What went wrong?

>>87554849
They didn't know shit about their shows

>>87554849
Fucking PC soccor moms trying to make cash from anime. You do the math.

>>87554916
hey they did other shit not anime too

>>87554849

Too much silly, cheesy, obvious censorship.
Although they did make YuGiOh hilarious.

They just thought that if they offered Japanese cartoons to kids but took all the Japanese stuff out of it they'd be able to prevent a generation of weeaboos. Sadly, they failed.

>>87554849
lost the rights to pokemon. only show responsible for their popularity

>>87554849
they stole money

>>87554849
They lost Pokemon.

>Nintendo of America being heavily involved in the first season of pokemon with script changes,music edits etc. Which would go on to be the structure of all their future dubs
>CEO acting like an idiot at cons, and in general being an idiot in interviews.
>Toei basically handing 4kids the license to One Piece hoping it would be a huge hit
>Pretty much everything besides yugioh and pokemon were complete failures
>attempting to release uncut dvds but half-assed it with dubtitles, and 3 episode volumes

TMNT was pretty good at least

Pokemon and Ultimate Muscle were great dubs that's a fucking fact, you can't prove me wrong.

>>87554849
They censored the living fuck out of every anime dub because muh chilluns

>>87555076
The One Piece thing wasn't completely their fault, they just wanted Shaman King but Toei said they could only have it if they took One Piece as well.

There's just so much shit in One Piece that 4kids edits out of their other shows that when you look at it, of course it's going to be a hacked up mess.

>>87555094
I think Kinnikuman gets some credit because of how fucking hard it is to translate to begin with.

It's chock full of super japanese specific cultural referencies and fucking bizzare shit, but they managed to do it.

>>87555094
Porygon dub when?

>>87554995
It wasn't before?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg2B8GPmJ3E

>>87555118
That actually makes sense since they kinda treated Shaman King nicer than One Piece.

>>87555118
No I agree Toei completely screwed them by giving them such a violent long running series. Who knows maybe that was the intention

They didn't pay for yugioh so they got shafted.

>>87555178
They probably thought One Piece could become the next Pokemon here if they gave it to 4kids.

But in the end it kinda killed One Piece in the west.

>>87554849
They thought they were the hottest shit, but in reality, they couldn't keep up with the times. They thought they knew the best way to dub anime, but over time, obviously, the heavy censorship, name changes and altered music only style of anime dubbing isn't much of a thing anymore.

>>87555148
Perfect.

>>87555256
>>87555304
pretty much this. They should have focused more on the cable networks rather than syndication. Make dubs that were still edited slightly to meet CN's standards, but could still produce uncut releases for the hardcore fans.
DBZ tanked in syndication, but became a smash hit the when the saiyan saga it reran on Toonami. The Frieza saga dub was made on a shoestring budget, BUT was produced uncut, and then edited down for TV so it could be put alongside the japanese track on the dvds.

4kids had a potential goldmine, but fucked it up royally

who /foxbox/ here?

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>>87555407
forgot pic

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>>87555407
Kirby: Right Back at Ya was the shit

I'm still mad about the big VA swap Pokemon did.

>>87555510
happened when 4kids lost the series surprisingly. Not sure why the cast had to change since the dub is still produced in new york using the same talent pool of VAs

>>87555528
Apparently it was a cost cutting thing or some shit, it ended up costing more since when they first aired the mirage episode the reaction to the VA's were so negative they had to redo it all.

>>87555076
You mean TPCi

>>87555510
I can't get used to the voices. Sarah Natochenny has been doing Ash's voice for 10 years now and I still think Veronica Taylor did it better

Looking back it's amazing DBZ took off with shit like this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdGa-2BSFiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7wyidD6mUk

>>87555567
Veronica has kinda said they hit a point where its not really possible for her to come back anyway due to how long its been and Ash magically sounding younger.

>>87555579
All armature VA should really watch the early Funi DBZ dubbing.

>>87555585
Sarah's been doing it longer than Veronica so there's no point in changing it now.

>>87555397
fuck they could have went even further, and had Sean Schemmel play someone in the main cast instead of just minor characters even it was fucking Luffy. Kids would have ate that shit up

Just a reminder that this backwards message made it into an episode of Pokemon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TEzLbzf2CE

>>87555426
>>87555407
Man, Foxbox was really hit or miss, wasn't it?

>>87555819
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfJuJrqFhXM

found this much more terrifying

>>87554995
It was a shame about the music though.

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>>87555118
>The One Piece thing wasn't completely their fault, they just wanted Shaman King but Toei said they could only have it if they took One Piece as well.
Shaman King was animated by Xebec not Toei. 4Kids beat out Funimation when the bids for licensing came out for it it was never a package deal to begin with they wanted it due to its success in Japan hoping for it to have the same level of popularity and they completely botched it with their bullshit.

>>87555156
Shaman King also had a shit load of edits, stupid changes and other bullshit on par with all their dubs. You only think it was handled better because the only thing anyone even remembers about that show was the theme song.
>>87555178
>>87555256
>>87555397
>>87555725
Toei literally had shit to do with that since they have always been hands off in the production of dubs to the point where Funimation had to wing most of the translations for DBZ. The One Piece debacle is all 4kids fault and Toei had no real say in any of it because they didn't care .

>>87555919
I'm trying to remember the edits that 4chan made in Shaman King. I know they changed Morphine's name, but what else?

>>87555994
The obvious stupid name changes, any references to religion, the change in soundtrack and of course violence and blood NOW nothing as severe as say skipping an entire arc like what they did with OP but still it was pretty botched.

Alfred Kahn was a fucking idiot.

>lol, kids can't understand other cultures, even adults don't care about other cultures
>everyone loves rap and high pitched voices
>death? No, everyone just goes to jail or was really an iceberg for Luffy to punch

Dan Green fucking rocked as Yugi. Prove me wrong.

>>87554849
They tried butchering One Piece into becoming their next Pokemon, when they had a potential Naruto, or even a DBZ on their hands. How incompetent can you get?

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Ultimate Muscle was their only good dub.

Fight me.

>>87555118
Also, something that people tend to forget is tat Toei signed off on EVERY SINGLE one of 4Kids' changes.

>>87555919
An exec for 4Kids claims that One Piece came with a Shaman King deal made with SHONEN JUMP, not with Toei.

>>87555076
Didn't they also release Yugioh uncut with no subtitles?

>>87555919
>>87555118
It wasn't Shaman King. It was Ultimate Muscle and Magical Do-Re-Mi that 4Kids wanted and ended up getting One Piece with it.

>>87556146

Except they didn't. They gave them the rights and that was pretty much the end of their interactions. Toei didn't care what happened so long as 4shits made them money.

>>87556153
That still doesn't make sense since both anime came from different distributors and 4kids had to bid on it hence why Funi couldn't get it and there's no way in hell a property as big as that would be given away in a package deal with a lesser known property.

>>87556068
>They tried butchering One Piece
the intro really captured the feeling though?

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>>87556076
Their Funky Cops dub was flawless, but it's vanished off the face of the earth

>>87556200
> YOYO ONE PIECE MOTHAFUCKA ONE PIECE YEAH, YO LISEN MOTHAFUCKA ONE PIECE IS DAT TREASURE AIGHT YOOOOO

No, drink bleach and die

>>87556192
>>87556153
I heard somewhere that it was actually Tokyo Mew Mew

>>87556181
>>87556153
>On July 22, 2010, an interview between Anime News Network and Mark Kirk, the Vice President of Digital Media for 4Kids Entertainment, revealed that 4Kids acquired One Piece as part of a package deal with other anime, and that the company did not previously screen the series before licensing it. However, once 4Kids realized One Piece was not appropriate for their intended demographic, the company decided to edit it into a more child-oriented series until they had an opportunity to legally drop the license. Kirk said the experience on producing One Piece "ruined the company's reputation." Since then, 4Kids established a more strict set of guidelines, checks, and balances to determine which anime the company acquires

>>87554995
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2bml9_is-littlekuriboh-writing-for-yu-gi_fun

>>87556183
That actually makes it worse. Funimation often talks about how much Toei meddles in their dub, yet they let 4Kids do whatever they wanted to the franchise they desperately wanted to be a hit?

>>87556200
I liked how they dropped the name of the series in.

>There once was a man named Gold Roger who had fame, power and wealth, beyond your wildest dreams. Before they hung him from the gallows these were the final words he said "my fourth new is yours for the taking, but you'll have to find it first. I left everything I own in ONE PIECE".

unironically love it.

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>>87556222
I really have to wonder if the company was ran by idiots

>>87556236
YAYOYAYO DREAMIN

>>87556222
>One Piece as part of a package deal with other anime, and that the company did not previously screen the series before licensing it. However, once 4Kids realized One Piece was not appropriate for their intended demographic, the company decided to edit it into a more child-oriented series until they had an opportunity to legally drop the license
Unbelievable. Its not as YGO, Shaman King and Ultimate Muscle were kid friendly either

>>87556236
Why is the treasure called One Piece?

>>87556240
I don't care they're fuck up opened me up to one piece I love it even more now that I've read it. They still censor shit in japan.

>whitebeards death

>>87556254
AND L A D Y NAMI'S NOT SHY

>>87556263
I actually don't know it could be a super weapon, it could be vast riches, it could be a hidden truth. It's all in one piece supposedly.

>>87556222

This is just bullshit. Yea, sure, they totally intentionally made a shit dub to lose the license instead of just shelfing it or at least trying to make the most of what was given to them. This is just them pretending to be victims so people will stop calling out their shitty handling of dubs.

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>>87555407
Never ever

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>>87555876

>>87555819
>It's true
Fuck I can't believe the madman actually did it.

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>>87555819

Now that's talking out of your ass.

>>87554849
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TEzLbzf2CE

When your own Voice Actors hate your guts so much they record a backwards message in fucking Pokemon.

>>87554849
YO!
YA-YO YA-YO!

>>87556360
Already posted senpai, also the message was taken of in the DVD release.

>>87556261
Ultimate Muscle is perfect on paper. It's a dumb gag show sequel to a vintage dumb gag show, starring pro wrestlers with wacky costumes and super powers, and the hero is a dopey twit who farts constantly and pisses himself in terror. S'perfect for what 4Kids was looking for.

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>>87555407
>mistyping the foxbox url took you to a foxy boxing site

>>87555579
Rock the Dragon makes everything better

>>87556400

Well, the anime wasn't nearly as graphic as the manga, which has cocks, EVERYWHERE.

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>>87556324
I thought it was Nash from the Thumbnail

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>>87556453

The original Kinnikuman and the sequel manga are fucking adult as hell. Original series had a dude getting ripped in half and turned into ramen or some shit, and the current series has cocks galore.

Or so I've been told.

>>87554995
>Too much silly, cheesy, obvious censorship.

If the FCC laws say you can't have certain things in your programming, then you can't have those things in your programming, It's just that simple.

4Kids doesn't write the laws, they just have to follow them.

>>87556477

FCC didn't have dick to do with them.

>>87554849

I don't harbor any grudges against 4 Kids. Such things like bandwagon jumping is beneath me.

>>87555426
I remember Ultimate Muscle being pretty damn entertaining. Only show I don't recognize is Funky Cops.

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>>87556496
Why did you make this post? Was it just so you could feel smug over something so inconsequential?

>>87555510
There were better ways to tell the cast that they were getting fired, except somehow James Cathcart got to come back and steal more than 4 roles from other actors

I solely believe that Christopher Niosi doesn't talk about that shit because he's part of the Pokemon cast since 2010

>>87556525
Funky cops was around for so short of a time that no one really remembers it.

>>87555579

This and original USA dub for GT makes me thankful for the Canadian dubs.

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>>87556650
>Canadian dub of GT
>good

>>87555876
Is that Slutty McSlut?

>>87556200
>the intro really captured the feeling though?
That would make sense if they used the original 4Kids intro they had

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrHO6DtFJ-Y

and not that rap

>>87556453
I read a chapter after watching ultimate muscle and Kevin Mask cut some dude into 5 fucking pieces.

>>87556453
I definitely recall hearing the most recent Kinnikuman manga had dudes getting their faces ripped off

>>87556466
>>87557327
>>87557352
I seriously need to check this shit out.

>>87555304
>name changes
A double edged sword, sometimes it work and sometimes it doesn't.

For example I watching the dubbed version of One Punch Man the other day, where he was raiding the house of evolution. They called Carnage Kabuto for Carnage Kabuto, I have no idea why they didn't call him Carnage Beetle. Would have been less jarring

>>87554849
Everything starting with Yu-Gi-Oh!

>>87555076
>TMNT was pretty good at least
Let's not lie to ourselves, anon.

>>87554849
God tier openings, terrible dubs

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I remember their dub of Tiga being the least terrible thing that they made, and even that had some weird mood shifts during fights.

I think the best thing they've ever done was help Rankin-Bass make Thundercats.

>>87556466
I haven't gotten around to reading Kinnikuman II, but I've read a fair amount of the revival, and I haven't seen a lot of dicks. There's a lot of crotches, obviously, since almost everyone's wearing tights, but there's not enough detail to take notice of anything.

I still wonder why 4Kids didn't us the Jap OST that much.

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>>87554849
This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FEc2gjXYoQ

And this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JzeWIRRVyKo

And this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihaJdNzryXA

Don't forget about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaYJEyu53wk

Once on Fox Kids, Escaflowne actually showed uncensored blood. It's a bit suprising, but Escaflowne wasn't dubbed by 4K iirc

>>87559382

I don't remember them showing blood on Escaflowne

Course they also cancelled it after 6 episodes

>>87555076
So Nintendo's shitty localization practices are what caused 4kids

>>87559402
It was on YTV, sorry. The scene where Van and Dilandau are having a sword fight, Van slashes up and cuts his face retained it's blood in the TV versions (they cut out a quick scene of Dilandau's hair falling to the ground) and some guy's arm getting bit off by a monster retained it's blood by showing the blood splatters on his face. The blood wasn't altered to be black either. You can find the TV edited versions on Youtube.

>>87555256
It could have become the next Simpsons if they wouldn't have fucked up the dub. And I am talking about the good Simpsons, not Zombie Simpsons.

Just take a look at Germany. They did thier own Dub, took the japanese opening with German texts (which got dropped at around Episode 400) and aired it mostly uncut and it was and still is really big, up to a point where it is as relevant to Normies as the Simpsons or Spongebob

>>87554849
I remember being excited that they were going to air the One Piece anime since I was reading the manga a year before.

Then I noticed the show had tons of censorship and they removed a few a scenes. I was a little annoyed because it wasn't like I could torrent since my family couldn't afford internet at the time.

>>87555994
They made the pompadour guy mexican.

If you're a normie who doesn't get buttmad over how they censored a couple of generic anime, then you likely wouldn't have an issue with them.

It's these hardcore anime fans who wouldn't have even watched something like Yugioh subbed or dubbed that seem to have an issue with them.

>>87559594
>Germany
>Uncensored

Really? I've seen their Naruto dub and it's pretty heavily butchered.

>>87556056
Shame that his wife died. I don't think I've heard from him since then.

>>87556229
They are probably hard on Funimation BECAUSE of 4kids.

>>87560299
Also to help cover up their own incompetence with their handling of One Piece with 4Kids.

>>87555304
Tell that to the fags who dubbed yokai watch and Doraemon.

Wasnt Doraemon cancelled!? GOOD!!!!?

>>87560258
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0337751/

He's still active.

>>87560379
How much do they meddle with the dub though? All Funimation has to do is translate.

>>87556056
NOW CLUCK, CLUCK LIKE A CHICKEN

>>87555407
>>87555426
>Cubix: Robots for Everyone
My brother got the transforming Cubix toy with detachable parts that you could transform into whatever the various forms you could see in the show, like that hovercar or whatever.

Needless to say, half the pieces are missing now.

>>87556223
What the fuck was that.

Did the writers watch a ton of abridged yugioh or something?

4Kids is just another company that was stuck in the late 90s style of anime dubbing

>>87559753
Naruto is honestly weird as fuck in germany. First of all the first intro is trash. Most of the series has less blood, some big weapons removed. But you know, they actually removed some of the clouds when Naruto went sexy jutsu

>>87555148
>that artifacting
Holy shit, it's like I've gone back to early 2000 streaming anime.

>>87560645
>But you know, they actually removed some of the clouds when Naruto went sexy jutsu
Because they want their kids to be straight and impregnate everything female.

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>>87560515
They forced Funi to get a female voice actor for Luffy, and it went over so well that they now cast Colleen Clinkenbeard (oh, holy shit, I just now realized it's spelled "Clinkenbeard" rather than "Clickenbeard", and I've been pronouncing and spelling it wrong for years, thanks Google spellcheck) as other "young males" in other shows, like DBZ Kai, but that's the only one I really know of, outside of supervising the script writing.

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>>87554849
I'll never see dubbed Heroman because Disney are fucking Jews.

>>87559753
Naruto was heavily cutted because Panini cutted the already heavily cutted American cut of Naruto. One Piece on the other hand was handled at first by Tele München, who used the original version of the Anime as a base and mostly aired it uncut. The licence then shifted to ProsiebenSat1 Media Group, which structures it's channels towards people in the mid-twenties. They just dubbed it and didn't change anything else.

>>87560718
>(oh, holy shit, I just now realized it's spelled "Clinkenbeard" rather than "Clickenbeard", and I've been pronouncing and spelling it wrong for years, thanks Google spellcheck)

dat aside

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>>87556466
>Original series had a dude getting ripped in half and turned into ramen or some shit

Yeah that was Brockenman. He was a Nazi wrestler that would breathe poison gas to attack people.

He got ripped in half in the manga while in the anime back in the 70s he got turned into ramen

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmP5fxuRPw8

>>87554849

>What went wrong?

Anime.

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>>87561295
>Pastality!

>>87561065

>cutted

Are you four years old?

>>87561295
The ramen one was a lot worse than being torn in half.
I mean how strong do you have to be to flatten a man's skin, bones and various entrails into noodles?

>>87556261
>Unbelievable. Its not as YGO, Shaman King and Ultimate Muscle were kid friendly either

But they were easier to edit for Saturday morning TV standards than One Piece.

>>87560515
I remember Funi having to fight to reinstate the original names of weapons, moves, and things like that in the redub of One Piece. Funi had to show evidence to Toei that the original names were in fact that.

The Pirate Rap

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>>87560794
I know how you feel, I want a dub of Disk Wars with the EMH/SSM/WatX-Men cast crew

>>87561295
Por qué hay partes en japones y luego en español denuevo?

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>>87555076
I find the Shaman King to be good unironically

>>87555876
Splinter kills me

>>87555579
>That second one
My sides. Was he fapping?

THESE DONUTS ARE GREAT
JELLY-FILLED ARE MY FAVORITE
NOTHING BEATS A JELLY-FILLED DONUT

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>>87560466
Have you ever actually watched either either of those shows? Because both have some of the best dubs I've seen in a while.

>>87560628
You think that's good you should watch the dub of Duel Masters.

>>87556056
Yeah, he did a pretty good job as Yugi/Yami. But I can't unhear his hentai voice acting now though when I rewatch

>>87560718
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asE8vgVAI8o

Totally reminded me of this

>>87556222
Bullshit if that was true they would of never got escaflone

>>87565236
That was Saban not 4kids.

>>87564432
>You think that's good you should watch the dub of Duel Masters.

Duel Masters was a shit generic "kids fight using trading cards" show in Japan. Total dime a dozen.

The gag dub it got that did a ton of re-editing to include old timey stock footage and weird gags was the only thing that ever made Duel Masters noteworthy on any level.

>>87563587
The shit they censored in the Shaman King dub actually created plot holes though

>>87556223
The Yugioh Gx dub was all kinds of terrible, but fuck if it didn't make me laugh every now and then

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEV7M2-T6pU

>>87556493

4kids aired on Fox, which was network TV. As such they had to abide by both Fox policy and FCC standards for children's programming. Cable doesn't do dick with the FCC.

>>87556056
He did, but he's a terrible goddamn voice actor in general.

>>87565428

Yeah, it's why Mr. Popo was blue on the CW broadcast of DBZ Kai but black on the NickToons broadcast.

>>87554849
Yu-Gi-Oh art is censored all the time because of them

>>87565452
I disagree even in dubs that aren't very good or well directed like Patlabor, Narutaru or Utena he still manages to turn in a good performance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k08aABBxajs

>>87565611
His Knuckles voice was garbage. This is not up for debate.

>>87565627
As was every other Knuckles VA. Who the fuck cares about Sonic voices?

>>87565426
This guy was high as shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxaWEZVN-A0

>>87565656
Don't mock the Sonic Adventure voice!

>>87565725
Not mocking it, but it still sucked like the rest of the voices

>>87565426
https://youtu.be/4kSoivzl-GI

>>87556742

It was still better than the USA dub of GT, that was painful.

>>87565772
You'll forgive me if I'm not giving particular weight to the opinions of someone defending Dan Green as a voice actor.

>>87565903
Canuckfag pls

>>87556283
Actually, it's not. I know a case in Mexico, a distributor (Comarex) wanted to license TMS' Saint Seiya Lost Canvas, but TMS made them buy also the license of two Conan movies.

>Y eso no es todo, ya que muchas veces te venden la serie en un "paquete". ¿Que quiere decir esto? Que si quieres adquirir "X" serie, debes comprar también obligatoriamente otra serie o película de anime y mandarla también a doblar, ya que "sólo está disponible de esta forma para Latinoamérica". Y fue lo que sucedió en el caso de Comarex con Saint Seiya Lost Canvas y Detective Conan. Japón intentará exprimir hasta el último centavo.

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>>87566121
>hating Dan Green

>>87557381
All Viz names for OPM characters are the official Japanese romanizations. See the Japanese website - they have Mumen Rider and Amai Mask in English too.

>>87560258
He's voicing Yugi in the new movie.

>>87565426
GX's Rock OST is fucking awesome

>>87554849
They fucked up the first Pokemon movie.

>>87565428

Except a lot of it wasn't necesary. It's stupid in-house rules from the station like Fox did with Spider-Man (which was dumb because they didn't apply that to X-Men)

>>87565802
>Dino DNA.
>Doctors transplanting a Dinosaur bone into him.
I don't even.

>>87567113
GX was odd.
Pretty sure there was a guy who carried a crocodile too.

>>87567113
That was the other thing I realized too, where they just too poor to build a fake bone for him? Because no doctor would do that shit.

>>87561295
>Kills a Nazzy
>Knocks out his son, gets said son's respect and admiration afterwards
>Perfectly fine with killing when he feels it's justified, even after his face turn

so based

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>>87567113
It gets even weirder. Anyone have THAT picture from GX?

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>>87567450

>>87567450
There's a lot of THAT in GX. You'll have to be more specific.

>>87560466
>Doraemon's dub already tried to make American viewers think it took place in the United Ststes
>Big G

>>87567480
This one
>>87567477

>>87567450
>>87567477
I think I'm starting to understand why anime cards are as awful as they usually are.

>>87565065
What hentai voice acting?

>>87567339
It was probably a bunch of unqualified chucklefucks trying to play doctor and thought "We can rebuild him! Bill, get that dinosaur bone and the bone transplant DVD! We are going to make medical history!"

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>>87567531
>he doesn't know
https://youtu.be/JjZupL6kEPM
https://youtu.be/wuX7a0Hdl1g
https://youtu.be/Z082VAWmPdw
https://youtu.be/mQqIGKpGKJk

>>87565065
I think Mike Pollock also said he once did Hentai like Dan.

>>87567534
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>>87565418
like what?

>>87555076
This.

Not to mention taking things that had the potential to be huge and shitting all over it with design-by-committee marketing.

For example: They tried turning Card Captor Sakura into a show with a male-lead.

>>87555426
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eqca_Wc2V0

>>87561659
Disk Wars did get a dub and surprisingly they reused a mix of the current Avengers cartoon, EMH, Wolverine and the X-Men and much more, unfortunately I only know about this because I asked some voice actors around on Twitter who confirmed it for me.

>>87568535
That was Nelvana.

>>87568801
Wait, seriously? I distinctively remember it being in the 4kids block.

>>87568837
http://cardcaptorsakura.wikia.com/wiki/Cardcaptors

>>87568858
Okay, then I guess 4kids is slightly less the devil in my book.

>>87568535
cardcaptor sakura was shit anyways, i'm surprised they tried to at least make it decent

>>87560718
Funny enough Funimation did a test pilot dub for One Piece before 4kids got it and Eric Vale voiced Luffy long before he became Sanji. Small world huh?

>>87568894
>cardcaptor sakura was shit anyways
Shit-tier bait.

>i'm surprised they tried to at least make it decent
>by trying to write-out the female lead of the show in favor of a side character.
If not trolling, then eat shit.

>>87559509
No, that was later debunked.
>>87567498
>Mir butchered it with so many edits that why they bother is beyond anyone.
>Edits are done in Korea due to that if they were done here it will be cheaper to make a new show.
>Should of never bothered with Doraemon, instead pulling a Bakshi Mighty Mouse with Hamtaro's human cast (in other words, NOT A DUB) on another network.
>>87568894
No it is not.

>>87556477
I'. sure the FCC forced 4kids hands when thry changed riceballs to jelly donuts

>>87568975
>>87569016
carcaptor sakura is only like by nostalgiafags or madhouse wankers
it's the reason why moeshit today exists

>>87569043
Congrats, you made a post that's 100% wrong

>>87569039
Those edits were done by Korean studios (Toei Philippines for One Piece's case), to expensive to do them in the US.
>>87569043
No, we have debunked that.

>>87569043
I wonder what it must be like being the dumbest person on 4chan. Can you tell me what that's like?

>it's the reason why moeshit today exists

As a protip: don't shitpost about animation history on the /co/ board.

at least megaman was pretty good

>>87568058
I miss Billy Mays.

>>87569016
didn't disney own the licensing rights for doraemon in the US for over 30 years but did nothing with it?
honestly it does make me wonder why they even bothered with a dub so late

>>87569134
We don't have to miss him, we can celebrate his name.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYNhB0R-bIQ

>>87569143
Not anymore, rights expired.

Also they did not hold the rights for 30 years.

>>87567113
>I don't even.
Atleast try to blend in

>>87563587
>>87565418
Mexican here. We watched Shaman King on Fox Kids and I wonder if the version we got here was the same as the 4Kids one. It had the original soundtrack.

>>87569112
>implying you yourself know anything about animation history

>>87555510
Man I remember that was THE big fucking thing when I got introduced to the Pokemon anime fandom. Forums were fucking bloodbaths about shit like which VA's were better.

>>87556035
>skipping an entire arc like what they did with OP
What a bullshit, what arc was. Enel due to religion?

>>87569442
Laboon's arc and Little Garden

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>>87559342
>all those edits

>not even mentioning the time 4Kids removed an entire story arc with the power of a jump cut

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bw1u7YvGmYQ

>>87555567
Ash's voice was so bad in Hoenn.

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>>87569508
Wait, if they skip Laboon how the fuck would they have explained pic related?

>>87569951
Nobody knows, How Usopp gets the giants at Enies Lobby to side with them is another question.

>>87569951

He's a puppet or something?

Franky is probably now an Ahnuld-sounding robot.

>>87569306
Far more than you do if you think CCS is the start of moeshit.
I'm going to venture that you don't know dick about animation if you even think it started in Japan. You dumb, shitposting retard.

>>87566395

It is bullshit.

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>Ctrl + F "Viva Pinata"
>"0 Results"

So I take it the feelings are pretty lukewarm?

>>87570735
>"Viva Pinata"

*"Viva Piñata"

>>87569951

Turns out it was a missing episode that the crew forgotten.

>>87569994

He just lies that he knows their leaders. Doesn't bother with the laughs, he just guesses some shit about Dory and Broggy and the Anus Lube giants agree to help.

>Childhood is when you think 4Kids is the devil and wrong.

>Adulthood is when you realise 4Kids was right.

Can we honestly say the west is better for having been drawn into the world of weaboo-ism like Nippon has?

4Kids literally did nothing wrong. Who the fuck cares if they changed Onigiri to sandwiches? Thats some PC liberal "muh cultural appropriation" level stuff right there to complain about.

And my God if 4Kids did one thing right it was choose voice actors. I cringe at non-4Kids dubs (minus the few that are really good like Trigun, Samurai Champloo, Cowboy Bebop etc.)

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>>87571442
>This entire post
Take off the goggles, friend

>>87567670
Is this early furry porn?

>>87571442

>baiting this hard

>>87569288
Then it wasn't, it was the japanese version, alongside the original 4 digimon shows, too bad that Intertrack moved to Cuernavaca and hurt the dub of Tamers and Frontier.

>>87570748
How far did the 4kids dub get?

>>87569204
Good, their dub was garbage anyways, the same shit as Saban/HarmonyGold/Synicated Viz/Funi/4kids/4kMedia, same fucking dogshit!

Even the mexibros got the japanese version (tough i dont think they dubbed more episodes)

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>>87572793

The filler set after Baroque Works, Rainbow Mists. Straight after that, Funi got the rights and began with Jaya/Skypeia arc.

And then it vanished halfway into that before Toonami died its first death.

>>87572912
I remember Funimation had like a year and a half gap at the end of Skypeia.
That was also when they stopped dubbing the intros. Shame, I like Vic Mignogna's singing voice.

>>87565347
Are you sure, cause Duel Masters wasnt really "the knockoff" in japan, it had more series and teh manga did quite well, but Hasbro had no faith on it.

Why amerifats were so goddamn stupid and stubborn to just use the gag dub tier at various degrees for their shows, like american kids couldnt handle dubs that respect the source material? or is it something else?

Like really? is it really something else?

>>87569807
>So much for that iceberg!
At least that bit was funny. Not worth it, but funny.

>>87572793
I don't think they got much further than beating Crocodile.
Some of the games had VAs for Enel and his priests though.

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>>87573113

I fucking loved how they did that episode in Dub Piece.

>The filler arc villain makes references to his "Jimmy Neutron hair" and his nails
>Nami kicks him off the ship and into the water
>"Wow Nami, that's like the first time we've ever killed a person"
>The iceberg is just a shitty picture with a "scary face" drawn on it
>Luffy punches the picture

I miss those glorious bastards.

>>87556477
And i bet the Radio-television and Telecommunications Commission forced treehouse tv to sensor the word loser
not just that they forced them to censor the whole dam sentence.

>>87554995
i do have to give them props on the yougioh theme

what was the japanese one like

>>87567057
Are you kidding me, the first three Pokémon movies were the best!

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>hate just about all the shit they did growing up
>write off about every franchise they touch
>learn/see some of this shit actually looks pretty good
>pain in the ass to find proper dubs (for some even subs) of shit
>mfw

what should i go back and take a closer look at? other than one piece as kickass as it seems it is also terrifyingly long

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>>87569043
>it's the reason why moeshit today exists
Yes, shows like Minky Momo, Sailor Moon, Wedding Peach and Creamy Mami came out right after CCS when everyone saw how the newly invented magical girl genre was a hit with the late night otaku audiences it was aimed at.

After those shows became hits some greedy conniving businessmen founded Kyoani, they made K-On as their first anime (actually outsourced to Tibet and made by starving orphans) and then after that literally every anime has been a copy of K-On. Even to this day if you go to Akihabara and mention Cowboy Bebop you will get stabbed right away and then your organs get harvested and sold so some otaku can buy more sex toys for the rape dungeon where he imprisons five year old girls that he thinks are anime characters.

>>87578119
Anime is hardcore.

>>87567670
I can not unsee Season 0 Yami Yugi.

>>87569807
What was the cut story arc?

>>87577933
The manga is faster to read, though the fights are dragged out longer in the anime. Some Gundams might be up your alley.

>>87555876
Splinter is pretty good though.

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>>87570012
Speaking of that, there was a scarily accurate parody of just that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCb4U4Qrek0
Or, were you referencing it?

>>87580027
that iceberg was originally a whale
problem is that whale is a MAJOR part of the backstory of one of the (future at that point) crewmembers

>>87573018
It's such a blatant ripoff there's no point in even trying.

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>>87583581
Those haphazard pant edits on Franky

>>87578119
Didn't kyoani work on Full Metal Panic! before K-On?

>>87554849
Yo!
YAYO YAYO!!