Bendis BTFO Again, Batman takes the top two (and pops up in

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>This week, we had a Marvel super hero book in our top ten, and it wasn’t even a first issue, with Amazing Spider-Man 20 at spot number 6. The first five spots were Batman, Trinity, Justice League, DKIII and Superman. I am surprised we’re not selling more Death Of X, Deadpool: Back In Black, or Harley Quinn. Infamous Iron Man 1 was our 17th bestseller so far this week, tied with A-Force (which was just cancelled), so it’s not off to a great start. This makes me wish I had cut my Riri 1 orders last week when I had the chance.

>Harley’s numbers are about the same as before Rebirth, which are strong numbers, but that means HQ is equal or behind Aquaman and Nightwing by the first week’s sales (although HQ has a long tail well beyond week one or two), so it seems like it’s not as strong as it was pre-Rebirth, where those sales use to be the exception, not the rule. I can’t really complain about the whole Rebirth line being lifted. I thought the Monster Men crossover was pretty bad overall, but it didn’t seem to hurt sales on Batman or Nightwing so far, so I have faith these next arcs should be better. I Am Suicide is off to a good start for Batman and Michael Janin’s art is incredible.

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>We’re selling lots of Walking Dead, especially issue 100 with Negan’s first appearance and the whole Something To Fear arc. And it’s only going to get crazier this weekend with the return of Walking Dead and Negan showing people how crazy he really is on Sunday night. We are selling lots of Batman from the 1990s to the 2010s, and a decent amount of Uncanny X-Men, Generation X and older X-books. I didn’t know how much some of the Adam Hughes Catwoman covers are going for (over $100) on eBay for a few of them. Some of those we’ve sold for cover price or not much over in the recent past, but we have most of our 400 long boxes of back issues at barely over cover price, so we don’t update our pricing too often unless we’re sorting a new collection, which is what happened in this case. Still selling lots of Rebirth from the Rebirth issue and up, especially Batman, Detective and Action.

>Marvel’s biggest post-Civil War II launch this far manages to lurch into eighth place on the store’s sales charts this week–but at least Marvel managed to place one Marvel Universe title in the charts. Otherwise Marvel sales were dismal, falling behind every Rebirth title on the charts. Here’s hoping that Marvel can find editorial/publishing talent with enough savvy to restore the company to their former glory…

>Renewed interest in pre-Flashpoint Nightwing and Robin…

>Not the week i thought it would be.Dark Knight III did well, but it did slip in copies moved. Infamous Iron Man did much better than expected and was actually a good read.The problem is that customers now know the end of Civil War and i will have to drop the numbers before it is too late.I like to try as positive as possible, however this is the second event title in a row that has not hit deadlines and had new titles start that give away story plot…if this does not bother Marvel then why was Star Wars”Classified”for December in the Previews.Might want to tell the editorial staff that they might want to dust of the old resume…or does Marvel accept poor work ethic from top to bottom in this company.

>People do complain about the writing on Batman but still buy the heck out of it giving it the top spot. And wow, the gap between DC and Marvel sales has grown. Marvel’s various recent new first issues are not popular. Infamous Iron Man didn’t even make it into our top ten. Now Solo, Now Power Man, Now Champions, look to have no legs sales wise. I am stunned. In the years we have been open I have never seen such a lack of excitement by the readership for Marvel. It is something we need Marvel to address and correct ASAP.

>Little bit of everything sold this week on the back-issue market. I actually think that customers were just trying to find cover art that was appealing from all companies and titles.

>I was sort of surprised that Kiss #1 made it to the top 10. I felt we over ordered. Mike, the owner, stuck by his guns. Looks like we’ll be sold out of our hefty order byMonday! Also, I don’t recognize a lot of these people. Kiss fans AND comics fans unite! It’s good to be wrong sometimes.

>Speaking of Dynamite, Betty Boop continues to move. We’re on our 2nd reorder. Granted, we ordered modestly considering the esoteric nature of the book, but parents and art students keep scooping it up. It’s good to be wrong sometimes. (I’m making a habit of it.)

>Another great week for new comic sales all because of balance. Marvel showed up again with 4 books in the top ten, And what were the books.. core Marvel characters… Iron Man, Spider-Man, Doctor Strange and the X-Men. So see Marvel, why we have had DC dominance over the past 5 months is because they went back to basic, strengthen their core characters and developed a 2 year plan (reducing their price point didn’t hurt). This week proved that Marvel could have the same success if they do the same. So no more Solo’s and Mosaic’s (back up characters at best), we need more focused core character books.

>Another good week for sales and next week looks to be even bigger. Not too much to comment on with this list. What you’d expect to sell well sold well. Only BigTwo books on the list with DC edging out Marvel 6-4. Of DC’s charting books Superman, at number nine on the list, is the only one without a Batman connection. All things Iron Man have officially overtaken Spider-Man as our biggest Marvel sellers. Infamous #1 outsold ASM #20 but not by much. Black Panther continues its dependable sales, though not too much chatter about it. Good, solid, unsurprising week.

>Most disappointing #1 of the week goes to Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye. Cautiously ordering on Young Animal may have been a better tact than the optimistic ordering we made.

Poor DC

>Batman #9 actually felt like an issue written by Tom King. Crazy that it took 9 issues. Big week with lots of interest in LOTS of books.

>Strange Tales #110 sold this week (surprise!) – plus your usual Spider-Man #300, and other silver/bronze keys.

http://archive.is/UmvIX

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>2. DK3
fuck everything

Well done once again to DC!

Rebirth continues their strong sales after 4 months from the relaunch, and with most series arriving to #8-#9 in numbering. Good work. DC is being praised for bring back quality, iconic characters and new talent to the books, without crap events or pandering some groups. Hopefully Marvel will follow.

>>87169526
9 issues in and Superman still in the top 10? Holy fuck, maybe he could actually stay consistently in the top 10 this time?

>>87169947
It's sales of the week though, not of the month.

>>87169526
And finally much of the readership understand how shit Bendis is, and turned their back to him. Perhaps Marvel will contain him to lesser titles from now on.

>>87169585
>People do complain about the writing on Batman
Interesting..

>>87170062
King is miles better than Snyder though

>>87169603
The first issue of Kiss was actually pretty promising. I'm glad to hear it's of to a decent start, even if the source isn't reliable and first issue sales even less so.

>>87169947
>06/2016: Rebirth #1 -- 130,277 (+115.7%) [138,031]
>06/2016: Superman #1 -- 115,918 (- 4.3%) [132,050]
>07/2016: Superman #2 -- 112,148 (- 15.1%)
>07/2016: Superman #3 -- 107,367 (- 4.3%)
>08/2016: Superman #4 -- 96,969 (- 9.7%)
>08/2016: Superman #5 -- 89,473 (- 7.7%)
>SUPERMAN #6 (DC) - 76,124
>SUPERMAN #7 (DC) - 72,867

>06/2016: Action Comics #957 -- 82,884 (+136.1%) [95,893]
>06/2016: Action Comics #958 -- 83,227 (- 4.6%) [91,462]
>07/2016: Action Comics #959 -- 91,671 (+ 0.2%)
>07/2016: Action Comics #960 -- 83,281 (- 9.2%)
>08/2016: Action Comics #961 -- 79,003 (- 5.1%)
>08/2016: Action Comics #962 -- 70,761 (- 10.4%)
>ACTION COMICS #963 [*] (DC) - 60,824
>ACTION COMICS #964 (DC) - 58,439
Lel no. Even Flash is outselling it. Don't matter the quality, Superman isn't going to sell more than 50k, no matter which version of the character it is. And this is a bigger drop for Superman than new 52 relaunch. Superman in the end is going to settle around 45-50k and Action 35-40k.

>>87170090
I think they're both great

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HOPE EVERLASTING

>>87170090
Keep telling yourself that.

>>87169551
>Surprised of not selling more of Death of X.

Well, that would be because nobody wants to read about Cyclops doing stupid OOC things by stupid shitty hack writers and a shitty artest!

>>87169526
Bendis BTFO?

>>87170194
I had no idea people are still being BTFO.

>>87170062
Duke and Harper row.

>>87170179
You are understimating the X-fags: Marvel's editorial could rape their families and burn their houses, but they would still buy X-Men

>>87170257
nah according to the last x-men threads

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>>87170164
stop

>>87169585
>>People do complain about the writing on Batman but still buy the heck out of it giving it the top spot.
People hate King and Snyders OC cancer.

>>87170366
But he is right

>>87170366
How do you stop hope?

>>87170366
He's memeing.

Why you faggots care so much about this bald fuck. Better question why you fuckers still care about Marvel so much. If Bendis stays forever who the fuck cares, you think someone better will magically appear or that your favorite writer will instantly get the top bill after he leaves, they won't. Even if Bendis sells like shit, Marvel will never give up on him because Quesada, Alonso and Brevoort are his good friends and they love his loyalty to the company. Besides Marvel has found the formula to deal with bad sales and that's called relaunches. It somehow works for Squirrel Girl or Captain Marvel (according to Marvel which is the only opinión that matters) and will work for Bendis if he ever needs it. The only thing you can look forward is his retirement, of course that's not going to help much either because he will probably stay working at the company in some important capacity and all the writers of his team will continue enforcing his work.

Seriously, this threads are cancer because the anti Bendis behave like autists and fall for all the trolling/pasta/shitposting over and over again. I'm sure they all (including Bendis if he ever comes here) laugh their asses off their chair while reading these shits. It's pitiful.

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>>87170369
>I represent all people

>>87169585
Snyder and company need to be kicked off the Bat-Books and soon. They're wrecking the entire line.

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>>87169585
>Infamous Iron Man
>was actually a good read

>>87170406
Brevoort, Alonso and Quesada are the major problem i agree. But Bendis is part of this problem, because he is part of this group.

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>>87169585
>And wow, the gap between DC and Marvel sales has grown. Marvel’s various recent new first issues are not popular. Infamous Iron Man didn’t even make it into our top ten. Now Solo, Now Power Man, Now Champions, look to have no legs sales wise. I am stunned. In the years we have been open I have never seen such a lack of excitement by the readership for Marvel.

>>87170460
Lol yeah. It was the usual Bendis crap. If someone has read one Bendis's book, basically has read everything from Bendis, since all his characters have the same voice more or less.

>>87170516
>F4 with Marlel
You're slipping, Kelly.

>>87170553
You're /tv/, anon.

>>87170419
Snyder is pretty much the big boss of Batman now. What he says goes.

>>87170634
It's already showing in that James Tynion seems to have gotten his high profile gigs due to being a student of Snyder .

>>87170634

Can't he go work his "magic" on some B-lister? There's a new (better) writer on Batman he should fuck off. He's written like 80 issues total about the character. It's like he's obsessed with getting his fingerprints over every single villain of importance.

>>87170662
>>87170705
>Marvel is fucked as usual
>MUST USE ANTI-DC MEMES!
Don't forget the pastas.

>>87170743
Please. Snyder's Batman is Ultimatum level of awfulness. Bendis' rape of X-Men/Iron Man/Guardians of the Galaxy/Avengers is nothing compared to Snyder.

>>87170743

I'm excited to see Marvel crash and burn as much as anyone else I just want their so-called superstar writer to work on characters that could use it, rather than pump out another year of Batman books with too many narration boxes and historical fun facts.

>>87170779
This.Pretty much what everyone has said here.

>>87170779
Not even close. Bendis is actually destroying franchises.

>>87170779
Duke.this guy is just BOOOORINNNNNNNNNNG. Plz, plz DC pull the plug on this crap, if Snyder wants to write him then fine but stop Snyder from imposing him on the other books and events, stop trying to feed this delusion that he's the next big thing.

>>87170849
Snyder's Batman is Bendis house of m.

>>87170779
>>87170870
>this delusion
Newfags act like this is the first bad Batman run ever.

>>87170870
House of M is nothing compare to Bendis's X-Men and GotG. Trust me.

>>87170779
>>87170808
>>87170773
>>87170851
I love it when I'm right about DC haters.

>>87170954
I love it when I'm right about company war faggots. Back to >>>/tv/ with you.

>>87170982
You first, "DC fan."

I know everyone wishes that DC dominated the market share will spell the end for Bendis and Slott, but it will only make them strong. When they're books are amongst the best selling of the Marvel books, they'll only be rewarded with more power.

>>87170419
>Snyder and company
So King and Seeley too? I agree with this sentiment.

>>87171061
Than these are bad news for both Marvel and the industry. At any case there was once a time that Bendis/Slott's sales have been much, much higher. Watching at least the tide turning, it's refreshing and an indication that the readership can't stand their shit for longer. So as long as less comic book readers buying their books every time, more the message would be loud for Marvel.

>>87169603
>So no more Solo’s and Mosaic’s (back up characters at best), we need more focused core character books.
I really DC's output right now, but I hate this mentality from comics fans.

>Nothing new ever, no new characters, just keep telling me the same stories for decades because those are the same characters I read when I was a kid

>>87171142
Good try drone. You are so butthurt that bot became DC exclusives that you can't even hide that your a shill anymore. Go back now to your mouse bosses. By the way Seeley is awesome.

>>87169624
>Cave Carson Has a Cybernetic Eye

I feel like most of the Young Animal stuff will sell more in trade and have some legs there. DC should realize that since they are marketing it as a lighter version of the old Vertigo.

>>87171244
Lol no, I was commenting to the guy who said Snyder and company which includes both Seeley and King. I'm immensely enjoying Bat line, last time it was this good was when Morrison was on Batman and Robin, Snyder on Tec and we had cool Stephanie and Red Robin solos.

>>87171008
I'm pretty sure I've read more DC stuff than you have, newfag.

>>87171400
Prove it.

>>87171428
How

>>87171500
Exactly.

>>87171428
Well, for started I don't engage in dumbass company wars like the stupid newfag you are.

>>87171573
Despite
>>87170773
>>87170705
>>87170779
?

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>>87171636
Right.

>>87171716
>no Gimp
Try again.

>>87171716
>Photoshoping just to prove you didn't samefag
How pathetic.

>>87171751
>>87171761
>not looking at time tags
>implying those are company war-tier posts in the first place anyway

>>87170366
wow so butthurt over one image

>>87170164
dont stop, didioman is my favorite meme

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>>87169526
It's also very hilarious seeing how Spencer is defending Marvel's fauling tactics and peoole liking Rebirth more as them "rejecting diversity"

>>87169526
Stop killing Marvel /co/

>>87171992
I knew this guy was a hipster faggot despite /co/ recommending his books.

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>>87171992
I also find funny bow he spins shit to make Marvel look nore favorable, the guy is a politician after all.

>>87172027
he's a complete tool as a person but he writes some decent comics

>>87172027
I enjoy The Fix, but I also would enjoy kicking Spencer. You have to separate the product and the person

>>87172042
Nah, he's an intern at this point.

>>87172059
>>87172085
Spencer pls

>>87171238
They're not wrong, but in a different way.

Superdad still going strong. Feels good. Title has only gotten better since they got over the Eradicator arc.

>>87172042
>using variants to keep more standard copies on the shelf

my sides are in orbit

>>87172042
Jesus, give him that shitty Supergirl book so he stop whining.

>>87172101
I don't think Spencer would be caught dead on 4chan

>>87172027
Sometimes you have to remember people can create decent stuff but be massive faggots. Or the other way around.

Just appreciate the work when you can.
>>87172134
Is supergirl bad right now? I was hoping it would be at least enjoyable. I only read the rebrith one shot.

>>87169526
WHY ARE PEOPLE BUYING CLONE CONSPIRACY SHIT
this just shows marvel that these shitty events sell well and they'll keep doing more of them

>>87172139
He'd be torn a new one.

>>87172134
He wants to write her?

>>87172148
>people can create decent stuff but be massive faggots
Wrong. Every creation is autobiographical.

>>87172027
He is a politician and has actually worked in the White House, and like any politician knows how to spin shit and make it sound appealing to their target audiencr who don't know better.

If he was working for DC he would have shit talked Marvel and would have tried to make DC look better.

He already showed he is also capable of writing evil Liberal terrorists (Green Skull and Flagsmasher) and a decent conservative hero (US Agent) but the man is a democrat and Hillbot so he will spin things in her favor and spout shit that people who follow her want to hear.

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>>87172042
>Rebirth is conservative you guise!

>>87172148
>Is supergirl bad right now? I was hoping it would be at least enjoyable. I only read the rebrith one shot.
No idea. I didn't see anyone praise her, anyway. Or I didn't look hard enough.
>>87172161
>He wants to write her?
Reason why he's at Marlel is because he was supposed to write Supergirl, then New 52 happened and he was removed.

>>87170419
Snyder is Jay Leno. They both get undeserved praise and are equally clingy.

>>87172168
>He is a politician and has actually worked in the White House
So that's why he's working for a company that supports Trump. Hmmm...
>If he was working for DC he would have shit talked Marvel and would have tried to make DC look better.
DC doesn't let creators do that, anon. They know better than engaging in shit-flinging, unlike Marvel.

>>87172213
jesus fucking christ

>>87169526
I have a big question about black panther: does it have any connection with CII whatsoever?

>>87172328
>still trying this hard

>>87172213
Why would this be a bad thing? If they're bringing back things that work and people enjoy, what's the problem? I'm not sure what he means by conservative because right now DC are making books like Midnighter and Apollo with a several other minis, Hanna Barbara, and Young Animals. The first has a page showing the two fucking.

>>87172365
No.

>>87172378
Other question: is it good? Does have the nu-marvel vibe in it? I might read it, I like Black Panther.

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>>87172373
>The first has a page showing the two fucking.
Welp, time to start reading that book.

>>87172373
>Why would this be a bad thing? If they're bringing back things that work and people enjoy, what's the problem?
Bringing back old things is bad in Marvels eyes, they want all new, all diverse, characters leading the charge, anything short of that is evil, right-wing, white man stuff.

>>87172415
Well it's not explicit, but it's pretty clear. It's only one issue in but so far I like it.

>>87172411
It's ok, the first several issues make it very clear Coates is still trying to find his footing with comics writing

>>87172213
>in b4 /co/ act like what he's saying isn't true

>>87169526
>3 in the top 10
Marvel is gaining ground. Soon they shall retake their top spot

>>87172373
I honestly like this approach. Using separate imprints for the experimental titles allow the creators to have more freedom and don't worry about sale.
Also DC capes right now are mostly average to good with just a few bad titles

>>87172446
It's OK, I like to use imagination when I fap.

>>87172411
No, it's not good.

>>87172411
If you want good just read priest's run instead
I'm reading coates bp and it's just in the middle of the road

>>87172411
It shows our hero beating on white cops. So draw your own conclusions.

>>87172462
X-fags are here to save the day. And probably Spider-marriagefags, if they're in numbers they like to claim they are.

>>87172524
>X-fags
I'll be honest, I'll be giving 6 of the 7 new books a buy, for the first arc at least.

>>87171992
>>87172042
>>87172213
haha spencer on suicide watch

>>87172564
>I'll be giving 6 of the 7 books a buy
>a buy
>comics with no creative team
You are the cancer killing the comic book industry.

>>87172564
Do they have any writers or artists on them yet?

>>87172627
No, just some mashed-up covers.

>>87172564
No one had a doubt about that. We all know you X-fags will always come back when Marvel calls you.
I would give you the number of a good therapist, but we both know you would pretend Emma Frost is more qualified

>>87172572
I wonder what his writing will be like if Trump wins the election

>>87172627
No, but unless they're really bad, I'll still give them a try.

>>87172669
I'm actually buying All-New Wolverine and Uncanny X-Men right now, you people are just too damn picky.

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>>87172676
Trump is Number One of Secret Empire. Fittingly, just in time for mandatory rehash.

>>87172213
Spencer, let's talk again when Marlel is doing something as creative as YA, Hannah Barbera or Wildstorm all at the same time while pushing genuine diversity with the mainline. And let's not forget all the 6 issue miniseries like Middy and Apollo, Deadman, Vigilante, Six-pack and Crew and 3 other that I'm forgetting.

>>87172676
It'll some how be even more insufferable.
I would love to see him freaking on twitter about it though.

>>87172718
All New Wolverine is just meh with a main character being out of character. Old Man Logan is the only good X-book. And for this reason is the highest selling X-book.

>>87172808
Never? DC has always had a more diverse line up and creatively has produced the better more ambitious work for the past 30 years.

>>87172330
>So that's why he's working for a company that supports Trump. Hmmm...
Que?

>>87172462
It was the same two weeks Mouseketeer.

>>87172876
Have you been living in a cave? The Marvel CEO gave a million to Trump last year.

>>87172861
That's the point. Like this guy likes to get all High and mighty and Marvel couldn't even afford to get an LGBTQ title on the shelves all these years.

>>87172514
So great then.

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>>87171992
Stay mad, Spencer.

>>87172514
>It shows our hero beating on white cops
But hasn't it been black cops that have been... never mind.

>>87172876
Great. Another political thread. Take your /po/ crap and go the fuck out of here propagandist. These threads are about comics.

>>87172905
What is Captain Marvel? xD

>>87172213
>>87172042
>>87171992
Anybody got the screenshot where he says that the Marvel sales are okay because they didn't change much?

>>87171238
>Nothing new ever, no new characters, just keep telling me the same stories for decades because those are the same characters I read when I was a kid.

I agree that type of mentality is bad, but the problem isn't the new characters, but the fact that the Marvel offering is kind of random.

It's different when a character on a core book becomes popular and, somehow, justifies a spin-off. That's more organic than, for example, the Inhumans push. I don't remember popular demand of that characters, Marvel just decided they were to make them more popular, even if nobody gave a fuck about them

>>87172940
How is that /pol? It's just pointing out how big of a joke Spencer is.

>>87172808
All Marlel writers are hacks. What you expected? Just don't read their books.

>>87169585
>People do complain about the writing on Batman
?

>>87172905
They couldn't even commit to stating that Angela was a lgbtalqaeda+ book.

>>87172894
>Have you been living in a cave? The Marvel CEO gave a million to Trump last year.
Perlmutter?

>>87173093
Perlmutter, yes.

>>87171238
New characters have it harder to break in today than in the 70's because, yeah, nostalgiafaggotry. And they also had nostalgiafaggotry back then too but it's bigger today.

But if Marvel and DC market them like crazy and pay others to shill them then there is a chance that the fans will eventually accept them.

Worked for Kamala at least.

>>87173149
As in Ike Perlmutter?

>>87172972
I like Spencer aside from his politics. He's a good writer that's not being utilized well by Marvel. He'd be actually a way better choice for something like Champions because he knows how to make something fun.

>>87173185
Nostalgia fucks?

Those characters are almost a century, and they are iconic to generations. They have earned their place to millions of people's minds and hearts.

Marvel and DC must start from them first the marketing. Because those characters make them great, and brought them.

New characters should have to earn their place with good stories, not with matketing gimmicks, SJW's pandering or trying to pushee them down to the throat's readership. If they are food characters then alright. If not to hell with them.

>>87173221
Ike Perlmutter? The Marvel CEO?

>>87171238
>>87173185
You know, I also hate this /co/ mentality. Why create a new character for DC and Marvel? you won't own him anyway and when you end up creating a masterpiece like America Chavez(top lel) like Joe Casey did you'll end up regretting it anyway. Just dig up some obscure character and put a new spin on it. Some of my favorite characters are like that, Swamp Thing, Animal man, Shade...

But so many people are obsessed with the status quo and with events and with relationships between other charters that it's saddening. yes, a shared universe can be used to your advantage, but don't overdo it. If you ask half of The Atom's fans on /co/ to characterize him they'll just go "um...Uh...Um, he ...he shrinks and...um...he's pals with Hawkm-man!"

>>87173317
>He's a good writer
My ass he is. You just like him because he puts memes in his comics.

>>87172213
>boo hoo DC is fascist because they don't let me write Supergirl!

>>87172042
Wow, what a company man. I can't take anything he says seriously when he's also saying shit like this.

>>87172452
If we're talking gender and ethnicity
>Apollo and Midnighter
>New Super-Man
>Superwoman
>Green Lanterns

If we're talking genre and story
>Young Animal
>Hanna Barbera
>Hard Travelling Heroz
>Deadman: Mansion of Forbidden Love

These shit don't sell real well so they're propped up by books that actually sell

>>87172042
>It's totally ok for LCS to not sell their orders because then they'll have them for the bargain bins rite guys?
It's a fucking shitty tactic that causes a lot of shops to close down due to caving in to collectors who buy these covers. If it was fucking DC I bet this cuck will be up in arms how they're generating fake sales

>>87172148
>Is supergirl bad right now?
I'm enjoying it but objectively I'd say it's closer to okay than anything amazing so far.

>>87171992
WHERE'S BEDLAM SPENCER

>>87173643
Shut up. Buy Captain America: Sam WIlson.

>>87173491
DC really needs to get Milestone up and running quicker. Would love to hear guys like Spencer comment on that when it finally happens.

>>87173670
>oh, they're just doing it for brownie points, they're not selfless and caring like Marvel

>>87172042
Marvel's big successful stories since 2001? I hope he's not talking about all the events.

>>87173700
he's talking about all the events

although there are a few great runs from that time period, but I doubt he'd cite those

>>87173697
>Segregating a whole universe of minorities? DC really is the Trump of comics! Vote Hilary #IStandWithHer

>>87173942
kek, yes. And he'll conveniently forget Wildstorm characters are in ghetto as well.

Who's the biggest tool on twitter when it comes to comics? I'm betting either Mark Waid or Spencer.

>>87174048
Dobson.

>>87174048
Someone from Marvel, for sure.

>>87172944
Found the tweet.

https://twitter.com/nickspencer/status/777657366196006912

>If my book sold 30k last month and was ranked 40th, then sells 30k this month and is ranked 50th...nothing happened to my book.

This is true, that means it's stable. And from the look of things it might've gained 1000 copies in preorders.

This was Falcon's sales pre-Secret Wars:

11/14 Captain America v8 #1 –120,500 ( 62.4%)
12/14 Captain America v8 #2 – 50,077 ( -58.4%)
01/15 Captain America v8 #3 - 50,045 ( -0.1%)
02/15 Captain America v8 #4 - 41,222 (-17.6%)
03/15 Captain America v8 #5 - 38,871 (- 5.7%)
04/15 Captain America v8 #6 - 38,199 (- 1.7%)

This is Steve's sales this year:

05/16 Cap America SR #1 -140,222
06/16 Cap America SR #2 - 74,884
07/16 Cap America SR #3 - 65,455 (-12.6%)
08/16 Cap America SR #4 - 49,559 (-24.3%) (CV 2)
09/16 Cap America SR #5 - 50,536

What he's saying in his tweet sounds good until you remember that Hydra Cap had gotten a lot of attention in the news and on Twitter. Remember that Brevoort said that angry readers means their comics are selling? If the best they can do is "marginally better than the previous series" then there's a problem here.

For comparison: Sales on Brubaker's Cap around the time Steve was going to come back:

07/08 Captain America #40 - 79,317 ( -0.0%)
08/08 Captain America #41 - 85,035 ( +7.2%)
09/08 Captain America #42 - 75,574 ( -11.1%)
10/08 Captain America #43 - 72,405 ( -4.2%)
11/08 Captain America #44 - 75,493 ( +4.3%)
12/08 Captain America #45 - 71,186 ( -5.7%)
01/09 Captain America #46 - 73,184 ( +2.8%)
02/09 Captain America #47 - 62,850 ( -14.1%)
03/09 Captain America #48 - 62,108 ( -1.2%)
04/09 Captain America #49 - 63,874 ( +2.8%)
05/09 Captain America #50 - 72,708 ( +13.8%)
06/09 Captain America #600 - 123,152 ( +69.4%)
07/09 Captain America #601 - 87,844 ( -28.7%)

>>87174299
How is Sam Wilson selling?

>>87174672
low-mid 30k

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>>87169526
>nobody wants to read Slott
>nobody wants to read another Clone Saga

>>87175104
I don't but Normies unfortunatly do.

I just pray to god that Spider-Man Renew Your Vows sells. Because if that book fails, you can kiss any chance of married Peter ever again (also Marvel will keep shittimg on MJ).

Although knowing my luck with Books I love, it probably will bomb sadly...

>>87175104
Even better
>don't want to read Clone Saga
>will buy issue because I'M BUYING EVERY SPIDER-MAN FOR THE LAST THIRTY YEARS, FUCK YOU

>>87172213
Not even SJWs think Marvel is more liberal than DC nowadays.

>>87175570
>I'M BUYING EVERY SPIDER-MAN FOR THE LAST THIRTY YEARS, FUCK YOU
Good goy.

>>87175515
I think that sale numbers can neither help nor harm said chances. The very fact that it's happening in an AU is like saying "this is the closest you'll get to what you want, now quit whining"

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>>87169526
Aren't we supposed to be in the middle of the Marvel NOW hype train?
What the fuck is going on?

>>87172042
>Literally it's ok when Marvel does it
What a faggot.

>>87171992
The irony being DC still has more diversity than Marvel.

>>87170004
Is Bendisposting going to branch off from /co/ and soon across other websites?

>>87170164
I'm starting to feel skeptical if they can keep the momentum and comics will be saved

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>>87176176
Marvel is just pumping out comic book AIDs right now. They've maid X-Books suffer from Bendis and then Inhuman trash.

They've been shoving diversity down our throats instead of letting it happen naturally. Kamala Khan and Miles Morales are fun characters, but they sadly get lumped in with Riri in Iron Man and other weird token character changes. Falcon is another one that would be fine if it was also paired with Thor being a female cancer patient for some reason. It's like they think fans only like these characters for their names and not who they are.

They're rehashing old stories to make you excited because if what they meant to you, but they don't have the same impact and are written half-assed. Civil War II should be a big deal if your using the name of the previous comic, not a gimmic movie tye-in. Alias is comic back as Jessica Jones and Old Man Logan is back. It's just trying to capture lightening in a bottle.

And Bendis. Fucking Brian Michael Bendis. The man who can pump out whatever and Marvel will eat it up. I doubt he has strict editors. I doubt even he remembers his own character continuity. Is dialogue is bad. He doesn't get characters expect his own and he doesn't write in anyway that comes of as deep or meaningful. It's all surface with zero substance. But he's Marvel's poster boy so that won't change until he bombs. Hopefully CW2 is a wakeup call.

But hypster marvel writers will just see this as the ramblings of a man-child who needs to level his basement and stop spouting white nationalist hate speech.

>>87176789
I think they're doing good but I have heard the momentum is dipping some. At the same time, though, Marvel has not done enough to counter it, so it's in a worse state than it was in 2011/early 2012 when the New 52 was going on--they at least had Marvel Now and AvX to boost them up.

Like it or not most people are characterfags so it's unsurprising that Marvel Now(er)'s launch isn't doing that well when it's mostly literally who's, Clone Saga 2.0, and an X-book that's actually trying to shill the Inhumans.

Compare that to Rebirth, which has some new/niche titles like New Superman and Blue Beetle, but also has a strong core of A-list/top tier B-lister books.

>>87173356
I was going to say that they should just get a C or Z lister and reinvigorate and update them, that would be a good way to make something new without giving the big companies your ideas.

Marvel is also kind of doing that with Foolkiller, Solo, and Slapstick but DESU giving them solos is not the way to go, they were good as a team.

I mean it's how Iron Fist and Cage survived, together.

DC has tried many things but they never stick.

Face it, if they don't have a movie or become popular most comic readers won't touch them just look at GotG although Bendis slowly killed the hyped for a lot of people (yet still sold better than DnA despite being shittier).

That said writers and artist use DC and Marvel to make a name for themselves but yeah never give them your best ideas.

>>87169585
>People do complain about the writing on Batman
Because most Batman readers are casual as fuck. Hell, you only need to look at the Batman story times to know how fucking stupid some Bat fans are.

>>87178375
>DC has tried many things but they never stick.
>if they don't have a movie or become popular most comic readers won't touch them
Back to /tv/ with you.

>>87178418
Lol like GotG was popular before the movie right? Most readers didn't care until they heard it was going to be a movie and you also missed the "I just saw ____ movie/show what comics should I read?"

I guess the exception are waifufags.

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>>87178524
>everyone is a casual like me

>>87178375
Iron Fist should break off from Luke Cage, their dynamic is a relic and the whole mystic side of Kun'Lun and the martial arts can be further explored. I think there's a lot of potential there.

>>87178375
C-lister books aren't supposed to have really long runs. I'm not sure what you mean by "never stick" but DC's had a bunch that managed to last over 20 issues and reach a conclusion.

As for improving a minor character's popularity, it takes more time than that. Marvel tried to push Carol too fast and it's not panning out as a result.

>>87178682
He baiting, anon.

>>87169551
>HQ is equal or behind Aquaman and Nightwing
Go Mera!

>>87172996

Damian fags. At least that's my assumption. They're probably the most insufferable characterfags out there. As far as they're concerned if Damian isn't front and center of EVERY. SINGLE. Batbook then Snyder, and now King are terrible writers.

I even like Damian as a character and have always enjoyed him, but I like Robins to be used sparingly in Batman.

As far as Rebirth is concerend I didn't overly enjoy I Am Gotham, though I do like what it's building; Night of the Monster Men was a crossover so I only read the Batman books, not the Nightwing/Detective Comics books so I dunno; but the first part of I am Suicide has me super-duper excited. Also, apparently this is going to be the arc to introduce the post revelation Joker/s.

>>87178677
They weren't together in "The Immortal Iron Fist", and that was great.

>>87170779
>Snyder's Batman is Ultimatum level of awfulness. Bendis' rape of X-Men/Iron Man/Guardians of the Galaxy/Avengers is nothing compared to Snyder.
Not even close, and I'm not even a fan of it desu.

>>87176836
> I doubt even he remembers his own character continuity.

Post the page in Ultimate Spider-Man where he says he regrets not knowing who Daredevil's real identity was then to the page issues ago where Daredevil clearly introduces to Petey who he is.

>>87170257
I haven't bought anything X-Men since the first ten issues of Bendis' Uncanny the same way I haven't bought an issue of Spider-Man since OMD. If you think X-fags are going to buy something called "Death of X" that's clearly created to character-assassinate everyone's favorite superhero and elevate the Inhumans over our beloved mutants, you are incorrect.

>>87170151

>New 52 Superman 7 66,588
>Rebirth Superman 7 72,867

> And this is a bigger drop for Superman than new 52 relaunch

Why did it take until me to call out this cunt? He also conveniently ignored that Superman is selling more while also double shipping.

>>87172996
it's not a Batman comic, Batman is just a prop there wile everyone else has a character

Morrison, and even Snyder, actually wrote about Batman while keeping the story organic and introducing new stuff

>>87181707

>. If you think X-fags are going to buy something called "Death of X"

i don't think your wrong but this franchise also had big events called Mutant Massacre and Fall of the Mutants.

>>87170779
>>87170808
This is the same person, isn't it

>>87181707
>>87182789
If Death of X doesn't sell it's probably because it's a transparent attempt to use the X-Men to push the Inhumans

>>87169526
I'm so fucking glad Marvel is getting fucked.

At this point I just hope Disney fires almost everyone in that shithole, and give a Spidey book for Joe Kelly, and another one to Bendis and force him to write a good Peter Parker like he used to. That's the only thing he knows how to write well (Daredevil too I guess).

>>87179749
Tom King is shit.

>>87185538
I dropped the book after the first two issues.

>>87180317
>Snyder's Batman is Ultimatum level of awfulness. Bendis' rape of X-Men/Iron Man/Guardians of the Galaxy/Avengers is nothing compared to Snyder.
I'll be honest. I've stopped reading Batman and Tec after the Gotham Arc and Batwomans father arc. I've lost interest in them .