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Retcon VI: The Retcon Gets Retconned
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>>87418685
So the woman Wanda thought was her mother was actually some Gypsy woman who adopted her from her real parents, Magneto and his wife, but no, she was her real mother after all, but no, she was her aunt and her real mother was someone else we never heard of before.

Where Miss America and the Whizzer fit in all this I don't know.
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>>87418732
> "You're responsible for the good stuff in me, mom. I'm still blaming Magneto for all the bad stuff."
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>>87418772
The whole reason Wanda and Pietro were retconned into being Roma/Gypsy in the first place is so their dad could use magic dolls to trap their souls, because in comic books, Gypsy = magic.
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>>87418841
Amazing how names are destiny in comics. I don't think Lee & Kirby intended the name "Scarlet Witch" as anything except a cool mutant name, but because of the name, she's been involved in magic/witch stories since at least the early '70s.
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>>87418875
Do you think we'll ever find out why everyone wanted them to think Magneto was their father, if he wasn't?
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>>87419022
Seeing Ghost Agatha Harkness reminds me that Vision and Scarlet Witch are basically Marvel's Casper and Wendy.
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>>87418721
Christ, Primer has a less convoluted plot than Wanda's childhood
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>>87419066
So as the series approaches its (presumably) ending, we can expect to see a lot of references to the early one-shot stories and why they were important.

(This is kind of a standard format now in TV and some comics: first half of the run one-shot stand-alones, second half one big story.)
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>>87418658
These covers are godlike
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>>87419033
Is Wanda going to end up Witch Supreme?
I know Marvel loves adding Supreme to things.
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>>87419353
kek
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>>87418752
To be fair, Mags was the one who made her and Pietro into supervillains.
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>>87418752
Well he did force them to be super villains
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>>87419138
I don't know how a series that Marvel didn't consider a priority (Robinson had to push for them to do something with Wanda) wound up with maybe the best covers in the business, but there we are.
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This is going to most likely be getting 15 issues, right?
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>>87420118
Probably. Amazon solicted a trade with issues 11-14 but the solicit for 14 doesn't say anything about it being the final issue, so maybe one or two more?
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So, Wanda is Marvel's Hawkman (re: convoluted backstory)?

>>87419090
dat ass
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>>87418875
I really wonder what Remender had in mind. We know he had some unrevealed "hidden truth" about the twins but then he had a bad breakup with Marvel
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>>87420439
He ended by teasing another Evolutionary War so I assume it would have been related to that.

Fortunately Marvel has lots of other events left to do remakes and/or sequels of.
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>>87418752
>>87419683
>>87419867
How many poeple have been their father? I only recall Magneto and Whizzer
Did Whizzer had any influence on Wanda and Pietro like Magneto?
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>>87421324
Not really any influence, but he did appear as their father occasionally to get yelled at for running around in costume at his age.

He just never got that Jay Garrick level of respect.
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>>87421409
Poor Whizzer. At least he is not the father of two ungrateful kids.
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b-ump
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>>87421409
Huh, I didn't know Wanda started wearing those bracelets so early.

Everything was John Byrne's idea I guess.
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>>87419353
The solicits for Axis actually had her becoming "Sorceress Supreme" while she was evil/inverted but it never made it into the comic.
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>>87420180
Her backstory is less convoluted than his.
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>>87418658
How long before someone retcons THIS retcon?
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>>87422851
Her backstory is still convoluted.
Who's Marvel Hakwman then? Spider Man?
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I'm enjoying how Robinson is still committing to the done in one stuff. And still telling this big over arching story to fix the dumb retcons about Wanda and Pietro's parents.
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>>87418721
And let's not forget Bova, that lying cow who's responsible for all this confusion and drama over the years.
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>>87421409
Is this parody? LMAO THE WIZZ
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>>87418772
Don't the Puppet Master's puppets also come from Wundagore?
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>>87418929

I figured it would be revealed as High Evolutionary bullshit at some point. He made Bova think that and tell Magneto because reasons. (Mags and Quicksilver have the same hair color)

I think whatever the original retcon separating them from the Wizzer and Miss America stands
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>>87418929
I think the easiest solution would be to reveal it was all Immortus' doing. He does have a history of fucking with Wanda for weird reasons.
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>>87423074
>I think the easiest solution would be to reveal it was all Bendis' doing. He does have a history of fucking with Wanda for weird reasons.
Fixed
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>>87418721
Wait, so why did Marya never try and contact her children? Just because she's ugly?
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Scarlet Witch 012 (2017) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/AUjpaCa7/file.html

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Scarlet Witch 001 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www80.zippyshare.com/v/z6p4qQ23/file.html

Scarlet Witch 002 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
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Scarlet Witch 003 (2016) (3 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
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Scarlet Witch 004 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
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Scarlet Witch 005 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
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Scarlet Witch 006 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www119.zippyshare.com/v/YdOd6vd4/file.html

Scarlet Witch 007 (2016) (3 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www119.zippyshare.com/v/yzd6KyzC/file.html

Scarlet Witch 008 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
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Scarlet Witch 009 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www95.zippyshare.com/v/jZthQBSf/file.html

Scarlet Witch 010 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/npBMgdZi/file.html

Scarlet Witch 011 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Slayer)
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>>87423074

Waid seems busy with Vision and Kang in Avengers rn tho
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>>87418841
>Pink Witch
>Ridiculous

Just don't say that in front of Lina Inverse...
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>>87418658
I want to make sweet love to this cover.
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>>87418819
wasn't nightcrawler's adopted circus family gypsy? i don't think they were magic
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>>87423195
It really feels weird.
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>>87425335
His cousin was, IIRC
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I love Wanda!
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>>87420180
Hawkman is convoluted but mostly relevant.

Hers is layers of retcons, most of whuch can be dismissed.

But yeah. The twins are Marvel's most convoluted.
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>>87425392
i don't know anything about that. i think you made it up.
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>>87418929
All this run around and Magneto will still end up being the father.
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>>87426013
Unless Fox gives up the rights, I highly doubt it.
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>>87425392
>>87425462
Yeah, his adopted mother turned out to be a gypsy witch and his adopted sister was also a witch and, also, he had sex with his adopted sister.

Throw in Doom's mother and others I'm forgetting, and gypsy/Roma witches in comics are almost as common as science geniuses.
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Ehhh, eventually this will all be retconned away, and the twins will be Magneto's kids again, cos them not was all due to Wanda's reality-altering powers.
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>>87418752
to be fair, the rethoric matches
>mom is good, dad was the asshole
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>>87418841
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>>87418819
>because in comic books, Gypsy = magic.

Much better than the IRL European stereotype of Gypsy = crime.
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>>87419022
>>87419033
So this thing "killing magic" isn't the same thing as the Empryicl thing "killing magic" in Dr. Strange?

I was assuming up till now that the storylines were linked.
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>>87427645
Magneto is still their dad in just about every X-Men adaptation (including all the X-Men cartoons and the X-Men movie version of Quicksilver). I just can't see how that won't influence a new generation of writers and editors, once the movie boom is over, to go back to what they know.

Of course by then cape comics will probably be read by about 5 people in the world, but those 5 people will want to see Magneto as their dad again.
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>>87428252
I thought there was some kind of magic crossover brewing too but it seems like this has nothing to do with Doctor Strange at all. Maybe because they're from different editorial offices, or maybe because giving Wanda a book was a last-minute choice (hence the lack of an artist)
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>>87419656
>Thinks I'm joking
She will go to the very end of The Witchs Road and Eternity will be there to give her The Wand of Witchcraft and a Mirror made of silver fire that can teleport her anywhere or something and tell her that she no longer needs to call upon the power of what's his eyeball.
>>87422462
That could have been interesting if done right, what would it say about Wanda that she qualified for the mantle only by becoming evil?
Got a link?
>>87423195
She's not their mother, she's their aunt. Mum comes in >>87419022.
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>>87418721
So what are the odds that the next writer to get a crack at her will give her a new set of parents?
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>>87428386
>She's not their mother, she's their aunt.
Doesn't matter, she still raised them like her own children. Why would she never try and contact them?
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>>87428386
But Eternity is chained up.
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>>87428386
http://www.mycomicshop.com/search?q=Axis%20%205 "The new Sorceress Supreme comes for revenge on Doom." In the comic she came for revenge on Doom but with no new title (snazzy outfit though).

>That could have been interesting if done right, what would it say about Wanda that she qualified for the mantle only by becoming evil?

Everybody gets more powerful when they're evil. Look at House of M Scarlet Witch vs. regular "oh, I can't even give mutants their powers back any more" Scarlet Witch.
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>>87426946
So they should be vampires instead?
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>>87427814
that's a trope, as old as time itself
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>>87428788
>That time she was possessed by her homeland's deity of evil
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>>87428435
It's Eastern Europe, they don't have news there.
>>87428463
I admit that isn't something this comic would be allowed to fix, maybe Infinity as witchcraft is female?
>>87428788
Thanks, I'm somewhat disappointed that they couldn't fix the description given how long it's been since that event.
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