September 2016 Comic Book Sales Report - Top 100's

> 62. DOCTOR STRANGE ANNUAL #1 (MAR)
> 63. SPIDER-MAN #8 (MAR)
> 64. UNCANNY X-MEN #12 (MAR)
> 65. CIVIL WAR II AMAZING SPIDER-MAN #4 (MAR)
> 66. MOON KNIGHT #6 (MAR)
> 67. NEW SUPER MAN #3 [*] (DC)
> 68. HELLBLAZER #2 [*] (DC)
> 69. UNCANNY X-MEN #13 (MAR)
> 70. EXTRAORDINARY X-MEN #14 (MAR)
> 71. DAREDEVIL #11 (MAR)
> 72. EXTRAORDINARY X-MEN ANNUAL #1 (MAR)
> 73. STAR WARS FORCE AWAKENS ADAPTATION #4 (MAR)
> 74. PUNISHER #5 (MAR)
> 75. DEADPOOL VS GAMBIT #5 (MAR)
> 76. ALL NEW WOLVERINE #12 (MAR)
> 77. UNCANNY AVENGERS #14 (MAR)
> 78. ALL NEW X-MEN #13 (MAR)
> 79. SPIDER-GWEN #12 (MAR)
> 80. CIVIL WAR II X-MEN #4 (MAR)
> 81. SEVEN TO ETERNITY #1 (MR) (IMA)
> 82. GUARDIANS OF GALAXY #12 (MAR)
> 83. PAPER GIRLS #9 (IMA)
> 84. DEADPOOL AND MERCS FOR MONEY #3 (MAR)
> 85. REVOLUTION #1 (IDW)
> 86. JOSIE & THE PUSSYCATS #1 (ARC)
> 87. RAVEN #1 (DC)
> 88. CAPTAIN AMERICA SAM WILSON #13 (MAR)
> 89. HARLEY QUINN AND HER GANG OF HARLEYS #6 (DC)
> 90. MS MARVEL #11 (MAR)
> 91. TOTALLY AWESOME HULK #10 (MAR)
> 92. SCOOBY APOCALYPSE #5 (DC)
> 93. ULTIMATES #11 (MAR)
> 94. GWENPOOL #6 (MAR)
> 95. CIVIL WAR II CHOOSING SIDES #6 (MAR)
> 96. UNCANNY INHUMANS #13 (MAR)
> 97. INTERNATIONAL IRON MAN #7 (MAR)
> 98. NEW AVENGERS #16 (MAR)
> 99. CAPTAIN MARVEL #9 (MAR)
> 100. KILL OR BE KILLED #2 (MR) (IMA)

>Please note that comics marked with an asterisk (*) have had their reported quantities reduced due to retailer returnability, and thus may rank lower on the charts than their actual sales would reflect.

>>TOP 100 GRAPHIC NOVELS
>>Based on Total Unit Sales of Products Invoiced in September 2016

> 1. WALKING DEAD TP VOL 26 CALL TO ARMS (MR) (IMA)
> 2. WONDER WOMAN THE TRUE AMAZON HC (DC)
> 3. BATMAN TP VOL 08 SUPERHEAVY (DC)
> 4. BATMAN HC VOL 09 BLOOM (DC)
> 5. FIX TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 6. AVATAR LAST AIRBENDER TP VOL 13 NORTH SOUTH PART 1 (DAR)
> 7. SECRET WARS TP (MAR)
> 8. BATMAN THE KILLING JOKE SPECIAL ED HC (DC)
> 9. JUSTICE LEAGUE TP VOL 07 DARKSEID WAR PART 1 (DC)
> 10. HARLEY QUINN TP VOL 04 A CALL TO ARMS (DC)
> 11. SAGA TP VOL 06 (MR) (IMA)
> 12. SPIDER-MAN MILES MORALES TP VOL 01 (MAR)
> 13. JUSTICE LEAGUE HC VOL 08 DARKSEID WAR PART 2 (DC)
> 14. ONE PUNCH MAN GN VOL 08 (VIZ)
> 15. SAGA TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 16. STAR WARS HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 17. POISON IVY CYCLE OF LIFE AND DEATH TP (DC)
> 18. HARLEY QUINN HC VOL 05 THE JOKERS LAST LAUGH (DC)
> 19. VELVET TP VOL 03 MAN WHO STOLE THE WORLD (MR) (IMA)
> 20. PAPER GIRLS TP VOL 01 (IMA)
> 21. COLOR YOUR OWN WOMEN OF POWER TP (MAR)
> 22. MONSTRESS TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 23. DOCTOR STRANGE OMNIBUS HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 24. DAREDEVIL BACK IN BLACK TP VOL 02 SUPERSONIC (MAR)
> 25. RICK & MORTY TP VOL 03 (MR) (ONI)
> 26. TITANS HUNT TP (DC)
> 27. POWER MAN AND IRON FIST TP VOL 01 BOYS ARE BACK IN TOWN (MAR)
> 28. CRIMINAL TP VOL 07 WRONG TIME WRONG PLACE (MR) (IMA)
> 29. MIGHTY MORPHIN POWER RANGERS TP VOL 01 (BOO)
> 30. ALL NEW ALL DIFFERENT AVENGERS TP VOL 02 FAMILY BUSINESS (MAR)
> 31. SAGA TP VOL 05 (MR) (IMA)
> 32. WONDER WOMAN TP VOL 08 TWIST OF FATE (DC)
> 33. SAGA TP VOL 02 (MR) (IMA)
> 34. BATMAN ARKHAM POISON IVY TP (DC)
> 35. ANGEL CATBIRD HC VOL 01 (DAR)
> 36. BLOOM COUNTY EPISODE XI A NEW HOPE TP (IDW)
> 37. ADVENTURES OF SUPERGIRL TP (DC)
> 38. CAPTAIN AMERICA SERPENTS UNITE TP (MAR)
> 39. ROBIN SON OF BATMAN TP VOL 01 YEAR OF BLOOD (DC)
> 40. BATMAN TP VOL 01 THE COURT OF OWLS (N52) (DC)
> 41. BLACK PANTHER EPIC COLLECTION TP PANTHERS RAGE (MAR)
> 42. COLORING DC SUPERGIRL TP (DC)

> 43. REVIVAL TP VOL 07 FORWARD (MR) (IMA)
> 44. CONSTANTINE THE HELLBLAZER TP VOL 02 THE ART OF THE DEAL (DC)
> 45. RAINA TELGEMEIER GHOSTS GN (SCH)
> 46. GRIZZLYSHARK TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 47. BATMAN HUSH COMPLETE TP (DC)
> 48. POKEMON OMEGA RUBY ALPHA SAPPHIRE GN VOL 01 (VIZ)
> 49. HARROW COUNTY TP VOL 03 SNAKE DOCTOR (DAR)
> 50. SAGA TP VOL 04 (MR) (IMA)
> 51. BATMAN BY SCOTT SNYDER & GREG CAPULLO BOX SET (DC)
> 52. SUPERMAN TP VOL 01 BEFORE TRUTH (DC)
> 53. UNCANNY AVENGERS UNITY TP VOL 02 MAN WHO FELL TO EARTH (MAR)
> 54. BATMAN TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES HC (DC)
> 55. VIOLENT TP VOL 01 BLOOD LIKE TAR (MR) (IMA)
> 56. LUMBERJANES TP VOL 04 (BOO)
> 57. OVER THE GARDEN WALL TP MINISERIES (BOO)
> 58. BATMAN ARKHAM KNIGHT GENESIS TP (DC)
> 59. SILVER SURFER TP VOL 04 CITIZEN OF EARTH (MAR)
> 60. BATMAN DARK KNIGHT RETURNS TP (DC)
> 61. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN AND SILK TP SPIDERFLY EFFECT (MAR)
> 62. STAR WARS LEGENDS EPIC COLLECTION TP VOL 01 LEGACY (MAR)
> 63. PUNISHER WAR JOURNAL BY CARL POTTS AND JIM LEE TP (MAR)
> 64. BPRD HELL ON EARTH TP VOL 14 THE EXORCIST (DAR)
> 65. SAGA TP VOL 03 (MR) (IMA)
> 66. GREEN LANTERN TP VOL 07 RENEGADE (DC)
> 67. MARCH GN BOOK 03 (IDW)
> 68. DC SUPER HERO GIRLS TP VOL 01 FINALS CRISIS (DC)
> 69. ASTONISHING ANT-MAN TP VOL 02 SMALL TIME CRIMINAL (MAR)
> 70. THOR BY JASON AARON AND RUSSELL DAUTERMAN HC VOL 01 (MAR)
> 71. HAUNTED MANSION HC (MAR)
> 72. DOCTOR STRANGE AND SECRET DEFENDERS TP (MAR)
> 73. KILL 6 BILLION DEMONS TP VOL 01 (MR) (IMA)
> 74. X-MEN ORIGINS TP GAMBIT (MAR)
> 75. WATCHMEN TP (DC)
> 76. BATMAN BEYOND TP VOL 02 CITY OF YESTERDAY (DC)
> 77. CAPTAIN AMERICA SAM WILSON TP VOL 02 STANDOFF (MAR)
> 78. ROCKET RACCOON AND GROOT TP VOL 00 BITE AND BARK (MAR)
> 79. FABLES DELUXE EDITION HC VOL 13 (MR) (DC)
> 80. GREEN ARROW TP VOL 06 LAST ACTION HERO (DC)
> 81. MIRROR THE MOUNTAIN TP (IMA)
> 82. SUICIDE SQUAD MOST WANTED KATANA TP (DC)
> 83. WONDER WOMAN A CELEBRATION OF 75 YEARS HC (DC)

> 84. WALKING DEAD TP VOL 01 DAYS GONE BYE (IMA)
> 85. HUMANOIDS PRESENTS JODOVERSE (HUM)
> 86. MMW FANTASTIC FOUR HC VOL 18 (MAR)
> 87. FLASHPOINT TP (DC)
> 88. CAPTAIN AMERICA EPIC COLLECTION TP COMING OF FALCON (MAR)
> 89. WONDER WOMAN HC VOL 09 RESURRECTION (DC)
> 90. STAR WARS EPISODE II ATTACK OF CLONES HC (MAR)
> 91. BATMAN 66 MEETS THE MAN FROM UNCLE HC (DC)
> 92. MY LITTLE PONY FRIENDS FOREVER TP VOL 07 (IDW)
> 93. NEW LONE WOLF AND CUB TP VOL 10 (MR) (DAR)
> 94. OMEGA MEN THE END IS HERE TP (DC)
> 95. SURVIVORS CLUB TP (MR) (DC)
> 96. DIVINITY II TP (VAL)
> 97. BLACK PANTHER TP BOOK 01 NATION UNDER OUR FEET (MAR)
> 98. MARVEL UNIVERSE DOCTOR STRANGE DIGEST TP (MAR)
> 99. PREACHER TP BOOK 01 (MR) (DC)
> 100. ADVENTURE TIME ORIGINAL GN VOL 08 PRESIDENT BUBBLEGUM (BOO)

>Doom Patrol outsold Spider-Man
Good christ

Rebirth Numbers are slipping but they're still in better positions from Pre-Rebirth.

> 87. RAVEN #1 (DC)
Off the Top 100 next month for sure, but I doubt people were expecting this to sell.

> 34. BLACK PANTHER #6 (MAR)
What's with the sudden drop to 30?

>>86999405
>> 94. OMEGA MEN THE END IS HERE TP (DC)
Fuck you, humanity.

HOW IS YOUNG ANIMAL SELLING SO WELL

>>86999379
>> 99. CAPTAIN MARVEL #9 (MAR)
Almost there Marvel.

>>86999636
That chart covers only orders by Diamond account holders such as LCS.

>>86999657
Don't worry, it'll join Black Knight and Starbrand & Nightmask when #2 hits the shelves.

>>86999378
>> 11. TEEN TITANS REBIRTH #1 [*] (DC)
:)

>>86999636
there's no reasons for LCS to order so much considering it's a New York's Best Seller already, there's more copies in actual book stores

>>86999378
Why the crossover helped Tec more than it helped Nightwing?

And sad to see New Super-Man so low..

It seems Flash is the biggest hit of Rebirth (excluding Bat-titles), Titans seems stabilized and is the best amongst monthlies. Nightwing and Hal Jordan took huge hits, auch.

Cyborg and Blue Beetle has had the shittiest debuts so far.

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>TOP 100 GRAPHIC NOVELS
>TOP 100 COMIC BOOKS
What's the difference...?

>>86999761
trades and floppies

Aquaman isn't doing as well as I expected, it had some pretty big drops. Same with Nighwing and New Super-Man.

Happy for Doom Patrol, hopefully it keeps selling.

Marvel literally on suicide watch

>>86999778
Nightwing's biggest problem is it has still Bat-title baggage and it's completely ignoring Titans status quo.

Instead of showing Barbara every single issue, Seeley should have referenced Wally's return.

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>>86999657
BECAUSE IT'S HIS DIVINE WILL, YOUNG BELIEVER

>>86999378
>Green Lanterns above Hal
Goes to show that Waifus and Husbandos are better than Homosex Undertones

>>86999668
>tfw no more cosmic twink and token black friend adventures

>>86999822
Green lanterns are new reader friendly, that's probably why it held better than Hal Jordan in long run. I've never read a GL comic before and it made following GLC extremely difficult for me.

>>86999378
>50. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #2 [*] (DC)
Hopefully, this will continue to do well because it is seriously good.

>13. FLASH #6 (DC)
Flash has a huge boost. Is it because of the show?

>Green Lanterns is going better than Hal&GLC
I like both of them, but I prefer GLs.

What happened with Nightwing? That a huge drop and Batgirl isn't doing well either.

Blue Beetle and Cybrog have the weakest debuts since far..

>>86999892
Lobdell is fun, but not seriously good

>>86999803
Babs is pure poison. I hate that the Batman editorial will always shackle Nightwing to her.

>>86999657
Because marketing

>>86999378
>> 20. SUPERMAN #6 (DC)

Fucking a, this book is damn good and should be selling more

>>86999901
To each their own. I think the book is seriously good and I'm enjoying it.

>>86999870
Hal's books were always hard to follow because the writers seem to assume that the readers know everything about him.

>>86999950
Continuity heavy books are the ones suffering the most in this list. Superman should be selling better but it doesn't, Action is doing shit. Nightwing pretends you read Grayson and ignores Titans existence and as a result it took a nosedive in sales even with crossovers.

Flash seems to do the right thing. They completely ignored the Rebirth plot for those coming from TV show and kicked pre 52 Wally out of the book.

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post yfw rebirth is sinking already.

>>86999892
>Flash has a huge boost. Is it because of the show?

that and a lot of old readers came back with wally's return.

>>86999907
Yeah, I'm confused why I have sit through Babs whining and shoehorned Tim mention every single issue instead of referencing Nightwing's position in Rebirth universe.

>>86999996
>ol outsold
Supersons outsold all the Marvel now books.
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/13/dc-comics-even-ahead-marvel-average-per-title-marketshare-august/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

>>86999988
but Titans is continuity heavy and it's doing well. Flash literally referenced Crisis on Infinite Earths and Wally is appearing next issue, so much for ignoring. Action Comics is shit and has Jurgens.

>>86999996
It's still doing pretty well. If it wasn't for Civil War II, Marvel wouldn't have jackshit on the top ten. After that, you don't even see another Marvel Book until #24 (Unless you count Star Wars anyway), and it's fucking Spider-Man which holy shit also in a fucking Event.

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>>86999379
>90. MS MARVEL #11 (MAR)
This is not okay. I blame Bendis and his bad Civil War ripoff

>>87000046
keep pushing Inhumans, Marvel. That's working out great for you.

>>87000068
I feel sorry for poor fucks who'll get into comics with CWII.

>Star Wars barely manages to outsell Harle Quinn
#FUCKMARVEL

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>>87000055
>>86999988
>>86999907

>Titans somehow doing good but Nightwing doing bad despite Nightwing outselling Titans.
>Wally somehow would be giving Dick thousands of sales despite Dick's book outselling the book Wally is basically the main character of
>Wallyfags believe this

>>86999378
>11. TEEN TITANS REBIRTH #1 [*] (DC)
>>86999378
>> 12. DETECTIVE COMICS #941 (DC)
damian kills it.

>>87000119
>>Titans somehow doing good but Nightwing doing bad despite Nightwing outselling Titans.

> 29. TITANS #3 [*] (DC)
> 30. NIGHTWING #4 [*] (DC)

One of these is slipping and one of these is rising. Guess which one

> 67. NEW SUPER MAN #3 [*] (DC)
I hope this at least settles up to 50K Sales.

>>86999822
I don't like big event stuff and that's what Hal Jordan seems like. I want a character driven book and Green Lanterns gives me two of them. And Jessica is a cutie

>>87000119
Titans is stabilized and Nightwing is bleeding even with crossovers. Wally and Dick both are low A-list anyway, so these two titles will probably sell around the same numbers in the end.

>>86999378
>> 43. GREEN ARROW #7 (DC)
Sex island only made 43? I thought for sure it was going to skyrocket like it did to my dick

>>87000193
The September 2016 Green Arrow issues are Emiko-centric. The sex island issues are this month's.

>>86999378
>Civil War beat Justice League
>Walking Dead beat Trinity

It's over. DC is finished.

>>87000138
You forgot to post Nightwing #5's position which is above Titans.

>>87000167
>Declaring it stabalized after having had one of the biggest drops of any Rebirth title.

We might want to wait a bit on this declaration. Besides even if it does go on to outsell Nightwing, it was still competitive to the point where they are occupying similar space on the sales chart. I don't know where people are getting this bogus idea that bringing in Wally would somehow help Nightwing despite Titans already having Nightwing + Wally + Donna + Roy.

>>87000055
>but Titans is continuity heavy and it's doing well.
it's literally fueled only by wallyfags

>Flash literally referenced Crisis on Infinite Earths
only old readers could understand it. there was nothing casuals would be confused of.

>and Wally is appearing next issue, so much for ignoring.
he's delegated to guest starring. wally used to be the star of that book, for 20 years to be exact. now he's used for gimmicks to gurantee sales.

>>86999822
Green Lanterns is top notch.

>>87000259
>You forgot to post Nightwing #5's position which is above Titans.

That's still a HUGE drop from the last month, which is the point anon is trying to make.

Why would bringing Wally into Nightwing be a bad idea anyway? It's better than Barbara poisoning the book.

>>87000259
>One of these slipping
>One of these is rising
Nightwing was much higher then, Titans used to be at #34.

>>86999378
>> 52. AQUAMAN #6 (DC)
Awww yeah ma man aquaman
>> 58. AQUAMAN #7 (DC)
Ouch the questionable quality of the superman crossover really hurt it

>>87000256
>implying

>>87000331
only things above titans are #1s, batman books, a-listers like flash, deadpool and spider man. it's holding very well for a book dc doesn't promote.

>>86999379
>> 68. HELLBLAZER #2 [*] (DC)
Not bad considering its still trying to shake off the damage of the nu52 but i wish it was a little higher
> 87. RAVEN #1 (DC)
Ouch i hope it claws its way back up it was a lot better then her emo series
Still top 100 though
>90. MS MARVEL #11 (MAR)
Did civil war 2 totaly kill her sales

>>86999389
>> 2. WONDER WOMAN THE TRUE AMAZON HC (DC)
Never heard of it.

>>87000383
It's a recent book.

>>86999389
>> 9. JUSTICE LEAGUE TP VOL 07 DARKSEID WAR PART 1 (DC)
Good lord why
I guess those buying it had not heard how crap it was
I expect few of those people will buy the secons trade

>>87000376
Also you forgot that Kamala outsold Gwenpool that time.

>>86999618
>Off the Top 100 next month for sure
I expect it will slip off next month then the numbers will auctualy grow for issue #3

>>87000357
>a-listers like deadpool
When you remember he started as amoral mercenary who tells jokes.

>>87000376
Looks like Civil War 2 has hurt almost everyone.

>>87000383
Retelling of Diana's origin.
Again.

>>87000376
CWII killed everything

>>86999379
>> 89. HARLEY QUINN AND HER GANG OF HARLEYS #6 (DC)
Why does the best harley book sell the worst

>>86999395
>> 75. WATCHMEN TP (DC)
Think it will ever drop all the way off the top 100 /co/

>>87000514
Tieri and to a lesser extent, delays.

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5 marvel in the top 50

>>87000735
I count 10
Still prety fucking brutal

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>Inhumans are still in top 100

hmm Why ?

>>87000383
Does anyone know if this GNO is any good?

>>87000753
Kind of sad they are doing even that well im glad dc had 39 fucking comics in the top 50 but marvel still got all but one of the remaining spots.

>>87000784
Then again if we take out one half of the double shipping comics image inches in a bit more (and dc still dominates)

Poor idw

>>86999636
>Buying trades in an LCS.
Good one, man.

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Fuck yeah! Batman!

Suck it, superfags! Suck it, spiderfags!

This means more Bat-franchises! Yeah.

>>87000824
Meh, these small publishers know how to do with little. Unlike the Big Two

>>86999996
>sinking
It's experiencing standard attrition, but even then the drops actually aren't that severe and it's holding a good bit better than anticipated.

>>87000768
I've heard mixed things and a couple reviews were basically "not muh WW"

Sounds kind of like a Greek tragedy with WW as the protagonist with too much hubris

>>86999996
Drone your Marvel had 10 books among the top 50. If DC is sinking, then Civil War II is already worse than Titanic.

>>87000927
>not muh WW
Cuckafags who should gtfo.

>>86999425
#1s don't really count

>>86999636
It sells on Amazon

Look at Coates BP trade on the lists it's in the 90's but it's been the top selling cape book on Amazon since it came out

Nobody buys trades in comic shops

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>>87001408
>#1s don't really count if they're DC

>>86999636
That's actually pretty good for a literally who book that came out in August

>>87000114
Star Wars books relaunch when?

>>87001441
Yes, I'm so sure in a matter of months Doom Patrol will still be outselling Spider-Man of course so it's not just an anomaly here.

>>86999389
>> 17. POISON IVY CYCLE OF LIFE AND DEATH TP (DC)
Ok that's pretty impressive

>tfw Ivy does get another book and Ivy League is convinced their constant whining and tweeting at creators did something

>>87001441
>#1s count for DC but not for anybody else

>>87000068
>>87000376
IIRC all the Kamala fans I know (Muslims and feminists) read Ms. Marvel through trades and digital copies.
They don't know where the local comic shop is

>>87002596
For the looks of it Ivy won't get another book. Let's say certain person posted something that person shouldn't have

>>87000927
>>87001330
The main problem is that Diana is annoyingly spoiled
It's the whole point of the book, but it's still annoying

>>86999389
>> 14. ONE PUNCH MAN GN VOL 08 (VIZ)
Based Saitama

>>86999425
It had like 4 or 5 variants and was a #1 so I'd be more concerned if it didnt.
YA will be like HB though and drop like a rock when there stop being lots of variants and DC let let it live on life support for a while.

>>87002655
I don't know what or who you're talking about but ok

I am sure the only people actually mad are DCfags who can't stand Batman being at the top, Marvel fans don't care about this bullshit

>>87002570
Don't be surprised it that happens at this point.

>>87002609
Yup.

>>87002570
You say that, but I'm not sure. It depends how fast people turn on Slott because of the stigma for clones and Spiderman. I didn't even think Doom Patrol would get top 20.

>>87002778
>Marvel fans don't care about this bullshit
Well, duh. They abandoned ship years ago.

>>86999379

Slowly but surely getting less and less sales, soon we will know peace from this evil

>>87002862
this, they only talk about tv shows and movies now

>>87002778

If I'm a DC badass like you say. why would Batman being on top bother me?

That's the natural order if you ask me

>>87002713
It just the leader of the whole IvyLeague tweeted something like
>I talked to DiDio today
>Bad news all around
>FUCK YOU DC
>Bunch of backstabbing idiots

Later she deleted the tweet

>>87002825
>>87002835

New Super-Man opened big, look where it is now. Doom Patrol definitely isn't staying in the top 20.

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So is Marvel going to do it to save sales?

>>87002937
By Bendis.
Kitty as Chosen One.

>>87002984
She's the only one that can't be hurt by a lightsaber. The choice is obvious.

>>87002984
You mean Brian Michael Bendis?

>>87002984
Talk about a monkey's paw right here if that ever happened.

>>87002937
I wouldn't mind a mini of the Rebels working with either the Guardians or whatever groups they want Fantastic Four would have been perfect stopping the Empire. Maybe a what if

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>>86999378
What a time Bat, Man

>>87002778
DCfags would be overjoyed that DC is on top after so long. Marvelfags should be happy because losing sales and market share is the only way Marvel will change.

>>87002921
And that makes Marvel fans happy. I guess.

>>86999425
it had 4 variants and a gimmick cover which forced you to 'destroy the comic' to see the gimmick so a lot of people probably ended up buying the main cover twice.

>>86999761
GN are reprints and CB are original material.

>>86999663
They go by sales not rank.
She's actually doing a lot better from last month. She might even be doing almost 30k

>>87003065
I'd be happier, but the amount of shitposting on /co/ is annoying.

>>87003170
If you don't like it just head over to CBR or Neofag they're basically damage control for Marvel. Shitposting is just part of /co/ it was DC's turn at the start of the New 52, its Marvel's turn now.

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>>87002984

>Bleeding Cool Bestseller List 16th October 2016 – Scott Lobdell Beats Almost Every Marvel Title

http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/16/bleeding-cool-bestseller-list-16th-october-2016-scott-lobdell-beats-almost-every-marvel-title/

Batman and his family are juggernauts.

>>87003202
>>87003202
>CBR or Neofag
Gross, man.

>>87003261
>Supersons outsold all the Marvel now books

>>87002596
What infuriates me is they say they were promised a book then get that book but still claim they were lied to.

>>87003317
They say they are promised a book NOW when all I can find is Didio saying Ivy is a cusp book in that the mini did fine but it could go either way and they'll have to see lol

>>87003304
Link ?

>>87003099
It's doing pretty well I'd say considering it doesn't have the branding power of Spider-Man and keeping in mind it's a new untested IP despite being a part of the Superman line.

>>87003385
They're also really pissed that Killer Frost gets to be in JLA and not Ivy even though Ivy was in a JLU arc

>>87000648
Around about the same time it goes out of print and DC gives the rights back to Alan Moore.

>>87003566
>Killer Frost in the JLA

Why?

>>87003566
So was Robotman. And Mera. And Sgt. Rock. And Swamp Thing. And Babsgirl.
Characterfaggotry, not even once.

>>87003566
Don't forget Clayface being a member of the Bat Family now

>>87003646
I can understand wanting DC to use a character a certain way and getting frustrating when the opportunity keeps getting missed, but they act like they're entitled to have DC use Ivy exactly the way they want and anything else is wrong

>>87003304
>Book that's not out until February outsold every book in September.

How does that work anon.

>>87003664
It's probably the Damifan so don't bother.

>>87003659
Yeah that person whined something fierce when a couple solicits came out with Ivy being in a couple books and NOT being a hero in them. Batgirl and some other book.

>>87003723
Why would you like a character if you cannot handle there morals

ITT: People who don't understand a book's position changing in the Top 100 doesn't reflect it's sales changing at all.

>>87003412
>>87003664

> Preorder >>87000046
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/13/dc-comics-even-ahead-marvel-average-per-title-marketshare-august/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

>>87004118
Where does it mention preorders.

>>86999723
Probably because they assumed Tec would have more Batman and more would happen

>>87004017
But the sales position obviously means it sold X amount more than it did last month

t. Retards

>>87002685
And? Other small books get variants and that number 1 bump, but most of them don't outsell Spider-Man.

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>>86999907

everyone knows grayson's true otp is with starfire anyway

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>>87004017
>SHUT UP SHUT UP EVERYTHING IS FINE AT MARVEL LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

>>87004302
>Starfire
I'd prefer nightwing and batgirl over that.

>>87002984
>People who got into Star Wars because of The Force Awakens and Marvel because of the MCU will assume Kitty is Rey

>>87004699
>both have ponytail
Superstar writer Brian Michael Bendis does it again!

>>87004302
That's almost as garbage as Dick/Babs

>>87004431
I don't think everything is fine. They're taking risks that aren't paying off. Mosaic was a bad idea to push so heavily when people don't give a fuck about Inhumans. They're trying to have a lot of female-lead books to attract an audience that doesn't exist. I'm wondering what bottom-of-the-barrel characters they're going to try dredging up next.

However DC's high is doubtful to last long term, just a short term boost due to restarting everything.

Man did the crossover hurt Nightwing that bad?

Man it sucks that Powerman and Iron Fist is so low. I love that book. Why does everything a I love get cancelled?

>>87005562
>issue with no fanservice and gay undertones
>sells badly

I guess so

>>87005562
I don't think Seeley tearing apart the Nightwing identity helped either.

>>87005562
Crossover without any Nightwing. I'd say so.

>>87005562
The tie in is higher than the normal issue, so no.

>>87005562
People don't read Nightwing for those other schmucks. Crossovers are poison

>>87005627
Other than People complaining about Babs I thought those first four issues we're well liked?

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>>87005695
>Crossovers are poison
You say that after /co/ masturbated furiously to pic related.
>>87005717
People complained from the start.

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>>87004963
Yeah, I anticipate that a lot of DC's books will get back to a normal level (this is taking into account how many fuck-ups happened between the New 52's success and the start of Rebirth). But at the same time, if Marvel continues on their path the way they are now, DC will still dominate. Marvel will need to drastically change things.

>>87005673
Yeah, the crossover actually give it a push.

The first arc was simply not good and the ending was really rushed.

>>87005750
>69 results
I don't think those are conclusive.

>>87005562
> 26. NIGHTWING #5 (DC)
> 30. NIGHTWING #4 [*] (DC)

literally the opposite
you're just assuming that the book is gonna settle at like 90k numbers at the top of the chart when it most certainly is not
dick doesn't have that kind of pull

>>87005582
Wait what are you looking at?

>>87005774
The poll is inconclusive but the retailers talking in the conversation aren't the ones reporting back to Rich (Big Bang Comics' tweets were posted by Rich for one article), and what they're saying seems to be echoed by the other retailers (that do talk to Rich) too.

>>86999389
>The Fix
Maybe the floppies will get a boost after this?
>Monstress is still in the top 25 three months later
That's pretty cool. It's a pretty good comic so far.

>>87002835
Doom Patrol had returnability and some hype over it. In some stores it really sold well and others they only sold a portion of copies. I liked it far, far more than Slott's Spider-Man, but realistically I expect Doom Patrol to go down the charts since it's more niche. I'm not even sure most Gerard Way fans who don't read comics are aware of it.

I can't help but motive that Batgirl books or books with batgirl in them like Nightwing have fallen. Maybe DC should stop shoving her face in everything.

>>87005582
What would they even replace it with? Luke probably can't carry his own book and this one at least has good critical praise.

>>87006018
Maybe they want a Luke Cage book that fits in with the show?

>>87006068
That's probably likely. From the sound of things the Jessica Jones book sold decently the first week.

>/Marvel Comics/ - Star Wars and Spider-Man

Why did they think it was a good idea to let Darth Vader end?

>>87006081
I would be salty as fuck if a fun Luke and Danny book gets canceled and replaced with Luke being a boring asshole by himself.

>>87005777
>dick doesn't have that kind of pull
he was selling better than flash when everything kicked off.

barbara poisoned the book, first arc was too cringy to follow at times.

>>87006081
Jessica is more interesting solo and it's her first one in forever.

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>>87006117
Don't worry, they have next best thing to ever happen to Star Wars.

>>87006002
She hardly being pushed nowadays, anon.

Batwoman is the one that DC cares about now.

>>87006172
I feel like they are expecting too much out of. Batwoman solo. Especially with that writing team.

>>87006143
>he was selling better than flash when everything kicked off.
He'll probably be selling in the 30,000s range once everything settles. He's got enough fans to maintain those numbers easily.

>>87006143
>a character going back to a status quo people like sells really good
NO WAY

>>87006143
Are you seriously comparing Flash to Dick, anon? Flash is simply more iconic and part of the JL.

>>87006081
That would suck. Luke is horribly boring by himself and Danny is a horrible agnsty asshole when written by Kaare.

>>87006207
>Flash has a tv show to appeal to reddit and casuals, Nightwing has nothing

that's what you meant to say

>>87006195
Maybe it'll sell well digitally.
I dug her New 52 book. Last arc was comfy as fuck.
Shame Tec doesn't have Ragman for continued Ragman & Clayface: Bachelor Adventures.

>>87006207
And yet Flash and Nightwing were always in the same sales range before this fall, even when TV show started.

>>87006195
Yeah, they giving her a solo series too soon and I don't know if she will be able to sell.

Having a great art might help her tho.

>>87006261
>Having a great art might help her tho.
Now you cracked secret to Bendis' success.

>>87006226
And live action soon.

>>87006219
I don't like Iron Fist that much so I actually hope Luke gets a solo with him focusing on his roots.

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>>87004302
>>87004493
>>87004896
You're all wrong.

>>87006323
> I don't like Iron Fist

Disgusting. They are the best duo. What would a Luke book even focus on? Jessica has her PI stuff and Luke has???

>>87004302
FUCK YOU DICK/DONNA ALL THE WAY

It pains me that the Grayson Helena is stuck in a low tier book. Why couldn't she just be part of Nightwing supporting cast over Muh Babs?

>>87006408
God no, you shouldn't try to ruin a beautiful friendship by trying to add fucking to an equation. I like that they are just friends.

>>87006226
What appeal Nightwing will have for the casuals if he got something anyway?

Even Jason seems more appealing to the casuals than him.

>>87005717
Dickfags dislike Seeley

>>87006474
Has it actually happened once?

>>87006474
It's OK if you add fucking to the World's Finest, though! xD

>>87002685
Every Marvel book gets 4 to 5 variants every month, even at issue 9.

>>87006501
Believe me, I hate those fucking people who ship Bats and Supes too.

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>>87006501
SuperBat is pure

>>87006408
That's fucking disgusting, anon.

>>86999940
agree.

>>87006542
Yeah, ditto. God forbid characters are friends, only beds must be involved.

>>87006478
Nightwing needs more homoeroticism.

>>86999940
>muh family sit-com with Superman should sell more!

nah

>>87006168
I think Aphra is cool. She is prime waifu material, but that isn't going to sell copies like Vader did and Marvel is bleeding spots in the charts. This is the first new canon character introduced in the comics to get their own solo, right? It'll be interesting to see how it does without the fans familiar with movie characters.

>>87006499
I thought Dickfags were happy to see Seeley keeping good stuff from Grayson though.

>>87006582
>Nightwing needs more homoeroticism.
Didn't Nightwing fans hate how gay Grayson was?

>>87006661
I don't know about the storytimes, but most of the Nightwing/Grayson threads I have been in get very gay and in a positive way.

>>87006500
No, Dick and Donna don't see each other that way, they are like brother and sister.

>>87006648
There are two types of Nughtwing fans. People who like Seeley and people who really like Dixon, finger stripes, and Babs.

>>87006714
>I don't know about the storytimes, but most of the Nightwing/Grayson threads I have been in get very gay and in a positive way.
I meant away from /co/. /co/ is just very gay in general.

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>>87003614
Because of this I think(???)

>>87001408

They do when it's fucking Doom patrol going up against Marvel biggest hero. Spider-Man being that low is laughable

>>87006478
How popular the Robins are outside of comics?

>>87006837
Especially when Doom Patrol is not expected to be a big seller. DC knows that Young Animal is going to be their niche market, and they won't expect huge sales from it. They'll probably see more in trades. The fact that something they expect to be niche is selling so well out of the gate should build confidence for the line.

>>87006884
Jason seems to be the most popular with the casuals and Dick is second behind him.

Damian is pretty much hated by them and I don't know about Tim.

>>87006837
Doom Patrol got more copies ordered this month than Spider-Man but that doesn't mean all of those copies will be purchased as much as Spidey in the long run.

>>87006648
There's the "anti Grayson" Dickfags, the "pro Grayson" Dickfags, and then the "Grayson is good but I'd much rather have Nightwing back" Dickfags
/co/ is heavily pro Grayson Dickfags

>>87006940
Tim is literally who? Right now

>>87006884
Popular enough to have steady supply of merch, I guess?

>>87006837
But remember, they put returnability on the first three issues of Doom Patrol and the Young Animal line. Retailers ordered a lot on #1 because they can take the risk on it and want to see how many actually sell. The real test is #3 (the last returnable issue) and beyond (non-returnable).

>>87006884
Most people only think there's 1 Robin and see him as the Burt Ward version. Jason is kinda known now because of Arkham Knight.

>>87006940
Outside of YJ Dick's had a surprisingly shitty time with mass media over the last couple of decades. The Arkham games pretty much punchlined him, and well... Batman and Robin.

>>87006884
Hard to tell since we don't have merch sales really but with the general public most don't know more than one Robin exists and Robin is just "well known" and not "popular"

But Nightwing or Red Hood are probably decently popular compared to Tim or Damian due to more exposure
I know Red Hood was one of the most requested people for Injustice but most of the people requesting him are probably more comic savvy

>>87007031
Yeah, plus the Under the Red Hood movie was popular.

>>87006901
You realize these were just copies that were ordered right? We don't know how well Doom Patrol is selling on average and you simply can't base that off of a #1.

>>87007038
You're forgetting about Teen Titans, The Batman, and B:TAS. Dick's had it pretty good over the years.

>>87007038
Not really surprising considering how little people in general (developers, writers, fans, etc) really don't care about Batman's cast outside of Alfred, Gordon, and his villains since them having any spotlight would be redundant and would take away from Batman.

>>87006940
I guess the animated movies didn't do any favors for Damian while UtRH and AK did wonders for Jason.

Tim doesn't have much of media exposure like the other robins.

>>87007104
Actually not even his villains since Joker, Harley, and Catwoman get more priority over all the other villains, Joker especially.

>>87007074
>>87007029

Still, Spider-Man should be pulling Batman numbers. How did Marvel let things get so bad?

>>87007133
The only time Spider man pulled Batman numbers was Superior and before OMD

>>87007133
This is a good thing though. It could mean people are getting Slott fatigue.

>>87007133
Anger stopped selling.

>>87007133
Through constant relaunches and pandering to the wrong crowd.

>>87007133
because Batman has had quality writers and artists behind it

it's only /co/ that tries to push the "it only sells because of the name" meme

>>87007133
Because spider-man has not sold well since One More Day.

OMD literally halved spider-man's numbers and Slott's Superior Spider-man was the only time it got high again, and that was because of anger.

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>Marvel only has 10 books in the top 50 for the second month in a row
>Sales of Nower are bombing at the retailer level
>Meanwhile at Marvel

>>87007169

Let's not pretend name isn't important at all though. We know of a lot of good titles that don't sell because they're aren't big names

>>87007204
Don't worry, Inhumans vs X-Men and ResurreXion will put them back on top.

>>86999378
> 4. CIVIL WAR II #5 (MAR)
I thought everyone was saying that Marvel is sinking, being in the 4 spot has to be good right?

>>87007169
Well, there is some truth in that as Justice League proves.

But I mean yeah, strong writing and art helps too.

>>87007255

Then it's another 11 spots until their next book. And then another 9 after that

It's not good

>>87007111
>UtRH and AK did wonders for Jason
Plus him being confirmed to be the dead robin in BvS and the "everyone in DCEU is Jason Todd" meme helped a lot too.

>>87007133
DC actually cared and put effort to keep Batman popular by giving him the best writers while Marvel doesn't care or even know how to keep Spider-Man popular.

>>87007255
Consider how hard they have been pushing this piece of dogshit, 4 place is pretty mediocre

>>87007257

Justice league was out of the top 10 last month (Hitting 11) so it went from 11 back to 4. It actually saw a sales increase. There is no god

>>87007255
It's the biggest title they're putting out right now, their big event for the year. That's not good.

>>87007340
And that my dear friend is the power of branding.

>>87003723

who is this? Are they on twitter? I want to annoy them or him/her

>>87007255
This would've been okay for an event book like Original Sin or Axis, but this was a book obviously done (and in a rush) to capitalize on the Civil War film being out this year. Remember that the Millar Civil War sold extraordinarily well and boosted up sales of other titles that tied-in. CW2 though, it's so far doing okay (though bad for what it is; Hulk died and no one really cared) but sales have dropped on tie-ins.

>>87005582
Gettng cancelled??????

>>87000167
Nighwing #3 was the 25th bestseller last month

Nightwing #4 is at #30, despite more #1s

How is that "bleeding"

>>87008449
We haven't actually seen the sales yet anon but compared to Flash..woof

>>87008683
Flash had an extra month, so its sales are going to drop off more slowly. Plus the new season of Flash just started, so stores are probably going to order more Flash because of it.

Nightwing seems to be dropping, but it seems to be at the same rate (if not better) than the other July books. Hal Jordan's probably around 60K. Red Hood dropped from 80K to around 50, same with the Batgirl books (though they have smaller drops)

>>87000167
>>87008449
>>87008956
literally all this is meaningless without actual numbers because we don't know how things are going to settle or if they will yet

>>87003261
slap a bat logo on crap, and even crap will sell

>>87009457
That explains how Red Hood could do well then.

>>87009457
Slap an Iron Man logo on crap, and it won't sell.

>>87009457
>>87009714
Did you just talk to yourself, anon?

>>87009457
>>87009714
So much bitterness here...

>>87009834
>>87009860

No, did you?

>>87009457
>>87009714
>>87009771
>>87009834
>>87009860
>>87010043
this is all the same person

Poor Nightwing.

>>87009457
Not true. Batwing tanked.

>>87010088
You can't prove that it is.

>>87010127
Why are people acting that a book in the top 30 is a bad thing?

I mean, none of the Rebirth books are in cancellation numbers right now period, things are good.

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>>87010088
How do you like my Gimp skills?

>>87010262
It's never going to outsell anyone with a movie or TV series, so its placement is fine. It'll probably settle around 60k after a couple more issues, which is still really all things considered

>>87010394
you have six different computers you log onto?

>>87010262
Cause top 30 sounds bad to people without numbers.

>>87010262
The ranking doesn't matter, the sales do, which is something we don't know so I don't get why people are talking about it doing badly or well.

>>87010436
Now you're reaching, m80.

>>87010566
>>87010576

Then they should probably just wait for those numbers.

Really only books I'd be worried about are traditional low sellers anyway like Cyborg or Blue Beetle.

>>87010566

Out over 400 comics that get released each month?

>>87010677
you and i are actually the same person

>>87010940
Don't tell them, Anon.

>>87010816
Just explaining why people feel like that.

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>>87010816
People panic cause they don't want their faves cancelled. Look at that one Power man and Iron Fist anon. They're freaking out even though there's no indication that the books getting cancelled.

>>87011138
>worrying about anybody getting cancelled in the Batline, especially fucking Dick Grayson of all people.

What?

>>87011138

Well the last issue did 24k.

If Marvel will keep shit like Moon Girl going I don't think he should worry.

>>87011182
Midnighter got cancelled once

>>87011182
Maybe the worry there is more crossovers and getting pushed to monthly????

>>87011238

Midnigher isn't a Batman character

>>87011202
Especially with the Netflix shows going on.

>>87011238

Midnighter isn't a Batman character.

>>87011251

Well I can sort of understand that.

>>87011202
Plus neither character there can keep a solo so that book is the best they should get.

>>87010262
Nightwing fans are delusional. They think he is an A list character that should sell higher but the truth is he will always be an overachieving B list character. DC doesn't need to care about him because his book does better than they expect for a lower tier character.

>>87011251

It's at 26 and 30. Comparing those postions to last months sales that's 81k (25 last month was also Nightwing) and 75k

There is nothing to panic about at all. It's barely moved

>>87011251
Eshhh. Crossovers killed the story in the last Nightwing run. Poor Higgans.

>>87011251
Marcus To is already signed on for two more bi-weekly arcs, so Nightwing isn't going to change much any time soon. It's still doing better than a lot of other bi-weekly books, too (Green Arrow, Green Lanterns, Cyborg, Deathstroke, Hal Jordan, Aquaman)

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>>87006408
Donna deserves better.

>>87011302
That's kind of what I thought.

>>87011299
Actually maybe Luke can and Iron Fist is getting a mini.

>top 10 has 3 Batman books and 3 teams with Batman
Damn. He's a titan.

>>87011340
wolfman pls go

>>87011318
Going by the other books next to them, it's probably more around 70K or so. There's a drop, but that's to be expected

>>87011302
Yep.

>>87011375
>Iron Fist is getting a mini.

Nice

> Kaare Andrews

Boooooooooo

>>87011395
I prefer you call me Wonder Guy, anon.
Wonder. Guy.

>>87011398
His teams are the real Titans.

>>87011398

Even so it's seeing better numbers than past relaunches.

New 52 Nightwing was at 45k by it's 7th issue. and Grayson was at 41

> 5. JUSTICE LEAGUE #4 [*] (DC)
Why???? Names shouldn't overdo shit writing this much .

>>87011491

Grayson deserved better :(

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>>87011529

>It's actually an increase in sales over last month

>>87011459
Kaare Andrews is great as an artist. He has no business writing, though.

>>87011529
Maybe the writing is actually good and you are the one not getting it.

>>87011529
Because it is actually good and you just don't like it.

>>87011529
Because the #1s for Supergirl, Trinity, and Teen Titans didn't sell enough to knock that title down

>>87011529
Hitch is here to stay, folks.

>>87012017

Hmm. This could be bad. This means that only the top 5 books would have done over 100k

>>87011776
>2deep4u

>>87011776
Pls leave Snyder

>>87012076
He said he's already written like 24 issues so yeah he's probably writing even more

>>87012154
Oh god.

Strap in lads, we're in for a long ride.

>>87012227
That's only one year.

>>87012276
>>87012227
>>87012154

He's going to be on it for at least 2 years unless the numbers crash which they wont

>>87012301
but it's justice league, anyone could write it, and still get good numbers

DC doesn't even trust him with the JL vs SS tie-ins

>>87011558
convergence and the price hike fucked over grayson

>>87012276
Justice League has been ass for years, Hitch just continues that.

>>86999657
Gerard Way/MCR fans.

>>86999657
Anon it's just one title and it had like 5 variants, one of which you had to peel off stuff, possibly making people buy two copies.

>>86999778
Aquaman is still currently on my list at the lcs but it's very close to falling off.

>>87002653
They probably call them graphic novels and don't even realize there are floppies.

>>87000893

Yeah, but the drops haven't stopped yet. No Rebirth title has stabilized yet. Rebirth could just gradually bleed to death.

>>87014474

It's not even standard attrition. It's doing a lot better than that. It's unlikely that it will bleed to death

>>87011919
>Because it is actually good
How shit does your taste have to be to actually believe this?

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>>87007411
It's more than one person but /co/ likes to focus on pic related for being the leader
It's a "she" by the way

>>86999378
Gentlemen, how do we kill the Batman?

>>87018134
Why do you want DC to die?

>>87018134
Get marvel staff to write him. Sure worked for spiderman

>>87006940
Jason pls you sucks

>>87006940
>Jason seems to be the most popular with the casuals
hahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahah Jasonfags.

>>87006478
>Even Jason seems more appealing to the casuals than him.
urg . no Jason sucks.
> 50. RED HOOD AND THE OUTLAWS #2 [*] (DC)
Damian and Dick are popular with the casuals.
11. TEEN TITANS REBIRTH #1 [*] (DC)
> 26. NIGHTWING #5 (DC)#

>>87018134
You can't kill the Batman, he's an ideal to strive for that cannot be undone or broken.

>>86999378
>> 12. DETECTIVE COMICS #941 (DC)
Poor Tim Drake.

>Supergirl in the top ten.

Neat. I'm happy for the creative team working on the book.

>>87011302
Jasonfag pls.

>>87006884
Dick
Damian
Tim
Jason.