Did you see it coming?

>>87090949

As soon as they showed Turbo as a racing game I did.

Nope, and anybody who says they did likes feminine dicks

>>87090949
There were a limited number of characters that could have fit the bill, and it was too late in the movie to introduce any more. Plus he dropped a bunch of villain warning flags.
To say that I 100% knew he was Turbo before it was confirmed would be lying. To say I was surprised would be wrong.

>>87090949
A young cast ruled by an old man.
It was like a game of odd one out.

>>87090949
still the best twist of any new animated film post 2012 since it was built up.

>>87090949
Apparently, it was obvious to a lot of people, like >>87090959, but the first time I saw the movie, I was shocked by how surprised I was by this twist. Somehow I didn't see it coming at all. My reaction was pretty much EXACTLY like Ralph's in the movie at that moment, complete with ne even thinking "no WAY".

>>87090949
Did I know King Candy was a bad guy? Of course, they spoiled that in the trailer with the "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses?" gag. Good guys never pull that move

Did I know he was Turbo? Nope.

Turbo/KC's final form was cool.

>>87090959
this

They gave away too many hints.
>Showing his backstory halfway through the movie
>He just happens to be a character from another racing game
>Vanellope being on the side of the cabinet is visible from the start of the movie
>Pink castle
>The first time they showed him altering the game's code made it extremely obvious

>>87091017
>They spoiled that in the trailer with the "You wouldn't hit a guy with glasses?" gag, good guys never pull that move.

Except for Bugs, of course. And possibly Spongebob.

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>>87091022
I remember when I saw this movie in theaters and a little girl behind me started crying after he turned into a bug.
Can't say I blame her.

>>87090991
This. As the movie progressed I was slowly tallying red flag counts and he was the top contender by the time the reveal happened

>>87091064
>after he turned into a bug
The bug turned into him.

>>87091039

>Bugs
>Good guy

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>the director admitted he only made pic related a villain out of spite

jej. Not that I'm complaining, I understand his frustration

>>87091064
King Candy got some sick tats

>>87091123
If Zangief were good guy, then who would crush man's skull like sparrow egg between thighs?

>>87090949

well we where running out of movie without a major villain and only so many other named characters and I don't think disney or pixar has the stones to have the lead heroines pull a fast one

>>87091008
This.
It should've been obvious, but I didn't see it coming at all.

>>87091102
Oh yeah. That's how those things worked.

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>>87090949
Nope!

>>87091064
I though he looked pretty creepy when he was beating up Ralph and then as he flew into the light.

Damn good movie. Hope the sequel is just as good.

>>87091102
that's what makes it extra creepy, he was killed when the bug ate him, the bug version was just the bug recreating him as an adaption, which is why he couldn't resist flying into his second death in spite of being completely aware it was death.

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>>87091102
Oh fuck, that never really registered with me up until now.
>tfw Disney puts The Thing into one of their kids movies

>>87091064
I loved how his attacks while in bug-form were legitimately something I could see an actual videogame boss doing.

>>87090949
Honestly I was completely surprised.

>>87090949

Before I saw the movie in the theatres I saw people here on /co/ talking about Vanelope secretly being a princess. Since I knew that twist was coming, I took the "king's" strange behaviour towards her in a VERY different way. Rather than expecting him to be an impostor I expected there to be some twist regarding her being his secret, unwanted daughter or something. The expectation of that twist totally blinded me to the twist which actually did come about.

>>87091123

Well, let's be honest here: At the time when the game was released, and obviously being intended as much for an American audience as for the Japenese audience, they didn't introduce a huge and menacing Soviet crusher with the intent of him being a *sympathetic* character. While obviously anyone could also play as him I think the producers understood that most Japanese players would play as Ryu and most American players would play as Ken, and Zangief and company would be there as antagonists. That the USSR was at that time still America's boogieman in the way that radical Islam is today definitely played into that. Nobody would include a playable ISIS character in a fighting game today without the expectation of him being regarded as "a bad guy."

This movie had no right to be as good as what it was.

Hell its the best video game movie technically.

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>>87091184
>lubhub
what

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Does each cabinet have its own version of the characters? Like, is Ralph an entity that inhabits all of the arcade cabinets that play his game simultaneously, or does he(the one in the actual movie) only exist within the cabinet he belongs to?

>>87091482
Street Fighter was 1991. The cold war was over. It was all about sand and turbans and Operation Desert Storm by that point.

>>87091514
Stubhub.

>>87091539
Since unplugging his machine was a real threat to him and his co-workers, I'm gonna guess the latter, as much of a mindfuck as it is.

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King Candy took me by surprise, but it made sense, and didn't particularly change anything, because he was already the bad guy by that point.
Neat, and an awesome reveal, but not earth shattering.

This guy, though. I remember being in the theater when this movie came out, and literally every single mouth in the auditorium let out an audible gasp. This guy was an amazing reveal.
One, because there's zero way you could've predicted it, two because it makes perfect sense on retrospect, and three because it completely flips the entire dynamic of the story up to that point. His reveal was godly.

Zootopia's reveal, while a great movie, did come off as a lot less inspired. It was less "HOLY SHIT" and more "Oh, yeah, the one character not under any suspicion. Of COURSE it's them."

>>87091064
They better hope whoever programed the cy-bugs for Hero's Duty doesn't go Turbo because he has the start of a pretty decent cyberweapon

>>87091574
I can't see the picture due to mobile anon, but I'm assuming it's frozen?

>>87091597
Yep.

The big reveal in Big Hero Six also didn't have the oomph it should have, and thinking about it now, I'm not entirely sure why

>>87091611
Not going to lie, the biggest shock from big hero 6 was the brother dying.

It was mood whiplash. I really liked it.

>>87090949
No. Not at all.

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>>87090949
No, but i really hated that he kept the king candy image to the end.
TURBO could have been more iconic than terminator if he morphed completely and had kept his racer image from that point on.
>i wanted him in wreck it Ralph 2

>>87091625
It was kind of refreshing how the handled death.

>>87090949
I can honestly say I did not, not until the moment it was revealed in the movie.
On the other hand, I did predict that Ben Kingsley's Mandarin would be a fraud or an act of some kind months before Iron Man 3.
Life's weird.

>>87091277
I'd watch a Disney version of The Thing. Disney doing horror sounds like a recipe for a good time in general.

>>87091574
>Frozen was a shit movie with a god tier reveal
>Zootopia was a great movie with a bad reveal
Fuck.

So what was the last Disney movie not to have a twist villain?

>>87091482
I think it's more so that nobody gave a fuck about being accurate to the story of video games, even though all of the information was right there in the manual.

Zangief was always portrayed as a "hero" from the start of SF II, but everyone just saw him as a badguy, "just because"

Do game characters from other Arcade joints know the concept of going "Turbo"?

>>87091748
Planes

>>87091008
This for me too. Kinda forgot about Turbo, really. Fuck, now I want to watch this movie again.

>>87091659
The only reason it's bad in Zootopia is because Disney has done it in every one of their animated movies since WiR's was so popular and Frozen is Frozen

>>87091574
>"Oh, yeah, the one character not under any suspicion. Of COURSE it's them."
And that doesn't apply to Hans how?

>>87091802

The film already had a villain with the Duke

>>87091748
Tangled I guess, since Gothel was introduced as a villain.

>>87091574
there was no foreshadowing. One of the worst twists i've ever seen. The best twists are the ones waved right in your face that you still managed not to see due to good storytelling

>>87091892
"Love is an Open Door" is pretty fucking obvious upon retrospect.

>>87091907

I can't believe Disney missed an opportunity to use this in a sinister way when he literally shut the door on her

>>87091769
Kind of makes Zangief's situation a bit shittier than the other badguys at the meeting.
They all struggle with everyone thinking they're jerks because of the role they play, but with Zangief it's the role they assume he plays.

>>87091008
Same goes for me. Looking back on it it was mind-numbingly obvious, but they did a good enough job making it seem inconsequential so it genuinely came as a shock when the Candy King turned out to be Turbo.

It helped that they didn't show his 3D form until then, and that the sequence also related the danger of "going Turbo" with the cabinet unplugged. It was relevant to the story AND acted as a subtle set up for Turbo.

>>87091574
As much as I liked Zootopia, sadly this pretty much.

>>87091563
Think of it this way. All the cabinets in that arcade were connected to each other and it isn't very likely that the arcade had doubles of any cabinets so none of the characters ever met doubles of themselves, but other arcades would have completely different iterations of the same characters. Hypothetically you could have an arcade full of nothing but Galaga cabinets and in the hub world of that arcade would be just full of identical spaceships whizzing around.

>>87091775
I'd imagine it's a colloquial thing. Turbo made the faux pas in their arcade, but other arcades probably had different renegade characters

> Wreck-It Ralph 2's "Turbo" is another arcade's Gene

>>87091574
So the no-foreshadowing reveal is now considered a godlike reveal?

Other people would call it an asspull.

>>87091184
Does that say "Memelogic"?

>>87093847
It had foreshadowing though, it was just incredibly subtle by Disney standards.

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>>87090949
I didn't because I thought he was dead after his game got pulled
>>87091064
>>87091102
I found that cybug candy bit pretty weird. Similar Assimilating aliens like xenomorphs, the thing, parasyte, or the zerg always seemed annoying in that the victim is essentially a part of them after the weird assault
what is it with ayy lmaos being weird hybridizing parasites?
When and where did this meme start?

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>>87091064
Coincidence?

I think it was pretty well-executed. The reason it surprised me is that King Candy actually made a good argument for not letting Vanellope race, once Ralph confronted him about it. I was like "huh, well, that makes sense".
I'm getting pretty tired of twist villains though. C'mon, you don't HAVE to make it some big twist every time, just to get people talking about it. Mother Gothel was a great villain and she was played straight.

>>87090949
I was somehow too dumb not to notice, so when the reveal happened I rightly felt like an idiot.

No, but I wasn't surprised.

>>87093847
>no foreshadowing
Hans literally spells out his plans in love is an open door

He's been searching his whole life to find a kingdom to rule free of his brothers

Love, specifically her love, is an open door for him to walk in and take the kingdom

He even pretends to be in mental sync with her to manipulate her (we finish each other's - sandwiches! - that's what I was gonna say!)

>>87094024

I agree completely.

I actually bought King Candy's bullshit.

>>87091017
>>87091017
Jackie Chan has said that

>>87091017
I figured it was just a callback because it was a common quote from Ed Wynn, who Alan Tudyk was imitating for the role.

>>87091539
ideal sequel: ralph comes across another ralph from another cabinet who never went on his friend-making adventure and actually became a bad guy.

alternate felix became a grizzled resistance leader and true felix has to fight him for his wife's affections

climax ends when ralph uses felix's hammer with his super strength to a massive degree

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>>87091102
>Turbo went Songbird
FUCK!!!

>>87091802
Because there was no conspiracy to think about. There were no suspects to be suspected.

>>87090976
Why would they mention him if he wasn't important somehow? If you didn't put two and two together when he was a RACER I don't know what to tell you.

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>i realize turbo is the Rally-X driver
>mfw

>>87098113
It helps with the realism I guess. Wreck it ralph is supposed to be donkey king, both in game and character

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>>87090949
What I wanna know is, how will Disney adapt console and pc gaming in the sequel?
Ever since I was 14 I wondered if online gaming was an airport of some sort

>>87090949
i kinda didn`t give a fuck, so it was a bit of a surprise.

i`m more surprised he knew the konami code and was able to learn advanced coding tactics to program himself to be king.
or pull a bunch of wires and get lucky.

>>87090949
Like Ron Jeremy painted Hunter Orange!!

I didn't see it coming but there were enough clues that I really should have, that's the perfect kind of twist imo

What I don't understand about this movie is why Ralph and the other "bad guys" are disliked to begin with? I mean don't all the characters understand that the game is just a job? Ralph's mantra of "I'm bad and that's good" would have been a lot more powerful if he had actually been shown to have some kind of vice that made him unlikable rather than everyone just treating him like he's bad.

>>87091482
But Street Fighter 2 already has 4 set boss characters that you can't play as (in the original version) and Zangief isn't one of them.

>>87099926
He does have questions vice, he's prone to violence.
But even still, 30 years of playing the bad guy, even if just for the game, twists people's perception of you.

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Didn't surprise me, but I thought it was a neat twist nonetheless.

While we're on the subject of Crash-It Carl, there's something about the movie that amazes me and no one ever brings it up.

Characters will say their catch phrases and it sounds like actual sound clips in vidya, like "Stay sweet!" or "Have some candy!".
I can't put my finger on it, but the delivery of some lines are so... Vidya game-y, it's so good.

>>87091035
There's also the fact that he immediately jumps to the prospect of Ralph taking over Sugar Rush as soon as he finds out he's game-jumping.

>>87100296
THere are a lot of good subtleties like that. Me Andrew my friends were laughing so hard in the theater when we noticed the delivery of "have some candy" was exactly the same every time, because it was a video game voice clip

>>87091123
>Implying that Zangeif is not bad guy
>Implying Zangeif is not baddest guy
>Implying Zangeif is not bad enough dude to save president

>Western style character in a Japanese game.
>Old man in a cast of children.
>"King Candy" in a cast of Taffyta Muttonfudges and Rancis Flugerbutters

They did a lot of really subtle hints that he didn't belong in the game.

>The castle is pink because it's Vanellope's.

He was obviously the villain, was surprised completely by him being Turbo

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Why was Skrillex in Fix-It Felix? Did the programmers really put him in there?

>>87100907
Nah, he cam in from Hero's Duty, where he's an Easter egg because he worked on the game's soundtrack.

WRECK IT RALPH 2 WHEN? This is my favorite animated movie and I can't wait for the sequel.

>>87100296
>OOOOHH, A LA MODE!

>>87090949
There was like 4 or 5 months between the american release and the UK release.

I tried so hard.

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>>87090949
My expectations of Disney were low at the time, so when I speculated the possibility of King Candy being Turbo, I shrugged it off thinking "Nah Disney wouldn't do something that cool anymore." Boy was I wrong.

>>87101024
Next year, I think.

They go to the internet.

>>87100907
It would have made more sense sneaking one of the guys from Guitar Hero in there

>>87095272
I remember one idea they kept talking about wanting to do in the sequel was having Ralph meet his modern incarnations. A few ideas that they mentioned were a Donkey Kong Country-esque version who was cast as a hero character and a Super Smash Bros combat-oriented version.

>>87100907
We saw that other electronics have characters running around in them, like the Surge Protectors. I assumed Skillrex came in through the arcade's background music player.

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>>87101024
>WRECK IT RALPH 2 WHEN?
Sequel confirmed for sometime in 2018.

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>>87091064
Just like in my Kirby games.

>>87090949

Yes, I saw it coming because I didn't see the movie IMMEDIATELY and /co/ spoils the fuck out of every single goddamn movie that comes out and mods/janitors outright ignore the fact they are supposed to delete and ban for spoilers. The whole board was nothing but Turbo threads for a solid month.

I swear to god I hate you guys.

>>87091776
We don't talk about that

I guess Turbo really was a BAD, GUY.

I was a bit disappointed that Ralph didn't get a moment where he just decks Turbo. I mean the guy destroys buildings with his bare fists, even if it was just a sucker punch, seeing Ralph rail Turbo across the jaw just to demonstrate that, while being a really sweet guy, there was a good reason he was Wreck It Ralph

>>87099351
>Wreck It Ralph 2 is about Ralph and the other arcade cabinets being moved to console ports and having to deal with a plot to abuse their franchises using clones (ie other copies of the games) and trying to turn them into obnoxious cash cow franchises rather than decent games

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>>87102855
They're all wearing rain boots, stockings, or legwarmers

>>87091650
You might like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dooAjI6yOhg

>>87102855

>two of them are named "Minty"

That's just lazy.

>>87090949
No, which is strange because they drop a sorts of clues throughout the movie...

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I saw "King Candy is the villain" coming since I wasn't brain dead when I watched the movie. I figured he was turbo before it was revealed, but after I knew he was a villain.

Hans in Frozen wasn't that good either. They were very clearly setting up the "quirky funny lovable guy" as the love interest, "cardboard cutout prince" Hans just seemed like an obvious decoy. I wasn't sure if he was a villain or not at first, but it was obvious he wasn't "the one".

Any cartoon movies have better twists than those? I generally don't get that surprised by movie twists, which is weird because I love twists.

>>87091102
Turbo was in control. He was a virus at that point and could take over games. The Bugs were mindless, he gained control over them and was going to take over the other games as well because he's a power hungry ass hole. He literally tells you all this himself. Go re-watch it.

I thought Turbo was going to be one of the other racers working for King Candy or something
I didn't think he WAS King Candy

>>87091184
What's his name again?

>>87103456
remove-it randy.

>>87103456
Wreck-It Ralph, you stupid memelord.

It was a pretty good twist, mainly because KC was a good villain. Unfortunately, Disney assumes they can do it again, when in reality, they just need another well written villain.

>>87103456
Bash-it Barry

>>87103456
Fap-It Frank

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>>87098481
>Wreck it ralph is supposed to be donkey king
Looks like somebody doesn't know their video games.
http://www.giantbomb.com/beauty-and-the-beast/3030-19897/

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i87hfuh0Z9k

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>>87102855
>Rancis Fluggerbutter
>Swizzle the Swizz Malarkey
>Sticky Wipplesnit
>Citrusella Flugpucker
>Nougetsia Brumblestaine
Somebody had way too much fun with these names.

>>87099926
>They don't know being a bad guys is a joke.

Tell that to all the people that Hate an actor because they can't stop picturing him/her as the character they interpreted

>>87100349
Yeah and moments later Felix has to explain What going Turbo is since Hero's Duty and Sugar Rush cabinets are so new they don't knew about it (also he Instantly recognized Ralph)

>>87103012
That looks way too much like good old blow job source on pic?

>>87103991
It's supposed to be Donkey Kong. They've outright said it in several interviews. I doubt they even knew Beauty and the Beast existed.

>>87091541

>Street Fighter
>1991

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>>87098481
>donkey king

>>87102855
How many of them are going to be entering the internet with Ralph, Vanellope, Felix, and Calhoun in the sequel?

>>87103012
yeah I like that most of the Sugar Rush Racers follow a basic outfit scheme(except Vanellope and Minty Sakura) that is then tweaked for each individual racer(and even the clones have some differences between them and the originals)

>>87103185
well Minty Sakura is exclusive to the Japanese version of WiR(which incidentally is called Sugar Rush over there), she gets edited in over Minty Zaki(honestly I'd probably merge Minty Sakura and Sticky Wipplesnit together, with the resulting mix having Sakura's design, but Sticky's color scheme, as it'd not only set the roster at a 4:1 ratio between the boy and girl Racers, it'd also make it so there's only two Racers using the Minty Zaki model)

>>87104180
yeah I love the names too(bet you that in-universe they had names that were less nonsense in the original Japanese version though, especially since a lot of those would be a nightmare to pronounce for them)

>>87105782
very likely none of them, although it'd be neat if Rancis joined them, also I'm kinda hoping that in the final movie the whole "journey through the internet" plot isn't as major as they're making it sound(kinda like how a lot of the advertising for the first movie made it seem like Hero's Duty was going to be more important than Sugar Rush)

>>87107815
>Rancis joins them.
>At some point, they split up, Rancis goes with Calhoun, Vanellope with Felix.
>"Felix, what do you do when you like a boy?"
>"Mrs. Felix, what do you do when you like a girl?"

>>87091541
Well, the USSR collapsed in December. SFII was released earlier that year. Summer I believed.

>>87102271
now that sounds like a cool sequel idea, I'll be disappointed if the sequel isn't that.

>>87090976
You sound like you're insecure about something, anon.

>>87102271
I AM SO ANGRY THIS IS NOT THE PLOT.

God i hated Gene so fucking much

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBJHY5nmIEg

>I'm bad and that's good
>I will never be good and that's not bad
>there's no one I'd rather be...than me

>>87095272
>ralph comes across another ralph from another cabinet who never went on his friend-making adventure and actually became a bad guy.

A bit too close to Buzz in Toy Story 2, no?

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>>87109485
The movie couldn't show the extent of his just desserts.

>>87100907
>>87102239
According to test screenings, Chun Li was originally gonna be DJing the party

>>87109594
Expanded:
>Ralph comes across another Ralph from another cabinet who's as cruel and vindictive as possible after his Nicelanders rejected him.

>>87109767
that would have been far better and way hotter and lesser sense. i don't know what i'm talking about

>>87090949
Not at all, it was done really well

>>87099351
they won't, the same way they didn't really go any deeper than surface level as far as portraying some sort of interconnected game world inside an arcade goes. the more the movie progresses the less the whole "game" aspect matters. it could easily be switched for magic or whatever and hardly anything would change at all save for the names/terms used instead of glitch or bug.

>>87099926
He's also genuinely intimidating. He's easily one of the biggest and strongest characters in the arcade and he has a short temper, a fact that's lost when you're watching an obviously fake movie through a big screen but would be glaringly obvious when you're looking waaay the fuck up at a guy's towering head who's thumb is bigger than your torso. All it takes is punching one motherfucker through half a dozen walls when he's root beer drunk from tappers and he's got a reputation for life. Add on top that his job is to wreck shit up and be a bastard and you're just adding wood to the fire.

>>87090949
what the hell is with you guys? this twist was so generic it was fucking obvious. i'd forgive not suspecting the king at first, but his attitude was suspicious, and considering they put Turbo's story in the middle of the movie, which gave that feel of "this guy is totally gonna be the real villain", it's really not hard to see it.

it may be more well-made than twists in other movies that came out at the same time or since, but it was still pretty easy to see coming.

>>87090949
I half expected it but didn't really think they would do it because it would come across as a bit forced. He's not even his own character model for the majority of the time after his reveal, and there's little build-up to it. Any stupid shit the King was doing could have just been for power, the same as Ralph was doing arguably stupid shit in the FPS game for respect. Seems like they just pushed it in to have another "twist" other than the obvious one of the girl being the star of the game.

>>87091008
I was too busy wondering "why don't they get Felix to fix Vanellope's glitch to notice.
I'm glad that I didn't see it coming. The twist was really fun.

>>87110479
Felix fixes things back to their original form based on that thing's code, Vanellope's code was fucked up in the first place.

You can can cure a caught illness, you can't cure a genetic disease (generally)

>>87110689
actually her "glitch" is just her special ability, albeit one that seems enough like a glitch that it was easy for Turbo/King Candy to claim it as being one after he took over and erased everyone's memories of who Vanellope really was

>>87105468
Don't sexualize the Mama.

>>87091574
>This guy, though. I remember being in the theater when this movie came out, and literally every single mouth in the auditorium let out an audible gasp. This guy was an amazing reveal.
>One, because there's zero way you could've predicted it, two because it makes perfect sense on retrospect, and three because it completely flips the entire dynamic of the story up to that point. His reveal w

what kind of moron didnt even suspect Hans being the bad guy, especially with how much the movie paired him with /fit/ jack black and even in the ads, jesus fuck Frozen and fuck you, fuck this board, im killing myself TONIGHT

>>87090949
I didn't see it coming but immediately couldn't believe I didn't. All the going Turbo references...

>>87091008
>I was shocked by how surprised I was by this twist.
Same. Played right under my nose. Great movie.

>>87091008
My favorite part of the movie was when after the identity is revealed, he goes "MHAHAHA, TURBO-TASTIC!" like he'd been holding it in for ages. Laughed way too hard at that

>>87102855
Sticky Nippleshit, now and forever.

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>>87111242
I completely forgot about the Turbo part of the story by the time the Sugar Rush part started.

I did enjoy that "oh what" moment though.

>>87090949
I actually didn't. On a somewhat unrelated note, the length of the movie would be drastically shortened if Fix-It Felix just used the hammer to fix Vanellope.

>>87090949
Kick Buttowski?

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>>87102855
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>>87090949
No: they did a good job with making the part where Turbo was brought up actually relevant to the story rather than just some aside.

Wreck it Ralph did that a lot, really, and to brilliant effect. The volcano had a reason for exisitng independent of its use in the end, so did the bugs and so on.

It's kinda sad how rare that is, actually.