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What does /co/ think of Manara and Cho?

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Could they be any more based?
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>>87384658
Nop.

That's the cenyth.
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>>87384658
>dat spider-vulv
i have no idea who these guys are but i'm proud of them
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>>87384658
>throwing and letting other milk a hissyfit is fighting censorship
Chofags please leave
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GRAB THEM BY THE PUSSY
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It has been pointed out in a previous thread that you can see Spiderwoman's anus in that pic. I can't like that pic anymore.

Also I think they're being incredibly petty, even if they have a point.
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>>87384658
Ironically, Spiderwoman is now the babby mama of a space dyke and is fated to become a five foot nothing flat as a board lipstick mitten for the larger more muscular bitch dandvers captain marvel.

I just wish that Marvel had more cheese cake heroines. I'm sick of cutesy or bitches or average loser broads with nothing hot to them.
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>>87384658
>the butthole
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>>87385066
>being petty

To me it just seems like they don't give a shit and is trying to see how far they can get away with.

There are tons of porns and cheesecakes of comic book characters done by countless artists, so why should only Cho get flak for it?
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>>87384892

what are you doing here?
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>>87385131
Cho isn't "getting flak" for drawing cheesecake, he's drawing attention for being a try-hard instigator.
Manara gets attention for drawing every female character as the exact same Euro-prostitute, and Marvel took flak for letting him draw their female characters as Euro-whores.

Have you ever seen his terrible X-Men story?
He's worse than Dillon when Dillon was in "Troll U with Frankface" mode.
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>>87385131
Cho isgetting Flak for being a fucking baby.
No one cares that he draws cheesecake but every critism of his shitty sameface drawing is met with his same whiny 'stop censoring me' shitk. Like damn nigga grow the fuck up.
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>>87385213
But artists aren't writers, aren't they?

If Manara made that terrible xmen story, he should be criticized as a bad writer, not an artist. The fact that they made cheesecake art shouldn't be something cry over, and if Cho is indeed being an attention whore and a try hard instigator, people should fucking ignore him on that part.

And the thing is that they're both fantastic artists. The watercolor piece, whether sexual and immature or not, is fucking great from an artistic viewpoint. The fact that they're making sexual contents shouldn't bother anyone and shouldn't create such big dramas, because they're making those sexual arts because they're willing to, and to say something about it is to violate their artistic freedom, no matter how light the topic is.
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>>87385066
>not liking buttholes
For shame, anon. A real man appreciates every part of a woman.
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>>87385386
I'm not criticizing the (bad) story of that comic, I'm being critical of Manara's artwork for it, which made every single X-female completely unrecognizeable, because he draws every woman EXACTLY the same, with the same idiotic expression on her face.
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I wish I could have people throw money at me just to do what I love and piss off idiots in the bargain. Cho is living the god damn dream.
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>>87385464
Can I see how he drew those characters?
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>>87385213
Cho has always been a "try hard" in that respect.
He's being doing jokey commissions for decades. It was because he did "THAT" pose with Spider-Gwen that got him flak, despite the fact that he'd done in multiple times previously with Spider-Woman and Wonder Woman.

They made that pose and that cover their WOMEN IN COMICS hill to die on for some strange reason.
Now they've got a vendetta against him for everything he does no matter what it is.

Someone even made a list of all the male artists who commented "positively" on the facebook post and told everyone to boycott them. Conveniently ignoring all the women in the industry who did the same, but that's another barrel of horseshit.

You know what I do when I don't like something? Not stalk it's facebook, twitter, and click every article about it and signal boost it to the moon.
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>>87385213
Consider suicide with this shit meme
Instead of posting a reaction image post some fucking evidence of your claim
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>>87385066
pettiness is the natural reaction to what's happened to them, really. It's like drawing unflattering pictures of your jerkass teacher who's always trying to keep you down
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>>87385195
iunno, i havent read any comics since the 90s and I haven't liked what I've heard about what's happened in them, but any strike against censorship is good in my book
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>>87385066
>Also I think they're being incredibly petty, even if they have a point

When in Rome, anon
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>>87385498
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>>87385464
Even if had sameface problem, his anatomy, perspective, and coloring game is damn solid from what I can see from the watercolor.

And I get this feeling that you've got some bias over him.
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I don't know why this thread pisses me off.

I don't even like SJWs nor do I agree with them, i'm just so tired of seeing these threads 24/7. Cause when I see shit SJWs get upset over, I get pissed off, and then I get pissed off at people for getting me pissed off when I wanted to have fun.

What a crazy life I live.
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>>87385540
see
>>87385587
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>>87385587
Woof
Still, it doesn't matter if I like or dislike the thing being attacked, if I don't support the creators, next it'll be shit I DO like. and by next, I mean 'already' and nobody supported me.
If the comics are bad, don't buy em
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>>87385620
Yeah I'm not looking forward to the next 4 to 8 years, but it's REALLY hard to get people to just shut up when they can hear the opposition yammering in their ear night and day.
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I want more porn in comics and also more cheesecake. I prefer Serpieri than Manara.
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Even Lolfield could make them look more on-model.
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>>87384658
One of them is a sexiest pig. The other is a comic artist
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>>87385620
1) dont post in the thread
2) hide the thread and post somewhere else

People who whine post in threads that they hate are far more annoying than anything in this thread.
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>>87384658

I don't think this is going to help their cause any.

Sort of seems like their throwing rocks at the hornets nest now.
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>>87384658
More like Can They Be Looking For A New Line Of Work Harder?
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>>87385630
The freedom to draw women sluttily is hardly under attack;
Manara's making iconic comic book characters look like his neighborhood hooker was panned.

Cho took this as a calling to white-knight Manara and to defend drawing sexy women, when that was never the issue.

Had Manara did a cover like that for Supergirl, fantastic amounts of shit would have been flipped.
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>>87385705
Oh no, I usually do that. I just thought i'd post that this time. Gets annoying have to hide more than 3 threads that are on the front page though. Today has been pretty tame. All the kids out Trick or Treating it's quite relaxing.
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>>87385751
>The freedom to draw women sluttily is hardly under attack
>when that was never the issue

It's not good to lie, anon.
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>>87384658
So when the fuck is my daughter and wife going to be able to buy comics and not have a cent go towards this perv wanting to draw porn in a medium he no longer belongs or makes sense in?
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>>87385751
>The freedom to draw women sluttily is hardly under attack;

Tell that to J. Scott Campbel.

Honestly thought what really bugs me is how marvel is throwing the artists under the bus for drawing what they told them to draw
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>>87385719
>their cause
I wish people would stop seeing things in terms of sides
Like, they aren't anti-feminism or pro-sexy ladies in comics
They just don't see the point in the criticism towards things that are based on nothing but inferred aggravation that isn't even there
Like, maybe it's not the best thing that all superheroes have to be sexy and attractive, but that's not going to be a thing that ever stops, and it's not based on gender or prejudice or oppression
we draw hot people because we would rather self insert as hot people than ugly people
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>>87385806
>So when the fuck is my wife's daughter and wife
Fixed your li'l slip there lad.
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>>87384658
I think we've allowed this SJW bullshit for way too long and it's time to put them in their place unless we really want to have two Westboro Baptist Churches in this god forsaken world.
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>>87385705
>People who whine post in threads that they hate are far more annoying than anything in this thread.

The people that whine and hate about the people that whine and hate threads that they post in, are even more annoying.

It's a cycle of annoyance.
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>>87385858
Cho and that geriatric fuck pervert are done, Marvel is no longer a boys-club and we will have a say in how comics are written, and drawn going forward, or there will be hell to pay.
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>>87385806
>not have a cent go towards this perv
Just don't buy something with his name on it, what are you stupid or something?
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>>87385886
>>87385858
Ladies and gentlemen, behold!

The polar opposite sides of everything wrong with modern society!
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>labia minora shows through the suit

Okay I'm not a feminist or SJW but that's just god damn ridiculous, from both a logical and artistic standpoint
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>>87385806

They don't actually get money from issues sold. They get hired to draw a piece and get paid whether marvel publishes it or not
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>>87385351
>No one cares that he draws cheesecake
Tumblr was literally exploding into impotent tears because people were posting convention sketches so he started trolling them because everyone who's given the other cheek to SJWs has either lost their jobs or their creative freedom.
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>>87385901
It's not enough not to buy, they should not be on the payroll if Cain isn't.
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>>87385942
This is what happens when you hire a porn artist to do comic character art.

It's simply in poor taste.
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>>87385942
Pretty sure it's body paint my man
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>>87385988
Pretty sure it's a shit drawing.
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>>87384658
I think he's trying to desensitize everyone with that pose so SJW find it too mandane to bitch about. hope it works, maybe then we will find a effective way to prevent people about bitching on small things.
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>>87385804
No laws have been passed to hamper said ability
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>>87386026
>Manara invented the ass-shot in comic books
Are you in an assisted living center?
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>>87385988
I mean most superhero artists draw costumes like they're painted on. They just don't show the nipples or genitals
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>>87385750
These people get paid to sign tits and asses in conventions. Deleting Marvel from your phonebook sounds more like a boon than an ill nowadays.
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Oh look it's this thread again

And now with even more forced sarcastic replies
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>>87385842
It's almost like they do it on purpose for the sake of clickbait and tumblr good boy points.
I'm glad Mad! told them to fuck off.
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>>87385750
You think Europeans give two shits about this? Milo is a living legend, he'll be fine until he dies and then he'll get some award named after him
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>>87385886
>Marvel is no longer a boys-club
And selling less than DC for the first time since 1968.
Good job.
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>>87386106
A lion's share of their fanbase is made up of women as well.
Cosplayers especially seem to be big fans.

I guess they need to be "saved", though.
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>>87385942
>suit
You're not getting the joke.
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>>87386184

Living
the
dream.
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>>87386030
And yet you cannot draw pretty women for Marvel unless you're being sacrificed under the giant blue "t" at the altar of regressive conservativism.
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>>87385719
You don't really get it. It's not a cause.

Cho has been drawing round sexy women for decades. Manara, if I recall, has been doing it for even longer. People have literally gone to jail for simply possessing his work.

And I can't think of any force other than death that will stop them from drawing sexy women.
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>>87386026
>people like trigglypuff not caring about stuff like this

SJWs are self-absorbed weirdos who would rather teach classes about how their 350 pound ass is healthy and beautiful at every size than attempt to realize that something might actually be wrong with them. Or maybe they realize something is wrong with them but are too stupid and lazy to view normal people being normal as anything but an attack on them for being disgustingly abnormal.

Either way purple haired pansexual demiromantics aren't the kind of people you can expect to ever just stop caring about something they find offense
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>>87384658
Hilarious. Whats even more hilarious is all the people getting angry about him drawing a comic character nude when there are thousands of photos online of these characters nude. Why does it make you so butthurt?
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>>87386293
>Manara, if I recall, has been doing it for even longer.
Yeah He's 71 and has been doing erotic comics since the 70's
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>>87386253
God forbid a private company be allowed to set standards for the artwork they are paying for.

We need a crying Statue of Liberty on this one, stat!
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>>87385995
Quantify how.
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>>87386296
Na you'll be stopped. In fact we're already half way there.
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>>87386030
You said "under attack," which means in your opinion no one is lobbying for censorship. That is objectively and verifiably false.
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>>87385698
>One of them is a sexiest pig.
>sexiest

Cho, you sexy pig
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>>87386339
Quantify the number of times you've put Trump's cock in your mouth first?
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>>87386296
Once the superhero movies die off and something new becomes trendy most of them will join the next bandwagon
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>>87384658
Manara is a master artist and Cho is a hack. Unbelievable that Cho gets rewarded for biting Manara's work and stealing his heat.
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>>87384658
>based

I want the normies to leave
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>>87384658

Well, she is known to have a ridiculously tight outfit, canonically. See for instance the cameltoe in this actual panel from Avengers Initiative.
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>>87386487
>"Can I get away with this?"
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This kills the sjw
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>>87384658
Outrage!
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>>87385213
He's been doing it for years, why is it now being a "try-hard instigator" you dumb cunt?
>>87384658
The ass was phat! I hope to one day draw asses as well as Cho.
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>>87386551
Is it bad that what bothers me the most is that Spider-Woman doesn't wear high heels, and that this is probably recycled porn art?

Manara just doesn't have any class. He's a highly respected smut artist, why is he getting involved in teen audience comics in the first place?
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>>87386576
Really, Marvel deserves all the heat, not Manara.
If Marvel hired dTiberius to do Ms Marvel covers, should he take the flak for it?

Cho's is just riding on Manara's controversy, and egging it along well past it's 15 minutes of fame for the attention.

He ought to go draw some comics.
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>>87386617
He made that specifically for Cho.
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>>87386617
Hey, if I could piss off a bunch of very loud prudes with two pictures, I'd do it too
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>>87386137
>I'm glad Mad! told them to fuck off.
Explain? I can't find anything on that
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>>87386239
>no hover hand
alpha as fuck
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>>87386617
>>87386135
>>87385751
>>87385386
>>87385213
Is this all the same person?
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>>87386747
You'd have to be a supreme faggot to hoverhand someone who asked you to sign her tits
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>>87386697
I'm well aware; I was referring to the original cover that started the controversy.
>>87386705
Yes, but it's still trolling and not some noble endeavor. Before during and after Manara's cover, the Big 2 were cranking out volumes of comics with "tit and ass shots" of female characters.

Manara took flak because A. He's a famous smut-artist and B. His cover pushed the smut-factor just a tad too far, and feminists noticed.

And then reactionaries got into it with the feminists, and fanned the controversy, which normally would have had a half-life of about 6 hours.
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>>87386760
exactly
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>>87386755
Everyone on 4chan is the same person except you.
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>>87386755
>posters 45
>replies 92
bet your ass it is
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>>87386755
Also, this triggered fag over here >>87386805
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>Milo Manara, artist behind most controversial booty picture ever drawn in cape shit
>traces a porn, paints it red "It's Spiderwoman"
>takes it to Frank Cho during Frank Cho's presentation
>"here's a pussy butthole picture in honor of your position against censorship"
>room full of people starts clapping

This is just such an incredible story

I still can't even

What
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>>87386850
You were expecting 92 individual posters?
In a thread you yourself have multiple replies in?
This ain't /b/
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>>87386382
Oh, it's bait. Okay.
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this is what it looks like when an artist becomes stagnant

how unfortunate
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>>87386922
the problem with tracing is that its a crutch for mediocre and bad artists to use that stops them from developing a signature that is their own. and one that isn't based on how they trace or how shit their art is

stop memeing when you really don't know shit
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>>87385886
You can suck my dick, bitch.
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>>87387001
Manara's days as a creative artist are long behind him.
Now he's fallen into recoloring his old sketches for attention.
Spider Woman has never once been drawn with giant yellow porn heels.
But Manara has piles of that sameface gal in porn heels littering his studio.
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>>87386788
Sounds like a personal problem. They can draw whatever they want to and shouldn't be censored by people who don't even read comics.
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>>87387001
>stop memeing
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>>87386922
it's like that copypasta where a liberal or religious professor gives a speech on evolution or w/e, a soldier proves him wrong, a bald eagle named albert einstein flies in and cries
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>>87387057
whats wrong doing stuff for attention for an artist?
if they think its funny why the hell shouldn't they do it?
either way you're not getting the message, its anti censorship, if it gets a rise out of you, good
it shows what a baby you are
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>>87387060
>shouldn't be censored by people
Who's censoring Manara?
I haven't seen anyone taking his high-quality smut off of shelves.
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>>87386336
It's ok, Squirrel Girl and Hellcat have the art Marvel desserves.
Meanwhile Manara keeps living the dream off his legacy, Cho keeps getting paid thousands for outrage Gwen blank covers and Harley Queen variants, Campbell keeps selling out ever sketchbook he produces and Pichelli gets to draw all the lovingly rendered shota she wants.
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>>87387138
didn't marvel chancel his variant?
either way de facto censorship is still censorship
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>>87387143
OMG, sure sounds like they are getting oppressed!
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>>87386734
Madureira was gonna be doing interiors for Inhumans and variants for Elektra around the same time the Spider-Woman fiasco happened but quit to focus on his Battle Chasers videogame.
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>>87385945
They do, but it's some figure like 70k or more books shipped
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>>87385886
I know you are just joking but there legitimately is a shitload of people and artists that honestly believe that and many of them are in Marvel.
Let that ship sink. It's for the best, as is anything where people who want to restrict content and add a sense of moral responsibility, it's an environment to kill ideas and creativity.
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>>87387228
Battle Chasers game is currently in pre-alpha.

He also did a Justice League variant.
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I've got a boner
http://www.themarysue.com/milo-manara-frank-cho-stop-it/
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>>87386922
>I still can't even
Just because we're blue today, doesn't mean you're in tumblr. Fuck off with your damn normie newspeak that's not even dank enough to qualify for meme status.
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>>87387254
>as is anything where people who want to restrict content and add a sense of moral responsibility, it's an environment to kill ideas and creativity.
Yeah, I always say that shows like Walking Dead and Arrow are crippled because they don't do Full Frontal.
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Everyone who is upset about this is validating them with their butthurt.

If we could turn SJW whining into energy we'd be post-scarcity by now.
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>>87387138
The pulled his cover and people are very much trying to censor sexualized art of fictional characters. Get the fuck over it you prudes.
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>>87387285
Is your sole contribution to the thread going to be raving at this sort of shit?
Are you drunk or just a fucking moron?
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How do you draw in all the tumblrinas and beta fags of /co/?
Easy, you post an attractive female character.
They can't stand that shit, they in their retarded minds somehow equate that with harm to women. LMAO.
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>>87387316
>and people are very much trying to censor sexualized art of fictional characters
If they are copyrighted fictional characters, then they absolutely have the right to control how they are presented.
That's how owning something works.
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>>87387188
They're not, as soon as they left Marvel's sinking ship.
They're trolling you tho, you'd actually be able to tell if you were a 4chan regular and not a tumblrite alien.
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>>87387350
You were doing so well.
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>>87387275
Justice League is DC and games aren't developed in a month.
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>>87385942
>and artistic standpoint

It's by Milo Manara, you dimwit. You do not expect photorealism from the man whose style produces hypersexualized goddesses.
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>it's been more than two years since this "controversy" started
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I just checked out the thread on Reddit[/spoiler ]regarding this. That place is so fucking beta it's unreal.
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>>87387356
Stop taking bait nigger.
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>>87387339
>they absolutely have the right to control how they are presented
No one is arguing otherwise, but let's not pretend that that's how it played out, they were okay with initially until all the whiny cunts went full triggered and made them second guess their decision.
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>>87387436
You can't stop me!
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>>87387410
Who's worse, the people who keep flinging shit and laughing or the people who are so easily baited into incoherent rage?

I'm siding with the people having fun, honestly. I wish to shitpost so hard in real life too
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>>87384658
>its a "intellectual cowards claim criticism infringes on their right to free speech" episode
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>>87387455
Me too. I mean, I've been having a blast with Cho doing all those variants, even if his dialogue is dad-tier.
Anything that gets sensible people mad on the internet so I can laugh is cool.
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>>87387441
>and made them second guess their decision.

So? It's still their decision to make. For whatever the reason.
Sometimes a second guess is healthy.
Imagine a world where triggered cunts stopped this. At the end of the day, Manara is still wealthy, Marvel is still pushing cheesecake, and the world spins on.
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>>87387498
>There are still attempt to squeeze a sequel out of this failure
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>>87386747
really?
i put my hand on every chick i take pics with at cons. is this some joke or something? and im not anything more than a 6/10 at my best.
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>>87387498
>Imagine a world where triggered cunts stopped this.
It would have saved Sony $200M.
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>>87385973
>It's simply in poor taste.

It's a piece of art done specifically to give as a gift to a professional colleague who, by the way, is well known for his appreciation of the female derrière. How is it poor taste? It's not being printed as a comic book cover nor is it being given to a hijab wearing feminist who thinks sexuality is a sin. Stop being such a puritanical prude.
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>Black Cat

based Cho
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>>87387514
>Sony
>not making stupid decisions
Nigger, think for a second before you post something so stupid.
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>>87387498
Man, I wish this movie was cool. I really like this pic, is full of 'tude.
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>>87387532
Sony Japan had to fly over to America to fire a whole bunch of people after that catastrophe

Naturally they fired a bunch of middle managers and not the actual problem
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>>87387550
Sony are a walking fuck up. Disney/Marvel Studios handed them a lifeline with the Spidey deal, and then they went HEY LETS GET PASCAL TO PRODUCE IT. Clusterfuck in the making
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>>87387517
>How is it poor taste?
It's porn of a character that isn't owned by Cho, for the sake of self-congratulation for pot-stirring controversy.

And it's clearly not even original artwork of Spider-Woman, lacking her arm webbing and having ridiculous porno shoes. It's recolored old smut just to take a stab at Marvel.

It's in poor taste.
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>>87387550

Man I would have just fired them over text message. Firing a sony executive isn't worth a plane ticket.
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>>87387535
My favorite part of the movie was triggering Leslie Jones with gorillas

>"How dare these people press this big and obvious button to get a rise out of me, they're terrible people and I'm going to tweet over and over again about how they're terrible people each time they press my button"

More people should have been bullied as children.
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>>87387550
And people think Spider-Man isn't going to be a shit show.
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>>87387464
>disingenuous retard pretends that criticism is the same as using outrage on social media to get artwork pulled from the final product and then try to blackball artists
But then again to people who think like you, finding ways to silence someone is no different than merely expressing grievances, people like that are just plain less intelligent, incapable of distinguishing two very different outlooks and approaches to disagreement, then there are others that are purposefully being dense, because they just don't want to straight out admit that they don't like the concept of freedom of expression and would like instead "responsible" expression only.
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>>87387578
You don't understand corporations

My brother tells me about Google flying people out to Hawaii for nothing that couldn't be done in their California offices

>>87387595
Who's the Sony exec who has a boner for diversity? The one who was looking for an IP to turn into a GRRRRL Power movie and did it to Ghostbusters of all fucking things?
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>>87387590
I'm actually sad about that because she was the least awful part of the movie as far as I know
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>>87387573

Poor taste would have been giving him that gift after hearing someone died during a riot about Spider-Womans asshole. What he did was a gift to another artist to show support.

Was it a jab at the people who unfairly protested Cho's art? Yes

Is that in poor taste? Not at all.
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>>87387612
Amy Pascal. The one they fired over the hacks, that then got brought back on cause they subcontracted to her production company.
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>>87387618
Personally, I hope they keep posting images online of their pornographic Disney artwork until the lawyers pay them both a visit.
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>>87384658
Manara is great. Cho is your average cape artist.
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>>87387613
That's the thing

Like every black person in America, she's been taught to have a big glowing weakspot on her that twitter trolls can tag with a minimum of effort. I'm not even convinced all those trolls were actual racists, just not anti-racist enough to not send her racist tweets because, again, it's a big glowing weakspot

It's like trying to get a rise out of Emma Watson by shitposting about feminism. You know she's a big proponent of it, so you attack it
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>>87387612

>You don't understand corporations

And you don't understand the use of trivializing legal procedures to show a lack of enthusiasm or care for said procedure or peoples involved.

I've fired enough people to know it has to be done face to face. I've been hit by enough people to know that can't be avoided. I was making a joke and I think you either knew that or really need to talk to people outside of the internet.
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>>87387612
Well they've got Tom Rothman, the genius behind such classics as Daredevil, X-Men The Last Stand and X-Men Origins: Wolverine and the first two Fantastic Four movies.
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>>87387498
>It's still their decision to make
Once again, no one is arguing against that and I used the term second guess colloquially.
What I should have said is that they were made afraid of the consequences of going through with their decision.
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>>87387628
That's it

I kept thinking Amy Shumer because I heard about her and Seth Rogan's Bug Light commercials getting axed

Turns out people don't want their beer commercials to bitch about the wage gap.
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>>87387653

I'd cancel a commercial if I knew it was being as a platform to spread lies to perpetuate sexism
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>>87387651
>They were made afraid of the consequences of going through with their decision.
What? Feminists were going to stop buying 10s of thousands of comics?
Girls were going to stop going to see the latest Princess Flick?
Neither of these things were possible consequences.

Manara produced a skeevy bit of cover art, people said "wow, that is pretty skeevy", and they said "Yeah, let's not run with that."
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I don't understand /co/ sometimes. They openly dislike SJWs yet any attempts to make fun of them openly or even make an allegory towards their crap is met with derisive comments. What, are they somehow exempt from open mockery that's not within 4chan?
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>>87385698
neither of those is worth attacking someone for
things not worth defending someone for.. quickly become worth it when they get attacked.
>>87385751
panned is fine. that's what is supposed to happen. this shit got attacked.
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>>87386296
hey. the purple haired thing is good. we need to be supporting that.
>>87386617
I'm with you there at least. fuck heels. but.. hey, I recycle art all the time. as long as it's not traced in the first place.
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>>87387712
>this shit got attacked.
By attacked, do you mean that people said mean shit about in on the internet?

Because I really don't remember property destruction or death threats.
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>>87387705
This shithole is known as /co/mblr for a reason
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>>87387705
>What are /co/ntrarians?
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>>87387744

I think he means shit like what drove Joss Whedon out of Twitter. Saying "your work sucks" is not an attack, true. Saying "you are a sexist pig who should be arrested for drawing this" is an attack.
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>>87387705
Do you WANT internet safespaces with hivemind?
At that point, what is even the point of having a discussion board?
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>>87387767
So you ARE an advocate for safespace.
On 4chan, of all fucking places.
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>>87387653
>wage gap
How the fuck is that made up bullshit still being spread?
>>87387702
You are being dishonest at how you summarized the situation and you are being obtuse if you are pretending to not know how afraid companies are of bad PR and how easy it is to make them buckle especially if the claims of sexism and misogyny are thrown at them. That is exactly why they even use and continue to do these social media campaigns in the first place, they work and are effective.
But you wont even discuss the events and motivations in good faith, you fucking slimy snake.
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>>87387771

No, but I'm wondering why /co/ rarely gets angry over anyone shitting on /pol/ (for good reason mind you), but SJWs somehow get special treatment on how they should be shat on.
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>>87387787
>How the fuck is that made up bullshit still being spread?
Because there's an industry in it?

I hear scattered reports of businesses paying women MORE as an "apology" for the wagegap too.
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>>87387781

So you're pretty much saying SJWs have a right to libel others by insinuating/accusing their targets are pedophiles without proof just because they hate a picture? You DO know that in this climate, the media automatically takes their side and any attempts to defend yourself will be met with scorn?
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>>87387744
Some dude, as in a professional artist actually went navy seals copypasta and talked about what he was going to do to Cho the next time he ran into him at a convention.

Although in full fairnesss, he did walk it back and said that he was only meant that he would make efforts to make sure Cho never worked at marvel again.

If I recall, it's the same dude who Cho later sent a gift basket with preparation H, and a "how to draw" book.
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>>87387825
Robbi?

The same autismo who who called Spider-gwen his daughter, right?
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>>87387787
>how easy it is to make them buckle especially if the claims of sexism and misogyny are thrown at them.
Yeah, I've noticed how Big 2 Comics are nothing but burkha wearing conservative women, and totally not a bunch of tit-and-ass shots of girls in skintights.
Even the heroines in the MCU films are showin off cleavage or in tight-ass outfits.

You sound like the hyperbolic War Against Christmas people.
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>>87387836
That's cause Disney know ass and titties still make money
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>>87387787
Bat PR only works if you have shame. If you don't dignify their complaints, then you can keep trucking as you always were.

...As this election cycle shows.
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>>87387787
>How the fuck is that made up bullshit still being spread?

The left makes up a bunch of bogus statistics to perpetuate sexism and racism for money. And blacks and women fall for it hook, line and sinker.
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>>87387825
>If I recall, it's the same dude who Cho later sent a gift basket with preparation H, and a "how to draw" book.
Sounds like Cho is better at dealing with the Internets than you are.
>>87387819
Did someone publicly accuse Manara of being a pedophile? Or are you still being a hyperbolic little bitch?
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>People actually give a shit about this
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>>87387864

Go to bed Manara/Cho
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>>87387866
This tired old Smut-artist and his artist boyfriend are Cause Celebre around these parts.
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>>87387856
>"You're shit because an invisible cabal of white males demand it and not because you're just shit"
It's an attractive philosophy.

Sadly I'm too white and male to excuse my own failings.

Supposedly the wage gap actually exists, it's the gap between men who are more likely to engage in salary negotiation and the women who aren't.

Progressive companies like Reddit did the understandable thing and banned salary negotiation in the name of feminism rather than corporate greed
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WILL YOU FAGS STOP MAKING THESE FUCKING THREADS

I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT CHEESECAKE ARTISTS FIGHTING LE SJW MENACE

I DON'T JERK OFF TO CARTOONS BECAUSE I'M NOT A CREEPY NECKBEARD WHO DOESN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE

THE FUCKING ''''BASED CHO''' SENDING THE FAGGOT WITH PURPLE HAIR A JOKE BASKET HAPPENED IN APRIL OF 2015 WHEN AGE OF FUCKING ULTRON WAS COMING OUT

ALMOST TWO YEARS AND YOU ALL STILL HARPING ON THIS SHIT, RUNNING THE FUCKING JOKE INTO THE GROUND

GO FUCK YOURSELF AND STOP WASTING EVERYBODY'S TIME WITH YOUR OBSESSIVE COMPULSIONS TO GOSSIP LIKE ELDERLY GRANDMOMS

FUCK

FUCK

FUCK
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>>87387887
No
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>>87387879

I don't fucking get it. I jerk off to drawn porn like every other neckbeard on this website but internet drama about grown fucking men doesn't interest me, especially when we've had the same fucking threads for a year now.
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>>87387887
Wait.
You have valuable time.
On 4chan.
You have time that you value, and it's being spent ALL CAPS posting on a Mandarin Puppet board.
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This wouldn't be a thing if women were hysterical control freaks that get jealous at drawings.

At least they're not covering the extremelly lewd legs of tables anymore.
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>>87387864

No, but I recall Scott Campbell being accused of that.
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>>87387901
Do you often go into threads you don't like?
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>>87387887
Why don't you stop wasting everybody's time with your autistic tantrums?
Were you never taught how to behave in public?
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>>87387905
It was men that wanted table legs covered, dude.
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I think my favorite part about this is that by my standards, Cho is actually very good about women. There's a common complaint that artist have a same body thing where they all look like lightboxed supermodels and porn stars, like a universe full of Lands.

But Cho actually has a wide variety of body types. I think he has the signature she hulk, which is both feminine AND powerful.

When I think of artists who draw powerful women, with gravitas to them, the list is very short.
>>87387833
That's the dude. Here's part of his meltdown.

>>87387864

>Did someone publicly accuse Manara of being a pedophile? Or are you still being a hyperbolic little bitch?

Actually, he has been accused of drawing pedo art before.

>>87387887
Dude. Just hide it. Cho's not going to stop drawing asses. SJWs aren't going to stop getting triggered. Losing your shit like that isn't good for your health.
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>>87387901
Apparently some people imagine this is the slippery slope that ends all Cheesecake/Smut Art forever, or fucking something.
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>>87387885
Same shit with the Oscars. Did anyone ever stop to think that maybe no black people got nominated because none of them did anything notable in the past year? They want to earn nothing based on merit, but purely based on the fact that they're different, yet they hate racism?
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>>87387836
>You sound like the hyperbolic War Against Christmas people.
Nothing I said was hyperbolic but you on the other hand, completely misconstruing what I said, bringing up burkhas, slight cleavage being risque.
You really haven't noticed a change in the content and outfits of female characters at Marvel in the past few years? Really now?
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>>87387927
>Actually, he has been accused of drawing pedo art before.
He's a European smut artist. This could well be accurate.
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>>87387931
Fun fact

Black people have won a percentage of Oscars based on their population since the early 90s (I'm not going to pretend that America was never racist)

They're the only minority group to have won Oscars based on their percentage of the American population. The latinos and asians had more of a right to bitch, but it's the eternally pissed off blacks who were angry.
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>>87387946
If pedos are hated by the left, why does incestuous pedophile Lena Dunham get a pass?
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>>87387967
The left also hates racists and sexists, yet they're by far the more racist and sexist. They also always bring up free speech when it benefits them, yet they want words and costumes and expression banned because it 'might' offend someone. Liberalism is a mental disorder.
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>>87387989
Ah yes, the people pushing for segregation in college campuses aren't voting republican
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>>87387931

The Oscars tend to gravitate towards white people specifically because non-white actors have more trouble getting parts, which in turn makes the pool of A-list black actors who might get an Oscar relatively small. Of course it's bullshit that black people should be nominated/win every year due to their skin color but Hollywood is not magically free of discriminatory mechanics. Just look at how little there is work for women, and what kind of roles women only get.
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>>87387989
I am so sick of this shit.
I just want to be a social liberal and a fiscal conservative. Is that so hard?
Is it so hard to fucking be responsible with your money and not give a huge shit if the guy next door wants to fuck dogs or whatever?
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>>87387945
>You really haven't noticed a change in the content and outfits of female characters at Marvel in the past few years? Really now?
Overall, no. Kamala Khan is underaged, those characters generally have a more conservative outfit even when they aren't Muslims.
Spider-Woman has another ugly variant costume.
Captain Marvel has a new costume every week.
Who am I supposed to be particularly outraged by? Is She Hulk overdressed? She wore business attire back in the Byrne era.
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>>87388004
Black people have no trouble getting parts anymore. Studios are going out of their way to race swap roles and force diversity to get more black people in their movies. They have no room to complain anymore. If any minority group does it's everyone EXCEPT black people.
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>>87384658
i dont give a shit way should i
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>>87388035
This

Where are the latino roles? There are more hispanics in America than blacks (thanks abortion and gang violence)
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>>87388017

We live in an age where people sell their own mother's good name down the river in favour of internet asspatts. Virtue signalling has been made easier thanks to social media.
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Does anyone even doubt that Marvel hired a porn artist on purpose just to generate controversy and get people to buy their books.
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>>87387929

There's clearly a trend, and the offerings from the big two are significantly more sexually conservative than they have been in the past. This isn't all SJW shit, there's other factors involved too, but by far, they're the most vocal in wanting it.

Without making a normative judgement on it it's not surprising at all that people who like that kind of sexual liberty be vocally upset, no?

>>87388017
The american two party system lends itself to two big parties, neither of which will be a good fit. Vote for people, vote for principles, and vote for fundamental freedoms, even for people you don't agree with.
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>>87388057
basically what I'm voting on now is if I want to have a race war, or a war with russia.

I choose russia, as holy fuck I've always wanted to go to war with russia. They're such a good enemy. I miss you russia.
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>>87388054
Nobody seemed to mind that the nip who made a She-hulk doujin drew a She-hulk cover

Not that he ended up drawing a sexy cover, which I think was a waste since I love his work
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>>87387455
Shitposting loudly IRL and getting paid for it is living the dream as far as I'm concerned.
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>>87387927
>SJWs aren't going to stop getting triggered
I haven't seen a single person actually upset over Cho's artwork in years, it's kinda beating a dead horse at this point.
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>>87388021
>Who am I supposed to be particularly outraged by? Is She Hulk overdressed? She wore business attire back in the Byrne era.
Jesus, you are insufferable. I never said any of this was outrage worthy, or that anyone had to wear skimpy outfits but kept playing this game of not acknowledging the point I was making and instead keep pulling shit out of nowhere and making it about something else.
Honestly are you stupid? Is it too hard for you to comprehends what someone is telling you? You must be pulling my leg because you can't be this much of a annoying, dense cunt.
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>>87388035
>They have no room to complain anymore.

Well that's for time to tell. I do agree that people of all skin colors should have more representation and not just black people, but if all they keep getting in the future is just slightly more token supporting cast parts, that's still an issue. Some momentary effort after a controversy to try and fix things doesn't mean the inherent problem is suddenly gone away.
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>>87388067
Going to war with Russia smacks of "We've always been at war with Eurasia" and it just pisses me off
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>>87387498
>Marvel is still pushing cheesecake
Citation needed
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>>87388087
see, I quite enjoy the big brother gestapo scenario.
I am so going to sign up for the ministry of peace and snitch on all my neighbors.
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>>87388057
>There's clearly a trend, and the offerings from the big two are significantly more sexually conservative than they have been in the past.
What, because Silk stopped being naked?
If anything, there's been a move to more classic outfits, Medusa for example looks a lot like her oldest incarnations.
I mean there's no more Jean Grey in pasties or that godawful Invisible Girl slut costume, but that shit was the butt of jokes anyway. Captain Marvel's ass-exposing costume was always a joke.
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>>87388078
You obviously stay away from the leth types and the comic book news sites obviously. Good for you. That garbage will rot your brain.

>>87388101
While you're correct, the "we want the silver age style costumes back" people aren't exactly the ones making any waves.
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>>87387931
>because none of them did anything notable in the past year?
It's kind of a hard idea to wrap your head around when straight outta compton and creed get nominated for multiple awards, but the the black actors that the films centered around in them don't get a single nod in any of the categories.
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>>87387677
You're not a good jew, or a good goy then.
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>>87388137
What is the costume that people are not getting, that's the basis for this "Marvel is covering everyone up"? Psylocke? Is Tigra overdressing or something?
The 90's were never going to come back.

Marvel has never had THAT many female heroines to begin with, you could generally throw them all in one team. And pretty much all of them dress the same way.
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>>87387753
And it's fucking cancer for it.
I'd trade the bronies back to get rid of tumblrites forever.
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>>87385587
Oh geez, I like Manara but god damn he cannot draw more than one woman on a page.
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>>87388274

I feel no shame in saying I would too. Hell I'd settle for taking the bronies back to get rid of the constant company wars bullshit.
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>>87387705
>>87387753
>>87388274
I guarantee you that 99% of the /co/mblr type posters are merely falseflaggers looking to bait and raise a shitstorm out of boredom.

The other 1% are the true tumblrites who use tripcodes for maximum attention.
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>>87387887
Nigga, just close your eyes.
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>>87388196
>The 90's were never going to come back.
You realize that Marvel literally has x-men 92, which I think is an ongoing now? But seriously,

I'm not sure why you're fighting admitting that this trend even exists. And it's not just about art. It's about how sexualization is portrayed.

I mean I could cherry pick some obvious examples of the trend, with Burnside Batgirl, Spider Woman--who's redesign is probably somewhat connected to the Cho meltdown. Hell, I could populate a thread with them.

But in this case you have pundits making strong political statements about this, and who then go on and make comics that match their political statements.
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>>87387929
Last time companies listened to soapbox tyrants rather than their fans we lost horror comics forever.
TWD and Crossed aren't horror comics you fag
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>>87387927
>a character I made up is like one of my children

kys
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>>87388035
Blacks have a hard time understanding that you don't desserve shit just because you exist.

As a mexican who bought himself a mansion back home by mining bituminous sands in canada and fishing crab in alaska, I fucking hate them. They have it all and can't let themselves enjoy it just because whitey is more willing to work than they are.
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>>87388336
what are some good horror comics then mr snob?
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>>87384658
Is Cho still harping on about this?

is /co/ still pretending that what is essentially the same joke over and over is somehow still based what feels like one year on?

I mean don't get me wrong, I agree with Cho and I don't give a shit about cheesecake, but it's literally the same thing over and over.

At what point does it stop being funny and start getting tragic /co/?
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>>87388449
Dude. He was making the same joke and drawing asses FIFTEEN YEARS before all this shit started up.

When the social winds blow again and the SJWs are replaced by, what maybe islamofacists, or robot rights activists, he'll still be drawing asses.
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>>87388035

Blacks and Jews. Holy shit are there are lot of Jews in movies and TV. I don't think I've ever met one but apparently they're 25% of the population. Asians get it rough though. Even now it's hard for them to get non-stereotypical roles. Which is sad because nobody wants to cast nonstereotypical roles anymore. I honestly couldn't tell you which was better, being a caricature with work or often unemployed but progressively cast.
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>>87388518
Thats fine and great and dandy and all, more power to him, absolute top banana

I champion his right to do so

But at what point do we stop pretending he's absolutely based as fuck for doing it for attention?
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>>87384658
Manara is cool but Cho's a whiny manchild and once you've seen one of his comics you've seen all of them.
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>>87388555
Point of clarification. He's not doing it for attention. It's like saying that Frank Miller draws nazi whores for attention.

Two. As long as the current SJW progressive movement is actively against him, I suspect you'll see pushback from here.

It's going to be a while. You might be better off just filtering it if it bothers you.
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>>87388606
I should have been more specific.

When the sjws react to him with, eh, not for me, rather than losing their shit and demanding that he not make Wonder Woman covers, as a semi-hypothetical example
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>>87384892
Nevermind Cho but if you don't know who Manara is, you need some lessons, son.

>>87384658
Aren't SJWs rioting already?
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>>87388331
Leth's Vampirella was so bad Dynamite is trying to forget it ever happened and resurrect the IP with an HBO-pitch soft-reboot.
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>>87388423
It's like you didn't read, we had none because nobody stood up to the theocratic right at the time.
Now we'll be left without aesthetically pleasing women in comics because faggots don't want to stand up to the "progressive" left that is for all intents and purposes the same fucking thing.
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>>87388555
>How long are we gonna lol at a guy shitposting loudly IRL?
Did you get lost in your way to reddit?
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>>87384985
>fighting censorship

/pol/ pls
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>>87388336
>Last time companies listened to soapbox tyrants rather than their fans we lost horror comics forever.
lol
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>>87389026
>it's that guy who uses lol unironically
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>>87388664

So how come Comic Alliance and Mary Sue are calling for his head on a pike if SJWs are so "reasonable" as you describe them to be?
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>>87384658
Cho is merely teasing the Holier Than Thou segment of the politically correct crowd.
Manara is not a yank, and doesn't give a shit about the prevalent PC, sexafraid, neo-puritan shite - he just draws stuff he likes to draw.

You need to look around the wider world, you yanks, you think USA is the world - and it really isn't.

Pic unrelated
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>>87384658
At this point they're just entertaining themselves. I can't see anything truly valuable they're saying by obsessing over this. Are they even profiting from it?
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>>87387498
I'm in love with Holzman
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>>87389177
...says the fat, salty, ugly sjw who gets triggered by any non-repulsive pussy
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>>87387927
Oh grow up Robbie...jeez.
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>>87389202
What have you even got to be angry about here?
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>>87387143
Pichelli draws shota?
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>>87389274
Miles, espeically early on is practically a naked 10 year old in that spandex spider costume.
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>>87389311
sauce? :^)
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>>87387498
>Box office: 229 million USD
>Budget: 144 million USD
Damn, I was hoping that this shitshow would fail.
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>>87385935
>LOOK AT HOW NEUTRAL AND LEVEL HEADED I AM TRULY I DESERVE THE ATTENTION AND THE POON HERE

you're lying if you believe both those posts hold the same weight
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>>87389311
Pics?
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>>87389333
It's a fun flick though - of course it's not iconic like the original was. But it's solid entertainment.
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>>87389399
yeah, it's basically transformers for people without a dick
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>>87387356

you're avatar is missing a sassy 50's lady misses facebook
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/co/mblr containment thread: BTFO edition :^)
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>>87389333
Uh, box office is what the movie theaters bring in. It failed pretty fucking hard. Like a 70 million dollar loss.

>>87389394
I don't have any, but they're floating around out there.
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>>87388076
I missed that. Who was it?
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>>87389311
Pichelli draws a very VERY sexual Miles when it comes to covers
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>>87384658
I think they're both extremely overrated for their artistic skills by a majority of /co/. Even as far as cheesecake goes there's tons of better stuff out there.
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>>87389518
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>>87389530
Wow, yeah, I can see the "male:dilf shota" tags from here.
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>>87389520
see >>87389202
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>>87389530
yeesh, i doubt even hentai gets this hardcore
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>>87389530
Pichelli also draws sexy girls all the time.
Look at this. She's clearly showing her panties to the boys. But the colorist decided she was wearing brown panties because Marvel is a christian company.
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>>87389333
In reality you have to take the budget of the actual movie and double it to take into account marketing that isn't included, so in this case they did lose money on it.

Of course only bitter MRA neckbeards are jaded enough to actually celebrate something like this failing but that's besides the point :^)
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>>87384985
>Just be quiet and let us dictate what can and can't be put in comics.
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>>87384892
milo manara wrote that film with adam sandler where he has the remote that manipulates time
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>>87389555
Oh look, it's a sexualized 14 year old drawn by an italian woman
If this was Cho or Manara the SJW would be losing their shit.
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>>87389333

Box office break even point is budget + marketing x 2. It's not even close yet.
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>>87389576
And look. A comic made by an Italian woman with a variant by Manara.

God what makes your women so nagging and your males so beta?
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>>87389717
>>87389576
women are allowed to draw other women like this,, ,not men
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>>87387927
>you're*
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>>87384658
Manara seems like a cool dude
Cho's just a whiny manchild
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>>87387904

GOD I WANT TO FUCK HER MOUTH SO BAD.
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>>87385351
>nobody cares that he draws cheesecake
Except that's EXACTLY the reason people started hating on his art, not the way he draws faces. Fucking who has complained about same face except you?
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>>87388017
>fiscal conservative

ABOMINATION.
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>>87384658

neat, a picture of three assholes
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>>87386175
>1968
Can't really have been that long, right?
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>>87389936

This would get to many shares on your Tumblr account
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Did anybody screenshot Kate Leth's pro-Manara tweets from a couple years ago before she deleted them?
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>>87387927
https://superiorspidertalk.com/robbi-rodriguez-to-retire-from-comics-with-gwenom-story/
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>>87389961
Why would you assume anyone on /co/ reads Leth's twitter? fuck you.
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>>87389975
There was that one anon that was paying for access to Leth's forum a few months back
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>>87384658
>>87386551
I wish it was a painting of Spider-Gwen
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>>87389576
It is very interesting that somehow for americans this is a super sexualized 14 year old, when you can come to every beach here, and you will see herds of chicks like that, the only difference being shades of skin color, and different hair.
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>Frank Cho drama unrealistic sexy women. He is a sexist racist homophobe, and deserves to be fucking killed. #imwithher #masculinitysofragile

>Wow why is Frank Cho complaining about us calling for him to be burned at the stake? What a baby!
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>>87384658
as much as I like butt and vag Cho needs to fuck off.
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>>87384658
>Art and women panel
I'm triggered
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At least these people are exposing their true feelings now and not hiding behind "muh equality"
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>>87385772
>on the front page
Literally who uses the front page when the catalog exists?
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>>87385630
>Woof
Wtf
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>>87389936
Neat, a comment from 1 dickhead
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>>87389791
Both men and women can draw whatever they want, so blow me
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>>87389567
wait really?

>nope, not even close

am I missing a joke there?
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>>87390390
newfags and tumblrites
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>>87386788
They're just having fun dude, Jesus Christ.
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>>87388909
Well half way as the design is still trash since current year mentality deems the character too sexy.
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>>87389530
that venom is pretty good though.
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>>87390390
I do. I don't like the catalog, can't see whether there's some good shitposting happening in it.
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>OH MY GOD! THESE HORRIBLE CIS MALES!

>Lol, look at these over dramatic cunts.

>UGH! Can you not? You'remind so annoying constantly bringing this up!

Tumblr BTFO.
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>>87389202
"anti-PC virgin lives in the south" faggot coming through
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>>87390374
>she thinks Cho is white
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>>87390374
>calling Cho a white man
Come on, man. How do these mongoloids even learn to breathe?
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>>87385684
how can someone do this and even pretend to be a storyteller? You're nothing but a softcore porn merchant.
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>>87390490
>not already knowing what OP posts create shitposting
Let's not pretend you've been here for more than 5 minutes now, my dear tumblrina.
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>>87390501
>>87390521
He is kind of a waitish. He isn't black, nor is he brasilian, he doesn't look like a german or italian. Color wise he is closest to them. Ergo he is white.
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>>87390374
>Gook and wop
>White men
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>>87390374
>cho
>white
>manara
>""white""

also us against them is the worst thought process
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>>87386416
>>87390351
>>87388560

All of these. Manara is actually legit while Cho is just some cheesecake artist vying for attention through all the SJW outrage to make his dry chink ass feel relevant. How people are dick-riding Cho for this is beyond retarded.
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>>87390434
yes, its not a joke. Click was written by manara
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>>87389555
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>>87389555
What issue is this from?
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>>87390814
>>87389555
this is considered """sexy"""?
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Cho comes off as someone whining about something he's never had to deal with.
"Fighting censorship"? He draws softcore pinups at worst, nobody in any position of power gives a shit about censoring those, outside of general publication guidelines. Especially not now.
Has the man ever even drawn a vagina that wasn't conveniently obscured by something?
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>>87390948
so? thats like me saying im pro abortion even though im not female, or that "pronouns" are a stupid thing. Just cause ive never dealed with it has nothing to do with the issue
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>>87388268
... was that picture in the background ever posted on its own?
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>>87389518
>>87389530
>>87389555
>Pichelli also draws sexy girls all the time.

Oh yes.

Loved her art in USM.
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>>87390963
The difference is that Cho is acting like he's making some kind of difference in some issue of standards that doesn't actually exist anymore. The market doesn't fucking care if you draw dicks and pussies and sexy ladies in your work, censorship is mostly dead nowadays.
It's the same reason people used to rag on Aaron Diaz for acting like his pinups of his robot waifu are something more "important" than the self-indulgent fetish art they are.
If you want to draw tits and butts, literally no one is going to stop you.
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>>87391065
>The market doesn't fucking care if you draw dicks and pussies and sexy ladies in your work, censorship is mostly dead nowadays.
you know its back on the rise though right? Thats kind of what sjws are about right now
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>>87391093
Despite all of the retarded attempts at being "hip" with the inclusive crowd Marvel and DC are doing, the greater market doesn't actually give a shit about SJW opinions. Even if the mainstream falls to pandering to that niche (which it won't, because its too huge and fickle to stay in one place for long), the gigantic independent market's never been stronger thanks to the internet making wider publishing and marketing laughably easy.
The titties aren't going anywhere.
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>>87385806
>Oh no my daughter saw a vagina, her innocence is ruined!
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>>87391031
I actualy caught my sister with that issue. It was not a nice thing to see.
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>>87391065
There is still censorship, I would argue it's stronger than ever. But nobody is trying to censor Cho's women in skimpy clothes, some people are bored with it but nobody is asking for censorship on it. He's just a gigantic manbaby.
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>>87391151
its still being forced foward.

like you need to have a reminder that x is bad when people start pushing x
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>>87391186
>I actualy caught my sister with that issue. It was not a nice thing to see.

I wish I could see your sister.
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>>87385195
Comics AND CARTOONS
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CARTOONS
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>>87386551
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>>87391192
>stronger than ever
Where?
>>87391215
>The drink
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>>87390948
>>87391065
>>87391151
This anon gets it. Cho is just piggybacking on what happened to Manara acting like these censorship "movements" ever gave a shit about him when no one even cares if he keeps drawing his softcore porn (hell it's what he's paid for nowadays). Somehow by placing himself in the heat of it and pretending that artists "like him" are being affected by some censorship boogeyman, he thinks he's fighting the good fight while getting cred for just doing as he normally does as if the outrage somehow makes his drawings more "special" now.
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>>87389576
>>87389717
Pity the yanks and their sexafraid.
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>>87390118
Yah, it's just a girl, no biggie - but to the yankies it's WRAUNG!
Sexualising everything because they're so stiffled, starved of intimacy and terrified of their own bodies.
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>>87389791
Only in america. The rest of the world draws whatever the fuck they want, and pick stuff they like and avoid stuff they don't like, you know, like adults.
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>>87385432

It's a manara butthole though, so they're just dots.

Man does one face and one butthole, and they're both teeny tiny things
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>>87391215
That was quick.
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>>87391289
Nah Cho is piggybacking off what happened to him. The whole outrage bit wouldn't be a thing if nobody said a thing 2 years ago and just let him keep doing his thing. You can say he's beating a dead horse, but the horse DID come at him first he didn't just run up and start beating Milo's dead horse.
And to be fair, why stop? It only seems to get him more money and perks like personalized Manara smut.
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>>87390948
Wow actually you don't know about Cho's prior work do you? Cho used to be in newspaper strips were he was censored. He moved to comics mostly to get away from that. So yeah he actually does know something about censored. A lot of people forget that.
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>>87391539
Was he actually censored in his strip or did people just bitch like they do now? Because Frank has been shitting on these people forever.
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>>87391534
Admittedly he did spin it the best anyone who gets attacked by preachy oversensitive moral police for minor shit an average person has a very hard time caring about can. Didn't even lose his job, which is a miracle.
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>>87385464
Do the x-females have some set-in-stone facial features that travel across different artists then? I always thought every artist draws the faces in their own style and it's mainly the clothes, hair and maybe eye color that makes you recognise them
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>>87391289

>when no one even cares if he keeps drawing his softcore porn

Hes a much bigger target for Tumblr than Manara. His facebook post about this is chock full of angry SJWs that have never visited his page before. All the "progressive" comic book sites and blogs out there are saying how the man should lose his job because his art is somehow "harmful".

Fucking ComicsAlliance owner threw a temper tantrum and said his depression came back when he heard Frank got a job in DC. And you try to pretend SJWs arent going batshit about him. Stop being a dishonest little shit.

I know if I was in his trousers, I'd do the exact same thing that he's doing right now though. Since Tumblr is busy making a lot of noise about your art, might as well make a lot of money with that infamy. His Outrage!-covers sell in few hundred dollars a piece these days, thats how fucking popular they are. From a relatively obscure cheesecake artist to a guy with triple the amount of audience with money because some feminist site tried to invoke a witch hunt on you.
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>>87391583
He's free lance so he doesn't really have a job apart from what he gets. And he has friends in the industry. He was never in any real danger but like I said he's always hated these people and maybe he thinks he's making a safer world for fledgling smut peddlers to grow.
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>>87385587
Jesus this is fucking terrible.
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>>87391213
trust me when you see your own sister shlick to a spider man comic you bought, it kills spider man for you for ever.
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>>87385973
No, that's what happens when artists draw smutty art pieces as personal gifts to other artists and they both have a history of lewd in-jokes regarding a character.

It's not official, it's not commissioned. It's an in-joke.
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>>87384658
-like his art
-love the fact that he as the balls to stand up against libels and their censorship
-think that his spider-gwen comic shorts are hilarious

overall great guy and one of the few people working in the comic book industry that I recognize by name

the fact that /co/mblr get´s so easily triggered by him just gives me more proof that he is in the right here
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>>87391650
Well that depends, what was he shlicking to, Miles in skintight bodysuit, or MJ and Gwen dressing up as sluts?
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>>87391613
>From a relatively obscure cheesecake artist to a guy with triple the amount of audience with money because some feminist site tried to invoke a witch hunt on you.
And that's exactly it. You can hardly call someone a "target" when they literally painted it right smack on their ass and telling the SJWs to "come and get it". No one cared about his softcore porn before (I sure as hell never saw the "noise" every time I saw his art in a comic book), it's only now when he kept throwing himself into the forefront of the issue surrounding Manara's cover that he somehow gets brownie points for it. Also

>I know if I was in his trousers
Should have worded that better.
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>>87391696
> You can hardly call someone a "target" when they literally painted it right smack on their ass and telling the SJWs to "come and get it"

He allows people to PAY HIM to draw a controversial sexy pose. You think that's going too far and making himself too much of a target? He should just out his head down and be a good little soulless comic book illustrator?
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>mfw I discovered that if I oppose censorship then I'm a nazi conservative

Ok /co/ if that's true, ok I'm a conservative.
Hail Hydra!
Cho and Manara are masters of our generation and we all will contribute to comics be totally censored because we who don't agree are not vocal in comparsion to the other "niche" of the "fanbase".
We need to group, crowd a lot of people and tell those retards off, they're fucking comics, video games and other shit just because they want to have something to post on social media and nothing else. Nobody never cared about such things until to that Millenial Social Network big hype in the last few years.
Just be vocal, polite, logical and not retarded like them. You can make people like Robbi shoot their own foot without any effort, just be smart.
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Seriously though what is wrong with americans
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If someone want read the interview

http://www.badcomics.it/2016/11/luccabad-2016-donne-fumetti-frank-cho-incontra-milo-manara/132123/
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>want to do a Cho art dump
>most of the images are too big to be posted
Goddammit nipmoot when are you gonna fix this shit?
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>>87391696
>painted it right smack on his ass
That's retarded, he did what he always did, the whole Spider-Gwen in the Manara pose isn't even original other people did it before him even. It's retarded to think he was actively courting the original response especially when he only posted it to his own blog and twitter. The overreaction he got wouldn't be the first thing I'd expect when making such a tame piece. Afterwards he was just constantly telling them to go fuck themselves though.
>>87391760
>fix
If anything he's probably going to make them smaller.
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>>87391721
>You think that's going too far and making himself too much of a target? He should just out his head down and be a good little soulless comic book illustrator?
Where the fuck did you pull this out from? Are you really that desperate to make a SJW at out of anyone who disagrees with you? I don't give a damn if he draws what he wants (because he always has) regardless of payment, but considering how he basically rode all the way with it after "one commission", that's hardly something to praise him for as "fighting the good fight" when it's all just noise that hardly stops him from continuing his career.
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>>87391775
Fucking moonie fuck. Is there anything he can do right?
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>>87391736
jesus Christ....
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>>87391796
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>>87391796
>>87391820
That's actually pretty good
>>87391826
>SJW proponent
>Superhero
You're clearly the villain of this story.
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>>87391696

>it's only now when he kept throwing himself into the forefront of the issue surrounding Manara's cover that he somehow gets brownie points for it.

He showed solidarity for it, and Tumblr took the bait hook, line and sinker. He became a target because he dared to voice a different opinion on the subject. Whether he did that just because he had dollar signs in his eyes is irrelevant, Tumblr, ComicsAlliance and other similar sites went for it and tried to blackmail out of him from the industry.

That is the best way of countering the "outrage"-culture anyway, making a solid profit off it at their expense. If more artists would openly do that, we wouldnt have had a problem with the oversensitive "progressives" in the first place. Thankfully it finally seems everyone is waking up to the fact they're just loud and nothing else, too bad Marvel had to sink into the worst slump in its history to even get a hint of that.
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>tfw I'm a SJW proponent on various sites with many often agreeing with my opinions while I secretly draw smut on the side to satiate mine and other people's lust

Is this what true power feels like? How it feels to be superhero with dual identities? Being able to control one side and the other while I keep the spoils to myself?
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>>87391781
What Nobel Prize did he win? The guy he defended drew him a smutty picture, is that really too much praise?
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>>87391856
>That is the best way of countering the "outrage"-culture anyway, making a solid profit off it at their expense. If more artists would openly do that, we wouldnt have had a problem with the oversensitive "progressives" in the first place. Thankfully it finally seems everyone is waking up to the fact they're just loud and nothing else, too bad Marvel had to sink into the worst slump in its history to even get a hint of that.
I don't think it was the best way of "countering" the culture but hey, I agree with the rest of this in that I'm just glad it's opening Marvel's eyes and how this shit should be handled.
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>>87391796
>>87391820
Didn't Cho say he likes shit like this at one point? Regardless, this is legit sexual harassment and they can go to court over it.
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>>87391845
>You're clearly the villain of this story.
Fair enough. Still, can't help but say that it feels great.
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>>87390534
Manara is a great storyteller and artist. However, his whole thing is that he draws smut. Smut, sex and unrealistically sexy women have been his thing since the 70s. He's the king of softcore smut eurocomics. That's his reputation. That's what he does. People see the name "Manara" and they expect sex and smut and women drawn in that style.

Marvel knew that, and decided to work with him anyway. Manara's just delivering as expected.
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>>87391892
>At a CalArts end-of-year show, two students exhibited a pencil drawing depicting CalArts faculty, staff and students engaged in sexual acts. In the center of the drawing was a naked sketch of Mary Herberg, an 82-year-old CalArts accounting cashier, straddling a nude male faculty member. Herberg’s daughter, Bobette Heuer, and granddaughter, Deborah Dutro, who both also worked for CalArts, learned about the display early in the day.
>All three family members filed a harassment suit against CalArts. The college responded that the incident didn’t create a hostile work environment. Now a California Court of Appeal has agreed with CalArts. The court concluded that showing the offensive drawing in the gallery for just 24 hours did not constitute severe or pervasive harassment rising to the level of a hostile work environment. Although the artwork upset Herberg and her family members, it didn’t create a workplace so discriminatory and abusive that it unreasonably interfered with their job performance—the standard their suit had to meet. What’s more, the court said, the students’ drawing wasn’t intended to harass but rather to make a point about representational art.
Dumb fuck.
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>>87390534
Because the two aren't mutually exclusive.
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You guys, I want to fuck his line work. Is that normal?
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>>87391933
> the students’ drawing wasn’t intended to harass but rather to make a point about representational art
Kek that's actually pretty smart given how art is all about "freedom of expression".
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>>87391892

>this is legit sexual harassment and they can go to court over it.

No its not. Its incredibly petty but it doesnt break any laws.
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>>87391892
>Regardless, this is legit sexual harassment and they can go to court over it.

>legit sexual harassment

... I just wanted you to reread what you just wrote and think about how wrong that makes you.
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>>87391892
He doesn't outright say he hates it but his tone seems pretty negative despite not bringing his own feelings into the commentary.
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>>87391820
I remember some anon posted pic-related and how one anon actually got triggered by it.
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>>87392030

>Also they noted, if I was a FEMALE artist and Jonathan Wyke depicted me in this fashion, the public outcry would be far different and more shameful.

He's not wrong.
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>>87391979
>>87391989
>Unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors, and other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature that tends to create a hostile or offensive work environment.

This falls in the definition of sexual harassment. Therefore, this is sexual harassment, and if either of these two so wish, they can press charges.
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>>87387402
>goddesses
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>>87392081
Cho and whoever drew those aren't employees of any one company, what work environment is being made hostile or offensive here?
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>>87392081
>other verbal or physical conduct of a sexual nature that tends to create a hostile or offensive work environment.
This is the closest case you've got for it and yet it still has to be proven that it somehow creates a "hostile or offensive work environment" for Cho when these artists are just randoms on the internet.
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>>87392081

You contrast it to the laws about artist freedom and parody and youre not going to make a court case out of this.

Which honestly is a good thing. Prevents people from censoring art because of some stupid shit.
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>>87392081
If they aren't harassing him with it it isn't, its just satire.

I don't like/agree with them either but don't think that's going to stop me calling you out. They are well within their rights to create these images, just as based Cho is to make his.
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>>87392132
>Which honestly is a good thing. Prevents people from censoring art because of some stupid shit.
This. Practice what you preach and not just when it's somehow convenient for you. Much as you might not like it, these artists have the right to produce these just as Cho has the right to keep making his stuff. I don't like it but hey, doesn't mean they can't do it.
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>>87391627
Stop censoring him
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>>87392155
>If they aren't harassing him with it it isn't, its just satire.
this. Any public figure is open to satire and he is putting himself in the open with his draws and his comments on censorship, so it's legal to draw him as satire
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>>87391858

Only if you're secretly littering your SJWisms with madness and folly to ultimately harm the cause.
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>>87385942
Stop censoring him, SJW
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>>87388151
I saw both films, neither had any outstanding performances aside from Stallone.
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>>87392216
It wasn't the complaining that was the censorship, it was the withdrawal.
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>>87392277
Racist.
>>87392278
It's a joke anon.
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>>87392237
I don't. I basically fan the flames of both sides.

As SJWs call for more PC madness due to some of my think pieces, some of my followers call for more porn in fear of the idea that there's not enough lewds out there with SJWs crying foul over everything. I guess in this regard you could say that "super villain" would be more accurate.

I'm not making this shit up btw, and no you'll never get me to admit my two "identities".
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>>87385195
>capes
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>>87392302
>It's a joke anon
I thought as much but some people really don't understand this.
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>>87386922
He's probably the first guy to ever draw porn of a comic porn character

Show some respect to this hero
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>>87392378
Tijuana bibles man, Moore brought them up in Watchmen even.
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>>87392378
He drew Tijuana Bibles?
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I don't get that Black Cat picture.

Her butt is out of the vent. Why is she complaining about it being stuck? And goddamn does Cho over kill with the dialogue bubbles. Show, don't tell, you dip.
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>>87392332

Yoto?
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>>87387955
I find even funnier that most blacks didn't bitch out and there were a number of them in the industry that defended the academy. Funny. I also find it funny after shit like cancel colbert and #aaironfist.
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>>87385195
>if you don't agree with me then you shouldn't be here
Fuck off, tumblr
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>>87384658
I don't give a shit about the politics but it's just gross, and not a graceful way to handle criticism imo. It doesn't matter if the criticism you're getting is justified or not, it's not really how an industry professional should be acting. If people are giving you shit for something stupid just shrug it off and keep doing what you're doing instead of being spiteful.
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>>87392420
Aren't they doing what they're doing though?
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>>87387927


>But Cho actually has a wide variety of body types.

Sure thing
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>>87392420
>keep doing what you're doing
Draw nude girls?
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>>87389333
jesus, /co/mblr is really fucking retarded

you have the budget, and for a shitshow like ghostbusters, you have budget for marketing which is neraly the same as the budget of the movie. so the movie already bombed in that regard

but the theatres take half of the money they make. then distributors take 35% of this. if the distributor actually paid Producer to make movie they have to pay it back with interest. and that's the only stuff me know. plus stuff other than the movie, like toys. but nobody bought ghostbusters toys. I mean the new ones, with Harambe Jones

do you remember Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix? or Return of the Jedi? According to the studios, these movies never made money. The Eternal Jew is strong in Hollywood.
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>>87392420
If you're referring to Cho, he kept doing what he was doing and continued to draw smutty commissions.
If you're referring to Manara, he kept doing what he was doing and continued to draw hyper-sexualised drawings that repressed Americans consider gross.

So really, you want them to STOP doing what they've always been doing, but that doesn't sound like a reasonable viewpoint so you're lying to yourself.
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>>87389154

The US isn't the only country with people that act like that, dipshit
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>>87392420
They're celebrating the female form, which is something they've been doing for decades. You defending their critics won't change that.
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>>87388420
And yet there are plenty of blacks who do just as well as whites. You'd call them outliers, yet so are you. Entitlement doesn't stop with them and too many times other groups point it out to take the heat off whatever awful thing their group is known for.
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>>87392332
Have you ever posted your stuff on here?
Are you actually anyone big?
>>87392392
Those thick thighs still gotta get through
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>>87392446
>>87392466
>>87392477
>>87392479
Not exactly. What I meant by "keep doing what you're doing" was "ignore the criticism" instead of bringing the incident into his professional work by drawing spiteful stuff like this. It's probably not going to look very attractive to employers in the industry, though I'm sure there are some of them don't really care.
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>>87392467
>/co/mblr
Has this word lost all meaning now? The anon you were replying to wants Fembusters to fail. That's the opposite of what tumblr wants.
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>>87390434
Yeah it's a joke. Manara wrote and drew an erotic graphic novel in the 80's called Click.
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>>87387931
I don't how black how actors defended the academy yet it was buried so hard, that everyone here thinks all of them feel that way.
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>>87392420
>>87392498

This. Cho's art was fun when it just about the cheesecake and not some half-hearted attempt to stir up some outrageâ„¢ that I couldn't give a damn about.
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In a perfect world Marvel could sue these two for mistreating their IPs
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>Cho fans get triggered even harder than sfaggot SJWs

Fuckin' nerds

Start supporting comic artists who draw more than one body and face
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>>87392498
Marvel published that "ask me about my feminist agenda" cover on the last issue of a canceled series, which was significantly more spiteful than anything Cho and Manara have been commissioned to do by fans.
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>>87392496
>Have you ever posted your stuff on here?
Sometimes yeah.

>Are you actually anyone big?
Not really. I just started out about a year or two ago but I'm slowly building a following.
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>>87392537
Your perfect world is a world without fanart?
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>>87392498
You're really showing your ignorance if you think Milo Manara needs to be worried about pissing off Marvel comics.

The fact that you consider depicting a women's body sexually to be spiteful is also quite telling.

>>87392532
People literally pay him for those commissions. You could go and pay him for some straight cheesecake if you want, or just look through the myriad of cheesecake pictures that aren't the 15 or so Manara-riffing pictures he's done. This is just a weak excuse.
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>>87392537
>In a perfect world Marvel could sue these two for mistreating their IPs
lol no
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>>87392420
>it's just gross
That's you're opinion. You're terrible, terrible opinion.

>It doesn't matter if the criticism you're getting is justified or not
It does. You shouldn't follow bad advice. Where is the criticism coming from? Are they trying to put you down or are they trying to help you improve? Do they know what they're talking about? Do they have experience with it, knowledge about it, or are they just guessing?

Taking criticism well =/= a gullible robot who blindly follows people's advice

>If people are giving you shit for something stupid just shrug it off and keep doing what you're doing instead of being spiteful.
Nah, if people act retarded you should be able to call them out on it.

Being professional shouldn't be the same as being some jerk's punching bag.
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>>87392538
Funny you should say that. I never really look at Cho's art unless I need a good fap but I rarely if ever buy any of his books because his art tends to look garbage outside of pinup style works and covers.
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>>87390374
>comics community
There are tons of other stuff than geek culture oriented shit out there. I bet this idiot doesn't even read comics and thinks that comics is a genre that can only be capeshit/sci-fi/fantasy etc.

>your daughters want to see in their heroes
Capeshit is targeted toward 40+ male loser geeks, not little girls.
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>>87390374
So this... is the true power... of Social Justice....

Whoa....
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>>87385541

But that's the point: that's childish behavior.

The most vocal people in both sides of the argument have an investment in making loud statements because they get press and followers.

Meanwhile, most rational people understand that there is enough room for all types of taste. Progressive work, regressive work, prude, erotic, sexy, cute... Comics are selling like they haven't in decades and people are fighting for scraps. I met totally progressive female comic creators who make outright porn on the side, and old school male comicbook artists who have tempered down the stereotypical characters.

People on both sides are just addicted to drama. They don't give a shit about the medium
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>>87392503
this place, AS A WHOLE, is /co/mblr. there's no denying that, just looking at this thread, it's 100% true. it's like saying "but there are straight guys in /lgtb/". yeah, sure. but the majority of them are from lgbt "community"
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>>87392569
>This is just a weak excuse.
Hardly an excuse given how I just said that I don't care for his politics-driven BS and just prefer straight up softcore porn like he used to do. Commission or not, you can decline that shit so it's not like he's magically bound to them unless he's just hungry for money (which he obviously is). Likewise, that's just a weak excuse.
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>>87391736
I hate Cho. I don't think anyone should try to stop him, but I hate his work. This post though is unnacceptable. What kind of fucking idiot blocks nondescript tits out of goddam ART
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>>87392668
And why does it affect you? Keep jacking off to the 90% of his output that is straight cheesecake.
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>>87392661
>just looking at this thread
You mean this thread of fags just trying to bait for replies? That's normal for any thread on 4chan.

It's easy to get a rise out of people like you by pretending to be a tumblr user. I can do it right now and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Watch. I'll post an example soon.
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>>87390374
>>87392614
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>>87392689
it's doesn't matter if it's a game of pretending. ironic shitposting might be ironic, but it's still shitposting. anway, I don't care, just trying to explain why ghostbusters flopped
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>>87392648
>People on both sides are just addicted to drama. They don't give a shit about the medium
This. I've seen progressive artists go hand in hand with some erotic art and yet somehow the drama this has caused deserves more attention because it's supposedly calling out "censorship"? Get the fuck out of here with that shit.

I don't want to say "only in America" but given how even Cho off-handedly said it, I think it's only right to say "only in America".
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>>87392688
Hey man, that extra 10% still counts for something. I don't want to start fapping only to stop after coming across what I realize is some BS propaganda piece the Cho farted out when I could have had more vanilla cheesecake instead of his "outrage" shit.
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I like tits and asses.
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Did we just hit critical mass on the shitposting?
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>>87392789

Reported to the feminist secret police.
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>>87392903
I also like vaginas. And penises.
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>>87392923
What about penises on girls (male)?
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>>87392943
Sure.
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>>87392923
>I also like vaginas
Objectifying women down to their genitalia
VERY MISOGYNISTIC
>and penises
Not objectifying women down to their genitalia
EXACTLY AS MISOGYNISTIC!
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>>87385995
https://youtu.be/CB6TiRJNI-Q
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>>87392420
>it's just gross
Hello, /co/mblr!
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>>87392670
Why do you hate his work? He's a really good artist.

Or do you just mean his parody covers?
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>>87392420

What is so unprofessional about it? Cho and Manara both make their professional art career living by drawing lewds. If you've ever seen the kind of comics Manara has done in his career (like Borgia), you'd understand how all the SpiderWoman stuff he's ever drawn is tame as shit in comparison.

Its like you're complaining about two Punk bands telling censorship-nannies to go fuck themselves as being "unprofessional". They're Punk bands, they're supposed to act like anarchists and tell everything to fuck off.
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>>87392498
>It's probably not going to look very attractive to employers in the industry,

The sales figures Cho gets from the OUTRAGE!-covers milking this whole ordeal is very attractive to employers who give any worth to financial success.
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>>87385584
Draw sexy women?
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>>87386239
shes green
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>>87390534
>You're nothing but a softcore porn merchant.

So?
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>>87387864
>Did someone publicly accuse Manara of being a pedophile?

Cho got the accusation when he drew Spider-Gwen.
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>>87390554
He's the enemy.
That makes him white in defiance of facts or evidence which we all know are patriarchal concepts and inherently biased.
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>>87386239
>sandals

euwww
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>>87393470
How old's Spider-Gwen supposed to be?

Surely a paedophile is someone who is attracted to children, as in a prepubescent. Gwen is clearly not a child.
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>>87393691
Like the guy who directed birth of a nation, wayne brady, bill Cosby etc
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>>87393205
And he should own it, instead of being ashamed of it and pretending to be something else.
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>>87393470
If you read the tweets Robbie just got mad over what was being done to Spider-Gwen due to her being Robbie's "creation". Usually some artists/writers call their creations their "children" and it has jack shit to do with accusing Cho of paedophilia.

Seriously you fuckers love stirring up a circlejerk of drama even when there's none to be had.
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>>87393980
You talking about Manara? His whole schick is reveling in drawing erotica. He's owned it for the last thirty years.

>>87393918
Gwen is college aged, but everyone who complained about Cho's drawing conveniently ignored that. Everyone acted like she was underaged.
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>>87393918
She's in college so 18 minimum, but these days, college aged women are considered children.
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>>87385351

>Cho draws art and posts it on his blog like he normally does

>Retard goes to his blog https://archive.is/Zw6IH and gets offended saying he shouldn't draw something even though it's well within his rights and tries to tie it to a bunch of things that Cho has no control over


This is literally because someone told him "we know you can but don't do that"
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>>87389555
Wait wait wait wait
Who's that girl and from which comic is it?
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>>87384658
Why I can see her vulva? Why is Sipder Woman suit that tight?
>>87384892
Manara draw City Hunters.
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>>87394031
I'm not even talking about Robbi, you cock mongler, but the peanut gallery that came after.
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>>87387927
>"professional" writer
>can't write "you're" correctly
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>>87394160
Its taking the piss. Its the same scene that started it from a different angle.
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>>87394212
Artist actually, and he is legally blind.
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>>87393887
>White undershirt
>Shorts
>Sandals
He dresses like he's doing one last thing before going to bed.
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>>87394247
>"professional" artist
>blind
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>>87394112
Ultimate Spider-man before Peter died.
Girl is Lana something aka Bombshell.
She doesn't show up very often, which is a disgrace.
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>>87394334
Cho's sick burn blinded him.
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>>87389518
>They were mad over Riri
>not this
I think we've finally reached the point where even though we're not white, our gender trumps all. We did it, we're finally problematic.
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>>87393980
You don't know Milo Manara or his work at all, do you, moron?

He does own it. He's famous because he's been drawing daring erotica since the 70s. He's the most famous erotica comic maker there is, imo. His most succesful works are full on pornos in comic form, showing full frontal nudity including erections and sex. It's what people expect when they see the name "Manara", smut and sex and o-faces and lewds of hot women.


Seriously if you're talking about a person you should at least try to figure out what they're famous for before embarrassing yourself like that. "Being ashamed of it", holy shit.
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>>87394368
Sorry brother.
To be fair, that was in 2012 when the SJW weren't totally outside of tumblr.
Women are more oppressed apparently.
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>>87385587
Ok the faces are awful but the rest is 10/10
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>>87394405
Shame all his women look like a bunch of very sexy Lord Voldemorts
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>>87394339
I can see why is she called Bombshell
>>87389555
Damn bombs
I hope she does not end with Miles, she is too good for such a beta.
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>>87390534
boo this uneducated piece of garbage
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>>87394496
>I can see why is she called Bombshell
Because she creates explosions from her hands
Also Bendis totally forgot about her weakness, sup with that?
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>>87388732

Nope. This happened at an Italian convention called Lucca Comics.

Nobody gives a fuck about sexism in comics here.

And especially, nobody shits on Manara at a comic books convention.
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>>87384658
Imagine if this was Wonder Woman instead of Spider Woman.
Cucka would be on a suicide watch.
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>>87394405
>O-faces
I associate those more with Land, sad as that is.
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>>87385587
I like how there are people shitting on Manara for this but are completely glossing over the fact that Chris "fetish fuel" Claremont is the writer.
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>>87388046
Some of the stats are a bit fishy considering I'm not quite sure where they draw the "mixed" line at. Combine that with about 8 million illegal immigrants as part of the latino population in America.
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>>87394496
Her ultimate boyfriend wasn't all that assertive, though I doubt she'll be joining Miles's harem.
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>>87394488
>Shame
Sexy Voldemorts are pretty cute.
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>>87393980

>Manara

>just a softcore porn artist ashamed of his work.

Jesus /co/mblr is fucking dumb at times. No sense of the greats of the comic industry, whatsoever.

Someone should storytime Manaras Borgia here even at the risk of getting banned for posting fucked up historical porn that borders on guro.
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Down with the censor. Americans are prudes that lies about their needs. Clinton, Trump, the average american man! It's not their fault they lack proper women to serve their needs.
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>>87385587
It's very ironic that he is better at drawing men, with distinct facial features and body types.
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>>87388151
Well let's take it straight from the horse's mouth. Haven't seen anyone quote other black people in the industry yet, just a vague "they" feel this way.
>http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-mn-sylvester-stallone-diversity-oscars-luncheon-20160208-story.html

Ice Cube felt the same way funnily enough.
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>>87394488
Yeah he seems to have a thing against noses, which is a bit of a shame.
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>>87394540
>Bendis
>Remembering something
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>>87394582
>>87388046
I don't know what the line on Latino is at all. Sometimes it's interchangeable with Hispanic which you can be regardless of race. Zoe Saldana isn't mixed in the sense we typically use, she's just straight Dominican which is an afrolatino ethnicity. There shouldn't really be a line, and she identifies as black too.
>>87394632
>Draws a heavier chick one scene
>She's actually getting fucked
>She's literally decapitated by the next page
C'mon Milo
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>>87387794
It's because we get 20 new threads every day shitting on some new SJW/twitter/TheMarySue article/comic, and we have been for the last two years.

By this point some people are getting sick of how much this shit gets spammed. That and a lot of the /co/mblr crowd is just people baiting.
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>>87384658
I've been at Lucca Comics in the wrong day and I missed this, so fuckin sad.

Also, it's so tumblr in here.
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>>87394584
I don't think that's how it works.
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>>87394811
Makeshift silencer.
Anything works according to CSI.
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>>87394605
What's guro?
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>>87394769
>for the last two years.
someone is new
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I prefer europ comics.
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>>87388080
Who cares? If a book is good, it's good. If a book is bad, it's bad. What the women wear really doesn't, and shouldn't matter to anyone. To the same extent that people should chill out over scantily clad women, people need to chill when they cover up.
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>>87394869
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>>87388137
You should stay away too. Then maybe they'll go away.
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>>87388078
>I haven't seen a single person actually upset over Cho's artwork in years
So you don't come to /co/ at all.
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>>87394967
Anon, this will trigger some mods.
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>>87394967
Is this rape or rough sex? Also what is this? Is it porn?
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>>87394996
What? Are you an sperglord?
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>>87395023
No it won't.
Trigger is posting a comic page about jewish girls getting fucked in concentration camps by nazis.
I have seen it. I have gained ownership over it.
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>>87388331
Men 92 was based on the tv show, so it's not really an example of the 90's coming back.

Plus the costume design changes happened months before the controversy, so no, they really weren't attached it.
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>>87388420
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>>87388078
Rucka wants to have a word with you.
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>>87389998
No
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>>87389147
>implying they don't do that just to outrage you and get hits
>implying you aren't the one getting trolled
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>>87395063
....what?
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>>87389563
>Chofags this butt hurt
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>>87389920
Doesn't change the fact that it's impossible to critics him without people whining about "censoring his art"
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>>87395266
Would help if people actually criticized him and didn't rely on shitting on his art
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>>87389998
I wish it was Wonder Woman.
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>>87395142
>>87388664
>he thinks that the SJWs are just saying "eh not for me"

https://www.reddit.com/r/comicbooks/comments/5adc9c/nsfw_milo_manara_just_gifted_frank_cho_a/


how can one idiot be so wrong
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>>87395176
What, what?
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>>87391192
>stronger than ever
>stronger than the comics code

Newfags get lost
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>>87392605
You are right on everything except for
>Capeshit is targeted toward 40+ male loser geeks, not little girls
That's sadly not the trend anymore.
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>>87395405
It is for DC, which is why they've dominated market share for the past four months.
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>>87389791
equality everyone
>>
I wish all the capeshit TV-shows/movies would start to flop, so comics would be for the nerds again.
>>
The a HUEG difference of market tastes between american and european.
American don't like explicit things unless it's violence like Crossed. That's the stuff that raises their boners up. European market is more focused on infidelities stories. For example, I have a comic whose plot is about a french couple with a daughter and her babysitter. The woman is cheating on her husband and wants to find a way to get it all while ensuring she gets the custody of the child, the husband doesn't even dream she's fucking a black. So, she hire her babysitter which is underage to seduce him and paint him as a pedophile...LONG STORY SHORT. Guy gets ruined, loses everything to bitch wife and her daughter is taken away, his reputation is low and has to give the house to her before she tells him she planned it all and that he was an idiot.
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>>87385698
I would fuck that sexy pig any day of the week.
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>>87395638
Here's the cover.
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>>87392539
>sarcastic t-shirt is spiteful
>not getting that it's a joke

Yeah, keep that outrage going
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>>87395686
Huh... I take the violence over this shit
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>>87387636
Nah, Cho is consistent.
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>>87394584
Kek
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>>87394368
I see nothing wrong with that cover
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>>87395700
Me too.
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>>87395333
>criticizing his art
>"that's not real criticism"
>>
Manara is mostly for women readers. Personally, I prefered Cho to draw the poses of Manara, not his style of stories. For example, in the satyricon of millo manara, it's full of gay orgies.
I should know. I've had it in my hands.
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>>87396028
Did you have something else in your hands too?
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>>87396028
And let me say just one more thing! Before amazon was taking baby steps for dinosaur erotica for women, Milo was drawing full blown stories about it!!! You ain't seen shit until you've seen a velociraptor hate fucking an amazonian like woman!
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>>87395722
>Nah, Cho is consistent.
Exactly, just like your average cape artist.
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>>87395810
I don't see anything wrong with the Iron Man one either.
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>>87395927
There's a difference between calling him a shitty artist because he dared to draw Wondies spats and saying so because of phoning in shitty covers

Guess which is valid
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>>87395039
something somethig maisons rouge

The title is something along those lines. It's actually italian, despite the name. Nothing spectacular, but it has some neat art.
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>>87396115
The average cape artists is not consistent. Most of them are pretty damn sloppy.
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yaaas queen
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>>87396508
Don't have any where near the grasp on anatomy Cho has either.
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