Mockingbird Storytime

why tho?

>>87375918
This

Where's the part with the rape retcon?

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>>87375788
Now this is HORROR!!!

>>87376021
Issue 8 last issue.

>>87375906
And I'm done with this comic. That was fast.

You know, this series had potential.
The first couple issues were okay.

Cain just completely shit the bed, though.

I liked the slice of life bits but I don't actually care about the main plot and ghostly old people.

no connection to Mockingbird (seeing as she was dead for most of my comics reading history) but I enjoy the art on this.

hope she gets put on something good (alternate on the new Wasp book? some Scarlet Witch issues? the new Jen Hulk series??)

writing is generic so far.

>>87376272
I believe she's confirmed to be making appearances in the Wasp book.

So she's just gonna be jumping around between books nobody reads.

>>87376043
You may not like what is being storytimed, but you still shouldn't post images

>>87376310

>cheesecake is only bad when its a male artist

>>87376043
What a fucking cunt.

>>87376272
>>87376319

Wasn't she also doing appearances in Slott's Spiderman up until the end of the Orion story?

This comic is trying to hard to be quirky.

>>87376339
>>87376387
There are no rules for common courtesy in a storytime of pain. If OP wants to storytime garbage, he should expect the thread posts to be garbage in return.

>>87376447

yea, this page in particular >>87376437 is just...why?

>>87376480
Yes, we know, you're just a cunt.

>>87376508
This was actually a clever twist

>>87376510
You can believe I was the one who posted the image if you want. I don't care. But don't pretend this thread is worth anything other than cringe.

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This is where the comic goes to shit

>>87376531
Not giving a shit.

I liked these first two issues. When does it go off the rails exactly?

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>>87376593
Issue 3 now

>>87376576
>>87376531
You two are the fucking worst, you catty bickering faggots.

>>87376571
Oh, I didn't realize this comic was this comic. It really did shit the bed.

>>87375973
>Getting your urine back from the doctor

Is she one of those degenerates who collects their piss?

>>87376675

Oh god its the "teenage girl with superpowers kills a bunch of people and all of it gets blamed on evil white misogynists regardless"-story.

>>87376619
Eat my big black cock, bitch nigga.

>>87376882
This woman honestly though she was doing groundbreaking working for writing the tampon with almost no context to the story as a whole.

so, uh that kid murdered like four people? Are we gonna get any follow up on that?

>>87376950
Nope, they were woman hating men and obviously deserved to die.

>>87376950
The reporter had the subtile name of Dick Profit.
Do the math.

>>87377015
>>87377026
Is this suppose to be a parody are should we take this serious?

>2 our of 4 issues have a romantic interest fighting in his underwear

>>87377426
The comic would be better without this out of context snarking.

>>87376571
How the fuck does she have a spider-man shirt if she's about ten years older than Peter?

>>87375945
>my stuff
>Bruce Banner
;_;

Well, five issues down and really only issue three has been bad. Seems like lighthearted sexy snark so far, to me.

>>87377543

And she is a kid while Cyclops is a grown man.

Not only is the page bullshit because there certainly were female heroes early in Marvel, but they cant even keep a consistent timeline.

>>87376929
Joelle Jones needs to be on more books.

I bought that one Scarlel Witch issue because of her. She's great.

>>87377677
What the fuck is up with these goddamn corgis?

>>87377055
>your no science terrorist
>Well, that is typically sexist

how, your gender was not even brought up and your not on staff?
in all logical sense it was the proper reaction.
She should have said something like "New Hire " And then kicked his face in

>>87376547
Honestly, why does it go downhill from this point?

>>87377980
Chelsea Cain tells you about Mockingbird's feminist agenda.

>>87376571
>cyclops
>TWO eyes

>>87377284
>or this, or this, or this
no you don't look like a jerk but god damn is that annoying and in not in anyway funny like you think it is

what the fuck happened to the whole amped up on a mutagenic zombie virus thing?

>>87378340
Dropped, like this book was from marvel's release schedule.

>>87378419
Ugh.

>>87378228
So did Cain just insert a bunch of people she knew into the end of this book?

>>87377711
Chelsea Cain wanted to give Mockingbird her own pizza dog, and failed.

>>87377372
>oh my god is that where Sloppy Joes come from?
what was the set up for this joke?
How did it even make sense to use this joke provided the scenario and where they are?

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the end

>>87376293
So, this is their feminist agenda? Femdom?

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>>87378291
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>>87378329
This is the dumbest shit that I have read in a good long while.

>>87376882
Wait.. didn't one guy just died?

>>87378721

Likely four of them.

The chopper pilot, the reporter and two other guys.

So i dont exactly have much sympathy for the girl here.

>>87378721
Four guys died, they were murdered by the little girl with powers but it's okay because they were men and Bobbi is a sociopath in this run.

>>87378853
The cameraman and a random cop who was just doing his job were the other two.

>>87377831
so the ship doesn't have a designated security guard group, doctor, or even marshal?

>>87376043
>posting images in the middle of a storytime

for shame

>>87379290
It's the kind of ship that's loaded with the kind of people that no one would miss if it went down and took everyone aboard with it.

>>87378898

What is really bad is that the girl dont have an "out" so to speak.

She isnt traumatized or shocked or anything. there is no immediate danger. She is pretty calm taking the situation under consideration. Unnaturally calm even for her age and situation.

If she had spent 30 seconds to tell the cops "My power trapped my friends in a bubble and i need to make sure the bubble dont burst" noone would have gotten hurt.

Instead she freaks out at a chopper and then a little while later she deliberately kills three other people.

It a bizarre ending to a story. What happens afterward? I dont need the story ending with the cops gunning her down in the street. But everyone seems to be unaware that she had just killed four people.

People have been more concerned by stepping on gum.

>>87379497
ah yes, how very convenient

>>87376803
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>>87376750
>>87376731
>>87376713
Nice rescue, Barbara, you really handled the situation like a boss. Really deserved that chardonnay huh

>>87376695
>it's totally cool to kill a bunch of innocent bystanders if you're a girl experiencing intense emotions

>>87379497

Its almost an Anti-story.

Its like they just sat down and started coming up with ideas for the plot, then gave up and went out to get plastered.

>>87376508
I''m enjoying this so far but leaving someone tied up isn't funny.

>>87378251
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>>87378291
>Let's effectively make fun of nerds, you know the people that buy our product. Their misogynistic pigs anyway

Each issue just tries to be more cringy than the last, and it seems to find a way

>>87376616

Actually i had forgotten this page. Why is she not dead? Her one interaction with the negotiator was to threaten him with her powers, causing him to fall off the roof.

>>87378400
ghost pirates that are feminists, even knowing the context of the story makes it stupid

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>>87379628
well, I mean the murder mystery cruise idea is... ok? I guess. I mean, it's a classic story. and the ghost possession murder/suicide was an ok twist.

But the whole story doesn't really fit with the sexy spy action of the first few issues. Feels like Chelsea just wrote it while she was on a cruise herself. For a comic selling itself as sexy spy action, there was zero sexy spy action in those last three issues.

and I could've really done without the YES I LIKE WINE AND CORGIS every issue. Pretty fucking basic.

Man, what a frustrating fucking series. I do hope she doesn't give up on comics. Maybe give her a co-writer or something to make sure she doesn't go off the rails.

I won't even comment on muh tampons

>>87378861
Don't be a fucking strawmanning sperg, it was overlayed about how she just got caught up in the life of being a Hero despite being under-qualified and she doesn't really know if she makes the cut.

>>87377475
so this never gets resolved, we just move on to the next plot.
I mean the actual fuck, what was the point of the powers and the whole examination and everything if it leads to absolutely fucking nothing

>>87380041

Yeah. There is not only a lack of sexy spy action, but a lack of basic coherence. They just flail around for a while then she unmasks the villain and for some reason dont actually attempt to battle him herself but sics a posse of nerds at him.

Its nothing fun, or clever or impressive here. Its almost devoid of content.

>>87380041
Its just quirky humor aimed at women. Its not supposed to be actiony or dramatic. If the fact that in over half of the issues hawkeye or hunter war naked for half their screentime didn't give it away.The feminist plugs were a bit much but if you don't think it seriously I think its tolerable.

>>87380188
Its going back and forth. It showed the setup with the clinic visits, then it shows the inbetween stories. The cruise ship happened just prior to her showing up with the Corgi. The first issue provided a broad timeline, and you use her costume to establish when events are set. I suspect the next issue would be the climax to the clinic stuff.

Now that I've read the entire series(I took it off my pull list after issue 3). It was okay. Issues 3 and 8 were ill advised. I guess this is what happens when editors don't do their jobs.

>>87380318
>Its going back and forth. It showed the setup with the clinic visits, then it shows the inbetween stories. The cruise ship happened just prior to her showing up with the Corgi. The first issue provided a broad timeline, and you use her costume to establish when events are set. I suspect the next issue would be the climax to the clinic stuff.
The writer would have been advised their story was going to get cancelled before hand and she should have used that time to wrap things up in the final issue.

>>87380359
>Now that I've read the entire series(I took it off my pull list after issue 3). It was okay. Issues 3 and 8 were ill advised. I guess this is what happens when editors don't do their jobs.
I read up to issue 3 and left it behind after that. After reading it all today I can confidently say the series was bad. It was not straight up terrible but the book was rightfully cancelled in my opinion

>>87376131
*freeze frame*

Yep, that's me. You're probably wondering how I got myself into this situation. Let me back up.

>>87376585
Did the writer just take a line from a physics book and put a question mark at the end?!

>>87380448
>The writer would have been advised their story was going to get cancelled before hand and she should have used that time to wrap things up in the final issue.

Gotta disagree. The main plot was stupid bullshit about psychic powers and a virus. The entire point of it was quirky fan service. The sidestories were the real meat. I get the feeling the author didn't even want to write about a superhero; she wanted to write about shipping.

Look at this: >>87378509. This is the final page. This is what the author thought was important.

>>87380318
The cruise doesn't really fit in. Here's her visits:
>>87375914 - first one, doesn't fit with any issue
>>87376039 - issue two, hellfire club
>>87376114 - issue three, murder child. corgi is from end of issue two, with the queen. I guess it just follows her around now.
>>87375889 issue four, underwater base. also the framing story for issue one.

fucking garbage.

>>87378509

Lmao Clint such a fucking loser

Love the art, but what's up with the obnoxious in your face agenda stuff

>>87378466
>corgi so randum xd!
Congrats op, you got me terrified, of what will happen to western comics in the coming years

>>87380584
You're right. Guess the author stopped giving a fuck after it was cancelled.

Even CBR, who published an article suggesting that comics fandom is "dead" in the wake of the Chelsea Cain controversy, put out a write-up earlier today about how the "Mockingbird" #8 retcon makes little sense when put up against the overall context of the original Englehart story.

>>87380853
I guess it was Cain's attempt to "leave her mark" on the story. All it did was make Bobbi look bad and insure she would not be used for anything for a while. I would not surprise to see Marvel put the character on ice.

i'm glad this comic is finished, it really deserves to burn

>>87380919
I'd assume her primary thought was to remove the rapey part of her history. Was there any actual implication of rape, or was it the kind of mind control where they save sex for marriage?

>>87380948
>i'm glad this comic is finished
This

This was so good for two issues

Then I dropped it like a nasty ass brick after issue 3

>>87381129

But she still killed the dude.

It is understandable if she killed her rapist if not strictly legal.

Its a lot different if she murdered a annoying stalker. Particularly if he was as pathetic as shown it this issue.

>>87381599
That's what I mean, or at least what I meant to mean.
Cain probably wanted to remove Mockingbird's rape, but didn't give it any other thought outside of the basic change.

>>87375788
Nice comic dump OP. Question, how much money did you lose on that botched comic of yours? None, a fucking ton, in the middle? Just for the indie comic industry edification please.

>>87381712
I think it's that she focused so narrowly on rewriting the story so Bobbi was making a decision as opposed to being acted upon (by being drugged) that the "Does this imply?" readings took her a little bit by surprise. Her twitter explanations of POV emphasized it being a complex story, but felt kind of half-assed.

>>87382418
That's probably what it was.
Her primary goal was to remove the rape from Bobbi's backstory, but didn't actually put any other effort into explaining how the original story was affected.

>>87376882
>C-list
>Is at least E-list

>>87377083
I kinda like this sociopath Bobbi. I don't know it was intentional or not.

>>87377781
Yeah I could defend everything up until this point. Its starting to get stupid.

>>87377146
In the last panel looks like Clint is checking his ass.

>>87375930
>sarcasm chart
Fuck you, I get enough bullshit from the movies making everyone a snarky piece of shit.

>>87378214
She isn't a nerd, whoever kept this writer off twitter better figure out how to continue keeping her off it.

>It IS comics

Dumb cunt.

>>87377725
I honestly have a good amount of chuckles reading this book. Think the only ofender of this run is the third issue so far.

>>87381542
I like Corgi's, Corgi's should end up with an actual protagonist people care about, not this feminist e-list whore

>>87376571
> forgetting Sue Storm
> forgetting Janet van Dyne
> forgetting Jean Grey
> forgetting Wanda Maximoff
Need I go on?

I bet all 8 of Mockingbird's readers were upset that it was canceled

>>87378140
what does this have to do with Civil War II

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>>87379919
They are all people she knows IRL (look their names up) all of whom she went on a cruise with in San Diego at some point so she decided to incorporate and tweak that into her comic.

Honestly it makes this story worsse because it makes this whole thing even lazier and Mockingbird into an obvious self insert for Cain.

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>>87377711
Because corgis are cute?

Mockingbird 001 (2016) (6 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www104.zippyshare.com/v/zMHinQrV/file.html

Mockingbird 002 (2016) (4 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www35.zippyshare.com/v/p15JaEd8/file.html

Mockingbird 003 (2016) (2 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www58.zippyshare.com/v/X4Zu21IO/file.html

Mockingbird 004 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/ojzU0HpO/file.html

Mockingbird 005 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www91.zippyshare.com/v/Jz3A43vH/file.html

Mockingbird 006 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/erCjV0FU/file.html

Mockingbird 007 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www68.zippyshare.com/v/JNL604aI/file.html

Mockingbird 008 (2016) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www27.zippyshare.com/v/0QhNHPiR/file.html


Mockingbird - S.H.I.E.L.D. 50th Anniversary (2015) (3 covers) (digital) (Minutemen-Faessla)
http://www99.zippyshare.com/v/LbuR82aq/file.html

>>87387840
Has that kind of thing ever been done well anyway?
I don't mean a character loosely inspired by people you know or putting a real-life celebrity/politician/serial killer/etc in a story but what she actually did.

Imagine if some pharma company came up with anti-depressant pills that were wine flavored.

In that timeline, none of these quirk fem books that even your mother couldn't give a fuck about wouldn't exist.

>>87378494
The whole composition of that crowd image would seem to lend credit to that theory.
Thor guy in particular looks traced, so... probably.

>>87379497
I'm feeling reminded of that ark space ship in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe carrying all the nutters and people with superfluous jobs.

>>87378533
comparing cain's mockingbird to fraction's hawkeye is not just wrong, but it shows how desperate she was. Keep in mind that fraction managed better female characterisation without resorting to cheap shots and retcons

Good god this was terrible. But apparently a meninist conspiracy to kill good feminist comics did this in rather than bad sales because it had an uptick after being cancelled??

>>87388438
Thank you.

>>87380853
>Even CBR, who published an article suggesting that comics fandom is "dead" in the wake of the Chelsea Cain controversy

Literally Gamergate again. These press fucks need to be fucking beheaded.

>>87388588
Sure. If the shit you're doing and the people you're doing it with are fucking interesting to begin with.

Autobiographical things that are good do this.

In this case, it results in a serious clash. There's the nerd shit, the super spy shit, and there's the ghost cowboy shit, and it doesn't flow at all together.

I actually liked 4, maybe 5 of these.

>>87380810
Hopefully nothing to do with this series since it failed spectacularly and the writer might not return to comics afterward.

>>87377781

And they had a female locker room.

>>87383905
If that Human Torch is Jim Hammond, which would make sense since he stands right next to Sub-Mariner and Captain America, then we could include the many female heroes from his era such as Miss America, Namora, Sun Girl, Black Widow, Silver Scorpion, Lorna and Jann of the Jungle, Golden Girl, Blonde Phantom and even Venus or better yet Miss Fury if she's considered canon.

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>>87383905
>X-Men
>Heroes

>>87390024
Well, she did idolize Cyclops.

>>87389942
if only that were true.

this was a psychotic fever dream right?

She is insane and resting under review?

>>87376415

aren't those suits rubber?

>>87376667
> favorite musical: Hamilton

fuck you

>>87377338
>this is going to be SO disgusting. I can't even.
It really bothers me how Bobbi's personality fluctuates between badass spy, literal sociopath and "quirky" teenage girl.

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>>87377361
Man the author likes Hamilton.

>>87376710
she is being given a new, empty cup in which to pee - duh

>>87377070
Oh, Marvel. Still can't draw nipples ...

>>87378509
So the last page shows her having 2 love interests at the same time and basically doing exactly what feminism is supposed to be against?

Also where is the moment where she cheat on someone then kill the guy saying he raped her? I don't want to read everything, it's trash

>>87377372
Actually, they're just used for medical students to dissect and make jokes about. There's people thinking they're being noble, trying to help, and their remains go to students who could read about it in a book.

>>87377372
Actually, they're just used for medical students to dissect and make jokes about. There's people thinking they're being noble, trying to help, and their remains go to students who could read about it in a book.

>>87390671
Also, penile cosmetic surgeries.

>>87380572
>Gotta disagree. The main plot was stupid bullshit about psychic powers and a virus. The entire point of it was quirky fan service. The sidestories were the real meat. I get the feeling the author didn't even want to write about a superhero; she wanted to write about shipping.
So it's ok to leave a headquarters/medical center of the Marvel Universe with super power zombies?
I mean granted I will agree that the writer had different ideas of what was important to the story, but you create a possible world level event, and just leave it there. She could have written it off as a drug trip and it would have worked just as well

>>87377560
> it doesn't matted what powers you have

uh, yeah it does. Gee, if only there was a Marvel character who famously used their powers to fix a dice roll...nah, probably didn't happen.

I'm a fan of the art is this book. It's a shame the artist was wasted on utter tripe.

>>87390572
It's this bit in the second panel, where she admits that Phantom Rider never raped her, she chose to fuck him and CLint's just deluding himself about the whole affair.
She did throw PR off a cliff, though.

>>87375845
I like the Exstemis pens.
>>87376277
That signature could get him into legal trouble, in the UK you can get charged with Adding and Abetting assault upon yourself.
>>87376547
I really don't know what this issue was meant to add to the run, it seems a bit out of place given that the other comics in some way tie in to the virus plot.
>>87377475
This needed resolving/explaining.
>>87378125
I did like this.
>>87378466
Benevolent Mercorgis are now cannon, good to know.
>>87378509
Bobbi demands a foot rub and it's Hunter who jumps in first, Clint is the less beta of the two.
>>87379513
The helicopter was justified, she thought it was a danger to her friends, the rest was murder.

>>87378340
it evolved - and died. iirc. Like we will, some day