How's Your Webcomic? #324

>>87357829
Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on,
Ask for an invite in the thread.

>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

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>>87357829
WIP of the next page!

Yes, the evil dudes are pretty much Daft Punk.

>>87358036
>new france
le ouch
i read that as 'oh my stairs' at first, and now I want that to be a catchphrase

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New art markers!

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And who wants to see the rest of the story?

How's the current state of webcomics? To what degree is the alleged, "To succeed you must do the community circlejerk hosted within the webcomic hosting service of your choice?"

How toxic have internal community/ies been?

>>87359356
hosting services don't have communities

>>87359142
The worse the art, the worse the fetish.

>>87359448
I WISH that were true.

>>87359399
Smackjeeves and TheDuck?

>>87359684
not that I know of. people don't really care about where they're hosted. communities are more about subject of the comics

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I'd like to thanks the assist I got last thread, and finally, got an update done.
My overtime crazy at the office ends tomorrow, so I hope once it's over, I can get to do more strips.

>>87362033
work is such a piece of ass

>>87362154
Yeah, but money is not, and waifus don't come for free, kek

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Happy Halloween, /hyw/!

I'm not exactly working on a webcomic but it'll have comic bits in it
Should I still post here?

Wat a shitty thread. What is this crap?
>>87358036
>>87358704
>>87359142

My fucking 8 year old cousin can draw better than you guys. This is is really bad art. Get yourself some practice.

>>87359142
Man slap your name on this. It kinda sounds like some Murphy's law.

>>87359533
Yeah I think I would rather see badly drawn poorly rendered terrible fetishes than seeing them in HD, very detailed, and very well drawn.

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I just started posting mine. It's at agrestthethief.tumblr.com

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Proof of concept prototype art tests for some future gifwork for the comic. Halloween-themed.

Trying to get the process down so I can crank this out in under half an hour.

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It's time to end Wilfreda's Super Spooktacular Halloween Special. Here's the last strip of the story arc: surprise winners and absolute Trolls.

Read the whole thing here! http://wilfredacomic.tumblr.com/

>>87358704
>>87359142
Still refuse to believe he posts here.
You can't make me accept it.

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Haven't posted here in forever, but since it's Halloween I thought it'd be a decent time to share this comic I finished last month about teens and ghosts (and teen ghosts.)

http://poodledooples.com/palesickandmagic

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>>87363937
Gonna go ahead and post it anyway

Working on bad outfits for a fashion montage in this children's novel

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>>87366333
This is gonna be the "final" outfit in the montage.

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Hi /co/. It's been a long time since I last visited, but it's Halloween and thought I'd share my sci-fi/horror webcomic "The Sprawl".

Before you click that link, it is "furry", it does have some gratuitous nudity, and there are scenes some may consider gory.

http://thesprawlcomic.com/index.php?c=01&p=001

Comments and criticisms are welcome.

>>87366333
This looks adorable. Is she a robot?

>>87366767
Yes, she is.

Is naming a female vampire bat Bella too many steps to get to the reference or am I underestimating people? Would it make more sense to make it a boy and name him Bela instead? The gender isn't incredibly important, though I do prefer the f/f dynamic.

>>87370836
Like Bela Lugosi?
I think Bella would make people think Bella from Twilight first.

>>87371025
Supposed to be Bela Lugosi, totally forgot the girl from Twilight's name is Bella. I think I'll stick with it then. Give her a bit of a complex about people getting it wrong.

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In today's comic, the king has returned...

http://zyxcity.tumblr.com/

>>87371322
Yeah, Bella's a good name.

>>87371375
Damn, he's FUCKING HUGE...

>>87366333
>>87366425
a solid cutie!
>>87365457
You really have your comedy down

>>87371375
Huh, so Remington is still alive. I wonder how that happened.

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>>87364346
May as well post the first page.

>>87373060
That looks worth a read. i'll check it out
for some reason i'm expecting them to have kids running after them trying to steal their cereal..

>>87373060
nice linework, but could use more values. the whole thing looks really empty and unfinished

>>87374517
I'll look into it. My main inspiration for art style is Stan Sakai.
Next few pages are going to be mostly in the dark, but after they leave the cave I will try giving the backgrounds more attention. As it is now it would be easier to colour though.

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Had this story/concept for a while now and never knew when and how to start it, particularly in the "how can I make a self-contained pilot" department. Luckily, inktober and drawlloween came in close, do I decided on using the opportunity and followed the prompt list calendars that were put up. I think I'll manage to finish it up today, but I would still like to post a page here, just because you're good people and I trust you.

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>>87375155
>My main inspiration for art style is Stan Sakai.

Have you considered using screentones? Sakai, like many black and white comic artists, uses them extensively. Check out this page from Usagi Yojimbo to see what I mean. He fills the page in with a mix of screentones and heavy shading.

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A simple decision about a character's looks.

>>87377673
that's really tough. the birdbodied one is fucking creepy, but the harpy lacks eyebrows and her eyes seem too big, even though they're smaller than before.
also don't forget owls are xygodactyl.. if she is still supposed to be an owl. i'd like to see some more options, honestly.

>>87377673
>>87377784
Definitely seconding this. Human faced one is pretty creepy looking.

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I've been posting these for awhile now. This is just something I do on the side, hopefully for cash soon, so I don't put as much effort in them as I could

My next project is a Little Nemo inspired full page comic about a travelling salesman travelling a magic world. I'm really going to put an effort in it to make it look great

>>87364613
That's really cool, anon!

I've always thought that there's a lot of potential in making a webcomic that utilizes gifs to do things traditional comics can't Excluding that one webcomic that shall not be named

I hope it all goes well!

>>87378299
simple strips are good!

>>87377784
Oh my, then i really need to pay attention to details when it comes to creating fictional character from real life animals and concepts...

Didn't even know about owl many being xygodactyl... I wish i learned about that before...

Well thank you very much for the insight. I also need to remember the barn owl visually have smaller pupils than most owls. it will be corrected.

>Also in you opinion this character is suppose to look more innocent than creepy looking, i wanted the facial design to be familiar (being human), but it seems maybe making the character transform from beast form to humanoid form might be more (comforting to the viewer).

>>87364346
Looks like Eva from Wakfu

>>87379199
if she's supposed to be innocent, then I'd keep the big pupils from the one on the left, at least. I just looked at some barn owls, and their eyes seem to be ALL pupil. the one on the right looks more action-packed eye-wise.

has there ever been any comics to crawl out of this cesspit?

>>87379812
your mom

Has the webcomic bubble popped yet? What's the state of webcomics as a whole... err. genre or whatever?

>>87380944
i don't think it has even begun, really. not until there's some kind of really profitable market. creatively, it's not like the medium is taking a significant chunk of anyone's time or showing up in very many fan discussions (except a few like homestuck that barely qualify as webcomics)

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Update time!

Also time to possibly de-naked the lizard soon. At least temporarily.

Update can be found here:
http://mostlylizard.com/

>>87381568
ooh, instaclothes are a lot better than regular clothes

>>87357829
So about that discord?

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http://www.acidflowers.com/
Updating daily
interactive - you choose what the protagonist does next by commenting / upvoting other comments

>>87380445
>>87379812
this is about the level of wit you'd find here, so no.

>>87382663
i'm enjoying participating in this. the upvoting idea is great, not everyone has an idea of their own and you don't need tons of suggestions, just a few good ones

>>87383039
Thank you very much :) Means a lot.

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Happy Halloween /hyw/

>>87383203
y'know if you ever wanna ditch the whole western thing, I would read the fuck out of this

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Finished this page!

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I've found myself less time to work on it, but I'm finally getting to the good part.

>>87383203
excellent lines, cute

>>87383420
have I seen this comic before? Art doesn't look familiar.

>>87365881
I don't think anyone believes it's the real guy posting here... for one thing, the real guy seems way more spergy-angry.

>>87375360
It's a little hard to parse, but I like your character design!

>>87383306
It's all good man. I know not everyone likes western stories. My next story won't be western. But I may ditch the anthros.

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Well, for one, I altered the style a bit to fit with the dark setting, so it doesn't look like it usually does. Second, I barely have anything out (seven parts) and I don't post here often, so I don't think you'd have run into it before.

Hey, if you're interested in it, it's called Witch's Hill.

>>87383761
I don't like most western stories, but I like yours.
I would just also enjoy a story about witch friends.
I seem to recall you drew some humans a little while ago that I really liked, but your anthros are pretty great so i hope you don't feel any kind of pressure there

>>87383504
Welp, I suck at replying

See Here: >>87383848

>>87383848
>>87384215
nope, still not recognizing. did you post it here before?
anyway, link!

>>87384287

I post it on FunnyJunk and occasionally Tumblr. So... pick your poison.

http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/oc-comic-makers/Witch+s+hill/wlGjLjy/

http://torklet.tumblr.com/post/143751389983/witchs-hill-a-story-about-a-girl-a-hill-and-a

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>How's your Webcomic?

Going nowhere honestly. I believe I've made the mistake of thinking too big too fast. I want to form a daily habit of drawing so now I'm thinking I'll start with that. And then work on writing short (very short) stories to work on form and pacing. Eventually I should have a nice collection of short works and then I'll revisit sitting down and trying to write a completely original piece. But right now starting alone is nightmare enough.

Right now I'm toying with the idea of a Beetlejuice short. Because I've been in that kind of mood lately but who knows.

>>87384518
That's a story we've all heard a lot. People of your talent often jump the gun
that's uh.. a very interesting face you've given lydia...

>>87384462
>content was not found
fine, MAKE me go to tumblr
>that layout
fun for reading while there are 7 pages, I guess. could be worse. buuuut when you add new pages, do you expect people to read from the beginning each time? that's not a good format to follow

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Cosmic tales guy here.
I have been taking a break and working on my art. Again.
I did pic related today.

>>87384613
Oh geez, I thought the FunnyJunk one would work. I don't actually like using Tumblr, so I don't care that it's all jumbled up. Honestly, I forget to upload the comic there most of the times.

I prefer using FunnyJunk and using the collection list thing they have; it's like an archive. I haven't used it on mine, but I suppose I should now.

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>>87384580
Yeah. It's kind of amazing. Like, I'm not even that good, and the people who are way better than me who I've always wondered "why aren't they putting out more stuff?" and the more I've improved the more I've come to learn the horror of the answer.

Like, I'm not saying drawing isn't fun for me now, but it feels like it was a lot more fun when I was terrible at it.

>lydia...

Beetlejuice has the weirdest dynamic (specifically the cartoon.) He's like, a way more successful Goblin King when you think about it. Plus I've always like that Lydia just rolls with whatever crazy horror movie shit that goes down between the real world and whatever hell dimension she's constantly getting dragged to to go on adventures.

>>87385033
I know I say this every time you practice, but you are getting noticeably better. but you also have a way to go in terms of your proportions and anatomy.. compared to your inking which is fantastic

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>>87385367
Thanks. I appreciate the feedback and I agree it is time to focus on anatomy again.

>>87385049
yeah dude if you fix it up, that'd be neat. i've never read a comic on funnyjunk before but i like the idea

>>87385283
agreed. and now you're making me wonder what it would have been like if they'd had a Labyrinth cartoon where Sarah and Jareth were suddenly friends.
but what I meant was.. er.. her face. the way you drew it.. uhh.. is there a reason you went that way?

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>>87385807

Hmm. I'm not sure what you mean. Like, is it that weird looking? I'm not 100% sure on the design so it's just a rough sketch...

>>87386285
it's a very, very strange face for a young girl. She looks like Murdoc from Gorillaz.

>>87386285
She has a bit of a man-jaw

how do you portray a friendship between an adult and teenager without makong it creepy or weird... is it possible? any good precedences you guys can think of?

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>>87386348

Hm. Well, she's not that young in that picture. Well, not a child anyway.

>>87386362
In the picture you responded to or the first picture I posted? (lol, or both?)

>>87386501
Just treat it like the very normal thing it is
>any good precedents
like, anything made before the 2000s. like every single disney movie.

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>>87386615
kind of all of them.. not just the jaw, basically every facial feature is that of a typical haggard, untrustworthy male character, such as a leader of a gang of thieves. I'm not saying she has to look like winona ryder, but.. what were your motivations behind those feature choices?
Funny, a friend of mine dressed as lydia tonight actually. she's an artist, if she was still awake I'd ask her to give some input

>>87386501
It's pretty common for intergenerational friendships to happen. Most people have at least one older friend they go to for advice

I'd say the simplest precedent you could aim for is making your characters have similar interests in media they consume. Sports, Art, Music, TV etc.

Or like a big-brother type such as a kid befriending one of their older sibling's friends.

Or even a local community club.

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>>87386758
That's interesting. No particular reason. She looks like a girl to me, but then I've spent a lot of time looking at girls faces, they're not all that soft.

I agree she does look pretty shifty eyed though, lol. I'm actually not going for any particular look. They all simultaneously look right and don't look right to me which is why they're all a little different. I'm not sure what to settle on. I'm also not looking at a lot of references I'm just drawing whatever comes to mind.

For instance I just realized that's not even how her hair is supposed to look....

>>87386685
I agree except most of those are same gender. Mine isn't, and the younger character is a girl. I suppose I am really worried that my audience would only see him as "predatory" even if he's a kind of mentor and they have a genuine rapport.

>>87386869
I think she looks fine. Reminds me of actual teenage gothy types. They just want her to look soft and cutesy.

>>87386869
>but then I've spent a lot of time looking at girls faces, they're not all that soft.
not all, no.. but unless you live in eastern europe or something, you shouldn't be seeing a lot of noses like that on women.
I actually wasn't sure if you were going for a cartoon look or maybe a hybrid of cartoon and movie look. fanart is fun that way, you can do it however you want
>>87386916
anyone who sees him as predatory isn't "your audience". so don't worry about losing them, you want that.

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>>87386982
lol, you never know. One thing I've learned in my adventures of creepy staring (aka studying features) is that they're all over the place. She does have a tiny nose in the cartoon though.

Like I said, I'm mostly just drawing whatever comes to mind. I don't particularly want her to have a bunch of masculine features (the opposite really) but I'm also not aiming for particularly "cute" in a traditional sense. Although I do think goth girls are cute, it's just not in a conventional way at all. By design.

>>87386916
It depends on the ages. When you say young, how young? How old is the guy? Technically these things shouldn't matter if the relationship is platonic anyway, but it MAY affect what type of relationship would be believable. That also goes for if you're sensitive about it, it may affect your own point of view on your story.

What I would say is just do whatever it is you were planning to do unedited and then re-evaluate it as you go along. Are you worried about unintentionally creating sexual tension or something?

>>87387163
Now we're talking! that little button nose, that mouth, those eyes.. those eyebrows.. she's now a little funnylooking, but definitely feminine. Did you look up winona ryder there? Because it kinda looks like it.

>>87387210
Really worried about the sexual tension, yeah, because I am not very sexual myself and those cues go over my head frequently. He's old enough to be her dad, but married to his work and pays attention to her because it gives him a chance to talk about it. His ulterior motive is to not waste an opportunity to subject another human being to meandering ranting. They happen to be a teenage girl, is all. Nobody likes them so they are ronery.

>>87387210
I reckon this anon simply doesn't want the subject to come up, since there is no acceptable way to handle those kinds of accusations. it's a witch hunt, there's no non-incriminating response to 'have you stopped beating your wife'
but having any of that shit in mind when you make your comic is the epitome of pussing out. you can't let people like that win, just don't act like you're "Getting away with something" and it'll work fine.

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>>87387407

Yeah that's basically a (very) quick mark-up based on Ryder. Though that's not what I'm looking for either.

Unrelated: This dancing skeleton is jamming in perfect sync to Carpenter Brut right now and it's kind of incredible.

>>87387437
I know you're worried and it's a minefield out there, but try not to be scared of the results of anything you did unintentionally, because only a complete arse thinks things like 'this is full of cues and innuendos and it doesn't matter if it was accidental, it's still offensive.' and gets triggered and expects you to own up to their emotional trauma

and to be blunt, no amount of preparation is going to save you from that. It's always possible, no matter what you do. So why waste effort on it?

>>87387470
I'm liking this cartoony version. it has a softer nose than >>87386869 on the right (that one is looking a little more snide and teacher-y) and that works, but she's still not overly cute. Looks properly gothy. It's just kind of a shame since the drawings so far indicate you can really pull off some nicely-stylized realism.. You wanna try maybe re-realisming this cartoon look? also your BJ has been excellent throughout. reminds me of Barth from You Can't Do That on Television, who already reminded me of Betelgeuse as it is.

heh, my skelly is marching, and i'm learning a lot about walk cycles.

>>87387437
Oh. WELL. In that case, here's the thing. Assuming your characters have any chemistry at all, sexual tension is simply inevitable in the eyes of the audience. You literally cannot avoid it. So my advice to you, is if you don't want your story to be about that then just ignore it in any of its forms. People are going to ship, period. The point is to not feed into it.

But if you're dead set on being proactive, my advice to you mainly is:

Don't have a lot of scenes where your characters are standing < 3 feet from each other. I see this shit in movies and TV all the time and it's a very obvious visual cue. Like, draw them interacting like how you interact with your male friends (if you are male and have male friends, I guess.) Guys don't stand that close to each other, that shit's gay.

Don't have too many scenes where they are touching each other platonic or otherwise. Unless it's the climax to an emotional moment or something there should be a maintained distance. Their chemistry should come out in the dialogue and other ways, maybe body language or something. But the more physical something becomes the more you feed the shippers.

But like >>87387439 said, you really can't avoid shippers and you really shouldn't give into the Witch Hunters by compromising your literary intentions. Just do what you're gonna do. Your audience will find you.

>>87387528
The Juice is easy though. Disgusting, shady, undead, possibly homeless looking serial killer, middle-aged man-ghoul? Check. Check. Check...

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>>87387756

Forgot pic.

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>>87387586
>people standing near each other or touching will be seen as fucking, guys don't do that or it's gay!
ugh, you're so right and yet I hate you because that's so fucking wrong, and there are so many societal ills (including the aforementioned gay) that could be cured if we could fix that attitude.
>>87387756
and yet, the cartoon still fucked him up a bit, in my opinion. that fucking Dexter's Dad head, where it just grows gradually, chinlessly out from the neckhole, then tapers upward to a point. fucking disgusting. but cartoons LOVE it.

As for this Lydia face.. hmm.. kinda getting a The Spleen feel

>>87383761

I love the western feel, for one.
Also: Your way of drawing anthros is one of my favorite out there, so, just saying.

>>87387843
Haha. Well, I'm not even saying that being gay is wrong, it's just that platonic males maintain a certain distance out of respect for personal space which you would only be inclined to break if you were either completely socially illiterate or intentionally creating an intimate moment. Otherwise there's zero reason to be standing that close to someone when you are talking to them.

In fact guys don't even do that with girls they aren't at all attracted to. Like that nice unattractive female co-worker. She's cool and all, but you're not inclined to close that distance too much.

>The Spleen.

The hero we all deserve. I kind of like rat faced girls though. That shit's endearing to me for some reason (The Secret of NIMH? Probably The Secret of NIMH.)

>>87387586
That makes sense and looking back I'd already done most if not all of that. I think they touch once and it's a death scene, so that's... acceptable not romantic touching imo. If they were the same age they probably would be adorable together but... not this time around.

>>87387936
Oh. Good, because I was just now looking at twitter and found a really good example of what NOT to do, lol. In fact it was so relevant I laughed to my self about it.

>>87387915
>Respect for personal space
>there's zero reason to do it otherwise!
look i hate eurofags but that attitude is so damn american. that's all I'm saying. there are other ways of thinking, y'know?

>>87387915
Wow looks like I have been drawing my guys standing way close together then. Oh well. I need to take a class to learn this shit or up my autistic social observation and mimicry skills.

>>87387982
share it anyway my friend

>>87387991
I'd rather YOU be the trendsetter. All social rules were set by someone. You're just as much somebody as those people! Seriously, it's really easy to undo things like that, especially now. People will pretty much swallow anything if you present it the right way. Traditions are so malleable today that it's the best possible time for all of us weirdos to make our OWN conventions.. With blackjack, and hookers!

Unless your comic is trying to evoke verisimilitude for a specific time and place, in which case yeah absolutely study more.

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>>87387988
I've lived in Europe for a total of about 12 years of my life. Not even Europeans put their faces together when they talk.

Like we can nit-pick about when it's okay to stand within someone's personal space. But I'm talking about in general, people don't stand that close unless they are being intentionally intimate (or are dense.) That kind of body language is universally provocative, even in cultures where it's acceptable. The message it conveys is very personal. And if you want to "minimize" tension, I'm just saying a good way to do that is to minimize that kind of interaction.

>>87388003
For instance. Pic related. Nothing is happening in this image really. But that tension is so thick you could use it as a heavy bag. To be fair, that is 100% the intention of the artist. But my point still stands.

>>87387991

Haha. Well look at it this way. Are they standing so close that one of them could easily lean in for a kiss? Then they are too close.

Are they doing this while having a normal conversation about sports or the weather? Or the last episode of Game of Thrones? Then they are DEFINITELY too close.

IF they are supposed to be platonic friends. If they're supposed to be super gay lovers then it's fine.

Although I feel like I should again clarify, that this is more for when your depicting a relationship. In real life there are thousands of different nuances to social interactions. And ultimately it doesn't matter to onlookers because in real life people mind their own business. But in fiction the entire audience is concentrated on how the characters act and what they do. So universal social norms are important to conveying your intentions to the audience as the artist. Unless your characters are aliens or intentionally are supposed to defy convention.

>>87388104
It's tense because one's looking down at the other and the expressions are dour and dead serious. but it could still be totally casual. Every culture is different about this, I severely disagree about your idea of it being universal. Hell look at Japan.. that picture would be unthinkable for a boy and a girl, but a bunch of guys will get TOTALLY like that all over each other, the same way giggly american girls will with each other. just like a bunch of sloppy drunken monkeys. and I believe, deep down, that all life-forms want to be this way with each other, they're just scared of various things depending on their upbringing. my cat WANTS to snuggle with my dog, she's just fucking scared for no good reason.
actions don't convey messages. messages are inferred.

I'm just going wayyy deeper than comic creation needs to be.

>>87377237
sorry to break your heart, this guy aint using any screentones.

these are all hand drawn stroke techniques
the dots on his clothes were done by hand

>>87388243
aren't they still called screentones when they're done by hand? or are they just 'tones' and the 'screen' part refers to the shit you cut out and paste

>>87388259
>>87388243
is there ANY reason to do that at all? seems retarded and poor

>>87388340
it looks pretty fucking amazing, but only because we were told to go look at it.. so no. but if you're good at it, it will feel good to do. Like, I'm good at drawing random speckles on shit. sand, stars, whatever. I enjoy that.

>>87357829
test

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>>87388219

It's tense because their faces are like 2 inches apart. Even if they were both smiling tension would still exist because the distance between them is practically non-existent.

Even in Japan this would be fine if the two people are intimate (I lived there too.) And no, guys don't intentionally get that close to each others faces. When you are drunk you become mentally inhibited which makes you no better than someone who is unable to read social cues at all.

Girls are different. Depending on their relationship they are more inclined to completely invade each others personal space, but they can also be more physical in a casual setting. But that goes beyond just social norms.

Just like your cat and dog example. Cats and dogs are natural enemies. They are both territorial and not animals you would see getting along in nature in close proximity. Your cat is not afraid for no reason, he is afraid because not every ounce of its instincts have been bred out.

It's the same vice versa. Some dogs are wary of cats because they still remember and aren't completely stupid (friendly.) Why? Because a cat will scratch the shit out of you if you invade its personal space without being invited regardless of your size.

Even lesser animals are capable of reading into social cues as long as their not bred to be totally mindless. Both dogs and cats are capable of understanding each others body language.

It's the same with people. I disagree that the differences are that vast across cultures. I've been around, they seem pretty consistent to me within a certain range. (Obviously I'm not going to claim they are ALL 1:1.

>>87388340

It depends. Whether it looks good or not is entirely dependent on your style. And if you have that kind of time there's no real reason not to do it if you can make it look good. It's really more of a dealer's choice than it is anything else. Like there are a lot of effects that are just better done by hand.

But I do agree, for generic clothing tones, unless you really can't afford it or hate screen tones for some reason it's so much easier to just use tones rather than doing it by hand.

Then again, it's Yojimbo. So it's possible it predates screen tones being widely used by everybody...

>>87387991
It varies from person to person, but generally speaking, most people have a personal space about the length of their upper arm. Basically, if you can touch the other guy with your elbow, they're too close for comfort.

Obviously, this has a lot of modifiers; Ignoring someone's personal space can be done for practical reasons (like in a packed train), as a show of dominance (yelling in someone's face), simply failing to think about the other person's feelings (a stressed social worker manhandling an old woman as he helps her dress), being bad at social cues (drunk guy or autist getting all up in your face t tell you about their pokeymans) etc., but if two people are right next to each other when there's no outside reason for it and neither of them minds, that implies a large degree of emotional closeness and trust to the viewer.

It doesn't have to be romantic, but it will often be interpreted that way (especially for male characters, since men are generally expected to keep a firmer leash on their emotions).

>>87388444
>if you have that kind of time
Nobody has that kind of time. You have roughly 30,000 days on this earth. 1/3 of that spent sleeping. Add up eating, schooling, lazying, playing, working, that's easily another 1/3. Leaving you with 10,000 days to do work, and that's assuming you don't get ill or injured, or perhaps grow too senile to do your best work. How much of this little time do you want to spend making dots?

>>87388497
This exactly.

>>87388582
Life can't really be broken down into a practical math equation though. Sometimes it's just better to do it yourself. If it's your job and your release schedule is in your hands then you can afford to spend extra time doing things the hard way.

I didn't say that I would do it. I'm just saying I can see why a manga artist in the 70s or whenever Yojimbo was made might do it.

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New page my people. Havent posted in here for a while so thought I should.
http://dreamrise-comic.com/comic?sort=21

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>>87388770
The foreshortening in the first panel is so bad in comparison to the rest of the page that I honestly think it would be worth the effort for you to go back and redraw the arm and sword completely. Like, everything else about the page works just fine except for this one thing, but the one thing that doesn't work is the main focal point of the biggest panel on the page.

>>87388243
Why would it break my heart? It's impressive as hell. It's also very time consuming and there's a lot of hand drawn screen tones out there one can use for similar effect.

The primary point is that ...
>>87373060
...looks unfinished due in part to how empty the page looks. Tones, hand drawn or using pre-made screentones, would help immensely while also making it look closer to the artist's inpsiration.

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Bump. Think this page seems about done, now.
Not sure if I should remove "a human?" from the last panel's dialogue.

>>87391040
Depends if you want it to be an innuendo or not.
go for it

>>87391073
I guess I'm just not sure if it's more threatening. If it's innuendo it's kind of like a joke, defusing the scene, but the added violation of privacy might make up for it.

>>87384518
>>87385283
Maybe you need to practice script writting.

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I think it’s going alright.
https://issuu.com/saw08

I finished Chapter 2 last month and am starting in on 3.

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Not quite on topic, sorry, but I'm using Krita with a cheapo monoprice pad. I changed the cursor, but now when I draw with the pen, it draws down and to the right of the cursor instead of where it actually should be. Using a mouse, it's where it should be, it's just with the tablet and pen. Using the default cursor doesn't have a problem either. Screenshotting doesn't capture the cursor, but for reference, the triangle is the cursor and the line is where it's actually drawing.

Any ideas? I switched cursors since I have a ton of trouble seeing the default one, so going back to that isn't really an option. Either way, Krita's borderline unusable for me.

>>87394419
You've tried rebooting the PC and restarting Krita, right?
I've had the cursor go a bit wonky on me at times, and that seems to fix it, but I have no idea about your specific problem, sorry.

>>87394513
Yes to both. It's a very strange error, couldn't find anything about it when searching, either. I'd think it was a calibration error, but it works normally with the other programs and when using the default cursor. ANd it's not a problem with the cursor being misaligned or something since it paints normally with the mouse. It's a shame, because I really like the quick palette thing, but the default cursor is practically invisible to me.

>>87394419
>>87394596

Are all your drivers up to date?

It might be that the program just doesn't like the tablet. Years ago, I had a little Trust tablet and decided to try the demo version of Manga Studio. I experienced a similar problem where the drawing cursor was drastically dislocated from where the actual cursor was. I took that as a sign to upgrade my tablet to a Wacom as it was several years old by then.

>>87394631
They're up to date, but that's probably the only thing it could be. It's a new tablet bought a week ago, but it's not the newest or the top of the line model by any stretch since I'm just starting out and didn't want to blow a few hundred if I wasn't going to stick with it, especially with christmas coming. It's the monoprice 10/6.25 with 8 hotkey one.

>>87394723
Have you tried it in a different drawing program like FireAlpaca or Medibang Paint Pro? (both free, small and easy to use).

>>87394863
Yeah, it works fine in both Gimp and Painttool SAI, which is what I was using for. I'm downloading the clipstudio trial now.

>>87395024
sorry, using BEFORE not for.

>>87395313
Crap, but first attempt

>>87395024
Alright, and clipstudio is working fairly well, but sometimes my pen doesn't draw when using the pencil tools despite it moving the cursor and working on the pressure test setting. Definitely a tablet problem unless both programs are suffering from totally unrelated issues. Maybe I'll treat myself to an actually good one if there's a good black friday sale.

>>87388404
they sit in each others' fucking laps, dude. just saying
>>87391040
>censored isnt what I expected
nicely done.
>>87391158
You could switch the order. that way as you read left to right you're like whaaaa and then 'a human' OHHH

>>87394275
an interesting format.. but it's in spanish

>>87395328
bums are always funny
>>87395649
in my experience, monoprice errors come from wacom drivers, so it's not like a different tablet is guaranteed to fix this error. i get tons of errors with my tablet based on other programs running at the same time (VLC is a known one. telegram's another)

>>87395989

>>censored isnt what I expected
Do I even wanna know?

>switch the order.
Like "Well now, what have we here? A human..?"
I guess that might work.

>>87397537
oh come on you know what you were implying. you took us for a little ruse cruise.

>>87397644
>you know what you were implying.
>implying I know what I'm doing

Bada bump.

>tfw unmotivated when seeing other artists improve so much and have the confidence to post stuff that people like
I always get worked up about it when I know I shouldn't. Does anyone else feel like this sometimes?

>>87399255
a lot
try to find one who's more on your level and you'll be better motivated

>>87399255
ALL the time. Even if you get to a point where you're drawing six hours a day and improving at artistic mach 3, there'll always be some asshole half your age doing exactly what you want to do except better and faster.

Just try to focus on what you're doing today compared to what you did yesterday, and when you get discouraged by all the people ahead of you, remember that there's no magic trick - there's nothing they're doing that you can't learn to copy.

>>87399465
>>87399763
Thanks! It's nice to know that other people here can relate. It's like everything I draw and want to show isn't good enough when compared to others, making my want to draw sink even lower.

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>>87378299
Like I said, here's my next project finished

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>>87400630
Also here's a piece of shit I made for fun

Dudes im working on the groundwork for something to do in the future. It's gonna be about aliens, if i post my roughs for one race can someone give me a tip?

>>87400748
abso-goddamn-lutely
>>87400630
this looks like you altered the aspect ratio afterwards..

>>87400779
That's funny. Mostly because I only altered the second one's aspect ratio. Although I am transferring the actual images around to different applications so I can post it here

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>>87400779
Rough. supposed to be sort of dog-cattish. Trying to strike a balance of animalistic and not furry looking because thats def not what i want.

>>87400847
is it possible you have a miscalibrated monitor? or maybe i'm just nuts here, let's get a second opinion or three
>>87400964
I love the nose. Nice and alien. good eyes too. It doesn't just look like a copy of an earth mammal
From the profile shot though the nose doesnt stick as far forward and down as I thought it did from the front. I'd like to see more forward and down-ness of the nose.. maybe only for males?

>>87401150
the nostrils are actually those two black spot bits beside. I just need to get the angle of the muzzle right, decide on 2 or 4 ears and come up with the dimorphism for the genders.

>>87401265
yeah this has potential for sure. is the asymmetry ntentional? I only ask beacuse you seem to have done it twice, and mirrored the nostrils. it wouldn't exactly be unthinkable.

>>87401758
Not particularly but its something to keep in mind for future, varying feature size and placement. I think first thing i should do is establish the basic construction

>completely out of ideas for one small part of a page, working on it anyway, hoping it occurs to you by the time you get to that part

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WIP of the next page!

>>87404813
Angel is too fucking cute I can't take it
Tarantino*
is that just a flaccid pajama-arm in those panels? because it kinda looks full-of-arm

>>87404868
Oh yeah, I forgot about the arm thing with the pajamas, I'll fix it.

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>>87396538

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In today's comic, Lord Remington shows his face for the first time since 2098, revealing that he has the same mutation as Ben.

http://zyxcity.tumblr.com/

>>87404813
>>87405071
>>87405588

Cool comics, keep it up y'is!

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Finished this page!
My resolve is strong tonight

>>87395989
> they sit in each others' fucking laps, dude. just saying

Who are you talking about?

>>87406522
young japanese males.

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cannot decide on a color for Tenshi's outfit here. also I wanted it to be sluttier, but I'm so bad at thinking of clothes like that. I imagined the outfit in black, and that will definitely not work with all the other black on her

If you recall, Tenshi got carted off by some succubi in her last appearance. this is what happens!

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How do you know it's bad if you haven't read it? There's a process, see?

>>87405588
Oh, so Remington was that Batteka character you showed off a while back.

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Getting back in the swing of things. Found the sudden urge to move the story along as the comic's officially been running for a year now, and there hasn't been enough namedrops as I'd like there to be.

>>87406636
I can't tell if you're agreeing or disagreeing with what I'm saying.

Young Japanese Male strangers don't do that. It still indicates a level of intimacy (and I can't say I ever witnessed behavior like that in public.) And I don't know if your using anecdotal evidence you've either heard about or seen yourself as reference for the general behavior of Japanese males. But there ARE gay Japanese guys. All that yaoi manga can't be wrong.

Either way, there's nothing I've read about concerning Japanese culture or personally witnessed while living there that leads me to believe that that's common widespread behavior among the Japanese. Though I guess an actual Japanese person would be able to tell us for sure.

>>87407300
>flesh tones

Well I'm convinced.

>>87407578
not strangers, but classmates. do you think I'd just make something like that up?
why are we still talking about this?

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>>87408067
Personally, I find it interesting.

I'm not saying you're making it up. I'm just wondering to what extent they are displaying that behavior and what the sociological factors behind it are. Because when I make an argument for universal patterns of behavior it's in reference to the vast majority. Of course there are going to be patterns that run contrary to that.

Like, I've seen Italian guys holding hands. ALL Italian guys don't hold hands. In fact I would say MOST don't. But in typical American fashion. If a tourist spots two guys holding hands in a foreign country they come back reporting that "Italian guys hold hands." But after spending considerable time around them, what I've noticed about Europeans is that typically when they act super gay it's really just because they actually are gay. So it's hit or miss. Mostly among young people. It's even the same in your example of Japanese students.

It's just something to think about. Thinking about behavioral patterns helps me when it comes to creating characters.

>>87408293
>Because when I make an argument for universal patterns of behavior it's in reference to the vast majority. Of course there are going to be patterns that run contrary to that.
that's the first time i've heard someone other than myself say that about something. nevermind then, i didn't realize what i was arguing exactly.
watching your lydia evolve is really interesting. i Kinda like this one.

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>find local "shounen manga" magazine that is constantly looking for new authors and, from the looks of it, will take pretty much anyone
>want to send them something so I can put my name on something locally
>come up with a weird Kill Bill meets Stardust crusaders meets El Topo meets Hermetic Garage thing but much worse
>protagonist is cowboy James Sunderland, making it too adult
>other characters include a disgraced idol looking for revenge, a STRONK maid, a magician trapped on the body of a dog, and a dreamlands cat
>haven't come up with anything shounenshit-like since then
>mfw I can't come up with some light on the fly to save my life
I feel like an idiot. This shouldn't be that hard.

>>87408467
some light?
anyway it's hard to push inspiration, it just has to come. good luck with that though. watch what you sign

>>87408513
I meant something light.
Fuck.

>>87408612
what kind of light stuff are you looking for?

>>87408693
Just, like, something you'd expect from a shounen manga.
Come to think of it, I haven't read one of those in ages and have taken a bad habit of writing broken or broken-ish characters lately.

>>87408974
get reading, man. that's how you get inspired.

>>87408467
I think you're over thinking it. Just stick to the basics.

>Protagonist has some incredible ability
>walks in to places where problems are happening
>initially chooses not to help
>something happens that changes his mind
>solves problem
>leaves
>repeat for 400 chapters

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>>87408415
Yeah, sometimes I have to remind myself to make sure I'm being clear.

I think somewhere between >>87387774 and >>87408293 is what I'm looking for in terms of looks...

>>87409073
don't forget
>hangs around his hometown, interacting with people he knows, protecting people he cares about, and learning about what's going on outside of home.
that's the best part of all shounen, that first part.. What sucks is when it becomes a fucking job for them

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Any suggestions for this page? A friend said the panels were too empty and boring.

>>87409722
I feel like the third panel would benefit from a detailed background, and more dynamism in her landing pose - raised legs, bent at the torso maybe?

>>87409722
cockroaches and spiders and centipedes crawling around in the first panel, then skittering away in the second?

>>87409272
Bingo. Also the love interest is someone he saves or meets in the first couple of chapters if not the very first one.

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>>87409777
>>87409839
I'll keep both of those in mind, thanks!

Did a quick shitty mock up of some re-positioning, bringing Snoots into the foreground more. I know it's just quick blobs of color, but think it'd be better?

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>>87408467

I was actually thinking of submitting to that contest as well.

Would it be rude if I ask anybody here to give it a read of what we've created so far and let us know what you think?

It's an action adventure comedy series that follows the format of a kid with monster. I finished the 1st chapter today. Any tips on toning or composition/framing that could be used to further improve the experience is greatly appreciated!

Its being hosted here:
http:// boysland.thewebcomic. com/

>>87409994
I like it better when she's his childhood friend neighbor
you can really see how much influence japan has gotten from cape comics

>>87410007
I think he was just fine where he was. You don't want to take too much attention away from the hole, the reader's eye SHOULD go to the hole.
>>87410022
>breaking up a link
why?

>>87409722
>>87410007
If I had to make one criticism. In the second panel the beam of stuff is supposed to be flying up and out of the hole, right? Maybe its just me but the way the lines are it makes it look like its going down instead, like something is crashing to Earth.

>>87410039
I like it when the protagonist gets another love interest but still has the clearly-in-love-with-them childhood friend with them but who is totally okay with it

>>87410022
I don't think you're ready for professional publishing yet, if I'm honest, but this is really growing on me the more I read it

>>87410057
Maybe a few bats should be poinging up more gently out of the flow. Like if you imagine what a bunch of pingpong balls would look like shooting out of a pipe, there would be a few around the edges who lost their velocity early

>>87410126

Ah thats cool with me. In all honesty, I'm cool with just publishing it online for free for everyone to read.

But thank you!

>>87410142
That could work, but I was thinking of an easier solution which was to just rotate the gush vertically

>>87410126
For a contest though I don't see why he shouldn't submit it.

>>87410184
I don't think I know what you mean, but hopefully Dustin does. I would have made it spreading out as it went, but that wouldn't prevent it from looking like it's getting sucked in.
>>87410199
sure, can't hurt. just make sure you read the agreement and you're not signing anything important away

>>87408981
I have Mx0 in another tab.

>>87409073
>>87409272
Thanks.
I'll see what I can come up with with this. I really wanted to make something that wouldn't stretch for too long since it'd be kind of like a side project.

>>87410039
Well, they've been retelling Spiderman at every chance they got after all.

>>87410153
Okay, all caught up. You've got a knack for nice, slow storytelling. I dig it. Now that he's in the digital world I'll have to see how well it reads one page at a time, sometimes things are better binged, but either way i'm giving it a shot

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>>87410651

I really appreciate you taking the time to read that dude. thank you!

I'll be submitting future content in chapters at a time. It will take longer, but I want to tell the story in bursts rather than 1-page at a time format.

>>87406728
Was that inspired from Dokuro-chan?

>tfw messy lines
I dont know if its cause my hands are shaking without me noticing or what. How do i fix this?

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>>87405071

>>87405752
Cheers!

>>87413823
Depends on the exact nature of the mess.
If it's digital, first try drawing along a ruler and see if that makes a straight line.
If you're sure it's your hands and not your tools, just practice drawing straight lines a lot. This guy goes through a few exercises you can do.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgDNDOKnArk

>>87414257
Thanks F-am

>>87407300
This is some cargo cult bullshit right here

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Bump.
Man, this thread's dead today.

>>87411346
ah, well there you go then

>>87413642
Now that you say that, it must have been! I just had it written in my notes for that to be Tenshi's fate next time she appears. Most of it was just Black Pit, and I know he has a huge club sometimes. I even wrote specifically to make it a BRONZE tetsubo because an angeldemon wouldn't be wielding iron if they're fairies too
>>87415619
oy. things are tough for Death
>>87419089
kittyyyyy. also I love that first panel, it's so matrixy and really gives the impression her reflexes are fantastic

>>87419466
Maybe not a solid iron tetsubo, but an iron-studded kanabo would make fine sense for something allergic to iron - after all, you wouldn't be touching the iron parts yourself. Like how flamethrowers are a thing even though humans are weak to fire.

Yeah, I really lucked into that first panel. Hopefully I can render it without losing all the dynamism.

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Long time no see, /hyw/

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In today's comic, Tuler Dula gets pissed off.

http://zyxcity.tumblr.com/

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>>87420719

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You're all doing great, keep at it!

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>>87420776
Aaand that's it, all I had accumulated since last month

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Oh, forgot these two. Keep at it!

>>87420721
Ah yeah, I knew she would do something sooner or later.

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>>87420830
Nice use of colors!

>>87420721
Neat expressions!

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I don't like adding text to paint tool SAI

>>87421375
because it's shit, stop using sai

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https://tapastic.com/series/1139theComic

My good friend (artist) and I are starting on a comic.

Currently we're working on the second chapter, it's mostly a personal project for now but we'll see where we go with it.

>>87421869
What are some better options?

>>87420640
true. that thing in gargoyles where even banging an iron bell hurts oberon, i reckon that's a level of weakness only the highest-level, purest-blooded would have. angels and demons are wayyy far out there for me. and as it is they have decent protection against weapons from intangibility. This shit is fun to think about.
actually my favorite kinds are the ones that have big thick chunks on them instead of just little spikes.. but that's harder to draw

>>87421375
That's incredibly generic-looking. If someone asked me to make that design less interesting and memorable, I'd honestly be hard-pressed.

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>>87420830
i still miss the wee piglets
but the tragically unfunny clown guy is so completely great. I have a lot to learn from you

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>>87422338
not a very nice way of putting it, but can't disagree

>>87422338
Ok. But that's not necessarily a bad thing given the setting.

There are plenty of good stories with generic looking main characters.

>>87419089
Your style is really captivating, I like the texture you put into it

>>87422510
Sure, but I don't know anything about your story so I have to assume it's not one of them.
Why does your story benefit from having a main character I couldn't pick out in a crowd?

>>87422726
It's a story set in a medieval-ish period, with magic re-emerging into the world.

The character is just a normal kid.

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>>87422854
>medieval-ish period, with magic re-emerging into the world.
>tfw writing a similar story
>tfw every time I do this I find it's already done or someone else is starting to do it
>tfw zero creativity and retarded

>>87422944
Well, I mean, it's just a one sentence summary.

I'm sure your story is much different than mine.

miss melee no longer posts? is the comic dead? who else did we lose?

>>87422854
>The character is just a normal kid.
Normal doesn't and shouldn't equal generic. Western and eastern comics and animation are full to bursting with examples of normal kid protagonists who aren't generic.

>>87424139
what's the point, these threads are dead

>>87424207
In what ways is he generic then? His outfit?

>>87424548
The clothes don't do anything to create a remarkable silhouette. Apart from that he looks like a generic Disney Prince.

Try drawing him with emotions or in action next so we can see where you're going with him.

>>87424699
>disney prince
what? he looks nothing like that. he looks like a generic hobbit kinda guy. short, fat face, slumpy hair, clothes halfway between finery and peasant. he looks like a background NPC you buy stuff from.
to be a dashing prince he'd have to be tall, muscular, with a chiseled jaw. or if he's a young prince like an Ashitaka type, he'd have to look agile and cunning and have spikier hair. this guy is solidly low-test

>>87424985
It's mostly the dark wavy hair and boyish, bright-eyed face. Low- or high-test, there's nothing there to suggest any personality beyond a vanilla ideal.

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>tfw you could stop updating your comic tomorrow and no one would bat an eye

>>87425114
if he had wavy hair it would give him a little personality at least. nobody likes drawing wavy hair.. I feel like we don't get represented

>>87424548
His face is generic, his build is generic, and his outfit is generic. Nothing about him grabs my attention - no unusual or elaborate hairstyle, no jewelry, no colors anywhere (and he's not even doing the all-black thing, which would honestly make him more memorable than he is now), no indication of social class, no clothing that looks really bizarre to a modern westerner...

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Hey lads, how far down, out, what angel, should i put the muzzle at? whats the best balance between animalistic and intelligent looking i guess?

>>87426788
depends, what are you going for?

>>87426872
A sort of dog-cattish like alien that evokes an animal aesthetic without drawing furryness to it.If it helps in visualization they're a spiritual race that inhabited a jungle world, Kind of like space viet-cong,

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I made a new banner for my site today. That's about all I did today though.

You can read Monster Lands here: http://www.monster-lands.com/

>>87427134
ahhh righto, in that case i think you're doing really good things with the cranium. that's just perfect for them. the one on the right with the heavy brow, not so much. lighter brow for sure.. you could pick up the muzzle angle a little more forward if you wanted, you could even go really long, long snouts seem pretty wise.

>>87427156
good banner for sure.

>>87427229
So the one on the right? just vary the angle and size of the muzzle for variation sake. I think the last thing is to get a better grasp of the brow, possibly draw a skull for them and find ways to make them not hideous and gender Dimorphism

>>87427312
naw i think left is best. the right one looks more like a laborer alien. in fact i'm sure i've seen a design just like that before.

>>87427259
Thanks!

>>87427366
>right
yeah i meant left sry.

>>87427443
it's okay, it's allleft now.

bump
i should have a page done soon

I finally started making a fancomic I've been wanting to do for forever.
I'm making it 4-koma style and I have 8 strips drawn so far. Just need to scan and color them.

>>87430633
hey alright, what's it a fancomic of? that sounds readable. We don't get a lot of 4koma fancomics.. and honestly that's the best way to do that

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>when your comic protagonist commits his first murder

>>87430996
d-does it count if it's accidental/negligent?

>>87431052
Only if the protagonist realizes the gravity of what he's just done

>>87431073
okay phew. still virgins then.

>>87430666
It's of Josie and the Pussycats and it's not a dark gritty or sexy, just about them in a complex band academy.
I came up with it for a reboot class assignment some years ago and wrote plots down as episode springboards so it has things like:
>They need to write a new song and they argue about it
next to
>Valerie unleashes a storybook dragon on the school and the band must clean up the mess

>>87431394
that could work!

dammit, comic. be-drawn-faster.

>>87432523
no it can't, it sounds terrible

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This should not have taken this long.. but hey, lots of continuity!
I never have any idea whether to treat my audience like their memory can be measured in years or minutes

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>>87430996
Always fun to do a first kill.

I feel kind of bad for not dwelling on how shell-shocked about it Erin should still be, having killed someone just a few months back. But she's been on the back-burner for the Sisters lately. She shows up next issue dealing with some shit that happens this week's update. She's not supposed to be good around death, but she's one of those people who gets jaded to it pretty quick because she's a bad person. Plus one should argue self-defense, but Erin did fuck him before murdering him because she just wanted to get hers.

How you fucks been doing? We've been good. Getting close to the end of our twelfth issue, "the Witness." Third issue in our second arc. Feels good to get this far. Been busy as shit with other projects.

>>87427156
Pretty good banner. I like your work and I need to catch back up.

>>87424548
He's very well dressed, but the cloak/tunic/boots look is very similar to a dozen other protagonists. You should consider personality in how he dresses as well as his age, if he is 14 and magic is starting to come back into the world; maybe he should be a little more cautious in how he carries himself? He's also blandly handsome, which is only a problem because he looks more like a background character than a protagonist.

I have a hard time visualizing him emoting in a way that has staying power, just looking at him. Even giving him a different mouth/teeth would help him stand-out. He doesn't need to look crazy unique, but a little thing like buck teeth or a slouch and a more humble posture can sell him as being a character rather than background fodder.

Looking at his design, nothing speaks to who he is or the sort of things he might go through. Surface impressions are important even if they're wrong. When you look at a person on the streets you can make assumptions based on them. You want this to be someone who at a glance you can see someone thinking "I wonder what that guy's about."

>>87434067
Not like that'll stop me.

>>87364062

No bullying, Anon. Go back under your bridge.

>>87383761

Haven't been to /hyw/ in some time so I don't know your comic, but your anthros are cute.

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>>87435585
I appreciate all the short haired chicks in this desu

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Should I darken the shadows a tad?
I'm gonna be putting up a mini story online in the near future but for the actual novels, the illustrations are going to be greyscale

>>87437352
Is the background still going to be pure white in the finished version? Else I'd darken them more than just a tad.

>>87437427
It'd really depend on the setting/ mood of the illustration
That was just a quick test of the lineless art I'm choosing to go with for this series.
Once I have some true illustrations done for the short story, I'll post em up

>>87437467
Well, then it depends on the setting and mood how dark you should make the shadows. Simply turning a colored image greyscale tends to have comparatively less contrast because of the lack of saturation and hue.

>>87437641
Yeah I'm messing around in my settings and I think using a gradient map instead works better.
I'll keep messing with stuff once I get a proper mock up page up

I have some ideas and want to get some input.
>A sci-fi adventure about the first astronaut to pilot a ftl ship and leave the solar system
>A post apocalyptic fantasy with old gods and human condition horror
>An alternate history ww3 scenario between the US and the UK with mechas, power armor and japs.

>>87438746
the fantasy one will be equal parts ww1, fallout, dungeon punk and involve something thematically similar to war of the worlds.

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>>87438767
There's very little feedback that can be given to ideas as vague as this. Almost any idea can work, given the right execution.

If you honestly don't know which one you like best, pick the easiest one, or the one that will take the shortest time to reach its conclusion, and go with that (if you don't know which one will take the shortest time, write out the outline and figure it out). That way if you mess it up, it won't take as long before you can move on and start a new thing, wiser from the experience.

I have a million ideas but am willing to write what ever an artists wants to draw. I want to start a webcomic or an actual one so I can get published an do the DC writer's workshop next year.

Anyone interested in making a fun little story, could be anything, could be dark and serious or even horror. Whatever you want, I'll write it.

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Will we mend the arm? Will he lose it and replace it with a cool hook or something? Will it get infected and kill him? So many options
http://www.acidflowers.com

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Dialogue is hard. Panel composition for dialogue is also hard. Woe is me. I don't know if "troll-beast" is too much and I should just go with "monster", but I feel like it kinda adds to the vikingy atmosphere.

>>87439433
I'm pretty busy with my own comic right now, but I've been meaning to do something else on the side where I don't have to do the writing once I get my buffer properly aligned. If you could write out a high/heroic fantasy one-shot that's less than thirty pages* before the start of december, I'm certain I could get it done before the writer's workshop application deadline.

*I know, that's not a lot - barely over a page a week. But I don't want to make a promise I can't keep.

>>87435585
What is the plot to this comic? I never know what the fuck is going on.

>>87383761
I (and probably many more) would greatly prefer you keep the anthros if you can, they look very nice.

Discussion prompt bump: Is getting a more expensive tablet really worth it over a cheaper or middle of the line one? What are the benefits for spending more than fifty bucks on one? Placebo effect in that having a several hundred dollar tablet makes you 'feel' like a better artist is an acceptable answer.

>>87443590
Only if you know you're good enough to make good use of it. A good tablet is certainly not going to make you a better artist.

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In today's comic, Tuler uses her psychic powers to attack Lord Remington.

http://zyxcity.tumblr.com/

>>87443590
Caveat: I have not watched this video, but it might possibly be useful:
http://www.ctrlpaint.com/videos/tablets-compared
(Also - check out the rest of the site for tutorials on digital art)

I started off using a cheap tablet which was fine while I was getting used to it, but a few years down the line it didn't work with a program that I wanted to use (I took that as a sign to upgrade to a Wacom).

The support and compatibility of a tablet are also factors to consider. It might be a false economy to get a cheap tablet that ends up being incompatible with newer programs and updates whereas a tablet from a reliable brand may have better driver support.

Make a short list of possible purchases and look up some consumer reviews.

>>87444415
Not to sound weird, but she's kinda hot.

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WIP of the next comic!

>>87436918
yeah dude, I'm bringin' all the good shit from old anime back.
>>87440390
no authentic variation available, like trolloc or something?
>>87441555
yeah can't blame you there, none of it makes sense without the preceding. Maybe I should have been doing recaps all this time, like Forming has.
Right now they have been on a quest in Hell tracking their most persistent enemy, whose plot we've gotten snippets of for a while now, and figuring they'd just stumble into some do-gooding as usual.. but this time the NPC that guided them was another old villain in disguise, and egged them into breaking the seal on someone else's final boss from way back.. but they have one of the original heroes that defeated her on their side, along with this angel they accidentally trapped in there the last time they visited Hell, so right now "the plot" is going to be finding out what the fuck Doofenshmirtz is up to and putting a stop to it, Agent P.
>>87445015
huh. isn't she full of pig's blood?

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>>87445015
Cool stuff!

>>87444517
Not that anon, but why would that be weird? Having someone be aroused by something you've drawn is one of the highest compliments.

>>87445108
>no authentic variation available, like trolloc or something?
None that make sense to a modern English reader, I don't think. The closest thing I can find to a generic word for "monster" is óvættr, "un-being" or "un-wight", "un-spirit", but nobody would go "oh, a monster" if I put that in the comic. "Troll-beast" runs into the problem of modern English associating the word "troll" with a specific type of big hairy humanoid supernatural being, rather than being a catch-all term for supernatural bullshit (for instance, all the Scandinavian languages' word for "sorceror" translates literally into "troll-man").

I think I might end up calling it a Hel-wight (in my mind a translation of Helvættr, "hel-being", since it snuck in from neighboring Hel), which, while not a historical term that I know of, sounds appropriately ominous while remaining unspecific enough that people won't know what to expect. Maybe "Hel-thing" to avoid too much connotation with the undead.

>>87440390
I could totally do that. Conan-esque sword & sorcery cool?

>>87445108
Well, she's only part pig, and he needs pure pig blood.

He probably doesn't even know she's part pig.

>>87445706
oh I see, so you're really trying to say youkai here. yeah that is tricky, we don't really have good terms for that, only crummy ones.

>>87445709
Muscle-man anatomy really isn't my strong point, so maybe a protagonist looking more like a knight-errant, or Guts, or Elric, than Frazetta's Conan. But aside from that yeah, S&S is fine.
Here's my mail btw: 595158825(at)mail.com

>>87445900
Well, "monster" would work fine if I didn't feel like it felt too modern. Honestly, one of the really nice things about writing in English is the incredibly diverse vocabulary it's stolen from other languages.

man, Sree-durra, you 'round? I wanna talk about that comic you posted on your blog.
>>87446116
yeah exactly. this is one of the rare blind spots we have. and even then it's a luxurious one, since it's merely not having a word with the right TONE

bewmp

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Bump.

>>87448543
wanna pet that cat
possibly even moreso than the blue one from earlier, though that one was blue

>>87448601
Yeah, they're adorable little furballs. Way more fun to get reference of than the corpses that last chapter was full of. Though, living with a pair of cats that are only about half as fluffy as a purebred forest cat, I gotta say it's somewhat balanced IRL by the extra amounts of water, mud, leaves and snow they carry indoors in bad weather.

>>87449862
bump the sequel

>>87450849
Return of the Bump

>>87449862
Bump: The Reboot

>>87449862
Reply: A Bump Story

Any tips for color blind artists? I can never get brown especially to look right. Every rgb code I look up looks way too red to me. Would it be better if I go with what I think is right based on color matching and codes and such, or should I go with what I see even if it makes my comics look "wrong?"

>>87452406
You could try looking up images of things that are the right color and seeing how they relate to other things in the image.

>Would it be better if I go with what I think is right based on color matching and codes and such, or should I go with what I see even if it makes my comics look "wrong?"
This would be a lot easier to answer if you could show examples of the results of both methods.

>>87452406
I'm not sure quite how colorblind you are, but the thing is.. brown is mostly an illusion. those of us with all three cone cells have trouble distinguishing between red, orange, and yellow once they become dark and desaturated. any and all of them can qualify as brown. a dark yellow is more 'bronze' while a dark red is more 'mahogany' but most of the time you want dark orange. dark orange gives you the basic 'chocolate / feces / black people / brunette hair / cartoon tree trunk' brown. you don't even have to desaturated it most of the time.

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>>87452543
Please be gentle, just whipped this up with the brush so you could get a sense of where my problem areas are specifically. It's actually the first art I've posted online. Try and guess which is which Top is what looks right to me, bottom was made using rgb codes from the internet for Dark Brown and Meadow Green On the bottom, the grass almost looks orange and the tree looks more maroon or maybe burgundy than anything

>>87452926
I dunno where you're getting your RGB codes from. in the future it's a better idea to just eyedrop directly from a picture. because what I see at the top is dark olive green, and at the bottom is bright salmon pink
the grass at the top is somewhat yellowish dry-ish grass, the grass on the bottom is cartoonishly oversaturated green grass like i use in my comic often