Spidey and Batman swap universes

>>87516514
Batman, easily. His archenemy has gone from being a psycho clown to an evil version of himself.
Shocker was able to effortlessly blast Punisher off into the horizon in one shot.
The majority of Spider-Man's villains are deadlier and have access to more resources than the majority of Batman's.
Spidey would be pretty fukt, but not much more than he usually is.

>>87516514
Spiderman is literally a superhuman, so I reckon he could probably toe to toe with Bane.
How would Venom feel about all of Bruce's repressed emotions?

I think it would pretty funny to see Joker trying to mouth off to Spidey only to be hurled through a wall once he went too far.

>>87516666
>Joker and Spider-man quipping at eachother.
>Joker gets angry and tries to go grimdark
>Spider-Man goes serious-mode and mangles Joker.

Spidey would fix Gotham. Not just improve things, he'd sort out the Arkham regulars overnight.

>>87516514
Bats would be fucked because his new villains would on the whole much more powerful than the old ones, and he doesn't have any of Spidey's superpowers to compensate.

Spidey might still not have an easy time though. Even though he's strong enough to handle pretty much all of Bats' villains with ease, they also tend to be more ruthless than Spidey's villains and are more inclined to go for civilian casualties instead of just robbing banks and shit.

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>>87516762
That is probably how it would go. Joker /hates/ having a complementary enemy.

Most of Batman's villains are mentally ill. I think Peter would have an issue going all out on them even if he needed to. He's used to his villains being bad because they like it.

Would Peter be able to help Fries come up with a cure for his wife?
Seems like thats the only reason he does crime, as a means to an end.

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>>87516846
joker would thus be laid out within moments

>>87516869
Wait, so- what exactly are all the parallels?

>>87516642
>he could probably toe to toe with Bane.
Spidey could easily beat the brakes off Bane.

>>87516869
Ras and the Lizard parallel?

I don't get that one

>>87516866
Depends on how old the Spider-Man in question is.

>>87516975
Old mentor gone evil I guess

>>87516912
Way I see it
>Main guy
>secondary main guy
>smart guy
>sometimes ally chick
>fire guy
>crime guy
>mindfuck guy
>surprisingly well armed petty criminal guy
>spooky minfuck guy
>vampire guy
>bullet guy
>evil complement to powers guy
>annoyance guy
>actual super powered guy

...wow theres actually a lot on there.
someone pick up on this.

>>87516514
We already had this scenario.

It's called Batman Beyond

>>87516514
Electro would destroy Batman.

>>87516514
Who is BatShocker?
When was Scarecrow ever a Spidey villain?
Why the flying fuck are Poison Ivy & Electro next to each other?

>>87516514
>Shocker paired with Electrocutioner

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>>87516666
>>87516762
And them Joker kills aunt May with a crowbar.

:D

"Who is laughting now spidey?"

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>>87517017
>secondary main guy
>Lizard

>>87516975
>>87517001
They also have similar motives and ways of operating with their League of Shadows/Lizard Poeple shit.

>>87517073
I'm not OP, but, I can answer-
BatShocker is called the Electrocutioner ("Batman has the best rogues' gallery!!!!!11!!")
Spider-Man occasionally fought a guy called Scarecrow. He used to be a Ghost Rider villain. His powers were supernatural.
I don't know that last one.

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>>87517105
Dude.

>>87517105
Yeah, just like all the times Joker killed Alfred with a crowbar.

????

>>87517125
In hindsight, maybe >>87517001 's idea of
>old mentor guy
is probably better

>>87516514
A better question would be how long it takes the other to adapt in their new universes, Bat's might have a bit of while before he can really get a grasp, but could Spidey go in without giving into the insanity that is the Batman universe, what is to stop him from becoming a villain under the right circumstances?

>>87517215
Batman is kinda reliant on the wide spread accessibility of Wayne tech, so dumping him in NYC may be an issue.
But also, Spidey has the people of NYC to fall back onto, whereas Gotham is basically ALL criminals all the time.

>>87517017
>Rage issues guy
>Powerhouse guy
>Psycho guy
>throwing things petty criminal
>
>Low tier smart ass in colorful costume
>Mafia guy
>
>Rogue guy
>Undead guy
-I know them but I dont see the relation
>Killer but not totally evil versions of the heroes

>>87517243
Would Spidey be able to form a relationship with Commissioner Gordon or the Gotham police force? Spidey has always been a real solo kind of hero, though I think he might be more willing to team up or look the other way with the likes of Catwoman or even Mr. Freeze.

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>>87516514
Batman

Who would be Spiderman's JJ in Gotham?

>>87517017
>>Main guy
Isn't Luthor Sups main guy?

>>87517386
Bruce Wayne.

>>87516912
>ethical antithesis of hero
>commander of bad guy army
>smart "nothin' personnel" guy
>morally ambiguous female villain
>firepower guy
>behind-the-scenes manipulator
>mindfucker
>amorphous/shapeshifting monster
>butt monkey/joke villain
>creepy mindfucker
>vampire
>gun/mercenary guy
>evil opposite to hero
>secondary creepy mindfucker
>high power guy who can tear the most shit up
>tragic villain
>the brute
>edgelord
>boomerangs
>speed demon
>gadgeteer
>mobster
>joke villain turned genuine threat
>absolute edgelord
>supernatural monster
>identity thief
>anti-hero/anti-villain with personal connection to hero

>>87517385
"That pointy eared miscreant is a Menace! A MENACE I SAY! Where the hell is Parker? I want photos of this caped freak on my desk Yesterday!"

>>87517385
Exactly. No way would Batman be able to withstand the incessant trolling of J. Jonah Jameson. Jameson shot assholes like Batman every day back in the war. He never stopped giving some punk spider-kid shit, he'll never stop giving Batman shit.

>>87517172
Goblin killed Gwen tho.

>>87516793
You know Batman's gotten into a fist fight with Darkseid and come out on top, right? Batman being a normal dude is just a fucking myth.

>>87517385
except Batman actually is a crazy vigilante taking the law into his own hands, doing morally ambiguous stuff and turning the city into a rule of fear. I'd be with Jameson on this one.

>tfw Bruce Wayne publishes an editorial in the Daily Bugle defending Batman and gets into a public feud with JJJ over it

>>87517411
Can agree in most but Bane and Doomsday need their own category since they don't quite fit where they are

>>87517411
Still not a perfect fit. But I'll take it.

Superman needs a speedster villain.

>>87517505
I think Doomsday fits in Edgelord. He's basically an Edgelord at Superman's power level

>>87517450
Because Green Goblin knew/cared about Spider-Man's secret identity.
The same cannot be said much for the Joker to Batman.

>>87517170
No, you see, if Spider-Man kills Joker, then Joker wins because he broke Spidey!

>>87517454
Yeah, with a special super suit built by the Justice League that drains your own life energy.
I doubt Batman would be so eager to break something like that out against, say, Shocker.

>>87517505
Bane's pretty much Batman's equal in terms of intellect, tactical prowess and strength/training. I think he's the best thing Batman has in terms of "what if Batman was evil"

>>87517568
Spider-Man and Joker do not have history.

>>87517590
Hush?
Owlman?

If Bane is Batman's intellectual equal, how is that he's only been a minor threat since Knightfall?

At least Owlman is a big deal whenever he shows up
Bane is just like "Oh, hey Bane"

>>87516666
Spider-Man vs the Joker would be pretty similar to when Terry McGinnis went up against the Joker in Return of the Joker. Spidey would just make him lose his cool by laughing and making fun of him.

>>87517613
BRING BACK THE WRATH FOR REAL
BRING BACK KILLER MOTH FOR REAL
DO IT DC YOU PUSSIES

>>87517411

Nice work, all very accurate except this one

>tragic villain

Scorpion a tragic villain? Maybe if they had swapped him with Gladiator

>>87516866
These days, it's more of a convenient excuse than a motivation. He's killed people over this shit already, it's hard to walk back from that.

I think that how well they do wouldn't be about villains, since they're both resourceful people, but would depend when and how they're switched, given the contexts of the universes that they're in.

If Peter is found by the batfamily and proves that he's not evil, they'd probably help him get home. I could see him and Nightwing getting along especially well. Otherwise he'd most likely end up in Arkham, since he's a meta who would appear to be raving like a lunatic about contacting non-existing heroes in NY. (Much like Saturn Girl's current situation.)

Batman would have a lot more trouble, I think, as he's not nearly as open minded and trusting. He would hesitate to seek help from Marvel characters, since he either wouldn't agree with their methods (Punisher and Moon Knight are too brutal, the FF are too public, etc), or would see them as too powerful to be trusted (like Thor or various mutants who actually knows about other dimensions and could probably help). His best bet would probably be to ally himself with Daredevil. They have similar methods and Matt could help him get set up legally, at least short-term until he finds a way home.

>>87517700
>I could see him and Nightwing getting along especially well

I always thought of Dick Grayson as DC's Peter Parker, especially in Nightwing's mid-late 90s run

>>87517537
Joker killed Jason though. He might not be interested in the secret identity aspect, but he's just as dedicated to psychologically breaking his nemesis.

>>87517537
Joker killed Jason tho.

>>87516567
>Batman
>fucked by few quip enemies
>>87516666
I think Joker will see that Peter is able to kill from the begining. He will broke him in different way.

Batman is superior Punisher who doesn't kill. It doesn't seem like Frank have much troubles in Marvel universe. So.

>>87517568
You kill aunt may or any dear person to Peter and he fucking snaps. After Gwen he could give less than a shit to break his moral code, if you kill his family you're fucking dead. The only reason he hasn't snapped yet is because someone always stops him from doing it one way or the other.

>>87517774
But knowing about Aunt May would require knowing about Peter Parker being Spider-Man.
A better choice would have been Black Cat, but with her weird bad luck powers, that might not be so easy, anyway.

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>>87517810
But knowing about Aunt May would require knowing about Peter Parker being Spider-Man.
A better choice would have been Black Cat, but with her weird bad luck powers, that might not be so easy, anyway.

>>87517172
He was referring to Robin not Alfred. Read a comic.

>>87517850
nigga did i just catch you trusting a comic book cover?
fuck outta here with that weak shit

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>>87517819
Joker would love to make Spidey snap.

>>87517842
Plenty of people know who Peter is. Its not that hard, Nygma would solve it quickly.

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>>87517815
>underestimating Spider-Man's villains
>overestimating Frank Castle

nigga go to kindergarten please

>>87517842
Joker doesn't have to know about Batman's secret identity, since the way he sees it Batman is the real persona. So he can go after Robin and get the same kind of reaction as Norman got when he killed Gwen. Spider-Man is different though, as the "real" him is the person under the mask. If Joker wanted to strike at him effectively, he'd be fine with figuring out who Peter is.

Basically, it's not about how Joker operates, it's about the difference in how Batman and Spider-Man see themselves.

>>87517924
That's why I suggested Black Cat, dude.

>>87517907
Yeah, just like how he figured out Batman's secret identity so easily, right?
It's not like he needed his entire body to be rejuvenated in order to figure it out, right?

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>>87517887
>>new gag thinks death of the family page is a cover kek

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>>87517907
Thing is, Snapped Peter puts the "Spider" aspect in Spiderman. He wants to torture the ones who tried to break him.

>>87517819
i like how pete has been shown to be more than willing to kill someone but things just happen that he doesn't

>>87517984
why is he in jail

>>87517981
>new gag
>gag
>GAG

you almost had im, m8
rip in pieces for these faggots
:"C

>>87518020
he snuck in to fuck with kingpin

>>87518020
Short story short
>Civil War bullshit: Peter unmasks himself to the public
>other Civil War bullshit: Peter sides against Iron Man so now he's a fugitive.
>Kingping (who is in jail) hires a hitman to kill him
>Hitman hits Aunt May instead cuz spider senses and sends her in a critical condition
>Peter gets serious and finds out who sent the hitman
>Proceeds to wreck the living shit out Kingping and swears to kill him the moment his aunt dies.
>One More Day Happens.

>>87517984
he didn't torture him he wanted to show him that even if he was just peter parker no flips no webs no jokes he could still beat him in a fair 1-1 fist fight that no matter what he did he couldn't beat him face to face that pete was the superior man... on second thought to a man like wilson that was torture

>>87518012
He had all the reasons in the world in Grim Hunt.
Fuck, Kraven was begging him to do it.

>>87518097
>on second thought to a man like wilson that was torture
Exactly.

>batman can get hit once by an ordinary guy with makeup
Hes fucked. Spideys foes are stronger and faster than even he, a guy with minor precognition,super tech, and super powers, can handle sometimes. Most of his rougues go for the kill and anyone not super durable would die in one hit

>>87517972
If Joker wanted so much, he would just extract it out of Riddler.

>>87518119
yeah but for some reason killing one person lead peter into a life of murder now that i think about it what kind of person is pete that killing one maniac lead him into a life of it

>>87517984
And?

>>87518148
You're assuming Riddler would be able to figure it out at all when it took a Lazarus Pit bath for him to come to the conclusion that Bruce Wayne, the richest man in Gotham, must be Batman, the richest superhero in Gotham with equal gender, race, and physical stature to Bruce Wayne

>>87518143
Batman fight super powered beings all the time in other books. He was killing kaijus last month

>>87518185
Context?

>>87518185
I'd like to see how he deals with Gamera or Big G

>>87518182
>You're assuming Riddler would be able to figure it out

Riddler is one of the world's greatest detective minds. He figured Batman out years ago.

>>87518182
Did Batman really take Joker for a dip in that pit in one issue because of his 'no kill' code or was that a joke about bad writing?

>>87518211
> it took a Lazarus Pit bath for him to come to the conclusion that Bruce Wayne, the richest man in Gotham, must be Batman, the richest superhero in Gotham with equal gender, race, and physical stature to Bruce Wayne

So, did you just ignore that, or . . .

>>87518219
I, uh- I'm not sure what you're asking.

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>>87518205
Batman can handdle things way above his power level.

>>87518284
I remember people saying something about how Batman would rather dunk Joker in the Lazarus Pit than violate his 'no kill' code in some arbitrary fashion like leaving him to die after he was shot in the street. Wasn't quite sure if that was a joke or not since it does sound stupid and poorly written enough to be in a comic.

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>>87517454
>not recognizing this as the one-off, poorly written bullshit it was
I bet you thought BvS was a good movie too.

>>87518171
Joker wants to break Batman because he knows Bruce would hate himself afterward. But Peter? Peter said it there, he can make an exception for once, especially if Joker kills her aunt he would bear no regret.

>>87518358
No, I think he probably would rather do something like that.

>>87516762
>he'd sort out the Arkham regulars overnight.

Pete doesn't cure mental illness, he exacerbates it by being a quippy asshole

Some versions of Harley might fall for him though, if he can make her laugh

>>87518346
How easily, though, would Batman be able to come up with ways of defeating a number of Spider-Man villains?
Guys like Doc Ock would swat him away. Most of Marvel's Batmen-archetypes are either crazier than he is, have super-senses, or Vibranium costumes. And Ock is still more than a match.

>>87518150
You're talking about a guy who swings around New York in a spider suit guided by his own guilt, creeps behind everyone without warning, goes on a clean-street rampage every time he gets angry and suffered a deep trauma in his teens which still affects him nowadays, what the fuck do you think?

>>87518472
I like to think that Batman fighting Spidey's rouges would be similar to the times when Spiderman fights seriously

>>87518486
yo uncle ben gave the worse advice ever with out even knowing it he died thinking he gave peter life saving advice when in reality it made petes life a living hell imagine if he said "every dog has its day"

>>87518093
>One More Day Happens.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm still mad!

>>87518551
Is Batman now capable of punching out the Rhino?

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>>87518570
Same.
Pre-OMD Spider-man was in the perfect place.
Being unmasked was good for the story.
Aunt May dying is something that should happen (how the fuck is she still alive, Jesus Christ, she's like 150 now).

>>87518551
i dont think pete dies everytime he fights seriously electro fires shots that would kill a normal human rhino can puncture cement and multiply cars doc ock arms are made of the hardest material known and can crush diamonds lizard's tail alone is stronger than spidey batman would be out of his ball park hell that nigga would literally be out of his world

>>87518358
No. The only instance Batman ever used a pit to heal Joker was during a storyline where Joker found out a plan of Ra''s AL Ghul, who had him killed for it. Batman super struggled with it, but he didn't have time to figure it out and he realized the only way to stop the plan was to bring back Joker to get the info, the Pit made Joker sane long enough that he told Bats about it and ended up saving millions.

>>87518584
He can knock out the Hulk, so I don't see why not

>>87518584
With a robot suit? Yeah.

Or he could just use that thing that he used on the kaiju, or super glue. Or many other ways.

Most Spider vilains are stupid crooks, and Batman is smarter and more resourseful than Peter, so dealing with Ock might not be such big deal.

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>>87518648
>Dr. Octopus, who almost destroyed the world with a cybernetic orbital lens
>stupid crook

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>>87518486
>goes on a clean-street rampage every time he gets angry
I thought I had the page of villains going into a police station for protection from Pete
Oh well

>>87518695
Do you even know how to read?

>>87518646
>Batman beat a nearly-mindless animal
>did not do it by punching him out

nigga

>>87518646
he didnt knock out the hulk he gassed the hulk then punched him in the breathe in organ even though to actually put a being the size of the hulk out he would need more gas in the air than actually air considering he doesn't carry doses that would be lethal to a normal size person

>>87518695
Pretty sure he said that most Spider vilains are strong but stupid, and that Bruce can outsmart the ones who aren't

>>87516846
Huh now that you mention it, Spidey would probably try to help some of bats villains by actually reasoning with them. Kinda like flash with the trickster in that one episode of justice league unlimited. Of course, bats villains would always fall off the wagon leaving Spidey pretty emotionally strained

>>87518757
>>87518648

Gentleanons, please refer to:
>>87517917

>>87516514
What would the Venom/Batman relationship be?

>>87518648
>peter has been proven to be smarter than ock just not as persistent
>batman also somehow smarter than pete an actually genius that figured out how to disarm a bomb with no training and how to survive an impact from space

>>87517170
DUDE

>>87518393
Yeah, if Joker wanted to break Peter, he'd somehow have to get Peter to hurt innocents (preferably friends/loved ones) of his own accord, a la Gwen.

>>87518615
Because Quesada is a big baby who can't get over his divorce and vents it on the fanbase.

>>87518472
Batman would need to hit up Tony Stark for some sweet mech-Bat armor, and start specializing his countermeasures.

>>87518803
Batman would be the food.

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>>87518727
You mean this?

>>87518849
>hulk can and has survived in the vaccum of space
>has a healing factor
>lol let me gas him

Anywho this isn't canon. Spideys rogues are leagues beyond batmans.

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>>87518849
Yes, exactly.
He did not do it by punching him out.
Hitting your solar plexus and forcing you to breathe-
is not punching you out.

>>87516869

Man those parallels on the Superman side are all kinds of fucked up

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>>87518757
Most Spidey villains regularly face Spidey, a guy with limited prescience, enhanced reflexes, supreme agility, and a good fighting sense

Someone who's traumatized Titania even without going silent

>>87518804
>batman also somehow smarter than pete an actually genius that figured out how to disarm a bomb with no training and how to survive an impact from space

Yes?

It is pretty obvious that Bruce is waaaaay smarter than Peter.

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>>87517877

>/co/ doesn't read comics ha ha read a comic

Ok here's what that anon was saying.

Alfred is to Batman what Aunt May is to Spidey.

Robin is Batman's sidekick, ward, surrogate son or whatever but main ASM Spidey doesn't have a regular sidekick in that capacity so Anon's saying that that quip about Joker beating Aunt May with a crowbar doesn't make analogous sense.

>>87518934
what has he done to prove it pete isnt trained in the slightest to do what he does yet he still does that shit on the fly bruce trained half his natural life to get where he is pete is obviously much more intelligent to quickly grasp at the concepts as fast as he does or i guess it would be more quick witted

>>87518927
And?

>>87518934
>Batman is smarter than Peter
>Peter employs villains who have redeemed themselves to put them to use
>Gotham City is still a rancid shithole

uh-huh

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>>87518943
my
nigga

>>87518924
How d'you mean, anon? :o

>>87518943
I can't help but feel that Joker would enjoy fighting Spider-man a bit.
Might be fun for him to have a foe who actually can tell a joke.

>>87517984
A better example of snapped Peter putting the Spider into Spider-Man is Grim Hunt or just any of early Kaine in Scarlet Spider.

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>>87518927
>>87518712
>>87517984
>>87517170
Can someone post more dark spiderman? This is getting good.

>>87518972
when you think about it the fact that they have the ability to fight him multiply times in a week with a new idea or plan to beat them makes them much smarter than the average person at least at what they do imagine if someone told sandman that sand is harder to wet when its in big piles or small grains or told electro that a plastic suit could easily deflect water or rhino that he doesnt have to wait until he hits some thing to stop running they would be nigh invincible

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>>87517105
>Joker kills aunt May
Oh boy

>>87517105
Yeah, buddy. The LAST thing you want to do is seriously piss Pete off. He's the kinda guy who goes easy on you untill he doesn't. And that's the moment you're fucked.

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>>87518943
Guy who made analogy here. Isso don't give a fuck about "ward" paralel.

The analogy is with a "loved one" instead of "ward". Which both auntie and Robins are.

Don't be stupid anon.

>>87519080
Why should Joker care?

>>87519061
Not really. You are now using headcanon.

>>87519083
Because you don't need to know who Batman really is to kill a Robin for the express purpose of hurting Batman.
But you need to know how Spider-Man really is to kill Aunt May with the express purpose of hurting Spider-Man.
You goddamned dumb cunt.
Keep posting cheesecake tho

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>>87519083
Given what Aunt May did to Chameleon, I wouldn't be surprised if she keeps a loaded shotgun somewhere in the house.
Joker's only dangerous to the rank and file in Gotham because he's got a reputation.

>>87516869
Green Goblin is more like Two Face than the Joker, really.
And the lizard is a closer analogue to mr freeze than dr octopus is.

What would happen if Spiderman and THE FLASH switched Rogues galleries?

Who has the easier time of it?

>>87518584
He punches out Bane so I don't see how he wouldn't

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>>87517568
Wich matters literally nothing to Peter. You kill Aunt May, and he's going to beat your ass into a literal pulp. He doesn't give a shit.

He threw Wolverine trough unbreakable glass when he was pissed off.

>>87519211
Bane is nowhere near Rhino's level, sweet Christ in Heaven.

>>87519155
you telling me you would be able to come up with back to back plans to beat pete on a nearly daily basis and that electro wouldn't be invincible if he wore a waterproof suit or that sandman wouldn't be if he kept extra sand on person or that rhino wouldn't be if he didn't just stop the moment spidey jump out of the way

>>87518617
>Electro: class-12 electrokinetic metahuman, "Living-Battery" subtype.
>Countermeasure: Layer of advanced vulcanized elastomers over suit. Possible "grounding gun" to disable abilities?
>Rhino: Class-10 metahuman. Incredibly strong and durable. Low IQ. Direct conflict without HCS inadvisable.
>Countermeasure: High-grade tranquilizers. Target facial muscles as delivery vector (only biological parts not armored?).
> Doctor Octopus: Cybernetically enhanced human, nuclear physicist.
>Countermeasure: Advanced anti-technological weaponry should be able to disable enhanced limbs. Tranquilizers valid secondary option.
>"The Lizard": Genetically-altered human, reptilian splice (this timeline's Waylon?). Strength equal to KK, if not superior. Highly intelligent.
>Countermeasure: Gene splicing logically will have altered metabolism from endothermic to exothermic. Cryo-weaponry most valid takedown route.

Batman would look before he leapt if he ended up in a parallel universe.

>>87516514
Is Peter Parker a biggest Mary Sue?

>>87519196
Now that's a match-up.
I think Spidey would definitely have a harder time.
The Rogues are scary-weird.

>>87519246
What's the Joker's countermeasures?

>>87519253
No

>>87519246
>87519246
>strength equal to KK
>KK

Killer Krok?

>>87519214
throwing a four hundred pound object at 30mph anything is gonna damage it also its not really unbreakable if it broke also why the fuck would you want unbreakable glass why not just put up a giant one way mirror so no one knew it was a way in

>>87519239
Yes, because that's just engaging in Spiderwankery. You're saying that fucking Electro, Mr. Living Battery, would be able to take down cosmic-level shit if he just wore a waterproof suit.

>>87519303
nigga what are you rambling about haha

>>87516514

Batman would be physically broken. Every villain has a super power and are above street level in terms of power.

Spider-man would be mentally broken. Every villain is basically Norman Osborne in terms of mental torture and Peter has almost cracked a few times in the past.

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>>87519273

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>>87519253

Yes.

Any "vs" thread with Sipdey always end up with:

>Only Superman and WW can match Peter in his strenght when he is angry!!!
>Nobody can EVER hurt him on ANY WAY because of spidersense!
>He is immune to ALL psychological horror that dont revolve around his daily live, and will quip and make any serious vilain angry!
>He is smarter than the 3 most smart people at DC Universe, and even if someone can counter the points above, he will create something that will make him win!

>>87519383
Beat me on it.

>>87519246
>KK
I'm retarded. Should be "KC".

>>87519129
Care about what? Getting his face smashed in?
He probably doesn't, but that doesn't change the fact that he's going to get his face smashed in.

And in this situation, Joker would fuck it up for all other rogues in Batman's gallery.

Peter without his moral compass will just smash the shit out of anyone who stands in his way.

>>87519177
So you go after his pal, Peter Parker.

And probably ends up discovering that he is Spider, like others have before.

>>87519383
Is that the answer? Is Commissioner Gordon the countermeasure or is he the reaction?

>>87519419
rape

>>87519384
>>>Only Superman and WW can match Peter in his strenght when he is angry!!!
>>Nobody can EVER hurt him on ANY WAY because of spidersense!
>>He is immune to ALL psychological horror that dont revolve around his daily live, and will quip and make any serious vilain angry!
>>He is smarter than the 3 most smart people at DC Universe, and even if someone can counter the points above, he will create something that will make him win!

Anon, it's Batman and Spidey
Batman's villains wouldn't be much to Thor either (in straight combat anyway)

>>87519273
>"The Joker": Career criminal/serial killer/domestic terrorist. Highly intelligent, extremely mentally unbalanced, high pain tolerance. Manipulative and unpredictable sociopath.
>Countermeasure: As for street criminals in physical conflict. Confrontation with "Joker" requires through and rapid situation analysis, due to his unpredictable and elaborate plans, usually involving hostages. Don't let him get in your head.

>>87519246
>"The Lizard": Genetically-altered human, reptilian splice (this timeline's Waylon?). Strength equal to KK, if not superior. Highly intelligent.

since when could killer croc move over 40 tons which is spideys limits which lizard has been shown to out due

> Doctor Octopus: Cybernetically enhanced human, nuclear physicist.

>Countermeasure: Advanced anti-technological weaponry should be able to disable enhanced limbs. Tranquilizers valid secondary option.

the limbs themselves are capable of moving with out his input plus they are apart of his cerebral cortex they only way to take them out would be to take him out

>Electro: class-12 electrokinetic metahuman, "Living-Battery" subtype.
>Countermeasure: Layer of advanced vulcanized elastomers over suit. Possible "grounding gun" to disable abilities?

electro can make barriers you still gotta get thru that also what the hell is a grounding gun grounding electricity means to pass it through something that can safely neutralize it or pass it to the ground how can a gun do that


>Rhino: Class-10 metahuman. Incredibly strong and durable. Low IQ. Direct conflict without HCS inadvisable.
>Countermeasure: High-grade tranquilizers. Target facial muscles as delivery vector (only biological parts not armored?).

have fun trying to shoot him while he's running at you with his face down also pretty sure a powder or gas would be more suitable seeing as how he would have no problem getting close to rhino and last but not least what about the second fight those same tricks will only work 1-2 times also sandman

>>87519384
It's not like Batman's treated any WORSE, you know.

>>87519013
I don't think he'll fit in. I don't think Tony will let him fit in.

>>87519417
That's just speculating at that point, what conclusion the Joker would come to.

>>87516869
>Darkseid
>Superman enemy

STOP THIS

>>87519303
What the fuck did you even just say?
No seriously, what in the motherfuck? This is just rambling.

In any case, you seem to be very confused.
Do you even know what unbreakable glass is?

>>87519548
But it's true.

>>87519078
He would tear down Arkham brick to brick in order to find the clown.

>>87519572
No, its not. If you're going to put Darkseid in Superman's rogues gallery, go the extra mile and put him in everyone's rogues gallery.

>>87519384
>Any "vs" thread with Sipdey always end up with:
Any "vs" thread with evey character end like that.

>>87516514
If Batman has Waynetech money and influence, he still will struggle against Electro, Venom, Sandman and Smart Lizard.
If he doesn't have Waynetech he's toroughly fucker at the start because he'd have zero leverage on Osborn and zero actual power to stop Kingpin.

Batman's villains are way too weak and low-scale compared to Spidey's. Swapping Spidey with Flash would be fairer.

>>87519708
So if that swap did happen then would Professor Zoom stop that one guy from shooting Uncle Ben only so he could kill Uncle Ben with his bare hands?

>>87519745
>yfw Professor Zoom snapped Gwen's neck when the webline hit her

>>87519481
>Since when could KC move over 40 tons?
Depending on the comic, KC hurls generators, cars, and other high-mass objects like they were toys. In the same comics, he's usually shown biting through hard metals like they were candyfloss and Kool-Aiding through brick like it was rice paper. You use the strongest version of Lizard, I use strongest version of KC.
>Doc Ock
Adhesive grenades, then. Limbs can't move if they are glued to each other. Isn't that how Peter does it?
>Electrical Barriers
Don't mean shit to a suit with advanced vulcanized elastomer coating. Doesn't melt, doesn't get shocked.
>WTF a grounding gun?
>Prototype: "Grounding gun", or "Reverse Taser": Two electro-conductive tongs are connected to high-current wires, which in turn are connected to a highly-positive battery (look into advanced electrical storage methods). When fired into Electro's skin, native electricity will follow path of least resistance into battery, reducing Electro's charge, and thereby weakening him.
>Have fun shooting him
Okay, my bad. KO gas would be more sensible.
>Those tricks only work once
By that logic, why do these guys keep letting Spider-Man web them up? Why doesn't Electro wear a waterproof suit if he keeps being beaten by water? Why doesn't Doc Ock carry industrial solvents around with him? Doing away with the flat learning curve of a supervillain just because they're punching someone who isn't their rival is villainwank on the lines of "Joker just magically finds out who Spiderman is and kills Aunt May".
>Sandman: Class-12 shape-shifter.
>Countermeasure: Isolate as much sand from core mass as possible (heat+water?). Adhesives to trap particles.

>>87516514

Is this just like a... they're picked up by some cosmic being and dropped into each other's universes kind of thing?

'cause if it is, Batman is fucked. Like, straight fucked. He doesn't know anything about anyone in Spidey's universe and has no access to his only real power: his Wayne Enterprises cash flow.

For Spidey, Batman's rogues gallery is basically just an average Tuesday. Things won't change much for him.

>>87519849
As a Batfan: yeah, Bruce is screwed without his toys. If he somehow still has access to his gadgets somehow, I think he can take Spidey's crew. Not without analysis, but he could take them.

>>87519937
How does Batman beat Electro?

>>87519953
Water.

>>87519937
Whati f Batman goes to Tony, tell him the situation and asks him to use his tech?

>>87520002
>"Mister Stark, I'm Bruce Wayne"
"...Who?"

>>87519828
>>Sandman: Class-12 shape-shifter.
>>Countermeasure: Isolate as much sand from core mass as possible (heat+water?). Adhesives to trap particles.


Sandman usually isnt that different from Clayface in using their powers offensively, is he?

>>87520002
How exactly would he prove it though? Unless that godlike being appears and says 'yep that's all true' then he would come off as a nutcase in a costume.

>>87519953
Insulation. Same way Pete did, honestly.

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>>87520020
>>87520025

They had crossovers that are canon.

>>87520022
Pretty much. Hell, I'm not sure if Sandman even does the whole "I can shapeshift into anyone" thing as often as Clayface does.

>>87520050
...
Is this real? Please tell me this is real.

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>>87520050
How fast did he excuse me she get fucked by hercules.

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>>87520136
You had your own Thor.

>>87520087
Dammit, its just some guy's TG fetish art. I wanted something this gonzo to actually go to print.

>>87517215
I'm more interested in how the villains react.
>Joker drops out because his husbando is gone.
>Osborn drops out of super villainy because his husbando is gone, goest back to political and corporate meddling, the idiot Marvel citizens may even make him president.

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>>87520177
Holy shit. I never knew how bad I wanted this?

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>>87520245
I could keep posting weird stuff, but I dont want to derail the thread.

>>87517613
Because Bane is actually as smart as Bruce, realizes he doesn't have the support net Bruce has, and understands he's more likely to continue living in relative peace and freedom by not being an edgelord like Owlman.

>>87517907
And Spidey wouldn't care.
Joker would have to be there before back in black, Kraven's last hunt, Venom and the death of Gwen Stacy for Peter to actually be squeamish about killing him for going too far.

>>87520022
Sandman likes become HUGE, doesn't he?
I don't think Clayface does that, but I could be wrong

>>87520464
Peter would snap, you saw what happened when he thought that Aunt May was gonna die and everyone, even her, told that he should get over it.

He made a pact with the devil.

Peter would fucking snap.

>>87520465
He can, but usually doest do it.

Last months he just became an armor for Batman to fight kaijus, and had a dream sequence where he was a giant wave destriying everything in a simulation.

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Are we purposedly ignoring the fact that Bruce kicked Darkseid ass for any particular reason?

Because all I see is people talking about if spidey enemies superpower are too much superpower for him to handle?

Batman has been defeating Superman tier metas for decades as part of the JL

>>87519180
> Joker tries to kill Aunt May
> Gets trolled instead
> Puts May on his good side because she managed to use an old\very uncommon Charlie Chaplin\Buster Keaton\obscure comedian joke on him.

>>87518150
Doesn't assassin Spidey assassin for the money on top of the "kill one and you're a killer" bullshit?

>>87520576
People are ignoring it for the same reason they're ignoring that one time that Spiderman beat Firelord.

Terribly-written characterwank.

>>87520576
Spiderfags are the biggest characterfags and fanboys on /co/.

>>87520576
Yes, we are, because Justice League team-ups generally need to do an ass-pull so Batman doesn't get left in the dust. I'm probably one of the biggest Batfans in this thread, but Batman can't punch at the Cosmic level (which most JL stories play out at) without some major bullshit).

BUT, anyone in this thread claiming that Batman's totally outclassed by Spiderman's villains is full of shit. If Batman has access to his full resources and has time to study his foes (the only way this scenario works without it devolving into Spiderwank), he can take on Spidey's rouges without getting completely creamed.

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>>87520289
We can always put another subject on the table.

Like:

> WHO WOULD MAKE A BETTER WAIFU? R63 Batman, or R63 Spider?

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What exactly prevents Batman from creating a suit to face strong metahumans?

>>87520576
Is DC Dracula as powerful as Marvel Drac?

>>87520720
Tony Stark

>>87520664
>Not punisherfags
>Not superfags

>>87520790
They at least admit that their character can loose. Spiderfags treat him like he was on the top 15 of the most powerful of Marvel Earth.

>>87520664
No way, Dick Graysonfags have that honor.

>>87520743
Why would Tony opose him? Bruce is a good guy

>>87520844
Its like they think that Spider-Man is permanently at Captain-Universe tier.

>>87519031
That's why he loves Booster and Terry right?
Joker hates going against anyone but Batman. Other heroes make him realize he's meaningless.

who dat nigga beside shocker?

>>87520529

You're not getting it. Joke wants to make Batman snap because Batman cares not too. Spidey doesn't. He's not gonna play Joker's game or follow some kind of arbitrary set of rules.

>>87520866
Tony isn't a good guy.

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Man Spidey wouldn't even HAVE to do shit to Joker.

>>87519595
Nah, Darkseid is either Orion's or Superman's nemesis, and Orion doesn't get his own series anymore.

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>>87517105
That isn't a line you want to cross.

>>87520978
>Spidey doesn't.

Pretty sure that Peter would rather not snap.

"Snap" isnt "killing", "snap" is literally "demaging you psychologically in a serious way".

>>87520576
>Are we purposedly ignoring the fact that Bruce kicked Darkseid ass for any particular reason?
Because he died.

>>87521150

No but Peter's also a lot more of a realist than Batman is.

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>>87520712
Rule 63 Batman is a better waify than Rule 63 Peter.

Both have a life full of suffering, but Miss Wayne will at least ALWAYS be rich.

>>87520723
DC Dracula seems to be baseline stronger because he actually has all vampire superpowers all the time while Marvel Dracula goes from average Blade vampire to cthonic horror depending on wether he's fighting Captain America or Doctor Strange.

>>87521226
Peter rather made a pact with the devil than let his aunt die.

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>>87517017
Could doppleganger guy also be Reverse Flash if he got surgery to look like Barry? Even if he's already the main bad and hero's opposite guy?

That fucker gets around, pun not intended.

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Someone should just storytime the Batman Spiderman crossovers at this point.

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>>87521243
I think the only time that ever happened was the Japanese Elseworlds. And Cass/Kon as a next-gen version.

>>87516514
Spidey

Just popping in to remind all you guys that even though Spidey and Bats have the most popular and prolific baddies, no groups of Rogues will ever beat out the pantheon of the Flash, from golden to modern. From minor to major, his are THE best. It's just a shame the majority of folks don't read Flash to know it.

Name me a Bats or Spidey villain and I'll drop a Flash baddie that suits that role and does it better.

If the current generation had a Flash animated series as kids, I'm sure the popularity woulda skyrocketed like 90s Spidey and Bats had.

Professor Zoom, Captain Boomerang, Heatwave, Top, Mirror Master, Gorilla fucking Grodd, Rag Doll, Shade, Turtle, Fiddler, Abra Kadabra, Zoom, Captain Cold, Doctor Alchemy, Weather Wizard, Trickster... I could go on and on.


TLDR: Flash baddies blow Spidey n Bat's outta the water. Not to mention bad guy legacies

>>87521761
>Name me a Bats or Spidey villain and I'll drop a Flash baddie that suits that role and does it better.

Mr Freeze

:^)

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>>87521761
oh well obviously no one is arguing that, the Rogues are the best

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>>87521932
Mr. Freeze shoots some ice, Captain Cold has a gun that does absolute zero

>>87516514
Batman without access to his massive resources of Wayne industries is operating at a steady loss. he's going to have to drop down from "planetary" to "local" hero status. He's a genius, so i have no doubt he can game whatever financial system is in place in Marvel to make a bunch of ethical money quickly, but for a while he's SoL and will have to get by on just near-peak human and whatever he had on his person. Batman would probably be significantly depleted after his first fight with any of Spider-Man's rogue's gallery.

Spider-Man, however, would have Gotham tied around his little finger inside a month. he'd probably start by counter-snarking the Joker and leaving him hanging on several strands of spider web like he was a marionette. Take a few photos for the Gotham Times, start some good PR. Joker would probably actively stay in Arkham (Because fighting someone who tells better jokes than you do isn't fun.) but i can practically guarantee that Spider-Man would spend at least one night at Noonan's sleazy bar, shooting the shit with the six-pac.

Joker doesn't go to Arkham he goes to the raft or vault or some actual super villain jail.

It doesn't really always work but Marvel at least TRIES to keep their bad guys locked up.

>>87516514
Bats is fucked purely because he doesn't have his secret lair, billions worth of specialized equipment and years of obsessively compiled background info on every criminal. He'd be starting from scratch.
If he hung back for 10 years he'd be fine but we all know he can't keep himself indoors when there's crime afoot.
Spidey never does much research, he might get taken by surprise by some villains like Mad Hatter but overall he'd be fine, the worst he'd suffer would be general depression over how bad things are in Gotham. In fact he'd probably get chased by corrupt cops within a few days

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>>87521761
Well at least we have CW Flash which has piqued interests, regardless of its quality. I'm having a hard time finding Flash comics in town due to demand.

But yes, I fucking love the Rogues.

>>87517385
>>87517423
Aaand Bruce Wayne buys The Daily Bugle

The best part would be a Spider-man and Nightwing team up.

>>87522008
How did Cold make a gun so ridiculously powerful? It should take an ungodly power source and I thought CC didn't have much of an education.

>>87522268
He stole it from a lab then figured out how it worked?
Or is that CW only?

>>87522268
Cap. BOOMERANG. can make boomerangs with his mind.

>>87522308
CW only. In the comics he made the gun himself after reading some articles in prison. He didn't fully understand what he'd done at first, but through long years of using and studying the tech he really is the master of absolute zero.

>>87522331
only in Brightest Day

>>87522493
But can he still make himself into a boomrang?

>>87522191

With What money? No one's gonna accept a check from a bank that doesn't exist

>>87522511
God I hope so

>>87517418
>Where the hell is Parker? WAYNE! I want pictures of Batman YESTERDAY!

>>87522824
I feel like Bruce would be too prideful to take that sort of job

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>>87522631
Infinite wealth is part of Batman's power set.

>>87520866
>Bruce is a good guy
Debatable, besides, IF Bruce went seeking for help, he'd seem like a full on crazy person.

>>87521932
lol this faggot doesn't know about how Captain Cold is the master of absolute zero. This faggot thinks retconned lovelorn back story is better than master thief thrill seeker and Rogue extraordinaire. This dumbie didn't know Smart is the coolest (pun intended but still rightfully used) bad dude. Note even Luthor or Doom reach Len level machinations, they just think too big.

>>87521932
Bane

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>>87522114
>>87522044
Come on, guys, every Marvel small tier villain has access to crazy shit with amazing ease, in Marvel universe rogues steal powerarmors and serums as if they were candy. With the years how many petty burglars have we seen getting superweapons?

And even if he couldn't get his hands on something advanced like that, look at Frank Castle, he faced the Hulk and other A List and he only has a basement and some standard guns.

And you are telling me that the greatest detective of the (other) world wouldn't be able to get enough assets to fight evil in a few hours?

>>87523011
Agree, which by the way makes the "Batman doesn't have his resources" argument pretty unfair.

Because its like saying that Peter goes to Gotham but he doesn't have his superpowers.

If Bats needs to build his fortune in Marvelverse then Peter has to go find a radioactive spider in DCverse

>>87516514
Spider-man, easily. Spider-man's only foes that could threaten Batman are probably Green Goblin (who is pretty much just Hoverboard Joker) and the Symbiotes. Everybody else is two-bit theives or half baked evil scientists.

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>>87525450
Who in Batman's rogues could fuck up Spidey?
Mr Freeze and his ice gun?
Fuck his ice gun!

>>87516845
>Joker /hates/ having a complementary enemy.
That's basically how Terry psyched him out in Return of the Joker.

>>87526170
Off the top of my head, the only ones who would be genuine direct threats are Freeze, Ivy and Clayface. Maybe Bane on a good day.

And Mysterio's done the exact same kind of bullshit as Scarecrow at times, so there's another.

>>87517105

and then he'd be viciously murdered

:D

>>87526170
>Freeze
>Ivy (Pete's hormones would fuck him completely)
>Penguin (same way as Kingpin)
>Electrocutioner (if a regular guy like Shocker can pose a threat, and Electro is a threat, then a regular guy with electrical gear would also be a threat)
>Killer Croc (better Lizard)
>Killer Moth (cocoon guns are basically web shooters)
>Scarecrow (Basically a better Mysterio)
>Scorpiana
>Clayface
>Bane
>Ra's

Plus you've got guys like Riddler and Joker, who would just set up deathtraps.

These are all guys who have to deal with Batman's intellect on a daily basis. Outsmarting a guy who needed one of his villains to get his doctorate for him would be a walk on the park.

Spider-man just never fought villains that are actually threatening.

>>87526655
>>Killer Croc (better Lizard)
What now?
How do you figure?

>>87520950
Electrocutioner

>>87518912
we never got to see this in Jessica Jones did we

>>87518927
> we'll never see Dillon deliver the goods again

2016 has a lot of answering to do

>>87519257
>I think Spidey would definitely have a harder time.
>The Rogues are scary-weird.
but they have a code of honor about things
no killing their rival
NO DRUGS

and god help the rogue who thinks he's smarter than/going to double-cross Leonard Snart

>>87526655
>Spider-man just never fought villains that are actually threatening.
You know, on any other day, I'd be triggered enough to be mad about this statement.
But I'm afraid you might actually be literally retarded.

Oh, you want to see Spider-Man in Gotham?

http://yogurthfrost.deviantart.com/art/JLA-Date-NOW-51919777

it's only the best fan comic about rape leading to true love

>>87528232
That's all well and good, but Captain Cold has a gun that can make atoms stop moving, Mirror Master can do literally anything you can and can't think of involving mirrors, and also Professor Zoom could probably kill Spider-Man with every limb tied behind his back.
Like I said.
Scary-weird.

>>87528490
Flash and his rogue's gallery are actual laws of physics.

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>>87528440
>Flying geriatric
>Magician in a space helmet
>alligator in a lab coat
>fat man with 4 extra arms
>flying joker
>character entirely built around the stock video game boss fight where you make a dude run into a wall
>yellow mememan

Come the fuck on, man. Other than Venom Spider-man has garbage villains.

I dare you to ask any normie to name 10 Spider-man villains. You will be lucky if you get two or three.

>>87528516
Is it weird that I sort of miss the Top?

>>87528664
Rosco has a shockingly large fanbase, actually

>>87528647
> discussing normies

get the fuck out

>>87528647
>psychotic clown with constantly alternating motives
>literally a man who looks like a penguin
>fapbait who used to be immune to poison but is now also actually related to plants somehow
>a green boy who is supposedly some sort of genius but not as much of a genius as the hero, of course-
>an anorexic who likes fear and then that's it
>a midget pedophile who likes kids' books
>a big thug who used to have a skin condition but is now actually a lizard and now also eats people and is actually a monster or something don't you know
>a Mexican wrestler on steroids who was good for literally one story and even then he was Plot Device Supreme

You wanna do this for every rogues' gallery?

>>87528751
Really? Sick.

>>87528647
>thinks Venom is not a garbage Spider-Man villain
>cares about what normies think
Nigga face it you're actual for real trash

>>87528764
Kind of funny how you've got to use whole sentences to describe Batman villains when you can describe Spider-man "villains" in a couple words.

Really Spider-man's only actually dangerous enemy is Marvel editorial.

>>87528805
Are you black?
Because you must have long limbs
to do all of this fuckin REACHING

>>87528834
You cannot actually think Spider-man's Silver Age rejects are actually decent villains?

>>87528870
>rejects
Considering how probably every single OG Batman villain ever has been reworked over and over to the point that their Silver/Golden Age counterparts are nearly unrecognizable-
Yes.

>>87528647
>Flying geriatric
Penguin
>Magician in a space helmet
The Riddler
>alligator in a lab coat
Killer Croc
>fat man with 4 extra arms
Freeze
>flying joker
Grounded Joker
>character entirely built around the stock video game boss fight where you make a dude run into a wall
Bane
>yellow mememan
Calendar Man

>>87528972
And you haven't even covered half of Batman's major villains.

Meanwhile Spidey has...
Black Spidey?
Red Black Spidey?

>>87519083
who is this sperm wym?

Tbh, Batman can stop every Peter's villain, and SM can stop every Bruce's villain. But I'm pretty sure Peter can't stop Ras who have no respect for him so he go full force.

>>87529003
>Are you black?
Because you must have long limbs
to do all of this fuckin REACHING

>>87528647
Most would be able to name the sinister six venom carnage and chameleon at minimum. Some would remember Morbius or the Spot.

>>87529097
...you're kidding, right?

>>87529144
This might be too much for you to wrap your head around, but people DID watch the 90s animated series, you know.

>>87528972
Those don't even work at all.

Penguin doesn't fly; he would be closer to Kingpin. Riddler isn't a magician, and doesn't rely on illusion. Killer Croc is a regular guy who looks like a lizard, not an animal. Freeze doesn't have extra arms and has motivations beyond "muh daddy was mean to me." Comparing Bane to Rhino is ridiculous since Rhino is a fucking joke, and Calendar Man isn't yellow nor does he spout memes.

This is just sad.

>>87529254
Yea Mr Freeze is motivated by 'Muh wife is dying'

>>87529097
are you fucking kidding?

I've done this exercise before. After Venom even getting Doctor Octopus out of them is a crapshoot, and most 90s kids are unlikely to even know Green Goblin since Hobgoblin was in the cartoon instead.

>>87529254
>Freeze doesn't have extra arms and has motivations beyond "muh daddy was mean to me."
muh wife am sick and then she leave me boo hop

>>87529306
Maybe it just depends on geography and marketing, then.

>>87517105
Then Joker dies and Gotham is saved.

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>>87529254
>Penguin doesn't fly
>Riddler and Mysterio don't build elaborate death traps
>Killer Croc and The Lizard don't have exactly the same role
>Freeze and Ock aren't thematically similar, brilliant scientists who've been both ridiculed and mangled due to their genious turn to crime to get back at the world
>Calendar Man isn't a meme character

Is this the most austistic discussion of all time? Both Bruce and Spidy can handle eacth others villiains. They're both strong and smart enough for that. But, if Bruce Wayne will be in Marvel universe and Peter in DC, Bruce will be pretty fucked up without money at the begining, while Peter is okay.

>>87529379
That's not a flying penguin that's a flying pig.

>>87529391
Depends on how quickly Peter can get the DC heroes on his side. Gotham's a pretty brutal place to be dropped in alone and without preparation.

>>87529352
That's probably it. I'm from the US and outside the movies Spider-man isn't really a thing. I've heard he's super popular in Mexico though.

>>87529379
The Killer Croc/Lizard one is pretty legit.
It's not just that they don't have exactly the same role.
It's that they have COMPLETELY DIFFERENT roles.
Killer Croc is a thug, and hired muscle, and constantly looks the way he does.
Lizard runs the line between being a feral beast and being a sociopathic mad scientist, and has the added hindrance of being an actual human most of the time.

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Joker. Spidey would quip him into oblivion and drive him beyond the edge.

>This is the face Joker is imagining each time Spidey would deal with him

He wouldn't stand it. Terry McGinisX100? He's fucked.

>>87529471
I'm also from the US but where I live a lot of people remember the show from Jetix and shit.

>>87529533
Would Spidey bring his best bants just for him? Would they surpass Australian levels? These are important questions.

>>87529533
Terry only really got to Joker because he was the new Batman. Joker couldn't deal with the idea that his Batman was gone.

Joker doesn't like Creeper either but it doesn't make him have a meltdown, and back in COIE Joker out banters him.

I can't really see Peter getting under Joker's skin enough to actually make him lose. He would definitely annoy Joker to the point he'd want to kill him, but Peter making Joker snap or something just doesn't like up with what we've seen. Peter isn't THAT funny.

>>87529922
It's not about being funny, it's about, you know, getting under their skin.

>>87516869
>Brianiac in any way similar to Doctor Octopus
>Mxyzptlk similar in any fucking way to Mysterio
>Deula similar to Hobgoblin

So I take it this chart was made by a fucking retard?

>>87526655
>Killer Croc (better Lizard)
bitch I'll fucking fight you

>>87529922
>Peter isn't THAT funny.

Not in recent years, but for decades he was fucking hysterical.

>>87518712
Wait, why did he beat up Vermin twice?

>>87526170
Just pointing out that a teenage Spider-man built a functioning "heat ray" in less than two hours with almost no money to his name

>>87516762
>Spider-man defeats Joker in quip battle
>Joker gives up crime since he can never be as funny as Spider-man
>the only thing fueling Joker the whole time was Batman never being on his level

>>87519560
>>87519331
im bad at relaying what im thinking what im saying is wolverine weighs 400-500 pounds saying spidey threw him at the speed of an average pitcher 30 miles per hour its not really a shock he broke the glass it would actually be more shocking if he didnt break it

>>87531811
>spider-man
>being funny
>at all

>>87529922
Peter has a hardcore way to get under your skin.
He shuts up. Then you remember Stan Lee introduced the quipping because he was too fucking creepy without it.

>>87528647
Nevertheless you made me kek

>>87522191
>implying that will stop Jameson

>>87516514
Batman's foes are crazier, but spidey’s are more powerful

>>87516514
Spider-man goes to DC New York, becomes an ally of Wonder Woman. Things stay the same basically.

There's no Gotham in Marvel. So Batman doesn't have anything to really care about, so he probably heads to Chicago where nothing in Marvel really seems to happen.

I don't think there's really a big enough change for either to be "fucked". But Batman wouldn't feel as strongly about working towards bettering Chicago as Gotham, so...him I suppose?

>>87518430
Batman manipulates the justice system so his rogues always get sent to Arkham, and has even used bribery and his own social standing to save the Joker from the death penalty.

Spider-man just catches them. Whatever happens next is the responsibility of the city. So if anything, Peter actually does sort out Gotham since most of the Batman rogues gallery either gets the death penalty, or just higher security federal prisons.

>>87518012
That happened with Batman too. He's had like three stories where he was going to kill. Two required Superman to talk him out of it, which includes when Joker beat Jason to death. The final one was just because Batman realized he was much better at out-smarting foes than fighting them head-on.