lol

>>87544889
>mcu once again ashamed of their source material, especially in regards to their villains

what a surprise

>>87544889
Fake and homosexual.

>>87544889
Always with the dissappointing villains

>>87545060
It's exactly as it was in the concept art that leaked months ago, only less detailed because it's a shitty photo of a cheap action figure and not a drawing

>>87544889
That's the jacket of a man who could survive being tossed out of a plane!
Weird mask though.

Hopes deleted.

>>87545673
>That's the jacket of a man who could survive being tossed out of a plane!
Was he shot first?

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>>87544889
Pfft. I know, right? He should be wearing a green bodysock with a giant feather collar.

What hacks.

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>>87545748
Or if they could at least use this hip, modern redesign that totally doesn't remind us of everything wrong with 90's comics.

>>87545748
they could of easily given him the black armour faggot, its distinct enough to not look like another iron man suit, besides Vulture is a legit great villain and deserves better then discount starlord

>>87545875
pretty sure that wasnt toomes, wasnt he the second vulture

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>>87545875
But what REALLY pisses me off is that they don't use the Jimmy Natale version. Come on, people LOVE hipster battle armor!

>>87545908
It was Adrian. He had the power to leech off the youth of others during nineties.

>>87545908
Nope, that was Adrian after he absorbed the "artificial life" of the clone of Peter's mother and de-aged himself.

>>87545748
>>87545875
>>87545921
Mouseketeers are so easily butthurt.

>>87545932
vulture is my all time fave spider villain bar kraven and yet i am only just hearing of this.

The actual fuck

>>87545921
he was pretty cool and thats a better outfit than what were getting

>>87545976
It's because they don't read or like comic books and insulting the MCU is literally insulting the "geek" persona they like to believe they have built for themselves

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>>87545982
The 90's were not a good time for the Spider-Man cast.

>>87546022
to be fair to them i can see the origonal suit clashing with the rest of the mcu stuff.

Not excuseing them for that shitty design up there though

>>87546017
>>87546017
Yeah, but I feel like Jimmy's visual design was trying too hard and I'm being a shit about how butthurt people are toward a design we still haven't seen finalized.

But you do have a point.

>>87546050
im just shocked, i thought i read all his appearances.
is it any good or as bad as it looks?

>>87546102
kek, thats fair man

idk i liked his design, his outfit combined with the weird jaw thing he reminded me of a kinda 60's movie monster

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>>87546104
how the fuck do you miss this

God dammit Marvel you now finally have the good villains in the Marvel universe.
FUCKING USE THEM PROPERLY

>>87546070
If Spidey can wear a spandex suit then Vulture can wear one too. Just needs to get his hands on the material.

>>87546186
i was talkin about the 90's vulture but jesus that sounds dire.

At least it wasnt as bad as bringing back Kraven from the dead then having him do nothing

>>87545921
craig ferguson?

>>87544889
man sam just gave up on life

>>87544889
man couldnt they just make the jacket green

thats all it needs

goddamit

at least we have shocker

>>87546194
maybe i blocked it from my memory, desu i was about 15 when i tracked it all down, andi used the marvel wiki so chances are it just wasnt linked

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>>87546240
Connected to that story, actually. After Lifetheft was Pursuit, in which Chameleon loses his shit because Kraven is dead and tries to become a new Kraven, only for it to be revealed that Harry posthumously set up that and the bit with the clones of the Parker parents just to dick with Spider-Man. Again.

Also, remember the time Kraven's son THE GRIM HUNTER fought Kain in a battle that didn't even involve Spider-Man?

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>>87544889
so does anyone ever scan those concept art books or what?

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>>87545748
Just put him in one of these, except with some military markings on it because apparently that's what they're going for.

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Relevant.

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How does it get worse?

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>>87546483
Never ask.

>>87545673
Is he a big guy?

>>87545875
Explain to me what is so awful about this design

>>87544889
is it awful I like this?

>>87546643
His helmet is lopsided

MCU series has been pretty solid but jeez their villains have almost all been crap

>>87546643
it's not bad, less belts and pouches and it's solid.
Somewhat forgettable but that was most 90 outfits.

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>>87546569
Can this thread just be about Spider-Man Unlimited?

>>87546373
whats the worst bastardization to happen to a spider villain? I still think it was kraven Resurrection or maybe venom into a basic villain

....Not going to lie. I like the look. It looks very WW II style.

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>>87546770
Dunno about worst, but my vote for the best goes to...

>>87545015
Seeing how your 'source material' is a bunch of shitty, overpriced penny dreadfuls, yeah, I would be ashamed too.

>>87546770
I'm sure it's not THAT bad but that story where it's reveald Curt Conners was in control of his lizard form the whole time still rustles me

>>87544889
>it's okay when Marvel does it
>but people will lose their shit if Joker doesn't wear a purple suit

>>87545982
it was also a major plot point in the 90's cartoon

>>87544889

Who cares? All the Marvel villians have been shit so I wasn't expecting anything anyway

>>87545982
dude

>>87546998
Because Joker is a lot more iconic than Vulture. I don't even think people will lose their shit at Joker not wearing a purple suit.

>>87546950
Not ashamed enough to milk it for billions of dollars, of course.

>>87546998
Y'know, I think this "It's okay when Marvel does it" is pretty overblown, especially when it comes to character design, the vast majority of people dislike the bad designs and want to see better, but a few drones defend it and everyone gets lumped together.

>>87544889
Bane?

>>87546483
I actually kind of like it. If this is supposed to be part of the MCU, then having something that looks similar to Sam's set-up makes sense.

And I like the feet claws.

God, he looks like a random goon. Like, Russian mobster #2 random goon!

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>>87547470
For you

>>87545921

The Shadow knows.

>>87547567
Maybe we're lucky and this is just a prototype thing like with Whiplash.

>>87546483

I actually like it here. Mainly because the colors are better.

>>87547667
Oh great! So we get 30 seconds of real Vulture then?

So how is Vulture actually going to be a real threat to MCU's Spider-Man? He was styling all over pretty much anyone that was just "human + gadgets/training" in Civil War.

>>87547736
I think Vulture is Kacelius, a non-threatening first villain so they can instead spend their time setting up Spider-Man and his surroundings and then having a climax villain to fight. Marvel is more focused on making sure people like their heroes and supporting cast instead of liking their villains.

>>87547822

Have there been any other hints of villains for this movie? I haven't been keeping up with things, but I thought it was just Vulture + Tinkerer.

>>87547714
What do you expect from an MCU movie?
They coudln't even get Dormammu right

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>>87546070>>87545015
>>87545879>>87545060

>all these meme posts when it's clearly his mk 1 look and his final look will resemble the concept art

>>87547916
They didn't WANT to get him right. You know why? Cause his design sucks ass.
He looks like a retarded Ghost Rider knockoff that works at the circus.

>>87546483
Wow, they managed to make a worse tacticool costume than Red Falcon. At least I can understand Red Falcon being tacticool since he's part of the military, but this shit has no excuse.

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>>87547878
Shocker most likely a cold opening villain.

I mean, the only thing we kept getting fed bout the film is "LOOK! Spider-Man is in High School!" I bet you the film is just gonna be that.

>>87544889
I like it. But damn they need to slap more green on it. I think any good redesign still has the core elements of the original that make you go "hey it's ___!". I'm more interested about how he'll be able to fight Peter and his team up with Shocker

>>87547736
Vulture has super strength, pal. I see this in just about every discussion about Spider-Man villains to, even like Green Goblin people always seem to be under the impression that it's just a "normal guy with gadgets"

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>>87548620
T. Poser who doesn't read comics

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>>87549732

>>87549783
i only know dormammu because of marvel vs capcom
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdknvX2gey4

>>87549783
I don't see a problem. And even if you were to call that silly, there are plenty of iterations of the character NOT wearing pink jumpsuits but still look like a comic book character, not a generic shit

>>87545673
I genuinely thought this was just more baneposting from the thumbnail. Glad to see I'm not alone.

MCU drones will defend literally anything, don't bother arguing with them. These are the people who said Thor's helmet, Hawkeye's mask, and Cap's mask all were "too stupid to be in live action" and that Ultron couldn't be taken seriously unless he had an "emotive face to relate to".

They're cancer.

>>87550052
I just found>>87549732 post retarded because you have to be like >>87549811 to not understand what outfit they were talking about

>>87546663
No, it's a pretty good design. I guess all the complain goes because he doesn't looks like his original old character?

>>87550150
While I do agree Thor should have his helmet, name one good reason in universe why Hawkeye should wear that mask and not the ultimate look.

>>87550352
Looks cooler

>>87545015
It's the MCU. The villains are only going to be in it for like 5 minutes.

>>87550150
>Ultron couldn't be taken seriously unless he had an "emotive face to relate to".

Show me examples, I don't believe anyone actually holds this opinion other than Hoss Weed Man

>>87545875
That doesn't look bad at all though.

Jesus, what is with you "muh realism" faggots? Everything doesn't have to be black tacticool street clothes.

>>87548390
>all these meme posts when it's clearly his mk 1 look and his final look will resemble the concept art

Keep dreaming, mouseketeer. You're as pathetic as the people thinking Power Rangers is going to have a sequel with the TV cast in the classic suits.

>>87545921
That's supposed to be a vulture? Looks like a lobster or crawfish.

>>87550150
Hawkeye has the easiest outfit to turn into tacticool, fucking t shirt and glasses is stupid

>>87550418
>Show me examples

I don't screen cap every retarded wave of MCU drones when a new movie comes out and people criticize the boring costumes/designs, but they exist....they're the same people who think Dormammu looks good and arguing for it ITT

>>87546998
Because nobody gives a rat's ass about Spider-man's villains.

>>87548765
When did Rhino show up? Was it at the end of one of the Amazing movies? I avoided them all like the plague

>>87550150
Reminder that to this day MCU drones defend the Mandarin twist as being "better than the comics, because Mandarin sucks anyway"

So how do you think Toomes will fight? Hopefully he's displayed clearly stronger than Falcon, along with having better toys at his disposal

>>87550421
>Everything doesn't have to be black tacticool street clothes.
Can you name one MCU costume like you mention?

>>87548620
Dormammu must be really powerful to manage to ripoff a character who wouldn't be created for the next 8 years.

I like how the pilot jacket simulates the vulture neck feathers.

>>87544889
Flying Bane?

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>>87550680

>>87550617
The twist was great the problem was it was followed by shit.

A Mandarin never publicly reveals himself (as the Kingsley character did in Al Qaeda-esque broadcasts), so the twist makes sense.

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>>87550680
batroc

>>87550617
Case in point:
>>87550782

>>87544889
The Bane voice dubs will be fucking hilarious.

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>>87550680
I also like the ones where they just give the signature weapon to the actor without giving them a costume.

Because as we all know, costumes are stupid shit for nerds

>>87550782
Mandarin is an old Asian guy who wields alien rings that have insane abilities. Not a white evil business man who breathes fire pretending to be a British man dressed like an islamic terrorist with a fetish for Chinese decor

It was shit to anybody but a drone or an apologist, which you are, and so you are cancer.

>>87544889
I really like the retarded foot hooks that attach to his boots.

Literally what purpose does that serve?

>>87550880
Let me just go ahead and write >>87550782's post for him, since I know what he's going to say

>Hurrrr but it's an adaptation! They have to change things!
>Mandarin is outdated and (problematic/racist/"cringy"/some other buzzword) so he needed to be changed!
>You didn't like the Mandarin anyway before the movie!

https://youtu.be/D8OpQTpxe8g Check out my friend

>>87550747
>That
>Street clothes

>>87550784
Now this, is street clothes. He wasn't a hero or super villain right?

>>87550877
This is also not a street clothes.

>>87550421
So I guess EVERYTHING DOES NOT USED BLACK TACTICOOL STREET CLOTHES.
What are you complaining again?

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>>87550629
I've been saying, No need to make the vulture suit and falcon suit to be related at all, do people really think that only one person in the world would use a bird design when thinking of a flying suit?

Make vultures a anti-gravity harness like in the comics with a larger harness with jets and shit for good flight across the city. He should be able to detach from the larger(but still kinda arms length) wing harness, (like Redwing coming from falcons backpack or the fantasti-car separating). When he's just in the gravity harness he should have super stength like normal, and maybe some snug field that slows/nulifies high velocity things like say, bullets and webs.

He should be able to hover around and float around kinda, but nut in a high speed way. When he's with the wings he'll manuver very well, and use his other devices like multiple type bombs comic-booky bombs and talons on his gauntlet very well. Pic not realy related

>>87551014
>What are you complaining again?
The MCU having some of the worst adaptations of Superhero costumes in the history of film.

Did you forget so easily?

>>87550877
or maybe the villain wearing a costume didn't fit with the direction of the character and the type of story they were going for. Whiplashes murder was supposed to be a relativly quick assasination of Tony Stark, he needed to sneak into his positon with as little as possible, so just the harness. He wasnt planning on trying to get away. When he was out of jail again he was working on hammers drones and doing extra 24/7 for his kekaiku and was only able to attach his tech to a clunky hollowed out drone. He did the best with what he had, and he's no Tony Stark

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>>87551015
>>87550629
or maybe something like this

>>87550818
Missing my point. The Mandarin should not have been revealed until way into the third act.

"Mandarin" means "adviser to the king", one who wields power from the shadows, and the film should have embraced that idea fully.

>>87551199
>or maybe the villain wearing a costume didn't fit with the direction of the character and the type of story they were going for.

If you're adapting a comic book property and the "direction of the character" and "type of story" means you can't have costumes, you probably shouldn't be making a comic book adaptation at all.

>>87551268
>the whole point is do di the comics "in the real world"
>"Oh my god, they changed this! the whole movie and all the old comics are ruined! How did you even make it through Iron Man 1?

>>87550880
"Mandarin" being a guy who is a very visible villain makes little sense to me, since why the fuck be called a Mandarin then?

Yeah, you could and maybe should have him be Chinese, but not have him be massively visible in "look at me" broadcasts.

He needed to be more shadowy, the Guy Pearce character was not Mandarin-like at all.

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If he wore something like this instead of some generic looking tech helmet then it'd look much better desu

>>87551227
No, the film should have embraced the idea of the actual character fully....you fucking autist.

>>87551317
Iron Man 1 is fucking trash.

>>87551227
Mandarin means a chinaman

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese

They didn't even come close. It was one of the worst adaptations ever.

>>87544889
It's Spider-Man: Homecoming, did you honestly expect anything good?

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>>87551447
>Iron Man 1 is fucking trash

>>87550557
They do, just not F-listers like Vulture

Try and bringing a more relevant villian like Venom or Doc Ock and see what happens

Marvel will eventually screw up Ock anyways because Raimi did it to perfection

>>87551479
I think Spidey Homecoming might be Marvel's first actually bad movie.

It feels less sure-footed than Marvel's other movies.

>>87551520
Vultures easilly put in the C or B-list to them just because he was in the Sinister Six

>>87551058
No, what that poster is complaining (I don't know if you're the same person) is about "muh realism" that everyone wearing black tacticool street clothes.

Which is arguably not true.
You're just trying to divert the subject now.

>>87551528
It's probably going to be extra bad because of Marvel/Disney's overconfidence. It'll sell because it has Spider-Man and sell more because it's in the MCU.

They aren't even going to bother trying to make a good movie, because they don't have to.

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>>87551447
>Iron Man 1 is fucking trash.

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>>87551447
>Iron Man 1 is fucking trash.

what did you just fucking say?

>>87551447
>Iron Man 1 is fucking trash.
/tv/'s contrarian hateboner for the MCU has transcended into revisionist history.

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>>87551520
>They do, just not F-listers like Vulture
Proof you don't read Spider-Man comics, like at all
>Try and bringing a more relevant villian like Venom or Doc Ock and see what happens
They'll ruin it, Marvel refuses to do good villains because that goes against their formula
>Marvel will eventually screw up Ock anyways because Raimi did it to perfection
Raimi fucked up Doc Ock....in every possible way, further proof you don't read comics

>>87551520
Anyone that was on Doc Ock's Sinister Six is not an F-lister. B or C-list at the least.

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>>87544889
This is why I never want to see Taskmaster in a MCU movie

>>87546767
Latino Goblin should be canon on the real

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I've always liked this version.

>>87550747
God I wish they let Clint keep his jacket from AoU, I dug that look. Also like the Civil War one.

>>87544889
/co/ hates.
Even on at the concept stage /co/ will whinge and complain about how a movie won't be good.
Even at the idea stage!
Movie company states that it'll make (insert title here) and five minutes later /co/ will bitch and moan bout how that's wrong.

Every fucking time!

>>87545921
He looks like a lobster

>>87544889
>>87546483
Honestly I dig this design, atleast in the second pic where the wings are larger which gives the feel that he is more powerful than Falcon. Sure it could have had more green to it but it could be much worse. Also what this guy said: >>87550696

>>87546373
Based Kaine to the rescue best spider.

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>>87545748
This is pretty much perfect.

>>87557478
Web of Shadows?

>>87557493
Yep

>>87551447
>Mandarin means a chinaman

>The English word "mandarin" (from Portuguese mandarim, from Malay menteri, from Sanskrit mantrin, meaning "minister or counsellor") originally meant an official of the Ming and Qing empires

You fucking moron.

>>87546767
I loved that guy.

>>87544889
If I take those off, will you fall?

>>87548650
>Toomes created Falcons jet pack.

Here you go.

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>>87549783

>>87544889
They could have at least made the jacket green.

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>>87557511
>originally meant an official of the Ming and Qing empires

So, a Chinaman, then. Good show, old fruit!