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Fox Planning "Soft Reboot" Of X-MEN Movies

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>According to The Hollywood Reporter, 20th Century Fox is planning to "reconfigure" the succesful X-MEN film franchise in light of the disappointing box office of X-MEN: APOCALYPSE and Hugh Jackman's impending retirement from the role of Wolverine. A new story is being developed by producer Simon Kinberg, while director Bryan Singer has officially left the franchise to pursue other projects.

>The return of the main cast consisted of James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrance and Nicholas Hoult is uncertain as they've all completed their three-picture contracts with the studio, requiring lenghty and costly renegotiations.

>DEADPOOL 2 remains in active development, with JOHN WICK director David Leitch in advanced negotiations to replace Tim Miller, who left the project after creative differences with Ryan Reynolds. The movie features Cable and Domino, and Fox is so confident in its succes they are already lining up DEADPOOL 3 revolving around the formation of the X-FORCE.

>GAMBIT is also back in development following a brief delay caused by the departure of director Doug Liman and star Channing Tatum's commitments to Steven Soderbergh's next project, LUCKY LOGAN. Josh Boone's NEW MUTANTS, featuring Mirage, Cannonball, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Magik and Warlock and which allegedly overlaps with the main X-MEN series, has also been fast-tracked and is expected to commence shooting next spring.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/foxs-x-men-issues-jennifer-lawrence-unsigned-deadpool-defections-gambit-hold-945505
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Didn't we already have, like, 4 other soft reboots for the X-Men movies?
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>>87581841
>GAMBIT is also back in development
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>>87581879
Only one, First Class
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>>87581906
X-Men origins: Wolverine was a soft reboot

And DoFP was a full on reboot
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>>87581943
>>87581906
Oh, and The Wolverine was technically a soft reboot of X-Men Origins: Wolverine
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>>87581943
>X-Men origins: Wolverine was a soft reboot

No, it wasn't.
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>>87581943
Origins Wolverine was not a soft reboot, it was a prequel.
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>>87581943
>>87581968
No, the Wolverine movies were not a reboot in any way shape or form. They were prequels and sequels
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>>87581841
>Josh Boone's NEW MUTANTS, featuring Mirage, Cannonball, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Magik and Warlock

They probably won't even mention that Ilyana is Colossus's brother
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>>87581841
it's for the best, a contemporary setting for X-Men would work better than period pieces we have now.

but Mr. Sinister should still be the next villain.
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>>87581841

>The return of the main cast consisted of James McAvoy, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrance and Nicholas Hoult is uncertain as they've all completed their three-picture contracts with the studio

Well the nice thing about Mystique is she can be replaced easily, and honestly maybe the Fox-Men and Magneto could have a little bit of a seperation for a while. And unless I fell into a different timeline where the Fury Road kid matters, Nicholas Hoult isn't a name and he's going to cost nothing.

McAvoy is the only real issue here.
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>>87582026
McAvoy isn't a star either, he's needs X-Men more than they need him.
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>>87581841
Jesus Christ when did FOX get the time stone. We're caught in a damn loop. They keep making the same damn movie. Also spoiler alert, we're never going to get the X Men team that we want and they'll continue to wank over the same 3 characters
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>>87582274
and they will never draw any conclusion from why people hate the franchise
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>>87582403
>people hate the franchise
Nice bullshit, bro.
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>>87581841
>formation of the X-FORCE
X23, Deadpool, Cable, Domino...Cannonball? Psylocke?
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>GAMBIT is also back in development

it fucking needs it

leave it there until it's fit for human consumption this time

>>87582024
When they started making them, they were contemporary.

>>87582026
>Well the nice thing about Mystique is she can be replaced easily

She's what, 26? Her worldwide gross is over $5bn as a leading actor, based on 14 movies - they might be able to find someone to fill the roll of Mystique, but replace her, as in, actually make this shitshow profitable? Hardly.

If they're really planning on shooting New Mutants as early as next spring - without any cast except Game of Thrones castoffs - then negotiations for the old cast to return are over, as is the existing series.

>>87581980
>>87581974
More of a spinoff than reboot or prequel.
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>>87582403
Would say hate, exhausting more like it. Im over the whole thing. Cant bring myself to care about Logan
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>>87582559
>>87582274

I'd rather not have the original 5 with Iceman since he will have to be gay, despite the pairing with Rogue in X2.
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>>87582274
No different from Marvel recycling the same damn formula every fucking movie.
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>>87582016
>Ilyana is Colossus's brother
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All I want from Gambit is the silly 90's fullbody spandex leotard thingie that reached all the way to head.
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>>87581841
>Fox Planning "Soft Reboot" Of X-MEN Movies

then what the fuck was "Days of Furture Past" and "Apocalypse"? Cause I'm sure that was a soft rebooty you fucking hacks!

Stop being stubborn Fox, and just do what Sony did, jesus!
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>>87581841
>being developed by producer Simon Kinberg

so confirmed garbage already
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>>87582555
Colossus
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>>87582649
>I'd rather not have the original 5 with Iceman since he will have to be gay

This is Fox not Marlel
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>>87581841
JUST GIVE IT TO MARVEL YOU FUCKING KEKS
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>They're fucking up the X-Men movies
>they're fucking up the Batman movies
>the good hero movie is currently Doctor Strange

have I unknowingly stepped into a parallel universe?
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>>87582883
>JUST GIVE IT TO MARVEL YOU FUCKING KEKS

Imagine the diversity. Chinese Storm, Red headed Laura, Midget Cyclops, Gay Iceman
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>>87582818
Haha yeah, I was just thinking the same thing. They need to drop this man already. I would rather have Singer stick around and have Kinberg leave, they can always just gets better writers for material but to stick with him is just awful.
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>>87582883
Marvel doesn't deserve the X-Men.

Continue to enjoy your refried bean Marvel films like Dr. Strange however.
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Fuck Fox. Just give the rights to Marvel already so we can have out MCU. Never seen a studio be so fucking stupid.
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>>87582883
Fuck off, no. The XMen doesn't suit the MCU tone or handling nor do they deserve the mutants back,
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>>87581841
>"Soft Reboot" Of X-MEN Movies
ISN'T THIS LIKE THE THIRD SOFT REBOOT? WHAT THE FUCK
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>>87583059
Nah, rights are good where they belong with Fox.
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>>87582692
While the MCU does have a formula, at it least it has some variety in terms of execution. FOX however has taken it to a whole new level
>Magneto in every damn movie
>Both Charles and Magneto are somehow still friends after butting heads in the first 2 acts
>No one cares about Cyclops
>Wanks over 3 characters while the rest are glorified cameos
>RETCONS
And so on. Keep in mind, I dont want the X Men in the MCU (because its far too late for that and it would be a clusterfuck), I just want FOX to unfuck themselves here. Well that and fork over F4 but thats another discussion
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>>87582939
Yeah, one where Marlel shills have a salary and everything.
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>>87582274
>Also spoiler alert, we're never going to get the X Men team that we want and they'll continue to wank over the same 3 characters
But anon, don't you remember from the end of Apocalypse?

The next X-Men movie will be the "real" one! For sure this time! Even if that's how it looks at the end of every X-Men movie since X2
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>>87582883
Im a MCU fag and even I dont want the X men crammed in. Theyre fine being a separate entity
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>>87582883
You seriously want the X-Men's timey-wimey bullshit wrapped in with the MCU? Just leave it in it's own universe where it belongs
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>>87583124
Sad thing is you're completely right. Only difference last time was that they finally got decent costumes that we'll probably never see again
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>>87582883
>>87583059
NO. MCU is not for the Xmen. I rather endure FOXmen bastardization rather than see MCU's.
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>reboots everywhere
Wow, just like in my comics
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doesn't have to be. if Xmen become part of MCU it could focus on mutants being a brand new thing (with Charles and Magento having worked to hide mutants). People reacting violently and blaming the Avengers for causing them maybe.

on the other hand, it'd stretch an already stretched cinematic universe quite a bit more so it'd probably just come across as a money grab and fail.
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Just a little bit and you'll fuck the continuity harder than Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Halloween did!
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>>87583182
Agreed. Fox has released a couple awful movies, sure, but it's at least made a couple I sorta enjoyed.
Marvel has made the most bland fucking movies imaginable, no thank you.
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>>87583093
I think they're learning. Logan already looks a lot different than your average capeshit and Deadpool naturally due to the character wasn't like the other X-Men films either. Fox seems to be carving out their own niche now, it's good for them.
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>>87583204
I appreciate their efforts to stick as closely to the source material where it counts.
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>>87583293
>Charles and Magneto having worked to hide mutants
I want you to think about how dumb that sounds
>>87583327
I suppose but what doesnt help is that Logan looks like its set in ANOTHER tragic future
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>>87582962
>Red headed
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>>87583372
Well that an Apocalypse being a complete jobber, that was pretty accurate
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Isn't this essentially built into X-Men after Apocalypse?

Wolverine, JLaw's and Fassbender's Magneto all have had completed arcs now. Just soft reboot with McAvoy and the new Cyclops, Jean, Storm and Nightcrawler and give a self contained story that opens up new stuff. Maybe take influence from Morrison's New X-Men which was essentially designed for this
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>>87582962
And don't forget a Austrian Wolverine, Black Magneto, and a Mexican Jean Grey.
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>>87583415
Oh yeah that too. Based Fox.
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>>87583293
there's only 2 ways the X-Men becoming a part of the MCU would work 1 is to have it be the original movie X-Men from another earth for maximum fanservice or be use the ultimate Marvel solution that mutant kind was man made in a lab.

you can't build up two separate races who get their at random at the same time.
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>>87582962
Oh, hey maybe we'll get a Mormon Dust
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>>87583315
At least at Fox you already have the prior knowledge to not expect it as an adaptation of the source material. That you'd treat it more like you'd treat a fanfiction so the dissapointment's not that heavy when it comes to bastardization.
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>>87581841
Not a word about the upcoming Legion serie?
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>>87583612
It's all fan fiction really. Marvel doesn't do any better of a job adapting their source material either, just look at how different Thor and Iron Man are from the comics in terms of movies, stories, and their personalities.
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>>87583644

That one is for some reason developed by Marvel Television
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>>87583434
I think they're struggling with not wanting to do another period piece (since it was dud) and keeping the mostly cheap Young X-Men.

I would set next movie in 20XX,with the same cast Moria included minus JLaw and Fass and bring back the black jumpsuits, comic accurate costumes aren't needed on anyone but Phoenix, and then proceed to not bother to mention anything of the last film taking place in the 80's.
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>>87583673
Oh, so FOX doesn't have any right on it?
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>>87581841

nice, first marvel ruins them and century fox comes to finish them.
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>>87583702
It's a collaboration between the two studios.
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>>87581841
>Fox planning "Soft reboot" of X-Men movies
>djkhaled_anotherone.gif
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>>87583644
hush hush to avoid spoilers for casuals for when Stewart and maybe Bryne shows as mom and dad, since that will be Legion's big sweeps week moment.
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So, what would really happen if the mutants were handed off to MCU? Hypothetically speaking. Considering how Marvel Studios is handling the film adaptations.
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>>87581841
>The movie features Cable and Domino
>and Domino
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>>87583978
Am a bit sad we couldn't have a Wolverine, Domino and Deadpool film. Just these three and their shenanigans.
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>>87583612
But I go into the MCU films like that, am I meant to think Tony Stark with Obadiah Stane father figure or Guardians of the Galaxy with Star Lord as the flake and Gamora as the heart of the team are accurate representations of the source material?
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>>87581841
>soft reboot
For fuck's sake mate, just stick with it, you can't fix it by starting over again, just keep doing what you're doing.
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>>87582274
>we're never going to get the X Men team that we want

Are you seriously suggesting any two people on the face of the Earth can agree on what the X-Men roster should be?
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yfw this nigga exists but some complete tool like Zac Efron will play Cable because capseshit bux
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>>87584063
No, but you have to admit it feels like every goddamn movie feels like them just becoming the X Men
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>>87584069
Please PLEASE God let this man be Cable
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>>87584069
How do we help this man be Cable?
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I wonder if Fox has the rights to make stuff like promotional comics relating to their X-verse?

>>87582939
Doctor Strange was mostly a shit adaptation, though.

>>87582649
Hopefully Fox takes a hint from Marvel's tanking sales and does NOT follow them.

>>87581841
Fucking FINALLY that faggot rapist is gone.
Fingers crossed they're both getting a decent writer and took the right hints from Deadpool.
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>>87584060
They could fix it if they did a hard reboot, but I'd want them to wait a while before doing that. Like stop making X-Men movies for 6-7 years and then start a new series completely unconnected to the current series- not an alternate timeline, not a prequel, just something completely new.

Though I suppose they actually can't wait that long because they'd risk the rights timing out and reverting to Marvel.
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>>87584063
True nigga you can never please fucking X-Men fans no matter what you do.
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>>87583434
>Maybe take influence from Morrison's New X-Men
Fuck you. Just... fuck you. That's all.
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>>87584214
>I wonder if Fox has the rights to make stuff like promotional comics relating to their X-verse?
Nope. They only have movie/TV rights. They can't do anything else, no comics, no action figures, none of that. Marvel still has those rights, so if they want to make X-Men movie action figures and such they need to work with Marvel.
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>>87584278
Crap. Guess the best shot is that X-Men '92 keeps running, then.
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>>87581841
I just want to know if we're actually gonna get back to the 21st century yet rather than dicking around in the late 1900's
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>>87584278
When was the last time they made X-Men movie figures? Origins?
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>>87584354
Yeah, at least that was the last time they made figures that were based on a movie. They released some tie-in action figures for The Wolverine that were loosely related to the movie, but didn't have anything that actually came from the movie. So you'd have a comic-accurate Wolverine, a Hand ninja, a (somewhat) comic-based Silver Samurai, etc, but nothing actually depicting the movie versions.
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>>87582962
>Midget Cyclops
We already have that.
Tye is a manlet
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>>87584412
Wolverine figure from The Wolverine movie was kinda neat, also not too expensive. Kinda wish I had bought it when I had the chance.
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>the shit cast getting replaced
>no tatum gambit
>no more katpiss

FUCK YES! THANK YOU BASED TRUMP!
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So who's left? Mogo?
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>>87581841
>My Hopes
>More focus on Cyclops, Storm, Nightcrawler, and Jubilee

>the Reality
>Deadpool, Wolverine recast, Deadpool, Magneto, Prof X, Wolverine again
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>>87584793
>Wolverine recast
Or Laura taking the mantle. I'd prefer the recast. Let Laura be X23.
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>>87584670
you mean Mojo?
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>>87585059
Who?
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>>87585210
Mojo. Mogo is a DC planet with a lantern ring.
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>>87581841
They should just give the rights back to Marvel. It would be the morally right thing to do. The X-Men belong back home with Marvel. And who doesn't want to see the X-Men in the MCU?
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>>87585269
As an MCUfag?

I don't, they MCU has enough shit happening.

The most I'd wanna see is Logan in Infinity War.
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>>87585269
Nice copypasta, my friend.
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>Hollywood still doesn't realize people like the characters, not the actors

I blame RDJR, studios should replace actors more oftenly so stories can develop by themselves.
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XFORCE?
Does this mean more R rated Xmen films? Logan will make or break this.
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>Lawrence gone so the films will no longer be "Mystique & The X-Men"
>Gambit standalone is back
>Logan is looking like it may be great
>Deadpool 2 got rid of the director and may actually be funny now, and is also bringing in FUCKING CABLE
>New Mutants is going forward
>Fox may entirely scrap the fucking disaster that is the post-Apocalypse timeline and cast

I'm tentatively hopeful for the series going forward.

I really want them to give more non-Wolverine mutants standalone flicks to flesh out the cast and let the X-men flicks be big crossover event films like they always tried to be. I think that copying the MCU formula in that regard would be good for them.
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>>87585895
My dream is that they do an adventure film about the young team members like they tried to with Apocalypse but without the fucking world ending disaster shit interfering.

Just start fresh with the teen squad and spend a few flicks building them up to greatness, then when they're in their mid 20s introduce the new Wolverine + younger gen like Jubilee and start off the big disasters again.
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>>87585890
Could just be the 90s X-Force.
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How much more can they milk the X-Men franchise? Almost all of the popular stories have been used.
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>>87581841
They're not letting go of those rights, are they.

I'm just relieved that the Fant4stic sequel seems to be dead at last.
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>>87582274
>>87581841
CANT FUCKIN DISNEY SUE THEM FOR MALICE AFORETOUGHT OR SOMETHING!?

LIKE THIS IS OBVIOUSLY A DICK MOVE JUST TO SPIT ON DISNEY'S FACE.

Disney's lawyers are the very best in the world, they could win.
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>>87586026
Use them again.
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>>87586074
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>>87586073
The X-men (and FF) rights should be returned to Marvel, by force if necessary. It's better for society and humanity as a whole.
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>>87586094
Fine, then. You'll get twenty solo movies for more popular X-Men with subtle cameos and references to other movies. Happy now?
>mfw I'm not writing script for Iceman's movie
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>>87586073
Marvelkids on suicide watch.
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>>87583099
>anons accusing other anons of being marvel shills have their own salary

fixed
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>>87582555
Orginal plan was Cable, Domino, Warpath, Feral and Cannonball apparently. That will probably have changed to at least include Deadpool.
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>DEADPOOL 2 remains in active development, with JOHN WICK director David Leitch in advanced negotiations to replace Tim Miller
YOOOOO
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>>87586517
Pretty sure that' a proven fake, my man.
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>>87581841
>Josh Boone's NEW MUTANTS, featuring Mirage, Cannonball, Sunspot, Wolfsbane, Magik and Warlock and which allegedly overlaps with the main X-MEN series, has also been fast-tracked and is expected to commence shooting next spring.
Any chance we'll get a Sunspot that actually looks like Sunspot this time round?
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>>87586598
The artist apparently did meet the writer/director and read a script from 2013
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>>87586615
According to the director yeah. Boone's a fan.
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>>87583436
>Austrian Wolverine
Please? We actually need representation.
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I'm cautiously hyped. Seems like FOX is getting better.
>>87587197
You guys have Slade now. Thats enough.

Pic related could play Gambo. He's french too.
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>>87582016
>Colossus's little sister

ftfy
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>>87581841
The only one you should try to get back is Mcavoy but it has to be in smaller support role.

Remember when Professor X got incapacitated in the old trilogy? Let's go back to that.
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>>87584121
but Keira and her acting range..
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>>87581943
I though First Class tied into the original timeline which tied into DoFP, creating the Patrick Stewart universe and the James McAvoy one.
Also, where does Deadpool sit along the timeline?
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>>87584063

>what the X-Men roster should be

Second Coming. Teams A, B and x-force.
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>>87587253
allegedly it's still going ahead with Channing "Jupiter Ascending" Tatum
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>>87584114
>>10 movies and the X-Men is just barely getting started after seeing multiple versions of the future, the past, the present, etc.

Tell me what sounds wrong about that? Do you even X-Men?
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>>87584069
With Ryan Renyolds being the driving force behind Deadpool, I doubt we'll wind up with someone that doesn't fit. And after the success of Deadpool 1, the studio will listen (to a degree).
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>>87586150
>Iceman movie
The first openly gay super hero on the big screen!
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>making jokes about gay Iceman in the setting where he had that blatant coming out scene
It would be a given in a reboot even without the comics.
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>>87581841
>Soft Reboot
No. Fuck no. You had like 3 of those fucking things by now
HARD REBOOT FUCKING IMEDIATELY. Fuck.

>Gambit still happening
really?
>New Mutants fast tracked
nice.
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>>87581841
I don't get it.
Hugh Jackman could totally be wolverine for another 4-5 years.
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>>87582024
Sinister is the villain of Logan
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>>87590417
He's health can no longer keep up with his training regime to play Wolverine, so he's bowing out.
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>>87590441
No, he isn't. But there might be a reference, though.
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>>87582274
>we will never have a movie of cyclops, jean, colossus, nightcrawler, wolverine, rogue and storm getting into the X-Jet to go on a slightly weird super hero adventure
why must you dash my hopes likes this, anon. What did I ever do to you.
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>>87587253
The reason Gambit is getting made is Channing Tatum, if he leaves that movie is most likely dead.
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>>87590665
Damn, oh well.
I figured they could just CGI him.
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>>87590865
Is that perspective correct?
I've never seen such a thing, but that looks like a bitch to pull-off if you've no clue what you're doing.
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>>87583434
>Morrison's New X-Men

It be for the best.
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>>87581841
>impending retirement from the role of Wolverine
OHHH, COME ON, HE STILL CAN PLAY WOLVERINE IN A DEADPOOL MOVIE..."R" RATED? WOVERINE-DEADPOOL TEAM UP? THE BOXOFFICE WILL EXPLODE
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>>87582016
Dude they probably wont even make her a magic user, only a mutant teleporter who (for some reason) wields a sword.
And yes this bothers me because she my waifu
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>>87581841

I thought that's what Future Past was?
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>>87591763
he's jumping off a helicarrier, not a building
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>>87583644
It's going to be on FX. The trailers are on ALL THE GODDAMN TIME. And Audrey Plaza is in it.
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>>87595290
*Aubrey Plaza
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>>87584876
Not like Marvel's even letting her be X23 nowadays
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FOX continues to not understand that people love X-Men because of the Claremont characters and their stories and relationships. They continue to make the same fucking Magneto vs Xavier movie over and over and the fact that they're going to chase Lawrence to do another movie as blue Katniss means they just do not fucking get it.
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>>87586067
I'll be relieved when the Fantastic 4 rights are back to Marvel.
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>>87583434
>the new Cyclops, Jean, Storm and Nightcrawler
These actors suck
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>>87584069
A S K A N I ' S O N
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>>87595457
when it comes to casting these x-men the onlyu thing that matters apparently is
>cyclops has his visors
>Jean is red-head
>Storm is black with white hair
>Nightcrawler is blue

Then it's a gamble on which one other than Jean gets more dialogue.
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>>87595427
FOX has a big problem with not knowing what their anchors are for the X-Men. Sure, Wolverine was the original focus with a dash of Rogue, but then Rogue got dropped and it became more Wolverine, and then all over the place. Apocalypse is the prime example that this franchise doesn't know who is the main character anymore. Go ahead, tell me who was the main character of Apocalypse.

Rebooting won't work because they just tried rebooting. We'll have another Amazing Spider-Man on our hands. The only reason they should reboot is if they're pulling a Sony with Marvel. Otherwise, we'll just keep getting a muddier and muddier franchise.
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>>87595457
not at all
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>>87595511
I actually don't think The GOT chick is a bad actress, she just didn't fit with the role at all.

The others suck, and they really need to just stop this shit.

Famke was a really good Jean imo. Had that real classic look.

>>87595556
Yes, yes entirely.
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>>87595427

Claremont X-Men is more than 20 years in the past. 90's fags are the fucking worst.
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>>87581841
Fuck that, they need to make a hard-reboot.
The timeline is a gigantic clusterfuck, and actors are leaving left and right.
They only have Fassbender and McAvoy left.
Might as well begin a clean slate and do this properly.
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I'm betting that FOX will cut trannyclops right out of the cast all over again.
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>>87588051
Yes, it did, that's why it's a SOFT reboot and not a true reboot. Basically saying "the past movies are still canon, but only kind of". It's like Star Trek 2009.

Mainly because they needed to cast new actors.

Expect Marvel to do the same thing later down the line when the actors are too old and the continuity is too bloated-- they time travel back to when they were younger and somehow end up triggering the events that lead to their origins sooner or something, and the older actors retire and the series continues with the new ones.
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>>87596010
McAvoy is the only one they need, and he's the one most open to coming back. Otherwise they have the new younger cast signed up.
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>>87581841

>tfw got into comics in 06 with New X-Men
>never see a team of Dust, Rockslide, Anole, Pixie, Surge, Blindfold, X-23, Hellion, ect
>no bro adventures with Rockslide and Anole
>no pink haired Best Girl
>No gay best friends

Fuck man. Maybe it's a good thing.
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>>87595427
They're not going to chase her. There's no way they can afford her unless it's a solo movie. Same problem they had with Jackman a decade ago.

Of course they're not going to say she's not coming back, because that would mean a lot of the people who only watched those movies for her will start smack-talking the new efforts before they're even cast, and she's not going to say she's not coming back because there might be a point ten years from now when she does, the same way the original cast came back for a one-off.

>>87586073
They probably signed a ten-year deal with X-Men originally, though I honestly couldn't tell you when that would have been. The first time FOX had those rights was 1996 - they made a tv pilot called Generation X. The X-Men movie of 2000 was made without the full rights - it was discovered during an attempt by FOX to sue Marvel that FOX didn't in fact own anything that said they held the rights to numerous characters they'd already used, including Colossus, and argued that "superpowers" is now a public domain concept - ie there's a limited range of them and nobody really "owns" any given set.

That case was settled privately in 2003. It's possible that the Generation X rights were a separate set to the X-Men rights. It's likely that FOX acquired the right to make any X-Men property they wanted into a movie, retroactively covering themselves. Any attempt to wrest the rights back would need to account for that settlement's terms, which we don't know.

If the rights came from 1995/6, they likely ran out a decade ago. Commonly a sequel adds a few years' grace period to rightsholders, as it can take time to get funding and everything else sorted out. Every sequel since then would add a few years, but there would be no chance of a longer period without a full reboot (as was the case with FF, three times now). For FOX this would mean constantly exploiting those rights - which is why there's so much activity now.
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>>87595414
>Not like Marvel's even letting her be X23 nowadays

But this is Fox.
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>>87596960
There's a lot of activity because they're partners and work together on stuff in a boom environment for their proprties. Fox and Marvel's relationship is good, not bad.
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>>87596997
Yeah but with Marvel pushing Inhumans out more, Laura being Wolverine is probably one of the few things they can get from Marvel's comic book covers being as an "advertisement".
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>>87596398
It is a good thing. It's taken us 16 years to even get close to the New Mutants. What chance do you think they have? They'd never be able to do even half the cast justice anyway.
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>>87597313
Their relationship is irrelevant to the point - FOX likely doesn't have years to wait for a reboot and can't afford to have another Fantastic-style failure of a franchise.

Legion is only 8 episodes; even those may not take with audiences. Gambit is dead in the water, there's no new Singer movie announced (though he has been working on Legion, so that's perhaps reasonable), there's no possibility of future Wolverine appearances without a recast, Deadpool 2 doesn't have a director and looks like becoming a classic case of conflicting interests. All of that is internal to FOX - nothing to do with Marvel. But the upshot of that is that if FOX reaches a point in say early 2018 when for one reason or another they don't have anything in development that's likely to get made, they haven't released anything since early 2017, and audiences have not reacted favorably, it's going to be immensely difficult for FOX to find the time and the funding to get an entirely new project off the ground. Even another tv show would still need to find time in the schedules after being cast and made - lots of people ahead of them in the queue there.

With Fantastic Four it's likely that, because they rebooted and because we know this has been done twice before, FOX now has a ten-year grace period in which to think about what to do. But they haven't rebooted X-Men, even when they've set out to do so - so any claim to be inside their original contract period is bogus, and they're unlikely to reboot in the three years or so (judging from how often they've released new projects) that each sequel from here on out gives them. Given time they could do that - but it would have to be developed in parallel with the ongoing movies/tv shows. Or they could just keep pushing stuff out as fast as possible - but the danger there is that they're creating shows/movies at great expense without any solid idea of how they're going to be received; one bad movie might throw out the next two's box office.
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>>87598870
>>87597313
Ultimately regardless of the relationship the two studios have it's incredibly unlikely that Disney/Marvel would re-lease the X-Men rights - even without the main cast, there's still plenty of untapped stories, plenty of characters to use that FOX is currently sitting on. The danger for FOX is of course that they can't tap the IP effectively and the longer they sit on it, the less meaningful it becomes to Marvel Studios, as their own line of movies diverges further and further from anything that would require the X-Men, or easily include them.

The deal with Sony was particularly prescient on Sony's part; there comes a point at which you've told the big stories two or three times, after which it's diminishing returns.
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>>87583204

I actually, honestly enjoyed Apocalypse more than any other X-Men movie because it was the most like reading a shitty comic
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>>87583294

They already have. They've already had two different Bolivar Trasks: a black guy general in the 2000s and a white midget in the 1970s
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>>87583294

Fox correctly give minimal shits about continuity
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>>87595457
They might suck but they're better than a lot better than the ogs
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>>87598521

Yea, I know. I'd still like tinder best girl, but fox would ruin her.

Still, I'm surprised they aren't at least doing Dust.
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I'll just have to wait and see how Logan do. I'll put on a bit of hype if its worth it.
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>>87581841
McAvoy and Fassbender are the only ones needed to resign

Mystique and Beast have so many damn make up they can put just about anybody under it.
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>>87584670
they haven't even gone into space
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>>87600106
Brood Saga plzzz
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>>87600357
No that's too silly for them, they're ashamed of making comic book movies, remember?
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>>87595550
>Go ahead, tell me who was the main character of Apocalypse.
Ideally, an X-Men story doesn't have a main character. Claremont often balanced things well enough that we didn't have a shitfest like the movies.

>>87595952
His main run in the 80s, maybe 70s, made the characters the ones we love. Few other runs made it enough justice.

>>87597448
>current Marvel
>advertisement
At this point, even Fox seems to know better than Marvel.

>>87598994
Just assume the black general guy is the midget's son with the same name

>>87600357
>>87600440
>X-Men Presents: Mutants vs Aliens
hmmmm
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>>87584069
>>87584121
>5' 1 0
>1
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>wanting manlet cable


>>87584213
stilts
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>>87600440
They have been progressively getting more and more comic-booky as they go along. I think that will continue with future installments.
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>>87581841
Please get someone else for Mystique.
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>>87601298
Just bring back Rebecca Romijn. I'm sure she'd be game.
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>>87582883
Fuck off Disneyfag and MCU cuck...
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>>87601376
Kinda weird how they set up Mystique and Nightcrawler in Apocalypse.
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>>87601376
Nah she's old now. Need a new face that could portray a villainous Mystique.
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>>87583327
>Logan already looks a lot different than your average capeshit
Too bad it's Jackman's last film, so after that Fox will return to the same played out shenanigans the other anon mentioned.
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Cyclops
Storm
Psylocke
Cable
Gambit
Rogue
Nightcrawler
Iceman

Name a better team youmaybe can
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>>87603831
It's all matter of putting your favorites.
I'd remove Nightcrawler and Iceman, since I don't like them.
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>>87603831
Cyclops
Storm
Wolverine
Colossus
Nightcrawler (the three playing off each other)
Rogue (flying brick mode)

Actually, not sure about this lineup. That's enough for a team, but needs:
at least another one from the O5
a brain
a telepath
a teen sidekick

Damn, this is hard.
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>>87603831
How many does a X-team roster usually has?
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