Is Nickelodeon in Trouble?

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Nick has been in trouble for years the way WWE has been in trouble for treating its talent roster like garbage all while pushing 1 guy

Nick has been banking on the success of Spongebob because it has no other alternatives.

Nick seems to be entirely running on Spongebob, The Loud House, and REMEMBER THE 90'S?

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>>87101953

The Loud House is not gonna surpass Spongebob

Nothing ever will

Hell there was a time Cartoon Network thought nothing could surpass Adventure Time now Adventure Time isn't even drawing in money and Steven's Universe is too slow built to make money

>>87101897
shilling?

Either way, Nick isnt doing bad. We may not watch their live action stuff but it does well. On the cartoon side, Loud House, the Sponge and FoP are doing well.

They have the Turtles merch to keep that show afloat. All they need is for thier upcoming stuff to be fine. I'm actually a bit more confident in Pinky Malinky than before, and Welcome to the Wayne looks great.

>>87101995
Cool horseshit bro

>>87102366

What the fuck are you on about?

>>87101995
>The Loud House is not gonna surpass Spongebob

Sure pal, whatever helps you sleep at night.

>>87101931
First off, nice analogy as the WWE has failed in pushing Roman Reigns as the next Cena/Rock/Austin/Hogan/etc.

Secondly, Nick has no one besides themselves to blame for continuing to push SpongeBob and not any other show on their channel. They could have easily taken risks and push shows instead of airing Spongebob constantly. Yet, they wanted to keep taking their old horse to the local rodeo. Eventually, the judges stop giving a damn.

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>>87102514

>Pedo fags are so delusional they think their fap bait show will surpass anything

You faggots belong on Trash

Get off my site.

>>87102566

Korra is the Andrade "Cien" Almas of Nick programming she is everything people want in a star but she isn't over.

>>87102514
Different anon here.

Loud House is interesting but doesn't have that wide appeal that Spongebob created when it was popular. Back when the show was popular, everyone loved it. Hell, I knew a 300 lb black guy who was ghetto as fuck who had a spare room in his apartment devoted to Spongebob merchandise.

I could see LH almost hitting the same level of Spongebob popularity with the younger demographic, but never surpassing Spongebob's overall appeal with teens and adults.

>>87101995
Adventure Time is still making revenue given the new games that just came out and Card Wars doing exponentially well. Blame CN's own fucked up scheduling for not putting it back on the air.
>>87102314
I wish people would stop this. FoP isn't doing all that well despite the Cloe push, SpongeBob is still slumping despite Stephen being back and while the Loud House is currently doing well its only in their first season. Nobody gives a shit about their live action stuff given they just cancelled another round this year. I think that tween sitcom era is finally over.

>>87102631
>Andrade "Cien" Almas
C'mon, a Hispanic wrestler will NEVER get over in the WWE as long as Vince McMahon makes the final decision on storylines. Which is a shame as there are a lot of guys that should have or could become main event level guys if pushed properly.

How many Asian, Black, Hispanic, or non-white WWE champions have we had as draws?

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>>87102633

Ignore him he's some pedo fucker who thinks his loli fap bait show is a big money draw because it makes his penis happy

>>87102698

Adventure Time is on its LAST SEASON! Its not Spongebobby enough for CN standards hence why CN is trying so hard to bank on TTG as their version of Spongebob.

>>87102721

No one in the WWE is a draw

Its been a month and NXT is more hot for Cruiserweight Action then Raw is.

>>87102631
>Pedo
>Faggot

If you're gonna insult me, at least don't use contradictory insults.

If there's even a modicum of reason within the executives in Nick they'll learn from the example of the Loud House.

>>87102781
pedophiles can literally be faggots, dumbshit

>>87102766
>Adventure Time is on its LAST SEASON!
Its actually has two more seasons to go, they still haven't aired the rest of season 7.
> Its not Spongebobby enough for CN standards hence why CN is trying so hard to bank on TTG as their version of Spongebob.
I remember them gloating that it had beaten Spongebob a few years back too. It definitely doesn't have the huge appeal towards all age groups SpongeBob had though and it seems to only be liked by young kids.

>>87102795
See, if I was a "faggot", I wouldn't even be reading insectuous LH fanfiction.

>>87102698
But they just had a resurgence in ratings. If Spongebob is slumping and is still the second highest rated kids show on right now, that's just TV on a whole dying rather than anything about Nick specifically. Also remember FoP and probably spongebob are in a shit load of foreign markets and have merchandise as well.

You cant honestly be bringing up the revenue the alternate stuff AT of all things brings in and forget that for Nick

>>87102790
Oh, it's this guy.

>>87102766
>No one in the WWE is a draw
>Its been a month and NXT is more hot for Cruiserweight Action then Raw is.

Yeah, I love the brand split but the cruiserweights shouldn't be limited to one show.

I find it hilarious that the NXT writers moved to Smackdown and the quality of the show has greatly improved. I read about what happened on RAW and actively watch Smackdown.

The WWE has royally fucked up as RAW needs to be cut to two hours and the writing staff fired.

Anyways, back to our Nick discussion.

>>87102790
Only if Nick pushes newer shows that could mirror LH's success. Push five new shows, see what the audience favors.

>>87102790
What example? They just pushed and promoted a show to oblivion to get people to watch it. Biggest problem with Nick is that all they did was push SpongeBob for years while ignoring everything else and putting them on Nicktoons, the channel nobody watches, when they finally buckled down and stopped doing that they've garnered more success. All they have to do is promote their shows more often and they'll be more success stories like the Loud House and less disasters like Sanjay and Craig and Breadwinners

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>>87102781
>>87102795
>>87102871

Loud House had one good episode with the rest ranging on Average. Loud House is an Average Show made entirely at the same quality as Mighty Magiswords

>>87102870

Can you imagine how long Adventure Time would have lasted if it stayed on Nick

>>87102920

Brian Kendrick is more over then his entire division.

>>87102721
>a Hispanic wrestler will NEVER get over in the WWE as long as Vince McMahon makes the final decision on storylines

colby "seth rollins" lopez is pretty fucking over, dude

but this isn't /asp/ i guess

>>87102877
>. If Spongebob is slumping and is still the second highest rated kids show on right now
Of course but if something like The Loud House can beat it then its really a shell of its former glory.
>Also remember FoP and probably spongebob are in a shit load of foreign markets and have merchandise as well.
Yep, that's the main reason why we're getting a Ben 10 remake, that shit is huge in India, when the US doesn't particularly care about Ben 10 and haven't since Alien Force.

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>>87102990
>Brian Kendrick is more over then his entire division.

Well duh, he's a former WWE champion.

>>87102994
Really? I didn't know that Rollins is Hispanic. Another Zimmerman case where the person looks more white than latino.

>>87102965
>Can you imagine how long Adventure Time would have lasted if it stayed on Nick
As long as Mighty Bee so it'll immediately but put on Nicktoons Network after half of first season episodes aired. One of the biggest reason why AT succeeded was because CN was in its biggest slump and if people didn't support AT they would have transitioned to a completely different network, Nick was still in its "Spongebob" high during that period so they would have treated it like shit.

So what I'm getting from this thread is Nick needs to bring back WWE's Saturday Morning Slam and put it on their network?

>>87103087
More like I can't believe people still care about wrestling. Though I guess its /co/ related because of Camp WWE and Surf's Up 2.

I tried to watch one episode of Loud House and made it about halfway before giving up. It's a bad show that kids don't like and only pedophiles and incestfags do, which isn't a big enough audience to keep it afloat. It will be cancelled soon.

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>>87102994

THAT MOTHER FUCKER INJURED BALOR AND BALOR IS MISSING MANIA BECAUSE OF IT

>>87103060

He's the man with the plan. Paul London forever seething.

>>87103071

How long was Mighty Bee?

>>87103087

Tyson Kidd vs Daniel Bryan is a **** star TV match

>>87103123
>**** star

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>>87103117

/asp/ is a fun board if you'd just range ban Carter forever.

>>87103118

The Green House was the only good episode so far and I bet you anything I could write a better script then what Nick came up with.

>>87103087
FUCK YES.

I actually enjoyed that.

>WWE Saturday Morning Slam (featuring the Cruiserweight division)
>Power Rangers
>Ninja Turtles

Market the block as the Saturday morning rough house or something similar to push the action and BOOM. The ratings will come in.

>>87103117
Fuck you, as a former wrestler (never big, just small circuits) it will always exist. Look at UFC and its history for how fads come and go in the popular view.

>>87103139

Very rarely would you think Tyson would be above anything *** star but Daniel Bryan found away and so did Neville and Sami Zayn

>>87103123
2 seasons but Nick pretty much burned through all of it on Nicktoons despite ordering 44 episodes when it started so most of the episodes didn't even air on the main network.

>>87103161

So what you're saying is we should just bring back Velocity.

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>>87103177

Nick burns thru good quality TV the way I do with Deforestation porn...

>>87102514
The Loud House will never have even a 10th of the impact Spongebob did.

>>87103003
Well of course, Spongebob was total shit for years and just got good again. The fact that it can still be so close to the highest show in ratings is a miracle. No idea how LH is so popular though. Every other cartoon on Nick now is better than it IMO, including the long runners. It's pretty much a 6/10 to 7/10 show with a huge cast of characters and distinct but copy paste art style which always draws a fanbase (like Total Drama)

I also know about the Ben 10 thing, that shit is super huge in Latin America too, I have CN LA and it plays every day. Every series. I'd say they are the reason the show went back to it's roots with Omniverse. Which is good because Alien Force was shit.

>>87103187
That would work as well.

>>87103146
I used to live on /wooo/ years ago until the mods turned it to shit. Sucks, as Reddit's SquaredCircle board is the only other alternative.

>>87103118
The first few episodes of the Loud House are generally agreed upon to be weak as shit, it gets better as it goes on but don't be fooled by the hype and waifufaggotry it is a very mediocre show much like everything Chris Savino touches. Happy for the guy too finally get his own successful show instead of piggybacking and ruining existing ones but The Loud House is nothing special.

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Harvey Beaks is on its final season, and PGBC clearly won't last much longer.

I'm just waiting to see if Pinky Malinky is at least okay:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=e0lp2L9_LYo

>>87103170
Kidd/Cesaro was the GOAT tag team.

>>87103118
>It's a bad show that kids don't like and only pedophiles and incestfags do, which isn't a big enough audience to keep it afloat.

Which is why 2 seasons have already been greenlit even before season 1 was done airing.

>>87103227

/wooo/ has been banning me literally every hour of every day because mods follows a Hugbox and hate being told their opinions are shit.

>>87103231
>Blah blah blah, remove the fandom and the show goes from shit to decent or great tier.

That's what I read. Is it sad that's the truth about a lot of shows discussed on /co/?

>>87103247
nick can make mistakes, yes
enjoy your 2 seasons
because you won't get a third

>>87103244

Fuck you Joe for breaking Kidd's neck and fuck you Vince for pairing Cesaro with Sheamus

>>87103233
>know your limits!
That gave me a smile

I expected it to be really loud and screamy like Breadwinners but even though it's typical random, the pace is a LOT slower than I expected, which makes me super interested.

Also, there's always the slimmest chance Beaks could continue. Very slim, but it's not officially canned or anything.

>>87103258
What do you expect? The Spardot is a HUGE CUNT and needs to be told to GTFO.

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I AM THE CHEESE I AM THE BEST CHARACTER ON THE NETWORK! I AM BETTER THAN THE SPONGEBOB OR THE LINCOLNS COMBINED

>>87103277
It got greenlit for a third today

>>87103262
Pretty much all of them

>>87103277
>you won't get a third

A third season was revealed to get greenlit. Where were you yesterday?

>>87103302

Celt is pretty fucking shitty too

The only mod I kinda like is C-Higgy

>>87103278
>Sheamus

Hey! I actually know that fucker. Used to wrestle and workout with him in the gym years ago. He's not a bad guy. Actually, he's one of the nicer wrestlers in the business.

Fuck Cena, he's an asshole.

>>87103262
That's not even what I said. The show is mediocre through and through and the fandom literally only watches it for waifus, you remove that and most of /co/ would have not given a shit about it. I'm just saying if you weren't digging that first episode just give it a chance.

>>87103336

Cena's gone he's shooting his new TV show. AJ Styles and Dean Ambrose are carrying Smackdown

Rollins and Owens are carrying Raw

>>87103385
I don't even like the show. I've watched a few of the episodes and will admit that the humor it is going for isn't my thing. Quote the Meatwad: "I get it, I ain't laughing, but I get it."

>>87103390
I've met Cena more than a few times. He comes off as the jock asshole who thinks he's funny when it isn't. This was before him and the Bella sister were dating. So maybe she's changed him?

AJ is a god of wrestling and I still kick myself for having the flu and not being able to wrestle him. Dean's a good guy.

>>87103448

John Cena and Nikki Bella both have seperate shows

Cena has American Grit which is a Survivor Clone and Nikki has Total Divas/Total Bellas which is a vanity project about Nikki living a Kardashian like lifestyle

>>87103482
Shows? I'm talking about real life. Seeing Cena fucking squat a shit-ton of weight is amazing in person.

I haven't watched John's show or Total Divas at all. This reminds me, I need to text Bryan and ask how he's doing with Brie.

>>87103544

Brie is actually pregnant with a kid and Daniel Bryan's neck is still broken.

>>87103583
Yeah, I haven't spoken with him that much since his retirement. I saw the news and sent him a text to congratulate Brie and him over the baby. He said thanks and asked how I was.

This is probably the beer talking, but I miss the lifestyle.

See, this is where /co/ and I part ways and there's no legitimate way for me to voice my opinion without looking like an elitist asshole or a fully blown egomaniac. But I love cartoons too much, so...

I've watched cartoons since I was little. I'm thirty years old. I'm comparing the Loud House against a gigantic backdrop of american and eastern european cartoons, and anime. According to every metric I have and any internal system of evaluation The Loud House stands not only as a great cartoon but as an instant classic. It's right there at the top with the likes of the Powerpuff Girls and other heavy hitters of that era. It is exceedingly well crafted in every aspect ranging from art to animation to the characters to the writing to the music. This is a spotless, perfect product. Right now, currently, it stands alone at the top. It is unmatched. There is not a single damn thing that can compare to it. It's in its own league. It is so good that you can't even compare it to the trash we get nowadays.

The mere fact that there's people who don't watch it or dislike it baffles me, but okay, tastes differ. But the seeming hate it gets around here from some people is to me so out there as to be completely incomprehensible. Like I'm hearing some alien transmission of a non-carbon based lifeforms from alpha centauri. I have in the end concluded that this isn't about the Loud House at all, but a deeply personal thing. I have honestly come to believe that they lack some fundamental aspect of human emotional life and that ill-defined sense of what is quality and what is not.

Again, it is okay not to watch something due to personal preference. But to say the Loud House is mediocre or bad is like saying that Shakespeare was a hack. It makes me question just how twisted and tasteless can you get before being disqualified as a voice.

This is our flagship. This is already obligatory watching. This is already a masterpiece. This is the only thing keeping western animation afloat.

>>87102721
>how many non-white WWE champions have we had as draws?

the rock?

>>87103718
good joke

>>87103718
11/10 post tripfag.

A show produced will not appeal to everyone. I dislike SU due to how I feel the characters are poorly written, amount of filler episodes, and how terrible the fandom is (my opinions). However, I'm not going to dislike those that like the show.


Nick needs more shows like LH to move from generation A to generation B. Spongebob started airing in 1999 and there are a lot of kids who grew up with the terrible version than the good episodes.

Hopefully, Nick pulls fixes itself to continue to exist. A channel that has been around since the late 70s to die from overexposure of one to a few shows is a shame.

>>87103850
Would it really be a shame? It'd be bad if there were fewer outlets for animation, but cable channels in general are something we should hope become increasingly less relevant in that department, in that other outlets become more feasible. Nick can provide money, definitely, but there's a lot of other baggage that comes with that which can doom shows that might've otherwise had a chance.

>>87102721
>forgetting Eddie Guerrero
Apologize

>>87104077
I said "how many" former WWE champions are draws.

Look at the ratings and PPV buys. Eddie was a great wrestler, but not a draw for the WWE.

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>>87103718
agreed. actually, there is another post of yours i read on the cripple's imageboard where you describe most other modern cartoons as cultureless, brown mystery meat, and thats exactly how i feel about the cartoons on CN, mainly shit like SU or AT. they're just made not to offend anyone and sell to the largest international audience possible.

>>87104152
>some fag wants to sit at the adult's table
>one note, bland characters barely react
>turns out the adult's table is boring

MUST-WATCH TV

>>87103718
I have watched cartoons since I was a kid, and am much more forgiving than most when it comes to animation. I can still appreciate modern Simpsons, and watch cartoons from France, Canada, and England.

And Loud House is incredibly average. Its fine. Its not more than that, and does not try to be. And that's OK. I don't get why its loved so much, outside waifuism, but I don't think people can't love it.

>>87104181
And this is a good example. That is a standard plot. It does not try to elevate the plot. It does not try to add any memorable jokes to the plot or do ANYTHING non standard. You know what is going to happen, and then it happens. The characters carry the show by being interesting, where it gets a good dynamic by default because it has so many characters there is bound to be many unique character interactions, but that's it. Clyde sucks, Lincoln is an asshole the likes of Season 5 Timmy Turner, and many plots have the standard formula where Lincoln learns to appreciate his sis more. Even on Nick, FoP tries to be funnier, Harvey Beaks tries to be comfier, and Loud House sits in the middle just being fine.

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>>87104181
>one-note

i keep hearing this mainly from CN shills and its actually quite mixed up. the sisters of each character are well voiced and have a distinctive personality that makes it so that if you were watching one of those video blog where the voice actresses come together (there are a few already) you can tell right off the bat which girl they are voicing if they start doing impressions. the characters are full of personality and each is distinguishable from the last.

now, take gravity falls for instance, while the main characters are mostly great, the townspeople themselves are so boring its easy to get them mixed up. and wendy herself? one episode she's the cool badass rambo chick, the next she's a lazy teenager.

and don't get me started on SU, aside from the color-coded cutie-marked gems, the personalities are so bland and forgettable they might as well not be on Earth. this is a result of trying to create "real" characters and emotions and missing the mark completely, there is nothing memorable about them or what they do, what they like, etc.

>>87103850

I agree, but what has happened to /co/ media is paramount to incest. At a certain point in time everyone regardless of studio started to produce the same shows, with the same artstyle, and with the exact same post-modernist bent that tied in with the most obnoxious aspects of leftism. Something similar happened with say the Hanna Barbera cartoons or that tiresome subcurrent in the 90s with the EXTREME TO THE MAX bullshit. Except in the last decade or so ours was the bane of memes, ironic humor, pure asshole characters and simply put terrible art. Cartoons devolved into selling style rather than substance. It may even be that younger Anons are just so unfamiliar with watching things that you need to actually watch that to them TLH simply doesn't make sense, because in shows we got up until now a mere glance was enough. The audience may very well be unaccustomed to an actual show that goes beyond a scream, a meme and a squiggly line.

What Nick needs, and cartoons in general, is a return to objective quality. Good art, good writing, good characters and a certain distance from the "now." We are desperate for good things, and to get good things you need good people who know their shit working in the industry. No more dank memesters, hipster faggots and shrill harpies. Technical skill and the love of the medium coupled with people who are emotionally invested in their work - that's what we need. Let them do their thing, let them try their hand. Some will fail, others will succeed. All those media consultants and marketeers are NOT to be listened to. People and kids love the Loud House, but this came as a surprise precisely because companies have listened to the Internet, here defined as its loudest segments - which are invariably tumblerinas and their ilk. That's why cartoons have been suffering so much. There is an audience but the audience has been alienated by the marriage of the studios with that kind of people.

>>87104441
>objective quality.

top quality shitposting

>>87104511
you arent disproving him or anyone so why even reply

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>>87104293
I feel the exact same way about Star Vs. That show is completely unremarkable in every way yet it keeps getting pushed as something special. I'm not sure if people is still riding off the Gravity Falls high because they can't believe something so good aired on Disney Channel of all places or if its just shipper/waifufaggotry either way I honestly don't get the hype. The Loud House is even more puzzling because every defense I see for that show has nothing to do with the quality of the show itself but how well its doing. TTG does well but people still shit on it at every turn. LH does well so its apparently the best cartoon in years. I don't buy it.

>>87104543
>disproving
>objective shitposting

you must be new here

>>87103718
>implying anyone would actually read a wall of text by a tripfag

>>87101931
>>87102566
Roman Reigns isn't the problem dumb smarks

>>87104668
oh boy here comes the romark

>>87104152

Exactly.

To sum up my position on that too for the people here - most of modern cartoons are globalist cartoons. Meaning that they do not show their country of origin and culture in any way. This may seem like a no brainer, but the end result is something else entirely. People are, were and will always be interested in the other. Nobody wants to see blobs interact. The Loud House is the first cartoon since the 90s that feels american and is american - and I love it. Just like I love anime for being japanese, Wakfu for being french etc. I'm absolutely certain everyone feels this way worldwide.

We traded substance for style and vagueness and it results in a big nothing. No taste, no emotional resonance, nothing to sink your teeth in.

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>>87104293
>Lincoln is an asshole the likes of Season 5 Timmy Turner

why season 5? as far back as the first season Timmy was doing asshole things. abandoning his friends for some rich douchebags/impress Trixie for instance, there were multiple episodes like this. in the end, he would learn a moral, get over his crush and... go right back at it the next time. i'm not saying it was bad, FOP was very entertaining in its earlier years. another better example from an early episode is Timmy throwing water balloons at the Tootie, but it had him understand and feel bad for her own problems after and ends up doing the right thing on his own accord not because he wants "muh fairies back!!". Early FOP and Loud House were very similar, they both had the main character often being hoisted by his own petard trying to make his life easier, but in the end they learn just to accept things the way it is, although TLH has a little less status quo since Lincoln isn't eternally pining for a girlfriend or shunning RA because shes creepy or something. there were some people back then who thought FOP was mediocre or worse even from the beginning but they've generally not watched it and thus don't know what they were talking about.

What I've gotten from this thread is that Loud House fans are insufferable autists and that the show itself is mediocre at best. No wonder the creator hates the adult fandom. Thanks for confirming I don't need to watch any more of that show, /co/.

>>87104558
I feel similarly about Star Vs. To be honest. Good comparison. I probably like it more though. It does manage to be a bit more unpredictable than LH. Though the show has absolutely zero stakes with nobody, whether they are majotlr characters or not reacting to anything, and Star's Omnitrix

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>Blatant advertising for a nearly two year old video
Fuck off OP

>>87104743
The characters in Star vs. have more depth to them which is probably part of why you like it more. Loud House has a bunch of archetypes to create the illusion of depth, but each character is very simplistic. Goes for the "wide as an ocean, shallow as a puddle" approach.

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>>87104563
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>>87104726
>aspie thinks this was going to be a 2011-2015 tier "let's circlejerk and bash Nickelodeon thread"
>turns out everyone agrees Nick has improved, CN/Disney have declined
>IT'S NOT FAIR!

>>87104781
>everyone agrees Nick has improved


Good one

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>>87104441
leftism in generally has made media soulless and full of some sort of force-feeding of morals. remember that episode where Timmy Turner wishes for people to eat non-stop junkfood and everyone ends up a fat, unhealthy fuck? that sort of thing isn't allowed anymore (at least on modern CN) because you might offend fatsos.

There won't be a Nickelodeon 10 years from now. At least not as a television channel, anyway.

>>87101897
Nice self-promotion.

>>87102965
>Loud House had one good episode
Which episode was that?

>>87103336
>>87103448
>>87103544
>>87103628
Are you a wrestler, anon? Do you live in LA? Give us the story!

Why are you on /co/, if you're someone who's normal and well-adjusted enough to have met John fucking Cena? Do people like that watch cartoons?

>>87104704
>why season 5
Because he was never a bigger asshole before then and has not been a bigger asshole since. Around Season 4/5, his whole characterization centered on that. All the characters where their most unlikeable in that season except Mr Turner who's worst season is 9.

I also think it had much less of a status quo, Yeah things would go back to normal, but the show was willing to make permanent changes, add new characters, turn villains good and all sorts of other thing. It gets more pronounced later but was always present, which is something I respect.

>>87104441
> is a return to objective quality
come on dude.

>Technical skill and the love of the medium coupled with people who are emotionally invested in their work - that's what we need. Let them do their thing, let them try their hand. Some will fail, others will succeed. All those media consultants and marketeers are NOT to be listened to.
The only point you have made in the whole thread I can agree with

>>87104689
You are useing like 10 cartoons and applying that to the entire medium, where everything is supposedly super similar despite that not being the case at all

>>87104891
There wont be any TV channel 10 years from now.

>>87105000
>Are you a wrestler, anon? Do you live in LA?

...is he with hoodslam? please tell us you're with hoodslam, anon

>>87105000
>John fucking Cena? Do people like that watch cartoons?

John Cena has said he loves anime, although he's normie enough to have called it "japanimation." His favorite is Fist of the North Star.

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>this thread in a nutshell

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>>87103308
Member rocko's modern life?

>>87105002
>There wont be any TV channel 10 years from now.

Linear TV is definitely on the way out eventually, but I figure at least the broadcast networks will hold on longer than that. But kids networks will be hit the hardest, and are already getting hit. Ratings are down across the board. Kids prefer YouTube. Other things, too, but YouTube is a huge part of it. Increasingly they just don't "get" commercials. Like they get upset when they see them and think the TV is broken or someone changed the show for some reason. CN has adult swim so that can help them stay alive longer. Disney will probably figure something out. But Nick currently lacks any way to stay afloat as kids just stop watching kids networks. They will be the first to go.

>>87105147
But they have already embraced streaming. They upload full episodes to their website and app. Also, they are pretty unmatched in the baby show department and that takes up half their day. And also puts all the commercials to the end of shows

>>87105066
Not everyone who doesnt think the show is perfect is a CN shill. And this is coming from a person who mainly watches Nick over CN now and knows this board is filled with CN shills who shitpost the fuck out of Nick threads.

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>>87103718
I never knew that autism could be this concentrated.
Thanks for teaching me things I do not need to know.

>fag posting poorly edited gifs ITT can't except that nick's new flagship show is helping their ratings

Whether you like The Loud House or not, an 11 minute straightforward comedy in the style of older cartoons while at the same time embracing current themes is an objectively appreciated breath of fresh air. Making your line-up fresh and diverse is the best way to compete.

>>87105274
>But they have already embraced streaming. They upload full episodes to their website and app.

Oh, of course. Nick and CN aren't blind to what's happening. They're dabbling in original online shorts for a reason. But they can't possibly compete with the sheer glut of content YouTube can pump out. An episode or two of whatever can't compete with hundreds of minecraft videos, toy videos and so on being put out every single day. And as adults we can see that one is of a higher quality than the other, but kids don't really care that much, if you've ever dealt with them. Nick might survive as another voice in the sea online, but that's about it. The current form of Nick will go away, and it's just a matter of time.

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>>87104841
The shows deciding to not do dirty jokes or blunt humour doesnt mean all shows that currently air dont. Gumball makes jokes about burning books and how life sucks, for instance. Then again, CN UK. leftist boogeyman is boring though. The only show that is obnoxious with that is PPG and it's tanking

>>87105361
I think that may be why cartoons are trying to appeal to a wider range of demographics. Because it's harder to survive on just kids. For CN, it's appealing to teens and 20 somethings, and for Nick it's more family shows. Like, when the season premiere of FoP came out, I actually saw a tweet of someone watching the show with thier kids, which seems to be better than kids watching alone

You're entirely right though. Nick may disappear and exist only as a place to get shows produced before being put on whichever online streaming site. Or maybe just make a Youtube/Dailymotion/whichever channel where everything is monetized and uploaded

Honestly I feel like there is nothing wrong with generic shows that have one dimensional characters not everything needs to be super "deep" or "emotional"

>>87106186
I dont think there is anything wrong with them, and they are indeed refreshing. I just dont think they need to be presented as more than what they are.

>>87101897
why dose this wall licking autis have two intros?

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>>87102877
>If Spongebob is slumping and is still the second highest rated kids show on right now, that's just TV on a whole dying
Well no shit, why pay extra for 1000 channels when there's YouTube, vidya, and the rest of the Internet to keep you entertained?
It's a flawed concept once there's any competition that won't play ball, same as with cable companies. Once there's a service provider who won't do what the others are, they're fucked and either have to attempt to sabotage the new guy, concede and follow suit with the new guy, or try to ignore the new guy and hope it fails on its own.
The did the last thing, then I can only imagine they tried the first. Now they're likely back to the last thing: praying that the new guy fucks up and they can continue wallowing in wealth unopposed.
But it's too late for that, soon tv will be dead and remembered like radio shows were, and the content will be shifted online, with cable services being swapped with Internet as the top dog, which will hopefully end lobbying against ultra-fast internet being made available to all.
The future is so close you can almost see it.

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and here I am all by myself pissed at the network because they kicked Pig Goat Banana Cricket to the curb

>>87101897
Nah. TLH is getting great ratings, and is okay in general. Harvey Beaks season 2, while definitely doesn't hold candle to the first one, is still watchable.
CN has nothing watchable at all
Disney has Rebels and Milo

>>87103718
You need to have sex with an experienced black woman already. You're clearly backed up.

>>87108403
I just hope the new season comes out soon. I actually like it too

>>87103209
In the White Latin Country™ feed of Cartoon Network, Ben 10 it's absolutely absent.

https://buscador.cablevisionfibertel.com.ar/GridChannelContent.aspx?ch=226

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>>87101897
It's been in trouble since 2006, when Cyma Zarghami took over and cancelled all the good shows, and replaced them with CGI, tweencoms, flash animation, and endless reruns of post movie SpongeBob

This woman is evil

>>87101897
nickelodeon kills its shows with giving them a stupid long ass hiatus and short seasons

Nickelodeon should be pushing power ranges hard not giving it 20 some episodes and slapping super on it to pretend its a new show

>>87110715
Yep. Season 9 of Spongebob took 3 years to finish

Season 8 of Fairly Odd parents started and ended before Season 7 was finished

We all know the legendary Harvey Beaks hiatuses.

Not even their popular shows are safe.

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>>87101897
>Blatant video shilling isn't deleted immediately
great board /co/

>>87110910
I'd like to believe nobody watched it

I've been in this thread for hours and I certainly haven't

>>87110936

Same here.

>>87106186

Wonder if anyone held this opinion when Nick put out TUFF puppy.

It was a really successful show too.

>>87106265
I mean, nobody really does. Most people who like TLH accept that it's just a fun cartoon with no real deep meaning.