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Good evening owls of /co/,

Throwdown time
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>that scanbro storytime
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>the state of Waid
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>>87378884
my desire to hand out candy <<<<<< my desire to avoid mosquitos

so how about that Champions #2
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>>87378903
>>87378923
GMTA
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>>87378928
kids need to learn to buy discounted candy the day after Halloween like real Americans
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>>87378928
why does he have the Starbrand?

I can't believe he used the word microaggressions
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>>87378963
What does that mean?
No, seriously, I don't know what GMTA means.
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>>87378903
>>87378923
Champions is pretty damn bad so far and Ramos art isn't helping at all.

Waid is clearly past his prime or really needs to cut down on the number of books he's writing.
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>>87378972
Right, i long ago figured out that "now that I am a grownup, I can buy bacon/candy whenever I want it, but it's nice to do it cheap"

>>87378989
He picked it up on a trip to the New Universe like 20 issues ago

>>87379006
great minds think alike
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>>87379021
I think Impulse was a fluke and Waid was never good with youngsters
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>>87379030
also, thanks Milo Manara for drawing us Jess Drew's vulva in detail
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>>87379059
This is just the one thing I cannot give a single fuck about today.
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>>87379059
oh for fuck's sake, this is the kind of stuff Khouri was subtweeting
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>>87379060
Impulse is pretty cringy I tried reading it last year
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>>87378928
RIP children's holiday innocence.
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>>87379072
Agreed
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>>87379060
Yeah

Though Impulse isn't as good as some other youngster books out there
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>>87379059
What if we didn't talk about it and say we did.
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>>87379072
vulva is such a gross word to me, but I guess labia is too medical?
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>>87378903
>>87378923
Link?
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>>87379072
>I have supreme authority over my fellow Elders

Bullshit. You'd have done something about the Exterminator if that was the case.
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>>87379072
And her actual butthole.

Might as well colored her peach and remove the lines that indicate the design of her outfit.
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>>87379059
Which site?
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>>87379072
I don't really know how Manara got into superhero things but ero comics are a thing in Italy, there are a ton of them.
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>>87379162
it autosaged >>87370964
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>>87378884
Hello Storyteller.

... I hate this fucking Halloween theme, and these fucking skeleton gifs.
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>>87379158
well labia refers more to a specific part, vulva is the whole area
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>>87379158
You can see the whole kit, so that's what I went with

It's a pity because his watercolors are beautiful, but that's a "she's a slab of meat" drawing.

>>87379224
oh, absolutely, it fits within the genre, it's just kind of *sigh* by now, and I thought some of the original OUTRAGE!!! trolling was funny.
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>>87379144
>nobody will ever draw Spider-Woman's butthole as a gift for you
why live
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>>87379251
It doesn't really surprise or shock me because it's just a continuation of what they've been doing
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>>87379158
I think they've both kind of medical desu.
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>>87379059
I mean...she actually kind of has a point...
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>>87379186
Strangely, I am okay with this.
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>>87379283
I think the anatomical detail pushes it one trolling level too far for me, YMMV

It's more objectifying and a lot less fun than Jim Balent
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>>87379231
Go on a mobile, they aren't there.
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>>87379342
but the ads are!
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>>87379325
but also IMO the only way to deal with this is to fucking ignore it, because they're gonna do what they want and giving them attention or talking about b&s just fuels a martyr complex
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>>87379365
UHOH

but seriously, that IS THAT A ....MICROAGGRESSION? page, holy shit, no one said "this sucks" in editorial phase
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>>87379072
>>87379144
Manara and Cho are attention whoring as hard as they can, and I honestly can't see to what end. If this is about fighting censorship, you should be directing your efforts to something that matters worth a shit. The world will not be improved by turning every piece of media into porn.

>inb4 some smartass says "Yes it will!"
No, it fucking won't. Stop trying to make this shit seem like a real problem, you fucking retards.
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>>87379251
I think it's because the joke is stable by now.
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>>87379325
There is a sincerity and sense of fun to *TAROT, WITCH OF THE BLACK ROSE* sure. I'm not trying argue for the Cho/Manara thing, my reaction is just "Oh look. They did it again."

The worst thing that can happen is they push it so far that DC actually does cut ties with Cho, in which case he just goes and panders to people who are outraged about the outrage of his OUTRAGE! and makes $$$ and maybe writes some shitty ecchi thing. Manara doesn't give a fuck about Marvel or DC. The only winning move is not to play.
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>>87379396
You know what actually amuses me? Drones will still defend Champions.

Also, Viv should've died at the end of Vision.
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>>87379411
Right, Manara is 1) old 2) Italian, his art of not giving a fuck is probably legendary.
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>>87379399
but muh dick
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>>87379399
I just don't understand why they don't do straight up porn...
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>>87379396
>MICROAGGRESSION
Dare I ask what a "microaggression" is?
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>>87379468
Manara has done plenty of erotica

but 99% of it is anal and I can only handle so much butt stuff
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>>87379453
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>>87379468
They do. That's Manara's main thing.
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>>87379484
it's when you're accidentally passive aggressive to somebody and they get all pissy about it
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>>87379396
It's just bad. Not even that page specifically, but the tonal jump in the last pages of the first issue, the fact the first two issues are "team backstory" then "individual team member backstory" the teen drama with zero set-up, the attempt to insert dialogue that proves you are not a grandpa eating it. Shit sucks.
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>>87379484
It's a thing that's a little racist but not like KKK racist.
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>>87379396
So far Champions has been so "How do you do, fellow kids?" it actually hurts

Eat it grandpa
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>>87379484
It's when someone wails on you after shrinking down with a dose of Pym Particles.
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>>87379484
One millionth of an aggression, if I remember my SI prefixes correctly.
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>>87379484
Little things that don't count as full-on harassment because either unintentional or passive-aggressive enough to be deniable, but they add up
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>>87379484
Basically lesser forms of mistreatment (along the -isms lines). Like making assumptions, things that aren't a big deal when they happen but over time can feel shitty.

Another one of those terms that can be useful but has been abused by people looking for attention.
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That microagressions panel looked so much like parody that I can't even understand how it could have been meant seriously.
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>>87379468
Because... um... No seriously, why the hell don't they just make porn? Porn exists for exactly the kind of stuff they want to draw, so just do that. Do they think there's no money or prestige in it? Because if so, they are sorely mistaken.

>>87379454
Your genitalia is meaningless unless it has the ability to advance medical technology and stop wars.
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>>87379606
Manara does

I dunno why Cho doesn't, he clearly wouldn't mind. Wonder if he thinks it would damage his job opportunities with cape books or something
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>>87379576
Because Marvel has NO FUCKING IDEA what they are doing, man. That ship is not only rudderless it's in the Bermuda triangle and the crew are all demented fucking ghosts. It is something special when editorial are clearly willing to get up in the guts of a comic and wield heavy influence, and yet at the same time have no plan or idea whatsoever themselves. They might as well be spinning a roulette wheel for editing.
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>>87379484
It's a Tumblr/'SJW term for what in the old days would be considered for"a small thing someone did to annoy me". Usually used to compare to a macro aggression like "getting my ass kicked".

Whenever I see microagfeessions brought up, it seems like it's a special snowflake bitching that someone is generally accept their unique trait, but miss something. Like asking a transexual if they're a guy or a girl, so you can use the right pronoun.
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>>87379606
bby, let me sho u ur genitalia arent meaningless
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>>87379571
ding ding ding, it's a useful concept that's being extended and destroying its usefulness
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>>87379693
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BMNUBJ2AVoM/?hl=en

How long do you think it took Lee to carve that pumpkin?
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>>87379749
waifu academy was doing so well with a balanced event, but now getting Blade is utterly lulzily impossible
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>>87379566
>>87379571
Ah, that makes sense, and I've certainly seen that kind of shit before.

>>87379693
>It's a useful concept that's being extended and destroying its usefulness.
Just like pretty much everything else.
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>>87379771
hey, he actually hit a deadline!
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>>87379771
Holy shit they have 9 kids? 9?
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>>87379778
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>>87379843
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>>87379626
>I dunno why Cho doesn't, he clearly wouldn't mind.
Judging by his behavior, he may just be pretentious about it, as if porn is "beneath" him and he needs freedom to express his art in a "proper" medium.

Pure conjecture of course, but considering all the bullshit he's displayed, I could see that being the case.

>Wonder if he thinks it would damage his job opportunities with cape books or something
Again, he'd be mistaken, considering that the artist of the current Green Lantern books is primarily known for drawing dickgirls.
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>>87379897
Green Arrow

if only, he'd draw some sexy Hal, tho
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>>87379897
>Again, he'd be mistaken, considering that the artist of the current Green Lantern books is primarily known for drawing dickgirls.
Green Arrow, not Lantern

Would not say no to futa Arisia though
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>>87379928
>if only, he'd draw some sexy Hal, tho
if they'd just let Hal be in Ollie's book and hang out with him and Dinah like they used to then we'd get sexy Hal AND muh OT3!
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>>87379928
>Green Arrow
Right, my bad.

You are now imagining Dinah with a thick, pulsating cock, dripping with precum.
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>>87379468
Why is "porn" the only other option?
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>>87379626
>Wonder if he thinks it would damage his job opportunities with cape books or something
The big two really do not care what you draw as long as you don't draw outright CP.

Hell Ricken drew questionable shota stuff, and drew TT covers and interiors (I think) and is even designing hot glueable male statues.
And Schmidt draws dickgirls and Amanda Conner draws loads of naked heroes.
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>>87379960
I always imagine that.
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>>87379960
joke's on you, I was already imagining that
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>>87379967
what do you mean?
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Shit I thought you were starting later!!

Fuck Cho and Manara, whenever they get out of their lanes they're such fuck ups.
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>>87379953
I agree with this OT3

>>87380040
the mosquitos got to me :(
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>>87379967
I'm not sure how many options there are when the things you want to draw the most are boobs and anus closeups
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>>87379960
>>87380006
>>87380007
This joke got so old, it no longer even steals a slight smile from me anymore. Leave it to /co/ to completely run a joke into the ground.
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>>87379227
Thanks anon, I kek'd too hard at this >>87372075. Bravo Waid, you're really making a comic for this generation.
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>>87380051
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>>87379484
In the old days, we called it "Being an asshole."
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>>87380020
Whenever the subject of cheesecake is brought up, there's always the "why don't you just draw/look at porn?" argument that pops up. Why is such an extreme always presented?
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>>87380084
on /co/ it's not even a joke, just a statement
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>>87380084
I don't even like joking about this shit anyone, since no one can take a joke anymore. And I mean in the sense that statements are taken at face value.
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>>87380095
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>>87380203
so what is everyone picking up this week?
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>>87380235
Flintstones and Shade
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>>87380115
Because the sheer attention given to showing off the goods suggests that's what the artist wants to do. In most stories, the sexual elements are distracting and unnecessary. Unless the fucking is the focus of the work, it really has no reason to be there.

And it ain't like porn can't have a story, just tell a story where the focus is on people fucking. I've read porn comics that had fairly engaging storylines, like Alfie. Just do that and stop trying to force things where they don't belong.
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>>87380115
Because unlike other cheescake artist Cho brings nothing to the table except a hot female body. People like Paquette or March or even Conner with her expressive faces actually do fun and cool interior art, Cho is just boring. Besides, as other have pointed out, that Manara cover is straight up porn-ish anyway what with the vagina and asshole being drawn, I mean... might as well just do penetration.

But like I said, unlike other artists, Cho doesn't really care about the medium, he makes pin ups and covers with jokes that I was hearing and saying 20 years ago.
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>>87380267
>Cho is just boring.
I like the pages he drew of DKR because it shows how lifeless his art is
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>>87380235
Midnighter/Apollo, Flintstones

just the preview for Flintstones is already brutal
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>>87380235
Shade, Midnighter and Apollo, Batman...
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>>87380267
when Cho feels like it he's a solid enough storyteller, IMO

>>87380303
Yeah, you know this one's gonna hit hard
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I liked Champions, it was cute, fun, and enjoyable. I think Waid has a good handle on everyone and I want more interactions. Ramos isn't the best but he isn't a Booth either
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>>87380235
Flintstones, Shade the Changing Girl, and Middy/Polly.

Shade was surprisingly good.
If Mother Panic is good then YA is 4/4 for me.
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>>87380235
Shade, Flintstones, Midnighter, Foolkiller. And Champions ofc
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>>87379576

Because Marvel is evil and hates comics duh! Just look at who they're letting on teams
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>>87378884
Hey OP, get many kids?
Get any tricks?

Here, have a treat.
Gruenwald and Mike Carlin doing a cable access sketch show while they were both Bullpen Staffers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mp-XkXqQNdg
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>>87380348
a storyteller he is not. You might argue about other aspects of his art being good sometimes on interiors, but his layouts are beyond boring, his characters don't display enough personality and movement and his facial expressions are weak.
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>>87380443
YMMV
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>>87379072
Truly, a Throw Our Heads Back and Laugh moment.
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>>87380555
So my sister showed me a pic of a kid in a Carol Danvers Captain Marvel costume, and I had to explain "Awww, a little fascist!" to her
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>>87380406
>and hates comics duh

Well, you're not wrong.
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>>87380587
>First they came for the Inhumans and I did not speak out because I was not an Inhuman.
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>>87379251
Gruenwald and Defalco's defacto self inserts teaming up is just marvy.
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>>87380587
I tried going as Genis-Vell one year, but then I remembered that a white guy painting his face mostly black would never fly.
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Y'know thinking of it was actually some weak-ass shit that when MAC took Carol to a reality where predictive justice won it was Doom that was in charge of everything. Should've had the balls to have Carol be The Dictator.
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>>87380587
Big Bang was talking about Marvel FOC and it's grim for them
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>>87379365
>We ought to try an experiment

This on the same page with communal bathing?
Such Lewdness.
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https://twitter.com/tommyleeedwards/status/793161874888097796
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>>87380701
OP's comics always have some lewdness, be it naked Karla or Jake's sex dungeon.
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>>87380670
>Should've had the balls to have Carol be The Dictator.
Can't do that, because having Carol be a well-intentioned extremist/anti-villain would venture into the oh so dangerous waters of having a clear direction.
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>>87380691
would you like to go talk to Vance?
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>>87380743
I still don't know what that book is about and I read the preview.
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>>87380743
Damn, he says he'll need a colorist to do a few fill ins. Worrisome. He should talk to Lee Loughridge and not let DC assign a random ass guy on it.
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>>87380743
If nothing else Mother Panic is going to destroy on art.

>>87380774
Rich Gotham socialite punishes bad rich Gotham socialites as a brutal vigilante.
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>https://twitter.com/FabianNicieza/status/793241625778589696

So has there been some feud between Slott and FabNic that I've been avoiding?
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>>87380756
or huge amounts of /d/

>>87380805
FabNic really enjoys poking Slott for wasting time being a dick on the internet instead of doing some fucking work
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>>87380805
Oh man that fuckin burn
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>>87380800
Isn't Paul Leon is the second artist on the book since they're both really slow?
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>>87380831
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>>87380774
I mean, wen the preview for Deathstroke Rebirth showed up I was no impressed at all, to say the least. Good comics don't try to do cheap shocks and shit to hook you in. Good storytelling means an entire issue of goodness, not just a 4-5 pages. Don't know about the writer, but Tommy Lee Edwards is amazing.
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>>87380756
>>87380831
I think it's much more that we're all sad pervs than the comics are actually lewd.
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>>87380886
Guy Gardner Colon Warrior was honestly lewd
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>>87379843
How did no one else comment on "Smack the butchwax off her"?
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>>87380852
I've heard rumors but I have not heard any confirmation that JPL will be on it. I think it's just speculation on him and Tommy Lee Edwards being really good friends and them having a similar style.
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>>87380909
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>>87380691
>zero orders for Foolkiller
What a surprise huh? Feels bad man.
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>>87379940
>She was twelve INCHES
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>>87380934
l-live a poem?

we always knew we're getting like five issues, at least
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>>87380987
>SHE WAS 28!
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>>87381001
I can't believe they literally call Cyclops Hitler
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>>87380095
Wendell Vaughn hates limbs with the passion of a Jedi.
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Hope my shop has the Liefeld Foolkiller variant!!
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>>87381020
>Her planet uses the metric system
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>>87381001
Sure. And I have no idea if it'll be any good or not. The Gerber thing was just such a pure and interesting expression of a vigilante comic, like to me way more than even the Punisher is, it's sad that no-one holds a soft spot for it. I'm being a hypocrite though, because I didn't either until I read it here.
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>>87380918
They were both in the original press release.

>And finally Mother Panic co-written by Way with Jody Houser and art from John Paul Leon and Tommy Lee Edwards
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>>87381031
I do wonder what they're going to do to unfuck Cyclops when they realize that constantly shitting on the X-men isn't making them any money
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>>87381031

Still without telling us what he did!!
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>>87381072
I wouldn't mind Cyclops leading the Brotherhood of RIGHT Mutants desu.
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>>87381085
Don't be silly, they can't tell us because they haven't decided what he did yet. Same with Thor!
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>>87381052
Congratulations, you just won 1 (One) Internets.

Please collect it from the cashier.
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>>87381060
it's pretty obscure, sadly, so I'm glad we dug it up

>>87381049
I wonder how many have been printed
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>>87381085
They're never gonna tell us what he said/did. It's like if Pathos Crow ever revealed what Procedure 110-Mountauk actually entails. It's been built up so much and for so long, there's no way it could live up to expectations.
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>>87381071
Most press releases only named Tommy Lee Edwards, only a few sites had John Paul Leon named.
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>>87379468
They 100% do. That's what loser neckbeards commission them for the vast majority of the time.
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>>87381060
I did get randomly followed by a Gerber fan twitter account by tweeting a couple panels from it.
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>>87381141
what the fuck is that top even
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>>87381158

How many issues of Death of X are left? That's the countdown clock
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>>87381180
Cute. Maybe they'll buy the new one.
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>>87381194
A bare midriff hoodie. With suspenders.
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>>87381194
It looks kinda like they hiked a sweater up over their head.
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>>87381194
>>87381220
If it were a DC book you know it would have been in digital in time for this release, but Marvel's digital division is incompetent
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>>87381194
A cropped hoodie sweater over suspenders. Wow, that's kinda tacky.
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>>87380670
Or, honestly, anyone but Doom.

Make the grand dictator of that reality Crystal or Karnak and play up the Inhumans factor.
Or Doctor Druid, to show what happens in the reality he doesn't get kicked off the Avengers and ends up coopting Homer.
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>>87381259
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>>87380691
Clint went from the dizzying highs of Hawkguy to challenging Solo sales numbers.

Marvel has salted their own fields.

This page reads superduper gay.
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>>87381259
>Marvel Young Animal Pitches: Epoch's Student Life
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>>87381304
Then Carol would just throw that character in prison and call it a lesson learned.
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>>87381343
Pffft, you just need to get the butchwax out of your ears.
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>>87381343
I kinda wonder if Big Bang isn't moving Occupy Avengers because nobody in Ireland knows or cares what Occupy was

I'm kinda interested to see how Occupy sells compared to Hawkeye
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>>87381365
It's funny because it's true.
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>>87381343
Someone was saying today that the underappreciated side of Rebirth is the retailer apology tour that DD and Jim Lee personally went on. Happy retailers with returnability are more able and willing to hand-sell and to order niche books, and that sweet $2.99 for most things doesn't hurt.

And yet it can't just be that because shit's also selling well in digital, which is presumably much easier access for New Audiences who are scared to go to their LCS or don't have one or something; no one bought Nighthawk in digital, either.

>>87381396
that name is a dumpster fire for the book, too
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>>87381343

>tfw Occupy will last 4 issues

sigh
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>>87381396
Everyone in the first world knew what Occupy was anon. You think there wasn't an Occupy Dublin? It was as well known as Kony 2012.
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>>87381418
>that name is a dumpster fire for the book, too
it is an awful fucking name, I have no idea what they were thinking

how long ago was Occupy even relevant
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>>87381432
I dunno, I live in the US and I barely know what it was
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>>87381418
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>>87381462
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>>87381462
Oh so "Mother of the Protector of the Universe" just isn't cosmically significant.

Pfehhh.
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>>87379365
Was Kayla being set up to be the new Starbrand? This B-story seems to drag on but I can't see where it's going.
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>>87381483
Wendell ;____;
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>>87381505
I am not sure.
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Seriously though, OP.
>How about this a operetta about this guy who goes around who shines heinies, it's called Der Keistermeister

I haven't watched all that much of it, admittedly, but man, it's an interesting artifact in comic book history. https://youtu.be/mp-XkXqQNdg
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>>87381548
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>>87381603
WHOOPS

thanks for reading, owls

new comics day only two days away

I'm going to turn off the PC and read before going to bed. I'm tiiiired.
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>>87381626
thanks OP!
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>>87380909
Wendell is enough of a Gruenwald self insert that I'm assuming this issue was written on the plane as he was flying to Wisconsin to visit his own mom in the hospital.
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I had a thought a while back. If one were making their own comic, would it be weird to make pornographic side materials for it?

Like, let's say you have your own creator owned book, but every now and then, you made and released side comics that featured the characters fucking. Has anyone ever done that? And would it be in any way a good idea?
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>>87381656
Yeah, I think a few webcomics have done that.

>>87381626
Thanks again OP.
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>>87381626
Thanks for posting as always, Storyteller.

I think the book has gone off the rails a bit. Probably a good thing there's not many issues left.
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>>87381656
>Has anyone ever done that?
I think the TJ & Amal creator did that? I recall them making a side comic for the kickstarter that was supposed to be sexy. although I don't know how smutty the regular comic got
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Thanks OP!
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>>87381656

that dumbing of age dude/transformers fanboy does that doesn't he
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>>87381684
I miss Capullo a LOT
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>>87381626
>Erishkigal
>Horizon of Holes

Lewd.
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>>87381626
Oh, also, thanks, OP, see you... when you get back to this. Tomorrow?
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>>87381787

Why couldn't Gru grab one of the better artists for his comic?

He routinely got cucked by Starlin and X-Men during this time.
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>>87381194
I've seen those hoodies before but in t-shirt fabric to wear over a tank top

I don't know about those straps though
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>>87381626
For some reason I didn't see this coming

Thanks as always OP
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>>87382994
She's wearing 80s-90s aerobics gear.
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