. useless, 1 dimensional versions of themselves that just spout their catchphrases.

its funny because thats basically what modern writers have turned the characters into

>>87628978
its real sad comparing geoff johns' darkseid to this

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>>87628936

I don't know about Thompson, but I know what Mencken would have said.

“Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats.”

Notice Darkseid seems somewhat disgusted, though.

>>87629031
Oh yeah. Simonson did alright but Darkseid hasn't been written well for a long time. If DC could somehow poach Ewing I think he'd do OK.

>>87624249
Homo Homini Tigris

>>87628971
oh I'm sure he'd have a lot of venom for Hillary as well

>>87629031

Hmmm...

>>87628983

>>87629065
There's no way he'd have been behind her as the nom, especially coming off the Bushes turning the Presidency into a dynasty.

>>87628983

Well, that was Kirby's original intention anyway. Later writers chucked it for the sake of expediency.

I sort like though. The idea that he doesn't allow their souls to return to the Source and instead traps them in his service forever.

"I will drag you to a hell without exit or end, and there I will murder your souls."

>>87629083
well that's kinda obvious

>>87629083
Absolutely.

Heck, he might even have backed Trump as the lesser evil.

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>>87629097
>"I will drag you to a hell without exit or end, and there I will murder your souls."
this version's are the only lyrics I know so it's super embarassing when it comes up on the radio

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Okay. Let's do this.

>>87629126
He would have screamed down the walls of Jericho about Trump, anon. There is no "lesser".

>>87624459
Oh now I want Charlie Sheen to play Darkseid in the next Justice League movie.

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>>87629126

...No, he wouldn't. He is not the lesser evil by any sane standard.

>>87628978
How does Darkseid know about Tinkertoys

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>>87629189

Fool. Darkseid knows all.

>>87629047
>Notice Darkseid seems somewhat disgusted, though.
The thing about Darkseid is that he believes the universe should bow to you because you MAKE it bow down with the force of your own will, blood and sweat. In the Hunger Dogs Esak offers him an easy, comfy victory in the form of advanced technology and he hates it because it cuts against every principle he holds.

So drone warfare is actually more evil than Darkseid. Spread the word.

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>>87629228

Corrupted good tends to be worse than evil that was evil to begin with.

Fact is, Darkseid's evil is not petty evil. It has grandeur. He's a god for pete's sakes.

>>87625991
Like the Dogscape?

>>87629152
My sides are dancing.

>>87629183
By any sane standard, an unproven loud mouthed businessman is a lesser evil then someone who cheats to win elections and has a long trail of bodies behind her.

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I don't remember if Orion already knew Darkseid was his father at this point.

>>87629320
>I don't remember if Orion already knew Darkseid was his father at this point.
He knew. He figures out in the last issues of the original run.

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>>87629310

...This is futile.

Unfortunately you will reap the fruits of your 'lesser evil'. Your children will die cursing you.

>>87624680
This is the funniest goddamn thing I have ever seen holy shit

>>87629343
Funny, that's exactly what I thought would happen if Clinton get elected as the "lesser evil". Even if she didn't start WWIII, she would be emblamatic of the complete abandonment of the working class by the Democratic party in favor of rich bankers and identity politics.

If Trump doesn't run the country into the ground or trigger a civil war in the next 4 years, the liberal side will be stronger for it. We'll have gotten rid of the old, corrupt, and out of touch Clintonistas, and we'll have fresh faced politicians to run, the same way Clinton was a breath of fresh air 20 years ago.

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He isn't loving it.

It's too bad Kirby never really got the chance to finish any of his epics.

>>87624249
>Hey, what the hell's a tiger-force?
stripes + fur + muscle + fang + claw - life ÷ fear ÷ darkness x blood x wounds x injury x death n=y where y=courage and n=dread, beauty=pain, hunter=hunted, force=tiger

>>87629380
>>87629395
Darkseid is such a top tier villain.

>>87629432
In the best timeline Dukakis beat GHWB to be honest. Now we're just flitting through the negatives.

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>>87629432

That's not just a gamble, that is insanity. That is putting everything you have on a zero. It's Russian roulette with five bullets.

And it's for EVERYTHING. Trump's proposals are not just endangering the sociopolitical landscape, they could lead to a global environmental catastrophe.

I keep reading the idea that Hillary would start World War Three. I have yet to see ANY logical reasoning regarding this.

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>>87629454

No, no, no. It's a giant, shadowy tiger outside the known jungle.

>>87629468

He practically defines the term.

>>87629494

In the best timeline, Sargon of Akkad never came to power.

>>87629494
If we were in a better timeline, Bernie Sanders would be the President elect right now.

>>87629498
Are you pretending that election a corrupt wife of a former President who stole elections like we're a banana republic isn't Russian roulette?

FFS, she said a nuclear first strike isn't off the table.

>>87629454
As much as I love final crisis, Morrison really didnt need to lay out the actual equation.

>>87629498
Wanted a no-fly zone over Syria, where Russian planes are.

As soon as its enforced we would be fucked.

Or at least thats how I understand the reasoning. I just hope something stops the rapid polarization of politics.

>>87629568
You have to say that. Russia has been outplaying everyone in geopolitics for 5 years at least. Everything in Dugin's playbook is coming to pass. Look at Nixon for Christ's sake, look at what he said.

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>>87629568
>Are you pretending that election a corrupt wife of a former President who stole elections like we're a banana republic isn't Russian roulette?
>FFS, she said a nuclear first strike isn't off the table.

Stole elections? So you're indicting the election committees? Are you accusing people of foul play?

A nuclear strike? When? And in any case... what the fuck are you supposed to say? "Yes, we have thousands of nuclear warheads, but naturally we will never ever use them." Kind of defeats the whole purpose of a nuclear deterrent.

Meanwhile, Trump seems to like Putin and I can see why...

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>>87629575
>Wanted a no-fly zone over Syria, where Russian planes are.
>As soon as its enforced we would be fucked.

Wouldn't that suggest an agreement with the Russians? The Russians, by the way, who are supporting Bashar Assad, the guy who started this whole mess?

>>87629596
>Russia has been outplaying everyone in geopolitics for 5 years at least.

If that is true, then they are fucked, because their results are pretty poor. If this is their top game...

>>87629644
>If that is true, then they are fucked, because their results are pretty poor.
They got away Mister Miracle with an invasion of Ukraine, and have successfully encouraged an isolationist, fractured Britain and an isolationist, fractured US. There is no leadership in Europe or America to oppose them. This time next year they'll probably have France where they want it too. Ukraine was a Munich moment, it'll only get worse from hereon out.

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The End...

And I am off to bed.

>>87629644
Aside from some sanctions, no one did much about them outright annexing Crimea.

Even being willing to seize land, let alone keep it in 21st century Europe is a pretty big sucess for them.

>>87629596
What did Nixon say?

And who's Dugin? I assume you're not referring to Dum-Dum.

>>87629620
>Stole elections? So you're indicting the election committees? Are you accusing people of foul play?

Yes, I'm accusing the entire DNC of foul play. They screwed themselves, and the rest of the country with them. It's time for us to clean house in the party, like we hoped would happen when Obama got elected.

And it's already starting: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/report-dnc-staffer-blows-up-at-donna-brazile-at-post-election-meeting/

>A nuclear strike? When? And in any case... what the fuck are you supposed to say? "Yes, we have thousands of nuclear warheads, but naturally we will never ever use them." Kind of defeats the whole purpose of a nuclear deterrent.

You use them as a deterrent. You use them to strike back. You don't launch first.

>Meanwhile, Trump seems to like Putin and I can see why...

Every Russian I know, even the non-ethnic Russian ones from Central Asia, voted Trump. They like strong leaders. I bet he'll get along famously with "Death Squads" Deterte, too.

>>87629700
Thanks for storytiming something so awesome, even if we disagree.

>>87629700
Thanks for the storytime anon.

>>87629734
Nixon was willing to make a threat to bomb the whole fucking world if he had to. Aleksandr Dugin, look him up.

>>87629644

Clinton has said that: “strength and resolve were the only language Putin would understand.”

And when asked about what she would do if Russia rejected the idea of a no fly zone, she just brushed the idea off.

She wasn't going to make an agreement, she was going to unilaterally attempt a no fly zone to reverse the course of the Syrian civil war.

>>87629700
Thank you, that was a treat.
Kirby was a delightful nutter.

>>87629691
>Ukraine was a Munich moment, it'll only get worse from hereon out.
Look I'm not happy with Russian foreign policy either, but let's stop a few streets short of comparing them with the Nazis.

>>87629755
>Nixon was willing to make a threat to bomb the whole fucking world if he had to.

So you're saying Hillary Clinton is Nixonian?

>Aleksandr Dugin, look him up.

Jesus Christ, Rasputin is back.

>>87629691

Let's hope you're not the only one who sees it.

Frankly it's starting to look like that movie where George Clooney is a fisherman. That didn't end well, did it?

>>87629811
>So you're saying Hillary Clinton is Nixonian?
Like, every president since Reagan was worse than Nixon when it came to foreign policy.

Nixon actually did FP really well.

>>87629804
Yeah, we can compare them to the Commies instead.

>>87629804
Why? The reasoning of Ukraine is the reasoning of Czechoslovakia in 1939. Russia has a complexity of truth unequaled in the West (all fascism has this complexity of truth) and they expect no better of anyone than what they have themselves. The reasoning of Ukraine can be the reasoning of Finland, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, etc, etc. What is the block that makes you think they can't do what they've already done, again?

>>87629861
And look, it's not about destroying or indicting Russia. The Weimar Russia is the most dangerous Russia. But you have to pressure and oppose when they push - rolling over is an invitation.

>>87629804
Everyone makes the Nazi parralels, but I'd compare the back and forth between the broad catagories of Left and Right holds more similarity to the run up to the Spanish Civil War.

>>87629734

Oh... you mean shafting Sanders.

Yeah. Yeah.

...Historically, that move may be judged like the Sarajevo shooting.

"They like strong leaders"

No fucking shit. Their national anthem should be the Masochist's Tango.

You're welcome for the storytime. I like New Gods.

>>87629802

It might have worked. A lot of people are dying because it wasn't tried. But yeah... who knows what the Russians might do. Although God knows why they're still supporting Assad. Do they really mean to keep him in power after all this?

>>87629804

...The difference is not that great anymore. Aleppo isn't all that different from Guernica.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleksandr_Dugin

Yikes.

>>87629048
How do you think he compares in that Justice League cartoon? Aside from some dumb stuff, like Batman dodging his Lazer beams, I thought he was nothing if not an entertaining villain.

>>87629884
>>87629898
You have to look at Nazism's Aryan ideal with Russia these days selling itself as the true voice of White Christian Masculinity too.

>>87629755
>Aleksandr Dugin

>The former posits an ongoing archetypal clash between land and maritime civilizations and holds that there is a struggle between, on the one hand, harmonious, land-based societies organized around history and tradition and, on the other, inherently liberal, “Atlanticist” “empires of the sea,” whose capitalistic drive abhors and undermines tradition.

Makes sense.

>>87629837
He wasn't bad with foreign policy. He made Vietnam worse, (and Cambodia too) but he pulled us out of there in the end.

And he opened up China, which has proven good for the Chinese, if not so good for the American worker.

>>87629898
>Oh... you mean shafting Sanders.

...what else would I be referring to?

>No fucking shit. Their national anthem should be the Masochist's Tango.

kek, true. And now that song is stuck in my head, thanks.

>Do they really mean to keep him in power after all this?

Who would they replace him with?

>>87629963
It's a convenient us vs. them. Might as well talk about Alpines and Nordics.

>>87629861

Because none of the places you listed were integral parts of Russian territory handed over to Ukraine during an administrative simplification exercise during the Soviet Union? Also, as far as I'm aware, no-one of the Baltic states host the Russian Black sea fleet, and none of them had held two referendums in the 90's about whether to become independent or join Russia that were condemned as illegal.

It's kind of amazing that people seem to think that history began at Munich and ended at Yalta.

>>87629498
Trump's proposals are absolute horse shit. He doesn't have the power to do half the things he's promised.

"OH I'm gonna write a law that says mexico has to give us money" yeah how exactly do you think he's going to enforce that.

He's a boob. He'll be the republican Carter and in 4 years we can all get on with our lives.

>>87630037
Well, we'll see. I expect aggression through until January and a Trump-Putin deal in 2017. This time we'll begin at Yalta.

>>87624650
>Face it Tiger.jpg

>>87629944
Never watched it anon, sorry.

>>87629031
the weird thing is Johns Darkseid was REALLY GOOD for like two pages in Darkseid War

>>87629996

Not really. Think about how the barrier of an Ocean impacted Japan and the United Kingdom, and think how the lack of such a barrier has impacted China and Russia historically.

>>87629861
Ukraine and Czechoslovakia are not the same in any sense brah. Russia was perfectly happy with Ukraine being Ukraine until Ukraine gave them a giant middle finger. I won't argue that it was an entirely valid middle finger or that the Russian response was justified, but in the Russian eyes it was a middle finger nonetheless.

The thing with Russia is that they are an entirely reactive country with severe cultural PTSD. They abhor rivals at their borders and are freaking out over NATO being invited into countries next to them regardless of the actual reasons and are desperate to push them back. Their entire political history revolves around them trying to create buffers between themselves and everyone else That's their overriding political imperative, nevermind dreams about new empires and other bullshit. And that's what makes matching their posturing so dangerous. If you want to effectively deal with the Russians you have to both stand up their provocations but ALSO make it clear to them that you're not actually a threat. That's a very fine line to walk on.

>>87630042

The law would be "Transferring money out of the US requires proof that the transferror is in the US legally. And then a list of fines and punishment for anyone violating that or facilitating violation.

That law would do more damage to Mexico's economy than if the Cartels seized the entire oil sector, and threatening to implement it would be the 'or else' for a border security deal.

Seriously people. He did explain this.

this is almost a /tg/ thread in its topics

>>87630207
I forgot I wasn't on /tg/ honestly. I have this open next to it, and apparently am easily tricked by 'looking away for three seconds'

>>87630164

The other thing that's worth remembering: Ukraine Joining NATO would be like New England joining the Warsaw Pact. It would a) make the country totally indefensible and b) be a crushing psychological blow to anyone with a passing familiarity to US history.

>>87630195
Not that law. I mean the one he promised in his first 100 days that forces mexico to pay for the meme wall.

And no shit it would damage mexico's economy. But how goddamn sustainable do you think an economy that relies on entering countries illegally and stealing their labor is?

>>87630195
And as a result do incredible damage to our economy through the trade Mexico will rescind as a result.

"Mexico is currently our 3rd largest goods trading partner with $531 billion in total (two way) goods trade during 2015. Goods exports totaled $236 billion; goods imports totaled $295 billion. The U.S. goods trade deficit with Mexico was $58 billion in 2015."
From ustr.gov

It'll wreck their economy too, but it'll hurt ours just as much. And there's good odds that the law you mention will wreck our economy *as* it wrecks theirs, by itself.

>>87630087
I recommend it if you can watch it somewhere. First season's rough, but it hits its stride pretty quick.

>>87630444
And that's on top of the trade war with China he seems to be gunning for

>>87630481
That has to happen some time. China IS a currency manipulator. Ask any economist.

>>87630444
Just because we trade a lot of shit doesn't mean it's good or beneficial trade. Mexican famers get fucked over because our crops are cheaper, and our factory workers get fucked over because their labor is cheaper.

>>87629454
i just spat my water thank you anon. may darkseid spare you a moment longer than everyone else

>>87630088
johns was able to make darkseid very physically imposing, which is good on one hand, but he lacked the gravitas, EXCLUDING, the pages i assume youre talking about with Scott's great escape from Apokalypse, which was most excellent. also fuck Johns for changing Scott's name to Scot, there was no need to be so on the nose, its almost insulting.

>>87630731
I rather dislike the towering, gargantuan Darkseid.

I'm not sure about Kirby average human height Darkseid either. I think something like 7ft tall is where it's at.

>>87630815
i do agree, i havent liked him being about 13 feet for the entirety of new52, but you can't deny he's a scary mofo that tall. it just reduces him, in my opinion, to some hulking alien baddie, when he should have more gravitas. but that is just not muh darkseid. 7-9 feet is kosher for me. the only reason i would want him over 7 feet too is just so he can be a bit taller than Barda, but not, and i quote, "two aquamans" tall.

>>87630870
I'd say somewhere around 8ft is good, makes him taller than almost any human, but not something impossible either, as horrid as he is, Darkseid should always have a "human" element to him

Who is responsible for making New Gods not feel like actual Gods?
I feel like that they lost their worth overtime.

>>87633077
Ultimately Kirby fanboys who loved it so much that they wanted his toys in their playbox. And aside from the efforts of a few like Simonson who at least aspired to a very very good Karaoke Kirby, they only ended up diluting the concept. They went from metaphorical concepts and ideas given human form into just another thing for the Justice League to punch. Like the King himself said, create something new rather than just rehashing the same old shit everyone's seen before.

>>87629257

>riot police are armed with Flamethrowers.

Man has style, I'll give him that.

>>87629380

DS wants to FUCK that bomb

>>87633077
I know some people blame Superman TAS and the Justice League cartoon for depowering Darkseid from Evil God to guy Superman beats up in the season finale.

I'm not sure about the timeline of that becoming the case in the comics. Loebs run on Superman-Batman is in there though.

>>87630731

I like the idea of Promethean New gods, but they need to be more Galactus sized or bigger with Boom Tube size manipulations for some occasions.

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>>87624249
Tiger-force is when you get mauled to death by a creature and you cry out "oh god help me I'm being mauled to death by a (insert creatures name)".

>>87624249
I've always seen it as being a metaphor for a tiger's wants. A tiger sees what it wants and ceases at nothing to actually get it, doing everything it can, up to and including horrific violence. A tiger-force is the frightening will, the never-ending burning drive and willingness to fuck someone's shit up to get what you desire.

Even though it sounds badass as fuck, I've always felt like the tiger was a little weak to compare himself to. I mean, tiger's are badass but it's kind of inapt for a dictator like Darkseid.

>>87628565
Ah man, Kanto is probably my favorite of the New Gods that are rarely ever used. Dude is badass and has that great fucking design.

>>87628819
>The illustration and the font kind of kill it.

That's the original print and the illustration was done by Blake too

>>87629528

Darkseid got them googly eyes.

>>87624249
law of the jungle

>>87624249
How hard do I have to Tiger in order to join the Tigerforce?

>>87624249
Its the nature within all living things to destroy and kill. It is also going to be the name of my metal band.

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>>87628565
He looked cool in Darkseid War

What would happen if you gave Darkseid a Yellow Power Ring?