Marvel Rage Purchasing

disgusting

"MAKE A CHANGE THEN BUY OUR COMICS. A BUY FOR DC IS A BUY FOR RACISM SEXISM AND ALL THE OTHER ISMS"

>>87393848
Where did you get that shit from this?

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>>87394012
Spencer LITERALLY said this.

Anyone got the screemshot?

>>87393848
Thankfully, everyone's catching wise to this and are actively calling Breevort and Spencer out on their bullshit

>>87394154
Funny thing is that later he started recommending people to buy diverse DC books, guy's a loony

>>87393824
Say if with me now, FUCK MARVEL. I unironically want Disney to step in at this point

>>87393824
Cmon man go down with dignity.
Like say "we had a good run".
Unless Marvel if firing you for not making a comic that reached 10-12 issues, just accept it.

>>87393824
Kek, if he has to beg like this it could mean the sales barely went up.

>you were always joking about this whole "Marvel is intent on making you rage purchase things"

/co/ didn't come up with that, it was from like Brevoort's formspring

>>87394807

Provocation works as a good way to bring publicity, but it isnt a sure-fire way of actually getting any money. You have to make sure theres an audience out there who gets curious about a product that certain group of people hate.

And in Marvel's case, there wasnt one. Tumblr is an audience that does not actually buy comic books despite making a lot of noise about them.

>>87394878

I'm not taking a stance on it's effectiveness. I'm telling OP that Brevoort has been open for years that they think angry fans buy more comics and Marvel capitalizes on that.

>>87394797
Stop deluding yourself. The preorders for the trade are through the roof and last week's comixology numbers came in and CW was only behind Saga. Marvel isn't being punished for the shit products they publish.

So either Brevoot is just stupid and is finally getting that this industry of people talking/blogging about comics isn't bringing in sales, or he's trying to pivot and get this new group to start buying comics out of fear of cancellation and he's twice as slimy.

>>87393824
Pathetic lowlife scum.
Not you, OP. Brevoort.

'Buy our comics to make a political statement'
Not because they're good comics, worth buying. Cause well, they're not.
Not because these SJW's got comics reading as a hobby, they don't.
But he could bait SJW's into buying them if that makes them feel they make a political stand. As if it's some kind of a revolution.
It would work, if SJW's were a minority.

>>87394436
That's the editor, m8.

>>87394979
Link for that?
I wanna see the numbers.

>>87394878
The problem is thst Marvel's model quasi-works because most of the people who buy every month, the majority of their consumers, are fucking MORONS.

You'll spot them in some of our really popular character threads. They will buy SPECIFICALLY because a book is either "important" or a travesty. Marvel doesn't fish for people with standards brcause they tend to either buy trades or only buy ongoings once they know they're good. The entire speculation-centric model of floppies makes delling to savvy consumers a fool's errand.

What did Remender tell him before he quit?

Did he call him a fat bloated fuck?

>>87395238

Sure, problem with Marvel currently is their latest stunt on pandering towards Tumblr by demonizing its old readerbase resulted in most of its old whales leaving for good, which is unprecedented. For a decade Marvel has been shit but kept afloat by the "whales" who religiously bought everything they shat out. But not anymore.

So this particular controversy/outrage selling came back to bite them in the ass and hard.

>>87395278
that's great if he did

>>87395113

I hate to break this to you, but buying multiple comics in a series is an endorsement of the content within that comic. It's often why there's a huge dropoff after a given Issue #1 of any new series/reboot/whatever - people didn't like the content and didn't want to see future issues.

>>87395319
The huge dropoff is because there's still a very large crowd of people that buy #1s to pay for their retirement

>>87395232
Catalogue.

>>87395354

Those people would be a bunch of fucking idiots.

So what are the chances Marvel permanently stops making comics and become a name brand that purely exist to market characters for films, television and merchandising?

>>87393824
>bendis and Slott have gone on twitter begging for pre-orders
>Tom Brevoort beggin people to buy Mocking bird
>Nick Spencer calling out their audience for not buying comics.

You reap what you sow marvel.

>>87395398

Anything is possible. As for the probability? I wouldn't put too much stock into it happening within the next five years unless the comics market completely collapses.

>>87395319
I know how it works. What's the point you're trying to make?
You think SJW's won't buy something just to make a statement of sorts?
Literally everyone who bought Mockingbird after the controversy, it was because of that.
"I buy to support the writer and her feminist agenda" not "I buy a comic I liked"
Because nobody liked it! Not even those SJWs did, when Cain fucked up Bobbi's rape subplot.
But when drones like these guys get told that buying this comic is good for their cause, they bite the bait hard.

>>87395376
no arguments here, but they still exist

>>87393824

someone is really mad here

>>87395398
Disney isn't going to let that happen, they would most likely fire everyone off than to actually kill off marvel.

>>87395438

>You think SJW's won't buy something just to make a statement of sorts?

Yes, and it won't hold up in the long run. Buying something for a "cause" doesn't generally work as a long-term strategy - mainly because it drains wallets - which is why boycotting companies is often the smarter move.

>>87395376
They sure are.
And there's at least a few thousand of them.

>>87395369
What catalogue? Just give me a link, man.

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>>87393824
>tom brevoort begging people to buy comics on twitter.

No really bendis, slott have both recently gone out and asked for people to pre-order their shit as if their life depended on it. How bad is marvel doing right now if there reduced to begging on twitter.

>>87393824
Haha oh wow. Marvel is Finished. Based Rebirth.

>>87395490
No, it won't hold up.
Marvel will have to bait again at a later time.
But they won't be as successful always.

It's different with a movie like Ghostbusters, for example, and it still tanked.
Comic issues though are part of a series, that requires to keep buying and keep spending.

>>87393824
Hopefully this backfires as hard as the female Ghostbuster controversy gimmick did someday.

>>87395438

Yeah, but that fame wont last for long. Those same drones are also followers of different fads, and they dont generally read or buy comic books, so its not going to result in a lot of sales overall.

>>87395550
>>87390924
MARVEL IS SAAAAVED
DC BTFO
WE WIN AGAAAAIN
AND I GET 0.10 BUCKS MORE

>>87395624
>AND I GET 0.10 BUCKS MORE
How the fuck do your employers even keep track of your shit posts?

>>87395624
These are best selling comics. These aren't sales numbers. For all I know their best selling comics, sold just a few dozen copies each.
It means fucking nothing. Give me actual sale numbers.

Aw fuck it, I shouldn't even been asking. I know already, digital sales are shit anyway.
Last year, print sales were $940 million and digital sales were $90 million. That's not just Marvel's ofcourse.

So even if Marvel sells digital copies, it still sells fewer than actual print copies and their prints selling are shit already.

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>>87393824

Will Marvel's failure serve as a lasting warning to all the other publishers that appealing to slacktivism doesn't make for a good profit return?

SJWs seldom vote with their wallet, let alone on progressive comics and video games.

>>87395703
Oh, I duly inform them of my shilling.

>>87395902
First step it's them admitting they failed.
So far, they're in denial.
Secondly, they should admit why they failed.
They'd never do that though...

>>87395484
>Disney isn't going to let that happen, they would most likely fire everyone off than to actually kill off marvel.

This, Disney bought Marvel for their IPs. They don't care about how company fares as long as they can cut their losses.

Electronic Arts has been doing pretty much the same thing on the video game market for years, buying out smaller, succesful studios, sacking their employees and relegating their franchises to other teams.

If Marvel goes tits up, then Disney will simply make a new team to work with Marvel IPs.

>>87396002
Disney firing idiots like Bendis and Brevoort?
I won't believe it till I see it happening.

>>87396138
And who would they hire instead? This industry is so scarce in real professionals now.

>>87394979
>and last week's comixology numbers came in and CW was only behind Saga.

That's not as good as you'd think it is for an event book.

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>>87393824

>Ugly hat
>Fat cheeks
>Neckbeard
>Alternates between signalling, whining and begging

Proof positive that Dobson wouldn't have a bright future before him even if he secured a gig in the comic industry.

>>87394012
Spencer started criticizing people who bought DC Rebirth comics because they weren't supporting diversity.

>>87396187
They'll defrost Walt and have him write instead.
First thing he's gonna do, relaunch Mighty Mouse and Howard the Duck.

>>87393824
Well at least he admit that tumblr don't read comics.

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>>87393824
>even his avatar is a hipster douche

>>87396293
>Walt
>doing something
>ever

>>87395990
>Secondly, they should admit why they failed.
>They'd never do that though..

That always gets me bout Marvel they're arrogant as fuck, even DC admits their fuck ups.

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>>87396311
>hipster douche
Brevoort is a fedora neckbeard, anon. Get it straight.

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>>87393824
>I thought you were always joking about this whole "Marvel is intent on making you rage purchase things" line of thought.
Why? He's flat-out stated it before. This isn't even the first time.

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>>87396354

>>87393824
Breevort doesn't exist in reality. He's never been able to figure out that his whole "if we piss people off they'll buy books" doesn't work in the digital age where people and get pissed off for free.

What he's seeing now is a much deserved result of that. People can do their whole outrage thing from single panels or pages posted out of context on tumblr and not spend a single cent.

>>87396328

The deeper you go into SJW rabbit hole, the more you are eager to believe that economy is a sham perpetrated to oppress.

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>>87396354
its the same thing at this point

>>87393824
>You know, /co/. I thought you were always joking about this whole "Marvel is intent on making you rage purchase things" line of thought

Considering they've outright stated as such, not much of a joke.

>>87394209
Yeah and what did he recommend?
Midnighter and Apollo (homosexuality), Wonder Woman (strong womyn), Cyborg (black male lead).
Even Pretty Deadly and Bitch Planet from Image (I think?) which are pretty notorious feminist comics.

>>87395398
They'll just bring the comics closer in line with MCU synergy.

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>>87396389

>Controversial

>>87395565
Any link or at least date.
So i know how far i have to go in the timeline?

>>87396717
>https://twitter.com/brianmbendis/status/769986386887933953

>http://www.theouthousers.com/index.php/news/136268-please-help-dan-slott-needs-more-clone-conspiracy-pre-orders.html

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>>87394154
Closests I got.

>>87397210
this picture is fucking retarded, spencer is using "diversity" in the normal sense not in the newspeak sense

>>87394154
Someone should check the archive to get Spencer saying "MISOGINISTS ARE WINNING, DON'T BUY REBIRTH, BUY MARVEL!"

>>87396989
Thx anon,
you are just kind.

>>87393824
How late to the fucking game are you? Brevoort has been saying this since Slott was put on Spider-Man.

>>87396989
Speaking of the Outhousers, Bleeding Cool just announced that Jude Terror left the Outhousers to write for Bleeding Cool.

>>87397210
But NuWally isn't being respected cause he's been shoved onto a teambook to once again be the team's token black guy.

>>87393824
>going from the industry top dog that could smear shit on pages and have it go into multiple prints to begging people to buy it
the most pathetic thing was Slott blaming retailers for not ordering enough of Clone Conspiracy

>>87397271
Makes sense, since Spencer is retarded.

>>87397421
he was in just Flash before though. What are you talking about?

>>87393824
Wait, what's Brevoort saying here that's wrong? He's saying people freaking out on social media don't actually go and buy the comics they're freaking out about. This is true.

>>87397210
Peter has had enough of Marvel treating him like shit.

>>87401383
It's the natural evolution from this >>87396389. Tom has probably since realised that rage-buying isn't actually as true as it once was, and so he's trying to nudge people back into the habit.

Nothing in the OP image is wrong. OP is just saying that he didn't believe Marvel used to piss people off on purpose as an actual strategy, but the fact that they're now outwardly trying to spin it into sales is damning in his eyes.

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>>87395354
>there's still a very large crowd of people that buy #1s to pay for their retirement

how's the jingle go?

Let's all laugh at an industry, that never learns anything tee hee hee

>>87397210

NuWally has also been appearing in the Flash book semiregularly (not every issue, but it's not like Robin appears in every issue of Batman either).

He's a kid side-kick. His point is to appear in the character he supports' book some of the time and any team book he's in. Which is exactly what they're doing with him.

Black-Wally has not been diminished by OG-Wally's return at all unless you count him now having to share a name with someone else.

>>87401855
I'm just now realising how awkward this shit is. Like Debbie and Black Debbie. Do the Wallies at least have different middle names or something?

>>87402416

original Wally is The Flash

>>87401721
They're idiots, but they exist. Hell, the insane number of variant covers for some #1s plays direct into that.

>>87402441
At the same time as Barry? Still seems pretty awkward.

>>87401852

It's hilarious how that jingle, which was made regarding the games industry, applies so well here.

>>87399298
What did he do though?

>>87402510
Yeah, and Jay Garrick is coming back eventually.
That'll be three guys running around called The Flash.

What happened in this particular comic that prompted this extremely obvious explanation of how businesses gauge public opinion?

>>87405002
>comic gets canceled due to poor sales
>writer goes on a twitter rant about how oppressed she is and that's why the book failed
>social media predictably responds with outrage

>>87405075
Oh, outrage from the girls not buying comics in the first place. I thought this was the usual fanboy rage purchasing. It's weird that he'd try that with an audience that's not nearly as driven by habit.

>>87405002
>>87405075
>writer goes on a twitter rant about how oppressed she is and that's why the book failed

That never happen, she got sick of criticism on twitter and took Tyler the Creator's advice and deleted her account and went to spend time with her kids instead.

In a case of life imitating South Park, everyone treated this like this was committing suicide, and the SJW "comics" media blew the whole thing out of proportion, insisting she was doxxed and harassed off the internet by misogynist comic fans.

>>87405075

It was more like people were angry with her for shitting all over Mockingbird and she cried she was being harassed. I don't think we've seen what kind of harassment she was facing but yeah that's basically the issue.

>>87405246
She never said she was harassed, she put a post up about it on her website.

>>87405246

>It was more like people were angry with her for shitting all over Mockingbird

this is bullshit, there aren't that many fans of mockingbird.

>>87405246

She wasnt harassed out of Twitter, it says so in her very own blog. The harassment was made up by clickbait media blogs after the fact:

https://chelseacain.com/blog/140-characters-plus-few-thousand-more-twitter-hubbub

>>87405616
>>87405639
>>87405678

http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/26/chelsea-cain-mockingbird-feminist-backlash

She was absolutely harassed off twitter and shame on you for trying to deny it. Fucking /pol/ weenies.

>>87406015

No I'm totally on the Cain Train. My point was that there's no way it was some bizarre contingent of mockingbird fans who came out of nowhere.

>>87406015
The "harassment" she received was the mildest shit ever. Half the fucking examples people keep using as proof of "harassment" are snooty comments in her direction.

>>87393824
He's absolutely right though. If something was actually worthwhile and entertained people they would purchase it as a gesture of support. Since nobody bought the comic we can rightfully say that nobody liked it (it was marketed heavily so that wasn't the issue.)

95% of comic purchases are made in support of the product. Everyone has instant and unlimited free access to practically all new comics online and only spends money to support their favorites and their LCS. Nobody bought Mockingbird because it was simply average.

>>87397421
>But NuWally isn't being respected
He's in the Flash title to as Kid Flash. In fact, the whole opening arc of Flash Rebirth was Barry realising he needs a partner and NuWally is the best man for the job.

>>87404537

well the term industry is pretty blanket you could fit it most anywhere big business does something stupid

>>87405208
The funniest part is that she's obviously going to reactivate her Twitter account whenever she next has a book to promote anyway, because that's how publishing works now.

>>87393824
I guess they're gonna just ignore that tumblr hates the book as much as /co/ after that irredeemably stupid rape retcon.

>>87395758
>Give me actual sale numbers.
Only in extremely rare cases

>>87402416

Wally and Kid Wally is a cool way to say it

>Spencer

I almost feel bad for supporting Superior Foes because of this

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>>87393824
i mean one of the two marvel books im reading is a hateread

so yeah that seems reasonable

>>87410117
I sure hope you're pirating that hateread.

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>>87393824
>implying SJW tumblrinas buy comics
>implying Marvel hasn't shot themselves in the foot big-time pissing off the people that actually buy their shit angling after a market that only pretends to like comics

Gee weird how DC's sales went up a million percent after they started pandering to core capeshit fans

>>87408223
She apparently has a record of not being that great with internet communications.

https://tezmilleroz.wordpress.com/2014/09/05/tez-talks-the-case-of-chelsea-cain-and-why-public-perception-matters/

>>87409774
No need. Anyway. My source is Icv2, saying that for 2015 prints sales made at least ten times more money than digital sales.
So if Marvel print sales are bad then digital sales are even worse.

>>87408338
Tumblr has herd mentality and is easy to manipulate

I'm sure Tumblr loves the book now because "oh no, evil misogynerds cyberbullied a feminist womyn!"

Same thing happened with Zoe Quinn back in 2014

>>87406015
>She was absolutely harassed off twitter
PROVE IT.

All the "examples" I saw in those articles were mildly mean tweets like
>Thanks, Cain, for ruining my fave character with your feminist crap.

That's not "harassment" and you know it. Hell, even Cain herself said there was no personal attacks or death threats or anything, just a lot of mean comments about the book.

>>87413313
This.

In fact, I think this whole "Twitter harrassment" scandal was engineered specifically to win back Tumblr. Think about it, Tumblr is this book's main audience. But the writer was clumsy enough about the topic of rape, and that's a big Tumblr no-no. So they decided to spark up a "cyberbullying" scandal to make Tumblr forget about the rape thing.

>>87393824
>I thought you were always joking about this whole "Marvel is intent on making you rage purchase things" line of thought.

We didn't make it up. Marvel's editors/execs LITERALLY said EXACTLY that.

>>87406015

>""""Harassment""""

There's that word again

I don't see why tumblrites were pissed at the retcon. They LOVE stronk womyn who kill men no matter the reason.

>>87397238
How many of these people only care about Cap because their pussies got juiced up at the sight of Chris Evans wearing the flag and bought one or two Captain America comics?

>>87397210
>Shithead makes stupid remark
>gets called out for it
>"hurrr I may be wrong but you're a nerd for caring"

>>87413729
Makes sense SJWs don't know shit about comic, even if it's their job to make them.

>>87411678

>implying SJW tumblrinas buy comics
>implying Marvel hasn't shot themselves in the foot big-time pissing off the people that actually buy their shit angling after a market that only pretends to like comics

That's a little disingenuous of you. There are enough Tumblrs or whatever to support titles in the long-term. Look at Transformers MTMTE, that's been running almost five years now. It regularly sells about 10k physical, which doesn't sound much, but it's stable. It has helluva strong digital sales because a lot of it's fans hate going to brick and mortar stores and want to read it ASAP. It has extremely steady and healthy TPB sales to boot, with volumes constantly in-demand and in-print, and a constant stream of new readers picking up the back catalogue. And it's not like MTMTE is the only comic surviving and thriving that way. Lumberjanes and Saga do it too, to lesser degrees.

They're never gonna pull in Batman sales figures, for sure. But there is a market there, and enough of one to sustain titles. The issue though, as I see it, is that MTMTE and it's ilk are relatively organic in tone and content and what-have-you. The publishers have capitalised on these titles being found by the SJW/Tumblr/LGBQTBBQETC crowd, for sure. They'd be dumb not to. But all these titles are creator-driven, rather than the publishers setting out to cashgrab a lucrative new market. And that's why these titles do well, and the attempts by Marvel don't. Much like we do ourselves, the desired audience smells the bullshit, sees the poor quality and insincerity, and subsequently they don't give a shit or buy the titles. I agree that Marvel should stop pandering to that audience. The issue isn't that the audience isn't there, just that Marvel are are simultanously shit at catering to them while also offending them with stuff like the black girl Iron Man cover or whatever. They should cut their losses and leave the Tumblrs to the indie publishers.

>>87414537
> But there is a market there, and enough of one to sustain titles
Small potatoes.
It might be enough for these nobodies, it won't be enough for Marvel.
Marvel is supposed to be one of the Big Two. 10k equals shit for them.
What was the exact number again that they used to say if it drops lower, series should be cancelled? 25k? I'm not sure.

>>87396354
He looks like Tom Preston if he were professionally successful.

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this is why ill never support marvel. It's pathetic

im DC for life

>>87414537
>Marvel are are simultanously shit at catering to them while also offending them with stuff like the black girl Iron Man cover
I thought Marvel's plan was to have the cover spark up a scandal and then virtue signal to Tumblr by cancelling the cover, thus earning Marvel some brownie points?

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>>87414537
>Much like we do ourselves, the desired audience smells the bullshit, sees the poor quality and insincerity, and subsequently they don't give a shit or buy the titles. I agree that Marvel should stop pandering to that audience. The issue isn't that the audience isn't there, just that Marvel are are simultanously shit at catering to them while also offending them with stuff like the black girl Iron Man cover or whatever.
2010s Marvel is like 1960s DC. They've heard that the youngsters have some sort of subculture, but don't exactly know how to pander to it. So what comes out looks extremely obnoxious to both the Tumblrs and the non-Tumblrs.

>>87414643

Physical singles sales are actually the smallest sales portion of titles like MTMTE. Most of the readers are buying the digital singles on Comixology and then the physical TPBs when they hit the shelves/Amazon. And MTMTE is a licensed comic. If it wasn't profitable IDW would have shit-canned it for a new approach and Hasbro wouldn't keep renewing their old licenses while giving them new ones.

>>87414763

I call bullshit on that theory. They're just trying to have their cake and eat it.

>>87414854
>I call bullshit on that theory. They're just trying to have their cake and eat it.
I'm not sold... What's the "cake" in this situation? How did Marvel profit from having a Campbell variant, considering Campbell hasn't been relevant since the early 2000s?

>>87414801
>2010s Marvel is like 1960s DC
They sold millions of comics every month?

>>87414883

It's a variant cover done by an old-school big-name cheesecake artist. He's not put out an actual comic since that fucking abortion Wildsiders but he's still got big name-brand/art-style recognition and a fairly large following to boot. His exclusive covers usually sell out.

>>87414935
Mahvel completely devastated DC back in the 60s. The sales numbers were just overall higher back in the day. Still, Mahvel went from being essentially a smalltime publisher of Archie clone comics to a equal competitor who pretty much gobbled up a huge chunk of DC's market.

>>87414854
Digital sales overall make about ten times less money than print sales.
So no matter how many more copies they could sell, they're still nowhere near enough.

>>87414964
Still not sold. Why put a cheesecake artist on a Tumblr-pandering comic? Nah, it was intentional, I tells ya.

It was intentional with Manara, and it was intentional with Campbell.

>>87414801
I want a hippy titans ongoing now

I rage purchased all three Superior Spider-Man OHCs

>>87415002
You got #WOKE

>>87414537

>There are enough Tumblrs or whatever to support titles in the long-term.

The term "Tumblr" usually means "SJWs", and SJWs cant support anything financially.

If its webcomics and fanbases you're talking about, yeah, theres fanbases that exist in Tumblr and there are artists that exist in there. But generally the term "Tumblr" means the outrage-crowd who spend 10-12 hours on Tumblr and Twitter getting offended about something.

>>87414973
>Mahvel completely devastated DC back in the 60s
Wrong. DC still outsold them.

>>87415076
Because DC started the decade as the allmighty superhero comic monopoly, and Mahvel started as a small-time shitshow. Of course DC still outsold them, but they kept losing and losing their market share dramatically.

>>87415122
DC really thought those Gorilla Covers were gonna save them. Marvel was already leagues beyond DC during that era and DC never really caught back up until the Bronze Era where they started pumping out quintissential stories over stories, they never got the direct market but they have a pretty strong over the trade market. To this day, Marvel still has no equivalent to the Killing Joke, Watchmen, Batman: Year One, The Dark Knight Returns. Books that'll sell even when the direct market dies

>>87414993

On a profit per issue basis, digital makes more profit for the publishers. Retailer and distributor both take a substantial cut of the cover price. Comixology and Apple/Google take about the same, but the latter two only get a cut if the comics are bought through their apps rather than directly from the site. On top of that, there's the printing and shipping costs taking about a quarter of the cover price of a physical single. And while most print comics outsell their digital counterparts about three times over the week they launch, there are exceptions where digital outsells print, again MTMTE is an example of this. Ms Marvel was another, at the peak of it's popularity. Furthermore, the advantage of digital comics is that they're always available for purchase. They're never out of stock or out of print, they don't need shipping anywhere, and those back-issues will be available for anyone who wants them years down the line. Again, this makes for a big chunk of MTMTE's profitability. Single issue print sales are only a portion of the pie with comics, and smaller companies are smart to capitalise on the other revenue streams as well.

>>87415301
>Killing Joke, Watchmen, Batman: Year One, The Dark Knight Returns
That was the Dark Age, not the Bronze Age. The Bronze Age was when DC was at its worst, with the infamous DC Implosion leading to the cancelling of countless titles. The Dark Age saw a resurgence of DC thanks to the aforementioned seminal stories by new talented authors, as well as Vertigo.

>>87414996

You're either being wilfully obtuse or you're an idiot. How does what you're suggesting make them any money compared to a cheesecake variant cover by an artist who regularly and reliably sells out?

>>87415513
Because if they didn't want a scandal, they wouldn't put him on a Tumblr-pandering comic

>>87415540

That doesn't answer my question.

>>87396511
So...not Green Lantern then, because SJWs legit don't care about arabs and hispanics?

>>87396484
>The deeper you go into SJW rabbit hole, the more you are eager to believe that economy is a sham perpetrated to oppress.
this predates SJW pandering, though. Marvel has always been like this.

>>87415460
>The Bronze Age was when DC was at its worst, with the infamous DC Implosion leading to the cancelling of countless titles
And I love them so much for having survived that.

>>87415571
I think he mentioned GL too.