AT&T Reaches Deal to Buy Time Warner for More Than $80 Billion

For what purpose?

Will the animated movies get better and, if not, when will Johns come in and save them?

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>>87142678
Nope.

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All I care is what does this mean for Looney Tunes?

>>87142678
smells like a monopoly, will this be allowed to got through?

>>87142678

It's a much better deal than the one Newscorp offered in 2014, which was about 20% lower and widely considered a mistake on Murdoch's part.

But there's a lot of fat to trim from Time Warner - high turnover and relatively low profits - so I would imagine when the sale is complete (assuming both parties continue to be interested and the regulators, who are experiencing remorse over their handling of NBCUniversal/Comcast, approve it) there will be a bonfire of superfluous departments and companies.

If the history of Turner/Time Warner is anything to go by, a lot of IP that has a market value but isn't being used effectively will be sold off, especially in the studios. 2018 will be a fire sale if that's the case.

>Does DC has something to worry about?

Always. But the sale wouldn't alter that one bit.

>Will there be a change in management?

Hard to say. It depends what ATT want to do with it. There's probably going to be a lot of selloffs, and they're definitely going to be looking at whether the DCEU is cost effective.

>Will DiDio and Lee get the boot?

They're so far down the tree it will take time for them to even know who's the boss now. Not immediately, at any rate. Nobody will know who they are. When they go, though - Johns would go, Nelson would go, Harras would go - all of them. Clean sweep. You're gonna end up with Bendis or some kid who hasn't even finished their MBA yet, depending on whether they think the existing model is fine but the personalities are flawed or the existing model is garbage and what it needs is someone who understands money/publishing/running a business to take a firm hand.

Or they'll sell it off. If the DCEU ends up shitcanned there's no reason to keep DC and WB together any more.

I would imagine a first casualty will be New Line, which doesn't really exist in any meaningful sense anyway but duplicates a lot of roles and paychecks.

>>87143458
Trump claims that if he becomes president he will force the deal to not happen

>>87143418
I'm hoping for a Simpsons World type site for the shorts, all 1039 of them.

>>87143418
If this means more remastered Blu-Ray volumes, then it's all good.

>>87143472
>A lot of IP that has a market value but isn't being used effectively will be sold off,
Do you even remember what happen to Compile? Not going to happen.

>>87143615
Also, it's time for chronological sets on Blu-Ray.

>>87143458
AT&T will own half of all US companies while Disney owns the other half how is that a monopoly

>>87143615
Also, release the rest of the fucking Tom & Jerry shorts on Blu-Ray. Fuck Warner Brothers for not doing so already.

>>87143733
Why not just do a complete set at this point.

Also since the CG Popeye Movie is canceled just get Popeye on Blu-Ray please.

>Vol.1 Blu-Ray = All of the B&W shorts pluse the 3 color specials.
>Vol.2 Blu-Ray = All of the color shorts.

>>87142678
DC is finished

>>87143883
And you are saying that because.....?

>>87143669
How many volumes would there be in they would do it chronologically for BD? There's like 1,000 shorts.

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>>87142678
>"Oh, Hello there Cartoon Network, nice to meet you."

>>87142678
>Does DC has something to worry about?
No. If anything they'll get more support. We could see things like more comprehensive online streaming for WB movies and shows and possibly even better online access for comics.

>Will there be a change in management?
Probably, but we're talking largely the highest levels. So Bewkes will probably be reassigned. Possibly Tsujihara. It's doubtful the management changes will trickle down to the level of DC Films or DC Comics any time within the next several years.

>Will DiDio and Lee get the boot?
No, they're too low in the totem pole to be affected.

>>87143472
Jesus, there's so much wrong bullshit in this post.

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Cast her right now.

>>87143946
4K Blu-Ray can hold more 1080P video per disk, but about 1 set per decade.

>>87144138
Who would you cast her as?

>>87143919
Because autists love company wars

>>87144138
Zatanna.

>>87142678
On the creative side of things, I don't see why anything would change.

Although this is another defeat for humanity as a whole as more and more power is consolidated into fewer and fewer hands.

>>87143458
The last time the US trust-busted was...?

>>87144138
I cast her as my girlfriend

>>87144241
TimeWarner tried merge with Comcast a year ago and it was blocked.

>>87144186
Ice, or
>>87144210

>>87143697
a duopoly isn't much better

>>87142678
Hmmm. That so odd I thought Time Warner was banking WAAAAY harder than AT&T. What the actual fuck?

>>87144365
Comcast is a mass media company. AT&T is a telecom company who makes no media, so this sale will go through.

This sale is about buffering both companies from a changing media consumption landscape. AT&T wants a media company to produce exclusive content since people are cord cutting. With Warners, they'll have a variety of television channels and a movie studio of their own to make things for DirectTV and other providers as well as for any digital model they could think of in the future. Warners is worried about the loss of revenue from their channels with cord cutting and less people going to the movies. Partnering with AT&T gives them a step up in the future with regards to how people partake of media and gives them exclusive worldwide access to a massive distribution network.

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>>87144589

>>87144365
Blocking a merger is different from looking at a huge company and saying, "You're too big to fail and have too much control over your area, split up."

Microsoft was the last time and it failed.

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>>87144629
Also, for comparison.

>>87144591
This is exactly the kind of situation that trust-busting is supposed to stop from happening. When you control the entire supply chain (or a major portion of it), you can price fix and distort the market.

>>87144629
>>87144672
I don't...understand. How did they get so much money? Were their cell phones that good?

>>87143502
Good. MAGA.

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>>87144365

yeah so instead it merged with charter.

what the hell is going on with these people?

millionaires and billions are like "hey we're not making enough money, let's combine our money to have more money"

>>87144715
>I don't...understand. How did they get so much money?
Everyone in the world uses phones and internet.

I'm pretty stupid.

Why aren't monopolies allowed anyway?

>>87143502
Ok, so, not gonna happen.

>>87144742
Corporate synergy. Like it or not, it's how big businesses work.

>>87144699
Unfortunately, lobbyists are persistent. Hard to tell if any politician is anti-oligarchy now.

>>87144715
when you have almost half the country on

DSL
TV
Landlines
Cellular
Business Fiber
Long distance services

>>87143502
Judging by them polls, looks like AT&T just bought Time Warner.

>>87143472

>muh DCEU

DC generates most of it's money through merchandise of which there is a lot. Just looking at movie profit for their worth is retarded

>>87144591
So a massive telecommunications company now also being a massive entertainment media company as well is somehow not a monopoly? Wat?

>>87144769
Have you ever called AT&T customer service? Everything they say is designed to sell you something new, not service what you already have.

>>87142678
Honestly, I hope AT-T bitchslaps CN and tells them to stop ruining very DC show.

>>87143458
It's only a monopoly if they own all or most of a competing business. To my knowledge ATT doesn't own most or all of the entertainment industry.

>>87144006
>yfw permutter and bendis gets their grubby hands on dc comics.

on the upside Kevin Feige working with geoff jones on dc films might be interesting.

>>87144672

So what's the wealthiest company?

>>87144138
cast as thick girl riding my penis like im a wild stallion.

>>87144903
Do you even fucking know what "monopoly" means? If Marvel bought DC or vice versa, that would be a monopoly in the comic industry because they'd basically own 2/3rd of the market. If Comcast or another mega media company combined with WB, that'd give them a ridiculous market presence that could be considered a monopoly. This is a telecom service provider, who produces no media, purchasing a media company. That's diversifying it's portfolio. With the purchase of Warners, AT&T isn't commanding a giant presence in the media production market.

>>87144793
because the fundamental idea behind capitalism is that competition keeps the owners of production in check. If one person tries to artificially inflate the price of a commodity he can be undercut by competition and that keeps things fair for the consumer.

Monopolies happen when one entity owns all of the commodity in a given area. They allow one to set their own price.

There is also price fixing which has the same effect as a monopoly, where the competitors in a given area agree to keep service low and cost high and avoid competing with each other beyond a certain threshold so that the price remains artificially inflated

Interesting story: AT&T was a nationwide telephony monopoly that was broken up in the 80's by the courts. It was split up into its regional components (Bellsouth, Bell Atlantic, Southwestern Bell, etc.). Western Electric, a part of AT&T, was itself renamed AT&T, and began the slow process of restructuring and eventually re-absorbing its regional arms.

It literally got broken up by the government, then re-formed.

>>87144977
1-7 are banks. Apple is the first non-bank at 8. AT&T is the first telecom provider at 13.

>>87145031
there is vertical integration and there is horizontal integration, and neither is good.

Horizontal is the kind of trust you're talking about where all the providers of a product or service are owned by one entity that can then set its own price.

Vertical integration is when one entity owns all the steps in the production of a consumer product from inception to retail and can effectively stonewall other individual providers

>>87145104
That's what happens when corruption takes hold of a nation's government.

>>87145104
See AT&T think they slick.

>>87144138
Vicki Vale

>>87145104
True, though the market has shifted from land lines to cellular service at this point. Though still, we're about three major carriers short of true competition.

Verizon and AT&T should be broken up to thin out the ranks a bit.

>>87142678
>Does DC has something to worry about?
https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/789611672511975424
https://twitter.com/AdrianAskarieh/status/789612764780236800
https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/789613249243209728

>>87145467
Damn, if this is true then Cereal Lord time at the top lasted way short than I thought

>>87145467
>elmayimbe
NOPENOPENOPE

>>87145541
>https://twitter.com/elmayimbe/status/789613249243209728
Chernin's appointment will be to replace Bewkes at the top of Time Warner. He'll likely appoint someone that's less of a businessman than Tsujihara and more of a creative/businessman hybrid at the top of WB. Johns is fairly safe since he's done a good job and is a creative consultant for DC and the movies.

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>>87145541
>oversight of key core Warner IP was badly lacking.
I think Geoff might be safe because he has his IP bone fides from DC publishing. He knows what the fuck he is talking about. If heads roll, it'll be the folks who weren't doing their job before Tsujihara's last ditch attempt to Balkanize Production management based upon IP grouping. He might not serve in the same capacity, but I'd imagine he'll be kept on board to help shape the new direction the DCEU may be diverted towards.

>>87145467
they're gonna kick snyder out, right?

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>>87145681
Yeah, they will do anything you want.

>>87144138
>/tv/

Why don't you American do something to stop big corporations?

Answer: because you hobos love the rich.

>>87145681
"They" might not, but one would certainly hope that whomever replaces Tsujihara prevents him from direction consideration for anything after JL.
Until JL is out and making WB money, I wouldn't expect a Red Wedding tier purging of Snyder and his ilk, but I would be shocked if there wasn't an exposé in Variety or the Hollywood Reporter about why he doesn't do DC movies any more a year or so after his departure.

>>87145704
nice

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Calendar Man

>>87145734
Because we have jobs and responsibilities and if we get out of line our lives become ruined.

>>87143472
You are absolutely retarded, this is one of Time Warner's most profitable years

>>87145836
You coward. No wonder your country cannot win any war nowadays.

>>87145734
>do something
And what do you propose? Pass laws? They'll be lobbied out before they pass or be ignored and bribed away if they do.
Stop buying their products? Sometimes they're the only option, or the only one we can afford. Most small businesses have been crushed.

>>87146000
You can literally never buy an AT&T or Time Warner product in your life and still live happily. You fucks think it's the only option when it isn't.

>>87146076
>when it isn't.
When it comes to utilities like phone and internet, it kind of is. There's usually only one company for each utility in an area.

>>87146144
No because then that would be capitalism, and that doesn't exist in America.

>>87145723
This entire thread, and you complain about my post?

>>87142678
>AT&TInc

What's that?

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>>87145836
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

BULLSHIT.

You honestly think that you'll be fired the microsecond you decide to protest?

You honestly think that you'll be shot by a drone for starting a political revolt?

Do you really value your jobs more than your rights?

If you answered yes on either or both the first 2 questions, then all I have to say is that you got a case understandable, yet overblown paranoia. If you said yes to the last one, though, all I have to say is that I honestly don't know why you claim to get angry about crap like this when you rather be comfortable than to have ANY rights!

>>87146144
This, the main companies for internet in my area are AT&T and Time Warner. Unless we want to go with something waaay more expensive then that's fucking it.

Oh well, hope they give us some kind of bundle promotion since we already have Directv, Time Warner for internet, and AT&T for a landline (yes we need that).

>>87146215
Phone company, mainly.

Any way the /biz/ conceptual debate can take it to the appropriate board while the rest of us get back to how this impacts DC and the DCEU?

>>87146340
I thought Americans liked to create businesses?

>>87142678
>The only two internet providers in my area are TimeWarner and ATT

Well I'm fucked.

>>87146417
Who gives a fucking shit, I only care if this means Warner Bros. is going to be affected.

>>87146000
Political revolution. True, actual political revolution. Not stupid crap like petitions (Who the hell reads petitions anymore? Or ever, for that matter? The only ones who will care about your petitions is the politican's paper shredder. It doesn't even work for saving TV shows from cancellation.) or boycotts (Have you ever seen a boycott like, you know, WORKING? All it does is lower you quality of life while doing jack all to the stuff you boycott, and recently it's getting more and more impractical.), I'm talking about political revolt that's, let's just say, a little violent.

But of course you won't, because at the end of the day, no matter how much people say they are "outraged" or "angry" about stuff like this, the truth is that when they say "outraged", they really mean "inconvenienced". They might be a little grumpy about it, but you bet your ass they won't be bothered to do anything about it, because they really don't care, no matter how much they say otherwise. They don't truly care about their rights or their freedoms, and time has shown again and again that they would throw both away for comfort and security. And you know what? That's totally fine. If the people decide sacrifice their rights for comfort, that's 100% OK by me. But I really get ticked off when the people say their angry about the government, or corporations, or the elite, or whatever because, in reality, they're really not.

>>87145936
You summed up my feeling for the American people. They're distracted, they're divided, they're paranoid, they won't bother about concepts such as risks and sacrifices, they are just as greedy and violent as the American government and the American corporations, they're hypocrites, they're cowards, and most importantly, they're just way too stupid to form any sort of meaningful political revolt.

>>87144866
>DC generates most of it's money through merchandise of which there is a lot.
DC doesn't own the merchandising rights, WB does.

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>>87146417
>How this impacts DC and the DCEU?
It's not going to change shit other than maybe more online options and accessibility to watch DC shows and movies and hopefully comics.

>>87145936
>>87146235
>>87146691
Pretty easy to say when you're not part one of the most powerful countries in the world. Keep in mind China and Russia are the only two countries that come close to us.

>>87146830
Living in Japan is way better than living in the piece of shit known as America.

>>87145936
>He says typing on a potato with keyboard inputs and drinking vodka in a third world country that America shitted on decades ago.

>>87146946
Yes of course, enjoy working like a slave and living on a place where there a so many people it looks like a ants colony

>>87146946
>You cowards cannot win a war
>Japan gets nuke'd
>Rebuilt to be a fun sized America
>No military, because you've been castrated

Yea no. Japan can't tell anyone their country is too afraid of shit. You've been permanently muted by everyone around you.

>>87145909
But their turnover is incredible compared to anybody else's. Profit is high, but the cost of that profit is through the roof. Nobody else is doing stupid things.

>>87144866
>>87146735
I wouldn't even be sure WB owns it. Technically it's all likely held by a brass plate in Bogota or somewhere, leased back to them so that they can claim they're paying licensing fees and avoid tax on their profits.

The profit of big-budget movies is often nonexistent until the second or third year, but when you're spending huge amounts on critical flops you need to be the market leader for grosses. It's no good saying it's capekino - people have to actually agree with you. You need those 90% reviews. As far as merch goes - if you have a shitty movie it won't sell your shitty toys. It's fine that Batman is still shifting plastic crap - it's not fine if the only lines that sell are unrelated to the movies.

>>87144068
Welcome to 4chan. DCEU is not profitable yet. It's been three years. Nobody is going to keep throwing money at it if it has another flop.

>>87143626
That's what you would have said about Star Trek. "Nobody's retarded enough to split the IP down the middle for tv rights that own all the characters but can't make movies, and movie rights that have to ask permission from the tv rightsholders every time they want to make a movie". But that's what happened.

Look at all the fucking around with back catalogs Ted Turner did in the 90s, too. There's a whole lot of shit that's just sitting there not generating revenue. It's fine having the world's biggest film library if you're not worried about cost - right after a huge takeover, they're gonna be worried about costs. Something has to pay for all that filmstock to be kept, transferred to digital, transferred back to filmstock because digital storage is garbage.

>>87146417
>make it more like marvel
that's gonna be heard a lot around the offices I'm sure

which frankly I'm fine with because it means superhero movies can finally die

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>>87147033
Kill yourselves.

>>87146946
The argument here was that guy didn't wanna risk his job and shit. Japan is the one place that would agree seeing how they don't have a military and barely any military input.

The last time Japan was in a war, Americans literally split the atom to shit all over their nation.

take it to /int/

>>87147090
>shit all over tha nation
>in less than 40 years they become the leading manufacturers of vehicles and electronics in the world
lmao

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>>87147208
Because we fucking helped rebuild the nation. Have you studied history at all?

This is why Japan is a baby Capitalist.

>>87147292
America did nothing to contribute to Japan's economic success in the 60s-80s.

So what does this mean for CN/[AS] and DC as a whole?

Do you think that they will force DC to have more of a presence on CN or do you think this buy out is not even going to trickle down that far and everything will be business as usual?

>>87147439
Without America they'd have been communist swine under the boot of the Soviets.

>>87147439
Had it not been for the US helping Japan after the bombing took place, Japan wouldn't have made it to the 60-80s. So you're welcome.

>>87144591
So vertical integration is okay but horizontal integration isn't? Who the fuck runs the FCC these days? Don't say Tom Wheeler

>>87147439
>America did nothing to contribute to Japan's economic success in the 60s-80s.

Had not for America, Japan would have been swallowed by Russia/commies after WW2

>>87147439
You guys narrowly escaped becoming a communist paradise.

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Will they get rid of Snyder?

Will they get rid of Guggenheim?

Could they? Would they?

>>87147658
Could they? Yes.

Would they? Probably not, Snyder and Guggenheim make money and that's all that matters to executives.

>>87146526
>t. Assravaged loser on a Korean cartoon board

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>>87145762
I feel like this is correct. Everything depends on how Wonder Woman and Justice League do. If they fail I wouldn't be surprised to see everything but Batman, Harley, and a potential MoS sequel to be killed. If they succeed they may just keep going how they've been going.

>>87143502
So it's gonna happen then. Oh well.

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No wonder the grim reaper is about to visit AT&T and fuck over a lot of people. They're gonna cut even more corners after this merge.

I sure hope my dad keeps his job.

>Time Warner Cable takes over Charter
>AT&T takes over Time Warner
>Other cable companies considering making cellphone plans

Communications is fucked in the USA, isn't it?

>>87145247
>Vertical integration
That's not a monopoly though. Vertical integration on its own doesn't automatically nullify space for competition at any of steps in the chain.

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>>87147039
>DCEU is not profitable yet. It's been three years. Nobody is going to keep throwing money at it if it has another flop.
Sure, drone. Looks like we're going to be getting lots more money thrown at it.

DC is fucked. It was nice knowing you boys.

I hope this is why CN's scheduling and management decisions have been so mindless latey and that new management will fix it. It would be very difficult for it to be worse than it now.
I also hope WB Home Video will release some more CN shows and thousanda of other cartoons they have the rights to but won't release

>>87149128
Why would you need a home video release if most of the shows are on Itunes and Amazon?

>>87144715
>He doesn't remember that AT&T was the exclusive carrier for the iPhone for its first few years.

>>87146691

How did you not feel embarrassment typing this out?

Ma Bell is alive and well

>>87145104
That situation was so interesting, too. The monopoly meant that they made boatloads of dosh that they spent on random research projects that may or may not have had a defined commercial purpose. IIRC, the problem was that the regulations that it agreed to in order for the government not to break it up effectively made it a state-run enterprise, and accusations of price-gouging along with the fact that social-anything is anathema to Americans prompted the break-up. The research slack was taken up by universities, the military, etc.

Now everything is sort of going back to the way it was. Grants to public/non-profit research institutions are getting cut and private industry is starting to pick up the slack. However, unlike with Bell Labs, the private companies retain ownership of the fruits of their research. If one were paranoid (and I'm not saying that I am), one could look at this as the longest fucking game of all. Bell owned everything but the IP. Now they're going to own the IP too.

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>>87149531
>>87145104
Graphical depiction

>>87144715
They were a monopoly for decades...

>>87147439
We were their biggest consumers, dingus. We facilitated much of their growth by not slapping gigantic tariffs on their cheap products.

>>87149294
Most of their shows like T&J Kids, Tazmania, S&T Mysteries, and a bunch of more obscure Hanna-Barbera stuff still don't have full DVD/iTunes/Amazon releases. They at best, have one full season released and the rest aren't.

>>87144365
>>87144591
>>87144742
Mind you, it's Time-Warner Cable that was sold to Charter (much better than Comcast, at least), while AT&T has purchased the rest of TW.

If TWC hadn't been sold off, this merger might get trust-busted, too.

Also, interesting to note that while AT&T and Comcast are huge mega-corporations, Charter is much much smaller then TWC.

>>87149569
>tfw when you wish you could get your kids AT&T and Verizon to stop spending money flinging shit at each other in public
Also, where does DirecTV fit in? I was under the impression they were owned or in some formal agreement with AT&T for a few months now.

>>87146235
>If you said yes to the last one, though, all I have to say is that I honestly don't know why you claim to get angry about crap like this when you rather be comfortable than to have ANY rights!

It's less a matter of being comfortable and more a matter of being able to eat tomorrow.

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one of these costs around 9 Warner bros.

>>87150069
People forget that about half the country lives paycheck-to-paycheck these days. I was listening to a radio story about a lady who was evicted with 3 day's notice because her son was shot (by some assholes who knew the girl he'd just broken up with) on the property (crime on property = eviction, apparently, even if you're the victim). So she was kicked out. And because she took time off to care for her son, who had six bullets in him for trying to break it off with Trouble with Tits, they wouldn't hold her job. Now she's living off food stamps and in a shelter with her kids split between family members, instead of being productive and paying her own way. No one will hire her because she doesn't have stable housing, and she can't get stable housing because she doesn't have a job.

I'm sure avoiding that kind of situation is why most people don't speak up when they're being wronged by big corporations. They simply don't have the time and means to stay on their feet if they make an enemy out of their bosses. We wouldn't have to deal with this shit if we started voting on how to implement a social safety net with our heads instead of our hateboners. But that's for liberal sissies I suppose.

>>87149869
I believe they bought DirecTV.

>>87142678
Ausfag here what do i need to know about at&t

I just don't want AT&T to become the Official Telecommunications Company™ of the DCU.

We've already got enough problems with people trying to mold our escapism into whatever they would like without putting in any actual effort on their part. I don't want somebody with actual power saying that Batman would be more realistic if he had AT&T's Unlimited Family Plan™.

How long before that put some fucking suit that's never read a comic in his life in charge of DC and he does shit like 'brand synergy' with the DCEU or edges up the characters again or sjw's them? like Marvel

FUCK. Rebirth has been going so well.

I fucking knew someone must've made a monkey paw wish for Rebirth to be so good and have been like dog fucker and Lobdell suddenly become good writers. It's not fucking fair.

>>87144138
My wife.

>>87148742
To be fair, the DCEU isn't even nearly as profitable as it should be, especially considering how big characters like Batman, Superman, and to a lesser degree, WW, are.

>>87146417
>muh off topic

>>87143669
>>87143946
What about doing it by director? So you have a complete Chuck Jones series, a complete Bob Clampett, complete Tex Avery, etc.

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>>87144737

Here's your Maga.

>>87151316
desu people don't care about directors though

>>87150496

The whole B-2 program was only $40 billion dollars; the planes were around a billion each with about twenty billion going to the development process.

You're probably thinking of the F-35 program, which has run over a trillion dollars at this point.

>>87151578
And nobody would care about all the pre-Porky black and white cartoons.

>>87150533
Thanks for bringing in ahother problem I have with our societys fondness with doing nothing when it comes to corporations and the government ruining their lives: they're way too fucking cynical. Sure, it's not good to be naive, but my god, people like you are seemingly addicted to cynicism and its related forms, such as nihilism, defeatism, fatalism, etc. I get that it is pretty easy to fall into being a cynic because it is addictive. Meth is also addictive, but it's not healthy, and neither is cynicism. All cynicism is going to do is hold you back, if not downright cripple you. So throw that crap out the window, okay? Same thing with paranoia, which, with people like you, is often paired with cynicism, and just like cynicism, it's doing you no favors.

You want to know the real reason why nobody wants to do anything against their enemies? Because the people, no matter how much they hate the rich and the powerful, all just want to be like them. They're temporarly embarressed millionaires, if you will. They're only worried about losing their jobs because they think that they won't get rich that way, even though, unbeknownst to them, they NEVER be rich no matter what they do! They think they have everything to lose even though they don't have much, if ANYTHING to lose! You might recognize it, but most people in the US of A sure don't. And even then, you're way too addicted to cynicism, the ultimate destroyers of all achievement! And if YOU would just throw it away, you would find your true inner power that everyone has, the power to do ANYTHING! Including smashing all the corporations and goverments of the world that ruins the lives of SO MANY PEOPLE!

But let's be honest, nobody really truly cares about their enemies ruining their lives, because to them, even when they say they're outraged, in truth, all of it is just an inconveniece to them. Americans are good at outrage, but when it comes to taking action, that's where they falter.

things were going too well for DC lately, it was inevitable

maybe the movies will improve though, it would be hard for them to get worse

>>87151721
desu if this means more budget on the cartoons for warner brothers shows then i'm down for it

>>87151721
>>87151771
I agree. Maybe DC will strike gold with WW. I doubt Geoff and Patty can do worse than Snyder. When is JL action coming out?

>>87152114
>When is JL action coming out?

>"Justice League Action" debuts Friday, November 4th at 9pm (ET) on Teletoon. Stay tuned for further updates.

>>87150618
I can see them marketing the BatFamily plan already.

>>87151587
Member when the B-2 Bomber seemed impossibly expensive, instead of a bargin?

>http://www.wsj.com/articles/at-t-reaches-deal-to-buy-time-warner-for-more-than-80-billion-1477157084
>wsj
>sjw

leapest door

>>87150973
>The DCEU isn't profitable!
>Er... The DCEU isn't as profitable as it should be!
Keep moving those shitposting goalposts, drones.

>>87143472
Jesus Christ, this is a load of horseshit

>>87151712
Uh. I was just saying that people are generally too insecure to fight. It's really the opposite of how you've put it: most people don't want to be rich, they just want to be secure. And normal. And accepted.

>>87152327

Yeah, it's weird that a billion dollars for anything used to be some insane, almost unimaginable amount of money to spend on anything and now we're getting to the point where movies cost at least half of that when you add in marketing.

The F-35 actually is pretty cheap per unit relative to the B-2 though; it's just that they're trying to make it do every job possible and it keeps adding costs to the program overall. Just developing an entire fleet of single-role planes would have been a lot cheaper and would have been better at their actual jobs.

Shit does this mean I won't be able to read marvel comics on my phone

>>87147039
>DCEU is not profitable yet. It's been three years. Nobody is going to keep throwing money at it if it has another flop.

Mousenigger please. There hasn't been one DCEU flop yet. Do you actually think Suicide Squad wasn't a phenomenal success?

It cost less than GotG and made almost as much, and did it without China. It blew the fuck out of Captain America:Winter Soldier.

>>87152449
But it's true BVS didn't brake 1 billion for a movie that everyone wanted for a long time. Meanwhile 4 diffrent Marvel Movies did make more then 1 billion dollars. These movies being Avengers, Civil War, Iron Man 3 and Age of Ultron

>>87152321
SWEEEET

>>87152574
>But it's true BVS didn't brake 1 billion for a movie that everyone wanted for a long time. Meanwhile 4 diffrent Marvel Movies did make more then 1 billion dollars.
>DC's second movie didn't make $1bil LOLLOLOLOLOLOOL
You look dumb as shit. And no, having Batman be on the movie isn't a guaranteed $1bil. Batman Begins made $374mil worldwide. Bale Batman and Ledger Joker made those two movies cross $1bil. And Marvel isn't going to cross $1bil again once RDJ retires.

>>87146431
what the fuck gave you that idea? Americans just feed megacorps and destroy companies.

Where I live, the literal only store within two cities is Wal-Mart. Everything else was ran out of town.

>>87146691
t.yuropoor

>>87150610
Nobody?

>>87147039
>Nobody else is doing stupid things

3 of the top 10 biggest flops this summer were Disney movies, and 5 of the 10 summer's biggest hits were WB.

>>87144591
Makes sense.

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>>87151721
>things were going too well for DC lately, it was inevitable
You motherfuckers are embarrasing. Warners just got bought out by the largest internet provider and telecom company in the world to make content. And DC is one of the largest content banks in their entire portfolio. Anyone that thinks DC is going to get sold of is either delusional or a fucking drone going into crisis mode.

You're basically going to see a massive push for any of Warner's IPs. Get ready for dedicated streaming apps for Warner movies and shows, updated HBO Now and other apps, DC, Harry Potter and Game of Thrones exclusive phones. If we're lucky they'll make their own dedicated DC Comics apart from Comixology reading app if they want to consolidate and maximize profits.

Fuck, we may even get AT&T girl wearing a Wondy outfit in a commercial before the movie.

>>87152540
Insecure, eh? Well, if that's that case, then it needs to be thrown away jsut like cynicism, apathy, and paranoia. All they do is just hold you back from doing incredible things. Having sid that, I'm kind of sick these types of people who think that they're the "victim" and how everyone and everything but themselves are blamed for their misfortunes. If they would not only stand up and fight against their enemies, but also prepare for the battles against their enemies and get enough determination and will to take risks, make sacrifices, and to never give up no matter what, then they would have a lot of their problems solved and fixed. It's just too bad that everyone seems to rather be cynical not only to look cool but also think that cynicism is the way to go, even though it's not. The people could do so many great things, if only they realize their true, great power to make the world a better place, power that no dictator or banker could ever take away from.

>>87153000
>crisis mode.
Some would say...Infinite Crisis

>>87145031
A few years ago i would say a marvel/dc merge would be a declared a monopoly but i think it might just be able to sneak in now.

Not that it would ever happen anyway of course.

>>87145208
Wheres google

>>87145681
I imagine that if they kick synder out right away it will be as a general rollback of how much power warner gives there directors which would be a shame.
But no matter who owned it synder would be gone after justice league anyway

>>87145936
But they have not really lost a war since vietnam (yes you faggots that counts as a loss)

>>87153000
Warners is one of the larger media producers out there and in their slimmed down state they're about half the size of Disney. To give you an idea of how much AT&T makes, the press release says Warners will generate just an estimated 15% of the revenue for the new merged company.

http://deadline.com/2016/10/att-time-warner-make-official-merger-perfect-match-1201841127/

That's insane. DC basically has access to night unlimited funds and distribution means if daddy AT&T wants to invest in one of their movies or projects.

>>87144672
How are there 2 #15s? Also why is anheuser-busxh so low when they have more money than comcast or samsung?

>>87153632
As long as AT&T literally doesn't kill WB/DC from the inside out, this merger should be good desu

>AT&T girl was the true leader all this time and was in the CW show ads to hide in plain sight

maybe Time Warner companies can be told to act like a well oiled machine, kinda like how Disney runs all their subsidiaries
rather than having them ignoring that they should be working with each other, like how Cartoon Network treats Warner Bros. Animation

>>87153141
You're ranting. It's not really helping.

All I wanted to do was to point out one of the jenga pieces you could remove to help topple the tower pressing down on America's chest. Ideology is nice but let's actually do something.

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>>87154070
Since Warner is going to be making such a small slice of AT&T's new pie and they bought them out purely to make content, there's no real incentive for them to gut the company. If anything, they'll put more creatively focused people on key positions to ensure they generate good content instead of the largely financial based people they have now.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/peter-chernin-poised-top-time-940567

Hollywood Reporter is saying that Chernin is likely going to replace Bewkes as head of Warners after the merger and this makes sense. Bewkes is largely a financial guy who has been prepping Warners for a sale for years. His main job has been to cut ancillary things like Time Warner Cable and make Warners a purely media production company to make it attractive for a purchase like this. Chernin was involved with Fox for a long time and was in line to be head of the company until Murdoch decided to pass the company down to his sons. During Chernin's time on Fox, he was the key guy who helped Fox News become #1 in the 18-35 demo, was involved in Avatar and Titanic and has a production company that is behind the very successful Planet of the Apes remakes.

Other heads of Warners could easily be changed. Tsujihara is head of WB and is really just a financial and business guy. Chernin could easily replace him with someone more experienced in producing content. Even Diane Nelson, who is President of DC, could get replaced since she's largely a financial person as well. Depending on how long Warners and AT&T have been talking, this could explain why Geoff Johns was recently given a title of President of DC, the same as Diane Nelson.

>>87142734
but jl vs tt was brilliant

>>87155361
No it wasn't.

>>87154069
That list looks to based on the Forbes Global 2000 list, which is based on assessing several metrics (revenue, profit, assets, market value). Comcast and such look like they have more assets under their control vs. how much their shares are worth.

>>87149569
I'm surprised they don't own Taco Bell

>>87142678
i gotta ask now
AT&T owns universal and they own the standalone movie rights to hulk
so,does that mean dc could crossover with it?

>>87152864
I wish petes dragon did better.

>>87155961
Universal is owned by Comcast.

>>87144186
on my couch

>>87143502
I need a source on that.

>>87155753
Underrated post.

>>87155361
Trigon arc in Teen Titans was better senpai

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fuck sake lads

>>87144863
>trusting biased polls that oversample Dems and fudge numbers in favour of Clinton

>>87147439
It is true, americans did nothing at all while the japanese developed their own industry and started cranking out better products. And then western countries got so assblasted that they forced Japan into an agreement that crashed their economy.

>>87145031
Yet Disney a massive media content creator was allowed to purchase two smaller but still big media creators with Lucasfilms and Marvel.

>>87147439
Not being allowed a military and receiving free military safety by the strongest military in the world saved them billions of dollars they would've otherwise wasted, on top of bragging superiority rights to the rest of asia. They would be nothing if not for us.

>>87153000
>to make content.
I'd imagine it was more the ability to pretty much have a monopoly in internet and phone service in a great many places.

>>87150496
I remember when we had fruit snacks of these fuckers. Childhood was excellent.

>>87151712
>no matter how much they hate the rich and the powerful, all just want to be like them.
A lot are well intentioned and strive to be rich so they can do good. Then when they get there they realize that shit usually isn't cheap nor sustainable, and they fall right into the shit they first complained about.

>>87152571
I still don't understand how Guardians made more than Winter Soldier.

>>87143946
since most Looney Tunes/Merry Melodies shorts average 6-7 minutes, I imagine they could probably do at least 50 to 100 shorts per set, so probably between 10 and 20 sets

>>87144006
huh, when did Disney acquire DiC?

>>87165331
>ABC merges with DIC
>few years later, Disney buys ABC
All in all, 20 years ago or so.

>>87149869
I think it was only showing companies descended from the original AT&T

>>87165369
didn't know that

also honestly I'm more curious as to what impact this merger will have on the Turner portions of Time-Warner, especially the Cartoon Network/Adult Swim/Boomerang block

>>87149869
DirecTV was bought out by AT&T a little over a year and a half ago. AT&T owns them as a parental company.

>>87143570
Too many of them are racist and inappropriate for children,

>>87165479
Well keeps old Ted from his threat of taking control of Cartoon Network and running Captain Planet 24/7

Maybe they'll be able to get Warner Bros and Cartoon Network to play nice.

>>87165576
Warner Bros can hardly play nice within itself.

>>87148480
>Time Warner Cable takes over Charter
technically Charter took over TWC but yes the cable/internet providers have been fucked up since the word GO!

>brother works for Charter
>nightmare of a company
>95% of the time its in bureaucratic meltdown mode
>owners vocally mention they want to sell out the company to larger company first chance they get
>allows inner city blacks to get discounts, stop paying when the discounts run out, then jacking the prices of everyone else to pay for it in almost every area they're in
>blacks cut cable for a month then get offered the discounts again but regular customers rarely to ever get discounts
>workers have brought this up to the bosses who basically shrug it off as it'd be racist to do anything different

On the plus side fast internet and they mostly give no shits about pirating, they'll try to throttle you if they catch ya but even then it takes something retarded specially like DLing 50GBs of movies at one go to get their attention

>>87166152
I imagine it has less to do with race and more to do with the greatest competition in cities. If it's even true; most discounts I've heard about are reserved for suburbs that are mostly white.

Attempt no redpills here, anon.

>>87166336
they give everyone the discount but inner city blacks abuse the shit out of it.
>sign up - get discount
>stop paying when discount stops
>Charter disconnects them after they hoot and holla and threaten the person sent out to disconnect em
>if they manage to run said person off it means they keep free tv/internet that much longer
>Charter policy is employees sent out to homes for issues, connects/disconnects aren't allowed to defend themselves unless under life threatening injury
>wait 2 weeks to a month after disconnected
>sign the same house/apartment # up in baby #4's name

>>87166152
>cut cable for a month then get offered the discounts again but regular customers rarely to ever get discounts

you don't offer discounts to people who are happy to continue paying the same amount

it does nothing to retain them, the only time you would ever offer "discounts" in that situation is if you had to get them into a new contract (to keep up with legislative changes for example) because the old one was about to become technically invalid

as far as new customers in low-income suburbs and urban areas go, the choice is ignore them - an untapped market - or exploit them (exploit in the sense of "get money", not "screw over", though they're often the same thing as you know)

if the signup is enough to cover the costs of installation (which is these days usually just someone in a call center ticking a box to say "cable here" and connecting that terminus, but may include boxes/cards dependent on the provider), then they're doing it right, not wrong; it doesn't matter if it seems wasteful or the customers seem disloyal, because that later period where the price is higher is for rubes; the company prefers but does not require it

the number of times they sign up is immaterial because the overall situation is one of profit, even if it's a smaller profit than you'd expect from higher-income areas; the only possible validity to your complaint would be if that signup were a loss-leader, actually losing the company money on some contracts with retention just high enough to make it worthwhile and creating a positive image of the company as affordable, which is attractive to future potential consumers

it's curious that you're railing against loss-leader tactics (which are practiced universally in consumer capitalism, but amount to a form of wealth redistribution) while at the same time railing against the right of a producer to charge whatever the market will bear and insisting that costs should come down for everybody, contrary to the company's interest

>>87166407
oh OK you've clarified some points for me here, so here's something to pass on to your brother:

his job is make-work for nobodies and he needs to find a real one, because it's about to vanish

there is no need to send anybody to the consumer site to disconnect them, you can do it with software switches; if for some reason Charter can't, then they're running on a sub-1990s infrastructure and cannot possibly be competitive, so consumer pricing is the least of his worries; he should be more worried that payroll is handled by some old dude in a dealer's visor and when that old dude dies the entire payroll system will go with him because he never wrote anything down

you don't even need someone at the call center to do it: bots can do it automatically; there's no need to recall the hardware because it's already worthless six months after it's sent out - it would literally cost more to recall units, recondition them physically and update their software, than to buy new ones

people getting around a company's higher rates by switching is immaterial; if they weren't going back to Charter they'd be going with someone else, and if you think people on low incomes aren't going to argue about pennies you're really so far out of touch with reality there's not much else to say

>>87166508
>if they weren't going back to Charter they'd be going with someone else
way many of those companies do is they divide territory up amongst themselves and have no competition within the territory they hold, occasionally trading a few 1000 to 10000 customers from one territory for control of another territory like trading cards

Actually exceedingly rare to live in an area where competition exists between service providers

>>87164930
>I'd imagine it was more the ability to pretty much have a monopoly in internet and phone service in a great many places.
Warners doesn't provide Internet and phone. They're solely a media company right now. So yes, they got bought to make media. And if you're talking about TWC, that got sold to Spectrum last year.

>>87144006
they dont have miramax? al jazeera does for some reason

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>>87146076
live happily without muh suberman? i think not

Why is every one forgetting Time Warner owns cartoon network?

Remember it was Tsujihara coming in and hiring a new guy to head all the tv channels, who in turn fired Snyder.

How is CN doing nowadays ? Think Miller will stay on?

Also TW owns half of CW, I forsee a major expansion of CW Seed or a similar product.

And I can garun fucking tee At&T Time Warner will be pushing there own "Marvel Netflix" type thing.

The biggest good thing I can think of is them doing away with the petty bullshit between partner companies.

It makes no sense to have CN forced to pay licensing fees to DC for cartoons while Marvel and Disney are a lean, mean, synergy machine.

>>87142678
At&t employee here. We will be releasing streaming live television in 2017. No dish, no boxes, no credit checks. Enjoy your HBO at discounted price.

>>87147087
Wow, you really are Japanese .

>>87144138
>yfw Hypercrisis wanking for a waifu merges DC and At& T into a glorious panolpy.

>>87154992
bewkes is already out, tsujihara (god willing) will follow soon.

>>87163125
Conveniently cuts off the part where they were founded by the mob

>>87142678
>Time Warner and At&T go Voltron.

Disney just pissed itself a little.

>>87169157
>Suddenly, Carmine Falcone becomes a good guy and legitimate businessman.

>>87166407
Okay? If cable companies were more upfront about their costs and charged fairly for the actual quality of service that they provide, you wouldn't have people taking advantage of loopholes in their policies. You don't give rich white people shit for doing the same thing in salary negotiations and on their tax forms. Or, for that matter, ratcheting up the prices after these introductory discounts, in a very shady way.

People say, "It isn't about race," a lot, and often it's too deflect from very obviously racial issues. But this? It's not about race. It's about the adversarial relationship customers and service providers have. Customers do take advantage of companies, but it's a cyclical thing that comes from and results in companies not trusting them. I dunno how you fix it, but blaming it on blacks doesn't help.

For the record, the first person I heard about this, "Drop cable after the intro period ends," was from a white family. Times are tough, you find ways to save money while living with some sort of dignity.

>>87143615
Uncut Tex Avery blu-ray collection when?

>>87169193
Meh. Had AT&T for a long while after they bought Bellsouth. They literally stopped giving a shit about rural areas and actively discouraged people using the land lines before abandoning the area all together hence then having to go to TWC

So competency will be something yet to be judged.

I liken this to Comcast buying DreamWorks. They did it because they had the money and that's it.

They did have a plan to try to make it more like their in house Illumination production company in order to increase film turnout but that plan was scrapped as they didn't want to deal with DreamWorks really. So yea I'm of a wait and see how they will work things.

>>87168626
Technically the Weinsteins have always owned the Miramax library, just that Lionsgate represent them now instead of Disney

>>87170746
They did this becasue they are scared to shit of cord cuttees and want ab in house exclusive media engine to stream for dosh .

Thats not even a guess, they outright said TW is meant to be At+T's Netflix/Hulu/Amazon Prime becasue no one buys there cable anymore.

>>87171222
Hope that means producing content to sell to those services.

Because adding another to that field when all they have is their own exclusives is as laughable as the CBS attempt. Because all they had to draw attention is the unamed and unseen Star Trek show.