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Champions #2

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Ladies and gentlemen. It's time to FACE THE FACTS. They sold you the seat, but you'll only be needing the edge because Scanbro is here. Yes, that Scanbro. When Scanbro goes shopping the items check him out. Scanbro once looked at Medusa, and she turned to stone. And when Scanbro takes a day off, it stays off. But Scanbro hasn't taken a day off today, he's here, and he's near the scanner so I'll stop talking and let the master do his thing. Scanbro!
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>>87370964
It's a Hallowern Miracle!!!!!!
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>>87370964
Thank you, Scanbro
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>>87371006
>Viv's hand
Viv is cute!
C U T E
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Praise Scanbro.
It's a Halloween miracle.
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We don't deserve you Scanbro. Why are you so good to us?
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Nova and Tykeclops kiss and make up.

Happy reading.
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Stay Woke!!!!
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This is an ilegal storytime guys, you know that right ?
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this book is bad
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>>87371168
>Mark Waid
>Humberto Ramos
Marvel didn't want it to succeed.

They can't be lacking self-awareness this badly, r-right?
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>>87371146
Scanbro does not obey laws. He is the law.
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>>87371197
Judge anon will like to have a word with you
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>>87371146
All storytimes are quasi-legal at best. Now STFU narc.
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>>87371192
Why is Waid writing Chulk like a jock? He's a showoff and a bit smug but he's not an ass.
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>>87371095
>>87371147
>let's randomly go into the woods to bond and talk about our powers!
Okay, I guess? You probably should try to get a base of operations first. Like a T tower or something.
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>>87371146

Fuck off CNN
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>>87371207
What is a judge to a god?
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>>87371192
Eh, Cho isnt a jock.
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>>87371196
I can guarantee you they meant for this to be a flagship slam dunk.
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>>87371146
>Legal storytimes
Kek
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>>87370964
CUTE
U
T
E

>Cute team is best team
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I never finished Vision, but I don't remember Viv being so robotic. Did that happen at the end or somehing?
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Scanbro spoil Death of X #3 and Avengers #1 for me, I will be eternally grateful
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>>87371294
she forgot to add, please don't destroy a continental plate when you land
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>>87371294
>8th
>they're really adding Moon Girl now
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>>87371325
I didn't notice anything worth spoiling when I quickly flipped through them. Not saying there isn't anything noteworthy - I just didn't notice.
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>>87371095
>Gratuitos Kanye reference
Get it? He's black.

Also, why does Chulk gets drawn with chaps around his mouth that makes him look like a mummy?
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>>87371192
Why is Cho acting like a douche Chad?
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>>87371348
quality
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>>87371348
MARVEL SEAL OF QUALITY
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>>87371294
With Reed and Tony dead, that makes Amadeus the fift or the fourth smartest person, Doom, BP and Beast are still alive
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>>87371348
The bendis effect
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>>87371224
Because Waid decided that's his character.

Can't wait until someone will be revealed to be a lefty, or someone will "have no patience to read books".
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>>87371348

what exactly is spider-kid shielding his eyes from? the oh-so-blinding glare of *moonlight*?
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>>87371344
You will fucking like her dammit! You will fucking like her and the rest of the Inhumans!
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>>87371057
Why isn't Cyclops on that thing?
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>>87371146
HI new guy.
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>>87371396
>Spider Kid
You mean Kid Arachnid.
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>>87371403
Subtle password
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>>87371415
Because SCOTT SUMMERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE*

* Storm and Beast
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>>87371403
how do you do fellow kids
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Why not four Captain Americas. Five Captain Americas! MORE IS MORE!

>nobody gets my wrestling references
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>>87371403
>cell phones

No those tweens can relate!
Is nova playing angry birds?
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>>87371403
>evenanandroidcancry
Lel
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>>87370964
Why this team? They are...runaways? I dont get it
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>>87371348
3.99 for the issue, and you better BELIEVE that you get a reprinted panel gag.
That steadfast Marvel quality.
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>>87371403
OH THOSE TEENAGERS AND THEIR WI-FI AND THEIR CELLPHONES, AMIRITE? #WOKE
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>>87371448
Tyke the creeper
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>>87371146
Holy fuck, you #woke me up.
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>>87371448
this shit is awful
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>>87370964
FUCK YEAH SCANBRO
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>>87371475
Inside ?
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>>87371403
>I'm a computer, I'm a computery guy. Count to a 50 in the blink of my eye
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>>87371448
So random merry adventures in other worlds punching bad guys...
Why did they need to form their own team again?
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>>87371146
Selling Champions for 3.99 is illegal.
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>>87371264
Number of variants certainly confirms it.
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>>87371403
>evenanandro1dcancry

Didn't sh end Vision with a positive outlook on life despite the shit it handed her?
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>>87371348
Again? The first issue was bad enought but AGAIN!
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>>87371448

The Cyclops watches patiently from the cover of the forest, waiting to pounce on his prey.
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>>87371448
>Kids like to make fun of movie tropes r-right

What next, is Miles going to say he won't be the first to die?
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>>87371420
>>87371396
You mean Donald Glover aka Childish Gambino the Brown Recluse
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>>87371488
>Kamala's face on the last panel
>Nova so fucking retarded cannot even say Einstein as a throwaway answer
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@87371483
Fuck off retard
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>>87371348
I admit that the context allow the use of beat panels, but two would have been enough, four is just lazy
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>>87371448

>You should be A Captain America

Modern Marvel in a nutshell
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>>87371146
THIS IS ILLEGAL YOU KNOW!
MY CAKES WILL BURN!
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>>87371448
WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH KAMALA? Why is she bossing people around and giving moralizing speeches? Why is she bringing feminism into it for no reason? WHY IS THIS ALLOWED?
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>>87371284
She acknowledged that she wasn't "normal" and was going to stop trying to be so

Waid seems to have interpreted that as "she's just a robot, lol"
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>>87371540
Cucked by tyke, stryke 1
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>>87371448
YOU GET TO BE CAPTAIN AMERICA! YOU GET TO BE CAPTAIN AMERICA! YOU ALL GET TO BE CAPTAIN AMERICA!
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>>87371448
>punching down
loving every laugh
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>>87371448
This is just terrible. The writing and dialogue make me want to vomit.
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>>87371242
C tower. Champions, Unite! CUnt, for short.
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>>87371547

It's funny. And it makes her stand out, even if it does so in exactly the way she doesn't want to by her own admission.
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TRIGGERED
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>>87371589

Are you fucking kidding me, Waid.........................................................
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>>87371589
Like, really?
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>>87371448
IS SHE GOING TO DO A FUCKING SPEECH EVERY FUCKING ISSUE? FUCK I HATE THIS.
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>>87371589
>microaggression
QUALITY
god this is such shit
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>>87371589
Oh fuck off, I'm done.
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>>87371589
oh my fucking god
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>>87371540
>Sam: Shit I should have asked if she was a virgin.
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>>87371192
Viv will be surrogate for autistic member of the team a la X-23, Cassandra Cain or Raven, right? God forbid some robots go online with personality chips installed.
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>>87371403

>What's your password?
>EVENANANDRO1DCANCRY
Fuck. Waid made me laugh.
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>>87371589

And this right here is why no-one's brain should be plugged into tumblr 24/7.
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>>87371589
>microagresion
Hello there fellow students from the university of Toronto
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>>87371580
>funny
To each their own, I guess. It's also completely alien to her established character, so there's that...
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>>87371589
He, Scanbro, this is absolutely misdirected, nothing personal, you are a great guy.

But fuck you. You made it possible for me to read this.
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Why does Waid not ask for help and get a young cowriter to help with the dialogue? He has been bad with teens for over 10 years now.
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>>87371589
3.99 and you get TWO reprinted panel pages. Obviously, Marvel is subtly revisiting the comment of two Captain Americas and drawing a parallel.

... No actually it's just shitty laziness.
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>>87371540

Cock-blocked by Kamala.
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>>87371647
You would've ended up reading it sooner or later due to someone starting a thread with that page.
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>a microagression?
well, if they're going to make kamala talk shit at least they'll have viv call her out on it.
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SUDDENLY LIGHT LIGHTING!!!


SCANBRO
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>>87371540
C O N F I R M E D
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>>87371658
>No Sam, you can't get with best girl Viv, you have to sit there and watch me make out with Miles.
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>>87371589
> Vision end with Viv accepting shes different and her robotic nature.
>Champions Viv : YOUR SAYING IM NOT NORMAL REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fuck Waid.
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hey so does anyone die in civil war?
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>>87371645

Aw hell I don't even read Ms. Marvel. You're probably right, I'm honestly more amused that, in attempting to write Kamala eschewing the "spoilsport" role, Waid unfortunately seems to be enforcing it.
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>>87371589
Viv feeling salty about not getting that kiss.
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>>87371688
No. Only Marvel's sales.
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>>87371589
Really?
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>>87371448
This dialogue is so bad. I'm never gonna complain about Wilson's writing again
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>>87371709
OPTIC BLAST
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>>87371688
I hope so...thisbis bad
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>>87371146
an 'illegal' storytime of All New All Different Ghost Rider compelled me to purchase the full run in paper. A preview of the story / art drove the purchase.

It's up to the writer / editor / artist of this comic to make me do the same. They're striking out so far.
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>>87371709
what is that face?
someone screencap
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i was willing to give it a pass on the first one with "well maybe they just needed some stupid shit to get the team together" but fuck this garbage. i like most of this team separately why is marvel doing this trash >>87371589
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>>87371589
I don't buy comics, but I've read comics that I would one day like to buy to support the people that made them.

This page makes me want to steal physical copies of this comic and and burn them.
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>>87371709
That is one thick optic blast if I ever saw one.
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>>87371589
TRIIIIIIIGGGGERRRREEED!!!!
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Cho reminds me of 90s Superboy right now.
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>>87371709
>Chulk breaking up microagression talk

Well, at least he did something okay.
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>>87371540
>best ship will actually be canon

I guess this book isn't all bad
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>>87371688
If anyone does, it'll be Viv.
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>>87371736
That works too.
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>>87371589
It's a funny joke. Laugh now.
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IS THIS WHOLE ENTIRE ISSUE JUST BULLSHIT ABOUT THEIR BACKGROUNDS?!!!
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>>87371647
I only scan the best comics. The best. Nobody has scanned comics like I have.
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>>87371770

+ one Cykes
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>>87371770
It's just missing the Chinese food.
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>>87371770
No, it's just teenagers being teens!

According to 50 years old comic book writer way past his prime.
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>>87371709
>The only thing that could possibly save the embarrassing last page would be Viv going "I'm just joking"
>That doesn't happen so I'm obligated to assume that was going to be a whole thing
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>>87371757
agreed. Viv is op. Just like her dad. So she's first on the chopping block.
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give me 1 reason why they didn't get a young writer to write this
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Man, this book is going to be dead within 10 issues. Its sales will nosedive at #3 after this shit.
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>>87371782
Nova gonna get cucked by youngclops
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>>87371782
Bt why this ne instead of, say, renew your vows?
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>>87371810
There are no young writers at Marvel
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>>87371770
Well they were too busy fighting a sex trafficking clown and checking their twitter to talk about themselves in the first issue.
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>>87371589
Viv deserves better than this, but King can't save her anymore
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>>87371392
>Can't wait until someone will be revealed to be a lefty
Waid loves left-handed characters? That's kinda specific nitpick on his side.
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>>87370964
Is Kamila slowly turning into the black woman from Ghost Busters? That cover art is shit.
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>>87371688
Allegedly Iron Man because of the spoilers in Infamous Iron Man?

But by this point I don't think anyone cares.
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>>87371813
Nah, based on the characters I say it settles in around 30k.
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>>87371782
Why are his eyebeams acting like lightning in panel 3.
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>>87371782
Is this implying Nova doesn't know who Cyclops is? I mean, he can not know about Kidclops running around, but surely he can't be ignorant of infamous mutant terrorist Cyclops, right?
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>>87371833
jock cho
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>>87371833
Why does Chulk look like he's 80+ years old?
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>>87371833
I chuckled.
Comic isn't even that bad. Got some decent parts, but overall I feel like nothing is happening
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The lack of plot would at least be forgivable if the interactions were enjoyable. This is just really odd. No one is acting in character.
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I hate how Waid writes Cho
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>>87371815
Because it isn't coming out this week.
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Good GOD this is boring.
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>>87371876
>Bullies
Oh c'mon
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>>87371874
this
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>>87371810
Young writers are shit.
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So where is the kiss?
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>>87371851
Just earlier in the issue Waid make him a retard who can't even name Einstein.
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>>87371876
>I'm not a bad guy
Get outta here, Roman Reigns.
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Left side of a double page spread, I can't be bothered to put it together.
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>>87371874
No one is written well here, but that's probably the biggest problem.

>>87371904
BleedingCool lied again and meant >>87371540 or it's on one of the last pages
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>>87371851
Didn't he piledrive Rightclops when he was Dark Phoenix?
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>>87371834
>Daredevil always seen writing with his right hand
>He's lefty, lol
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>>87371918
>it's a bendis approved people talking spread
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>>87371909
Nova being a retard isn't new
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>>87371918
Teenage hitler
wew lads
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>>87371918
>Teenage Hitler
Lmao
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>>87371918
>Adult Cyclops is Hitler

Fuck this and fuck whoever keeps pushing it
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>>87371450
Is Angry Birds still megagigaultra popular like it used to be couple of years ago? I think I've seen some new version, fwiw. I'll get to play versions with Transformers and Star Wars sooner or later.
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>>87371918

>Cyclops is now synonymous with Hitler

I want to get off Marvel's wild ride now.
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Right side.

>>87371904
Wait for the storytime to be over.
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>>87371918
>Teenage Hitler
There it is.
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>>87371918
God, I hate how everyone acts like Cyclops was some horrible monster.
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>>87371918
>Teenage Hitler
What the actual fuck?
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>>87371833
>Kamala's a superhero fantard just like you (TM)
>"You're cyclops, right?"
>"?"
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>>87371918
>Teenage hitler
FUCK OFF
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>>87371490
Skeleton in bottom right confirms.
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Viv and Tyke calling it
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>>87371968
doesnt this spoiler shit?
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>>87371688

Maybe Bendis.
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>>87371992
No?
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>>87371494
Because adults don't GET them, dad!
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>>87371918
>Teen Hitler

I get Cyclops provoked a war immediately after discovering Terrigen killed mutants, but he's acting to prevent genocide. Has he put Inhumans in death camps or something?
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>>87371990
>Sam cucked by Tyke

it's not fair
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>>87371918
>>87371968
In context, it makes sense that they wouldn't know that much about Cyclops because of their age except Chulk. But why do I get the feeling this shit is going to be pulled with adult heroes who have worked with Cyclops for years?
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Oh its Viv and Chad Chulk
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>>87372016
Yuck, I can see where this is going.

So obivous, fuck you Waid.
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>>87372016
viv and chulk?
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>>87372016
IT'S GONNA BE VIV AND CHULK

DAMMIT
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>>87370964
Nice! Based Scanbro!
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>>87372016

inb4
CHO KISSING VIV! SAM IS KEKED AGAIN!
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>>87371833
Having someone call Scott "Slim" is a good way to get me on your side waid
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>Viv/Chulk

D R O P P E D
R
O
P
P
E
D
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>>87371998
If only.
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DON'T DATE ROBOTS!
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>>87371947
>>87371954
>>87371959
>>87371965
>>87371979
>>87371984

Brevoort actually said it in an interview at http://www.ew.com/article/2016/07/05/marvel-champions:

"Cyclops shows up and goes, “Boy I love what you’re putting down, I’d like to be a part of it.” It’s kind of like Kid Hitler showing up at the door. The older Cyclops has done some stuff."

This makes me wonder who at Marvel thinks it's a good idea to compare Cyclops to Hitler.
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NOOOO

SOMEONE POST THE SAM SUFFERING GIF

IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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>>87372075
Rape
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>>87372075
HULKED
U
L
K
E
D
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>>87372075
Well that came out of nowhere
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>>87372075
That doesn't even make any fucking sense
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>>87372075
literally cucked
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>>87372075
dele this

>>87372082
got you senpai
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>>87372075
Jesus this just looks creepy as fuck, Atleast change him back to human or something.
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>>87372075
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>>87371192
Don't bully Sam.
Also, stop writing Amadeus like a complete chode. He's hormonal and short-sighted in Hulkmode, not a complete douche.
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>>87372075
This isn't what I wanted. This isn't what I wanted at all
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>>87372075
WHERE
THE FUCK
IS
DELPHYNE
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>>87372075
He looks like he's eating her.
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>>87372075

>CHULKED
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>>87372075
KEKING!
KEKING!
TIME TO KEK SAM NOVA!
HE WILL NEVER GET TO BE LAID!
WOO HOO HOO HOO HOO
HEY!
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>>87372090
>>87372088
Impulsive guy hooks up with girl that's down for anything.
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>Tweet us at #MarvelChampions

How do you do, fellow kids?
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>>87372075
Why didn't Sam list "forever suffering" as part of his superpowers?
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>>87372075
The only explanation is that "Deliberately anger you readers for profit" bullshit Brevoort keeps pushing.

Everything in this issue seems tailor made to piss people off.
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I think I can safely say this is the worst writing and characterization for Amadeus I've ever seen.
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>>87372090
>>87372088

Viv got curious about kissing and wanted to experiment.

She was going to kiss Sam, but Kamala cock-blocked them. Since Waid's writing Cho as a chad he took the opportunity and kissed her far from the others.
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>>87371918
>ADULT Cyclops who turned INTO a villain is DEAD

Well there's your Death of X spoilers
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>>87372117
i didnt read vision, but wouldnt he have raised her better?
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>>87372099
that's a 19-years old or something and a One Year Old girl! AMBER ALERT!
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>>87372075
THIS WAS AN ENTIRE ISSUE OF NOTHING HAPPENING AND THIS STILL FEELS LIKE IT WAS UNDERDEVELOPED!
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>>87372075
Why?!!! Why couldn't he have turned into his human form?!!! This looks so weird! Viv's whole jaw could fit inside Cho's.
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>>87372075
Holy shit

This serves no purpose but to create drama within the team. And everyone is sick of fucking hero vs hero shit, wether fighting or arguing.
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>>87372124
Lmao Marvel trying to be hip is hilarious to watch
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>>87372075
AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>87371918

jesus christ, isn't everyone here a protege of a hero that has gone bad at least once in their history?

Teen Hulk complaining about Teen Cyclops when the Hulk has been a villain *more often* than a hero??
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>>87371862
I agree. Overall it feels like it's trying to recapture the magic of Young Justice and not really getting it.
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>>87372151
genius with experience+inexperienced naive robot
LITERALLY RAPE
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>>87372099

Apparently Viv have Size related expectations.
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>>87372078

I mean, if you want the character who seems fated to become a monster yet strives to do good in spite of it, Evan's right there on the same team as Cyclops. Come on, Waid, this isn't rocket science!
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>>87371147
>Invisibility is compromised by BEAN FARTS
xD
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>>87372016
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>>87372016
Miles looks unusually distressed here.

>Heterosexual kissing! My one weakness!
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Champions #1 was mediocre.
Champions #2 is officially the worst thing to come out of Marvel Nower so far.
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>>87372143
Waid is ignoring all the previous characterizations.
Thank God, King doesn't have to see what they are doing to his character
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>>87372075
Remember when Cho was in a loving and healthy relationship with a cute Gorgon?

Waid doesn't
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>>87372141
We've known Rightclops did something very bad and then died for a longass time now, just not the specifics.
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>>87372075
I legit want to know what King thinks of this.
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>>87371403
>>87371448
Enlighten me, I'm stupid. They go online with phones, Kamala says I'VE READ ABOUT EXERCISES, they say "in a minute, yo" and she goes ballistic?
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>>87372143
No?
Plus, the first issue established that Cho and Viv have some history playing Battleborn together, for all we know he could've been planning on hooking up with her from the start.
I mean it's not like she can get pregnant without magic.
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>>87372124
any big spoilers in other books this week?
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>>87372217
Waid is a bad writer.
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>>87371589
Okay he's definitely trolling at this point
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>>87372075
will people lose their shit over this like they did over falcon fucking that girl from dimension Z
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>>87372177
Well to be fair Amadeus likes to whitewash Banner's past aggressions and claim that he used some Hulk super math to avoid hurting innocents.
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>>87372103
I think this is one of the worst marvel comics I've read in the past decade. And I've read some really BAD issues.

Christ. I think I'm going to take a break and re read some Superior Foes & Ant Man issues. And some Usagi. You know, shit that was fun.
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>>87372177
Based Dick Rider was always pure, but I get your point.
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I forgot to link this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVikZ8Oe_XA
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>>87372214
He's probably thinking "Who cares? I'm writing fucking Batman now"
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>>87372241
They should, but Marvel doesn't seem to care about legitimate concerns. People are mad about SpiderGwen and Miles too but they're just laughing at it assuming that the maturity gap doesn't matter and the only complaints are from racists.
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This is bringing up some painful memories, /co/. Some childish painful memories that i thought i had all but forgotten.

I'm remembering how girls were easy as fuck when i was young. How my first girlfriend slept with some chad. How i blackened my heart and started to bed chicks left and right while dying a bit every time i did this shit, how love didn't seemed to mean shit back then.

Why are young people so dumb and impulsive?
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>>87371918
So guys, how ya think Adult-Clops gets killed?
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Waid is literally making me hate superheroes

Will someone just take one for the team and assassinate him at a con please?
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>>87372272
you're supposed to fool around when you're that young tbqh, it's not healthy to commit when you don't know shit about yourself yet as a person
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>>87372272
Hormones
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>>87371448
Who is this and what did she do to Kamala?
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>>87372278
He does the right thing but he ends up getting blindsided and breaking his neck on a rock,
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>>87372267
>King writes a story where Vision creates something, neglects it, and bad things happen because of it
>In it, King creates Viv, neglects her, and Mark Waid's Champions happens because of it
Pottery.
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>>87372299
you could just read good books instead m8
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>>87371833
>Slim
I thought that's Logan's nickname for Scott?
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>>87372310
is this injustice
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>>87372223
are you implying that men who play videogames with women also want to hook up with them?
consider my mind blown, anon
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>>87372177
Kamala - Raging Alcoholic mentor that shot a dog
Viv - Father was created to kill the Avengers and beat them down recently, granddaughter of Ultron
Miles - Mentor can be a dick sometimes and accidentally sets back a villains that are actually getting better
Cho - Nothing wrong with Herc other than him sleeping around a lot.
Nova - Mentored by the GotG? Pretty sure Bendis turned RR into a little bitch out of spite.
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>>87372278
People are speculating he died to the Terrigen Mist and the Adult-Clops we see for most of Death of X is merely puppet-ed by Emma. It's just a rumor (for now at least) though.
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>>87372278
Showdown with Black Bolt, both men willing to do whatever it takes for the Survival of their people.

Who am I kidding, its going to be >>87372310
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>>87372333
On the early days of X-Men he was referred to more as "Slim" than anything else, but that fell out of use except for Logan using it mockingly.

Waid is probably really proud of this "callback"
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>>87372075
I will say, it's pretty impressive how Waid mad me leap from being ambivalent about Cho to despising him in a single issue.
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>>87372333
pretty sure it was first used in a silver age issue
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>>87372245
>Superior Foes & Ant Man issues
>And some Usagi
Excellent taste, my man.
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>>87371348
BENDIIIIII- I mean... WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIDDDDDDDDDD
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>>87372357
black bolt whos been off doing whatever? (I dont remember)
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>>87371399
KYS shithuman faggot
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>>87371196
I agree, hell half the Kamala fans like her because CUTE. With ramos drawing, no one is ever cute.
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>>87372367
Don't let this ruin him for you. Everything else he's been in has been great.
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>>87372075
WOKE
O
K
E
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>>87371403
May I note that Viv hairstyle is superior to her other one?
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I actually dig the comic lol
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>>87372367
I kinda disliked it because he looks so weird and creepy, especially hanging around kids way younger than him.

Who would've thought I was completely justified?
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>>87372406
yeah it's the only good part of the book
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>>87372418
When did Waid start browsing here?
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>>87372377
He's running a bar IIRC, but he was the one to unleash the terrigan mists which started the whole Mutants V Inhumans plot.
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RATE THE ISSUE
http://www.strawpoll.me/11546275
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11546275
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>>87372418
That's not only welcomed, it's allowed.

YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
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>>87372418
#staywoke, Marvel internet. I know this is about as hard for you as it is for us, but at least you're getting paid, right?
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>>87372418
WAID FUCK OFF
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>>87371238
>telekenisis
what?
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>>87372303
>>87372305

Yeah. I blame my parents that made me live a sheltered life filled with Disney movies about princes and princesses. I grew up believing in love and romance, but then highschool happened and i learned i had to become a villain.
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>>87371540
>Kids getting offended about being asked about first kiss

Is this the 1800s?
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>>87372045
Miles even worked with Kidclops in that dumb crossover.
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the only justification I can see with cho and viv is the fact that they have actually known each other longer so maybe they had something but never took the time to develop, but I don't get why cho is being such a dick in this. I could read his solo and then this and it's like he's a different dude
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>>87372075
Tom King died for this
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>>87372472
IT'S A MICROAGGRESSION REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>87371448
lmao women
>>
For real though, Cho has adult love interests why do this to him?

>>87372471
I don't think that's the fault of Disney movies tbqh. I grew up on them too and by the time I was a teenager I still got that those hs relationships probably shouldn't be treated like adult ones.
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>>87372124
>tentaclefury
Back in the day, people were subtle about their fetishes.
>>
This is a fairly standard "new group tells the readers about their powers" issue.

Except:
1. There is nothing good about it. It is flat, soulless and uninspiring.
2. Cho Hulk comes off as a total asshole. Realistically he would wake up the next morning and find that the rest had left his ass in the forest.
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>>87372075
Well. Thanks for stopping me from buying this, Scanbro.
You're a cool dude.
>>
Are you gonna storytime another comic, scanbro?
Pretty Please?
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>>87371448
Was Waid's dialogue always this bad? I never noticed particularly word-y shit like this in his issues of 52
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>>87372477
Next issue Viv will say she became self conscious because of Sam's question and asked Chulk to kiss her so she can have that experience, no feelings involved.

Because she's a robot, you see.
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>>87372239
But le Wally and muh Speed Force FEATS.
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>>87371589
>Viv deals with her family by deciding what people think of her doesn't matter.
>DID YOU MEAN TO TAUNT ME BY SAYING GHOSTS REEEEEEEEEEEE

What the fuck am I reading.
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>>87372535
I would if I could, but all I brought to scan was this.
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>>87370964
You faggots have shit taste if you think this garbage is good
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>>87372249
Forgetting Annihilation Conquest, are we?
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>>87372540
It's just that he's really bad with kids outside of Impulse from 20 years ago. Even around 52 his LoSH and last Flash run were both painful.
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>>87372543

Or she'll say she's free to kiss anyone because it's her body and she's an empowered liberated woman, and that Sam shouldn't say shit about it and that they don't rule her life.
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>>87372351
Peter also sold his family to satan, wanted to let a kd die instead of letting Ock save him, neglects his company, and almost killed tony stark because he said something mean to him. He's a douchebag.
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>>87372562
Ah damn, still thanks for the story time!
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>>87371403
>that password
Okay, I smirked.
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>>87372562
One day you'll have to scan something amazing to make up for all the shit you've shown me.

But thanks anyway.
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>>87372642
He posted that Secret Love one-shot last year, it trolled everyone but it was enjoyable
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>>87371344

Gotta give Waid some credit for remembering this. Also, remember when Slott was a good writer?
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>>87372562
>hey kids, it's exclusive scan of comic!
>of bad comic
Reverse Santa. Thanks for giving us a chance to shitpost.
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>>87372654
>Trolled everyone
Because of the Kamala/Robbie fakeout? Anyone in that crackship deserves to drown anyway.
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>>87372661
it gets brought up in like every book with cho anon
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>>87371589
This comic is way too #WOKE for me.
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>>87372670
>not shipping Robmala

smdh
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>>87372075
Haha, this is fucking great, shipperfags blown right the fuck out, thanks Scanbro I can't wait to pick up my copy this Wednesday and actually read it rather than flipping through the pages looking at the art.
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>>87372670
>Robbie

Speaking of why isnt he on the team?
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>>87371344
Just wait until they add Riri too, soon Cho will have to stop bragging about that because there will be 15 little black girls that outrank him.
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>>87372075
Fuck you,
Fuck Marvel.
Fuck Waid
Fuck this team
Fuck these fucking skeletons.
Fuck everything.
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>>87372075
Nova's /ourboy/ now, right?
>>
WTF am I reading?
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>>87371810
Young writers don't sell.
Marvel appoints writers based on name recognition, not talent. You could be the best writer to ever exist: they aren't going to give you a job unless oru're well known or have been sucking dicks hard.
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>>87372714
>now

This was the case since someone storytimed all his comics and we jerked off to how much he suffered
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>>87371540
kekarooni
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>>87371344
but with banner and pym dead would he still be 7th
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>>87372699
He's too busy killing criminals to join this team
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>>87372714
He suffers more than Peter Parker and Hal Jordan combined.
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>>87371294
>--and invisibily we engulf the stolid, form-bound Kree.
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>>87372743
>Pym
>dead
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>>87372075
please tell me this is a shop
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>>87371147
EXPOSITION.
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>>87371589
>The state of fucking Marvel
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>87372767
it's all ultron now baby till the next event centered around him
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>>87371589
ahahahahahahahahaha what even is this
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>>87372776
I'm really a talented comic book artist capable of imitating any style, and just draw the comics two days early. Somehow I am able to correctly guess how they'll look every time!
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>>87371147
>All of Peter's powers
>Plus invisibility and deus ex machina
I remember liking Miles in the begging when he had different powers but couldn't spin webs, really made him stand apart.

What a fool I was.
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>>87372544
Correction: 2016 Waid is a bad writer.
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>>87371810
They're not #woke like Waid is.
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>>87372804
It's All-New All-Different Avengers Marvel, now. 2.0.
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>>87372075
It felt hinted at in the first issue so I'm not too surprised. Honestly though, if Waid toward this direction it feels a bit too soon. The fact Cho and Viv knew each other beforehand is one thing but that was as 'internet friends.' A lot more should have been between the two before they started to get it on.

Art is nice though. I can dig it.
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>>87372699
I'm going to assume that Felipe managed to hold off Waid for long enough for him to get away.
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>>87371918
B R A V O
R
A
V
O
W A I D
A
I
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>>87372866
>Hinted
There are "hints" for anyone fucking anyone if you look for it. Waid just spreads out the romantic tension and let's the shipfags have their field day.
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>>87372075
I'm confused, who is the slut here?
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>>87372540
DC writers who end up working for Marvel are universally shit at Marvel. I'm convinced it's a part of the contract.
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>>87372926

Waid.
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>>87372075
FUCK!!!!

Is this real life?!

>Wake sam up inside (can't wake Sam up)
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>>87372075
What a fucking shitshow but Marvelcucks will be Marvelcucks.
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>>87372944
>Dogfucker dogfucks his way through Star-Lord
>Jumps ship to DC and Green Lanterns is great fun
Marvel projects a field of shittyness.
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>>87372995
GG is fun because they are giving Dogfucker the chance to shape a new character in his own way instead of giving a long standing character that people love
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>>87372866
>Art is nice though
Sorry about your eyes, anon
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>>87373047
Opps mean to say GL
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>>87372448
Scanbro has given his blessing. Champions is ofucally good
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>>87372075
I knew this kind of thing would be inevitable, but this issue's execution was really out of place. I'd like this book to do well, but Waid needs to pull a serious course correction.
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>>87371238
Waid has officially written the worst Sam, Kamala and Cho
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>>87372818
Especially when venom called him out and got shut down instantly. Literally calling himself spiderman when the main one is still around. Also, muh with great power= responsibility which isnt there
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>>87373152
He's technically also written the worst Viv
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>>87371589
you can see the exact frame in which her heart gets triggered!!!
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>>87372970
How are we cucks if we dont buy this shit
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>>87373152
And Viv
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>>87371589
This LITERALLY looks like an Illuminated Comics edit.
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>>87370964
Hey Scanbro I recently puchased a high grade scanner for art and I also wish to scan in rare comics. Do you have any advice?

(this pic is not a scan)
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>>87371192
Cho stop being a dick.
You've wanted this since that time you kidnapped X-23 to fight sharkmen.
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>>87372699
His book didn't sell and he's not politically correct enough.
>>
Waid really would be better off just learn the voices of each character and being true to them instead of attempting to force the "youthful" terminology. Like just having the characters act like themselves regardless of subject manner would make everything much more believable than having them throwing in buzzwords as if that's relatable. Like the problem isn't even social issues, there is just nothing here for the fans of any of the characters.
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>>87373210
Well why not? The rest of real life has become a parody of itself, why not comics?
>>
>>87372699

he lives on the west coast. so does nova, but he can fly
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>>87373235
But that would require effort and Waid stopped trying years ago
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>>87372075
This book is aimed towards teenagers right?

No teenage guy who reads comics will enjoy this plot.
>>
>>87372278

Already dead since issue one
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>>87373269
No teenage girls will like it either, no real personal drama or themes.

I don't know who this book is for.
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>>87373235
He got Tyke right, and he was pretty badass
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>>87373214
Hmm, I don't do much post-processing on mine. I'm using VueScan to scan, then XNView I adjust the levels to be more black. My scanner is ancient and leaves some uneven streaks in the image.

My scans could certainly look better, but I'm just quickly scanning for a storytime, and a much better digital version will be available in two days. For scanning older comics, you'll want to play with a bunch of different things to get them looking good, as well as rotating the pages to get everything straight.
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>>87372075
Whitey got cucked again? Whitey got cucked again.
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>>87372075
What would the reaction be if I showed this who didnt now Banner wasnt the Hulk snymore, and the only thing I tell them is thats The Visions teenage daughter?
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>>87371192
>hat
It's a fucking helmet Kamala you cunt.
>>
i like this book, sorry /co/. it's fun, the characters voices are fun, i hope we actually get to see the hidden cities and other dimensions soon
>>
>>87373315
Sam's Mexican
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>>87373321
* to someone
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>>87373315
there are no white people on this team
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>>87373107
>I'd like this book to do well, but Waid needs to pull a serious course correction.
All due respect, you're a fucking idiot. No book that has a take-off as weak and lazy as this deserves to do well. Just throw it out.
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>>87373349
Tyke
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>>87373384
>muties
>white
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>>87373315
Sam is a spic, the only white is Tyke and withing the X men he only has to snap his fingers to get X pussy delivered
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>>87371876
Scott isn't a faggot bitch either, don't write him as one
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>>87373330
It's ok, Anon. At least you have a sweet social media gig at Marvel to look forward to.
>>
>>87373366
This is a bad mentality to have, you can fix any story.

But I don't think Waid is the guy for that job. They need to replace him.
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>>87373386
>>87373384
Outside of extinction events Tyke's white privilege is intact
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>>87373330
Maybe try reading the characters' solo titles instead of posting on 4chan, Waid
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>>87373330
Be careful, liking things on /co/ is forbidden anon
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>>87371918
fuck you Waid
fuck you Marvel
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Is it to late to give this book to Ewing?
>>
If Cyclops is Hitler
Does it mean that Hitler was Right?
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>>87373465
Yes, also
>Memewing
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>>87371494
I don't fucking know anymore, nothing about this sounds different from other super teams.
>>
>>87371494

don't trust anyone created before 2000
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>>87372075
why hulk is eating her face?
>>
>>87373495
They'll use Viv as a modem to tweet while they fight monsters in other dimensions.
>>
Can we kill Waid before he ruins Kamala?
>>
Hulk should've deHulked though, looks weird af
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>>87373495
Other teams usually form to face threats too big for one hero
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>>87373520
Too late.
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>>87373520
>Before
Two issues and however many ANAD Avengers ran for too late, friend.
>>
>Cyclops means one eyed
>Hitler had one ball
P O T T E R Y
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>>87372699
It's a metaphor... Robbie gets shit done, this team won't
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>>87373483
Hitler was Right
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>>87371589
Ok I'm out.
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>>87373521
That was for chicks who're into size differences.
Remember, this book isn't really for teens.
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>>87373580
/pol/ called, they want you back
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>>87373625
I am here to stay.
Blame Brevoort
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>>87371589
I was thinking to myself as I was reading every page before this, "gee, I know its nu-Waid, but /co/ really wants to hate this book. It's just okay so far". I get it now.
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>>87371589
this is fucking horrible
Waid writing kids and gross art
>>
This was entertaining, in the same sense as watching a fucking trainwreck, thanks scanbro for saving me the money.
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>>87372818
His spider-sense and general strength/stamina is significantly weaker than Peter's. Where Peter's powerset makes him a great brawler (avoid all attacks thanks to spider-sense while beating people down with his fists), Miles' is more about stealth (use invisibility to sneak up on someone then venom sting).

Of course Miles just fights exactly like Peter anyways except the part where he ends every fight with the venom sting so I guess that's a moot point. Still, there's very obvious ways to differentiate the two that Bendis just avoids doing.
>>
>>87373314
Thank you Scanbro!
>>
>>87373520
Has this book seriously effected her inside of her current ongoing in any significant way?
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>>87371238
>telekinesis
SINCE. FUCKING. WHEN?!
>>
Some edit " that gif" changing black widow to viv
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>>87373744
>Has this book seriously effected her inside of her current ongoing in any significant way?
It'll only affect her if it becomes more popular than her ongoing, so better to kill him just in case.
>>
this is not the cho I love and enjoy
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>>87373753
Gotta give him that unique special snowflake edge over Ryder.
>>
>Haha merely trying a kiss
>haha interesting biochemical reaction
>haha Chulk tastes like sausages haha beep boop did I mention that I'm a robot
At this point, I absolutely expect this to happen in #3 :
>Hulk and Viv K-I-S-S-I-N-G
>Viv wants to break the kiss
>Cho keeps going
>she literally screams RAPE or STOP RAPING ME GREEN CIS SCUM
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>>87373753

i think he means tactile telekinesis?
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>>87372075
>Cho cucked Sam for dunking him in water
>>
A whole comic about a bunch of kids triggering one another. You know, this would be brilliant if it was a parody.
>>
>>87371589
Pffft, best laugh I've had all day. I can't take this trash seriously.
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>>87371965
Where do you think Cyclops did nothing wrong came from?

The memes have become cannon.
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>>87372075
GREENED
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>>87372699
He's showing up soon, says Waid.
Ramos probably fits Ghost Rider well enough
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>>87371540
YES.

YES
YES
YES
YES

>Kamala butts in
NO
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>>87372278
>So guys, how ya think Adult-Clops gets killed?

He literally died in issue one. They did a horribly shit job of hiding that twist.
>>
Is Champions the worst book ever written?
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>>87372075
DELETE THIS!
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>>87371589
Why, Waid? You've got a 9/10 roster and the potential for something great and you give us... this.
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>>87372075
What other character that Sam never had any chance with are his fans going to pair him with now?
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>>87373857

They all start out talking with each other. Ween dawn breaks they all lie curled up in fetal position muttering about "triggered" and "privilege".
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>>87373929
It's definitely the worst of this current launch of new titles
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>>87373910
Anon, stop reading now, its honestly best you dont finish it if you hated that.
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>>87373929
sadly no

not even the worst thing Waid has written in the past handful of years (Strange Fruit)
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>>87373791
>Sam going full Superboy and starting constantly mentioning his tactile telekinesis from now on
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>>87373885
>The memes have become cannon.

No, they've decided to make Rightclops bad by, and this is fucking retarded, having every character take turns in every book looking at the reader and saying "Cyclops is bad now". They don't bother to say how or why, but this is the way they decided to do it.
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>>87373929
I was gonna say yes, but I remembered that CWII is still going on
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>>87373929
Mockingbird. Squirrel Girl. Hellcat. Captain Marvel.
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>>87373929

No. Not even close.

This is bad. Bad characterization. Bad Story. Bad art.

But for all that, it is not horrible.
>>
This would actually be good if Waid stopped trying to sound like he's hip with the kids.
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>>87371488

What is Kamala's problem with Cho?
>>
>>87373984
Captain Marvel hasn't been that bad in the latest launch.
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>>87373929
Clearly you haven't read Squirrel Girl.
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>>87373996
No it wouldn't. The roster is shit and the premise is retarded, even if you take out Waid trying be hip.
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>>87373996
No it wouldn't since he'd still be whiffing the characterization and this would still be an issue where NOTHING HAPPENS
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>>87373777
nice get Jesus

I don't really see this book having any serious effect on her own, if anything we might just see these characters make an appearance and have a chance to be written by someone good.
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>>87371589
I 100% believe Marvel will have no fucking idea why anybody doesn't like this book
>>
>>87373929
No, Marville existed.
>>
>>87373625
Nah I'm pretty comfy here. Besides I bring a little cultural diversity to this board, and you love that right? :^)
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>>87374040
They will deflect and pretend like it's because the characters acknowledge social issues
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>>87371238
>telekinesis
wat???
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>>87372016
If this leads to VivxChulk I'm going to be fucking LIVID.
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>>87374040
It should be retooled into a parody to be honest.
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>>87372075
LIVID
I
V
I
D

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE~

DELETE THIS!
>>
I want to LICK Sam's belly.
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>>87371348
they did it again kek
>>
>>87373960
I should have taken your advice. Oh god why didn't I take your advice.
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>>87374103
sam is pure not a slut
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>>87374003
>What is Kamala's problem with Cho?

They're doing the whole jock/nerd friction thing where the guy who's strong is a jerk and the nerd is sensitive and hip to social issues. They basically boiled everyeone down to a stereotype and are going with that because they're assholes.
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>>87371348
Why is Kamala a bitch in this, why is Cho a jock douche, and why is this so bad? I mean this is worst than any edit.
>>
Waid seems dedicated towards making me hate Kamala.
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>>87371589
I genuinely want Waid to die.
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I'm wondering which is the bigger "how do you do fellow kids".

This or Watch Dogs 2
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>>87373753
I was gonna say, but then I realised that it might be a classic Nova thing and that /co/ would mock me for being a casual.
I'm glad it's just Waid being Waid.
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>>87371918
you know cyclops did a LOT of good from when he started out to when he turned right it is unfair to label him as stright up evil
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>>87374209
What's wrong with Watch Dogs 2? I didn't play it or read reviews much. Is it that bad?
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My Kamala is not a stereotype and Waid is gonna pay for what he's doing to her
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>>87374252
Teenagers are often judgmental and ignorant
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>>87373929
It's the worst NOWer book.
>>87373984
>Captain Marvel.
Oh fuck off. Even KSD Captain Marvel was just bland. It wasn't this bad.
Also Mockingbird was good when it wasn't doing feminist shit or terrible retcons and Hellcat's a good enough SOL if you ignore that she's fucking 40, so those aren't great examples either.
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>>87374298
>implying adults didn't act that way since AvX
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>>87372075
Did he really have to be in hulk mode to kiss her
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>>87374300
>Hellcat is good
I just cannot agree with you.
>>
The sad thing is I actually like half this team in their own books but Waid has changed them just enough and made them into such shallow obnoxious stereotypes that now I don't even want to read their solos anymore for fear that it's going to creep over.

I mean hell if you're gonna have Chulk be the resident douche at least do it like it's in his solo where he's constantly trying to get laid. Why the fuck is Kamala Lisa Simspson? Why is Miles even there?
>>
>>87374345
It's not GOOD. It's bland and mediocre. But it's hardly the worst comic ever.
>>
>>87373984
Stop pushing this meme.
Well atleast you skipped Gwenpool this time.
>>
>>87374300
>Also Mockingbird was good when it wasn't doing feminist shit or terrible retcons and Hellcat's a good enough SOL if you ignore that she's fucking 40, so those aren't great examples either.
>Things are good when they're not bad or when you ignore why they're bad.
No. Really? Wow.
>>
>>87374280
Dedsec is the local equivalent of Anonymous.
The MC is wearing a cap with ANONYMOUS WE DON'T FORGIVE WE DON'T FORGET.
The "hacker" behind them has stickers that clearly say "HEY I BROWSE THIS ILLEGAL NOT4CHAN AND I ENDORSE ANONYMOUS"
Can someone post the "enemy girl hacker" please
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>>87374300
Agreed on Mockingbird (mainly two problem issues there), but can't get with you on Hellcat.
>>
>>87374366
When it's being held up as an example of "worse than fucking Champions", yes.
>>
>>87371688
Confirmed:

James Rhodes / War Machine
Bruce Banner / The Incredible Hulk
Tony Stark / Iron Man*

*Stark "dies", he uploaded his mind and basically has become a human AI
>>
>>87372075
Isn't she programmed to be 15?
>>
>>87374413
So he pulled an Ultimate Tony?
>>
>>87372075
Thank you, Scanbro. That was a fun read.
It's nice to read trainwreck comics and butthurt anons reactions for free.
>>
>>87374371
Sounds corny and too late.
>>87374459
Ultimate Universe may be dead but ideas shall live!
>>
>We're forming the champions because our older versions that we've modeled ourselves after are assholes!
>We can't trust baby Cyclops! His older version is an asshole!

I mean, really? The only person that can claim their predecessor wasn't a bastard at some point is maybe Sam.
>>
>>87374459
Honestly, I can't give you the precise details - the ending hasn't come out, although some things have been spoiled in other books. The Tony thing I got from the Iron Man Doom book.
>>
>>87374419

Ah, the age of horniness.
>>
>>87373775
Of Hulk buttfucking her in the pussy, you mean?
>>
>>87374498
Viv also backed him.
>>
>>87374563
Yes, just to see the butthurt
>>
>>87372075
Remember when Cho used to be an adorable little jerk instead of just a jerk? I didn't think it was possible for me to hate Cho and then Waid went and did it.
This page has also absolutely destroyed the last chance for me to consider buying it since I'm currently figuring out what trades I want to start ordering.
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>>87372075
Isn't she underage?
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>>87374419
16, but I'm sure Waid doesn't know that or how old Cho is either
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>>87372075
#ShipRekt
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>>87374628
Technically she's around a year old.
>>
>>87374300
KSD Carol was fine, Mockingbird was wildly uneven but usually good, but Hellcat is just complete garbage.
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>>87371589
I legitimately cannot believe what I'm looking at here.
>>
>>87374628

Strictly speaking she is not human, so i am pretty sure she dont actually have any laws protecting her.
>>
>>87374564
That's the only one that made even the slightest bit of sense but even then Waid wasted that potential to make note of the fact that Viv's grandfather is literally Ultron so "they might go bad" would be relevant to her.

Nope let's just have her talk about microaggressions instead. Fucking hell Waid.
>>
>>87374629
>>87374419
Isn't her actual age under 3?
>>
this was a storytime of pain
>>
>>87373961
What happened in there that was bad?
>>
>>87371982
>>87371851
See, WE know about Tykeclops, but how many of these know that there's a teenage version of the known mutant terrorist running around?
>>
>>87374707
Do the teens, this book is aimed at, even know what a microaggression is?
>>
>>87374287
She is a stereotypical slut for infidel meat!
>>
>>87372075
Was Sam/Viv ever a real thing or was it just hoping?
>>
>>87372075

>BIG
>GREEN
>COCKS

How can white man ever compete?
>>
>>87373520
>ruins Kamala
It already happened
She was so young Anon
>>
>>87374861
Hoping.
>>
>>87374861
I still believe it's endgame
>>
>>87371403
Holy fuck I though waid wasn't this bad?
She was being out of character in comparison to her "Vision" series self enough but this shit is just almost parody like.
>>
>>87372097
>That gif
Should it get updated?
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>>87371448
>Do a shitty, out of nowhere speech on a non-issue
>Essentially escalating a fun and laid back talk into some weird, quasi-political shit
>"Wow you are getting better at these speeches hurpa durpa durr"
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>>87374043
Marville wasn't written by an actual "professional" writer. It was written by an idiot.
>>
>>87372075
>no actual chemistry
>let's PAIR the Hulk replacement with the sub-Vision replacement
Waid, you've become the very garbage you deride.
>>
>>87372075
Which dark power did Sam piss off to receive this kind of enmity? We're toe-ing Peter Parker levels of suffering now.

What's pisses me off more is that even if he gets the girl, we are going to have an endless series of fuckheads spouting that annoying cuck meme for all eternity.

God. Damn. It.
>>
>>87372699
Cause Ghost Rider is about vengeance and justice, not happy feelings and helping out
>>
>>87374861
It originated from a joke an anon made when Vision was blackmailing Sam. Everyone was trying to find an ulterior motive and then an anon chimed in that Vision just needed to get Viv a date for the prom.
>>
>>87372075
FUCK YOU WAID! I wanted Sam away from Kamala and happy for once. Not for you to be pushing shitty ships like this.
>>
>>87371589
HOW DO YOU EVEN GET TO THIS CONCLUSION FROM "GHOST STORIES"?
>>
>>87371589
That's it, dropped. Thank you scanbro for showing me this series so I can avoid buying it. I was on the fence on getting it when it's released on my country one month from now since it HAS characters that I like (Viv, Kamal, Hulk) but this shit is just so bad man.
>>
>>87375105

I actually diagree.

A lot of the Parker Luck is Peter Parkers own goddamn fault.

He make the choices that screw himself over. And he make them over and over because he (and the writers) gets off on him flaggelating himself.

Sam, on the other hand primarily seem to be screwed over by others.
>>
>>87375105
Can we just take a minute to just say FUCK Kamala?
Her fucking first kiss, and Kamala interrupts it for a ghost story. THAT was the real microtransgression.
It's like she doesn't want Sam, but she won't let Sam have anyone, either.
>>
>>87375158
Stop yelling, this triggers me. You're literally raping me when you type in all caps. You're worse than Hitler.
>>
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>>87372075
>>
>>87375197
I think Parker luck is more to do with no win situations. He always has to pick between his personal life and spider-man shit and the second he doesn't pick spider-man shit is when his personal life gets fucked up anyway.


>>87375222
That's almost surprisingly in character when you put it like that.
>>
>>87371876
I love the dissonance.
Marvel has assumed that the readers are on the same page that not only Rightclops was super evil, that his young self is "evil" too despite doing jack all due to Bendis.
>>
>>87375105
Every day Sam doesn't fade into obscurity is a blessing to him.
If he lives past whatever event Marvel has planned next year, it'll be a sign that there is a higher power with vested interest in him
>>
>>87375222
>It's like she doesn't want Sam, but she won't let Sam have anyone, either.
Yeah that is kind of her thing. My advice is get yourself a fat girl when she isn't looking.
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>>87375385
forgot image
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New thread when? I'm almost enjoying this anger.
>>
>>87372075
>Has been part of one story where she just is getting back to her life again
>Write her as a easily triggered femalebot who is so horny she is kissing a giant green monster chad

King creations didn't last 2 months in after the story he wrote concluded. I find this poetic. The only genuine good thing to come out of recent marvel got written and shat on as quickly as they could.
>>
>>87375385
before or after you blow yourself up to achieve nothing in a shitty event?
>>
>>87375497
before that but after you apply to wakanda college
>>
>>87372124
Why are they posting a bunch of messages from Marvel interns?
>>
>>87372699
He's a killer and the only characters that might be able to hang with him are Sam and Viv, as a ghost rider his powerlevel is just too high
>>
>>87375545
Because that's all the "good" ones Waid asked for from Twitter.
>>
>>87371918
>teen Hitler
wow fuck off
>>
>>87370964
Scanbro my fucking guy hope you are well
>>
Every single character is better in their solo book. Except maybe Miles who is pretty much just not in this book.
>>
>>87374079
Yeah, me too
But not even in an "omg I'm so mad I simply must go talk with all my friends about it" way that marvel is trying to go for lately, just in an "I'm not even going to bother pirating this book anymore" way
>>
>>87373929
QUICK SOMEONE STORYTIME US WAR MACHINE 2.0
>>
>>87372463
>>87373753
>>87374076
The Novas have "gravimetric" powers that can be used as space telekinesis.
>>
>>87372124
literally the only good things coming out this book are Viv's looks
>>
>>87372075
Fuuuuck I'm sticking with the Nova title for everything Sam now, hopefully he gets a cutie space GF there and this shit with Waid never happened, Champions is going to get cancelled soon anyway.
>>
>>87371488
>Kamala trust falls into Miles
>>
>>87372351
Sam didn't get mentored by anyone, I guess at some points Iron Man payed attention to him but that was just it.

Rich is making a comeback and might mentor him tho but Rich didn't do anything wrong.
>>
>>87376214
Could we get Beta Ray Bill back? I know it's not exactly legacy, but they were pretty awesome together. Sam needs someone to look up to, so why not honourable warrior space-dad?
>>
>>87376214

One of the best scenes ever was when Rich told off Iron Man for the Civil War bullshit they had while the rest of the universe fought off an invasion from Annihilus and the Negative Zone.
>>
Damn, i'm having some flashbacks with this issue.
So bad, so much trauma.
When Dick is going to take Sam to profit some space pussy? Fuck this earth, go to space, Sam.
>>
>>87376132
>hopefully he gets a cutie space GF there
>it's a team up between Depression Man and Kid Suffering
Heh. You're cute, anon.
>>
>>87372075
Knew it
>>
>>87371095
Spider-Man (Miles) tries and fails to make social interactions.
>>
>>87372075
So when' Sam going to start using /r9k/ and go an hero?
>>
>>87372448
Basketballs don't hold grudges, but I do. Fuck you Scanbro, after reading this comic I wish I was blind.
>>
>>87372214
His story stands on its own. It's the nature of Big Two comics, man. Can't control what happens next unless you get into editorial.
>>
>>87375105
People didn't like Sam Loeb?
>>
>>87371918
Teenage Mutant Hitler?
>>
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>>87371589
Remember how good Vision was and how interesting and well written all the characters were and how Viv immediately jumped from one of the best books Marvel has ever put out to this?
>>
>>87371589
Even a robot can take offense to innocent suggestions
>>
>>87376659
>Some of you guys are alright. Don't go to the Champions campfire tomorrow.
>>
>>87376407
Depression Man always got girls even when he tried to commit suicide, Kid suffering got cuties too but he just needs to hang with the right people who won't fuck him over.

Together they can make one hell of a support team and get better.
>>
>>87376661
I wish you died in the womb!
>>
Holy shit this is literally one of the cringiest things I've ever read. Does Waid seriously think any of this sounds natural?
>>
>>87376344
He's going to be helping out Thor Odinson, they're best buds so I guess Thor is a priority for BRB now.

>>87376353
Ditto, I guess Marvel kind of wanted to do the same with the Champions splintering from the Avengers but they have been to soft with Tony.

>>87376382
I guess once Rich gets out of his space funk, Sam needs a mentor badly, Rich needs a reason to connect with people and according to the writer they're going to help each other out.

Rich knows how to talk to girls so yeah he's definitely going to be his wing man, and Sam needs someone who will try to help him and not just shit over him and as someone who has been shat over most of his superhero career Rich can identify with Sam.
>>
Great book.
>>
>>87372016
>Doesn't use format of "Only my ruby-quartz visor can contain mu optic blasts!"
lame
>>
>>87376955

Worst thing is that the Captain from Nextwave is probably the person who have been most supportive of Sam.
>>
Why does cyclops look so young? I thought the 05 were supposed to be 18?
>>
>>87371386
Tony ain't dead. But Hank is
>>
>>87377075
I would love to see a comic that's just them buddying up and going on adventures, with the cap being cynical and jaded while Sam does his best to stay optimistic despite being the universe's whipping boy most of the time. They had a pretty amazing dynamic for those six or so pages they were together; it was an inspired cameo.
>>
>>87370964
bump for pain
>>
>>87377260
can't bump a thread past the limit (500)
>>
>>87377292
Fucking dancing skull didn't allow me to see that this thread reached +500 comments.
>>
Kamala's vague revolution has echoes of Bendis' Cyclops. I expect this will have about as much substance.
>>
>>87377352
Of course. Status quo is the fundamental force of the universe.
>>
>>87371721

I love you, anon.
>>
>>87372075
lmfao
>>
>>87372448
I loved this one, dude.
THank you.
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>>87372075

Fuck just when I thought being Nova was not going to be anymore suffering
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