Doctor Strange: Ive come to Bargain Edition

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>>87540256
I hope we see more of him with his better design.

>>87540281
But he pretty much was that already, except his head was rippling energy instead of fire. You could still make out his body

>>87540303
I need the fire, man. I need it bad. Without the ripples too.

>>87540303
You could see a little fire too but we were too zoomed in to see it all

>>87540256
I really could have done without you guys repeating that line to death before I had the chance to see Strange do it.

>>87540256
I'm extremely dense, how exactly did he time loop himself again? Dormammu wasn't affected by it because he exists outside of time?

>>87541309
The Eye has the Infinity Stone of Time in it. Dormammu is outside of time, so Strange looped himself so Dormammu had someone constantly annoying him despite dying a lot.

>>87541309
Was Dormammu affected by it? The time loop was odd because it seemed that Strange himself was and was not affected.

I'd hazard that Dormammu was not, yet I'm on the fence about Strange being aware of each death. He did imply he was when talking about having to endure the pain.

I'm glad that, so far, I haven't seem too much fighting. Some arguing about magic in a thread yesterday but I think it ended peacefully enough. Thread hit autosage so maybe the people who disagreed stopped posting. It wasn't even really consensus anyway. I'm interested whether Asgardian magic (not their super advanced technology but the powers shown by Lady Frigga and Loki) use the same "source code of the universe." They aren't seen to write their spells in the air but manipulation of reality is, I think, a large part of what they do. They can do it with machines or a few of them have other abilities. It's not all illusions. When Frigga appeared to Loki in his cell she was projecting her consciousness. Loki did the same to talk to The Other, but he was using the staff with an Infinity Stone/Gem.

>>87541370
The funny thing is I can't figure out why Dormammu kept bothering with Strange. He had an entire realm to fuck around in, or could have (I guess?) popped onto Earth and started fucking shit up. It wasn't like Strange was really his prison.

It seemed like the reason he was fixated on Strange is because Strange was something IN his very own realm doing things against Dormammu's will. Strange is like a dog that just took a shit on Dormammu's carpet. Sure Dormammu could go play vidja games or hop in the car to get some chicken wings and a prostitute but there is STILL shit on his carpet. His whole day was ruined. Worse still, this is no ordinary piece of shit. Every time he tries to kamehameha it into ash the damn thing just reappears.

>>87541309
The way i undestood dormammu was affected by the loop, but because he normally exists outside of time, he was aware that something was off.

>>87540256
>literally Galactus but now it's from Marvel studios so it's good

>>87540256
He's literally THE strongest MCU villain (for now; Thanos might be stronger with the Infinity Stones).

Even Loki and Hive are nothing compared to Dormammu.

>>87542579
This is correct. It's why he repeated "You've come to die!" before figuring it out.

>>87542600
>He doesn't know Dormammu precedes Galactus by two years

>>87543052
Dormammu is now a world-eater represented through cosmic energy instead of his classic design, a wizard with a flaming head.
He's MCU's Galactus alright.

>>87543309
His goal was always to merge Earth's dimension into the Dark Dimension, but yeah, they took the lame way out, I hope he has a physical form more akin to his traditional look next time he shows up.

>>87543309
According to the director and Benny Cummerbund they decided to do a take where Dormammu is formless in his own dimension and was appearing as a kind of mirror to Strange (which is why Benny wanted to voice him) instead of him appearing as a spooky goblin man. If Dormammu appears on Earth he'd have a physical form as a manifestation. In his own realm he's just energy.

http://www.cinemablend.com/news/1577629/benedict-cumberbatch-reveals-why-he-had-to-play-that-other-doctor-strange-role

>>87542536
dormammu was stuck in the loop too

>>87542536
Are you retarded?

>>87544099
What's wrong, anon? Did Doctor Strange take a temporal shit on your carpet too?

>>87543309

Dormammu is not a wizard

>>87543902
Not totally. If it were a true time loop they would have just acted out the same pattern over and over again forever. Dormammu was fully aware of repeating events.

>>87544294
The point was to get him to fuck off, not sacrifice himself.

>>87544493
Who said it wasn't? Or are you suggesting that Stephen wrote the time spell specifically to allow Dormammu awareness he was stuck as opposed to Dormammu's innate timelessness giving him perception of how he was being manipulated?

In the comics, does ancient one really draw energy from dark dimension?

>>87544544
Was strange fully aware that he was looping? Like was it full groundhogg day and he has lived through every death. Or does he remember only the final loop where Dormammu gives in?

>>87544696
He seemed to be, but it could, I guess, still have been the fact that he was aware of the loop prior to activating it and playing off of what Dormammu was saying.

I prefer to think they were both aware, but I don't know. Like Dormammu being caught up in it. Doctor Strange brought an alien presence, time, into Dormammu's timeless domain and wrote the spell physically on his own arm. It suggests that the spell was on himself as opposed to having somehow installed time into the entire realm or even forced it on Dormammu.

Fuck if I know, though. It could, arguably, go either way. Regardless it still worked.

>>87544781
I'd add to this that there is a greater element of struggle/sacrifice if Strange is aware of each of his deaths and the pain of them before the time loop restores him. That way he'd have to endure potentially days, weeks, months, YEARS of Dormammu's frustrations. It's a greater heroic triumph than if he was blissfully unaware and the entire struggle was, from his perspective, just a few seconds long.

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>>87540281
>>87540303
>>87540332
I actually didn't mind the look for him in this film, since it was his complete form in the Dark Dimension. But it would be cool if he had a different form should he manifest physically on Earth at some point.

Is that possible what with the arrangement at the end of this film? I just watched it yesterday, and I haven't thought of any loopholes that could allow him to as of yet.

>>87544937
Dormammu finds a way around the Eye's time warp and breaks the agreement.

>>87540256
It was a shitty villain, we barely saw him or had any real reason to fear/hate him. The second he starts to pose a real threat, Doctor Strange's first and only plan works flawlessly. You'd think that Dormammu, as strong as he is, could break free from a simple fucking time loop.

>>87545703

INFINITY GEMS

>>87545738
and this is my problem with the marvel movies, everything is explained away via mcguffins or "they'll get to it later," they never take the time to establish things (like Dormmamu or the full power of the time gem).

Am I in the minority here in thinking that this movie was actually kind of lame? The environment effects were fucking amazing and the fights were pretty much the best part of the movie.

But everything else was so by the numbers Marvel movie that it just took me right out of it.

The entire scene with the "ghost" fight was probably the most corny thing ever. It felt like a fucking cartoon. How it made it into the movie and no one said otherwise is beyond me.

And not to mention that Strange is pretty much the exact same character as Tony Stark personality wise. For fucks sake he was still making sarcastic quips when he was huddled over and holding his hands in front of him like a homeless man.

>>87540256
>>87540281
seeing them side by side actually supports the movie version a bit more, I can actually kinda see the face

>>87545703
>villain is neutered just the second before he starts being a villain
sasuga Marvel

>>87545784
what? they tell you all about Dormmamu throughout the entire movie and they explicitly show the powers of the Time Gem before his encounter with Dormmamu

literally what more do you need

>>87545843
Strange is a lot like Tony Stark in the comics and has been for awhile

But Strange is a lot more internal in his arrogance. He isn't a playboy, he's an elitist. I think Benedict portrayed that rather well.

>>87545843
>Am I in the minority here in thinking that this movie was actually kind of lame
you're in the minority pretty much everywhere, even /tv/ thinks its good

>>87545937
right, they just TELL us about Dormammu, never show us anything. The most powerful thing any of his followers do is bomb a building, and its not even that powerful of an explosion. And we see the time gem used to, what, reverse an apple and some pages? They never set up it can do a time loop or how powerful it is in relation to anything, and if it was that powerful why didnt he undo the death of the Ancient One or undo everything else that happened?

>>87546124
His followers are already shown to be exceptionally powerful. Just the ability to drop people into the Mirror Dimension. Do that to Iron Man or Cap and they can't do shit. Do that to the Hulk and maybe, if they're going totally walk happy, he can SMAAAASH his way through the dimensional barrier. I mean fuck that, but you never know they could do something like that.

Thor, well, magic hammer, right? Less ridiculous if Thor or Wanda does it.

>>87546124
They tell us that Dormammu wants to absorb the Earth, then show him begin doing that. Short of him succeeding completely, I'm not sure what more you want. Dormammu absorbing some other planet? Just to prove he could? We don't need that.

As for time-travel, Strange is warned explicitly that performing the ritual could open Earth up to destruction, which is why he doesn't try it until the Earth is already in the process of being wrecked. Nothing to lose then.

>>87545843

I agree that there were some very corny - almost cringeworthy- moments but it's a MCU movie. That's they're style. So as a MCU movie, it was pretty good. As a movie on it's on, it was ok.

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>>87546227
>Strange is warned that using the eye has consequences
>Mordo says that they will face danger because of Strange's abuse of it
>That danger is Thanos knowing that another gem is on earth
Dude barely has to go anywhere to find these things.

>>87546355
>not liking the corniness
sometimes you have to embrace it

I hope you don't find my question too stupid, but I am a newfag to Doctor Strange. I had seen the movie over the weekend, and now I want to know what comics should I start reading? The movie really piqued my interest, especially the end credit scenes.

>>87545843
Ya, it was weird how they just spliced in some scenes from the The Frighteners.

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>>87546565
this is a good start. the oath and triumph & torment i can personally recommend.

>>87544693
I don't recall so, but to be fair it has been a while.

Strange used to call upon Dormammu as a source of power back in the comics though. That was before he really knew the nature of the being he was borrowing power from. That might have been a nod to that plot.

>>87544693

in the comics TAO is pretty much the stereotypical wise asian master. TOA was immortal, but technically isn't really dead. Just moved onto another existence. Doctor Strange has already reached that level of immortality back in like 1974.

>>87540281
4chan is actually retarded for wanting the pumpkinhead visage that anyone other than an idiot would think is a joke because Aspergers.

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>>87548744
Why are you surprised people were hoping to see some version closer to the comics? People were pleased as shit when the Celestials showed up, after all. So they're disappointed when it doesn't happen.

>>87545843
Yes you are. I agree though. The movie was mediocre at best.

While we're arguing over some of the plot points in the movies, I have a non-Doctor Strange query. In Civil War was Crossbones working with Zemo? I don't mean a partner but was Zemo using him early on? That one has always bugged me a bit.

>>87549278
Pretty much this. I'm starting to get annoyed how much the MCU is starting to lose the "straight out of the page" feeling it once had. Sure, there are alterations, but their designs usually are on point.

>>87541309
Think of time as a virus.
Dormammu exists in a plane of existence without any exposure to time. He's got no immune system against it. So Strange brings time in and infects Dormammu with time. Dormammu can't do shit against it.

>>87546355
They're better when they are aware they are making movies based on comic books. They don't have to go nuts with it, necessarily, but they shouldn't get so full of themselves they forget they're still comic stories.

>>87549324
I never got the impression that he was. I think crossbones was just doing his own thing.

>>87549349
They've always been streamlining and cutting corners where they could. I wonder, though, what pisses people off more? That they Eye of Agamotto is an Infinity Stone or that it is the TIme one instead of the Soul?

Probably the latter. People have been betting on the Eye being one probably since before it made a brief cameo in Odin's treasure vault.

>>87549278
>>87549349
I think I read somewhere in /co/ that the Marvel Comics' committee were the frontrunners when it came to pushing comic accuracy, but since they aren't around anymore I wouldn't be surprised if MS started to take more liberties with their adaptations.

>>87549324
Why would Crossbones be working with Zemo?

>>87549426
>since before it made a brief cameo in Odin's treasure vault.
That fucking Odin's vault. Why does it have to dominate so many fan theories?

>>87549394
I can see why people want to make that connection, at least. Otherwise Crossbones' buyer is never really dealt with and that part of the plot is just over and done with, conveniently set aside for the larger plot it served as an excuse to kicking off.

Plus there are some interesting coincidences. Both Zemo and Rumlow push the Bucky button on Cap and Zemo later bombs the Accords ceremony that only occurred because of what happened with Crossbones. Also if you're Zemo, ex-intelligence officer with enough intricate knowledge on both the Avengers and Hydra, setting Crossbones after Cap is actually a pretty good gambit. I'm sure he doesn't want a bio-weapon but if he wants to hurt the Avengers and figures the world will put the brakes on them if they screw up, well, it all plays into Zemo's hands perfectly. Rumlow was pretty keen on going after Cap the first excuse he got and he was pissed enough to try to take them both down. Hell, if Zemo was Rumlow's buyer to set up this event I wouldn't put it past him to then tip off the Avengers just to make sure these two came head to head.

Plus I guess it makes Zemo's "win" against the Avengers more significant? Either way I can imagine Crossbones at this point wouldn't mind having a cameo in Thor the Dark World in Hel laughing at the Avengers. He may not have killed Cap but he still managed to fuck them over.

>>87549537
That is kind of worrisome. I mean, there's already the continuity issue with "where does Dr. Strange take place" as we see Avengers tower at the start and we know Sitwell knew about Strange.

>>87549426
I'm sightly annoyed the Eye is a gem because it means there's a possibility it could be rendered unusable after Thanos steals it, but aside that I'm completely OK with both he Eye and the Time Gem.

The fact the mages barely, if never, actually said a spell is what annoyed me the most from the movie. I think the little whip Stranged conjured were the Bands of Cyttorak and man, if they were that's so lame.

Did anyone else not like this scene? I mean, I like the concept of the whole bargaining thing, but I don't think it was executed with the appropriate weight and emotion needed for any cinematic climax.

>>87549564
I imagine because Zemo posed as a buyer to kickstart a scenario where there were good odds of a major catastrophe and loss of life to fuck with the Avengers. Crossbones can basically be played like a piece on a chessboard. Plus all the shit here >>87549598

>>87549645
I hope not because imagine what that might mean for Vision! Hopefully Vision doesn't NEED the stone to live and maybe they can create a substitute to still give him his powers.

>>87541109
Same. But it was still a treat to finally have context for the line. The way it was spammed, you'd think it was a bad line that sticks out, not the best part of the whole movie.

I kind of assumed that if Dormamm ufully possesses someone they'll get the flame head. I mean, channeling his power is a burning brand and his acoyltes start getting crispy around the eyes.

>>87549537
At the very least this seems to have been the directors call, and it was something they specifically justified as Dormammu being formless within his own realm.

I kind of agree with it as a thematic choice even though it reduces Dormammu to playing a foil to Strange. Is that a big deal? Probably not. Besides, it would also mean that Strange is a foil to Dormammu. The door swings both ways, right Egon? Dormammu represents the pure egotistical self-centered side of Strange that would abuse his powers for himself if he doesn't strive to be a better man.

>>87549658
It has more impact in terms of the character arc than an actual win would and better preserves the strength level of the threat.

So they introduced a big bad that is stronger and has a clearer motive than Thanos.

I think they fucked themselves over from the very end of the 1st Avengers. They introduced this vague threat they didn't really think about, but now have to pay off

Most of the Directors and writers avoid Thanos like the plague at all cost. His design is shit and his voice is and dialogue is Saturday Morning Cartoon tier

>>87549349
>In this thread /co/ literally bitches about Dormammu's head not being the right color.

>>87549658
Not really. It was a nice change of pace from the from the other movies. In fact, I think this kind of resolution suits Dr. Strange a lot more than an ebin fistpunch final battle, though I wouldn't mind it if that had been the case.

>>87549756
I get that. I get that we have Strange prepared to sacrifice himself time and time again. Sure, it technically ends his character arc in this movie, but I still feel that point could've been put across with more weight.

Plus the whole lack of stakes and meaningfulness but I won't get into that right now.

>>87549796
>implying Dormammu is more powerful than Infinity Gauntlet Thanos
Nah.

>>87549845
>lack of stakes
The Earth was literally merging with the Dark Dimension. These were the highest stakes a Marvel movie ever had.

>>87549860
Implying I said infinity gauntlet thanos

That is true with anyone. Rocket Raccoon is more powerful than anyone else.

Base level Thanos isn't anywhere near as strong and we still don't know what the hell he wants to do once he gets the stones.

>>87549819
After the film, I showed my friend what Dormammu looked like in the comics, and he admits it's a much better design. The film's look really was lame.

>>87549860
Only, and I repeat, ONLY if Thanos also had the Thanos Copter.

Seriously, though, just be happy if Thanos doesn't job like his comic version. They can happily make that part different from the comics.

>>87549827
I don't disagree with you. The idea of it is very interesting. What I'm saying is that the scene could've been executed better.

>>87549892
In theory, sure. But there's no reason I'm shown that would cause me to really care.

When the world is at stake everytime, no one gives a shit. The movie needs to show me some real, practical, perhaps personal reasons to invest in the movies stakes.

>>87549709
I just had an idea. What if they brought back Mads as a sort of avatar for Dormammu in the regular world, and he had the classic Dormammu appearance, with Mads' voice mixed in with the other two?

>>87540256
they're gonna make him like galactus

>>87549919
You show any normie a flaming head and they'll eat that shit up and 9/10 mistake then for ghost rider. Despite the changes, it's still very faithful to the original design. Only major difference is he's not a jack o lantern. They might have changed it because Surtur is coming and can't handle more than one flaming evil entity

>>87550002
In this election year (I don't care who anyone supports) destruction of the world seems like a blessing.

DORMAMMU 2016! The Timeless Dark Demonic Conquerer we all deserve!

>>87549941
>Thanos decends to earth on a high tech space helicopter
DO IT MARVEL

>>87549917
The difference is that we all know Thanos will get the Infinity Gauntlet while Dormamu, or any other villain 'till the end of phase 4 for the matter, won't.

So, implying Dormammu's existence makes Thanos look less of a threat is completely wrong. His status as the Final Boss of the MCU is still believable. I don't know if you read comics, but in Starlins' Thanos stories he's always against super powerful cosmic entities many more times stronger than him and somehow (via keikaku) getting on top the food chain, so, even if that were the case Thanos' might wouldn't be compromised at all.

> and we still don't know what the hell he wants to do once he gets the stones.
Are you seriously complaining because Marvel hasn't spoiled themselves?

If anything it'll be getting senpai to notice him. You should know this already.

>>87549917
>don't know what he'll do with the stones
Same thing he always does, try and bone Death what else? Who might I add should look full dio del los muertos sexy. Maybe cast Eva Greene, I don't know

>>87550002
The fact that you can't "feel" them doesn't meant there weren't any at all. Your statement was factually wrong.

And anyways, they did say what would happen to the earth and showed one part of the Manhattan shrine being absorbed into the Dark Dimension. You just couldn't get immersed.

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>>87550082
Only if Spider-Man gets to show up in the Spider-Mobile

>>87550204
Fine, maybe there was some reason, but it wasn't good enough nor was it executed well enough to get me to give a shit. This is, of course, my own opinion.

Clearly, I wasn't a big fan of the movie, I thought it was pretty mediocre.

>>87545843
>Am I in the minority here in thinking that this movie was actually kind of lame?

Nah, it was a bog-standard Marvel origins story script with really good visuals.

Fucking hell, those visuals. I'm not sure I could have handled that in IMAX.

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>>87550511
H O M E C O M I N G

>>87545843
It was a fine Doctor Strange adaptation, but it was a bland origin story that felt underwritten. It joins Thor 2 in the realm of "MCU movies I'll probably only watch once"

>>87549324
No I think Crossbones just created a situation that Zeno took advantage of

>>87550666
Well you would know, Satan.

>>87550666
That's possible too. Though I can see him manipulating the earlier events. It's the kind of thing he would do. Zemo very much prefers using people against each other and fueling their psychology of hatred.

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>>87546124
strange sees dormammu on his first vision trip

literally

https://youtu.be/D8OpQTpxe8g Please check it dudes!

>>87551057
nah

>>87550997
>a screaming face in the dark dimension, heh, nice shout out to dormammu
>turns to actually be dormammu
Really made me think.

haaaaalf in the baaaaag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwlzbpzyFdE

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I thought the design for him was really fucking cool... and this is coming from someone who genuinely likes the source material. I think everyone would be complaining how shitty he looked if it was closer to the comics. Hes compared to galactus and parrallax but if Galactus was a big galactus head that was made of energy and shit moving a mile a minute it would've been 1000x cooler. Its not like they cant make his form different outside of the dark dimension. I usually can get aboard the /co/ shitstorm train but this is something just absurd to get mad about. After suicide squad and BvS making me want to never see a movie in theater again this year Doctor Strange was fucking palate cleanser.

>>87551165
I came here to bargain at you.

>>87545843
>And not to mention that Strange is pretty much the exact same character as Tony Stark personality wise
I don't see that because I see them using their, eh, let's call it snark - they use their snark as defense mechanisms but they also use it differently. Tony is almost manic most of the time. Stephen has a detached arrogance.

Both often think they know best. Tony is the futurist, but sees events as chaotic and hard to govern though he tries. Stephen just feels he's smarter and somehow beyond everyone and everything around him.

And unlike Stark, whose antics are a source of irritation for those around him, Stephen's is seen in a more negative light. It's the same attitude that caused him to ignore the pain and suffering of people he could have helped because he didn't find their case interesting enough, or not enough to further his career. I don't think he'll ever stop making light of situations but at the same time I think he'll keep struggling to find something that grounds him, keeps him humble and allows him to see people as people instead of problems or challenges.

>>87540281
I don't know, I kind of like the movie version.

>>87548744
Are you kidding? People eat the whole "Flame Demon" thing up.

>>87552395
>Hey look it's ghost rider!

>>87549845
>Plus the whole lack of stakes and meaningfulness
You idiots have officially made the concept of "stakes" a meaningless codeword for "I did or did not like it".

>>87544937
>I actually didn't mind the look for him in this film, since it was his complete form in the Dark Dimension. But it would be cool if he had a different form should he manifest physically on Earth at some point.
I had the same thought. The only thing that annoyed me is the implications what happened to Kaecilius and his zealots has on the possibility of the Dark Dimension's other denizens. I want Clea, goshdarnit!

So. After the first credits scene, Is Doctor Stranger confirmed in Thor: Ragnarok?

>>87552412
Ghost Rider isn't the size of a skyscraper. Besides, if you can have War Machine running around without people getting it confused with Iron Man, Dormammu Fire version should be fine.

So who wants to see Strange completely confuse the hell out of Stark?

>>87552578
You greatly underestimate people's stupidity, anon.

>>87552539
They considered her in the movie Palmer because they wanted Strange's lady friend to be someone who brings him back to Earth and normalcy, whereas Clea is a far more mystical character. I'd say Clea is definitely happening down the line.

>>87552594
I'm expecting Stark to bully and make fun of Strange solely because of his last name.

>>87552573
He is indeed. In fact I've read that the mid-credits is like the one in Ant-Man. It's not so much a connection as it's a clip.

I love how despite all the talk of the gods in the MCU being just aliens and all their amazing abilities are just technology and yet Thor shows absolutely zero fucks about wizards on Earth. Like, "Oh, you guys are here too now."

>>87552578
You real underestimate the stupidity of casuals when it comes to these things. What we got was actually a decent compromise. Fuck sake they even went full Ditko with dimensions

>>87550002
>In theory, sure. But there's no reason I'm shown that would cause me to really care.
Besides the characters established in the movie itself, and all the rest of the characters in this world that is the same one that all the other MCU characters inhabit? WTF are you even talking about man.

>>87552634
He's probably on about the music not being sad and there not being a feel depressed blue tint to everything.

>>87552618
Ah c'mon, we need at least one moment where Stark shits his pants seeing something he can't explain. He may be able to rationalize Thor's hammer, but I doubt he can explain an out of body experience

>>87552677
>well, that was strange *wink wink*

>>87552676
Kek

>>87549645
I just saw the movie today, about the only real letdown in that regard for me was "The Staff of the Living Tribunal". When you know what role the Living Tribunal actually plays in Marvel Continuity, the fact that he'd slap his name on a multi-sectional staff just kind of seems like the Higher Being equivalent of cheap brand licensing.

>>87550054
The only real complaint I have about Dormammu isn't nitpicking about the color of his head or the formlessness of his body. Instead what bugged me was that his head looked like a cave troll. I kind of wished that they'd gone for a less "Blizzard-Activision" kind of look, because the neon-black psychedelic phase-shifting look was actually pretty cool.

>>87549796
MCU Thanos has only been relevant in GOTG, and that was when he played a strictly ancillary role. Apparently the events of Civil War were supposed to factor in to his grand plan to steal the Infinity Gems and woo Death, but it's completely unclear how. The best we get is grumpy Thanos going all "I'll do it myself" and storming off. I bet the next Thanos teaser is him getting stuck in space traffic on the way to Earth.

>>87552760
>I bet the next Thanos teaser is him getting stuck in space traffic on the way to Earth.
Perfect way to introduce the Thanos copter

>>87550022
God I hope this happens.

>>87552760
>Cave troll
The hell are you smoking?

>>87546039
>even /tv/ thinks its good
No fucking way. Really? I haven't been to /tv/ in ages. That sure made me smile.

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>>87552796
The end of credits stinger for Infintiy War Part II better be a cop filling out pic related.

In fact, the entire MCU better just be a lead-up to this joke, because it will be the best thing ever.

>>87552827
Can you not read anon? The 3D model for his face was squat and ugly, and he had a giant broad nose. The color and the the phase-shifting effects were cool as hell, but damn he looked like either a Cave troll or a model from Warcraft.

>>87552500
I think that Anon wanted to point out how the stakes had next to no really worth. Sure something was sorta at risk, but no one really cares about that.

>>87552634
You're joking right? Can you seriously not understand that Anons point? Are you even hearing yourself, you daft fucker?

>>87549645
The Eye isn't. It just contains in. Presumably because The Eye of Agomotto is one of the few things powerful enough to contain an infinity stone's power.

>>87550022
That'd be nice, considering how underused he was in this one.

>>87552985
>source: your ass

>>87552960
That anon's point was originally wrong, and when he clarified what he meant by it, his explanation was stupid.

>>87553018
Either he's right and the Eye is a thing on its own that can contain an Infinity Gem, or it's "just" there to keep the user from unmaking themself as they fuck with time.

>>87552997
I think I liked Kaecilius not because he was a great character, but definitely because Mads was a great actor. It'd be nice to have him play Dormammu or an avatar of Dormammu.

I doubt there are any plans to do anything with the character though.

>>87553049
There's a possibility the Eye will turn out to be extremely powerful on its own, but as far as we know it draws its power from the Time Gem.

>>87553067
Same.

Kaecilius was a mediocre character and died like a bitch, but Madds sold him to me.

So is there a good rip yet or am I just gonna wait for the bluray like usual?

>>87553043
anon c'mon you can't be that dense

>>87553141
I'm not. The point was bad, and you should feel bad.

>>87552634
>same world as other MCU characters
That's a good reason why nothing too crazy can happen here, especially nothing as crazy as the destruction of our universe as we know it since we know a lot more is coming in the MCU. You must understand that, right?

>>87553099
I had kind of the same deal with Tilda Stinson Ancient One. I'll admit to liking the 616 version infinitely more, and that it's a NOTMUH reaction since early Dr. Strange was literally the first superhero I ever read, but she grew on me. Since the 616 Ancient One gave no fucks about dying, I'd like to see her return. In part because her fan-style was legitimately cool and in part because I ship it.

However, Wong ended up being a jobber and Mordo's character arc seemed a bit forced. I think they're setting him up as a rival or a villain, but this Mordo just does not work well as an outright villain.

>>87553165
Yknow what pisses me off, anon? When we have the rare person here who shares their decently thoughtful opinions in a respectful manner only for it to be ridiculed and misconstrued by retards and shills. Maybe try to fucking engage in a somewhat educated discussion? Christ.

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>>87545843
>The entire scene with the "ghost" fight was probably the most corny thing ever. It felt like a fucking cartoon. How it made it into the movie and no one said otherwise is beyond me.
Fun fact, the director landed the job because he made a 90 minute pitch (which included storyboards, concept art and an animatic he paid for himself) of that scene.

>>87553436
I actually like the idea, specifically that Strange is part of a secretive hidden world.

If anything was cartoonish, it was a few of the names:
>Sling Ring
>Mirror Dimension
>"Relics" being an equipment class

Don't get me wrong, it's all good cheesy fun, but cheese can blur into cringe and vice-versa.

>>87553297
>When we have the rare person here who shares their decently thoughtful opinions
Don't flatter yourself.

>>87550002
There were stakes. You just didn't feel/like them. That doesn't mean it's not a "stake" or that other viewers didn't feel them as stakes.

Basically, you turned your personal opinion to a fact.

And yeah i get what you're feeling. It felt a bit less grand (or muted?) compared to other MCU movies, but I liked it though.

>>87553510
Yeah, I thought the "sling ring" name was pretty bad too. I mean, just call it a ring or give it some obscure name, put some effort on it.

>>87545843
i agree completely man, and I think anyone who is trying to say he isnt Stark is projecting a bunch of desperate head canon

>>87553510
>>87553804
Yeah I didn't like the Sling Ring name too.I found the cloak kinda cheesy too

>>87553835
While watching, I didn't really think about Stark. Sure they're both arrogant, now that I think of it, but Stark seemed too sleazy and trashy and jock-ish, while Strange is an elitist asshole who can even barely flatter women.

>>87546227
>Dormammu absorbing some other planet? Just to prove he could? We don't need that.

Yes we do, they did in Star Wars and it was effective. They do it in Lord of the Rings (showing us the extent of Sauron's forces) and its effective. Just telling us he is a big bad and having them blow up a single building OFF SCREEN doesn't make him a threat. All we ever saw was him partially eat a city before it being regurgitated in the next scene.

There were no consequences except for Tilda Swinton dying.

>>87554226
>There were no consequences except for Tilda Swinton dying.
Losing Mordo, the highest ranking living member of the Order, is a consequence. And one that actually matters.

So would Shield or HYDRA know about these Sanctums

>>87554226
>there were no consequences except for this consequence

Their cult are kind of in shambles, lots of their kind killed, and Mordu probably out there murdering more of them.

>>87554411
>So would Shield or HYDRA know about these Sanctums
One assumes that HYDRA does not, as if they did they 100% would have declared war on the Sanctums first and foremost for the power they possess.

Hey folks,

first time poster here so pls be gentle,

can you recommend any Dr. Strange comic arcs that would be less about LOLSORANDOM PSYCHEDELIC and more about systematic, thought-through magic and occultism, and had nice plot twists like the movie ending?

>>87542384
If I remember well, in one of interviews for Thor 2, it was confirmed that Loki and Frigg are using actual magic.

Now that I think about it, Asgardians, Dark Elves, and Frost Giants are basically using Artifacts (Mjollnir, Gungnir, Casket of Ancient Winters; probably Kurse Stones too) and Magic (Loki and Frigg, for example) alongside advanced technology.