I love the show but cant stand this cunt. Anyone else agree?

>>87412899
He was one of my favorite characters desu. Also, did anyone else hate the ending?

>>87412899
No, Greg is amazing. He has all the funniest lines

I liked greg, he had a lot of really funny lines.I personally would have preferred if was toned down a little though, but overall I like him.

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>>87412963
why did you hate the ending

>>87412899
How can people hate Greg when Wirt was the unbearable douche of the group?

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I heard in the first draft he dies

no man, greg is pretty sweet

>>87413143
i wanted wirt to stay and be with beatrice

>>87413172
you like LOLSORANDOM!!! the character? Wirt could be pretty annoying too but Greg was on another level. I still love the show but Greg kills my enjoyment when I rewatch it

>>87413174
You heard wrong. He died in the final draft, too.

>>87413208
we all wanted that

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This show inspired me to make my own rock buddies a few years back and thats a rock fact

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>>87413243
You didn't like Wirt's ethnically ambiguous girlfriend?

>>87413291
Beatrice and him had more chemistry.

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>>87413291
...

>>87413172
4chan is full of miserable assholes who identify with Wirt, instead of Greg's childlike innocence

>>87412899
Agree
Hated his stupid voice.
That song was the unquestionable low point of the series.

>>87412963
>Also, did anyone else hate the ending?

I could take or leave the ending, but I loved the second-to-last episode, with the flashback explaining how the story started. One of my favorite twists in anything ever.

>>87412899
>Anyone else agree?
more or less, yeah.

>>87412899
Absolutely. Annoying cunt

>>87413309
>you'll never date a girl who's an egg

Fml

>>87413309
i want to fertilize that egg

>>87413674
I actually like the ending, everyone gets a happy ending, and you can see how wirt has grown through his experience it is almost flawless one of those flaws being not enough beatrice

>>87413309
>STEVE THE EGG
>STEVE THE EGG

>>87412899
He's annoying but not that bad, really.
Plus he got some fun moments.

>>87413309
YOU HAVE TO EAT AAAAL THE EGGS

>>87415321
don't forget that the beast couldn't break him, and he actually has some pretty good lateral thinking like with the sliver spider web and golden comb of honey

>>87414091
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x-JVXkd8SQ

>>87415383
Yeah, Wirt wants to be a hero, Greg actually is one. Wirt struggles to be as good as Greg. Good thing he makes it.

>>87415565
>Wirt wants to be a hero, Greg actually is one
Except Wirt was the one who saw through the Beast's game and killed him for good.

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>>87415565
I feel like Beatrice was a bit of a bitch in the show and was insensitive.
Seriously she almost lead both Wirt and Greg to their deaths so she could be human again.

>>87415605
looks like they both ended up having traits that were admirable, and we could stand to learn from both of them, not just one or the other

>>87415629
she thought they only needed to do yard work, and was willing to take their place as mindless slaves when she found out what auntie actually wanted

she cared about them more than herself

>>87415633
Pretty much.

>>87415652
Right, even though in a way she sounds like the kind of character that would tell you to go play in traffic, I can literally hear her voice uttering something like that.

>>87413224
>LOLSORANDOM!!!
He's a child.

>>87412899
I was annoyed with him but grew to appreciate his role in the story in the end

>>87413291
His ambiguously brown girlfriend is the best looking girl in that photo. Beatrice is still best girl

>>87412899
>cant stand this cunt
Off yourself.

>>87415178
he woke up next toSAUSAGES

>>87413291
None of them looked like THAT. Honestly this mini-series had one failing and it was character design. Couldn't stand those geometric stick figure designs.

>>87416130
I thought it added to the comfy-ness (I know it's a stupid meme word) because they reminded me of animal crossing characters which is equally comfy around autumn

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So the unknown is the afterlife right?

>>87413674
The twist was shit.

>>87413674
That flashback episode was genius. The whole time I thought this show took place in older era.
Absolutely loved the twist.

>>87416762
Same. Blew my mind the first time I saw it. Especially Gregs elephant reveal

>>87412899
Oh I had the same feeling for a very long time.
He improves towards the end though

>>87415782
>the "children can't help but be annoying cunts" defense
I interact a lot with kids and some of my friends have them. Children aren't annoying fuck-ups by default, it's a character trait.

>>87412899
I do.

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>>87416130
Does Raggedy Ann have to slap a bitch?

>>87412899
Easily the worst character and his song about potatoes and molasses was terrible.

>>87413674
A friend of mine told me about the show, and told me to stick with it, saying it'd all make sense at the end.

So I was always expecting some kind of twist. Although frankly, with media like this (cutesy on the outside, creepy on the inside), you can almost guarantee they'll be some kind of twist near the end.

The beast was a neat villain. Not too edgy, not too flamboyant, and just the right amount of mystery to him.

He's like 6. I'm pretty sure when you were young, you were pretty damn annoying.

>>87421886
As someone who has to babysits his nephews a few times each month I can say I've never seen a 6 years old as annoying as Greg.

I couldn't watch past the first episode because of him.

Greg is the show. If you hate Greg then you hate the show. Same with the ending. Step it the fuck up /co/.

>>87422541
Not at all. I love the show and like the ending but loathe Greg, who's a little disobedient piece of shit. Where is your god now

>>87421886
As another anon who interacts a lot with small children, nuh uh. Kids have different characters. Being annoying isn't a result of being a kid, it's a result of being an annoying person. Or possibly having shit upbringing. Or both.

>>87422620
You don't really understand the show if you characterize Greg as a disobedient piece of shit.

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>>87412899
Shit taste alert

>>87418711
Damn I only just realized why they made that decision for their noses

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Agreed. The only time he isn't a rampant piece of shit is in Into the Unknown.

Every other episode, he's incredibly irritating.

>>87412899
Lots of people seemed to have problems with him. I've shown this series to several people and in my experience, if you have children or you find young kids cute, Greg is actually enjoyable. If you can just overlook him, you won't mind him though you won't enjoy him. Understandable for those who had annoying younger siblings and this reminds of that.

>>87412963
I loved the ending. What's to not like about it? Both protags grew as characters, plus some other great niceties, and no it wasn't all just a dream.

>>87413208
I can forgive you for that. I understand your feeling.

I kinda wanted him to hook up with Lorna, despite her having seen some shit, or Beatrix. I can't decide though since Sarah is nice also.

>>87413172
It's called being the older brother of a much younger annoying child and also called being young yourself. He was neither unbearable or a douche.

>>87416130
I don't personally mind it but I do agree you have a point. I can't introduce the show to a few of my friends because they absolutely point-blank refuse to look beyond the art style.

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>>87422541
>Greg is the show. If you hate Greg then you hate the show.
What now? Pic related.

Can anyone recommend some material like OTGW? Could be comics, cartoons, pen and paper RPGs, movies, music, games, books, anything

I need something

>>87413291
I agree that Korra is best girl, wrong thread nevertheless

>>87413492
I'M THE HIGHWAYMAN.

>>87412899
I have only seen five episodes so far and I want to kill him and that bitchy blue bird.

>>87426074
I'd recommend watching the rest before someone here spoils it

>>87413174
In an earlier version of the story, Wirt was going to stay in the Unknown

>>87425827
If you like classic literature, read the short stories of Nathaniel Hawthorne

>>87425827
Anya's Ghost by Vera Brosgol (graphic novel)
Seconds by Bryan Lee O'Malley (graphic novel)
Coraline (film 2009)
Gravity Falls

>>87426660
I like all these things but, besides for maybe Coraline, they aren't like OtGW at all.

Greg and Wirt are both annoying in the well done way.

Greg was written as an actual kid. annoying without pattern and sometimes a smartass but never an intelegent ass.

Wirt was also a good example of a kid being written well. he had moments of whinyness and selfishness but it wasn't all the time. he didn't learn an obvious, 190 degree turn lesson, but he didn't learn nothing.

I'm impressed by how much they both seemed like actual kids.

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>>87426660
>>87426777
Thanks so much anons

things are hard lately

I appreciate the recommendations

greg is like half of the show though

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Greg was impossible to discourage. People who don't like him have no soul and a black heart.

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>>87412899
He does get some character growth in the last episodes that really put his character in perspective I think

>>87412899
could have done without the potatoes and molasses song. That whole episode was pointless actually.

>>87425271
Greg is the character that most embodies the spirit and ethos of the show.

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>>87413030
Yeah, my only nitpick was when Greg didn't react at all to monsters and other horrific things until the finale. I know it was played up for laughs, but even quirky characters like Mabel are capable of showing fear to fit the tone of the situation.

>>87426777
They each deal with the supernatural, and for at least two of those, they deal with faerie-esc elements. Coraline especially. Plus they all have the twist of the being in modern times.

He didn't say quite what he wanted, and these are some good supernatural stories I personally like a lot.

>>87425827

Also I forgot to add: the game series "Changeling the Dreaming" by White Wolf publishing might be of interest to you. The original version, not "the Lost" series. It is a game-system, not a game exactly. So you'd need a GM who was willing to work in that world. But Coraline, OTGW, and others fit very neatly into its setting. They also kinda of promote a darker sort of faerie tale setting, but not required.

>>87425827
there is official OTGW comics

>>87427258
>character development is pointless

>>87427499
I agree he grew as a character but that episode was ass to the Nth degree.

>>87425827
ParaNorman has a similar northeastern America in Autumn vibe plus supernatural elements. I don't like it as much as OTGW, but I think it's pretty good.

And the rural Americana parts of the show reminded me of a few of Bill Peet's kids books. They might not be super similar, but they're great books.

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>>87425827
Coraline and Paranorman.

>>87425827
I think of OTGW as kind of an American version of Spirited Away. In a sense. I mean they're based on very different cultural references, but they both have a similar otherworldly vibe and a child protagonist who matures during the journey.

>>87413291
>Main female character+main male character become a couple
>It's terrible
>OTGW they don't get together
>It feels like a missed opportunity

I don't understand

>>87412899

this show was dumb.

>>87413492
Spinoff when?

>>87429300
One of the comics told his story

>>87417418
This. My sis studied child development and has worked with kids for years, and insists that her son just has a lot of energy.

No, he's a cunt. Because he was raised just like every other cunt.

>>87427830
>an American version of Spirited Away
I like that comparison. I wasn't too big on Spirited Away, probably because I didn't understand all the cultural Japanese references Japanese kids learn at that age.

>>87428752
Here's your (you).
What about it did you find dumb?

>>87412899
I liked him, but I can see why people could be annoyed by him. If anything though, I was more annoyed by his older brother.

>>87412899
But Greg was right the entire time.

>>87430648
>Annoyed by gnome Dipper
Why?

>>87416668
It feels more like a book of olde Victorian era child stories.

The absurdity of the stories make it the perfect explanation.

Does anyone understand what I talk about when I say this show has an interesting atmosphere? It makes me yearn for something that I do not know, and reminds me of things I've never experienced. This is especially prominent in the pumpkin and school episode..

>>87430993
I don't know if this helps you to put it into words, but I get the same feeling you're talking about from both this show and from the Winds In the Willow.

>>87430993
I feel you, I think. It's got tons of old-timey influences that not a lot of shows do. Who would expect a cartoon from 2014 to reference the 1923 Alice's Wonderland or The Little Rascals? Not a lot of shows have such an Autumn feel either.

And The Blasting Company gave the music a wonderful 19th or early 20th century sound.

>>87430588

everything was too random, which ok yeah it's a cartoon and it's established a "setting" in which weird shit like this happens a lot, but after seeing adventure time, it just didn't click.

the kids were annoying, especially the little brother. i guess i only liked the blue bird.

What was your favourite song from the show?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fMsowmxKzA

>>87432373
Come Wayward Souls

>>87432373
Hard to say. Over the Garden Wall probably.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmORatsGUC8

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>>87432373
Weren't there only around 6/7 songs? Most of which were short?

Anyway, probably the Woodsman theme. I've got a serious hard-on for music box music.

Only thing I wish was the main theme song was longer. Besides that solid 9/10 show

https://soundcloud.com/mondotees/the-blasting-company-into-the-unknown

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>>87412899

>>87434047
It is if you staple the ending and opening versions together
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHERW5GT_Tk

>>87416668
It's purgatory. Beatrice was named after a character in Dante's inferno. The Beast is the devil.

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Beast was 10/10

This show is almost perfect. I can't find anything wrong with it.

>>87434387
Why couldn't he just tend to the lamp himself?

>>87434203
This would have been helpful if he edited them together better

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>>87434537
Because fear, loneliness, and sickliness doesn't create itself. Other people tend to make it.

>>87434537
Fire bad, he could but it wouldn't be as powerful compared to having someone else do it, the lamp wouldn't allow him to do it, or he simply can't do it because it would mean he would have to reveal himself to people and they wouldn't trust that ugly motherfucker.

>>87434229
>Beatrice was named after a character in Dante's inferno
Paradiso, not Inferno. And there's no official source that says that's her namesake. It's just fan conjecture.

>It's purgatory. The Beast is the devil.
I'm not a fan of that theory. "Everything is Christian mythology" is an overdone trope. There's certainly some kind of after-life connection, but I don't buy that it's purgatory specifically. And the Beast is not that much like the Christian devil. Check out this interview with Pat McHale.

>http://manuscriptsburn.blogspot.com/2015/02/behind-potatoes-and-molasses-interview.html

>Your interpretation makes sense to me. But maybe it's not only about life and death, maybe it's also about reality versus fantasy, and about dreams versus wakefulness. The Unknown is literally the unknown. There are stories that were once told, and are gone forever. Words that have been spoken and forgotten. Ideas that have been thought, but lost. And there's plenty of stuff mankind has never thought of, and will never think of. The Unknown is all that stuff. If there is more to the universe than what humans can perceive (and of course there is) then maybe everything that can ever be conceived is floating around somewhere unseen and unknown in some abstract way. So maybe Wirt and Greg get a glimpse of it, and make sense of these abstract concepts the best way they can understand it (goofy cartoon stories). Or maybe Wirt and Greg, and everyone else in the show, are just some made up characters used to express some ideas that would have otherwise disappeared.

Sure, Quincy Endicott was a real person, but the people in the tavern were fiction archetypes who didn't have names. It doesn't make sense for them to be in purgatory. I think they were in the Unknown because they were "forgotten stories", not because they died. The Tome of the Unknown narration describes it as a place "where long forgotten stories are revealed to those who travel through the woods".

>>87434676
He wouldn't necessarily need to reveal himself to people, he'd just need to encourage them to give up so they turn into trees.

Speaking of which, I wonder what happens if you die in that place. I suppose for Wirt and his brother it'd mean death in the real world, but for people already living there there's no answer.

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>>87412899

What are you, simple? Greg had some of the best songs and episodes.

>>87434537
My theory is "that's just the nature of The Beast". His existence just requires that someone else keeps his lantern burning.

Of course that makes it weird that the tavern keeper thought whoever has the lantern is the Beast.

>>87434676
>>87434537
>>87434672

I thought he DID have the lamp originally, but the woodsman tricked him somehow and stole it. Then he in turn deceived the woodsman by convincing him his daughter's soul was trapped inside and needed to be fueled by the oil from the human-trees (though at the time the woodsman didn't realize the trees used to be people).

>>87434764
The question isn't who's the owner, it's why can't he just use the lamp himself.

>>87434826

Did they mention that he can't? At the end there he seemed pretty desperate to get it back himself, and he even tried to get the woodsman to return it to him earlier.

>>87434875
>At the end there he seemed pretty desperate to get it back himself, and he even tried to get the woodsman to return it to him earlier.
My interpretation was that that was all reverse psychology on his part. He was goading the Woodsman into continuing the work. He wanted the lantern to seem important because the Woodsman was having second thoughts.

>>87434875
>>87434921
I saw it as he knew that the woodsman figured it out and didn't know what would happen to the lamp if he didn't get it back. Although tricking him makes more sense

>>87434764
That is true, but I still like my idea better that the symbology is that man fuels his own sadnesses and gives up. There's no magical beast that forces you give up. Its you. (Or yer environment but then we're just going into the philosophical shithole to Wonderland)

>>87435076
Maybe it's just old demon restriction rules or something, like he can't power it himself due to the powers that be.

Wouldn't mind know how his soul got trapped in the lantern in the first place.

>>87415629
She was desperate to save her family from a life of eating worms. And in the end, she couldn't go through it.

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>>87413243
I gotchu, famalamadingdongawopdopadoobopawombamboo

>>87435307
cute

>>87432026
You're not even trying, fucking faggot.

>>87413208
I agree that Wirt should have gotten with the bird.

Does anyone know a link to the edited full song that doesn't have the endings sounds and just the music

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>>87435307

All three Wirt ships are so good.

>>87434229
Nope. It's the faerie lands in a fairytale style. Fits much better into that one, whereas you have to shoehorn pretty hard to fit everything into Dante's world.

Though I think McHale left it open for both parties if they want to see either.

>>87434537
>trick some sucker into doing it for you
>offer some other sucker the same deal
>first sucker has now lost hope
>+1 edelwood

>>87434695
>And the Beast is not that much like the Christian devil.

You don't even need to check the interview for material on this one. He simply doesn't act like the Devil according to Christian mythos, common or uncommon sources. He is more like the classical fairytale Beast of the woods.

>but the people in the tavern were fiction archetypes who didn't have names.
Who says though? They could easily have been real and chose to embrace a new identity they found within this new realm. Wirt basically did that, only he returned, a new more confidant young man and accepting of his brother, his family, and his role in life.

>There's certainly some kind of after-life connection,
Why do you say that? Is this because you saw the tombstones at the end? Hardly conclusive. Back in those times, people could go missing and after a while loving families would set up a grave for them, even if they never found the body. Was not uncommon back then, especially for the rich.

>>87435122
>That is true, but I still like my idea better that the symbology is that man fuels his own sadnesses and gives up. There's no magical beast that forces you give up. Its you. (Or yer environment but then we're just going into the philosophical shithole to Wonderland)

I like your idea of man fueling his own sadness, but you need to recognize, the Woodsman never did. He never gave up until he realized he had been tricked. He stoutheartedly struggled each and every day to keep what he thought was his daughter's soul alive and safe. The man never gave in.

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>>87435134
>Maybe it's just old demon restriction rules or something, like he can't power it himself due to the powers that be.
>
>Wouldn't mind know how his soul got trapped in the lantern in the first place.

Good questions. It highlights the fact that Christian mythos Devil has never had his soul trapped in anything, let alone a tiny lantern, and you can pretty much bet it’s never going to happen. This evidence alone should be enough to convince you that the Beast is some other type of … beast.

>>87436364
Right.

>>87412899
I think the show is mediocre because of him

>>87437277
>Why do you say that?
The tombstones combined with the fact that Wirt and Greg got there after having a brush with death. I don't thinks it's the afterlife itself, just afterlife-adjacent.

>>87413208
>>87413243
>>87435307
>>87436066
>Was about to hand out those two brothers to die
>Still felt the need to insult Wirt all the time
Yeah, no that bitch deserves to die alone.

>>87437523
as far as she knew, they only had to do yardwork, and she was willing to give herself up in their place after learning its true purpose because they mean too much to her[\spoiler]

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>Not liking potato and molasses boy

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>>87425827
Little Nemo would be a good one, both the original Newspaper Comics, and the animated movie

also Hellboy: The Crooked Man hits some of that same Americana Horror that OTGW has

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Greg was cute and funny and wound up being the true heart of the show imo

I think it really helps that he was voiced by an actual kid, too

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>>87437290
In Irish folklore Stingy Jack trapped the Devil in his pocket by tricking him into turning into a coin and sticking it into his pocket which had a crucifix in it so he couldn't turn back..

I just marathoned the whole thing. My only complaint is that maybe Greg's VA could have done with a few singing lessons. He seemed to get better at it and voicing Greg in general as it went on, tho.

>>87437841
>>87437290

The devils been trapped in a sack, or up a tree, or in a brier patch in folklore all over the world.

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>>87434537
>Why couldn't he just tend to the lamp himself?
I I thought he did until the Woodsman kicked his ass and took it from him.

Wasn't there one scene where the Woodsman drops his guard and the beast edges toward taking the lantern back, but the Woodsman refuses to give it up?

>>87434537
Am I the only one who remembers when the Woodsman said "I fought you for the lantern before!" in 'Songs of The Dark Lantern'. That combined with the Tavernkeeper mentioning whoever carries the lantern "must be the Beast", there is no doubt in my mind that the Beast COULD tend to his lantern himself if he were able to. But he couldnt because the Woodsman forcefully took it away from him. The Beast is probably a very weak creature as far as combat goes, his strength laying instead in intimidation, deception, and invoking despair. That, combined with the fact that he wouldn't dare risk anything happening to his lantern lest his flame were to burn out, meant he had to trick the Woodsman and later Wirt in order to ensure his own survival due to being unable to overpower either of them long enough to retrieve the lantern.

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>>87438075
That's what I thought. That originally the beast used the lantern, feeding on souls from behind the scenes, manipulating people and trying to keep them from ever making it home.

Then he picked a fight with the wrong guy and lost the lantern, so he had to come up with a new plan. Either somehow taking the woodsman's daughter, or making him believe that he had.

>>87424860
>not liking Greg
>Undertale shit
the fucking whole package, i bet you like SU too