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Amazing Spider-Man Renew Your Vows

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This pleases me. Literally the only Marvel title Im excited about
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Fuck you Spider-Gwen
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>>87131137
>>87131150
>Campbell
TRIGGERED
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>>87131137
MOAR!
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>>87131171
>>87131150
>>87131137
how fucking many versions of this pose did the man draw
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Secret Wars covers. New series continues from this mini
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>>87131322
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>>87131348
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>>87131377
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…and the upcoming series
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If they ever actually had them get back together I would forgive half the shit they've pulled these last years.
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>people find Campbell's women attractive
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>>87131498
This. Marvel needs a Rebirth
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>>87131137
Peter looks smug.
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I'd be more excited if it was just about Peter now having a family, not a family that now has super powers and fights crime together.

Still, looks way better than what the main title has been giving us. I'll read scans when posted here and if I dig it I'll buy the TPB
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>>87131137
I'm kind of hoping they backpedal on the whole "Regent killed fucking everyone else" thing they had going on in Secret Wars version.

Also, it was kind of weird the Power Pack showed up so young, they should have been much older by that point.
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>>87131528
Keep on hatin'.
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Peter with a family working as a science teacher is still best endgame. Fuck Parker Industries
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>>87131544
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>>87131425
I like this cover. A lot more interesting, sells the family aspect better.
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>>87131544
Still workin' on these by the way
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>>87131377
I want that plushie.
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>>87131703
>I will never live in this reality
>Time to die
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Sorry, hold the fucking phone-

Didn't this come out like a year ago or something? I stopped reading Spider-Man a while ago, but I thought I heard a lot about this back during that fucking spider-verse event. Am I crazy?
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>>87132055
It was so popular they're making it an ongoing like Old Man Logan.

Turns out you can make a lot of money when you give their customers what they want. Who knew?
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>>87132081
No shit?

Maybe I should find a way to catch up on this then. Was it just Renew Your Vows, or did it cross over with all that other Secret Wars shit? Like, is there any extracurricular shit?
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>>87132138
Just Renew Your Vows I think.
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>>87131591
>I'm kind of hoping they backpedal on the whole "Regent killed fucking everyone else" thing they had going on in Secret Wars version.
>Also, it was kind of weird the Power Pack showed up so young, they should have been much older by that point.

You'll be happy then! In interviews Conway said they're borrowing elements from that story, but NYC isn't going to have the future elements and look normal, things have moved on and been resolved so the heroes are back

http://www.cbr.com/renew-your-vows-promises-spider-man-fun-family-style-heroics/

>Regent was the villain in the “Renew Your Vows” miniseries that took place on the “Secret Wars” Battleworld. Is the continuity of your series linked to that mini?

>Conway: The Regent did exist in this universe. My thinking is that after “Secret Wars,” this universe was reestablished, but much of the stuff that happened in that miniseries still occurred. So, as I mentioned, we don’t have the high tech future world from that mini, but the Regent did attempt to take over the world and he was put down by Peter, Mary Jane and Annie, together.

>Speaking of the Fantastic Four, what can you tell us about your larger sort of heroic landscape? Do you have plans for groups like the FF or the Avengers?

>Conway: Spider-Man’s world is pretty big on it’s own, and there’s a lot to focus on and develop, but those other characters will be available. At some point, I’d love to do a Human Torch story because he and Spider-Man were always hanging out together. It would be fun to see that.
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>>87131544
>>87131703
X-Men is getting a rebirth, why can't Spider-Man?!! Come on Marvel. Do it.
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>>87131703

It's coming. Just remember "Be careful of what you wish for. You just might get it."
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>>87132500
Conway is writing and its set in a different universe. It has nothing to do with Slott.
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>>87132702
Thank God for that.
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>>87132373
Great, now I'm hyped. That was my biggest roadblock with the story, since it made that universe too depressing.
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This just reminds me of OMD and therefore angers me
I will not read this book just because of that
is this an AU? it sure as shit isn't 616 or whatever the fuck they're calling it after SW
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>>87131137
>liking worst girl
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>>87132871
Go back to your grave Gwen
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>>87131922
>del mundo on DD
I never knew how much I wanted this
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>>87131398
So how many of these will get pulled because of faked outrage?
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>>87132881
no, Gwen is also pretty bad
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>>87132901
None because this isn't "BLACK GIRL IS NOW (X)" level of notoriety and tumblr/sjw don't actually read/buy/pay attention to comics enough to see or notice this enough to raise a stink
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>>87132871
>Worst girl.

Who the fuck is best girl if pure MJ is worse?!?
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>>87131137
>Those noses
Why?
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>>87133013
>muh jews
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>>87131137
>a white man and a white woman in love

I'm literally shaking. Someone wake me up from this nightmare.
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>>87133082
She isn't even a little person!
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>>87131398

I really really hope my eventual bride has the same taste in dresses.
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>>87131137
That moment when you realize the dress is spider-silk.

>>87131591
What's this about Power Pack? I kinda have to ask, since you might be talking about recent appearance in "Civil War 2- Even Dumberer" or some future ish. Power Pack was one of those "guest star EVERYBODY" comics, so crossovering in a new Spiderman comic isn't far from possible.
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>>87133309
>That moment when you realize the dress is spider-silk.
But then it would only last an hour, which would be pretty kinky, but the ceremony would have to be rushed.
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>>87131528
Hi Black Twitter
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>>87131377

Pete getting his threesome on.
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>>87133309
Power Pack showed up in the Secret Wars Renew Your Vows mini.
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>>87131348
wow MJ is so hot peter's camera is jizzing it self.
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>>87131137
Are there artists that make a living on Variant covers and making posters?
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>>87131137
Marvel and how their treatment of Spider-Man perplexes me. It's clear that a large majority wants Peter with MJ, for them to get married and maybe even have a kid. Renew Your Vow was a five-issue limited series and it proved so popular that Marvel is making it into an ongoing. Superman is married to Lois and has a kid in Rebirth and people LOVE it. People are clearly okay with superheroes growing as characters. Marriage and children don't have to be such big no-nos. Now I'm not saying that every character has to be married and have kids. I'm just saying you don't have be so hellbent against those things.

So maybe Marvel should take stuff like that into consideration. Though if 616 Peter and MJ do have a kid, the kid should be named May (nicknamed Mayday) because come one that's what everyone really wants.
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>>87132138
>Maybe I should find a way to catch up on this then.
Don't give Marvel your money. It's just alternate universe shit.
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>>87133629
Isn't that what Alex Ross does nowadays?
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>>87131137
lol marvel are so obsessed with making the woman look naked that she looks like she's wearing saran wrap or paint.

It's so insecure when you can't even draw a dress because you're afraid they wont catch a glimpse of her curves and details. Holy christ. Shows their priorities, huh? Even parker gets to look like he's wearing a suit, at least.. although most him is hidden to give way to the playboy model; priorities again..
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>>87133677
Marvel "Look at our gays! REEEE STRAIGHT MARRIAGES!"
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>>87133309
The problem wasn't that they show up, it's that by the point in time they appear, they should be older. They show up looking closer to their initial appearances, instead of being several years older.
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>>87131528
I do. Fucking fight me faggot
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>>87133677
I think the characters refusal to settle down and grow up is a reflection of the creator's insecurity and negativity in those areas. It's ironic considering they made lovable characters; yknow sometimes things mean more to us than they do the creator- it's funny.
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>>87133852
also happy marriages exist. I don't like cynicism, it's like a self-centered negativity. Things are bad/might be bad/are perceived to be bad in one area, so EVERYTHING EVERYWHERE is bad.. that's just stupid I think.
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>>87133677
Yeah, Marvel has been fucking weird with Spider-man for a while. 616 never really goes through reboots or crises to fix continuity, but they have done the stupidest shit to backtrack popular Spider-man story elements like his marriage to MJ, but left incredibly stupid shit like Gwen's kids from Osborn.
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>>87133897
I can't think of any other A-List hero who get's shit on more than Peter.
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>>87133911
Yeah, everybody loves high school Spider-man adventures, but 616 Peter is too old to be some single loser who can't keep a girlfriend. He should have grown-ass man adventures. Leave the HS stuff to Ultimate Spider-man or some new kid like Nova or Ms. Marvel.
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>>87133677
The writers want to write Peter their way.
Meaning they know what is popular but think their way is what's best for Peter and the story.
They dont want to make the people's Peter, they want to make their own Peter.
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>>87133890
It most certainly is, and that's the mentality of these current writers. They act like they are teenagers.
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>>87134169
>>87133897
>>87133852
>>87133677

I think the reason why is because people who work on the books believe that Spider-Man is only interesting when he's struggling, so he shouldn't be married to a supermodel. Naturally, this begs the question "Well then why did you make Mary Jane a supermodel again?" but then they'll sidestep that.

I mean if he had been married to like Betty Brant or Gwen Stacy then I think they couldn't hide behind the supermodel excuse.
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>>87133180
Ones so slinky and thin that she might as well be naked?
MJ is one of those characters who is perfect for being drawn sexy, but that dress is all kinds of ridiculous.
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>>87133977
He should, it's been over 30 years since he first got married and was married. What I don't get is why the writers think that this was a bad thing.
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>>87134212
even then, he was still struggling with Mary jane. They could say Mary Jane wasn't accepted in a Union or something.
It was all struggling with bsing married and being spiderman, the was even drama with that between him and black cat.
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>>87131150

What's wrong with Pete's fingers?

>>87131425

Best cover of the lot.
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>>87134223
>Ones so slinky and thin that she might as well be naked?

What, like this?

http://www.zestvip.com/g/body-paint-weddings-6-we-can-see-everything/
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>>87131922
Made some more.
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>>87134223
it's almost like they draw them naked and color clothes on them.
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>>87134335
And remember, if you don't like my creative teams, I'm open to suggestions.
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>>87134349
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>>87134311
this isnt real? literally fuck you for getting my hopes up that john romita jr was back on spiderman.
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>>87132904
So who does that leave? Carlie? Anna Maria? Slott's Asian waifu? shitty crimelord Black Cat?

Betty?
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>>87134335
Duggan or Aaron on FF
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>>87134452
Duggan's still on Deadpool and Aaron's on Journey into Mystery. I'm trying to limit it to one artist/writer per book.
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>>87134357
>Peter "Hellfire" David getting work
lel
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>>87132931
But MJ is black in the new movie and now they're drawing her white in this new series when they could have made her black in the comic so now it's whitewashing because once you make a character black you can never ever go back reeee.

I've seen them get upset at less.
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>>87133684
Who honestly cares about ongoing universes in big two comics anymore? They've shown time and again that they're incapable of doing it without constant reboots or retcons.
Renew Your Vows has a good concept and a good writer, so why should I care whether or not it takes place in hero vs. hero event land?
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>>87132424
>Xcable
>Xiceman
Who fucking approved this
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>>87134533
He's still working on Spider-man 2099.
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>>87131922
my dick
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>>87134552
that wasn't decided
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>>87134480
What is Bill even doing this days?
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>>87132424
You're assuming X-Men's relaunch is going to be anything like DC's Rebirth.

Get ready for underwhelming books from Bunn, Soule, Lemire, Land, and Bachalo all over again.
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>>87134717
>Who fucking approved this
From the same crack team that brought you the (FAN FAVORITE!) Event: SIXIS!
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>>87131922
So you only want one issue a year?

...Joking aside, and as much as I love Ellis when he's doing a project he cares about, I question how well he'd do Daredevil.
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>>87131322
I sold a copy of this comic with this cover for £75 on Ebay.
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>>87131703
There a better pic of that Spidey costume redesign? I'm kinda digging it, but unless I see it in full, I'm kind of hesitant to say it's good.
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So? They'll just break up again in a couple of years when Marvel needs another sales boost or some editor wants to Mary Sue his girlfriend into the strip as Peter's new love interest.
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>>87132424

Bless you Xfags and your willingness to accept such abuse. Just you wait and see.
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>>87134357
Nix bradshaw please
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>>87134740
Didn't Scuttlebutt inhabit the body of the last female of Bill's species? I presume they are off fucking somewhere.
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>>87135152
Axis was fucking awesome.
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>>87131322
Wait, so this is an otherworld story? In which Peter is a whiny murderous piece of shit?
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>>87131571
That's mostly because he's a murderer and a psycopath. Fuck that version of Peter. Fuck him.
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>>87135891
>whiny murderous
What?
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>>87132952
Human Torch.
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>>87132871
That's not Silk.
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>>87135911
He burnt Eddie Brock after separating him from the symbiote. To death. Because he had to choose between being Spider Man and his family. As far as I'm concerned, he chose not to be Spider Man.
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>>87135878
>Even lowering the number of people murdered by super villains by barricading the top of all the city bridges
Oh snap
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>>87135891
>>87135901
>>87136009
If it helps, this isn't the same universe as Renew Your Vows. The setting is more modern and Regent didn't kill nearly as many heroes as he did in the Secret Wars story.
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>>87136076
Regent didn't. But what about Peter? Is he still ready to abandon all of his convictions at the first sign of trouble?
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>>87132952

Midget waifu
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>>87135911
It was just Slott doing crap comics.
You know, the usual jig, Peter is a faggott loser who can't do anything right until the fantastic OC character made in Slott saves the day and teaches to retard Petey some precious lesson about how to be a good Spiderman.
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>>87136009

You're remembering wrong. Eddie and the symbiote were still together when he brought the building down on them.

Unless you're referring to his nightmare a few years later, which was, well, a nightmare.
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>>87135878
Especially compared to other Crossovers:
-it felt less convoluted
-the tie ins were maybe kinda dumb, but fun.
-it finished on schedule
and even if you didn't like it:
-It was short
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So are they planning to make this into a different universe?

Ultimate Universe 2?
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>>87133751
oh no the idealized female form how fucking mortifying
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>>87136148
Slott probably would do better as an editor. He seems to have some great ideas like Spock and Spider-verse, but his execution of those ideas is always worse than other writers.
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>>87136095
Anon, he's a father and Eddie Brock literally just said he'd kill his daughter.
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>>87135878
>Even lowering the number of people murdered by super villains by barricading the top of all the city bridges

Huh now I see why this was originally meant to be Green Goblin
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>>87135878
Holy fuckle, are those the Ramones?
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>>87134228
Because writers grew up with teen Peter, and naturally assume that kids like teen Peter too.
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>>87134311
>Marvel Mark Waid

Ehhhhh
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>>87132424
>tfw when X-men fans have been treated like shit ever since Messiah Complex,but still come rushing back when Marvel rebrands the xmen.
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>>87131377
impossible find a good version of the pic.
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>>87133180
>implying anybody on /co/ will ever have a significant other.
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>>87134335
Oh god my feels.
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>>87137385
>Eddie Brock literally just said he'd kill his daughter.

I had a problem with that. I know its an alternate universe but the Eddie Brock I know wouldn't threaten to kill a child, even if that child was the daughter of one of his worst enemies.
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>>87138101

That and most of the current crop of writers can't write relationships to save their lives, even the married ones, so they hide behind the happy relationships can't be interesting excuse.
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>>87134325
Please change to Peter David. We all know it's the right move
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>/co/ will defend this art
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>>87133782
They have powers like "turn into gas". They can switch powers. One of them even turned into a horse alien. A big part of the Power Pack motivation is that they purposely aren't being big-time super-heroes, they have to keep a low profile and hide. There's no reason they can't play around with their age settings. Of course for all we know, Peter's been tweaking his own age through spider-connected mumbo jumbo.
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>>87135878
For the villains maybe but for everything else it was shit
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>>87131398
>>87131377
>>87131348
>>87131322
>>87131171
>>87131150
>>87131137

I will never understand why some people go so far out of their way to get what is basically an alternate cover to a comic book. I mean some people spend upwards of $100 for this shit
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>>87131137

I wish Campbell would do more than just cover art for this series...
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>>87138325
I know right?
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>>87132871

>hating on MJ

Gwenfags are cancer.
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>>87134357
[unsolicited opinions on Romanis]
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>>87134311
Didn't Waid already try his hand at writing Peter and it turned out shitty?
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>>87132871
I hear ya
Anime should be buried and forgotten
Mayday forever.
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>>87135878
>they didnt explore the X-men working with Apocalypse
it was shit and you know it anon.
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>>87141257
Better than holofoil covers of the same damn art. Tim Sale covers are usually gorgeous, or Rivera. God Rivera was wasted on OMIT.
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>>87141528
Ink, paper, time
Everything that went into OMIT was a waste
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>>87141365
Waid's big problem with characters is if he doesn't like them, he'll shit on them to get his message across. I enjoyed some of his Daredevil.
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>>87140456
I would prefer Abnett and Lanning.
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>>87131398
>MJ in a wedding dress on an autumn background
Usually I'm a Gwenfag but MUH DICK
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>>87138863
Uh Venoms first couple of appearances did have him as a blood thirsty psycho.... Marvel only softened him up to be an anti hero dude to make way for carnage.

So for me Eddie going full psycho is jn keeping up with his original appearannces. It makes complete and utter sense to me.
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>>87131398
I've never liked it when people give MJ freckles.
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>>87137327
>Slott
>Editor
Hell no, he'd just push himself in and write the shit himself. There's plenty of times Editors stick their writing dick in another person's story and fuck it all to hell.
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>>87140613
That's because Marvel can't write engaging villains without relying on the "anti-hero" cliche for them.
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>>87142105
What makes an engaging villain?


Personally, if I was handed Spot, I'd do an arc with him fully admitting he may be book-smart, but he's got as much fighting-instinct as a tadpole, and go to the internet for tips on fighting with portals from Marvel's /co/. I'd leave him with the achilles heel of being shit at reacting to unexpected situations though. If he doesn't have a plan for it before-hand, he messes up.

But I admit I'd also have to read up on Ohm's stuff because I think he's gone quiet and insane due to portal energy poisoning and/or Jackal (..or Coyote... I always confuse them, some doggo-dick), fucking with him way back when., but I don't have much to confirm that. It would be a hindrance if Spot has no brain-funcions anymore
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>>87133911
Hawkeye
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>>87142441
>Hawkeye
>A-list
If anything, the movies elevated him from D-list to B-list at best. An A-list superhero is any character who can star in their own solo movie, but more importantly, have toys that kids actually want to buy.
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>>87132871
i want gwencucks to leave
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>>87137270
regardless of context? Let's just say you're right, this is the ..fuck... "idealized female form" okay; why is it displayed that way in a wedding dress? I could've sworn I've seen scenes of women and even apparently "respectable" old figures DYING while their sexy idealized body and curves are on full display. What the fuck yknow? Nudity is 10000000% of the time used to market using sex appeal; even at the cost of common sense. Which means this isn't a ploy to interest you or entertain you; this a play to get your money. This is the lonely-adult and young-boy form of a pedophile offering candy. And imagine this stuff seeping into real life; imagine not liking a girl completely because he body doesn't fit the "idealized female form" displayed here, you'll only like her if she looks like Mary Jane, in fact you'd prefer Mary Jane: can you imagine that done to you? Of course the negative consequences are not considered because just like selling drugs, this is just a ploy for money. Where's the outline of Parker's dick? Where's the "idealized male form" in that suit he's wearing. No, he;s given dignity like anyone wearing a suit. Google "gay sexy suit" and ask yourself if you'd rather have Peter Parker wearing one of those during his wedding.
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Pete needs to move on from Mary-Jane, Gwen, Slik, and Felicia. Date something other than a city girl. Then again Pete should spend some time alone and learn to love himself and stop finding other to fill in that void completely.

Then again many here won't understand me, since many here don't love themselves.
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>>87144083
>Pete needs to move on from Mary-Jane, Gwen, Slik, and Felicia. Date something other than a city girl. Then again Pete should spend some time alone and learn to love himself and stop finding other to fill in that void completely.

You do understand why this is a bad idea right? Fanboys would SHIT themselves intensely and rage the fuck out. They'd be on the verge of tears as they read the comic with hate.
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>>87144177
Why, because it would be like looking into a mirror? I though heroes are suppose to inspire one to become better, not stagnate? Just saying, please don't take this as me talking at you or trying to be smart.
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>>87141666
They have a great run with over 50 issues across multiple series. I'd like to see what PAD could do with them, give GOTG the same treatment he gave X factor. It's a title people will buy now so he could have a long run.
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>>87131137
>Not giving MJ the mermaid dress

LIES AND PICTURES OF ALSO LIES.

I swear why did Stan the Man even bother renting out Shea Stadium.
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>>87144083
Peter needs to do some self reflection and realize his real soulmate is Johnny Storm.
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Hopefully they'll stop killing and cloning characters long enough to get the wedding done. You can't have Parker in a room full of people, in a socially important ceremony like that, without him causing General Order 66.
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So whose still alive in Renew Your Vowes? Capes, villains and sidecast?
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>>87133180
found the cuck
>"oh honey, I'm so happy. but, um, give me like fif-thirty minutes, I need to show Chad the bedr- my pussy for a bit."
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>>87145602
Is Johnny still with that Inhuman harlot?
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>>87148095
Hopefully everyone besides Regent, because fuck Slott's shitty character.
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>>87144083
>Then again many here won't understand me, since many here don't love themselves.

I relate strongly to Peter in part because of his self-loathing.
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>>87144083
This so much. Too bad it'll never happen.
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>>87148095
This isn't in the same continuity as Slott's RYV, I believe. So the other capes shouldn't all be dead. I also think that Conway said that it's set in the 80s or 90s but I could be very wrong on this one.
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>>87145493
Citi Field is to Shea Stadium what Miles Morales is to Peter Parker.
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>>87141365
Yeah, he's also not a fan of the marriage.
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>>87148380
Sadly yes but I'm hoping the redhead slut dies in that event of Inhumans vs X-Men.
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>>87148810
Eh I didn't like Citi originally but since they changed the wall in left I've been more on board
There really isn't a bad seat in the house, even in the upper deck you have an unobstructed view of the field
Plus tickets aren't terribly expensive especially secondhand. Ealrier this year me and my brother got tickets about 15 rows back down the left field line at a Mets/Yankees game for 70 a pop. Field level is generally 100+ and you'd think itd be more for the subway series
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>>87148810
Does Citi Field have bullshit powers too?
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>>87148095
I asked Conway on twitter, and he said all the heroes and villains were still alive.
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>>87131377
Best cover.
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>>87148395
What was so bad about Regent?

Well, other than eventually defeating 90% of the heroes in his first arc.
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>>87154094
He defeated 90% of the heroes in the first few pages of the Secret Wars book
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>>87154200
Didn't that happen in actual Spider-Man? Or did he have an appearance before that? I ignored Secret Wars.
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>>87148810
There are only a handful of sports venues with Corporate names that are acceptable and the list practically beings and ends with Wrigley.
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>>87154485
If I recall correctly, his first appearance is him ripping off Hulk's arm and bitchslapping the avengers with it

Yet his schtick is syphoning powers from others via science-tubes or some dumb shit

So, yea, he found a guy stronger than the hulk captured him I guess
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>>87134212
>I think the reason why is because people who work on the books believe that Spider-Man is only interesting when he's struggling, so he shouldn't be married to a supermodel.

But he's a fucking billionaire and owner of a tech conglomerate now. Is that really more relatable than being married to a supermodel?
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>>87155352
Do you happen to remember the issue?
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>>87131137
Is this new? Are they ignoring Quesada's "One More Day"?
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>>87156029
Renew Your Vows #1
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>>87156220
It's an alternate universe. OMD doesn't matter.
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>>87148380
Best part is? The real reason Johnny and Peter moved away from each other is even funnier.
Peter walked into his bathroom to find a kid Annihilus on the shitter.
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>>87158404
You'd think Peter would be happy to have something show up in his apartment that trying to kill his roommate instead of him.
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>>87158538
Nobody wants to walk in on monster from another dimension taking a shit in the morning. That is a bad way to start the day.
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>>87158975
Don't they have door locks in the Negative Zone?
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>>87161450
I guess no one would dare walk in on Annihilus when he's on his royal throne.
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I wonder if they're going to invite Mayday to the re-wedding. Or would that be awkward?
>Mayday accidentally sees Pete and MJ necking in the waiting rooms. "Marty McFly had days like this."
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>>87155352
Well as I recall he teleported it off.

Because he somehow took out the X-Men off panel, you see.
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>>87144177
Isn't that Slott's modus operandi in a nutshell?
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>>87143908
With respect, off yourself

Every single major superhero is a circus strongman archetype of idealized masculinity. You're telling me skin tight spandex that outlines every muscle doesn't sexualize a male superhero in some capacity? These are ideal forms in action, male and female. Getting OUTRAGED and triggered by a drawing says a lot about you. And stop using three elipses for dramatic effect, you come off looking like a diva.
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This would be be my Spider-Man/Renew Your Vows dream team. Coates gets the marriage in a way that almost no other writer does.
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>>87165305
The thing is is that the idealized male form in comics is based on what a man wants to be. You don't see male heroes drawn in ways that women/gay dudes would find attractive. I seem to recall that there was one case where Wizards did that for a Magic Card (Rakish Heir, I think?) and nerds got really uncomfortable about it.
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>>87165367
>You don't see male heroes drawn in ways that women/gay dudes would find attractive.

Good point. What woman would ever see anything appealing in a buff, powerful man? There certainly aren't any kind of industries that market themselves on that image.
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>>87165449
You seem to be very selectively ignoring that dudes also want to be be buff, powerful men - while women don't always want to be sex objects.

If male heroes were drawn like pic related, you can bet nerds would be getting uncomfortable, because that's not part of the power fantasy. Hell, dudes were literally complaining that this was 'too racy' (ignoring that there's been 'racy' art of women in Magic for years prior to it)
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>>87131150

Seriously. I've ALWAYS wanted them to go this route with her, even if for a short run.
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>>87165533
comics are sold mostly for young straight men
why should they care about gay fantasies? also, you really thing that gays don't find buff dudes attractive?
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>>87165533
Literally who is complaining about the vampires, like one guy?
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>>87165533
>while women don't always want to be sex objects
yeah, that's why they wear make-up and dress sexy and sometimes sluttly for an attention of men and other women
face it,nearly all women would want to be as attractive as supermodel
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>>87131634

I agree. I want that future that they teased us with during JMS run so badly (well, we can skip Peter's last stand).

But for the time being, I'll enjoy the Spider-Family.
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>>87133684

Honestly, with the way the 616 has gone in the last few years, I MUCH rather have a limited run with an actual ending set in an alternate universe where I can see the characters I love not being shit all over for the required soap opera quota.

Fuck, most of the comics I acutally end up buying are all limited runs or alternate universes.
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>>87137327

Seeing how much he has fucked over Spidey, and knowing the kind of shit Quesada was able to push on JMS.

FUCK NO.
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>>87132373
I read somewhere where they plan for this universe to be kind of the new ultimate universe, but more classic and untouched.
So about adding the FF and the classic X-Men to it.

Pretty much dialing 616 back to before it all went horribly wrong.
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So whens she gonna get blown up and cloned?
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>>87164967
If nothing else, we can agree that he disarmed Hulk
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>>87133684
>Don't give Marvel your money. It's just alternate universe shit.
So...not going to be derailed by shitty events every five minutes? How is this a bad thing, again?
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>>87148810
Spider-man is a Mets fan though.
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Wait, these two were never married.
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>>87132373

I want to see Uncle Kaine come over and spoil his niece rotten.
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>>87132373
I won't be surprise at all if Conway and the handful of competent writers at Marvel build a new universe from scratch that eventually outsells 616 shit and gets crowned the main one.
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>>87167230
Is Miles a Yankee fan?
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>>87167286
in the continuity of Renew Your Vows they are married. This is a pre-OMD alt. universe
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>>87132857
It's an AU that's meant to be where 616 would be without the whole deal with the devil.

http://www.cbr.com/renew-your-vows-promises-spider-man-fun-family-style-heroics/
>The notion here is our world was the Marvel Universe up to the point of “Brand New Day.” Then things continued without that big change. Things have also gone off track in certain ways, though. Some of the stories in our world developed in a different way.
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>>87134228
The thing that made it sting for me personally was that even if you say that the marriage had problems overall, the year or so before BND had issues showing their relationship in a great/amazing/spectacular/sensational light. Instead of being a background detail she came to the forefront Even fucking Fraction knocked it out of the ballpark with their relationship in what's probably one of the best if not the best stories he's done outside of Iron Fist.
And that's when they decide to get rid of it.

>>87136069
>Oh snap
Really anon?
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>>87131137

Why does Peter look like he's doing some kind of Jim Carrey style physical comedy
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>>87165533
You're looking at it completely wrong. It's the same motivation that most women feeling that way would have of not wanting to feel ugly and unwanted.
It may have been different in the past but men now have all the eating disorders you could ever want too.

What exactly is wrong with the Vampires? those looks like perfectly viable costumes albeit not to the same level of majesty that is Cosmic boy.
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If we're looking at a more mature spidey after the remarriage why dont they bring back alpha and have peter be a mentor to him
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>>87168454
I wanna do a vaguely racist soccer joke here, but Miles is Puerto Rican so he's probably going to be a baseball fan.
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>>87171918
YOUR ENTRANCE WAS GOOD, HIS WAS BETTER
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>>87148624
Conway said everything up until BND happened, and then events we know in 616 had different outcomes.
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>>87167568
I dunno, man. It'll be hard to top MC2's "Hobo King of the Thunderbolts" Kaine.
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>>87134349
Why is Beast picking his nose in that art? Man. What is wrong with him?
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>>87134357
Christ Bradshaw's art is shit.
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>>87141486
You know, honestly, it only makes sense to me that Apocalypse and the X-Men will eventually work together. Throw Sinister into the mix too. Especially right now with the Inhuman bullshit going on and another X-Tinction event for mutants. It makes sense that these parties coalesce.
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>>87173960
The risk of extinction is resolved with the end of IvX and ResurreXion
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>>87173999
Thank the gods.
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>>87171752
Does that mean that Mayday Parker is still a kidnap victim being raised by Osborne's connections in Europe?
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>>87174190
She's dead, anon
Let it go
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>>87131137
campell its the only artist that went from god tier to wierd tier. I mean he draws everything exactly the same, same red rudolph nose and has the wig doll complex on every female he ever draws.
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>>87174190
She's the unborn daughter alluded to in One More Day, not the daughter from the clone saga.
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>>87131150
>>87171752
>It's an AU that's meant to be where 616 would be without the whole deal with the devil.

This just makes me mad and sad about the big 2, and how they will never embrace change and growing storylines.

We will never have a Peter who grows from a young 15 year old boy into an adult man. Who has a wife and kid and inspires a new generation of superheroes.
Who grows and deals with not only great villains, but the difficulties of passing on the torch to a new generation who might not be ready. And stories with Silk and Miles, and Peter's daughter who take up the mantle and have difficulties with not only Super villains, but living up to Peter's unrealistic legacy.

Instead we get a Spider-man who is so heavily retconned and rebooted to keep him 15-25 that his story has no real meaning anymore. It's nothing more than a mish-mash of vague story points that may or may not have actually happened. And little sneak peeks to AUs and "What if.." stories that are actually good.
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>>87174880
Huh? Wasn't she born long before One More Day?
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>>87175222
I suppose that anon got confused about what daughter they were talking about

And it doesn't help that people keep thinking that the daughter shown by Mephisto was Mayday
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>>87176769
I never actually read One More Day, hell, I quit comics for a while because of it - was there another baby involved?
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>>87176806
After Peter and MJ have accepted the deal, Mephisto taunt them by showing the daughter they would have had if they didn't break the marriage
People often confuse her with Mayday because they didn't actually read the series so they don't know that she's Peter and MJ's first daughter that died
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>>87168343
>I won't be surprise at all if Conway and the handful of competent writers at Marvel build a new universe from scratch that eventually outsells 616 shit and gets crowned the main one.

If that happens, that's where all my money is going.
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>>87177373
she didnt die she was switched with another baby by osborn
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAI5lnuJLqw
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>>87136009
You're not only wrong, but you're also an idiot. Peter has been shown to cross that line when his family is on the line. It's ridiculous that you'd begrudge him for killing Venom when Venom was threatening his wife and child like that.
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>>87170814
LEGS

>>87177373
So Annie May is the daughter they would have had... down the line? Not the one MJ was already pregnant with, because she wasn't pregnant?

I've seen people say that Peter carted off his unborn child's soul doing that but it's stupider than OMD itself. If MJ was pregnant, she would have told Peter, end of story.


>>87180467
Keep telling yourself that.
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>>87131150
So does MJ get superpowers in this or what?
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would you read this /co/?
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>>87184683
who's in the background
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>>87184683
or this?
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>>87184861
don't be silly anon, you have to buy the issue
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>>87134311
Waid is shit on spidey, and he doesn't like the marriage either
>>87141365
yap.
his brand new day issues were mediocre at best
>>87138127
my thoughts exactly
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>>87181690
Mj had already had and lost mayday in the 90s clone saga. Much like how mc2 was what if the clone saga didnt end fuxking stupidly ryv is what if omd didnt happen. Anime is the daughter they would have had if they had stayed married. Their 2nd daughter after mayday died
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>>87182290
Her suit is regent tech she is borrow8bg peters powers
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>>87184557
> brown haired MJ

Yuck
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>>87184946
Didnt waid hate the superman lois marraige too? And he and morrison wanted to get rid of it and bring back the love triangle because then being married was too much like a soap opera? And the clark/lois/superman triangle wasnt somehow?
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>>87184683
>>87184866
>Ultimate

Absolutely not.
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>>87185104
This is abhorrent on so many levels.
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>>87185058
yeah, he did.
honestly, waid is really hit and miss as far as i'm concerned.
i wouldn't be surprised if he hated Wally/linda too
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>>87138237
thats because X-fags just love the abuse
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>>87132424
>mfw I realize Marvel would never kill of X-Men
>not when there are still Xfags to fuck over
The ride never ends
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>>87165533
>men always want to be buFF powerful men
you don't seem to know men at all
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>>87171752
So is aunt may dead in this?
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>>87191062
We don't yet know
She was most likely dead during the original RYV, but we'll see if that's different in Conway's one
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>>87189583
This. Poor bishop
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I am so glad this thread is still up after having a shitty day. Thanks co
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Im retarded, can someone tell me what issue number renew your vows starts at? I have this 1-700 issue file of spiderman shit
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>>87195418
Renew Your Vows isn't 616 my dude, it's like a stand-alone non-canon title like Kingdom Come or Dark Knight Returns, except much stupider
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>>87195436
well FUG

i just want 616 peter with mj. it hurts
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>>87195452
Who cares dude they been together for like 2 years just read that era
Just don't look up any porn all you'll find is rape and the cuck fad
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