Is Disney the Best Studio Right Now?

They bought nearly all of the talented people.

>>87437926
Quality and Quantity

But why is Sony Pictures a JUST company?
>inb4 Ghostbusters 2016

>>87437926
They paid everyone off for their success. Both film critics and studios they have purchased like Pixar and Marvel.

>>87437926
A flop like Alice still took in almost $300M worldwide, doing three times overseas what it did domestic. A more floppy /co/-adaptation-remake from this year would be Pete's Dragon.

>>87437926
Not really. Pete's Dragon, BFG, and Alice were all steaming piles of shit

>>87438128
and they got the money to pay them off by being successful. why doesnt WB try that tactic for critics at least?

>>87437926
Laika.

>>87440205
Hey hey let's not get carried away here.

>>87437926
that's not Warner Bros / DC

Civil War was shit, nobody fucking died and Zemo was a joke.

I have soft hype for Rogue One, but after TFA I don't even know, shit was like bad fanfiction.

>>87437926
They just have a shitload of cash and a fantastic PR team. For every successful marvel formula movie that they dish out, a couple of duds pop out like anon said >>87439848

And out of those you listed, only the Jungle Book was really outstanding. But I agree they do dominate the box office

>>87438011
They are releasing an 'Emoji' movie.

They fucked up Spider-Man so badly that they had to go cap in hand to Marvel, to get them to fix it.

Couldn't even keep Adam Sandler on payroll, losing him to Netflix.

Have released After Earth, Aloha, ASM 2, Ghostbusters, Pixels and Paul Blart 2 in the last 3 years.

>>87437926
In money or quality?

>The Jungle Book, Captain America Civil War, Finding Dory, Doctor Strange
Mediocre

> Zootopia
Good quality, but the amount of propaganda is grotesque. I can listen to hands rubbing during practically every scene.

>Moana and Star Wars Rogue One
Not released yet. Wont comment.

>Alice Through The Looking Glass
Complete shit


So if we are talking about money, good for them, but I suggest you moving to /biz/ to discuss money.

http://observer.com/2016/11/doctor-strange-is-marvels-latest-overblown-comic-book-car-crash/

People who ask nothing more for their money than a lot of nerve-scrambling computerized special effects might get through Doctor Strange, another in a long line of lengthy, stupid and unbearable Marvel Studios comic books on film, with minimal brain damage. Everyone else will see through it for the two hours of gibberish it really is and walk on by.

This one wastes the abilities of Benedict Cumberbatch and Rachel McAdams, who both obviously tossed critical perception to the wind and went for the money. None of it makes any sense, but logic is the last thing any of the minds attracted to this kind of junk want or expect. Trudging through the narrative sludge while dodging the flying 3-D gimmicks, the star plays Stephen Strange, an egomaniacal neurosurgeon who survives the impact of a catastrophic car crash with tissue damage so severe it wrecks his career. His only hope for healing his uncontrollably trembling hands is a place in Katmandu where Tilda Swinton, looking weirder than ever with a shaved head, materializes as The Ancient One, a wizard zombie who teaches him a lot of demented rubbish about parallel dimensions, multiple universes, time travel and mystical religions as well as providing a textbook glossary on how to retrain the spirit to heal the body. Soon Dr. Strange is levitating all over the place, harnessing energy from altered realities to defeat the Grim Reaper and ultimate hiss-boo villain Kaecilius (Mads Mikkelsen) before heading back to New York to save the universe. “It doesn’t make sense,” says Cumberbatch, in a red cape and ugly goatee. “Not everything does,” replies The Ancient One. “Not everything has to.” And that seems to be the governing philosophy behind this second-rate knock-off of everything from The Matrix to Ant-Man.

>>87442517
Directed by Scott Derrickson (Sinister) and typed on a word processor in what passes as a screenplay by Jon Spaihts and C. Robert Cargill, Doctor Strange is an awkwardly cliché-riddled mix of hamstrung imagination and bizarro reality. For characterization, dialogue, narrative arc, acceptable acting and coherence, go elsewhere. For CGI, there’s a place of many doors leading to the sanctums that rule the world, which allows the folks at Disney to waste money on locations in Hong Kong, Nepal and Hollywood. Open the New York door and you’re on Bleecker Street, where the spirits, sorcerers and pissed-off villains all end up flying through the air, skyscrapers turn upside down, and taxicabs sail through space. It’s astounding that a movie with so much action could be so boring. You stare at it, gobsmacked, and you don’t know whether to laugh or have your head examined.

>>87437926

It's not that disneys bad, but theyre so huge at this point they're basically stifling or assimilating other studio's before they can even be considered rivals.

It just leaves it with ((almost)) no competition to force to get better or do anything other than play it safe. Seems like especially recently they just haven't been trying with these movies at all.

Moana has potential, but it seems well within Disneys power to have just chosen an interesting setting but with a boring story.

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>>87441546

>Good quality, but the amount of propaganda is grotesque. I can listen to hands rubbing during practically every scene.

what propaganda? the whole message was "everyone is prejudiced some more, some less"

>>87442594

>Moana has potential, but it seems well within Disneys power to have just chosen an interesting setting but with a boring story.

it's going to be about competition between man and woman.so you're right about this one.

>>87442898
Zootopia had Gynocentric propaganda showing a weak short woman (Judy) being a competent police officer which is bullshit.

Not to mention the story was very obviously about multiculturalism and living with others, who can still have the very instinct to KILL you.

>>87442966

yes, but she had to work twice as much as others to prove she IS capable.They treated her like token bunny she never wanted to be.

they HAD that instinct, they dont have it anymore anymore.

>>87443043
The mob boss says that though the animals are evolved? They still got that primal side of them somewhere buried within.

Also the problem is that women are portrayed and celebrated as everything they've never been in media. No amount of hard work will ever make a woman as good as a man, especially at a job like being a cop. I feel sorry for boys watching this shit. They'll end up believing women are smart, capable, love you for who you are, etc.

Disney has always been the biggest shit house of lies when it comes to presenting women as everything they've never been.

>>87443172
>>87442966

Feels like in a world with far more varied sentient creatures would require different types of cops as well.

It probably would have been more realistic to have Judy be specialized in only certain duties, i.e ground chases with any animal as big as she is or smaller ((which is probably a fair bit, considering how prevalent small mammals are in Zootopia)) and maybe general investigation shit, considering that she's fast and small enough to get into smaller space that the wolves/bears couldn't.

I mean, realistically there would probably be a fair few mouse cops too, considering there's ((seemingly)) multiple districts where the population is entirely small mouse like animals, and even Judy was way too big to be there.

Basically, instead of just going for a 'you can do whatever you want no matter what' message, it should have been more of a 'you need to be proud of whatever special traits you have because they could be useful someday blah blah' one.

>>87443315
Basically Monsters University's ending. The difference is that Mike? He's a male character so he has to deal with reality and he can never do his dream job.

Judy? She's female to tell a female NO. That she cannot do something is politically incorrect. And that's why Judy can do whatever she likes, because the writing commands it. Seriously pay attention to how female characters are created, written, executed, and portrayed. That's the real problem with the propaganda Disney makes.

Look at the upcoming Moana movie, look at the upcoming Gigantic movie you can smell the estrogen in them. Disney makes movies to satisfy twat customers AND beta males with no dignity who don't see how their sex is being insulted and emasculated in the Disney films.

Though to be fair Disney is hardly the only company portraying men as incompetent buffoons and the like. Think the only time recently that Disney did a passable lead? Hiro from BH6 and that's because he's Asian, a minority. To portray an Asian like an idiot even though it's a fact Asians are the smarter race when it comes to robotics (Hiro's specialty) would be Disney stepping on Asian people's toes. However Fred the white guy? Complete buffoon. As for the black dude? Disney has long since stopped thinking of blacks as minorities which is why he's neurotic, why the token black dude in Milo Murphy is neurotic, and why in Star Wars Ep 7 the black dude is a bitch boy towards Rey the white vagina sue.

Disney operates under a simple method, portray vagina characters as superior in some or all ways to male characters.

>>87443494

I'm not saying Judy getting a free pass to be the most perfect cop ever despite the fact that she's a rabbit isn't cheap as shit, just that there was potential there, even for her to actually succeed at being a cop, if they at least focused on showing off stuff that a rabbit could do that the general police officers ((wolves/bears)) couldn't.

It seemed like they were kind of going in that direction during the chase through the mouse district, because god forbid if one of the normal officers tried to pursue through there, it would have been a disaster.

But nope, Judy, as a rabbit, apparently can build up enough force to deliver a strong hit to a rhino and the fact that she's a rabbit is basically just dropped when the whole 'carnivores are evil' thing starts.

But yeah, again, it IS cheap what they did, but in a world like Zootopia where there would be so many different situations depending on species that the police force probably could have been shown to actually need smaller mammals or even mice to do work in certain areas, not even talking just paperwork shit, just patrols and work within their size group where other larger animals would just cause a mess.

>>87441478
They cancelled Genndy Tartakovsky's Popeye movie for a fucking Emoji movie, who said fuck it and went back to Cartoon Network to finish Samurai Jack after the boss change.

>>87443494
>>87443623

Judy is hasty, her boss scolded her for the little rodentia chase, she wanted to prove herself but he was right, she should listen to the rhino cop.

>>87443926
And then there that unintentionally racist speech against predators which plunged the city into racist chaos and ruining her friendship with Nick, combined that to her jumping to conclusions about the Night Howlers makes Judy not that perfect as a protagonist.

>>87437926
Well, mathmatically, when you produce a large amount of movies than either studio all year
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You buy out all the good shit
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You have the money for the proper advertising
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You're fucking Disney

You're probably going to win.

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>>87443982
>CGI Popeye Movie
>New Samurai Jack

I think we all know who won here.

>>87437926

Personally, I found most of Disney's recent releases to be unmemorable from a storytelling perspective, save Wreck it Ralph. But I will grant that out of the blockbuster churners, Disney spends its budgets most widely. It knows where it can be average, and where it needs to wow mainstream audiences. It knows which controversial subjects to shy away from, and which trending messages to embrace.

It's not good art. It's good understanding of the market through research and consistent application of formula.

>>87444293
Big Hero 6 was also good, since the core of the movie was about how the ideal of becoming a vigilante to murder people that wrong you is a bad thing.

>>87444293
*widely=wisely

>>87441478
>They fucked up Spider-Man so badly that they had to go cap in hand to Marvel, to get them to fix it.
>Marvel to fix it
Lol

>>87442966
Meanwhile Angry Birds of all fucking movies was about how multiculturalism can't work

>>87445334

that was surely unintentional.

>>87445405
>Have a story focus on an angry cynic who is an outcast on a naive, liberal island.
>The main character is RED and is shaped like a PILL
>The judge who hates the character RED. He happens to be very liberal and preaches about freedom and liberty. He sends Red to an anger management class (aka jail) by law in order to fix him up and make him become normal like the rest of the other birds.
>The Pigs arrive to the island unbeknownst of the bird community. They're green like Mohammad's favorite color.
>The leader of the Pigs has a Muslim-like beard. The rest are caricatures of everything the Muslim world hates (i.e, cowboys, pigs, American culture, etc.). They follow a system of a kingdom unlike the Birds who have a court system.
>Red is suspicious of the Pigs because they destroyed his house. (His house was located on the edge of the border away from the rest of the birds.)
>The Judge disregards Red's suspicion because it was "making [their] guests feel unwelcome" and that "his opinion is not needed."
>Red decides to go and look for the Mighty Eagle for help.
>Mighty Eagle stands for freedom and liberty as stated by the Judge.
>Mighty Eagle is very lazy. He only cares about his 13 trophies (13 colonies), he listens to 80's music, and he pees into the Lake of Wisdom.
>He wants Red to figure out the problem himself. (To put it simply, the Eagle represents America.)
>Meanwhile, the Pigs destroys the bird community when the inhabitants were too distracted by their gifts. They steal the birds' eggs (aka unborn children) and they want to eat them.
>The birds go to Red for help, and he decides for them to go after the Pigs.
>They destroy the Pigs' entire island while getting their kids back.
>Mighty Eagle takes most of the credit as seen with the new statue.
>However, Red is now welcomed by the community despite being an angry cynic.

>>87445405
And let's not forget:
>(H)Amnesty International
>The Coexist Bumper Sticker
>Lesbirds seen throughout the movie (Liberal Bird Island)
>"Sound of the Police" (Fuck the Police meme)
>"Something's not KOSHER with these pigs." because pigs are haram and un-kosher.
>Anger Management class is basically jail for those who don't follow the beliefs of the liberal majority
>The Judge looks like Angela Merkel.
>The Judge's name is Peckinpah, named after film director Sam Peckinpah.
>Peckinpah's films generally deal with the conflict between values and ideals, and the corruption of violence in human society. He was given the nickname "Bloody Sam" owing to the violence in his films. His characters are often loners or losers who desire to be honorable, but are forced to compromise in order to survive in a world of nihilism and brutality.
>The fact that the film is independently funded by Rovio, a Finnish game company
>The fact that Finland (and the other Scandinavian countries) have been suffering from Islamic immigration
>The fact that the screenwriter Jon Vitti doesn't look like to be a Democrat. http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-political-tourists-flock-to-new-hampshire-for-up-close-view-2016-2

But continue lying to yourself until you get cucked by a refugee thanks to the PC nature.

>>87447998

I'm from Poland, i dont buy "refugees welcome" bullshit.

>>87439848
They were all flops but not all shit.

>>87448058
Good for you, my good man.