Why aren't there more male/female platonic duos in comics?

Because amatonormativity

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>>87445657
Shippers will ruin it anyway.

People say that they want it, but it always create legions of fans wanting them to actually fuck, because they have chemistry.

>>87445702
Shippers ruin everything.

>>87445657
Because writers can't resist making them kiss for added drama. Even if the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc writers insist they'll never make them romantic, someone down the line will do it anyway.

I can't really think of established male/female friendships that have never turned romantic. Hal & Dinah is a possible example, but only because most writers forget they're friends in the first place. If they hung out more often, some idiot would decide it was time to write an Ollie/Dinah/Hal love triangle story because it's been never done before.

>>87445888
Batman/Wonder Woman
Worst it got was teasing by Kelly and Timm

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>>87445888
What If Secret Wars doesn't count.

>>87445976
Has Cap ever even been that close with Carol tho

I actually think Tony is closer to her than Cap

>>87445657
>why can't men and women just be friends?
I don't know maybe because they both get horned up at somepoint

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>>87445998
Yeah.

He's even the one who convinced her to change her hero name.

The current Lanterns
Shut up shippers

Colleen Wing and Danny Rand. They couldn't gone there, but they didnt.

>>87445888

>>87445657
Image not related? Theyve fucked plenty of times.

>>87445657
There are. Pick up a fucking comic book for once.

>>87446465
I thought Cloak was in love with her, but Dagger never felt that way about him?

>>87446465
That's your headcanon

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>>87448860
Theyve made out on panel lots of times

>>87448897
scans please

>In b4 Ultimate Universe
That doesn't count

>>87448932
I dont just have scans saved of obscure D list couples hooking up

>>87448953
then you admit you don't know what your talking about

>>87445657
Is it because cloak is black people want them to be platonic?

>>87448932


>In b4 Ultimate Universe

oh fuck off ultimate version of cloak and dagger is the better version of cloak and dagger

and the x-men spinoff was pretty heavy on romantic jealousy (616 universe)

>>87450163
nobody wants to see your shitty racemixing in the media, kike. give it up.

>>87446417
Didn't they date in the early issues, before he met Misty?

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>>87450244
who knew hardcore cloak and dagger fans was also super racist.

go to bed faggot.

>>87445702
>>87445719
Remember when you could just ignore things you don't like.

I remember.

>>87450207
>oh fuck off ultimate version of cloak and dagger is the better version of cloak and dagger
Hey look its a newfag

Cloak and Dagger is kind of fucked when you think about it.

Cloak is man who wants that Tandy candy but never gets it. He feels an unending hunger that is only eased by her presence.

Dagger is a woman who only views Tyrone as a friend. She doesn't actually need him, and could leave at any time, bit doesn't because it would literally kill him.

Cloak needs Dagger, Dagger doesn't need Cloak.

And that's their dynamic.
A beautiful White woman, and the Black man leeching off of her.

I wonder if he only wants her because she's the only one he CAN have?

Do you think maybe deep down Tandy holds some deep seeded resentment towards him that she masks with friendship? Like maybe she knows she can't actually leave his side for too long, and so she tries to make the best of it because she can't doom a man to die, but that's also the reason she doesn't want to be with him as a lover?

>>87451481
So is it a lesson to learn that blacks need whites in order to survive, like a dog needs its master to feed them or they'll become feral again and die off?

Wasn't Cloak trying to rob Dagger when they first met too? So isn't Cloak her nigger slave?

How come tumblr isn't on this, I just might pick this up now

>>87450083
Youre a fucking idiot faggot literally just google Cloak and Dagger making out you stupid fucking casual. I hate how fucking full this board is of people like you that expect us people that actually read comics to dig up obscure panels and shit cause you are a little faggot that wants knowledge on the subject. Please just fucking kys.

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>>87451722
You mean this (1/2)

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>>87451722
>>87451831
(2/2)

See...

>>87451858
>The act of kissing him, even to save her own life, brings her a level of disgust.

>>87451722
BTFO

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>>87451530
>>87451530

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>>87451951
Seriously just fucking kill yourself you disgusting casual faggot.

I can't think of anything more boring in fiction than two characters of the opposite sex having a platonic relationship as a selling point. What, are we suppose to applaud that?

>>87452137

Isn't that the Ultimate Universe?

>>87452137

That's not 616 you retard.

>>87452239
I don;t think anyone wants it as a selling point, relationships are not something that should be a selling point, I think people just want two characters of opposite sexes to have a platonic relationship that never develops into romance, like so many have before.

>>87452239
I'm with you here.
Characters need to have some kind of relationship and to humans there only a few natural positions relative to one another.
>siblings
>parent-child
>student-mentor
>brothers in arms
>lovers
>vendor-customer
>superior-inferior
>friends
>enemies
>strangers
All of these can flow into one another, but some hold more dramatic potential than others.
And all of them can always very easily be made to flow towards lovers.
Because humans are strongly and on a basic emotional level motivated by sexuality.
Friendship holds little dramatic potential in itself. It is a bond of mutual affection, but relatively non-committal. They don't inherently have a defining cause, they don't have a fundamental imbalance of power or a shared fate that supercedes petty dispute.
It really is a fleeting thing and more an agreement of mutual convenience.
That's why you don't summon up a spirit of friendship in a team, but brotherhood.
Since capes are mostly not related by blood or part of a hierarchic organisation, they naturally gravitate towards lovers or enemies. Because that is where the drama happens. That is where high stakes and betrayal come in.
And with often unending need for twists and turns in the narrative, they gravitate towards the extreme ends sooner or later.
This is less pronounced if characters share a defined external purpose as brothers in arms. That purpose can generate drama, after all. Much more than just friendship.

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>>87452239
>Not liking surrogate sibling/parent-child relationships.
>Not liking teams that function as makeshift families.
>Not liking work spouses.
>Not liking what is effectively the same as a bromance.
>Not appreciating a non-intrusive but close-knit dynamic between the characters that doesn't have to slow down the flow of the story with unnecessary subplots.
I mean it's your opinion, but it's a pretty terrible one.

>>87450400
Of course i can ignore thats why i dont watch comics with shipping duh.

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>>87445657
Because it hardly ever stays platonic. Either they'll wind up as a couple or one will have unrequited feelings for the other and both of those things would get in the way of the story. You could just not include any romance but people would ship it and get fixated on it and that doesn't ever end well.

The only way out of it I could see is to make one of them gay. Speaking of which, you see girls with gay guy best friends all the time, but what about guys with a lesbian best friend? Has that ever happened? In comics or anywhere.

>>87450400
If only it were so easy these days with the internet. Ever watch ATLA? Yeah

>>87453506
>work spouses

The fuck is that?

>>87453608
Ron Swanson and Leslie Knope.

>>87453623
fuck off /tv/ that's a perfect example though

>>87445657
Because we live in a hideously repressed society of sexual self-loathing and hatred, despite it being a fundamental part of existence itself, meaning it all has to be forced and channeled manically into works made, never allowing men and women to just be humans telling stories. Instead, they must fuck. All things must fuck. To the detriment of emotion, story, sense, coherence, and enjoyment, they must be shipped, they must fuck, if they so much as stand near each other.

>>87452137
Ultimate Universe anon

>>87452137
This level of black cock lust has rotted this idiot's brain.

I've read all of Cloak and Daggers appearances up to recently and you fags are pathetic, "n-no not that universe, THIS universe" kek. Just admit you don't want to accept the idea of them being interested in each other, your racism is obvious.

Also, I don't go on here much anymore but recently you fags have been lobbying HARD for Misty/Danny in the mcu, so liking that pairing is okay but not this one? Lol you guys only like the pairing where the white man wins I guess.

>>87455950
>actual proof in the thread of main Cloak and Dagger being far from romantic
>no proof in thread of them being romantic

Burden of proof, buddy. You can whine all day long but until you provide actual evidence of your claim then you're just blowing hot air.

Also the reason 1610 Cloak and Dagger are romantic is to specifically distinct them from 616 Cloak and Dagger, who are not.

>muh racists
Funny you should say that because their pairing (platonic or otherwise) is what's actually racist. Black guy with darkness powers and white chick with light powers? Come the fuck on.

>>87456236
First of all, I'm not the same anon dickhead and mark my words, they'll make them romantic in the main universe, laugh and shrug it off now but with the social climate nowadays, you know I'm right.

Anyway with that said, goodnight losers.

>>87445657
My fav illustration.

>>87453566
>make one of them gay
still doesn't stop the shippers from ruining it.
The only successful brotp I've seen is Mako and Raleigh from Pacific Rim. And that's either because the fandom died out pretty quickly or I personally haven't seen anything.

>>87453770
That was a compelling response. Bravo, anon.

>>87456496

but where are her nipples?

>>87456428
They will because get their upcoming TV show

>>87445657
Well, in the original run, Cloak was obsessed with Dagger, and really wanted to break off all his shadow spurts into that ass. But she wouldn't have it, and she was in absolute control of him. Super grade friend zone. But he'd ruin any one else's chances to hook up with her.

>>87453770
You mean like with 4chan's obsession with purity and virgins, even though many of those same people also look at really disgusting porn?

>>87450400
Not so easy to ignore if shipperfags manage to make the creator put their ship in the show.

>>87461181
Purityfags are mainly an /a/ thing, and even there everyone is telling them how stupid they are.

>>87450400
Haha butthurt shipper detected

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>>87445657
I like it better when they go from lovers to friends.

>>87461721
It's more of a /r9k/ thing if anything.

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>>87448932
>>87448860

>scans please
>In b4 Ultimate Universe
>That doesn't count

They're kissed even 616 you cumeater

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>>87462391
>>87445657

>>87456236
This doesn't mean shit especially marvel said when cloak and dagger gets their show, it'll be a love story.

>>87452949
The only time that happens is when one of the friends is too ugly for the other or one is gay, we‘re sexual animals and our interactions with the opposite sex are based on the desire of fucking

>>87461721
Could've sworn I've seen them on this board too.

>>87445657
Because it's unbelievable for a man to simply be friends with a woman that dresses as slutty as a superhero.

>>87462651
What if he's bisexual? He can't be friends with anyone?